Kyle Kingsbury Podcast - #273 Richard Rudd - Gene Keys Creator

Episode Date: October 12, 2022

You guys may have heard me mention the book, “Gene Keys” before. Well, we got the creator of that book/program on, Richard Rudd. He is also the author of many other books that are based on Gene Keys.  He walks us through his “awakening” and the path that has brought him from there to this moment. He walks us through a couple sequences of his programs/”retreats” that are offered at his website. You can access all of his books as well as online programs and a free Gene Key profile at his website(also below).  I almost forgot the prophecy portion of the conversation! My lips are sealed though, ya gotta listen to the end for those delicious nuggets. As I mentioned, he brought forth multiple synchronicities and truths for me in this connection and I am immensely grateful for it. Thank you brother and thanks y'all for tuning in!   “GotTuba” Hit us up at kingsbu.com/contact and we’ll get your Organifi treasure(s) sent out ASAP. Future Organifi winners! Leave your IG and/or Twitter handle in your review and we can skip the email dance to be able to get the goods to you even faster!   Connect with Richard:   Website: genekeys.com  Instagram: @genekeys  Facebook: Gene Keys  Twitter: @gene_keys  YouTube: Gene Keys  Show Notes:   Jade Bryce’s Untamed and Unashamed w/ Creator Richard Rudd Spotify Apple  The Gene Keys: Embracing Your Higher Purpose The Art of Contemplation: A gentle path to wholeness and prosperity   Online Audio Course  The Dream Arc - Course Sponsors:   Our Sponsor - Aura offers all-in-one digital safety for your entire household. Identity theft, fraud, and malware are just some of their offerings. Go to https://aura.com/kyle for 14 days free and 40% off your plan.  PaleoValley Some of the best and highest quality goodies I personally get into are available at paleovalley.com, punch in code “KYLE” at checkout and get 15% off everything! Bioptimizers To get the ’Magnesium Breakthrough‘ deal exclusively for fans of the podcast, click the link below and use code word “KINGSBU10” for an additional 10% off. magbreakthrough.com/kingsbu  Organifi Go to organifi.com/kkp to get my favorite way to easily get the most potent blend of high vibration fruits, veggies and other goodies into your diet! Click that link and use code “KKP” at checkout for 20% off your order!   To Work With Kyle Kingsbury Podcast   Connect with Kyle:   Fit For Service Academy App: Fit For Service Academy  Instagram: @livingwiththekingsburys   Odysee: odysee.com/@KyleKingsburypod  Youtube: Kyle Kingbury Podcast  Kyles website: www.kingsbu.com  Zion Node: https://getzion.com/ > Enter PubKey  >PubKey: YXykqSCaSTZNMy2pZI2o6RNIN0YDtHgvarhy18dFOU25_asVcBSiu691v4zM6bkLDHtzQB2PJC4AJA7BF19HVWUi7fmQ   Like and subscribe to the podcast anywhere you can find podcasts. Leave a 5-star review and let me know what resonates or doesn’t.

We got one of my all-time favorite podcasts today with my brother Richard Rudd. Richard Rudd is the author of Gene Keys, Unlocking the Higher Purpose Hidden in Your DNA. I've been a fan of his for a long time now. We track so much of the origin story that is Richard Rudd, which is pretty fantastic. And we even dive into prophecy in this one, which is, that's always fucking juicy. Lots of good stuff here. Richard has been developing different programs on how to work with consciousness and the consciousness of yourselves, unlocking the DNA and how that aligns to creating the best

version of yourself. And because each of us is a unique expression of the divine, we each come with a certain pattern with our own unique imprint and blueprint. And that's really what Gene Keys is about. It's about discovering what is uniquely you and how do you unlock and access the very best of yourself, moving from shadow into your gift, and then eventually from the gift into your city, which is the ultimate gift. You might call that Christ consciousness, Buddha consciousness, Lao Tzu consciousness, whatever you want to call that, the highest possible version of yourself. And I really gravitated towards this book right when I first started. I started hearing about it in medicine circles, and I was like, I don't know, man, a lot of people are reading this book. And then I went through my reading and he

tells you how to do all this stuff here for free. But I went through my reading and I was like, holy shit, there's so much of this that is pretty damn exact. And it's like odd. It's very odd to me how many stuck out like sore thumbs. So we got a couple of books. I got one for my wife, got one for myself. I went through our charts and marked each page where our codes were. And over the course of about a year and a half, really took time diving into each section of this and each section that was pertinent to me. And after a while, I just kind of set it aside and was like, all right, yeah, cool. I got that. I feel like I'm doing good there. And then I have a close friend of mine, Jade Bryce, who has had Richard on his podcast,

was telling me about an upcoming dream workshop that he's doing on spirit animals. And I was like, sign me the fuck up. I'm definitely in for that. And she had him on the podcast, great podcast. And I'll link to that in the show notes. And really just showed me that Richard's never stopped working like most great podcast. And I'll link to that in the show notes and really just showed me that he is, you know, Richard's never stopped working like most great guys. He's still in the game. And it reminded me like, oh man, I should tune back into him. And I know we were trying to get

Richard up stateside. I would love to meet you in the future, brother. Give you a big hug. He's mutual friends with a close homie of mine, Blue, who's been on Aubrey Marcus's podcast, who I want to have come on mine as well. So cool little, little inner circles and things like that of connectivity, but this was fantastic. It was such a good podcast for me because I didn't know the full background or the full story of how Richard Rudd came to be. And it is really remarkable. You know, and one of the things, you know, if, if somebody claims to be a this or a that, uh, you know, a channel, perfect example. One of the things, if somebody claims to be this or that, a channel, perfect example of someone's a channel, what is it that's coming through is more important than what they're claiming to channel, right? So Paul Selig, I've used that

example many times. Whether he's connecting to some higher part of himself or whether it is Melchizedek or something else, it doesn't really matter because he's writing incredible books in a matter of weeks, like 17 days. And he spits it out verbally in front of everyone, the download of this book, as he channels the book. I mean, that's pretty remarkable. And Richard wasn't able to do that. It took him seven years to fully process his deep dive. And I'm not going to give anything away. Like you guys got to, you're going to love this. Seven years to process it, seven years to write this book.

And there's so many synchronicities in this podcast, I can't even list them. But even along the lines of the prophecy, I talked with Richard after the podcast about some of the synchronicities there and how my life has been deeply impacted by certain spirit animals you might not suspect, like the hummingbird and the dragonfly and the honeybee. But just really, really cool stuff. And of course, that won't mean shit to you guys. So just tune in. If this resonates with you on some level, it's quite likely you've had some impact or synchronicity with something in nature. Now that might be a little bit better way to bridge that gap. But anywho, I love this podcast with Richard. I hope it is the first of many. I have started working my way back through the Gene Keys and I'm going to be taking a deep dive

into his upcoming program. We link to all this stuff in the show notes. It's genekeys.com, but we'll throw his links up and all that good stuff there the show notes. It's genekeys.com, but we'll throw his links up and all that good stuff there. And be sure to check him out. There is a wealth of knowledge contained within this channeled text. And it's personal. It's not airy-fairy or way the fuck out there, out of reach. There's very practical ways that you can unlock some of this. And one of the cool things that I hadn't known about before was Richard had written a second book, and we'll link to that in the show notes as well, but it's really about how you deep dive the contemplation portion of life, but the contemplation portion of the gene keys,

which is what is the necessary prerequisite to unlocking the gene keys. So I'm thoroughly, thoroughly excited about the fact that he had done this already, and I just found out about it for the first time. It's a very short book to chew on and break down, so I'll be diving in that very soon, and hopefully I'll get him back on after I've taken a deep dive into contemplation. But there are a number of ways you can support this podcast. First and foremost, share it. Share it with all your homies that you know will like it. Secondly, leave us a five-star rating. If you do so, we're picking one winner at the end of each month to get my favorite Organifi product. That's guaranteed, and stay tuned because we've got our first winner from September. At the end of each month, we're going to pick a winner. One or two ways the show has helped you out in life. Simple as that.

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I got every single one of these outlined. I did the same for my wife. She got her own book and I absolutely love your work. So I'm excited to have you on the podcast today. Yeah, thank you, Kyle. Lovely to be here. Cool. Well, we always want to get a background.

And you have kind of an origin story that is akin to a superhero. So I like hearing what made people who they are today. But talk about life growing up. Talk about who you were in the past and then your synthesis into downloading this amazing information that you've brought to the world. Yeah, sure. I mean, I guess I'm from a privileged white background, you know, so let's get that out the way to begin with. Brought up in the UK over here and happy family, good parents, you know, and I guess things started to kind of get interesting for me when I was around 18 and then kind of those tremors of there's something more there's you know um there's something out there I need to find and um and so I I and I was a big adventurer you know so in my 20s um I traveled a lot in the world

you know so I went I went around the world several times, and I was really curious as to what happens when you let go of maps. And this was before mobile phones and all that stuff and GPS. So there's that purity to just traveling to places that are really remote and wild. I remember being on, for example, a truck in Bolivia, where I wanted to go to this remote tribe. And the only way you could get there was this one truck that went there once a week. And so it like things like that, where I would have experiences where I was, you know, just completely off the beaten track. And I soon picked up that life has an incredible capacity to support you

when you embrace it with a sense of adventure. And anyway, all of that period of a lot of traveling kind of led to me having a sort of awakening experience that is a bit unusual in that I went to bed one night and i was living in the south of england at the time and um and when i woke up in the morning i woke up into an altered state of consciousness you know so i woke from my sleep and then i was immediately in this higher state of consciousness that lasted for three days and three nights. And, um, and so far I haven't really heard of anyone else having quite that same experience, like waking up and waking up.

Um, and I, and there was, so I hadn't, there was, I was not on any drugs or anything like that. I was, you know, nothing like that. It was just a spontaneous thing. And then, so for those three days, um, I had a hit of the other world, the invisible world or the cosmic me, you know, where I was just this being of light and this kind of higher intelligence was operating through me and wasn't even a me. But, you know, there was this vast kind of light field. And in those three days, there was a sort of feeling of being in the cosmic mind, or I guess you might call it a Kashyyyk record, or those kind of things.

And anything I wanted to know, I could know. You know, I mean, imagine that. Like, imagine you're shown like this thing, and anything you want to know, you can know. You know, the past, the present, the future. You want to know your death? You can know anything. I actually didn't ask. I didn't kind of find out when my death was.

It just didn't occur to me. I wouldn't have asked that either. Yeah, no. But a lot of things I did find out. Really, my curiosity was about the universe and how it works and structure and the mind and the body and this time and this form and why this form, why now, and the sort of dharma of my life. And yeah, I did look ahead a little bit and kind of look into future patternings, I guess you could call. So not details, but kind of patternings,

you know, so you could see the flow of a life. And that was an incredible experience, as you can imagine. And then on the third day, when I was sitting on this little remote island, I was on a journey. I went on a little spontaneous pilgrimage over those days, and there was no sleeping either. I didn't sleep at all. I was just awake all night in this space. There was no sleep. There was no discrimination between waking and sleeping um and um yeah so i was sitting on this little island off the north coast of wales and this little hill there and i got a fisherman to take me out there on his boat and he just dropped me on this little island it's called bardsey island it was

mythically but supposed to be the place where merlin died. Merlin the magician, the Welsh magician, you know. And I sort of, I was just led there and I was sitting on this little hilltop and then this altered state just kind of fell off me. It was this weird experience of it. It went back into the earth. It just slid off me and back into the earth. And I was left as richard again you know

this thing you know like with all its stuff and i was like oh man i was so disappointed you can't imagine and so you know i spent many years trying to get back back and kind of railing against the fates. And then I had some period when I had a kind of Messiah complex. I went through all the different stages of surrender, I guess. But in those three days also, the things that I was shown about the cosmos and the universe and all of that, it was all beyond words. I didn't know how to put it into words. I didn't have a framework. So it sat in me for a good seven years and I integrated it. And I couldn't sort of live a normal life after that. So a lot of my friends were getting married and having kids and doing jobs. And I couldn't, I just, nothing stuck

because I was in this post-integration phase that lasted years. So I was a bit adrift, to be honest. But then around seven years, I came across things like the human design system, which you might want to talk about. But that was a calling that kind of woke up in me, like to go and study that and explore that.

And I also met my wife and that kind of really grounded me in a new way. And after about a year, we had a child. And that also really grounded me. And with that grounding, I started to kind of make sense in words and in some kind of form of the things that were happening to me or had happened to me. Because I knew I was supposed to do something with it, but I had no idea how to put it into any framework. You know, it was like a divine wisdom download, but I had no idea, you know, so all I had was clues, which my intuition followed. So the first one was human design. So I'll pause there in case you want to. No, that's, that's, that's, this is phenomenal. You're, you're, you're intuiting exactly where

I want it to go. So just keep running with it. This is phenomenal. Yeah. Phenomenal. So, yeah, so I went to, um, I went, you know, because a friend came, you know, I said it was like just clues in a way, you know, destiny is like that, isn't it? You know, you clues come and you just have to pick up the clues and follow them and they, and your intuition is your guide. So, um, a friend of mine came back from New Mexico carrying one of these human design charts, early human design charts. And he showed it to me. He said, I had this great thing done. And as soon as I saw that chart, I was like, something inside me went off, that deep recognition of my intuition saying, you need to know more about this.

And so I went and found out more. I went to America. I think that was, I actually sailed there on to America. I think that was actually sailed there on a boat. You know, I think that was the time. I sailed across the Atlantic. Wow. And that's how I arrived in America. And then I traveled to New Mexico, where the chart had come from

and where the founder of the system was. And his name, Ra, Ra Uruhu, you may have heard of him. People, you know, he's quite infamous in his way. And he was an extraordinary man. And I got to know him quite well over the coming years. And he gave me the rights to the UK human design thing. So I set up a school over here in the UK and started teaching human design and sharing it and expanding it and um it was quite a successful school i mean like really people loved it and and um and but slowly in that journey i started to kind of part of my spirit wanted to expand that system further, deeper, more, you know, like there's this, it's the adventurer in me, you know, it's like, there's more, you know,

and so I started to mutate it in little ways and shift the language a little bit. And, um, and then I guess it was around that time I had a second experience that I really wasn't expecting, and it's kind of inconvenient actually because I was at the time a father looking after like a young kid and stuff, and then I had one of these other big experiences, another three days, but I couldn't go off and be a nice mystic on a mountain. I had to be in the, you know, I was changing nappies and having downloads, you know. And it was, you know, it was extraordinary time. And a whole other layer came in on top of that human design knowledge,

which formed like a baseline, like underpinning for me. Because it was rooted in the Chinese I Ching, as some may know, and that's an amazing kind of life formula for the codes of life, the codes of consciousness, these 64 codes that are then repeated in all kinds of iterations at all scales of creation. So 64 codes in our DNA, 64 bits, bytes in these computers that we're talking right now. The foundation of our technology is based on that.

According to physicist Nassim Haramein, it's the foundational structure of the space-time continuum, you know, 64-fold tetrahedral grid. It's also the eight octaves of music, you know, it's embedded everywhere. You find it in geometries, in life, in nature, in beautiful architecture, through the phi ratio. You know, it is really an incredible code, you know, universal. And you'll see it on lots of ancient kind of tombs and, you know, lineages and places, the Kama Sutra, you know, the 64 Vedic traditions and, you know, all kinds of places you find it. Anyway, so that became my big contemplative journey is like,

how can I go deeper into that matrix that human design had kind of taught me the basis? And it meant by doing that, which I did, I came up with a new language for it, a threefold language so that, you know, there was space in each archetype linguistically to kind of fall and ascend. And, you know, so the shadow is the basis. There's a shadow for each of these archetypes. And then there's a gift in that shadow. And then there's a city that was a Sanskrit word Sanskrit word meaning divine revelation or divine realization. So what I had at the end of that was a spectrum, this language for human consciousness. So the 64 shadows, those classic states that underpin all our victim struggles,

from conflict to codependence to all the real, you know, vanity. These are the words, they're archetypal words. And then each of them contains a gift hidden inside it. So that gave me the basis of like a whole shadow work. Like, wow, every shadow contains a gift. Isn't that beautiful um and then by this time i'd left the human design um sort of matrix and i was traveling into new territory and um through a series of synchronicities i kind of got these shapes and down and and um sort of geometries that helped me kind of see deeper layers hidden in the same transmission that Ra taught. And, you know, layers that could be used in different ways to take people on journeys, you know, very different.

So Jinki then grew out of that and became very different from human design, which was this kind of the very kind of scientifically engineered language that's designed to kind of like a blueprint to show you your specifics of your nature and the the kind of laws of your nature in a way how to make decisions and those kind of things um so quite mechanical very mechanical and then but then jinky's this was this sort of flower flower that grew out of that and became a journey, lots of journeys through archetypes where some of the same coordinates that came out of human design could be opened up in sequences inside us. So that was one of the things I saw in my second big download

was like how awakening operates, you know, and some teachers might argue with this, but it operates in sequences just because DNA operates in sequences and time operates in sequences. And so some might say no, awakening is instant because that's like when I woke up in the morning and bang, which there's truth to that. But there's also all the things that led up to that moment,

where there were layer upon layer upon layer of preparation before those big epiphanies that some of us may experience. So I became interested in like how do we sequentially open to higher consciousness and you know and then in the same in the same patterning i was shown um how our wounding operates you know and that was a whole teaching called the venus sequence and and all these things were shown to me in bizarre places, you know, on trains and kind of wandering around, you know, just where I saw, I'd see it come in. And then I'd literally, my wife would say, what are you on? And I literally, every part of the wall was covered with a piece of paper with some writing or a symbol on it or scrawled, like something's coming.

Then I'd go and write it on the wall. It was like a sort of mad scientist's study. So I was collating all of that into something. I was assembling a big jigsaw puzzle. And later I came to see, I came to a Tibetan understanding called the Tama. And it really helped me understand

what had happened to me because in the Tibetan tradition, a Tama is like a sacred teaching that detonates at a certain time in history, in a certain epoch. And that sacred teaching only detonates when there's a terton, which is the person that's designed to receive it first, is passing by it exactly at that moment,

in an exact predestined position in the cosmos. And so I realized, oh my God, that's what happened to me. that moment in the same in an exact predestined position in the cosmos you know and and so i realized oh my god that's what happened to me i had this terma that was just kind of received and i think i think more of us than we realize receive these things you know perhaps not the same size of terma all of us because this was a big one um and required like many years of unpacking and i'm still unpacking it you know it's like a treasure box and that's what tamar means treasure it's beautiful because this box full of divine wisdom and you put your hand in and another piece of wisdom comes out and you're wow it's like that and it's like that. And it's almost like all a complete universal teaching

that's already kind of formed. But then, you know, I have to use my language and my understanding from my upbringing to kind of put it into my cultural, you know, I guess my cultural milieu of this age. You know, so if someone received that, you know, 2,000 years ago in another country, it would have come out maybe in a completely different way,

been interpreted. And in fact, these sacred teachings do travel, you know, like that. And so it's nothing new. It's the same term that's been traveling forever, and know, like that. And so it's nothing new. It's the same term as that's been traveling forever. And it will continue to, and it will be reinterpreted in different ways by different people and different messengers, you know, in the future as well. So this is just the term for our time. And so as I unpacked more, you know, more interesting stuff came out. I mean, this teaching contains a really powerful prophecy,

which I wasn't expecting when I was, because I started to write the book of the Gene Keys. You know, that was the way I kind of, okay, I've got 64 codes. I'm going to contemplate each one without reference to anything else, no reference to the original Li Ching or anything like that, or human design, put all that away and just went kind of naked into the wilderness of like, okay, today I'm doing, you know, I came to call them gene keys, you know, today I call them gene key, I'm doing gene key five, you know, and I would just wait.

And for like maybe two or three weeks, I'd be doing GeneKey 5. I'd be waiting for something. And then a teaching or a transmission would come and it would be a live. And I get the live teaching from events, things, you know, in me. And then I'd write it down in words. And then I go, right, now I'm doing GeneKey 29 because it just came. And I didn't do it down in words. And then I'd go, right, now I'm doing Gene Key 29 because it just came. And I didn't do it in any sequence.

I'd do it until I received the teaching from it. And then I'd write it down. And that's how I wrote my book. And it took seven years of doing that. And at the end came the Gene Keys book. And when I finished, I put that final full stop on the book. I was like, I had this feeling of like, that's a piece of work. And I also had this real satisfaction of like, wow, those three days that I had in the first

hit where it was wordless wisdom, I just had this feeling of like, wow, somehow I got all those three days into that book in a coded form, you know, in a different form. But like, it's all in there. And I had this feeling of like, right, if I can die now, it doesn't really matter what happens now. I've done my message. Anyway, so that was, I'm rattling on. I can carry on if you want.

Yeah, this is fantastic. Please keep rattling on. And then I want to get into a little bit more of the specifics on how, if for somebody who's first starting out, just the basics of where they go, and we'll talk about where they go online, link to all that in the show notes, but what they would do with their birth chart into getting into what this is and then how to operate the book and some of the, you know, how challenging is it to move from shadow into the gift?

And can you stay in the city in any of these archetypes or are they meant to be, you know, like a seasonal hit that you get to experience and then you move back into the gift or the the shadow things like that but please you know take it anywhere you want to go brother yeah yeah yeah no thank you and yeah let's let's let's bring it more into the practical realm as well um yeah so it started to crystallize having written that book and and then um that book then started its journey into the world and it started to be translated into different languages and people came and

they found that book and they're still finding it and and that term that has its has its resonance it almost like has it i call it a fractal you know it has a fractal kind of connection to certain people at certain times that you know and and then they it it's it helps awaken them in different ways so out of this came you know the book and then um out later came these programs i created because i wanted i didn't want to be the spiritual teacher you You know, I wanted to, I wanted to create a teaching that was self-teaching that, so that, because the last thing I wanted to do is sort of sit around with people and, you know, be in that role. Cause I'm, you know, I'm quite hands-on just dad and a family man. And I've, I live a very ordinary life and I like that, you know, and, and so I didn't want to go on the circuit and sell books and all that. So I just stayed at home and I

created this, you know, online pro series of online programs that would, you know, and, and wrote these, these books that would take you through your profile. So your profile was created out of a little bit based on human design, a little bit based on astrology, I Ching, bits of other things in there. So anyone who's listened to this, you can go to genekeys.com right now as we're speaking, if you want, and go to free profile and put in your birth data. It doesn't have to be super accurate.

Gene Keys is quite kind of liberal with timings. And, you know, you'll get a profile. And then that profile is a journey. You know, this is not the kind of thing where you go and have it read by someone, although that's a nice way to start. It's a whole journey, you know, and the book is a part of that journey. But there's more, you know, because you have to learn, like the sequences. So the first sequence is called the activation sequence. And it's four

keys that relate to your life purpose, you know, the life's work that you're here to do, the evolution, which is the, in a way, it's your biggest stumbling block. And then your radiance is like your perfect health on all levels, not just physical, emotional, mental, spiritual. And then your purpose, that's your higher purpose. What are you really here for? So that sequence, those four, you know, follows a pattern of, you know, the challenge, the breakthrough, and then core stability. So to explore those four keys, and each one, each person has unique keys, you know, to them, that's a journey of unraveling. So you don't just like

read about it. You actually, same way that I learned, you have to contemplate it. You know, you take the key, you understand its message, you contemplate its message, you look for the responses in your life, and then you learn through you know real life experience you know that's the power of contemplation and in a way that was the second book i wrote well not the second complete but it was the second really major part of my teaching transmission i wrote the art of contemplation i don't know if you've seen that little book. No, but one thing I wanted to mention was that just in talking about this, something that I'm a visual learner. And when I saw the triangle where you had meditation on one side being concentration on the other doing, and then in the middle at the peak of that triangle, contemplation, like that lives inside

of me. That was not just something where I was like, yeah, that makes sense. I was like, holy shit. And it fundamentally changed the way that I relate to material and actually break it down and digest it. And that's been a big, you know, really big part of my mission. The people that I work with is like, you can't just,

it's not enough to fundamentally understand it. Like Bruce Lee said, it's not enough to know we must do. But in that too, we must understand. And that's where contemplation comes in. It's really letting this sit inside and start to land somewhere in my body where it becomes one with me. You know, and I think that is absolutely brilliant the way you put that.

Beautifully said. Yeah. And so for me, that was the second part, the second big part of my puzzle, my journey with the Gene Keys is this is the technique that unlocks wisdom. And so it unlocks the Gene Keys wisdom, but it also can unlock any wisdom and it can unlock our wisdom inside. So it doesn't actually, it's a standalone on its own, doesn't even require the keys. You know, if you learn the art of contemplation, and the book's only 90 pages, it's very, very simple. Like you said, it's like, you know, there's concentration where you're focused on something. And then the other side

is meditation where you're defocused, you know, you're literally just witnessing. And in the middle is this journey of contemplation, which can make use of both. It's focused, but also learning and relaxing. So it's a playful way of attaining wisdom. And I say wisdom as opposed to knowledge, you know, because knowledge is something that we put into ourselves, we take in, whereas wisdom is something that emerges from inside out. So the whole notion of the Jinkies is that they are not a knowledge. They are a trigger of wisdom. So as you focus on your profile in these sequences,

the wisdom emerges from inside you, from your interaction with life. So it's a living wisdom that has to be embodied. Otherwise, it's just mental. It's just a head trip. And so that is a really important part. So that little book is a really powerful little Zen book that I really recommend to anyone. It's a lovely little thing just can help you from day one with your life because it helps you understand that you probably already are contemplating. And it also, it's a way of solving any problem in your life. Because any difficult problem, not just a kind of mental problem, but like a big thing,

like everyone probably listening to this now has something that's going on in their life right now that they're grappling with. Apply the art of contemplation to that and you put space around that thing and eventually it will just resolve itself because you've given it space inside yourself, inside your life. So the foundation to contemplation is pausing.

We have to learn to pause, and we pause in lots of different ways. We pause. It's about relaxing, really. It's like you said, digestion requires that we stop you know and pausing doesn't even mean stopping entirely you can be in motion and pausing you could be doing tai chi or you can be doing you know something you could be doing anything you could be running and that's a pause you could be doing anything but it's a pause in between the daily kind of grind. So understanding what is a pause and how to kind of create a pause and a space for pause

is really, really the secret to that art. And it unlocks the wisdom. And then the second part of the program in the profile is called Venus Sequence, and that's the one about wounding. And that's a tough piece of work for most people. You know, it's a funny thing. We do statistics of how many people get the first one and complete it, and then we see how many people get the second one and then complete it. And the stats go down, you know?

It's like once people do the first one, they're like, they had a bite of the cherry and they kind of have a sense. But then to go into the second, the Venus work, is tough because it's, you know, and at the end of the first one, we put the first part of the second, so you get a flavor and there's a little kind of,

do you want to come on the next part of the journey this one's this is where the real work is emotional work and it's about it's the real shadow work it's like patterns from our childhood that recur and specific ones specific gene keys and shadows that relate to times of our lives when we're young and karmic patterning. So it can explain a lot of the reason that we struggle, for instance, in our relationships. But it can also harness those shadows and bring them out as gifts. So the things that we found so hard in our relationships then become our gifts. An example is the shadow of half-heartedness right jinky 29 if you have that somewhere in your venus sequence and there's

various points it can be um you probably have difficulty committing in relationships you know i mean you will do you know because there's always a part of you that's gonna keep a little compartment back just in case you know so you might commit you know 90 95 percent to that person but you're holding a little bit in reserve just in case there's someone else you know better to come along and the the powerful thing about that is like a friend of mine once said to me a mentor said 99 is actually the same as 1% when it comes to commitment. There's no difference. You're either 100% or not. And the beauty is, if you realize that, if you have that pattern, the moment you realize it and you see it in yourself, it's such a relief.

You're like, oh my God, no wonder none of my relationships work because I'm always holding out. I'm never committing a hundred percent to this one thing, this one moment, this one person. And once you see it, it shifts. And then you find, you know, you actually find liberation through commitment. The very last thing that you were expecting. You know, you find freedom through committing. It's a very, you know, that's a city, you know, that becomes devotion. Commitment becomes devotion. And it becomes, you know, and all the cities, these transcendent states are paradoxes, you know.

They're arrived at through paradox in some way and through some deep surrender, you know, and they're very physical. You asked about the cities and yes, we, you know, we have these higher states kind of encoded in us. And in a way, one way to look at it is they're waiting for a time in history where more of us will be accessing them. So they're sort of like dormant genes, you know, gene keys in humanity. It's like it's not yet their time. Do you know what I mean? Yeah.

But for many of us, we do these practices or we do our deep contemplation and stuff, and then we trigger one. We trigger this higher state in one of these cities, and it comes online and it awakens up. It might be we take a plant medicine or we do a ceremony or we do a lot of practice of some form, or it might have been like me. It's just spontaneous.

It happens. Or it might be making love. It might be out in nature. For people, it's just spontaneous. It happens. Or, you know, it might be making love. It might be, you know, out in nature. For people, it's different. It might be through trauma, you know, that it comes. But it comes when it comes. And then it gives us that glimpse. You know, usually it's a glimpse.

Glimpse can last a while. But often it doesn't stay. It subsides, you know, and then it gives us time to integrate the glimpse because it's a lot to take in. That frequency of that transcendent state of consciousness, that's a lot for our body, for our chemistry to digest. You know, that's why it took me seven years to digest three days. And so it's why, you you know people that do those things like i know you you're in austin so there's a big plant medicine community

there and a lot of you know activity around that but it you know that takes a lot those those heightened states the secret is integration right isn't it? Like you need time to digest, to kind of learn. And if you do it too often or too many times, you don't give yourself that time, that delicate time of the integration, the contemplation, you know? So, yeah. So much of what you said in talking about contemplation is not knowledge, but wisdom when you actually embody it. That is the whole point of integration. My good friend, Eric Godsey, who I work with at Aubrey, he's always saying that integration is really about habit change. How is it literally changing

your life? What are you doing on a daily basis that changed due to said experience from the fast, from the plant medicine, from the trauma that happened? How did that shift you in a way to where now you're the living embodiment of this new you? And that to me makes sense when it's to make something into wisdom, to make something embodied in you, it has to live through you. And I think that's a huge missing component, unfortunately, in the plant medicine communities. But I think as we get our bearings and we learn from the mistakes of others and stand on the shoulders of giants from the psychedelic revolution in the 60s, I think we can start to understand that as a critical piece in our

existence. If we are to work with something that's that powerful and valuable to really use that and, and take that value into our lives, it requires that. It really does. And there are many people in the plant medicine world who are using gene keys because it provides that framework. I mean,

it's a really good structure, a linguistic structure that, you know, that, that can give you the continuity of time. Because if you're following these sequences, it's not something you read and then just discard. It takes time.

So you wait until one revelation has come, and then you don't move on until it's come. And then when it's come, you feel it come, because it comes as an epiphany in your body. It's got to be physical, like you said. And then you're ready to move to the next sphere in the sequence. And then there's another whole thing that opens up for you. And so I've laid it out in the programs with the books and with know with meditations and journeys and tasks and sort of you know questions and you know that so it's a very nice framework for people to work with

but it's not a kind of quick fix you know it it is a contemplation is not a fast word is it it's like it takes time to kind of inculcate wisdom inside the body and the being. It's like, you know, but our raw material is our lives, especially our relationships, you know, especially. So the Venus sequence is like really targets those relationships. And it's, you know, we're about to launch a big retreat, actually Venus retreat. We do these online retreats, you know know lasting months where we follow the whole sequence as a as a global community so every month we have one gene key so you'd get your venus sequence at the beginning of the retreat and then month one is your first gene key and you look at that and we

explore what is that what is that you know and that's your underpinning from going into relationships that's your core stability if you don't have that one how are you going to differentiate what's your pattern what someone else is in a relationship you've got to have that core stability otherwise you're just caught up in someone else's issues and you don't know what's what you're're in codependence. So that's where it begins. And then it moves deeper into like karma and dharma and these other themes and emotional intelligence and SQ, which is soul intelligence. And then the core wound, because we each carry a core wound of some form. And then what is your core wound? That's something that you discover deep in the Venus sequence. And it's like an onion. You peel off a layer and then what is your core wound that's something that you discover deep in the venous sequence and it's like an onion you know you peel off a layer and then there's another layer underneath there's

another layer of trauma or wounding and then you you know and they each kind of have their time and they go right back to the trimesters of of the womb actually um and then they all get kind of crunched down into the point of conception you know which is where this i call it the sacred wound you know and it's it is sacred the sacred wound is passed from human to human at the point of conception it's beautiful you know and then it starts to kind of ripple out in this in this algorithmic way you, so that we then get these algorithms, sometimes call them the algorithms of awakening. But they're the algorithms of patterns, of shadow patterns,

that as we embrace them and transform them, they become awakening. So it's beautiful. Yeah, and I'm on the journey, you know, I've been on the same journey because the thing about these terma, these sacred teachings, is that just because you receive them doesn't have any guarantee that you know them. So I'm the first student in a way, and it's a constant learning process for me and others involved in the teachings.

And it also has rippled out into lots of different other areas. You know, there's sacred brant, there's sort of weird esoteric parts of the gene keys. And then there are sort of very practical bits that apply to business and prosperity. And, you know, it's a treasure box. So I've gone into, I'm still going to the treasure box, pull things out and then share them.

But they're part of the same stream of teachings yeah i love that i love that so yeah if somebody if somebody had printed theirs out like i did here you would effectively start at the very top go to the far right far left then the bottom and then that's where we enter into the Venus sequence going up. And those four that are red are the Venus sequence. Is this correct? Yeah. And you'll see that some of them overlap in the sequences because the sequences are all part of each other. Right. So the bottom would have half green, half red on the page because there's overlapping as you enter, leaving one stage into the next. Yeah. And in a way, a way to understand them is they're spheres of contemplation.

You know, so these are openings on our journey of awakening. So there's really only one sphere, but they're all nested inside each other. You know, so as you open up, it's like a safe, you're cracking a safe, you're a safe cracker. You turn one way, click, you turn another way, click, turn another way, click, then you get to the core wound and click and it opens. And then you're like, wow, I'm in the core wound here. This is like sacred ground. And you get to see which wound is yours. And you carry it not only, it's not personal, you carry it on behalf of the whole. know so they're collective they're pretty intense yeah absolutely where which would be the core wound in the venus sequence well it um it's written there as vocation probably um so it's the one the last one of the venus sequence it might say core i can't remember what it says. Does it say core? I see core as the first blue one. Yeah, exactly. So that is the core of the, yeah, that's probably half red and half blue now.

I got you. This was printed out back in the day, yeah. Yeah. So that's the basis. That's a really, really profound place inside us. And what you find is through the gene keys, not just looking at the keys themselves, but the lines of each key.

Each key is one of six lines. And I describe the lines in the online programs and in the other books that I've written that go with the programs. Because they're a whole kind of lovely, they're a very pictorial part of the journey, colorful. You know, so if you have, there's one of six. So if you're looking at that specific core wound,

then you're one of six core wounds that you have. So you're either, line one is repression, in which case your wounding is always about repression. It's always, the trauma was like you turned inward, you know, and so when you're under threat, that's what you do at the core. You turn inward, you know. Line two is denial, right, and that's the one that's aggressive. So when you're under threat, if you have a line two,

you tend to lash out, you know. If you're line three, it's avoidance, you know, because it's shame. The recall wound is shame. And so that's, you know, if you're under threat, you run away or you shy away or you change the subject or you try and make a joke or you do, you know, you're evasive, slippery. You know, you know, those people, you can like? You're trying to have a serious conversation with them about something and they just won't go there. They keep sliding away. That's the third line. And then the fourth line is rejection. And then the fifth line is guilt. You know, the guilt trip. They envelop you in their world of guilt and self-pity, but it's unconscious.

And then the sixth line is called, it's like disassociation, that you can move up your body, like the sixth line's up here, the first line's down in the base. First line is like pure terror in the body. And they're like the chakras. The sixth line is just disassociation. So you could almost say it's like the wound of that chakra. know because so they're layers inside us but they're also coded in our dna because our dna is built out of sixes out of triplets you know and in combinations of pairs so you get that's why they're called gene keys because we're looking at the building blocks of consciousness. And so our trauma is also built into that. So I don't know, I've never come across anything like the Venus Sequence.

It's a wound map, not something that most people really want to get into. But if you want liberation, if you want to attain higher states, you can't not go there yeah what what is the the what you uh i can't believe i'm forgetting this quote it's so so often used but um what you resist persists right yeah and uh we had paul levy on the podcast who wrote a great book called dispelling with tico and a follow-up oh i know yeah, I know. Yeah, Paul's phenomenal, right? And he talks about that, like, in the center of the darkness is the gem. That's the pearl of light. And it's only through that darkness

that you reach that unfolding back into the light and have a deeper level of understanding and awareness by having said yes to it. Absolutely, yeah. It's exactly the same truth, yeah, as I hold in the core. Yeah. As I, as I, as I hold in the core. Yeah.

I don't know. You can keep going on this. I definitely have other questions too. So wherever you want to take it. I guess the final part that, that kind of brings that phase of the teaching to a close and the profile is the, the final sequence is called the pearl.

It's kind of interesting because the first one is called, I love threes, so Jinkies is filled with trinities. So the first one is physical, the second one's emotional, the third one's mental. Or you could say also the first one's individual, the second one's relational, that's the Venus sequence, and then the third one, the pearl, is collective. So it shows how we are designed to collectively prosper.

And it's interesting because in the sequence, it flowers last. Prosperity comes after the heart is healed. And so anything that doesn't come out of the heart being healed is not really prosperity. Might be wealth, but it's not prosperity. So prosperity's got to be of the whole being. And so looking at your pearl sequence helps you define where you are designed to truly prosper, how you best work in society at scale levels are you a partnership person are you a entrepreneur are you a small team are you a networker are you a empire builder i'd say empire is a bit of a dodgy word but or are you a um you know are you a are you a systems a whole system being you know where do you fit into the scale that's that's these are the things that the pearl shows us um it's really interesting and because then you get to see the building blocks of

of how humans in one day will attain you know effortless prosperity you know and that doesn't mean we can't begin to build it now because if you if you've done your venus work it kind of starts to happen anyway because you find the right allies, you find the right timing, synchronicity, and prosperity starts to kind of build. And then, you know, that's the pearl sequence. So it's very magical. It's a completely new take on money. I sometimes call it like prosperity without success, you know, because it's not,

you don't have to be, you don't have to get caught in the ladder of success. Prosperity actually comes by mistake, really, you know, when you're not looking, when you're not trying so hard, because prosperity is not, you know when you're not looking when you're not trying so hard because prosperity is is not you know you probably know loads of people i know loads of people who got to the top of the of the wealth ladder and then realized it's hollow you know and then kind of found prosperity through simple things in life and that's what the pearl teaches us. It shows us like, how do I create the ultimate prosperity all around me? So it's kind of a very cool, very cool sequence. No, that's brilliant. And I love how that pairs in the sequence of actually digging in,

doing the dark, deep work with the shadow, and then allowing that to just unfold naturally as you progress through yeah totally yeah well one one question i i had that has been um really on my mind i know there's there's vast differences when when you explain it perfectly on how gene keys unfolded through your own downloads and your own experiences and really expanded upon human design. You mentioned Ra Uhuru, who's kind of infamous in nature, and I've learned a lot from him. He has quite a few lectures with ideas around the future that seem less palatable than most people predict and uh certainly in the last in the last uh couple of years um it's not hard to argue because he's looking way way ahead but um we you know we're in such a a vulnerable and shaky time human existence

i would love to hear your take on on what's coming as you peeked into the future earlier and how this all plays into it. Yeah, it's a great question. It's probably a nice place to kind of bring the conversation to a close as well. It's like, you know, as I said earlier, the Gene Keys has a prophecy woven through it. And that came out of the Gene Key 55, number 55, which Ra also talks about. And I guess, you know, Ra reads the same codes as me. He reads them through his mindset. I read them through mine. And so you get two different readings of the future. But also because I created the language with a transcendent aspect, I can also read that transcendent aspect,

which is not something that Rod attempted to do. And so where my reading of the future through the 55 differs from his is in that area. And for me, it wasn't even a reading. It was just, I saw it in that state. I remembered it in my body, in my being. I remembered where we were going. And I think others have had those flashes of, on the other side of the turmoil

is this incredible new human, you know, like an incredible new human with a new operating system that hasn't yet come online, but it's going to go through this awakening process. It's begun. And that's why the dragonfly is all over the gene keys as a symbol, because the dragonfly represents these three phases. The first phase is the underwater insect, the underwater nymph

that it is. And it lives underwater for two or three years. And then it climbs up, that's the second phase, it climbs up out of the water, up a piece of grass or reed. And then it goes through a huge transformation. And that's the transformation itself. And then the dragonfly emerges with these resplendent iridescent wings and becomes a creature of air. That's the third phase. And so in a way we are beginning the second phase you know and that second phase is like the hardest because you don't know what's going on and all around you is things breaking down old paradigms old ways even this even the web of nature herself you know beginning to break down you know being broken, being forced even to break open the structure of this place we live in.

And as we know, all kind of new rebirths come about through that, through that old crumbling in some way. So it's a very frightening time unless you have that view of the transcendent of where it's heading. And that's what I kind of got as a personal knowing, but also it's what the keys present. In every journey through every gene key, you see it. You see the shadow being transcended, transformed, know coming being flowering in the city you know finding it and these are inside us the gene keys you know they're like the whole of humanity will one day move into that higher state of consciousness into a networked higher human

being like one being one unified consciousness um but that's hard for us to kind of understand you know and yeah and i could take i could break it open and in the jinkies book it is it's described in its phases but um it you know it comes in you know as we do that venus work as we open up our hearts in our relationships, that's where it starts to flower. Because the moment we open up our hearts in our relationships, it is about love. The ancients have always been correct. It's always about love.

The moment we do that and our defenses drop away and those wound patterns fall away, that starts taking over the gene pool. Love spreads like wildfire and and that's the mutation mutation then opens up those higher centers those higher aspects those cities inside us so you know what comes with this time of fear is in immense promise, you know, what I always try and say to people is, look, when you look at the dragonfly as a symbol, the resemblance between the first phase and the last phase is just, it's not in the same dimension. One lives underwater. The one lives in air. You know,

one is just one single oily gray color. The other one is like iridescent. You would never think those creatures, like a butterfly in the caterpillar, you would never think those two creatures were connected. So we have to remember that. The thing that we are that's coming, we can barely imagine it from our current state. We can't even imagine it.

And the world that we will create out of that is barely imaginable you know it doesn't have i guess what i want to say is that when we look at the the past and then we look at where we think we're heading we always think in terms of continuity steps this led to this that'll lead to that putin invades ukraine it'll lead to this. It leads to this, it leads to this. What we never allow for is the quantum leap. We never allow for quantum leaps because our mind doesn't know when they're going to come or if they're going to come. But that's the prophecy woven into the gene keys that all the greatest transformations in nature take place through trauma.

Birth is the ultimate one, right? There's this incredible trauma. And then there's a quantum leap and this thing comes through. And you're like, oh my God, what is that? And it's like this this it's the new and so yeah we we you know it's important that people kind of feel this and that's why i try to put into the gene keys at every level is that transmission of what's coming is beautiful beyond our imagining and if you can hold that in your heart it really will help us through this next phase you know and

it doesn't mean that we can kind of drop everything and go oh it's all going to be fine it's it's actually the opposite in a way it's like if i'm if i'm feeling this this uplift that means i'm i feel empowered to kind of be a bit of an activist in some way. Like, I want to protect. I want to defend the mother, you know, the earth. You know, I want to fight injustice. I want to open more hearts. I want, you know, it puts you in service, puts you in divine service, instead of feeling like you can't do anything

because it's all going down the tubes, you know? Yeah. So, yeah, it's a beautiful message, I think, and I hope it's inspiring to down the tubes you know yeah so yeah it's a beautiful um message i think and i hope it's inspiring to lots of people yeah so that's the big time thank you so much i actually hadn't read the 55 the 55th key because it's not on my chart but i've got it pulled open now i'm going to jump right onto it. And tell me the name of your second book again on contemplation. Yeah. The art of contemplation. It's on Amazon. It's really lovely book. Beautiful. And if people like audio, there's a, there's a mini course on the,

on my website, genekeys.com. It's like $45 and it's me reading the art of contemplation, but it's put out in layers with meditations and it's a beautiful little journey that you can do over. If you're audio, that's another beautiful way of taking it in. Or you read the book. Both is good, I think. Incredible. Where can people find you online and talk about upcoming courses that you

have? Anything that's really exciting you right now? Yeah. Well, genekeys.com. And if you get your pro free profile, you get asked, would you like to receive the pulse? The pulse is our like weekly gene key of the week that kind of gives you, connects you into our global community. And it's really nice. I advise click that box, tick that box, and you will get this really beautiful thing

that just, you know, little thing that shows you the gene key of the week, you know, and gives you a backdrop of what's going on in your life right now. And also connects you to what's latest in Gene Key's world. There's always a video by me in each one of something,

of me talking about something, you know, all kinds of subjects. So that's one way. The thing that I'm most excited by right now, I don't have time to go into, but it's called the Dream Arc. It's under our courses. And I spent three years developing the program with a whole village. And in fact, last night we had a call on it. And what we did in the creation of it is that we interviewed loads of indigenous elders. And many of them came to our call last night.

It was quite a call. When you have like five, six different lineages from around the world with indigenous people in the same call, it's just like mind-blowing. And they're elders, you know, from Mayan elders to Navajo to, you know, Inuit. You know, like it's an extraordinary. Anyway, so woven into that

course Dreamark are that all the all the animal creatures and the dream spirits and it's that whole teaching of of the dream realms and and how we can interpret the dream realms and how we can enhance our dream life and understand that our dream life is a continuity. It doesn't stop. So when we're awake, the dream life is still going on. But if we know how to read the symbols, especially through the creatures and the animals around us, we have access always to that mythic level of our identity.

So it's a beautiful, beautiful program. And we launched it not that long ago um we've got a thousand or so people already in it and it's a big program it's a big it's a whole other gene keys actually so maybe we'll have to have to talk about another time but um that's what's really um something i i'm i'm really into at the moment yeah well jade jade has been telling me a lot about it, and it's something that I've definitely felt called to. Through my plant medicine journeys,

I've had many experiences with animals, and that's why our son's named Bear and our daughter's named Wolf. And oddly enough, we had lost a child in between the two, and it took about five years for Wolf to come. But I had an experience um with a dimethyltryptamine and some icaros from uh don alberto and uh the dragonflies ushered in

my daughter wow it was powerful i mean they let me know that she's safe she's coming she's ready and i was just floored i mean floodgates so that was my first experience on a very deep deep level with the dragonfly so all this is super resonant for me right now and i really appreciate your work brother okay i'll send you a a free link to the court to the program so you can go and play in there i would absolutely love that thank you so much and we'll definitely i'll get you back on as i work my way through that and chew on it and patiently allow it to come through me uh i'll most definitely have you back on as I work my way through that and chew on it and patiently allow it to come through me. I'll most definitely have you back on. Thank you so much, Richard.

I'm heading to Austin one of these days. So come and see you, you know. Please, please, please, please. I'd love to get you to meet Aubrey and get a meal in, see Jade and everybody out here. We'd absolutely love that. Yeah, me too. Beautiful. Thank you so much, Richard.

Great. Take care. absolutely love that yeah me too beautiful thank you so much richard great take care you