Kyle Kingsbury Podcast - #29 Beyond the Barbell with Mike Bledsoe

Episode Date: April 16, 2018

Mike Bledsoe is the Host of The Bledsoe Show and co-host of Barbell Shrugged Podcast. We sit down and discuss all sorts of things related to mentality and inner wisdom. Mike Bledsoe on Instagram Twitter Facebook Check out The Bledsoe Show and The Shrugged Collective Connect with Kyle Kingsbury on Twitter Instagram Check out Ownthedaybook.com Get 10% off at Onnit by going to Onnit.com/Podcast              Onnit Twitter        Onnit Instagram

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All it takes is willing to get choked, and you get a free ticket into Paleo FX. If you're in Austin, register now at 10, that's 1-0-P-A-T-X.com. Thanks for tuning into the On It podcast. Today's guest is a very special guest named Mike Bledsoe. You might've heard of that name before. He's got his own podcast, but he's also a part of the tandem, sometimes trio, known as Barbell Shrugged. Barbell Shrugged is one of the top 30 podcasts, I think, in health and wellness. They've been in the game for a long time, largely with the CrossFit era, but they've covered all sorts of cool shit. Some of my favorite podcasts have been with those guys. Dr. Andy

Galpin is a regular on that podcast. And Mike Bledsoe has been all over the world. He's done a ton of cool shit. He was in the Navy. He got into CrossFit in its infancy. He's run gyms. He's learned a lot about health and wellness from many different people. And really what we get into in this is talking about plant medicines and some of the things that he's gotten from that. But then diving deeper into seminars, meditation, some of the workshops on how we unpack and heal from past problems. And really, he's got a wealth of knowledge, and it's pretty cool to see how far this guy's come

and the wealth of knowledge this guy has that goes far outside of just strength and conditioning, which he does know a lot about as well. Hope you guys enjoy listening. Who's doing who first? I'm doing you first. We'll leave that on. We're not editing that out. i'm doing you first and we'll leave we'll leave that on we're not editing that out i'm doing you first this is the honor podcast we'll jump into mike bledsoeville uh shortly we're here with my man mike bledsoe what's going on you joined us in austin my friend i have

been here for a week now tell us tell us how got here. Tell us about your journey to Austin. How did I get to Austin? Well, Austin's my first step of my nomadic journey. So I decided, my wife likes to say, yes, Matic. But I'm just like, I don't know. Yeah, I've had, I'd say the last six months of my life, I've had a lot of personal development, and I've spent a lot of time reflecting on my life. And I realized that I had been putting a lot of stuff off until later. Putting stuff off until, like, oh, when I make enough money, when my business is at a certain point, when this, when I've completed that,

you know, and all this and then i woke up one day and i realized that uh i had i'm not gonna wait anymore so i made everything in my life work around what exactly i wanted to happen and one of the things i wanted to happen was to travel the world with my wife so i have all these places not just places it has a lot to do with the people and the places i don't know how many times i've i've traveled the world already meeting people and i get to spend an afternoon or a day with somebody or an hour interviewing them and i want to go spend some real time with them and not where i'm interviewing them the whole time and so uh yeah we're just traveling the world

and hanging out with the people who I've been telling I'm gonna come hang out with you for like three years you know I've got a lot of friends like that and so uh Austin's the first stop so I made everything in the business everything in my life work to make this happen and it took just you know I if you would ask me I remember wanting to do this happen. And it took just, you know, I, if you would ask me, I remember wanting to do this about a year ago and I was, I had this like three year plan to make it happen. And then in November, December, I was like, nope, it's happening now. And as soon as I decided it was happening now, it was about 30 days, about 30 to 45 days of crunch time to make it happen. But here I am. So I've in austin for a week and i uh

i've been spending a lot of time on it hanging out with john wolf sam pogue hanging out with you and uh i hung out with aubrey a little bit and just really getting to uh get in bed into the culture of a place and so initially i thought oh i'm going to embed into the austin culture but what ended up happening is i embedded into the on it culture instead you're very welcome to be here i don't even want to leave the building i'm like oh i could sit in the sauna i could go do jujitsu i can go uh i can go uh lift some kettlebells and maces and shit this is amazing yeah it's a good spot for sure yeah and tons of good food good music it's a fucking great nightlife but uh you guys just staying like airbnbs when you go to each place like how you

doing this how you making this work we're staying with friends oh no shit yeah that definitely works then it makes it super easy it works and uh there will definitely be times where we airbnb it because we want to have our alone time um and so we're gonna figure out you know what the right ratio is uh but one of the intentions we have many different intentions of our travels but one of it uh one of our intentions is to create community wherever we're at and then also uh condition ourselves to be able to ask that's it that's big because you know i think a lot of americans are brought up to be really to ask. That's it. That's big, man. Because I think a lot of Americans are brought up to be really independent and to not ask for anything.

And I definitely come from that school of thought. And so just saying, hey, can I stay with you or something like that can be really hard for people to do. So we're practicing that. And I have so many amazing friends in different cities. In Austin, it was actually, it was hard to see who we wanted to hang out with while we were here. Like who we wanted to stay with because, you know, we have so many friends here that are just amazing. Yeah, there's Paleo FX here is here every year.

And obviously you guys have, you know, Barbell Shrugged has been a mainstay coming here each year. I think it was, was it in May last year year but it's at the end of april this year end of april this year i think april 27 okay i'll be back here for that that'll be awesome man i'm looking forward to having you guys in town yeah but um yeah i'm sure you know you go to one large city enough you're gonna fucking have some pretty locked down friends that you want to hang out with matt vinson's become a good friend of mine every time he comes in from louisiana his um his co-worker for hate brand apparel lives here in austin so he'll just come and stay with me and uh sometimes he brings his wife and we got an extra room so it's nice having the space when guests are in town then you can just say like fuck yeah man

let's hang oh yeah that's when you really get to know each other you know that's it that's it because i i find myself when i was living at home being pretty isolated people would come visit but you know not i'm not having the community that i really want to practice and i want to have the worldwide community and i have a few friends who have done the nomadic minimalist thing and there's a little trick you go on facebook and you can just search people who live in the city oh no shit it'll just pull up just search people who live in the city. Oh, no shit. And it'll just pull up all your friends that live in that city.

And you go, oh, yeah, I went to college with that guy or whatever. And, oh, I've been meaning to catch up with that person, and I didn't realize they live in Denver. I thought they lived somewhere else. And you go, oh, okay, well, I guess I'm going to Denver. I'm going to reach out to them. You reach out to 10 people. I haven't had anyone say, no, you can can't stay no well you're a good guy i'm sure there's

some people that might try to pull it off and you can't do this you're gonna get a lot of no's yeah we're gonna find out real quick who you are it's like okay if anyone hang out with us like you need to change something about you you're getting turned down at every step by your so-called friends you might have to take a look at the hard look in the mirror that's right man well that's good so where are you going uh where you going next costa rica oh shit yeah we're only hitting uh really cool places i want to fucking i want to see jp sears and his fiancee out there and i want to see uh dr ben house it's a guy on facebook he's got a wealth of fucking knowledge i've been talking to ben yeah yeah yeah so i'm i'm gonna see if i can hook up with him because i'm there for i haven't

bought a return ticket this is this is something like i i've never gotten into before i've heard people go oh yeah just bought a one-way ticket to some other country i'm like huh i've always bought a return ticket it's a different feeling you know, I don't know when I'll be back. Yeah. So yeah. Our buddy Connor Moore is doing that right now. He's in LA. He's in LA. He's doing some podcasts and he's going to go up to San Francisco for an ayahuasca ceremony.

Then he's going to go back to LA and doesn't have a return flight. We'll see if he shows his face around here again. It might be. Connor's gone. The sun is so sweet in SoCal, man. You know it from experience it is it's um i would say what i like about socal is it's very nurturing and you can relax there it's not a place to get shit done though well it depends where you're at right because there's

there's parts of fucking la where it's just a mind fuck with traffic it's an hour to get anywhere five miles down the road but if you get towards the coast you can start to get that fresh breath there and i think about socal i think about the coast because that's what attracted me yeah hell yeah yeah for sure you got to be on the coast there's no what's the point what's the point going that far so i was talking to my wife when we moved to socal originally what's the point of getting moving to the west coast if you're not going to live near the water yeah it is point i thought that a lot you know and this is you know i got friends that live in the valley in socal uh i lived in the peninsula in the bay area it was 45 minutes to santa cruz you know

our work was there our friends were there so it made sense and then we could just drive to the beach when we wanted to have a little commute to the beach but there is something special about living right by the water and just going inland when you want to see other people. Oh yeah, for sure. So let's, let's break down a little bit, unpack, if you will, as Rob Wolf likes to call it, let's unpack kind of what was going through your head in this transformation process you've had in the last six months. Cause I think I saw you three or four months ago, maybe while you were balls deep in the transformation out at your spot in Encinitas ensinitas and um you kind of alluded to a lot of the changes that were happening but what if what are some of the

things i mean we got to talk at this um maps maps fundraiser at aubrey's house the other night and there was quite a bit of fucking tools that you were telling me about that sound really transformative and amazing i think a lot of people can get a lot out of that, you know, and, and, you know, we're, we're, we're guys that have experimented with everything with plant medicines, you name it. And I've, we've both had transformative experiences from that, but some of the things you were mentioning were things that are available to everyone and completely legal. And I've always curious because I want to know all the things, you know, I don't don't i don't judge i don't say what what i will or won't do but if you can hit the lowest common denominator then that really excites

me because then for the people that aren't willing to venture into the unknown you have something that's a bit more practical yeah there's um you know i think you and i are alike and that we're likely to be attracted to the taboo first it's like like, oh, I can't do that. Watch me. I'm going to push that red button, you know? And so I think that plant medicine can be really attractive because of its taboo nature. And that's definitely what broke me down originally. Like for me to be able to even want to get in these transformational experiences and being open enough to even wanting to do that, psilocybin was originally a really good gateway into that transformation and ayahuasca and other things. But in the last six months, I started participating. I had a lot of friends who also had a lot of experience with plant medicine recommend that I check out some of these personal development courses

that are out there and seminars. And I did the Landmark Forum and a series of that curriculum that followed. What Landmark really gave me was a lot of structure around what plant medicine, like plant medicine had brought and meditation has brought a lot of realization and and um i didn't know it at the time but looking back i felt like i was in this i was out in space in a way and i was i i really truly believe i was seeing reality more clearly than i had previously before and that was true and i was going to say more clearly than other people but i can only i i uh i can only the only test is myself right yeah i can't like comparing to other people it's just not fair um because i actually have no idea what their experience is but for me personally i have been over time getting a

clearer and clearer picture of what reality actually is and then going through landmark gave me like all of this very cerebral approach to things whereas a lot of times with plant medicines it gives you the feeling of like oh i feel like this is true and oh i feel like that other thing that I had been practicing, the way I was being was not true. And this is more true for me now. And a lot of times with plant medicine, there's a story that goes along with it. It's like along my journey, this was shown to me. It's very symbolic. And it definitely helped me out.

But these other tools, which are very cerebral in nature, really gave me a structure to have a conversation because the way I see the world is our universe is based in language. And if we don't have the ability to communicate with ourselves and with others really, really well and have the same conversation and have the same distinctions. And so what got brought to me during that time was, what do words actually mean? And having distinctions and what are we, what conversations are we collapsing? A collapse in two different ideas. So one may be, we have freedom in one hand and we have security in another. And I think most people walk around the world believing that you can't have freedom and security. You have to have one or the other.

And they feel like freedom is on one side of the spectrum and security is on the other side of the spectrum. And if we want more security, we have to have less freedom. And if we want more freedom, we have to have less security. And that's a collapse in an understanding. And what we can do is we can uncollapse that and go, look, you can have freedom and security. These are not tied together in any way, except for in your own mind. And the reason it's tied together in your own mind is because you've created this little spectrum in your head out of these two words now how many of these two

words have we set up a spectrum we could say gay straight you know these are two these are things that we've we've said oh there's most people probably consider these things on this spectrum they go oh either this much gay or this much straight or whatever. I already told me I was 12% gay. That's a fair assessment. That's a fair assessment. Maybe 20, 24%. Your hugs are a little long. I give a long hug. I'll brag about the length of my hug.

Long hugs and soft breaths. But these are things that, you know, these things may not even exist. And, uh, and, you know, and there might be a lot more flow there than people are willing to even have a conversation about, but, uh, and I'm not making an argument for having both of these, but like, there's a lot of things in life where people go, oh, I can either have this or that. And I go, why not both? And so really having that conversation. So having some of this more structured curriculum has been really good to create structures and conversations so that I can then interact with other people that have been through the curriculum. Now that was, that was step one. Step two, I stepped into this five day retreat, which my friend, Anant Perry, she puts on. And since going through the retreat,

we've, I told her halfway through, I go, this is being rebranded. It was something else. It was a journey to love. And she's been trying to get me to do her journey to love retreat for over a year. And I'm like, ah, another time, another time. But she came and spoke at one of my events and some of my clients became her client, her clients. And I watched my clients go through her process and come out the other side, just completely open and expanded. And I'm like, what are you doing? So finally I cave a few months ago and I go, okay, I'll come to your retreat. Five day retreat. Okay. Blocking my calendar, no works getting done. And I go into it. And what I discovered at the retreat is we're doing work with ourselves before the age of seven. So before the age of seven, we see everything is true. The brain waves are in theta,

and if you know anything about how the brain, different brain frequencies, say beta or beta levels, there's not a lot of learning that can even happen but in theta this is like meditative state deep sleep this is when the mind is most impressionable and you can actually get into the limbic system into the reptilian brain and where a lot of the subconscious resides and so what we were doing is we were doing all the work on the beliefs that had been embedded into who we were before the age of seven now after the age of seven, other parts of the brain end up getting developed and you have more of the conscious mind that exists. And finally, the neocortex where we can analyze things. The trouble is, is when things are happening in your

life, the part of the brain that's closest to the spinal cord, that brain stem, is making all the quick decisions. You ever snap at somebody and go, oh, fuck, and then like three seconds later, it's like, oh, I'm an asshole, right? And that's because your limbic brain is actually operating not out of choice, but it's just automated. And so I would say the average person, by the time they're 30 years old, 95% of their behaviors are automated now the majority of the automation that was set was set before you were seven years old do you ever watch somebody get upset with somebody else at the grocery store and yell at them or

stomp off or slam a door yeah they look like a little kid they look like a little kid and so this is um you've probably heard of like a past life regression, but there's also age regression work that can be done. And so we were essentially doing some of that. And so you go back to pre seven years old. Okay. When did I have the belief that I'm not valuable or I have to work hard to be valuable or I i'm stupid or these are little beliefs that float around and you'll know if you have these beliefs because when something doesn't go well like the way you wanted it to in your life and you get down on yourself i think everybody gets down on themselves from time to time yeah the self-critic yeah the self-critic steps in and says, hey, what the fuck? What exactly is that self-critic saying?

My self-critic was saying at one time, you're a stupid loser. So anytime something didn't go as planned, that little script would run through my head. Now, how is that going to impact my behavior? Wow. Like how many times did I almost compete at national level in a sport and then get hurt weeks beforehand, multiple years in a row? And the fact that I had this, you're a loser conversation running through my head, I go, hmm, I was, I was so terrified of being a loser that I would push myself so hard that I would get hurt before I had a chance to even step into the competition because I had to work harder than everybody else if I was going to be as good because I I wasn't as good in my own mind I was

great I was just fine and so I was able to go back and do that work before the age of seven and go, when did I start believing that I was stupid? And these were two separate things, but they got collapsed into one script in my head. It's like, there was one moment where I started believing I was stupid. And there was another moment, I believe that was a loser. And these were two separate incidents where I adopted this as my truth. And then as I got older, it melded into one conversation. And through meditation, what I did was I was able to notice that language and go, oh, I'm driving down the road. I just left this meeting. It didn't go like I wanted it to go. Oh, you're a stupid loser. Ran through my head. And I go, oh, wait.

I have my meditation practice. I'm being mindful. I'm just going to let that thought pass and go by. Yeah, I felt a little tug in my heart. We're just going to let it go. Now, did I really let it go or not? I don't know. But what I do know is when I went through this retreat and i went in this process what i did was i found the origin story like where did i

actually start believing that and then what we were able to do is hijack my limbic brain hijack the the part of the brain that's responsible for the subconscious, remove that belief. And it took a while. And then what we do is we used things like RET, rapid eye technology, and hypnosis, and tremors, and some other exercises to embed beliefs that are counter to that, but in support of the life that we want to live so it might be like instead of i'm a loser it might be something like i win at life now i might not walk around going i'm a winner like i'm better than everybody else but i'm gonna walk around and go i win at life and now that's the script running in the background so before when um and you don't always notice the script

that's running in the background it's not always always conscious. It's back to going that. So I might be walking into the gym about to go do a hard workout. And in the background, I have this I'm a loser thing running in the background. Well, the possibility of me getting hurt in the gym or doing something stupid or feeling like self-conscious, do I look cool in here? Am I as strong as the other guys? All this kind of stuff. I'm not noticing it on the surface, but it's still running the show. So when we did all this work, I noticed the idea is that you actually remove that. So even the subconscious script that's

running that you're not even noticing gets shifted. In fact, I walked into the retreat thinking, I'm not going to be able to remember things in my childhood. And sure enough, we get into meditation, visualization. There are ways of hacking that and getting in there. And there were moments where I was like, I didn't have a memory. I had a feeling. And out of that, over time and conversation, it was able to bubble up. So what we did is, I did all that work. And on the back end of doing that work, things in my life just started shifting automatically. All these things that I

wanted, I wanted my business to operate like this. I wanted to operate like this inside of my business. I wanted my relationship with my wife to be full of passion and romance. And it wasn't happening. But the reason that that wasn't happening is because I wasn't showing up in a way that I could have that. And now all of a sudden, I probably worked through a dozen beliefs in a five-day period period some people that were in the retreat worked through close to 30 um beliefs that were limiting them and the reason i had a dozen and they had 30 is because for a couple people uh it was their first experience with personal development work i see yeah and so they had never touched plant medicine so they had they were getting into it like heavier

yeah yeah um i had a i had to like dig a little bit harder, but I had the tools to dig harder because I'd done it before, stuff like this before. And so, yeah, it was really, really fascinating work. So all of a sudden, my life started working. You know, people talk about their life not working. And if your life isn't working, that means that you're out of integrity. people talk about their what their life not working and if your life isn't working that

means that you're out of integrity and that integrity comes from you keeping your word say i want this and i'm going to do what it make it takes to make it work and the moment something isn't working the way you want to you have to be willing to look at well what what piece of this entire pie is missing that I need to make work? And so I think it took going through a retreat like that to get really honest with myself and go, oh, my relationship's not working because I'm not showing up in a way. I'm not really giving her the presence that I could be giving her. This is what I, if you want to nerd out on the process a little bit, it's just fascinating. So two and a half days on what your mother taught you, two and a half days

on what your father taught you. So it was about 30 hours of work on mother, 30 hours of work on father. The fascinating thing about mother work is when you're born, you come out and then you go to your mother's breast for most people and a lot of people they you know maybe fed formula or taken by nurses but it doesn't change the fact that we don't really view our mother before the age of seven as separate from ourselves she is she is us and she's just an extension of who we are like from like an ego perspective and she she teaches us the way she acts, the way she talks, things you may overhear her saying to other people, things you hear her say to herself. She's teaching you how to relate to yourself. Now, your father is your first love. He's the

first person, whether you're a man or a woman, he's the first person whether you're a man or a woman he's the first person that you're going to love he's the first person you're going to learn to relate to and have a relationship with um outside of yourself and so he teaches you how to relate to others so you have your mother teaching you relate to yourself your father teaching you relate to others and then uh so you can imagine what kind of an impact that might have you know depending on what you're doing and your parents are teaching you unintentionally most of what you learn from your parents is unintentional they're not like sitting you down and giving you a lesson or this or that they're it's just how they're talking to somebody how do they behave how do they interact with each other that's a big one that's a big one

huge yeah yeah the more more children books that've read, the biggest takeaway I've taken for parents listening is mom and dad's interaction with one another has probably the biggest impact outside of the interaction they have with the kids. Obviously, if you're a helicopter mom or if your dad beats the shit out of you, that's going to have a pretty big fucking impact. But if mom and dad are loving towards one another if they rarely argue or if they if they do argue they're able to keep their voices low and come to an understanding and everything is always resolved at some point and the kids get to see the resolution as well that's massive because they know hey as in life

there's going to be conflict but if they if we can teach our children how we can constructively work through that and that there is a resolution and the children are there to see that that's one of the greatest teachings we can give our kids yeah okay we can work through shit and it doesn't have to be fucking flying tostadas going through there smashing into the cupboard like at my house or other shit that was going on you know and everyone's yeah all of our upbringing if you're in your 30s you can look back and we all went through some shit you know oh yeah oh yeah well and the thing is is what i what i actually find comical like not maybe not haha comical but i see parents go i can't fight in front of the kids but the energy

between the parents is still fucking shitty yeah it's still fuck you i fucking hate you how could you think that and the kids feel that yeah they don't have to hear it like even if you're hiding your words they totally get what's happening you i think as a parent you have the responsibility and when i say responsibility i mean you have the ability to respond and this is one of those distinctions i got from these courses is people talk about responsibility responsibility responsibility as if it's a burden. No. Do you have the ability to respond or not? If you have the ability to respond to the situation or the ability to respond appropriately in a relationship, you are responsible. And so take that responsibility. So if you're in a relationship and you're parenting kids and you have the ability to respond to your partner in a way that's more

loving than do it yeah 100 that's like one of the the best takeaways in any communication is speaking out of a place of love totally you know and if you really understand that like we have knee-jerk reactions based on emotional responses through our lens largely impacted by our first seven years and that goes on unconsciously so the knee-jerk reaction out of anger is to then hurt somebody or fear is to then hurt somebody or sadness is then hurt somebody right you did this thing that made me feel a certain way and i don't want to feel that way and now i'm going to fucking lash out yeah as opposed to remembering, hey, I love you and I don't feel good right now and this is why. Yeah. Yeah. So I did that work, you know, work through, you know, how I relate to myself,

how I relate to others. And then there's, you know, what you learn in that process is, you know, what are appropriate limits and boundaries for me? What does self-expression look like? There's all these categories of personality. And the question that I asked myself throughout that process and the question I've been asking myself for the last few months has been, what have I settled for? Where in my life have I been settling? And if you just sit, take a breath and ask yourself, get a journal out. Where have I

settled? Like, fuck, I have settled in every aspect of my life. My relationship with my wife isn't what I want it to be. My business isn't what I want it to be. My relationship with my wife isn't what I want it to be. My business isn't what I want it to be. My relationship with my friends isn't what I want it to be. My relationship with community, my relationship with my body, I've been settling and putting things ahead of what I really want over and over and over again. And it's so easy to say, oh, I'm going to make an exception today, but tomorrow I won't settle. Guess what? You're practicing settling. You're settling and settling and settling. And one day you're going to wake up and fucking have nothing but regret. So you have the opportunity right now is I challenge anybody, take an hour, do some Wim Hof breathing, sit up, grab a journal,

and ask yourself, where have I settled in my life? And look at every aspect. And if you can make a pretty long list, time to do some work. And the issue is, is if you don't actually, you can take action on those. And action is transformation. You will transform your life by taking action 100%. But if you don't want to repeat the pattern and create a necessity to do that over and over and over again, then you need to go back. You get to go back and heal those childhood wounds. And when you heal those childhood wounds the pattern can dissipate has the opportunity to

really uh just go away i don't know if i mentioned this but i think i started talking about is she is the the name of the retreat was journey to love yeah really close friend of mine and she's been working mostly with people in the fitness industry which is funny right and i i go i don't think this is branded appropriately i know this is journey to love like it was hard for me to do this and we're i'm doing it because we're friends and you you've convinced me that this is a good idea i go no this is now training camp for the soul and so uh i decided to team up with her and actually help her do it because it was, you know, I've done a lot of work. And I think that, you know, I don't think that any one piece of work is the only thing anybody ever needs. And everybody's path is different.

But this has had one of the biggest impacts on my life up to this point. I want to make it available to as many people as possible. Yeah, that's phenomenal brother i think and that's one of the reasons like as i mentioned earlier i'm so attracted to all the methods to the shamanic breath work holotropic breathing the plants to meditation to float tanks all of the fucking nlp like you like all of it man i'll tell you this all of it has a big impact? I did the five-day retreat and the next day I ate six grams of mushrooms. I was like, how do I cement this? We walked all the wisdom and knowledge into place.

It's like hypnosis, R-E-T-M-D-R, all this stuff. It's like, all right, if there's anything left, we're going to clean it up with a high dose of psilocybin here and heroic journey i was right it was good that's amazing brother that is amazing yeah damn so tell me tell me about your experience with emdr because that's another one that's come up there was a person there was many people from all walks of life at this dinner uh for rick doblin and the maps organization at aubrey's and you know obviously the purpose of that is to raise money for the phase three trials of mdma with ptsd and aubrey's doing a lot of work with that with the curious near campaign uh i think we can put

in links in the show notes to that for people to see we also have an infographic on what are the things to be expected from mdma versus psilocybin and uh just just a wealth of knowledge there as the science is backing what hippies and fucking psychonauts have been saying for years right yeah but but um well i think it's helping to ground it because the issue can be is like had i never found really great facilitators and all I had was experience with psilocybin, I would have made vast improvements in my life and happiness for sure. But the fact that I've met people who actually know what the fuck they're doing has made it even better. Yeah, no doubt. It's given us the structure.

That's how I felt working with Anahata. And I spoke a bit about her in the past. I have a podcast with her coming up she's um she teaches shamanjelic breath work like holotropic breathing and a number of other modalities out in sedona and she works with people if uh we're gonna be opening up spirit ranch to the public here and that's a aubrey's kind of one week getaway in sedona where you can really dive deep into yourself without plants and just fucking work on a lot of the same things you're talking about through various means and i've learned quite a bit from anahata but what i wanted to say was there was you know people of all walks of life at this dinner and fundraiser and um i met a lady who's a therapist and she was looking

for alternative means to help because if you're a good therapist and a good psychologist you don't give a fuck what the medicine is totally you just want people to get well right and the science is showing the power of mdma but she's had a lot of success using emdr and i've had a number of other people talk to me our buddy george you know 12 year marine works with us with marketing there's and this is just one of those other techniques where it's illegal you can see a therapist to get it done and there are different levels of practitioners as with anything in life same thing with shaman um but the really good ones seem to have a pretty good success rate using emdr yeah i my exposure to it's pretty minimal

actually i haven't had like heavy emdr but from what i understand how it to it's pretty minimal. Actually, I haven't had like heavy EMDR, but from what I understand how it works, it's pretty fucking magical. Basically, uh, the, the trauma that exists in the brain, they're able to find it through your eyes and smooth it out. Um, it's just like a oversimplified way of talking about it, but I don't, I don't know too much about the details of how exactly it works. Yeah. I just have a light experience on here, but yeah,orge on here but yeah it's uh it's just another tool and it's if at the very

tools are popping up all over there's tools all over the place right and i think the more we have access to those i talked i spoke quite a bit about that on the solo cast i did talking about my own battles with depression the most depressed states of my life were when I felt like I had nothing. I felt like I was stuck. And I don't mean nothing financially. I mean nothing like there was no way out. There was no other option. I knew one way to get something done. And if that way didn't work, I was fucked. And so when we add these tools to the arsenal, whether that's meditation, breath work, psychedelics, whatever the the case may be they allow us to see things with new angles new perspective and then that gives us new choices to make because we see

that it's not fucking a or b there's c d e and f and maybe there's a through z right there's infinite fucking possibilities and many ways to go about things in life and the more options we have the better but even just figuring out for yourself if it's in my control then i have then i have a responsibility to work on that and if it's not in my control then i have a responsibility to let go of that right i have a responsibility to surrender to it and allow things to happen because ultimately we don't control everything in life we're along for the ride right mostly yeah we have some control we have a lot more control than we think we do and a lot of responsibility on our outcomes personally and

most most importantly we have the ability to choose how we feel about things right i'm in control of my state of being no matter what happens to me on the outside, I control what happens on the inside. Definitely. And that impacts how you're showing up in a situation. And another thing you have control over is how the world is occurring to you. And so this is probably one of the closest things to magic i've been able to experience uh sober and that is that is um shifting how a person is occurring to you this will be like a really specific example is say my wife is uh she's we're just not getting along on a thing like i want to do something she doesn't want to do it we're not getting along it's it's Like I want to do something. She doesn't want to do it. We're not getting along. It's, it's not happening. And I'm now starting to build resentment towards her.

I'm like, oh, why does she got to be like this? I don't know if I want to be married anymore or whatever. Right. In that moment and leading up to that, she's occurring to some, she's occurring to me as somebody who, um, I don't like, you know, that she's, she's occurring to me as somebody who's don't like. She's occurring to me as somebody who's stopping me from doing the things I want to do. That's how she's occurring to me. So what I do is I make a shift. I make a conscious choice for her to occur to me differently. And there's a lot of different methods

to get the whole world to occur to you differently. I've done this with like, how can this entire segment of the population occur to me differently? And the quickest way to shift is I sit down and I write down 10 things I appreciate about that person or that group of people or whatever it is, whatever I'm having this feeling, this negative emotions towards. Because when you walk into a conversation or you approach a thing and it's occurring to you as something that's shitty shitty outcomes will happen so yeah you definitely have control over your own state of being and

that's when i when i think about your state of being it's your it's a collection of your thoughts feelings emotions all that kind of stuff so what i do is i i love this little experiment because it fucking works every time and i remember the first time i did it my buddy uh jesse elder he's the one that gave uh gave me this little uh exercise and you should have him on sometime awesome hell yeah brother so uh i just wrote down the 10 things i appreciate about ashley my wife and i go the 10 things i appreciate about her and when i'm in a pissy mood guess what i don't want to do sit down I go, the 10 things I appreciate about her. And when I'm in a pissy mood, guess what I don't want to do? Sit down and write down the 10 things I appreciate about her, right?

And so what I do is I just do it anyway. I go, okay, I'm grateful or I appreciate Ashley for, boom, boom. The first time I did, it took me like 30 minutes to come up with 10 things. Had I been in a great mood, it would have taken me like 10 seconds, but it took me about 30 minutes. And then I was going to approach her about a conversation about a thing. And she comes out before I can even open my mouth. She's like, you know what I've been thinking about? I think it's okay for this to happen. I'm like, what just happened here? But the funny thing is, is that has happened many times over not just with her but business partners and stuff like that it's like how can this person occur to me differently and all of a sudden five words into a conversation everything that i thought the conversation was

going to bring completely flips and how the world is occurring to you is how the world will occur. And so you can really shift your state of being pretty quickly. And that's a practice that I've gotten better at. You know, I go, oh, I'm going to be grateful for this group of people. You know, I've done that for my audience. You know, I have an audience and I go, sometimes it has nothing to do with the audience. I'm having this moment where I'm not really appreciating that. And for some reason, I'm feeling like it's a burden. I don't know if you've ever felt that before. Big time.

Okay. I'm not the only one. Big time. Very recently too. Yeah. It feels like a burden. It's like, like okay how can this group of people occur to me differently like i'll just be honest about it you know i was like i was

feeling like uh this crossfit audience was being a burden at one point and and even though it's like my entire fan base and like these are the people who i want to help the most, but I've got my own internal shit. How can people who are CrossFitters occur to me differently? I'm like, oh, wow, this is just me. It's my shit. It's making this the way it is. And then I make that list, and all of a sudden, my entire life changes, my entire business changes and transforms in an and transforms and, and in an instant and like 30 minute exercise really take me five minutes if I, if I am practicing it and doing it well. And another, so that's one way to get a situation or organization or a person to occur to you differently. And then I like to start my day off with thank yous. So I want my whole universe to occur to me differently

or to occur to me in a way that serves me. And so I like to wake up with thank yous. So I know a lot of people do gratitude journals and all that kind of stuff. But who walks around with common language and goes, I'm grateful for? Not not me i say you know when someone opens the door i say thank you someone you know if someone were to you know buy me a car and you should start the thank you journal because gratitude journals are

fucking selling like hotcakes yeah the gratitude journals so 2008 we're doing uh the thank you journal by mike Gletzo. The new hotness. You're out of business, great. Gratitude journal. No, but I just say it out loud. I think of something I'm grateful for. I say, thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. It builds so fast. It's like a snowball. And I'm like, I can't get the thank yous out verbally fast enough. I'm like, thank you, thank you, thank you. I get high off of it. I get little tingles going up my back. I got the hairs on my head standing up. And I'm like, thank you, thank you, thank you. And now I start my day from

a place of thankfulness and gratitude. And I've already thanked the universe for showing up. So there's a little trick on that too. So you say, thank you, thank you, thank you. You build up this feeling. So the way you show up, the way you're being impacts how the world occurs to you and how things are going to happen. So now what I do is I get this fucking momentum where I'm like, thank you, thank you, thank you. I'm like, oh, this is awesome. And then I start thinking, I'm thanking the universe. That's how I'm thinking about it, or I'm like thank you thank you thank you I'm like oh this is awesome and then I start thinking I'm thinking the universe is how I'm thinking about it or I'm thinking myself and I'm thanking myself for things that have yet to happen so I I thank the you know myself in the universe for everything that's happened up to this point and now I start thanking for the things that I

want to happen and it just feels good and things just start happening it's a lot of fun awesome brother i like any and i like all the different tools for for gratitude and things like that that's something that's continually there's there's a few messages that i've gotten consistently over the years with plant medicines and i've seen gratitude written in gold writing multiple times and ayahuasca and psilocybe oh yeah and just to embody that through every cell of your body just fucking pure love and thanks you know that that's a pretty warm feeling to have you know and i think setting the stage that way really puts us in a place where we are in appreciation right so many times many great self-help books many great spiritual

traditions they're all alluding to different different you know means up the mountain and many paths lead to lead up the mountain right oh yeah but that's that's such a big one to have because ultimately if we think about all the things we don't have the things that we haven't yet got we're focused on a lack we're focused on really being in a state of wanting and not having you know when we see everything we can be grateful for we've got a lot everyone everyone doesn't matter where you're fucking at you've got if you can hear this you have an electronic device that didn't exist like 50 years ago or probably 10 years ago yeah yeah it's incredible um we live in a really incredible time you know

it's 2018 um not only do we have all this technology and we're able to share all this information but the we have all these different religions of the world have been practicing our own form of spirituality and for the first time in human history, we can have a global understanding of what's going on. You're talking about what's common amongst these spiritual practices. And it's like, wow, we actually have access to all of this ancient wisdom simultaneously. And you can find all these things that are common and go, go oh this is what's going to work for me it's pretty cool yeah it's funny and people uh people poke fun at i forget the fucking movie it was it was uh god damn it it was an owen wilson's in it and i think vince vaughn and uh

will ferrell is selling uh mattresses at some place and he has a tattoo on his neck in uh sanskrit and it says it means make good or make wise decisions but they're both be fun at this idea and they do it again with russell brand uh uh in one of the movies where you know they're they're just saying like you can't just take an amalgamation of everything you like from every major religion and call yourself spiritual that that's not how it works it's bullshit and what's funny is if it adds something to your life it's not bullshit you can't discredit real feelings because feelings are fucking real that's how we interpret the world that's how we might be the only thing you have yeah that's that is our waking consciousness you know that that's why i buy shit i buy shit i drive a certain

car i live a certain way because it's going to make me feel a certain way i'm like i'm going after feelings people may say they're going after experiences but they're actually going after the feeling the experience gives them yeah and oftentimes if we associate a feeling with an experience and that doesn't come to fruition we we have the experience without the feeling we thought was going to happen there's disappointment oh expectations yeah yeah the expectation is there that i thought going to the beach uh for for a week would make me relaxed and happy and it you know my wife wanted a plan sightseeing and doing all this other shit and i didn't get to unwind and so that expectation wasn't met now i look back on that trip as as a burden and i still feel like i need a vacation after the vacation and all this you know and it's like well sure

that's that's where we have to align our our expectations and our hopes with a real path to get there yeah like hey this is what i need this is what i'm expecting so this is what i need in preparation to make sure that that comes to fruition yeah right to outline the path really can can give us easier small little nuggets to pick up on on our way through that yeah yeah i want to go uh going back to uh spirituality conversation the uh i i think that all these different religions base this whole system around uh around somebody's spiritual development it's like jesus christ had an incredible amount of spiritual development and then what we did was we built a whole religion around it and it kind of works it'll get you like 50 there but you actually have to go on your own path to to get to like where you're actually wanting to go so yeah outlining it yourself

you have to uh i it's kind of strange how do we outline our path or like what we want but not be attached to it so that like if it doesn't happen the way we want about it yeah right i mean fuck we do it with everything we do it with food this is the diet you know we do oh yeah training like gotta be keto gotta be paleo yeah only cross it's the way to train no bodybuilding is the way to train no powerlifting is the way to train and it's like maybe they're all fucking good you know maybe cleaning up your diet for paleo for a while is good for you for a particular amount of time and then you're okay to go back to eating white rice. And then you're okay to fucking venture into other things. And you go low carb in the wintertime.

And you fucking train for a month doing hypertrophy bodybuilding style work. And then you go back to powerlifting for a month. And then you do some Metcons and some fucking, you know, some CrossFit stuff. Like it's all good. You're describing my 20s. Yeah. But it's dope right variety is king with anything in life yeah and into to really just the act of going for it

is going to get you results definitely no matter what that is taking action yeah and i found like going back to the spirituality stuff like i read the bhagavad gita on uh audible and it was the version by i think ursa one oh that guy's brilliant dude dude just fucking mind-blowing just go search that guy's name how he has uh ursa on something yeah you can look up something like that on amazon and you can search his name on youtube you can hear this guy drop some knowledge bombs on spirituality. Yeah, I think he was like Gandhi's main understudy. He has an English accent. You know, he's very, very sound smart. Very easy to put on the same for an Indian guy.

You know, it's not like a boo off of the Simpsons, you know, like it's very easy to understand. And I don't mean that in a negative racist way. I mean that like you could listen to him and understand clearly. I mean, I took physics too from somebody who had a thick indian accent that was a rough fucking that's hard that's hard to get by right but um you know that teaching to me back you know 15 years ago i wouldn't even fucking open the book could have been like nah this is just some shit they believe in the east you know and then through my own self-discovery and wanting to learn more and see what other cultures know like i was i was blown away by how much how many nuggets of truth

there are in that book and then also how many parallels there are to western religion and other things like that like there's a fucking tons dude there are so many parallels it's ridiculous people want to act like things are different. They're not that different. They're not. One of my favorite quotes when it comes to talking about world religions and spirituality is a quote by Ken Wilber, who I think is one of the most brilliant people on this planet right now in regard to this conversation. And he says, not everybody can be wrong all the time. That's it. You know, it's like we don don't so many people don't want

to look at somebody else's practice and accept that there's probably something in there it's valuable for them and it's that kind of approach that allows us to integrate everything that's you know we have the opportunity of integrating everything that's happened up into this point into our lives and if we want to act like we're isolated from not just the rest of the world in this moment but from our past and from our ancestors past and all of that we have the opportunity to really integrate all of that into our current life i think think that's the key to having fullness. Yeah, because we can round out some of the corners. Oh, yeah.

We fill in the gaps with new knowledge, new experience, and different approaches to things, right? It can be we're all going up the mountain, but we can take different paths to get there. And at different times in your life, it's necessary for the change-up, to break up the monotony of life yeah very important it's interesting going through say some transformational experiences because the intent of a lot of these is to let go of the past you know and and uh i think it can get really tricky to

figure out what is it that i need to let go of. But letting, I've gone through the process of letting go of everything and then realizing, oh, there is so much there that I'm leaving behind. I can integrate all the stuff that was serving me. There's a lot of good things about when I was in the Navy that was just really, really positive, that really shaped who I am today. And then there were, but there was a lot of things that I wanted to get rid of. And for a period of time, I got rid of everything. And now it's like, oh, no, there's parts of that that I really need to integrate,

where I have the opportunity to integrate in my current life to make it a much richer, fuller experience. So the plan then would be to take, give it the new name again? What was the new name of the five-day? The Guide to the Soul? Training Camp for the new name again what was the new name of the five day the guy the guide to the soul training camp for the training camp for the training camp for the soul so no fucking around here there are you know this is done in southern california and it's been done primarily out there but the plan then would be to roll this out to other major cities yeah so yeah the next one's gonna be march 15 in uh near san diego

idle wild is where we're gonna be and then um yeah we're talking about doing it in austin and uh you know we may do it in some other cities too we'll see how it goes um i love doing it in san diego because it's so easy but but Austin, Texas is awesome. I'm not gonna make any promises, but well, I want to, I want to, I definitely want to give it to go. Obviously we,

we had a, like we got to talk about it for like an hour during the Superbowl and my wife and I are both fucking pumped to give it a real try and just to see like what develops. And especially, you know, when I take this back as my only real frame of reference doing spirit ranch,

Sedona, we had a, I think I've mentioned it before on the podcast, you know, and I take this back as my only real frame of reference doing Spirit Ranch in Sedona, we had a, I think I've mentioned it before on the podcast, but working with Anahata, there was a consciousness relationship workshop that she did on one of the days that was two hours long. And I've got my wife right there. And I'm like, dope, man, nobody else has their significant other with them. We're going to really get to go deep and, and, you know, learn some new things about each other and be better communicators. And right when we sit down, it had nothing to do with your significant other. She said, who is the greatest teacher you've ever had? Like, think of that person. She waits a minute and she's like, okay,

the greatest teacher you ever had doesn't necessarily, it's not necessarily the person who's taught you the most good. It's the person that's taught you the most period, the good and the bad, right? So that's usually your mom or your dad or a sibling. It's somebody you spent the most amount of time with and they've taught you the ways you want to live and all the things you don't want to live with, the things that you don't like about yourself, the things that you've embodied that you want to change and and really you know especially as a parent like how you don't want a parent like what is that and it for me it was fucking two hours of my mom and it was one of the most beautiful fucking two hours i've ever had i took pages of notes more than i do in an ayahuasca ceremony and that was just two hours out of the six days right i have a whole fucking workbook

full of notes so with the right teachers and hearing different language and different methods to get there there's so much you can extrapolate in a short amount of time i mean you do a five-day retreat like that and you probably it's a life-changing experience you know and you probably have far more that develops just like after, you know, three days of ayahuasca, the medicine continues to work. You get new revelation, shit comes up in your dream, shit comes up while you're meditating and you continue to learn and expand upon the things that you're given in that five day experience. Oh yeah. It can take, I was talking to my friend and not who does the training camp for the soul program and she

notices and keeps up with her people afterwards 18 months later is it seems to be that the length of the life cycle of that transformation and I noticed the same in the ayahuasca the first time I did ayahuasca I thought I had integrated in like a month originally. And then looking back on it, I think it took me a good two years to integrate that first ayahuasca experience. And I had a lot of experiences between, but I really, it took a long time for me to integrate in my life and for it to really sink in to my being. So I think, yeah yeah i think a lot of times people just think about the medicine or just the retreat or i'm gonna have this transformation transformational experience and then you know i went over the weekend and on monday i'm calling all my friends i'm so fucking

awesome now and and uh they're they're going uh-huh uh-huh yeah we we've seen this before yeah he gets really excited after these things. And it's like, but what really sticks? And that's when the real work starts. That's the work, right? That's the fucking work. That's the work. I had a shaman in, they're not shaman,

they're called taitas in Colombia. And they call ayahuasca yaje there. So we had done a yaje retreat. It was me and 10 people from all over the world dude from sweden finland mexico they came in from all over and um he told this story about how he had done i think it was like a stirred ceremony and he told his wife he's like man i'm healed i know this thing i know what i feel that i'm healed and she's like but how do you know you're healed and he's was like, I fucking know it.

I know it in my heart. I know it through everything that I'm healed. It'll never happen again. I've been fixed. It's all good. It went through me and I feel different. She's like, I don't know that it's permanent, you know? And then he started to get angry by that, right?

Because there was resistance there like, fuck you. How do you know that I'm not healed? You're like, what are you talking about? And it was really bothering him. And he's meditating on it you know two weeks went by and then he realized like oh i'm not healed but i have awareness i have awareness that that thing that i don't like right and all it takes is shining that light on the darkness for me to catch it sooner it doesn't mean that i won't have that feeling again or that i won't go through some shit that continues to test me in my progression but with that awareness it's much easier to catch

sooner and then i can let it go and surrender to it or think intelligently and constructively on on what are the ways that i can fix this situation totally i want to i want to share an integration story because i think um one of the things I try to share is practical applications in my own personal life. So it makes sense for others. And, and I think a lot of times we talk about ayahuasca and integration and, and people are like, what the fuck are these guys talking about? But my, I had a very direct experience that people I think will understand. And I was sitting with mother Aya one night with my wife it was just me my wife and a couple of ayahuasca arrows so we lucked out and private private training private

training fuck um that was an interesting ceremony overall i think i had an ayahuasca experience for about 45 minutes of that night she came in she cleaned house and she got out. And I sat there and watched every, you know, the, our two ayahuasca girls and my wife, you know, having their, their journey experience. And I'm just like, wow, when's this going to be over? But I got exactly what I needed. So I, I went in mother ayahuasca comes and, and she heals me of this, thing um that i'd been dealing with and it was uh some shame you know ayahuasca tends to get in there and clean up around guilt and shame and all these kinds of things and i had some shame about uh something a particular instance in my early 20s and i'd never shared it with anybody you know i was like i'm not gonna share it like this thing

and uh what's funny is i've shared it with people since. They're like, oh, that's not that big of a deal. But I was making such a big, you know, you bring it on yourself, right? And it's not something I would be proud of. Definitely not proud of it. But she like, I got a lot of healing during the ceremony around that. And then she told me, you know, you didn't even have to sit with me for, for, to have this healing. Your healer is laying right next to you, my wife. And she goes, anything that you don't love about yourself, she's there to love and

teach you to love. I go, what the fuck? And that was when the medicine just left. She like said that. And that's when I was just like, oh, I'm done. And he's like, she came in, delivered the message and then took off. And so that night I was just blown away. And I had so much more appreciation for my wife that night. And the next morning we get up and I tell her exactly what happened I said hey this is the message I got and she goes oh yeah totally I love every part of you even the parts you don't love about yourself I go oh and I tell her about the thing and she goes I still love you I love that part of you. And I go, wow. And it felt so good. And then that night I go, well, I just want to share a bunch of stuff I've never shared with you. I started digging stuff from my childhood

that I was ashamed of and I didn't like this or that. And I said, she starts sharing with me. And I'm like, oh, I still love you. I still love you. And so we're in a relationship where we have the opportunity to heal each other because where we lack, where we feel like we're not healed is the parts of ourselves that we don't love. And so she goes, I still love you. And it gives me permission to love myself in that area too. Wow. I didn't think anybody could love me and love that part of me, but because she's demonstrated that she can still love me,

I can love me too. And so, yeah, that's called integration. I took the lesson and what I didn't do is I didn't just go, cool, I feel like I got healed from that one experience and now I'm going to go on about my life. It's like, no. Mother mother i has said i get to share this with my wife and she gets to help me heal so now i don't even need the medicine for that to happen i can just when there's something that i'm feeling ashamed about i just bring it to my wife makes it easy oh yeah ish so there's this thing i'm completely ashamed of i want to share with you hell yeah brother yeah well fuck man we hit an hour we're gonna jump on your podcast here after a quick smoke break perfect but um where can people find you online uh go over to the blood so show.com if um you're looking for these types of conversations. And I've already interviewed you once.

You can check the other interview I did and the one I'll be posting. And then if you're really into the fitness scene, go over to barbellshrug.com. Yeah, you guys have fucking two excellent podcasts, brother. Yeah, thank you. Where are you on the social medias? Instagram, Mike underscore Bledsoe. And on Facebook, you can search my name mike bledsoe

and uh i think i think my it's like facebook.com slash bledsoepia or something dope brother thanks for joining us man it's been an absolute pleasure hell yeah thanks for listening to the on it podcast with my buddy mike bledsoe, really appreciate it when you guys leave five-star reviews on the Onnit Podcast because it helps other people learn about this dope podcast and really spread the word. If you're not leaving a five-star review, tell your mom, tell your friends, tell everybody to tune in. That also works. Also, check me out once a week, 6 p.m. Central Time on Facebook Live through the Onnit main page. All you got to do is click like on Onnit on Facebook, and you can see me every week at 6 p.m. Central Time, and we're

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