Kyle Kingsbury Podcast - #293 Co-creating Your World Using Your Words w/ Peter Crone

Episode Date: March 8, 2023

Cheeky accent aside, Peter Crone is an Elder. He opened me up like I could not have expected. We basically went through a short session, digging into my old story of the world growing up. Peter walked me through redefining my world and becoming an even more conscious and intentional co-creator of my world and thus the collective. LIsten up for the details and to bring these nuggets of gold home with yall. Love ya! ORGANIFI GIVEAWAY Keep those reviews coming in! Please drop a dope review and include your IG/Twitter handle and we’ll get together for some Organifi even faster moving forward.   Come see us at the ranch in Lockhart! We’re having our first ever educational gathering March 31 - April 2. Limited tickets available, so head to  Permaculture 101 w/ Gardeners of Eden and get your tickets fam!   Connect with Peter: Website: PeterCrone.com  Instagram: @petercrone Show Notes: Nature is Metal Instagram Sponsors: Analemma Coherent Water the science is here to support structured water and these folks have the best and easiest way to get it for yourself anywhere you go. Go to coherent-water.com punch in code “KKP” for 10% off your wand! Organifi Go to organifi.com/kkp to get my favorite way to easily get the most potent blend of high vibration fruits, veggies and other goodies into your diet! Click that link and use code “KKP” at checkout for 20% off your order! Go get their collab with MindPump Media, PEAK POWER!! Lucy Go to lucy.co and use codeword “KKP” at Checkout to get 20% off the best nicotine gum in the game, or check out their lozenge. HVMN - Ketone IQ This is legit jetfuel for your brain. Whether you’re fat adapted or not, this will work. Get 20% off by heading to hvmn.com/kkp  discount is automatically applied at checkout.    To Work With Kyle Kingsbury Podcast   Connect with Kyle: Fit For Service Academy App: Fit For Service Academy  Instagram: @livingwiththekingsburys   Odysee: odysee.com/@KyleKingsburypod  Youtube: Kyle Kingbury Podcast  Kyles website: www.kingsbu.com - www.gardenersofeden.earth  Zion Node: https://getzion.com/ > Enter PubKey  >PubKey: YXykqSCaSTZNMy2pZI2o6RNIN0YDtHgvarhy18dFOU25_asVcBSiu691v4zM6bkLDHtzQB2PJC4AJA7BF19HVWUi7fmQ   Like and subscribe to the podcast anywhere you can find podcasts. Leave a 5-star review and let me know what resonates or doesn’t.

We're back. We're back and we have the return of the amazing. I want to say the thrice great, but it's only the twice great. It's the second time Peter Krohn's been on this podcast. He was a speaker at our most recent Fit for Service event down in Lockhart Farm. Peter's been a friend of mine for the last few years and he has been an amazing teacher for the last few years, and he has been an amazing teacher for the last two years. And he taught a workshop with the agreement from my brother, Eric Godsey, another one of the coaches and multi-time guest on this podcast. The agreement of Eric Godsey did in front of the entire 200 plus person crowd, a little breakdown, Varick's childhood story. And so much of that resonated with me.

And I knew we had a podcast coming at some point over the weekend that I actually wanted this for myself. And some of you may wonder why I would choose to dig into the shit on the podcast, but it's fucking powerful. And the reason it's powerful is because a lot of us share similar stories. I felt at first listening to Peter detail Eric Godsey. And as he did that, certain parts of me were unlocked. Certain parts of me really resonated with that story

and certain parts of me were able to let go of that story. So it is my hope, even though we all come from different backgrounds, that some parts of this story will resonate with you. And if they don't, totally cool. But hopefully it can give you some of the tracking material necessary to actually look into your own life and see what stories you've created based on how your little child was treated and based on what experiences you had as a kid. What story did that create that you still live to this day? And the odds are there is a story.

The odds are very fucking high that there's still a story. So if you get real honest with yourself, and as Paul Cech says, you stop bullshitting yourself, I think you'll be able to dig in a little deeper. And then hopefully as I'm doing, I haven't mastered it by any fucking means, not in a week. Hopefully you can begin to replace that story. Uh, we dive into my story. Uh, there's, it's hard for me to talk about it still. And, um, and it's illuminating. And in the end of it, pretty fucking rad because I was able to replace that story. So I love Peter Crone. He is absolutely

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with everything that's kind of gone on well fill me in what's been happening well you know i'm not aware you said it best you're like it turns out there's some fucking evil people in the world right yes yeah and thank you right because so many people in your field and life coaching or in anything else you'd fucking call it whether you're spiritual or anything on gaia you know for that matter yeah even though they've got some deep state videos and shit like that for the most part it seems like they lean into only looking at the light and not being able to see the dirt and the grime of the fullness of our experience here.

So that was fucking refreshing and fresh air for sure. To hear people like myself speak about that? Yeah, I think it was quite shocking for me because i as compassionate as i like to be and understand that full scope of humanity and that like truly everyone's doing the best they can within the level of awareness they have you know i'd always like attributed even like a man who's a bit abusive to a spouse or a girlfriend which i don't condone and it's pretty abhorrent. But nonetheless, if you knew everything that that man had been through, and perhaps had been reprimanded consistently by his own dad or hit, sort of a language he learned that then he superimposed onto that next generation, right? It doesn't, again, doesn't condone it, but at least you have

some compassion, you can understand it, right? So it sort of falls more under the auspices of a little bit of trauma and someone just trying to figure it out but then you look at what's been going on i'm like no no they know what they're doing and it's literally just bad it's like yeah that falls into a different bracket i think of something sort of satanic and evil and yeah it's it's a anti-life right evil the palindrome of live and uh you know as paul check says you know it's just moving Yeah, it's anti-life, right? Evil, the palindrome of live. And as Paul Cech says, it's just moving against, if it's not, if it's life affirmative, it's pro life, pro live. And if it's life denying or freedom denying or anything that's associated with that, then you'd say that that's evil. It's a fair definition.

It doesn't mean they need to have a mustache and twist that shit behind some closed door somewhere. Or a trident. Exactly, with a little red tail. A spade on the end. I think for all of us, and even the likes of this group here, you, Aubrey the tribe, and special collection of humans, I think we're all kind of a little bit both in shock, but equally, like anything, I feel there's a response that is happening that itself is quite beautiful, right?

Even in the face. If we look at what even I was doing with people yesterday, one-on-one, bringing what we could say is their version of evil, albeit perhaps in a container that is better intended. People are trying to live good lives, trying to do the right thing. And perhaps through their own subconscious oblivion, they're self-sabotaging or maybe saying hurtful things, but it's not malintent, right? But then if you look at that individualistically, and then you take that collectively, it feels like, wow, we, big W, humanity, are doing shadow work right now.

And this is that cancer tumor that was over there in the corner, apparently Washington, D.C. And it's coming to the surface. We need some serious chemo yeah and that's that's it we're planting seeds literally and figuratively we're getting our hands in the dirt literally and figuratively right we're weeding our own gardens yeah uh literally and figuratively and i think that's such a it's a palpable thing that i gravitate towards and at the same time there has been a large,

what appears to be a large group of people that still have blinders on. That are still like, hey, that was one thing. Now we got to worry about Ukraine. Forget this other shit. And it's like, do we now? Do we just pass that,

sweep that under the rug? Yeah. So with that, and I do want to talk about, I want to dive in if we can. Sure. You might have to bill me on Venmo, but I want a free lesson here. It's going to be under 600 bucks, otherwise we have to report it.

Exactly, or 800,000 IRS soldiers are going to show up at your fucking house well-armed. Yeah, you went through, and my brother Godsey, I'm sure, would have no problem talking about this, but I'm not going to dive into his story. His story paralleled a lot with my story, and it was very illuminating. And so I'd love to dive into that because I think I can link the conversation we had yesterday with some of my still lingering fears around the world itself that we dove into right from the jump. Yeah, yeah.

Can we go there? Of course. Whatever you want, my friend. I'm here for you. So I didn't develop a stutter like godsey was very open about it yeah but obviously developed quite a bit from my childhood yeah you know so um some of the parallels without diving into history i just forget parallels personal path um my parents fought a lot they would get like you know like two rams butting heads screaming in each other's face fucking plates flying window you know telephone flying through the through the door from a very young age and it felt like i had to walk on eggshells

quite a bit because i knew they were taking time bombs they were the taking time bombs and i really felt like just a real sense of unease. Yeah. And I didn't feel safe. For sure. I didn't feel safe from a young age. Yeah. And you cleverly and fucking hilariously pointed out,

after you were talking with Godsey, you're like, yeah, look at Kyle. A man that size with martial arts and guns background, he feels safe. And I was like, fuck, dude. Fucking just expose him naked standing there, you know? Yeah. And so there is so much truth in that. And I appreciate your humor and your directness.

Cause it fucking, it's, it sings right to me. Good. But looking at that and we can keep going further into that or, you know? Yeah. No,

I mean, look, you're, you're such a sweetheart. We sadly haven't spent as much time together as I'd like, and maybe we can change that moving forward. But yeah, I think one of the big compliments I certainly got from a lot of people yesterday is one, my precision,

but then two, the humor and the levity that I'm able to bring around a subject that could be like a real owie for people. You know, it's like certainly the people I spoke to, the woman with her issue and what she was sharing, it's a pretty dramatic scenario, right? And yet to be able to disarm that. So equally when I pointed out to you with love, but also like I can see that.

And so I'm glad you're bringing it to the forefront. Yeah, I mean, a kid, regardless of aptitude, intelligence, or now size as you as a man, like your internal experience being in an environment like that, that is hostile, mercurial, and unpredictable is going to leave a kid in a state of terror, just period. It doesn't matter, right? So some of the ways that you've adapted, obviously, is as you said, like the martial arts, the fighting, like the size, the weights, the guns, the methods of protection, right, we could say. So there's different ways that we can arm ourselves. And it's totally fine. You know, like there's a lot of people out there. I mean,

like Bruce Lee, for example, probably like weighs literally half than you, but yeah, obviously knew what he was doing. But I would assert that it was more a pursuit out of perhaps passion, curiosity, commitment, discipline. Whereas what we want to look at is the how somebody's garnering protection, right? So what would you say, where did you start that journey for yourself of learning to protect yourself?

And it may even have been in that house, right? Because it might've looked like, I can't fucking do a roundhouse kick, but I can hide in my closet as a kid. The home, I just shut down. I would go as far inside as I possibly could. You ever see the movie, Get Out? When she hits him with like this fucking hypnosis

and he goes like he's falling through a black portal and the screen gets smaller and smaller of his vision. Oh no, I haven't. That reminds me of two things. One, ketamine. And two, what I would do when shit hit the fan. I would just fucking slide as many layers inward as I could. Yeah.

In solitude. Got it. You know, like I'm not here. I'm a rock, I'm a rock, I'm a rock, that kind of shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And from what age do you remember, like approximately? I know it was earlier because I have, you know, not great memories from when I was pretty young in older houses,

like when I was two or three. Yeah. But consistently that was my mode by five or six. Yeah. And in particular, we moved back to the Bay Area from Oregon. Actually, it might have been in a different part of the Bay, but we moved to a house in Sunnyvale that I remember very well from that point on, which was six years old.

And yeah, in that house, it was very much just tunnels, a tiny condominium. Interestingly enough, like just walking, like if I walked too heavy, you know, that was an issue, not throwing fucking phones through the wall was a noise complaint, you know, but like how heavy I walked, little things like that. And you talk about the things we call in to match, like an abusive boyfriend or something like that. I remember right around that age, six and seven, I started either having to run from bullies or turn around and fight them physically at that age.

That's when I started fighting. At school, yeah. Yeah, at school school on the way home school right that kind of thing and that lasted that lasted all the way up until high school-ish a little bit college yeah yeah so amazing and did you have siblings I have one sister who was a year younger and what was her experience like what did you feel the need to protect her did she get exposed or yeah she was exposed to it um jealously i felt like i got more of the the brunt of the blow than her yeah um but i still you know i'm so was so connected to her and still am that when i'd see you know her

it's okay yeah i get it i get it it get it. For a little boy, that's a big responsibility. Yeah. Yeah. What came to mind as you were thinking about that? Just seeing her cry at dinner. Yeah. And this is around the same age, six, seven and on for a few years. Yeah. So you'd be at dinner and she's just like, your sister's just crying. And what's your experience?

Wanting to help her, but also retreating. Yeah. So what would that give you as an experience? How would you feel as that little boy? Helpless. Yeah. Totally powerless, right? Yeah.

So that's a big component of your makeup is that feeling of hopelessness. Same as like coming home. I mean, you obviously learned to protect yourself. Where else have you felt that feeling of hopelessness? College, I felt it in relationship. My first long-term relationship. Okay.

Yeah. And how so? What did that um it felt like the more i was myself meaning drunk and obnoxious yeah the less that was received got it and um i identified with like my true self is when i'm happy and drunk and fucking wiling and being crazy yeah um and that would obviously push her away yeah so it just felt like i would not i wasn't going to be loved right that's how it felt now why would you say the drunk like that was more yourself like how did you categorize that as more you i i had trouble really being in my own

skin you know so i was a class clown i wanted center of attention. When I was away from home, it kind of reversed. Okay. And didn't mind talking shit to a teacher's face or to a principal, even if it got me kicked out of the class. It was dead silent at home. Total revolt in school.

And yeah, I'm not sure where to keep going with that the how long did that relationship go six and a half years oh so it's quite long and then how would that look like what would be the energy you're receiving that was like unacceptable just uh retreat you know didn't want to return calls those kind of things okay i was also on quite a few bad drugs at that point. ASU, number one party school in the nation. Coke, ecstasy, playing football, whatever the fuck I wanted, that thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And bad pharmaceuticals too.

So it was a real yo-yo of neurochemistry and everything that I've learned about now, lack of sleep, all that stuff. Right, yeah. The hopelessness, as it shows up and can show up in the past few years is in looking at the world at large and seeing where do we fucking go from here yeah how come i'm the only one seeing this and maybe peter and fucking charles eisenstein and a few other great thinkers that i admire yeah but the masses don't want to look at it and can't see it.

Yeah, no, absolutely. No, this is beautiful. And it really ties into that whole, the I'm not safe is one of the contexts for sure that you live in. But I'd say for you, now that I know a few more details about your childhood, which I really appreciate you sharing, is it's a little bigger for you. It's a little like the I'm not safe is very subjective, personalized. And we can see that little boy walking around on eggshells, even based on the fact that you're making too much noise, like similar to Eric, right? Like just like he's so petrified

to even wake up his dad for fear of the ramifications of getting disciplined or hit or whatever, right? Same for you. Yours is a notch above, right? So you're sitting at the dining table, your sister's crying. So now it's not just you. Do you see the difference, right?

Because it's one thing for Kyle to feel not safe, which I get and being hit and the madness of whatever's going on between your folks. But your sister's life's in jeopardy. That's how it comes across to that boy, right? They're feeling hopeless. So then how would you relate to that environment for not just you, but for the two of you?

I mean, I think it was just pure chaos. There was no sense of equanimity. Yeah. The girlfriend I had in college for six and a half years, that was the first time I had really witnessed what I thought was like a fully functioning nuclear family. Some stability. Yeah.

Yeah. It was mind-blowing. I mean, it was a true gift to see that this is how it can work. Yeah, that's beautiful. You got to learn the language of some sort of normalcy, some calm, some kindness, some love, right? Which is amazing. And I think for people listening to this,

I really want them to understand. We talked about that step inside the circle, I think once before, maybe you've heard me talk about it. It's a video online where this woman goes into incarceration facilities and asks a series of questions like were you raised by a single parent if the answer is yes to any question this circle of these badass

inmates they all have to take a step and you can get the theme right so where either of your parents drug addicts step inside and just this consistent step which you start to at the end just realize they never even knew what love was. Like they were never taught that language. And so it's no coincidence that they end up, quote unquote, becoming criminals because that's the language they learned, right? Now, thank God, you just got the biggest heart and the sweetest kid and the most loving man. But in an environment that was incredibly toxic you had to

learn to survive but you've also learned how to relate to life right so there's your personal for sure that you don't feel safe but what was your relationship to life would you say because it includes your sister and i would say by extension just good again knowing you you've sort of you've expressed that energy but now for others right but you care about not the whole world but like but there's a semblance of that right yeah so that kid growing up in that environment being bullied on the way home from school what is he learning about the world it's fucking dangerous yeah yeah yeah so that's what came to me is that you live in a world because everybody lives in their own world but for you you live in a world that you think is dangerous and now it's being exacerbated of course by what's going

on the last two or three years right 100 yeah so hundred percent. Yeah. So let's just presence that. What's it like for you from age three, four, five to how old are you now? 40. Yeah. 35 years, you've been living in a world that to you is dangerous. And you've armed yourself accordingly, which we could say is smart.

Like you've coped, right? Through the fighting, through the drugs, pharma or otherwise, through the guns, through the fighting through the drugs farmer or otherwise through the the guns through the size but your whole relationship to life is the world is dangerous now just let that sink in what's that like to walk around in a world that wherever you go it's dangerous there's no peace in it ever Ever. You're in a constant war zone. Now just get that.

Your whole nervous system is, you are in a constant war zone. Now it's become normalized for you, but as you present that, that is far from normal. Where else does that show up it doesn't show up in my relationship now thankfully

because of plant medicines and our work together together for 10 plus years yeah I feel like it's it's separate and that's almost the balancing point of if i was to say we're in total polarity what i see in the external world is is counterbalanced by my friendships my relationships yeah the job that i get to do and the things they get to learn and the people i get yeah you know like that's that's what evens it out.

If it was even Stevens. For sure. And I can tell you, if you didn't have that, you wouldn't be here. Because you would literally be on a battlefield. Or you'd be on the streets. Or you'd be a terrorist. Right? So it's by courtesy of the destiny of who you are with the size of heart and love you have.

That you've manifested a point of heart and love you have, that you've manifested a point of stability. Do you understand? So if someone lives in the world, the world of their own, that the world is dangerous, that has to become manifest, right? Meaning if somebody thinks that who they are is a piece of shit, either they're going to compensate for it and become like this perfectionist people pleaser as a coping mechanism, or they're going to go right into it and they'll be on the streets doing meth. So because you have that, you aren't out there in a world literally that is a world of danger, like you're on the front lines and wherever, right? Do you see that? Yeah.

But I want you to understand systematically, in terms of your central nervous system, it's still where you live. Correct. That's why I wanted to bring it up because my intention coming into this week as I really thought of it, treating the Fit for Service Summit as a ceremony

and I get to participate in it as I also get to coach in it, right? I'm always learning from these experiences. When we did the circling exercise, I realized that I still don't have peace. And it just, you know, a little blip. I'm like, oh yeah, I don't feel that. I feel a sense of unease constantly if I pay attention to it.

Yeah, like Eric said, it's always there. Even though he may not be quote-unquote stuttering, it's always there. Even though he may not be quote-unquote stuttering, it's always there. What is always there? The fear, the anticipation, the intrepidation of that like going to happen, the trepidation. So for you, likewise, you've got the beautiful family, you've got the beautiful tribe,

you've done the plant medicines, you've got a lot of knowledge, but the nervous system is still relating to life as though it's fucking dangerous out there. So if that's your relation to life, what's your consistent theme in the way that you feel, the way that you act, the way that you behave? The theme doesn't come to mind,

but the actions that come to mind are i'm in a state of doing preparing um taking action towards the things that help me sleep at night yeah and what are those actions just it might be going to the sheepdog with tim kennedy and learning how to do firearms training it might yeah um our permaculture specialist teaching us how to grow our own food and have food sovereignty all that going on so if we were to categorize that under one label one way of being, what are you doing? learning those things is in order to what? prepare for a shit show

and in preparation for a shit show you could say that you're doing what for yourself and your family? Safeguarding. Yeah. Protecting. Right. So now think about it

in terms of like you said, the things to help you sleep. If somebody is in a mode, their whole system, of whatever I have to do, the behaviors are in order to protect myself. mode, their whole system, of that whatever I have to do, the behaviors are in order to protect myself. So if I have to protect myself, is that a state of ease or dis-ease?

Dis-ease. Yeah. Chronic. Chronic. Chronic dis-ease, right? But that experience of having to protect oneself is only a byproduct of the fact that the way you relate to life is that you're not safe and by extension for you much bigger the world is dangerous like i'm not safe that's fucking clear but i can kind of handle myself but my sister's not safe and then other people i know who i care about aren't safe so now you're charged with this responsibility that in a world

that is dangerous, it's up to Kyle to make sure everyone's okay. Then slap you on the button. You know, have a nice sleep. Rest well, darling. Right? You sort of

see the contradiction there. Yeah. So now now based on what you see me already do with other people what's what's the predominant lie that you're living in like we get the world of it like anyone listening to this and we could sort of hang out there more and there'd be more tears and but like you're smart enough you've done enough work we don't need to keep living in the world of like fucking everything is dangerous. Like you've lived there for 30 something years, right? So if that's your world, we see the reactions, we see the response, we see the preparation, we see the need to protect. It's literally unavoidable for you to not feel the need to protect because the way you relate to life is that it's dangerous do you see that like it's inextricably connected it's an extension of that reality but the cost to you

of constantly having to protect how else like you've learned to manage it you do well you've got good people around you but what are some of the costs to you of living in a world where you constantly have to protect? Well, I mean, physiologically, it's visceral. Like I just feel a tightness and a constriction around my midsection, you know, or it's like, sometimes it's in the jaw, but most of the time it's like, I can't have a deep breath or it takes me running lifting weights or fucking blowing my lungs open get there yeah um like literally exercising the demons to then yeah rest calmly yeah um yoga for an hour and a half just so i can meditate for 20 minutes you know like just so i can sit yeah yeah yeah and thank god you're built like an ox because otherwise that manifests as like a lot of

problems right sickness and disease i've had tinkering for sure, you know, and lots of injuries to not listening to that. So yeah, I built a decent relationship there listening to my body, but the deeper listening I was really unaware of until yesterday. Yeah. I was like, God damn it, dude. I was honestly, I was so touched. I mean, you're obviously tall and huge, but I could see that fucking arm. That's me. I was like, yep, there it is.

I love that. And it touched the ceiling of my gut. Yeah, and I just love the vulnerability and that just speaks volumes about you as such a sweetheart, right? And we're going to reinstate that way of being for you. So what is the predominant lie that you're living in? The world's dangerous. Yeah.

Now why is that a lie? Well, if I look at my life past childhood, it has not been dangerous unless I decided to make it so in the UFC or something like that. And even that relatively not dangerous on a life or death standpoint. And certainly not in the way that you're relating to it, right? Like painful, you know, injurious maybe, but like not necessarily dangerous. I mean, you know, there's a level of threat there, but yeah. So again, at your ripe old age, you probably still have another hopefully 50, 60 years. And if I was to tell you that even everything that's transpiring

and the sadness that's out there, like, you know, Tim and the work he does and the sex trafficking that's going on and kids are being brutally ripped apart for organs and like this stuff is happening, right? Like we can't just turn a blind eye. There's just a lot of tragedy out there that's horrific. But if your life, your family, your community, nothing substantial happens for the remaining 60 years of your life,

yet you lived as though it was going to be just that next moment could you see the difference between another 60 years of the world is dangerous constantly the perpetual need to protect with all of the different behaviors you have the way that you have to mitigate that with meditation running to try and dissipate the tension in your body to do that for 60 years? Or what I just propose is that nothing other than, you know, stubbing a toe on a table once in a while or cutting yourself shaving or, you know, someone breaks up, but they're okay. And, you know, no real danger ever happens. What would that life be like?

It'd be a lot better. It would be peaceful, even from a Bruce Lee standpoint. You know, you don't engage standpoint. You don't engage emotional. You don't fight in anger. If you come from a state of peace, your awareness is expanded and you're actually better at protecting yourself. From an optimization standpoint to fighting, it's better if I'm coming from a place of peace.

And now, so beautiful. So you can see those, it's like literally, I talk about this sort of linear progression of someone's life, right? So we could see Kyle here, little boy, super scared, fucking sisters crying at the table, feels powerless, gets to a point where he's seven or eight, kind of fights off some kids, maybe gets beaten up by others. But he's slowly learning this linear trajection of self-protection

that incorporates others because of your beautiful sister that you wanted to protect too, right? And so now you understand permaculture. Protection, but a little more holistic. Then you know how to handle every fucking kind of gun and you could kick the shit out of me in five seconds. It's like you've learned these skills but it's on a linear trajectory but what i'm talking about is this vertical ascension

where you literally live at a different frequency so that 60 years of living in fight or flight mitigating it managing it as best as you can probably later in life getting all sorts of sicknesses because of your system just can't sustain it. Or you go to a different frequency where that next future 60 years, there's the absence of any danger. That's an entirely different experience, right? So now here's the irony. The thing that you are, like you witnessed with me working with other people what's the real danger to you the real danger is and continuing to perpetuate the lie yeah isn't that crazy so when you do understand because you're so smart your brain maybe until this moment has thought the danger is out there

but the real danger to you as a being is the thought that the world is dangerous is that nuts that is the only literal threat that's impacting your life is that you have it it's not like a belief it is the way it is for you it's so ingrained and we can have all the compassion for that little kid that developed the evidence to prove that you live in my fucking house it's fucking dangerous and then that became part of the way that you relate to life it's not like a thought or a superstition of like no i think the world's dangerous but then you get on with it no no the world is dangerous but the real danger to you your your health, your wealth, your freedom, your peace, is your own thought. The way that you are, that the world is, which is maybe a weird way of saying it,

but the way that you are, that the world is, is that the world is dangerous. That is the most dangerous thing in your entire life. Now just get that. The only thing that is threatening your life, the thing that hurts you the most, is your own relationship to life. Did you see that? Well, I got a glimpse of it yesterday.

But obviously there was more to it. And so I wanted to bring it up here for a freebie, a free coaching session. And as I tend to do, expose myself on this podcast. Yeah, which is beautiful. Did you get what I'm saying? It's because it's written into the software. You talked about the hardware, software.

It's not something I play with intellectually. It's something that I downloaded and encoded into the software of the operating system from a young age. That's what I'm saying. It's systematic and this is why it's going to take a little bit to detangle from this. But what I want you to get is, so I'm going to give you an example that will help maybe to sort of show you

what I'm pointing out. I was speaking at an event in Minnesota. The driver picked me up and he was very flattering. He's like, I love your podcast. You've really helped. And he said, can I ask you a question? And I was like, sure. And he says, you know,

I've really been struggling with something for my entire life since i was a kid and like i said okay what's that he said well i'm a claustrophobic and so i struggle to be around people i go to a an event and i feel like i need to like get out of there and i'm always like worried about where can where's my exit and stuff like and i totally could have compassion i got it i said okay well we've just met but i'm gonna guess at some point as a kid like you were put in a position where you really felt that he's like yeah yeah i was probably about fifth sixth grade and my buddies locked me in a fridge an old fridge but like a fridge right like and he's a kid like you know and he's he'd fucking panic right like terror and I said wow that must have been so scary he's like yeah I still have

nightmares and I said okay and how you were like how old he said well like 11 or something like that and I said and how old you now and he's like I don't know 43 and I'm like okay so for 38 years you've had this experience you've been to he said i've done therapy hypnotherapy i said yeah so i get it and um i said so there's one thing you said that i just really want you to revisit and he's like what that what's that i said it's kind of the first thing you said which is i'm a claustrophobic and i said so like what does that mean like like you are a claustrophobic like he's well yeah it's like a diagnosis like that mean? Like, you are a claustrophobic. Like, and he's, well, yeah, it's like a diagnosis. Like, that's what I struggle, all the symptoms I have. I'm like, oh, okay, interesting.

So, like, were you always that way? Or like, were you born a claustrophobic? Like, was that like... Like when people say I'm Christian, I'm like, oh, okay, interesting. Like, okay. Anyway, that's a whole other topic. That's a rabbit hole for sure. Yeah.

And I said, did it kind of start from that moment in the fridge? He's like, well, probably from that. I'm like, okay, so there was an event that was like, in your case, like 38 years ago or 31 years ago, whatever it is. And now you've declared yourself from that moment

as that's who you are. And he's like starting to notice like, you know what i'm saying i'm like so so scary moment terrifying like you're stark black can't breathe much and like that's fucking horrible but you got out and he's like yeah it's probably shorter than i thought but when you're in it like i was like yeah i get an earthquake yeah it's like it's scary and um and i said so is it true that you're actually claustrophobic or did you have a moment where you felt claustrophobic

that was a tight space? So now he's starting to see, okay, well, that's it. And then he started to see, okay, well, yeah. And I said, do you always feel it or do you sometimes you're okay in certain situations? He's like, no, sometimes I'm okay. So I'm like, okay, so first of all, it's not consistent. So the truth is always consistent. So if so first of all it's not consistent so you know the truth is always consistent so if it varies then it's not true is that oh okay i said

you know what can i tell you something really funny i said he's like yeah i said the thing that creates the most claustrophobic thing that is going on in your life is the thought, I'm a claustrophobic. It's like, that's such a confining thought. And he really got it. He's like, holy shit, the claustrophobia I experience is because of the thought that I'm a claustrophobic. If I take a glass of water, the water takes on the shape of the glass. If I pour that into a vase, it's now a vase of water or a bowl of water. But the water will take on the form based on what it's contained in. So I said, who you are is boundless, timeless, but you live within the context called I'm a claustrophobic

and therefore you have to experience claustrophobia. That make sense? it's claustrophobia that makes sense so kyle pure love free being powerful limitless but lives in what container i'm a protector i'm aware that's what you do because of the container which is the world is dangerous. Yeah. So if you live inside the world is dangerous, you have zero choice, zero choice, but to act in accordance with that reality. The warrior, the protector,

go and learn everything about guns, fighting. Do you see? It's all commensurate with the world is dangerous. So it begs the question, can you categorically tell me as a truth, meaning it has to be consistent across all forms, yes or no, that the world is dangerous? No, it is not. No, Give me at least three pieces of evidence,

even if it's just this last few days, that shows you the world is not dangerous. Yeah. I mean, you look at our event for the last few days. Look at my entire relationship with my wife and our two incredible kids. There's no danger in any of that. Only just opening and opening.

Challenging, but not dangerous by any means. Just pure love. Yeah. We're just inundated and surrounded by people who all they want to do is love. And yet, over there, walking around, amongst literal, like present love, kindness, compassion, care, evolution, transformation,

is a guy who's in his own world called the world is dangerous. Isn't that crazy? I thought you were smart. Yeah. It's big, though. Really big. Because I'm not safe, I get, and there's a component of that, but yours is like 10x that.

Which also explains all of your aptitudes and your skills that you've developed in that world. So is it true that the world is dangerous? No, it's not true. And there's whatever's going on. Yeah. Right? And that too. Yeah, it does exist. There whatever's going on. Yeah. Right? And that too. Yeah, it does exist.

There's stuff going on, but we don't know what the next 60 something years of your life looks like. You may never encounter danger in the way that you are relating to life. You know, someone cuts you off in traffic, was close, almost had an accident. Was that dangerous? Well, it could have been, wasn't. You know, somebody maybe threatened you at a restaurant or a bar. They've had one too many cocktails. They don't like the way you look or they just, whatever.

They're just trying to pick a fight. But because of who you are, they back down. Nothing really happened. There may be the sort of the potential for something that never actualizes. Yet you live in perpetual state, or did hopefully, that, yeah, but you've got to look out because the world is dangerous. It's like an is. See, words are so powerful and people don't understand this.

People think the way that they speak, and this is going to be huge for you. People think the way they speak is descriptive. You think you're describing the world. But guess what you're doing? Words are creative. You get that? Yeah buddy that's that's deep see you had it until i just said what i just said you thought you were describing the world what have you been doing creating the world creating my world which is or was the world was dangerous and you were perpetually creating it that way isn't that nuts and therefore you had to you had to with all the compassion in the world

based on how you were brought up you had no choice but to react to the world that you unknowingly were perpetually creating. How would Kyle feel if whatever's transpiring, you know, we could argue that a lot of people are waking up and we're oblivious. And for sure, there's some souls that are using this as a time to check out, right? They don't have the bandwidth to stay here. They succumb, they comply, whatever's happening. But within two, two three five years there's this sort of revelation the sort of 60s but more evolved kind of free love and

the overturning of the oligarchs and people are like free and living off the land and there's this new sense of community. But that couldn't have happened if it weren't for the travesties of these last few years. But that's going to happen. That's the future we're headed towards. How does Kyle feel? Joyous and at ease. I want that future.

That's a fuck yeah future. Right. But that fuck yeah future can't exist. That's a fuck yeah future. Right. But that fuck yeah future can't exist. Here's the irony. I know you're such a stand for that world. But you can't access it because you were perpetually creating that the world is dangerous. So this will be hard for you to hear. But all the people you see out there as the quote-unquote bad guys creating the tyranny,

creating the abuse and the hostility, the world you created for yourself is no different. Yeah, it was my own prison. But energetically, there's a contribution to the whole. So where's the tyranny? That's the part, as I said, that's hard to hear. Because I know your love. But what you've been up to is contributing to tyranny.

Which for your brain is like, whoa like i'm a stand for the opposite but energetically you're not i've wondered that you know and then looking into others and seeing them in yourself or parts work any of these other things you know and and uh it's been very hard to relate to anyone i would put on that list you list of people that are causing the fuckery. And as much as I try, even with medicines or in meditation, it's been hard to relate until the way you just worded it. And I was like, that is how I sign off on what's happening. Yeah.

Yeah. Right? So here you are, a stand for love, kindness, community, like respect, reverence of the feminine, like mother life guy, like really, that's who I see you to be. But it's all shackled, waiting, waiting until the world is safe.

But it can't be because the way you relate to life was, is that it's dangerous. So it never will be in that context. Never. You would have gone to the grave for the next 60 years, aside from hopefully this conversation, as a guy who was a stand, who people loved, who knew everything about every fucking type of gun, knife and whatever,

and chokehold, but never found peace because he thought the world was dangerous, not realizing the world was in him. That's pretty big. How does that hit you? Softening. Yeah. Yeah, I just feel the...

Maybe the breath that you couldn't normally access. Yeah. I feel just a softening and an opening inside. This is how powerful you are. That kid at the table, his sister was crying. I get, I get the powerlessness of that. You're so powerful.

You are creating your world. And life, universe will reflect that. Because see, if you really get that this world of 8 billion people, whatever it is, if everybody experienced what you just feel right now as a softening, where's the tyranny out there? Isn't any? Yeah.

So now you can be responsible, not that you're out there mutilating or sex trafficking children or lying about drugs or whatever, but your energy, no different, was. That's a big pill to swallow. It's one I know you can handle. But if you want to see how powerful you are, your energy was contributing to the tyranny that you think you're fighting.

That's a powerful thing to see. Right? No, you don't want to be that guy. Right? No. So what's the possibility for carl now the possibility is living in peace totally right and seeing a different world co-creating a different world yeah

for as powerful as you are my friend friend, like on every level, physically, emotionally, mentally, spiritually, you have a gift to help usher, give birth to a world that is love. Because that's what you see. Were you present for the birth of your kids? Oh yeah, caught them both. Yeah. Was it easy? Was it pretty?

Was it elegant? Was it like... It was a lot like hunting. It was fucking all the things. Yeah. All of it at once. But what was the container that you held for your wife and the kid that was arriving? Pure love.

Pure love and attention and care. So what if, you know, the tearing of the perineum and the blood and the fucking passing out and all the stuff that can happen in that beautiful container is what we're witnessing en masse. It's messy. Yeah. Messy.

It's ugly. It's painful. Fucking screaming everywhere. Scared. Don't know what the fuck's going to happen next. Is this going to go on forever? Is she going to be okay? Right?

But it's a birth. And during a birth, there's a lot of pain. But you, already of practice, holding a container of love, even in the presence of literal mess, muck, shit, pain, didn't faze you because there's this commitment to what's on the other side, which is new life. That's what we're here for.

There's some joke. That's a different human,'t it yeah meanwhile you fucking garnered some great skills that's awesome you know in the event of but like you fucking walk around like a peaceful warrior yeah warrior in the garden you know yeah shit hits the fan oh yeah i got that skill set but i don't think about it because I probably never have to use it because I'm committed to a world of love world is beautiful world is kind

the world is gracious I'd take three of those over the world is dangerous yeah so if Kyle adopts the relationship to life that the world is beautiful what's that feel like it feels pretty fucking good yeah i felt that about aspects of it you know that nature is beautiful and the witnessing of that is is a a god not a little

touch yeah but within that what if you went to nature that isn't to the untrained eye beautiful give me one example nature is metal you know the account on instagram that rogan's always posting oh yeah nature is metal i don't know if you're familiar with that i'll fucking link to it um yeah it's just you know badass shit like a woman getting mauled by a tiger ripped out of her car or, you know, a chimpanzee escapes and rips the zookeeper's arm off, just anything, you know. Even, yeah, just, you know, the animals, herbivore animals eating the young of other competitive animals

that compete for the grassland. Yeah, yeah. And the more hardcore and yet you can contain that in the perspective your translation of it's still beauty because that's just what happens yeah

well you think like the evolution of humanity is going to just be like fucking rainbows and unicorns it doesn't track that way backwards so my guess is you know as the wheel keeps spinning that it yeah yeah yeah but it's like the laws of averages right like if there's eight billion people and five six billion of them are still in their dark their version of the world is dangerous you know i could assert without putting you on the spot you're contributing to the darkness more than most people

because their energy is more about them yours is collective they're like oh i'm not safe i'm an idiot i'm bad like we saw yesterday like i'm not going to be okay and there's that subjective fear but you were really embodying collective fear so in terms of the level of contribution to the collective dog, you kind of did a pretty shitty job or a good job

pretty funny right you would assert completely the opposite you'd actually fight someone. Yeah. Oh, fuck you. I'll put the shit out of you. Yeah, I'm all for love. I'll fucking break your arm.

It's like, oh, wow, that's so loving. I could see that you're very loving as I can barely breathe in a choke lock. Right, it's kind of funny, right? You start to see, holy shit, like am I really a stand for love or am I perpetuating danger yeah crazy that is crazy yeah yeah i could i had a sense of the collective you know as i was driving

here thinking about what we're going to podcast and i already knew i was going to bring up uh gazi and the work you were doing yesterday but the and how that ties to the world but the the collective piece i hadn't understood you know my own contribution to it yeah and um why that was so important was because my my view of it was collective yeah not just personal exactly and that's why you look at someone like eric what he was going through, he was worried about him relative to society. It's how most people walk around. They're just really in their own world. But you're so powerful. And this is like the beauty of opposites. Now we get to transmute that into like the fight for good, not as a fight, but the stand for love and all the things that you really would assert you are for,

but now your system can align with it. Like you can relate to life when you walk out of this room. Life is fucking beautiful. That's how I live. I was at a workshop once and this guy came up and he was super market-y and sales-y. I was with this girl who had brought me to this thing. So he's probably trying to enroll me

in whatever fucking thing they're trying to sell. I could feel it in a second. Hey, wow, good to see you. He's like, Time share in Costa Rica. Exactly. That I might have fallen for. So he's like, yeah, so who are you?

And I just said to him, I'm the luckiest man in the world. And it just stopped him, you know, because he didn't know what to say to that. It's not like part of his script of what someone says and then he goes to his next line. But it also showed me something

that I was able to generate on the spot because words are creative, not descriptive. And I've kind of stuck by that ever since because I created it. But where's my evidence? I mean, I could point to things. It's not a truth, but it's the stand. It's the container that I'm choosing to live within. So even in the face of the blood and the pain and the screaming of your wife as this beautiful baby is coming through, who you is love so what if in the face of whatever we're still going to see that unfolds the tyranny the lies the wars the just the deception the corruption like yeah we could go oh they're fucking idiots and but what energy you're adopting at that moment tyranny disrespect

it's not to say you condone it. It's not to say that these are people you want to come to Thanksgiving, you know, but it's like, it's a dying breed. The expression fear will break its own heart. That's what's happening. They're all breaking their own hearts right now and they're just desperate.

They're scared children. Yeah. And that actually warrants a bit of compassion. Yeah. Right? Yeah, big time. Do you kids behave impeccably all the time? Fuck no.

No. I love getting new parents around that have the glow. What's it like? It's all of it. It's not any one thing. It's fucking awesome and it's all of it. It's fucking everything in between. It's all of it.

Yeah, and if you were to give one title to all of that, who are you in the face of all of that? Love. Yeah. So you have the microcosm, I'm not going to say perfected, but certainly to a certain degree of mastery, which is that you hold a container of love for all of it.

Now we take that, apply it to the macro. Not only is the world not dangerous, the world is love. Because that's who I am to it. Then see what shows up. Probably won't need an assault rifle. I got such a good one. I got a six and a half Creedmoor 18 inch. It's so good. God, I love it. It's like driving a Bentley. It's so nice. You can clean it and admire it.

Yeah. That's a different world, isn't it? Yeah. It's definitely a different Kyle. Yeah, brother. How do you feel? I feel peace for the first time in a long time. I talked about that opening and then we kept talking

and it slowly just expanded and I feel warm in my hands and my face and like blood and energy is flowing through my periphery. Yeah. Not constricted. That's pretty cool, isn't it? It's fucking wild. I got the microdose of it yesterday. Now we're getting you.

Give me some more of that. A couple more cups. Please, can I have some more? Yeah. Yeah, no, we're getting you. Give me some more of that. A couple more cups. Please, sir, can I have some more? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, dude, you're just such a pleasure to be with, you know, and I get it. I get why that little boy

that's still been running through your veins, why he's there and we love him, but we don't let him run your life. It's a part of you that is not you that felt the world was dangerous. Really get that. It's a part of you that's not you that thought the world was dangerous. The real you is so big, it's the container to even allow that little kid who's scared, just like you will for your kids, they'll get scared.

Dad's like, don't worry about it, I got you. Yeah. Now you get to do that for your little part that is living in a lie. Understandable, but it's a lie. You know, kids believe in the Easter Bunny and fucking Santa and your little boy thought the world was dangerous. It's kind of adorable. Right?

Yeah. Is the world dangerous? No. No. It is what it is and we'll see what unfolds. Yeah. But who you are and who I am is love. So be that. That's beautiful brother thank you thank you thank you thank you that

brings us right to the fucking hour mark i know you got another podcast with op coming up yeah you're for pete uh i got a talk later today so i'm gonna hit the land and enjoy nature's beauty and love. Yeah. Go and see because you are the world that you see. So go and not see the world, but create it based on the way that you're looking at it. I love that. I did an exercise once in this realm because I, like all of us, have those different constraints that I help people unfold.

I had to work through them myself. And mine wasn't perhaps to the extent of the whole world is dangerous, but I thought maybe I was in danger periodically depending on where. And I walked around one day and I was like, I walked around in the world of everybody loves me. And the shit that unfolded that day... That's true though, Peter. Everyone does love you.

That's because I fucking created it. You're awesome, buddy. When I was young and I was isolated and I was orphaned and I thought I was by myself, that was not how the world occurred to me. But thank you. So was it the way that it was or did I create that and subsequently that's

what showed up? Do you see? So if who Kyle is to the world is the world is love, we could probably guess what's going to show up. Might not be tomorrow. You'll get glimpses today. Might not be in a week, the collective. But you keep standing

there. You're a fucking force of nature. I don't like the world's chances against that try and be dangerous right words are creative not descriptive I love that

thank you brother where can people find you talk about your mastermind are you still taking people in for that online? Yeah. The one we're in right now will come to an end, I think, beginning of April. So we'll probably start another one in May.

It's a three-month container, which is just tears to the eyes, powerful, witnessing me do this, but en masse in a group with many people, different stories. So everyone can vicariously relate um and we meet every two weeks it's sort of a morning session theory afternoon coaching but also now i've got something called the freedom community so some people can't access

the mastermind it might be a little bit out of the budget or something but the freedom community is just a container again where i put exclusive content super affordable per month so same kind of feel of a commitment that's committed to evolving and being free hence the freedom community and then just Instagram Peter Crone people can find me there I love it thank you so much brother it's been

an honor and a pleasure getting to know you and getting to hang with you more and yeah we will remedy the time in between and get that gap shorter and shorter yeah I like that commitment especially now you know if you're not too busy

trying to fucking protect everyone because the world is dangerous it's difficult to get a hold of that guy I don't know he's out there

covered in fucking boot polish or something boot polish come on I'm here come get me I love you brother thank you

love you brother thank you love you too you