Kyle Kingsbury Podcast - #295 The Abundant Flow of Life w/ Jason Pickard

Episode Date: March 22, 2023

We are graced once again with one of our all-time great guests yall! Jason Pickard is at the farm with me and we dive into some of his takeaways from the famed hunt I missed with him, Mansal, Salemi, Doc Riley and the like.  Jason also has a course he’s birthed that will lead to abundance in your life as you learn to flow with the nature of your life. He goes into much deeper detail in the episode. Tune in and enjoy!   ORGANIFI GIVEAWAY Keep those reviews coming in! Please drop a dope review and include your IG/Twitter handle and we’ll get together for some Organifi even faster moving forward.   Come see us at the ranch in Lockhart! We’re having our first ever educational gathering March 31 - April 2. Limited tickets available, so head to  Permaculture 101 w/ Gardeners of Eden and get your tickets fam!   Connect with Jason: Website: www.jasonpickard.org  Instagram: @jasonpickardofficial  Show Notes: KKP #255 Jason Pickard Spotify  Apple  Sponsors: Analemma Coherent Water the science is here to support structured water and these folks have the best and easiest way to get it for yourself anywhere you go. Go to coherent-water.com punch in code “KKP” for 10% off your wand! HVMN - Ketone IQ This is legit jet fuel for your brain. Whether you’re fat adapted or not, this will work. Get 20% off by heading to hvmn.com/kkp  discount is automatically applied at checkout.  Lucy Go to lucy.co and use codeword “KKP” at Checkout to get 20% off the best nicotine gum in the game, or check out their lozenge. Othership App For an incredible mindfulness app and experience and for KKP listeners get 2 free weeks on the app, go to http://othership.onelink.me/loJo/KKP  To Work With Kyle Kingsbury Podcast   Connect with Kyle: Fit For Service Academy App: Fit For Service Academy  Instagram: @livingwiththekingsburys   Odysee: odysee.com/@KyleKingsburypod  Youtube: Kyle Kingbury Podcast  Kyles website: www.kingsbu.com - Gardeners of Eden site    Like and subscribe to the podcast anywhere you can find podcasts. Leave a 5-star review and let me know what resonates or doesn’t.

Welcome back to the show, everybody. Today's guest is the return of my brother, Jason Picard. I've had actually both him and his actual brother, Jared Picard, on at separate times. Jared, of course, in the biodynamic farming game. And Jason is Paul Cech's longest student, protege, what would you call it, mentee, something like that. He's done a lot of cool shit in life. He was basically like the Wolf of Wall Street. I'm sure there's a lot of people that say they are that or say they were that after the movie

came out, but Jason was the real deal. He was also really unhealthy and that started on his health career. We'll link to this original podcast we did. We recapped a little bit of that on this one just. We'll link to this original podcast we did. We recapped a little bit of that on this one just to bring people up to date on who Jason is, but Jason is as qualified as it gets when it comes to finance and the archetype of abundance. And he's releasing a new course on the archetype of abundance, the abundance archetype.

And he does a deep dive on many of the principles that relate to that. And many of them, you would not even fucking think of anything to do with money, but they do. And they have to do with creating abundance in all ways. So this was one when he told me he's going to come out with this course. I was like, I got to get you on the podcast to talk about this because there's a lot of people, including myself, that want to know how to do better in that regard. And I love what Jason tracks in this. He breaks down a lot of these principles on this podcast, piece by piece. There is free stuff for you via his site. We'll link to it in the show notes. So you can get his little eight tip, print it out, throw it on your iPad, something like that, and just slowly chew through that until you've digested

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And yeah, we've been chopping it up, talking about different things and you hit me up and you've got a new program coming out. That is something I think, I thought immediately, this is something my listeners need to know about. And, and personally I want to fucking know about it. I want to take it. Right. So I want to dive into that. Let's backtrack real quick and talk about the hunt that you were on. Because I haven't had a time to break down this hunt. It was something that I was super fucking

jealous I didn't get to go on, but I was out in fit for service in Sedona when you guys hooked up with Monsole and just like all my friends, you know, you, Dr. Nathan Riley, all the boys. Talk about that experience. Salemi. Salemi, yeah, talk about that experience and what was coming up, what you were able to conjure up. Yeah, well, the most interesting thing that I learned was the influence of astrology on a hunt, right? So when we were looking at that particular date, Manso had previously had a date

about three or four weeks after we wound up going and he called me and said, my best friend's getting married. They just announced that they want me to be the best man. Can you come a couple of weeks earlier? So I'd been talking to a Vedic astrologer and the Vedic astrologer said, look, this is not actually the greatest time to do something aggressive like that. It's more about personal transformation and not so much about going out and being aggressive and hunting. And he kind of gave me that in the back of my mind. And I said, well, okay, you know,

let's just go with it anyway. It just seems to work. So we went on this hunt and we actually didn't kill anything. We tried, but it was like every little moment that we had, it was like, I had this, I had a deer right in my sight just as the light was fading.

And, you know, the guide calls me off like split second. And Nathan had three shots that just went right over a deer. And what I realized was that so much that we miss is like how to work with nature, right? So this whole idea is that there's certain times that are more conducive to do various activities. And there might be times when it's not actually best to be hunting. And there's times when actually you can go with the flow more. So I realized that it was a really big lesson for me

because we were kind of working against the grain of what was naturally flowing through the energies. But we did get that really deep personal transformation process, which was incredible. Yeah, that's part and parcel for working with Mansell. I've never thought about the astrology piece, but it part and parcel for working with Mansell. I've never thought about the astrology piece,

but it actually, it makes a lot of sense. I've been fucked up many times where it just so happened to be a full moon while we were hunting. And they're like, oh, well, they may be out eating all night and just bedded down. They might not come out at sunrise and sunset. Sure, yeah. And it just kind of throws things off just enough,

or they've got enough light that they can move around at night and just sleep all day. It's these subtle little differences that make a big difference, right? So I talk about this with the moon as well. We often, all of us really are living like it's a new moon every single day, right? So just like we have to have times of the day that we can be most productive for various activities. Maybe in the morning we take personal time. Maybe then we have a few hours where we're doing writing or whatever we're doing. Then we have our kid time. And it's really good to kind of structure this time. Maybe we have sacred time with our wife or our partner at various times. We should also be looking at on a larger scale over the entire

month, how we structure our days, right? So, you know, it's pretty obvious with a woman's cycle that they're tied to the 29 day cycle of the moon but for men we're also tied as well our testosterone levels our energy levels our ability to get good quality sleep our relationship conflicts all of these things are very correlated to the moon so if you start looking at the idea that around a new moon i'm likely to have the most amount of energy the most amount of feel-good chemicals and hormones pumping through me because it's when I was supposed to be most attractive to get a mate, right? Or the darkest outside. Yeah.

Versus the other time when I'm supposed to be more reflective and resting and going kind of into myself. So, many of us wake up each day like we think it should be the biggest meeting and the biggest workout and we're prime time all the time, but that's a great way to burn out. When we can learn to work with nature, when we can learn to work with the cycles of the moon, for that matter, we can actually have more ease and more fluidity

and kind of it's the art of sailing versus the art of rowing. And so I learned that very deeply on that hunt. Yeah, that's been a big one for me is, I mean, there's so many little, I call them God nods, you know, like whether it's a synchronicity or, I don't know if you've seen Dune or read the books, but Dune is fucking layered with it. It's one of my favorite fictions because there's so many universal capital T truths that are like the underpinnings of how consciousness works. And one of the lines in the movie is taken from the book is that life is a series of flow. And the more we come into contact with that flow,

the easier it becomes. And the more we go against that flow, the harder it is, right? And that's paraphrasing loosely, but- It's spot And the more we go against that flow, the harder it is. Right? And that's paraphrasing loosely, but. It's spot on. I mean, that's essentially, you know, my course is called the abundance archetype.

And I had to do a big deep dive into what does abundance actually mean, right? I mean, we use these words, oh, surrender, acceptance, abundance, God, spirituality, but what do these words actually mean? What do they mean to me? It was like a big part of trying to discover what this abundance archetype was all about. And when I looked into the word abundance,

the root word was unda. And unda comes from Varuna, which is the deva of water or the water spirits, the personified laws of nature in the water. And so we're 80% water, right? So abundance is really learning how to flow, how to flow within yourself and how to flow with nature and how to flow with the world around you.

And so when you get that fluidity and when you can, it's not necessarily about always being happy, about always being lucky, but being able to flow with the ups and downs of life, that is abundance. And when you can learn to flow with the ups and downs of life, that is abundance. And when you can learn to flow with nature, it can make your life that much more abundant. That's huge.

Yeah, I mean, the words you mentioned do get kind of tossed around loosely, especially in different communities and things like that. But it reminds me of one of Paul's recent podcasts, and you just got back from spending some time. If we have time, we'll dive into some of that. I did, yeah. Paul Cech. When he talks about the Imago Dei archetype, you know,

the Imago Dei from Jung, that is your, your archetypical understanding of God. That's different for everybody. Sure. Right. Like universally, you might think you're talking about the same thing, but you're clearly not right. And in my podcast with Peter Krohn, just from like my understanding of the universe, like, well, there's a story there that imprints the whole fucking thing as it turns out, right? So yeah, when you talk about things like abundance, I mean, a lot of people will think automatically, oh, that's money, that's wealth, or that's time, or that's freedom, or that's different things. But any of those words you

mentioned, right? There's a deeper root to those. And that's why I love your background, you know, in Sanskrit and these deeper meanings and where they originate from. Think about spirituality, right? Oh, I'm spiritual. Well, what the heck does that mean, right? What does that mean? Well, if you look up the word spirituality,

it comes from to breathe. It comes from the air or the wind. And so what we're really saying is it's like, it's something ephemeral, something that we can't touch. And so what we're trying to do is we're using the English language, which is an object-based language. It's really good for explaining the material world. But what we're trying to point to is something

that's not from here. When we say we're spiritual, we're saying, we're not from here, but we're trying to use words from here, right? So all of these things like God and spirituality, they're hard to describe. It's not really our fault, but the English language is not actually suited

to describe these things that are from somewhere else. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. There's a lot of nouns. I've listened to a number of people come out recently and talking about things are verbs, they're action, right? Like when Peter said, maybe the universe is loving. Try that on for size, right?

Not God is love. The universe is loving, right? Because it is an action and it's perpetual. It's always in the now, but it's always happening, right? Always changing, but always happening. It's loving. It's true. You know, and that was a big one for me.

And that's, there's a lot of, as he said too, you know, that we think when we're talking about something that our words are descriptive, but they're actually creative, right? So we think that by having a lot of, as he said too, we think when we're talking about something that our words are descriptive, but they're actually creative, right? So we think that by having a lot of nouns and we can state things as they are, but reality is that they're actually doing and becoming and they're inging the whole time.

Yeah, even love. We have one word for all kinds of love, but we know there's many kinds of love. There's the love we have with our intimate partner. There's the love we have with a child. There's the love we have with our intimate partner. There's the love we have with a child. There's the love we have with a pet, right? And love we have for a teacher. We love, we say we love our car, right?

We love certain foods. I do love my truck. Yeah, you know, love in and of itself isn't even a good descriptor for all of the different kinds of experiences and the flavors of love. You know, all of the different ways that it can be expressed, right? So words really don't do these things justice,

especially words in the English language that aren't really there to develop states and stages of consciousness and different levels of psychological development and experiences. Beautiful. Well, let's dive into abundance and I'm sure this conversation

will take us many different areas. Just backtracking, you know, like you guys had this experience where you didn't get anything on the hunt, but you. I'm like racking my brain in front of my computer for weeks and months. How do I synthesize everything that I learned from Wall Street to all the personal development coaching and all the people that I've worked with from Paul Cech to Tai Chi masters and et cetera. How do I synthesize this into one digestible eight week course that someone's gonna actually be able

to take and get something out of? And I said, all right, I don't really have time for this hunt, but I'm gonna go and I'm gonna out of. And I said, all right, I don't really have time for this hunt, but I'm gonna go and I'm gonna do it. And it just so happened in the moment when we're on this journey and we're taking a relatively light dose of medicine for me and I'm lying under a pecan tree.

And in that moment, the whole map just comes into me. And I learned so much about this like receptive, more feminine approach to business. How it's not really, the vision I got was, it's not so much time under tension, which is a big workout concept. It's more about time intention or time attention. And that came to me in that moment

and all the different steps for the course were really laid out for me. And I went home with this incredible map, which then I spent the next three or four months developing, which became the Abundance Archetype. Fuck yeah. Well, I want to dive right in. I do want to mention, I've only had this happen to me once. It was on a soul wander in Sedona. And Anahata said, you're not out hiking, find a fucking place and connect to it, connect to an element. And I was thinking about that. I'm like, man, I really feel connected, like a strong desire to be next to water.

And Aubrey's land in Sedona is like 40 acres, but it backs against a national forest, right? With Bear Mountain, which is just the most pristine, largest mountainside in Sedona. And I was like, well, the only water is this natural pond he just put in. And it feels like cheating going back to his house, but I'm going to fucking do it. I'm going to lay right by this little stream, you know? And it all came to me, you know, for full temple reset with the fast and with the mobility

and doing all these things at the same time, sauna, cold, bringing in Godsey for a lot of the union work. So personally, I have experience with that in one time where it's like, it really is just, I'm listening, you know? And yeah, I've had some shit that I've been working on, but almost in the surrender of letting that go, then it all fucking floods in, you know, the perfect map.

So let's dive into the perfect map of abundance. I think that's a phenomenal thing that I want to give extra credit to is like, if you're also trying to figure something out like this, maybe instead of sitting in front of the computer and racking your brain, like get out in nature and just listen. No, that's what my whole course is about. I mean, I'll just say two things in that before we jump in. What I learned in that moment was that

I was actually an employee of the course. I was working for her. And that switch at that vantage point where I realized this is not about me or about what I want to produce, but I'm in service of this bigger thing. And I started listening to what she wanted to express. What were her goals and desires and boundaries and limits? And when I started getting into that mindset, then the course started coming. And that's a totally receptive state where this is not the,

you're not the driver of the podcast. You're actually working for the Kyle Kingsbury podcast in service of this bigger mission. That the things that we create actually have dreams of their own. They're actually alive entities, right? They're almost like beings. And when you can engage, and I do a lot of different things,

even with my drum in this course, where I tap people in to meet the image of their business and listen to him or her and to receive information. And that was a total kind of switch in my perspective of how to relate to what I wanted to create. That's massive. Both of us have read the book, Egregores. And when I think of it, I think of like giant shitty corporations like Google or Microsoft, something like that. But I don't think of it in terms of like,

you know, a very small entrepreneurship or, you know, a little podcast or this or that, you know, and those things absolutely have their archetypical symbology, their spirit, the thing that keeps it alive, that's driving itself really that we're in service to. And one of the ones that was big for me was looking at the market. I came from the Wall Street background, looking at the market as a person, right? Like instead of waking up each day, and this is what I go deep into this course, but instead of waking up each day and saying,

how am I gonna figure out this market? Well, how many numbers can I crunch? How much analysis can I do? How many, I don't know, balance sheets can I look at or whatever your charts or whatever it is that you're doing? What if I spent a few minutes listening to her? And so my boss, Paul Tudor Jones, used to call it Mr. Market,

but I developed a relationship of calling it Mrs. Market. This is not really an agenda thing, but in terms of the masculine and feminine energies, masculine energy is usually more linear and logical. And the market is more like circular and emotional and erratic and irrational, right? It could break your heart and it could take you to the highest of highs. It's much more of a feminine experience to me. And so, I got in this practice of just developing meditations where I could listen to the market and try to tap into her heartbeat and her rhythm and say, how can, you know, where are you going? And I just want to

follow you instead of trying to figure you out and control you, realizing that you are this entity with dreams and high dreams and low dreams and moods and desires. And I'm just in service of this. I'm just trying to listen to you. And so for me, that was like a mind-blowing flip that really helped my career. And that's one of the things I wanted to bring into this course. You know, I think it's really more important than ever because with AI just increasing at an exponential rate, which I'm sure everybody is well aware of if you have a heartbeat, anywhere you look, it's replacing jobs and it's improving a lot of things in some ways. And it's a huge danger and a threat in many other ways. But in

my course, I teach people to find what is their competitive edge, right? What is your differentiating factor, that your uniqueness, that being you, you are the best asset and you're the greatest technology you have. Investing in yourself is the best thing you can do on all levels because there's nobody else like you. You're so unique, right? And so, when I thought about what is our competitive edge of being human? What do we have that computers, machines don't have? Well, we have 4.9 billion years of evolution pumping through our veins. Talk about market research,

right? Talk about market research. We have the intelligence of our heart. Machines don't have a heart, right? We have all the wisdom of our body, the gut brain, all the bacteria in the microbiome, and we have the ability to dream. And I think dreaming is the greatest AI. And so for me, it's like, if we want to compete, let alone survive, if we want to compete and survive and thrive in this world where AI is taking over, we must get back to the future. We must get back to the things that make us human, that are our competitive edge. AI will just as easily make an atomic bomb as it will make technology that could clean water or save children's lives, right? It doesn't have any discernment. So we have to use the things that make us human. We have to get back

to our heart, the intelligence of our body, our dreaming capacities and use those to actually compete in this world that's getting more and more left brain. And so we have to move into the right brain. We have to move into the whole brain thinking or we're going to get annihilated because we're trying to play their game on their turf, right? an MMA fight and you were doing, you were using like, you know, you're doing, going against some judici master or something like that

and you were going to try to play their game instead of playing. Let me pull guard. Yeah, instead of playing whatever is your strength, right?

And it's the same thing that we're doing, but we're playing the game of the AI, of the machines by only using our left brain logical analysis

day in and day out, trying to control things and figure things out and giving over our power to it. Instead of getting back to like getting our feet on the ground, connecting with nature, connecting into our infinite intelligence, using the power of dreaming when we go to sleep at night and we don't have to do anything, but pay attention and record them and interact with them in that kind of way and listen to our bodies. Our bodies have so much wisdom and they can inform our business decisions, right?

So this is really the essence of why I wanted to create this. Fuck yeah, that's so good. Yeah, it's making me think of like Ken Wilber, Structured Stages of Consciousness. And obviously, you've heard many times, I've been working with Paul longer than anyone else. And Paul has mentioned on many podcasts

with different guests, but the Structured Stages of Consciousness, as we move through, you transcend and include. And we know, but we've been stuck in the mental stage and at the cost of everything else, right? Intelligent people who are connected will be inclusive of the archetypical stages and the magical stages and understand the beauty and essentialism from each of those stages, including the mental stage. But most people have forgone everything else as utter nonsense. And now they think this is the holy grail, right? But locking into that, aramonic, whatever you want to call it, we're doomed to lose there. We're doomed to be outgunned there. We have to incorporate and we

have to find whatever that next stage is and transcend and include the mental stage. Yeah. And not only are they locked in these stages of consciousness, they're also locked in particular states of consciousness, completely consensus reality, ordinary thinking, instead of going into dreaming or altered states or non-ordinary states of consciousness as well, which are really useful. I mean, every part of ourselves deserves a seat at the table, right? If we have to access all parts of ourself, and this is just not everybody in a business, every part of Onnit or Fit for Service,

everyone deserves a seat at the table and everyone's voice matters. You know, the person sweeping the floors might not have the same vote as the CEO, but that voice is listened to because that's an important part of the whole. The same thing with the parts of ourselves. We need to listen to all parts of ourselves and bring all parts of ourself to the table and give it a voice, which includes all of the stages of consciousness and all the states of consciousness as well. I love that. Well, let's dive in here.

Let's dive into some of the juicy details. One of the things that I love, and I didn't have time to go through the whole thing, but you had sent me a brief overlay of things, slide by slide, and I was looking at it. One of the things I love is the incorporation of the body. I love that you're not just looking at this thing from an ideological, here, this is what abundance means, and this is what abundance means and this is how to get there. Like you understand the entire system

must be on board with that. Talk a bit about how the body plays into this. Yeah, the body is hugely important. I mean, one of the reasons I did this is because when I was on Wall Street, I witnessed that there was a mental and physical health crisis, okay? You know what I mean?

Like this group gets overlooked for this, but these people, like oddly, are really suffering. Their health is worse than most other groups. Their mental health is terrible. I mean, I was literally witnessing people having heart attacks and strokes throughout my career on the trading floor while I was there. And many of these people have high levels of depression, high levels of anxiety. And they get to a point like I did where they realize that abundance must mean more than just making money. It must be wealth and well-being, right? Like what's the point of all this success if I don't have any health or if I don't have any purpose in my life? driving factors. I experienced that myself on the deepest level possible. I was 330 pounds on Wall Street. I was in a really bad place, despite the fact that I was one of the most successful traders in the world at 26 years old. And so there was like this huge paradox of feeling rich, but

also feeling broke at the same time, broke in. And so that really kind of drove my interest into creating something that can actually make people feel successful, but also beautiful, abundant financially, but also have some feeling of reciprocity and purpose and thinking about seven generational returns, thinking about net impact versus net worth. I think that's one of the most screwed up things we do. We look up online, what's this person's net worth?

I mean, how much money do they have in a bank, right? But wealth is meant to be performed. It's a verb like we were talking about. It's like, how is your money performing? How many jobs is it creating? What's its impact? What kind of products and solutions is it creating? Not how much is accruing in a bank account somewhere in Switzerland or something like that or in the Caribbean, right? So, what I essentially did was I realized that I took everything that I learned from Paul Tudor Jones when I was investing and realized that what if all of those techniques and secrets to being a successful investor actually worked if you applied them to investing in yourself. And that was sort of the basis for it. And I also started studying flow states.

And what I realized that, I was studying Jamie Weill and Steven Kotler's work with the- Stealing Fire. Stealing Fire. And I think it's the human or the flow genome project. I forget what they call it. And their work dates back to Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi,

one of the founders of flow science in the 1960s. And he sends it back to American psychologist, William James in the 1800s. And as the founder of sort of flow research, right? But what I realized was like a lot of that work as good as it was, it really didn't give me a systematic approach to how to cultivate those states.

How do I do this every day in my life in a way that actually makes sense, that I can ritualize? And when I realized that American psychologist, William James was heavily influenced by India and that got me into this deep dive into yoga. And I realized that the eight limbs of Ashtanga yoga were essentially eight systematic steps

that our ancestors have been doing for tens of thousands of years to create perfection and flow states in their life. And so that's what I took sort of as the foundation for my eight steps that I just sort of modernized and combined everything from Wall Street and everything from my personal development into following those eight steps

to essentially creating a flow state where you're performing and feeling at your best, where you have wealth and wellbeing, right? So the first step, and I'd love to walk you through this a little bit. Yes, please. Is creating your own process. Like you must find your way or your highway.

You know, Frank Sinatra said, I did it my way, right? That's the key. It's like, there's only one of us ever with these fingerprints. There's no two snowflakes are alike. We must individuate and actualize our fullest potential to be successful. It's really, really crucial. And so, the first thing is defining your competitive edge. So, when I worked for Paul Tudor Jones, he would say to every single employee that was trying to get hired there, how is it that you make money? What is it

that you do? And explain it to me in one to two sentences at a fifth grade reading level, right? So, it's like the simplicity is the ultimate sophistication and many people would stumble on that. So, if I asked you about what makes the Kyle Kingsbury podcast great, like what it is that you do that differentiates your podcast from every other one? Yeah. The first thing that comes to mind is I get paid to learn and teach what I learned through my experience. Right.

Right. So I'm a guinea pig in some ways, but yeah, just those two. I get paid to learn and teach through my experiences. So that's your competitive edge for your podcast, which is really good. And then most people really stop there. But what my course then, where it continues it is, what's your competitive edge for your life? Right? Like, how do you define like what diet works best for you?

What diet creates stable, repeatable returns for you? What movement practices create this competitive edge, this differentiating factor for you? How much sleep do you need? Not what, you know, you read in a book. What's happy making for you, right? How do you learn best? You know, do you need to work in teams? Do you need to work alone? Do you, how many certifications do you need? And all of these various things, but it's developing not only a competitive edge in a process for what provides a stable,

repeatable returns that are different from others in our business, but also realizing that we must create that in our own life with all of the practices from diet to exercise, et cetera. Yeah, that's so massive. I mean, I'm just thinking about that. One thing I did at the beginning of this year was I made a commitment to do some form of mobility every single day this year. I've missed three days. We're pretty close to April here, so that's not bad. I did one day missed per month.

And my wife had 200 hours of yoga teacher training, so we'll do Ashtanga or Vipassana. And if we've got that for 45 minutes or an hour, that's the best. If we don't, all I got to do is get up against the wall and do a super couch stretch from Kelly Sturette for six to six to eight minutes total, you know, four minutes, each leg, three minutes, each leg. As long as I fucking hit that, I still check the box. Yeah. And what I've found is that most of the time,

because that's my best bang for my buck, stretch, that one. What I found is that the more consistent I am, the easier it is to actually do a 16-minute routine or a 30-minute routine. And as I've done that, my entire experience is better. I feel loose. I go to boxing once a week and everything's like that, but everything's improved. My general energy's improved. And all the ticky-tack old injuries like neck pain, I'm not stretching my neck. And yet at the same time, as we know through Paul's work, you know, like as I'm stretching my chest and my hand out, pretty sure it's all connected and the super couch stretch, you know, freeing my fucking all this anterior chain, voila, no fucking neck pain. Right. So, um, that, that to me has been

one of the single greatest differences because from the amount of lifting and boxing and things that I do, I'm a little bit more on the stiff side. So, I have to do that, right? My wife is super bendy, like contortionist. She needs to lift to stiffen up or she's too bendy. She's too mobile, right? And that's the beauty of the unique approach and finding what works for you, right? I mean, if you went to like a CrossFit and everyone gets the same workout across a thousand gyms, or you go to a doctor and you're getting the same prescription, it's like, we are not data sets. Paul talks about this really well. He quotes Marie-Louise von Franz, one of the top Jungian analysts, who says, if you took 2,000 tons of stone and the stones had an average weight of 20 pounds per stone,

if you sifted through all the 2,000, the two tons or whatever it is, amount of stones, you might not find one stone that was actually 20 pounds because it's the law of averages. And that's the problem with these prescribed for all mass exercise programs, diets, business strategies, whatever. It's like the whole juice is in the individuation and the uniqueness that we are not a data set. We are not an average. We have our own stories and

our own injuries, our own traumas, our own dreams, and their own processes that are moving through us. And if we don't tap into that, we're not gonna ever really be successful on any level. I love that. Yeah, so once you define this competitive edge, the second one is what I call unit sizing. So just a little bit on Wall Street.

Once I know what my edge is, so for me, I was a weather trader, right? So, I actually studied how the weather impacted different commodity markets. So, if it was extremely cold, let's say in the winter in New York and Chicago, there'd be a lot of demand for natural gas. I was going to say, is this like trading places? It's like that, yeah. Market? Yes. It's pretty funny. I was just doing some videos where I was analyzing for fun some of those key trading scenes.

Like real trader talks about this. I had some fun doing that. But yeah, I was working with the Wolf of Wall Street and some of the key movies. But it's very much like that concept, trading places. They were on a commodity exchange, I think doing frozen orange juice

or something like that. And I did doing frozen orange juice or something like that. And I did trade frozen orange juice. There were times when there'd be weather events like freezes in Florida. If it got cold enough in Florida or in Brazil, the oranges would freeze and then the price would go up. So we went around the world knowing where were the most weather sensitive times

of locations and times of year for various crops, whether or not it's like corn and soybeans in the Midwest in the summer in the US or natural gas or oil or the impacts of hurricane season, anything that the weather touched, that was our focus. But when it was a time of year, when the commodity was not weather sensitive, we didn't touch it, right? Because we knew what our edge was. And we actually realized as part of it that there's not a lot of weather in these what we call shoulder months, these April and October times because they're in between seasons. And so our edge actually went negative where we realized that when we were working in April and October, we were always

losing money because we actually had no competitive edge. So we decided to take those months completely off from trading, which is like this incredible thing that like you're working less, but you're actually saving money. So for me, it was really knowing when the times were the most weather sensitive. And then when I had the biggest opportunities, I would bet according to the opportunity set in front of me. Imagine if you're playing like counting cards in blackjack

and you were really good at that, even though it's not technically legal, but let's just say you could do that. You would be betting larger when you thought that the hand was more likely to be stacked in your favor and you'd be betting smaller. And the same thing happens in investing. So big opportunity, big bet. Small opportunity, small bet. No opportunity, no bet. I mean, it's really that simple. But then how do we carry that over to our life? So if we look at our units or our bet size as our time, our energy, our money, and our resources, how are we deploying those assets into these different categories versus what's working for us? So really analyzing where's our money going? Where's our time going? Where's our energy going? How are we actually utilizing our resources?

And is it in accordance with our competitive edge that we know now we've defined as what works best for us, right? And so what I like to talk about is this actually gives this risk-reward approach to life. So this is kind of fun. In trading, we look for these three-to-one reward-risk opportunities, meaning that when you go into an investment, you want to have the perceived or the potential reward to be at least three times greater than what you can lose. So one of the big things that we used to say is, you only have to be as good as a Hall of Fame baseball player. So a Hall of Fame baseball player probably has a batting average of what, like 300, 325? Maybe the best ever is like 350 probably, the career batting average. I can't

imagine it's anywhere even close to 400. I'm not sure. But the idea being that if you have a 300 or 350 batting average, you can get out six or seven out of 10 times and still be in the Hall of Fame. So when you carry that over to a trader, the idea is when you're getting out, you're trying to take those small losses, small losses, small losses. But then when you get on, you have a home run. And that's how you manage that. But we don't really look at the risk reward of all the choices we make in our life. What are the risk rewards of our diet? What are the risk rewards for going out for a drink after work? What are the risk reward of our movement practices and so forth? So, for example,

one way to break that down is even looking at love languages, right. So, you know, for example, one way to break that down is even looking at love languages, right? So, you know, you have the different love languages like quality time, you know, acts of service, physical touch, et cetera. Gift giving. Gift giving, yeah. So let's just say my wife, Kara,

let's say her biggest gift that I could give her is giving her an hour off from the kids to take a bath or get a massage, right? That seems to be pretty high on the scale. That's a big. Even if it's not their number one. That's a big thing. But if I come home with like an expensive gift,

it's not going to have the reward versus the risk of what I spent on it compared to if I actually was in alignment with her values of, hey, I could spend nothing, give her two hours alone to get a massage or to take a bath or just to read a book. And that's going to have a huge bang for my buck, right? So starting to look at these things in our life, like what are the risk rewards of what we're doing? What are the risk rewards of having a natural diet versus having supplements or hormone replacements or testosterone or various things. Really looking like what's the benefit and what's the downside? There might be some rewards for going out with our buddies after

work for a drink, but maybe we're going to get tired or do something we regret and then we're going to come in the next day and perform poorly at work. There's an intersectionality with all of the things that we do in our life and all the things that we do in our work and they feed on each other, right? If we're stressed out at work, we come home, we do in our life and all the things that we do in our work and they feed on each other, right? If we're stressed out at work, we come home, we get in a fight with our partner. If we get in a fight with our partner, we don't get enough sleep.

We go into work the next day and we're doing poorly. And it's just this hamster wheel. So I encourage people in this section to really look at the risk reward and try to find things that are asymmetrically positive for them. Like sleep, for example, has an incredible risk reward profile. It's free, There's no downside and it has huge upside, right? Yeah. That's a home run

every fucking night as long as I say yes and I'm in bed by nine for me personally. If I fall asleep by 9.30, that's my best sleep ever. If I go to bed past that, I get a second wind. So it's no point though. But yeah. Yeah. So that's totally what you do. So, now that you have your competitive edge and you understand how to use your units of time, energy, money, and resources appropriately in accordance with that edge, you have to create systems look at how many downloads you're getting or the sponsorships and commissions or whatever that is for you, right? But how do we set up systems of evaluation to know how our body's doing, right? And this all comes from how to eat, move, and be healthy, but looking at your stools, looking at your energy level, looking at your sex drive, how you look in the mirror, what's your mood like been lately? What does your partner say your mood is like, right?

And all these different ways to evaluate ourselves. So we must then set up these systems of evaluation to know how our investments in our business or in our personal life and how we're actually allocating our units, how are they actually performing? And to do a recapitulation constantly evaluating the choices we're actually allocating our units, how are they actually performing? And to do a recapitulation constantly evaluating the choices we're making

and how they're actually, what the results are. And then we can learn to update the process as we go along, right? Yeah, and that's gotta be huge for everyone because even if we've studied with Paul and done the things that we've done, there can be a tendency to get into routine and not necessarily flow, but just like, this is what I've got going on on Monday, and this

is my Tuesday, and this is my Wednesday, and not actually poking holes in that and seeing it from different angles to really ask, like, is this working? Is this how I want this dialed in? Does this feed Dr. Happiness? Is this the best way I can have this set up? Yeah. Yeah, totally. That really resonates.

Yeah. If we're spending a lot of time in a particular area, but we're not getting the result, we have to then update it. We have to be constantly going through this recapitulation of our life, even down to the smallest, the seemingly smallest details and really analyzing every choice,

every thought, every action. What's the impact and what's the result? And is that actually getting me a good return versus the risks I'm taking of spending my units there? So that's the third step. The fourth step is this, what I call the art of stalking, which is really cool.

Fucking creeper. Yeah. Well, it came from Carlos Castaneda's work. And the one that we're stalking is ourself. We're stalking ourself. And so this is what I talked about, looking at these intersectionalities, looking at how all these different things correlate

to our business, to our home and to our health. Then it's this idea of paying attention to our body, right? I talk about our body symptoms can be our greatest investment ally, which is a really trippy thing to think about because most of us really want to numb out our body symptoms can be our greatest investment ally, which is a really trippy thing to think about it because most of us really want to numb out our body symptoms. But let's just say I'm about to do a trade or this could be anything. You're about to maybe introduce a new guest

or think about having a new guest on a podcast or making a new decision with your investments or going to build something on your property or whatever it is. I'm imagining I'm there, I'm sitting on Wall Street and I'm about to make a trade, but I feel something in my stomach, right? Many people, I saw everybody on Wall Street just go and take an Advil or a Tylenol. I mean, they just have these like boxes and boxes of boxes of that kind of shit. Yeah, it's just like Tums, all the over-the-counter,

like the things that people think are harmless. And they just completely numb that out. They get a headache, multiple Advil. Stomachache, multiple Advil. What if that was actually the wisdom of your body coming there to give you a message that maybe something's not right about what you're about to do?

What if that's your greatest teacher, right? So what if I'm going to go there, I'm going to push a buy button, let's say, and I start to feel that instead of numbing it out, I take a moment to pause and I go deeper and through exercises in my course, how to go deeper into exploring what's the message that's emerging there, right? And there's also this concept of double signal. So, less than 10% of the information coming from us comes from what we say. The rest is coming from our body or how we feel emotionally or our body language. So, we've all seen this thing when we talk to somebody, say, oh, how are you doing? And they're like, oh yeah, I'm good, I'm good. You know, looking've all seen this thing when we talk to somebody, say, oh, how you doing? And they're like, oh yeah, I'm good, I'm good.

You know, looking off at his face. Or if you're about to shake hands on a deal and the person looks away, right? Those, right? Yeah. Right? Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah.

This one's going to work out. Okay. Maybe I want to rethink this, right? So like we can start to study those things. Times that where our body is not congruent with what we're saying can be huge opportunities to rethink what's happening, right? It's not necessarily don't do it. It might be do it bigger. It might be do it in a new way, create a new way to do it. It might be this is not good for me at all. But it's an opportunity to stop and notice that something inside of me, the deeper wisdom part of me, that the one that's pumping my heart and breathing me and digesting my breakfast

and all of that, the one that can do way more computations than I could ever imagine doing, remembering like a 10 digit phone number at best, is telling me that something is not congruent with this decision and there's more to explore here. And this carries over obviously into our life. It's an incredible way to do relationship work, right? You're there with your partner and you say, hey, do you want to go out to dinner tonight?

And she's like, okay, yeah, let's go. That's an opportunity to say, well, I noticed that there was something going on there, you know, can you explore that a little bit, you know, what was that about, and then, you know, she might say, you know, well, I really want to go with you tonight, but I just, I'm really tired, can we just watch a movie tonight and stay home and maybe make some popcorn, maybe later this week we can go out to dinner, and that might stop you from going out and having a shitty time or getting into a huge fight, right, the same thing with an employee. If you went over to an employee and said, hey, can you take on this new task or can you work tonight or can you do whatever it is,

and you notice that there's something not congruent with their body language versus what they're saying, usually they're going to be too shy because they're afraid to say no to you as the manager or the boss. They're just gonna say yes, but there's something unconscious. See, the truth of your body can't be hidden. Because imagine if we were in a tribe tens of thousands of years ago, and you stole all of the bananas from the tribe or something to eat for yourself.

And there's like 50 of us over here starving. That's the same reason that muscle testing works and kinesiology works because there's a survival mechanism built into the body that it always will tell the truth. And so you can tap into that wisdom, that 5 billion years of evolution when you're investing or making any decisions or working with an employee or a manager. So even though that person that you're telling them, hey, can you take this task on? And they're saying yes, the wisdom of their body that they can't lie is saying no. And that could actually be helpful for you because if you give

them that project and they don't finish it or they're miserable, it's not going to come out how you want it anyway. You're going to have to redo it. So these are a lot of the things that we're doing in this section. And in addition, recognizing the places that we have stuck points, right? I know that you're really deep into this work, but it's about getting comfortable with the uncomfortable.

So I give, it could be like cold plunges or saunas or fasting or retreating or darkness retreats or whatever it is. But the idea is, how do we know when we're on the edge of like really stepping into a great opportunity, but we're a little bit timid versus our body signals telling us that we need to pull back?

That's a really subtle thing. And the only way to do it is to really get comfortable with the edge, right? So it's like, I'm just curious, like what are some of the ways that you do that in your life that you feel like you push yourself a little bit so you can be more comfortable with

the uncomfortable stuff? The easiest is the hot and cold. It's still like, I mean, if I'm not consistent with it, it's still not fun. There's still a point where it's like, fuck man, this thing's down to 35. Who turned it down that low you know like get it at 40 you know like let me respectable number yeah let me use it to 40 um or you know the the rogan calls it the inner bitch you know

but i'm in there at the 10 minute mark and i'm like i know i set my timer for 15 but i'm just gonna do 12 you know and it's like well actually maybe i'll fucking try to hang out this last three minutes where it's where it's juicy for me. And that's where I'm going to get maybe the most benefit if I can actually remain calm in the storm. And it's, as you do, like Wim Hof teaches, when you go in the cold, it's not how long you go. It's how quick can you find your center there? How quick can I slow my breathing down so I'm not, and I'm actually calming the nervous system in the face, right? In the eye of the hurricane. And that's the key because that's what carries over to the business.

Because then when you're under fire and you're making decisions, you know, in the heat of the moment, whether or not you're investing or even in like a relationship conflict or whatever it is, you need to know how to find that center. So you can be really in tune with that wisdom. Because if you're getting thrown around and you're getting the kind of the inner critic and you're getting nervous and you're off your center, you're not going to be able to make good decisions.

So this is all this idea of getting comfortable with those moments. And one of the ways that the flow guys, Jamie Wheal and Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi talk about is pushing yourself 3% to 4% over your current skill level, challenging yourself a little bit more. And what it shows is that actually life satisfaction doesn't seem to come from always winning, doesn't seem to come from the easy win. What it really comes from is actually win or lose the growth process. So if we play chess and you're slightly better than me, I actually find more satisfaction trying to play you win or lose than if I'm beating somebody who's, you know, 10% less than me just to wipe the floor with them.

So, like, the life satisfaction actually comes from slightly pushing ourselves constantly above our skill level. If it's too much, if, you know, I said, hey, go in the cold punch for an hour, right, you just be overwhelmed. And if it's too easy, I say, hey, just go, you know, dunk your head in. It's too light, you know? So- Take a cool shower. Yeah. Jump in the pool. So yeah, that's this whole idea. And you know, these things like, there can be really simple ways to practice them. I mean, one of the ways that I find actually most difficult is actually going over my edge to say to somebody in my day, how I really feel about them

a little bit more deeply than I normally say. That's fucking just... Yeah, isn't that... My body. Yeah, just like... All right, so I'm like, oh God, I'm getting uncomfortable. How do I express the love for... I'm just thinking of my mom right now or my dad or my brother or my wife or my kids

or even anybody, even you right now. How do I just go over my edge and just tell you like how much I just appreciate you as a person and being here in this podcast? You know, like that is edge work and that's tough to do, especially for many of us that are like closed down emotionally. So it can be like making a sound you've never made.

It could be trying a new position out in bed with your partner that you've never tried out. It can be just like literally just expressing yourself in a way that you've never expressed, but systematically exercising those edge muscles are really important part of really performing at your best. Yeah. I love that. That's looking great. Yeah. So then, just to go quickly, so then the fifth step is turning losing into learning, right? If you study any of the best people out there, they've all made a million mistakes.

And it's not about making the mistakes. It's about turning them into lessons and into what did you learn from it? You know, Paul Tudor Jones would tell me, he's like, listen, a necessary stop on the road to becoming a great trader is actually having a blow up, right? Because then you truly understand the importance of risk management and what it feels like to lose money and to lose your client's money. And it's not an academic experience, but it's like an embodied experience. You have the wisdom now.

So like all of these things that we know, all these so-called failures, Edison's 3,000 tries at the light bulb before he got it. And I was just thinking even about Aaron Judge in baseball had like 62 home runs or whatever it was. He also had the most strikeouts in the league. Nobody cares about the strikeouts. They just care that he had the most home runs, right? It's really irrelevant, the failures, as long as you

learn from them and grow. And if you look back at your life, I'm sure you'll see that the biggest lessons, the biggest things that you've learned that have made you who you are today actually didn't come from the easy moments, right? I mean, I was just listening to your last podcast, all that came out of your childhood. All of those, you could classify them as losses in some ways, but they turn into incredible lessons who shaped who you are today and what you're doing in the world and how you raise your children.

Yeah, they're the gifts. Monohata always says that, what gifts did your teachers teach you? And your greatest teacher is not just the person who taught you the most good stuff, it's the person that taught you the most period, which might be a lot of, this is how I'm gonna do it differently.

Yeah, that's totally true. It reminds me of this one lesson in this course It's the person that taught you the most, period. Yeah. Which might be a lot of, this is how I'm going to do it differently. Yeah. You know? That's totally true. It reminds me of this one lesson in this course called The Petty Tyrant, another castaneta thing where you, you know, in the first lesson, we harness the power of our teacher. We look at, you know, the qualities of a really important teacher in our life, what their effect on was, what their effect was on us, how we can harness their power to get through this course and how we're already a little bit like them. But then I flip it around and I say, find somebody in

your life that was completely disturbing to you, that was like really rode you hard. So for me, the one that always comes up was my high school football coach. I was just thinking of my high school football coach. Something about these high school football coaches are the greatest petty tyrants. So like the petty tyrant is somebody who's like a button pusher, just gets on your nerves. And like, think about the importance of this

in the workplace. Because there's a lot of them, right? I mean, we're constantly forced to work with people and if we're working for any kind of organization where there's going to be somebody that we have to work with who gets on our nerves a little bit. But the freedom comes

when we can literally rise above and harness their power, that there's something in them that's getting on our nerves that we actually need. So it's one of the ways that I do about it is I think about what was like the essence about, the way I do it in the course is I say, make a hand movement that the person would make

that would resemble them. And I'm thinking about my high school football coach just like pointing the finger at me, just like, you know, you fucker, whatever, you know, he was really kind of critical. But then when I think, what's the essence of this critical thing? It's like, there's something like very direct and like speaking his mind and speaking directly to me. There was like a presence and there was a directness and like, where do I need to be more like that? Well, I need to protect my time more. I need to be more clear in my message in this course.

I need to be more critical of the things that are not working for me and so forth. So all of these people that are like these disturbances to us, there's actually a part of that, that, that of that energy that we actually need more of in our life, which really goes well with that.

Turning these losses into learning or losses into lessons. Yeah. That's massive. And there are totally resonates too. I used to think that guy didn't like in the, in the, the, the benefit was it helps me be a better coach. Right. Cause I'm not going to think that guy didn't like in the, in the, the, the benefit was it

helps me be a better coach because I'm not going to coach that way. He was hypercritical and, and, um, um, said it never amount to shit. You know, like one of those guys like, Oh, you know, maybe that was like his, uh, weird fucked up way of, of propelling me to be better. Yeah. But, um, like a coach that's a more of a player's coach that takes you in and privately says like, hey, you're doing good on X, Y, and Z, but I need you to do a little bit better on this thing. Here's how we can do that.

Yeah. Not calling you out in front of the whole team. Yeah. What fucking happened? What are you fucking doing? That kind of thing. Yeah, certainly we don't condone these people's behavior, and we wouldn't want to use it in the same way,

using the same meta skills that they use it. There would be a different sort of compassion or empathy in how we would use it but even in these disturbances that we remember there's something there like that it's a part of a dreaming process waking us up to our full potential then i love that yeah it's i mean because there are things like like you know check says you know stop bullshitting yourself there are times where you got to come in and i was when i gained five pounds and last week during Fit for Service. And I was like, oh man, I ate fucking conventional tacos five days in a row. I had breakfast tacos that were not organic. I was like, yeah, I'm bloated.

Okay, cool. But it takes me actually saying that other than just being confused about it. It's like, I don't understand. It's like, oh no, I totally fucking get it. That's what I did for five days. Let's get back on Dr. Diet and get dialed in. Totally. Totally. Yeah. So there's, yeah, the directness is a really cool, it's a really cool spin on taking that and using it. I love that. Yeah. Yeah. Everything is here to waken us up, you know,

from our dreams at night to the people that are disturbing us, to the great teachers in our life, to our flirts and our fantasies, our body symptoms, our little gestures that we make, everything. It's such an amazing, rich way to enjoy and engage in life, realizing that this is not just a random universe that we're living in. Imagine walking into a museum and seeing all this beautiful art on the wall and just thinking that it was like randomly put there. That there wasn't like a board of directors and there wasn't somebody who built the building and there was an artist and a marketing director and a finance director and some receptionist.

Nature made a pretty cool fucking building. Yeah, all of a sudden they're like- Random collisions of chemicals provided all this. We're in the greatest art museum there is. But we don't ever really think about the purposefulness or the intelligence behind the creation of it, right? And, you know, for me that every single thing that's in this beautiful museum that we get to live in

is actually put there purposefully. And interestingly there, it's sort of, we're almost dreaming it up into our awareness to call out some part of ourself that we're not in touch with. Which I think just makes life so much more fun. Yeah.

You know? Yeah, I love that. Instead of just like this whole thing just happened to collide together and this is what happened, here we are. Yeah, and we're in this

lucky Goldilocks zone. That makes a lot of sense. It's going to blow up one day. Because things just collide together and turn into beautiful art in our life right without having to do anything to do to make it happen just kick back and watch it yeah we've gone through six of them yeah that was five and then the last one is just learning to detach right so you know imagine you're you imagine you're you're playing roulette at the casino, right? The house has approximately a two

or two and a quarter percent edge every time you play roulette. It has equal number of black and equal number of red and then there's like two green, right? Zero and double zero, I think. So on any single role, they don't know if they're gonna win or lose. There's an equal distribution to every role

of their possibility to win or lose. But they know that if they play long enough, they're going to get that 2%. And that's the key to investing. Finding this process, developing your competitive edge, being very disciplined about investing your unit sizing and your capital appropriately, systematically, according to a confluence of various indicators that you look at that actually define your competitive edge, constantly evaluating, using the intelligence of your body to inform you about your process and learning from your mistakes. If you follow that systematically, knowing that on any one bet, you don't know if you're going to win or lose,

just like the house or the casino. But if you play long enough and you follow that process long enough, you will have stable, consistent returns that go on for a very long career. And the same with your life. And so that's a really hard thing to do though, because in investing, it's very hard to detach

because we start to get very emotional. You know, they used to call this being married to a trade. It's like, I have this idea, it's starting to work against me. And I start to make up all of these ideas around, you know, why I should stay in it, even though it's broken every single rule, because it's like, it becomes this emotional thing. But you have to like, you know, one of the ways that we got around that is at the beginning of the year, and I recommend people do this for their life. It's a very interesting thing.

At the beginning of the year, Paul Jones would ask us to write out a plan for what could happen in this year and what you would do about it. So for example, if I went down 5% and it was negative 5% on the year, how would I trade differently? How would I decrease my position size? Would I take a week off? Would I consult this person or that person? But systematically laying it out because when you get into those moments, you can become very emotional, right?

And so I always think about it like, how could I do that for my personal life? Okay, if I have a plan that if I have five days of tacos in a row, I'm going to then commit to this, I don't know, getting to sleep on time and eating more organic food and exercising this particular way or doing more meditation or whatever it is. It can really be a great way to stop me from spinning out of control and losing track of my process. So, you know, one of the ways I can think about detachment is we can control how we drive our car. That's sort of like our process here. But if we speed, we can't control if we get pulled over. If we get pulled over, we can't control if we get a ticket. And if we get a ticket, we can't control what the judge is going to do, right? And so all we can control is our process, but we have to get into this place where we realize that we can't control the ultimate outcome. We can only control our approach to

what we're doing. And everything else from there is out of our control, but we can kind of open up to that. And when we surrender to that, we can become less emotional about it and really become more systematic, better approach to how we were successful in our business and in our life. I love that. It's reminding me of Alan Savory. Obviously, we're here at the farm right now. And Alan Savory is known as one of the greats in the regenerative agriculture space and regenerating the land and doing it all for the right reasons. He has a fantastic holistic management book.

And there's a lot, in any great book, there's so many parallels that go beyond just whatever the book's talking about. Totally. One of the things he says is make a plan, assume a piece of it is wrong, observe the plan in action,

make adjustments. Yeah. Right? So that, in a sense, is a form of detachment. Like, hey, there's going to be something here that doesn't fucking work out right. Know that's the case every time, but observe it. Don't get emotionally attached to it, and then make adjustments. And from there, know that the way you corrected it, you're going to observe it and all those

things, but plan for something to go wrong there too. 100%. Just take your hands off the wheel. 100%. Yeah. In my course, I call this questioning as a meta skill. So one of the things that I learned from Paul Tudor Jones again is that he had this really amazing kind of mantra or approach where he would say that every single day he wakes up,

he automatically assumes that every investment he has on in the books is wrong. And only when he can prove it to himself without a question of a doubt that it's the right trade, does he stay in it. And I think that's a really freaking interesting approach. What if we looked at our relationships like that? Waking up each day and proving that this is actually the right relationship for us to be in, without a question of a doubt, or our diet or our spiritual practices. It's like, there's two types of doubt.

I'm not talking about this idea of skepticism where you don't believe anything. You know, oh, it's everything is, yeah. Everything is just bullshit or something like that. But this is just, this is an approach to life as like asking deep questions, asking deep questions about who am I? Why am I here? What's my greatest purpose? And then even like more simple things like what,

you know, why should I be on this diet? Why should I be in this exercise routine? Why should I do any of the things that I'm doing in my life? Really deeply questioning them, and not in a skeptical way, but in an idea of like wanting to find out the deep truths, right?

And the same thing could be for an investment or for any business opportunity. It's just having this approach to life as coming from a place of deep questioning and curiosity instead of just assuming. Because what happens is we start to get this confirmation bias. Think about when you go on your phone on the internet. All of a sudden, highly programmed algorithms are sending you more and more of the same information because they know what you like. And every time you click on something that you like, it realizes that, okay, this person likes this and I'm going to put them deeper and deeper into that little box that they're now assuming that is the right viewpoint and paradoxically excluding more and more information. So the more and more you go on there, you realize the less and less you actually know because you're more and more confirmed into your particular bias.

And so this is the same thing in investing in life. It's like really waking up and looking at what are my biases and really questioning them. What are my beliefs and my actions and my feelings and my behaviors and really questioning them and looking at them deeply. I love it, brother. Is this available now? Is it running like evergreen

or do you have a certain time limit for people to sign up? How does this shake out? Yeah, so I don't know when this podcast is going to drop, but the best way to find out information about it is to check out my Instagram, for now, Jason Picard Official. All the information is coming to my IG page there. And you can also go to my website, jasonpicard.org.

And on there, you can download the document that I gave you for free, which is the eight keys to greater wealth and well-being. So one thing we didn't really get a chance to talk about, but is outlined in that PDF is that after you develop this process, I actually take you through the eight steps to how to generate, how to actually master your process, how to get into the flow state, doing what you love to do, following your body and the four doctors, talking about posture, how to set up your desk or how to even travel and commute, how to get into a state of coherence by using the breath, how to realize that distractions are the

death to flow state, how to use open focus, how to alter your state. I call them microdose meditations, how to alter your state while at work without medicines, and then finally getting into this flow state. And so I wanted to, just in case somebody wasn't able to take my course, I wanted to synthesize really something that people could do without any more time or money or energy that they could actually do in their life today to generate more wealth and well-being for themselves. So I created that PDF that I put on my website that anyone can download. Just put in your name and you can download the eight keys and then more information will come about the course, which will likely launch about

the beginning of May. I teamed up with Freedom Builders. We'll be out before then. We're in March right now. We'll be out by the end of March together. Yeah. I teamed up with Freedom Builders, which is an amazing company, and we put out a freaking badass course, man. It visually looks incredible.

It's like two cameras, Hollywood-style 4K. We did it in my brand new house with amazing things. I have eight check working in exercises for every step of mastery. I have eight Aldoa exercises that I learned from Guy Voyer for every step of mastery. Eight visualizations that I created with a woman, Rachel Epstein, who was on Paul's podcast, wife of the late Dr. Jerry Epstein, created eight specific visualizations to work with each step. I work with the cranial nerve expert, Lois Laney, and we created eight steps

to activate your cranial nerves so all your cranial nerves could be firing and you can be at your optimal level. And I even have a whole soundtrack from listening to Smile of Frequency Music in the course paired with guided meditations. I do a whole entire drum journey in there. It's very full.

It's very full. That sounds very comprehensive. Yeah. Top to bottom on all levels. That's incredible. Well, I expect nothing less from you, brother. Thank you. We'll link to your website and Instagram in the show notes

so people can one-click it and make it super easy. And yeah, this is round two out of many for sure. Dude, it's so good to be with you, man. I love it. Absolutely. Thank you. I'm pumped to show you the, man. I love it. Thank you. I'm pumped to show you the farm. Let's get it.

Let's go. Thank you.