Kyle Kingsbury Podcast - #296 Hands and Feet in the Dirt w/ Chervin Jafarieh

Episode Date: March 29, 2023

Y'all know Chervin, he’s a long time friend of the show and brother of mine. He’s a deep well of knowledge on the teachings of Rudolph Steiner, we talk some Steiner as always. He’s also super pumped to spread the word on his newest product from Cymbiotika, ParaX. It’s not a cleanse per se, it will go a long way in boosting your life and flushing out some of the stickiest parasites that may be ailing you without your knowledge.  ORGANIFI GIVEAWAY Keep those reviews coming in! Please drop a dope review and include your IG/Twitter handle and we’ll get together for some Organifi even faster moving forward. Come see us at the ranch in Lockhart! We’re having our first ever educational gathering March 31 - April 2. Limited tickets available, so head to  Permaculture 101 w/ Gardeners of Eden and get your tickets fam! Connect with Chervin: Website: Cymbiotika.com  Instagram: @chervin333    Show Notes: KKP #193 Chervin Jafarieh Spotify Apple Wake The Fake Up #24 The Teachings of Rudolph Steiner w/ David Avocado Wolf Spotify Apple   "Not in His Image" -John Lamb Lash Steiner's Lectures on Bees - YouTube   Sponsors: Organifi Go to organifi.com/kkp to get my favorite way to easily get the most potent blend of high vibration fruits, veggies and other goodies into your diet! Click that link and use code “KKP” at checkout for 20% off your order! PaleoValley Some of the best and highest quality goodies I personally get into are available at paleovalley.com, punch in code “KYLE” at checkout and get 15% off everything! Desnuda Organic Tequila Sometimes being fully optimized entails cutting loose with some close homies. We have just the sponsor for that occasion. Head over to www.desnudatequila.com for the tippy toppest shelf tequila in the game. Use Code “KKP” for 15% off all purchases!!  Cured Nutrition has a wide variety of stellar, naturally sourced, products. They’re chock full of adaptogens and cannabinoids to optimize your meatsuit. You can get 20% off by heading over to www.curednutrition.com/KKP  using code “KKP” To Work With Kyle Kingsbury Podcast   Connect with Kyle: Fit For Service Academy App: Fit For Service Academy  Instagram: @livingwiththekingsburys   Odysee: odysee.com/@KyleKingsburypod  Youtube: Kyle Kingbury Podcast  Kyles website: www.kingsbu.com - Gardeners of Eden site    Like and subscribe to the podcast anywhere you can find podcasts. Leave a 5-star review and let me know what resonates or doesn’t.

All right, y'all, we're back. We got round three with my brother, Sherveen Jafferia, the founder of Symbiotica Supplements, the Everwell Steiner studied man who I absolutely love. We did a phenomenal podcast, one of my favorite of all time, podcast before last. This one's great, don't get me wrong, but One of my favorite of all time, podcast before last. This one's great. Don't get me wrong.

But one of my favorites of all time was the Lucifer and Aramon podcast we did on the teachings of Rudolf Steiner. And that was our last one we did. So I'll link to that in the show notes if you missed it. It's a must listen. We catch up basically following up on some of those principles

in a podcast that Sherveen just did on his podcast show, Wake the Fake Up with his cousin, David Avocado Wolf, all on parasites. It's a fucking phenomenal issue, phenomenal podcast and a big issue. So check that out. We'll link to that in the show notes as well. And I hope you guys love this one as much as I did. Sherveen's a great fucking dude. He's always on the path of awakening, of learning, of growing, and of figuring out some of the fucking coolest, most potent things you can put in your body, which I absolutely love because people like him, I can think about other shit.

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and the tribe and the Symbiotic organization, everybody's just all in. They see it now. It's like, okay, this is real. We were playing around before a little bit, but now it's like, okay, this is real and we're really helping people. And that's really what it is. It's not anything else. It's not some marketing thing or anything.

It's just like people are like, wait a second, I'm starting to feel better and I got to tell the next person. And when that starts to happen, then you have that hundred monkey effect or critical mass or whatever you want to call it. And I'm seeing it and feeling it just because of the position that I'm in with the company. It's full on, dude.

Yeah. I don't know. It's funny that you say it now because I've kind of felt that way for a while. But you obviously, being in the position that you're in, understand it better than anyone. But I was just waiting for that. That was the thing I was harping on people. And it's funny. I just, I met a guy

who said he had done a little IT work for someone in your company and I was like I know Shervin and he was like no fucking shit it was just this morning

I actually was going for a walk and he said nice t-shirt I was like how do you know them and we got to talking but I was explaining how when I was at Onnit I wanted to create

in total mitochondria exactly what you did in Regenesis the glutathione product. We need PQQ, we need ubiquinol, advanced form CoQ10, and we need to stack that with glutathione. That's right. And all three of those are very expensive. Very expensive.

So because the turnaround wasn't good enough, it got voted down by several people. And I was like, you don't understand. Make your money on AlphaBrain, NewMood, wherever the biggest swing is, cool. But when it comes to creating new shit, it has to fucking work. That's it, dude. You make it work. And AlphaBrain wasn't as cheap as it is now. You became cheaper because you fucking sold so many of it and you kept buying it and buying it and buying it. It became cheaper and cheaper, right? But you create the thing that is absolutely going to blow people's fucking socks off. And that's the draw because now I have that expectation.

Anything I buy from Symanteca, I know it's going to work and I know it's going to work incredibly well, if not better than anything else that exists right now. I really appreciate you saying that. And everything that you're talking about is 100% accurate. And I think the beauty of what we're doing is myself and my partner, CEO Shahab, who you just spoke to earlier, is that we have a really clear understanding that at the root of what we're doing with Symbiotica, it's got to work. It's got to help people. We'll figure out how to make it more economical for us down the line. And like you said, once you have more people involved, more people understand the product, more people are getting the product, then our ability

to manufacture and produce and our buying power for raw materials and things like that, things that we're not producing in-house, if we're not, get much more applicable to economics. And so we don't reverse engineer on an economy standpoint and come back in. We got to build the best product set and then figure it out later down the road. And right now we're figuring it out. We've hit that point now where we're able to pass the savings on to the customer. We've built this robust system way outside of my pay grade. That's our technology department and our bundling service. It's the best. I just changed my bundle. You've made it so fucking easy just to switch it around. We were just talking tattoos before

we jumped on and you've got a beautiful sleeve and I'm just finishing mine. Yeah. Absolutely incredible. And Tosh was, you know, right when Tosh went to get hers, which was right before mine, she's like, we got to load up on glutathione. And I was like, of course we do. So I started buying five at a whack and did that for several months. And then I was like, I don't think I need this for a while. I'm not getting a tattoo for a minute here.

And so we just pushed pause for two months. Then it picked back up and I was like, I think I think I need this for a while. I'm not getting a tattoo for a minute here. And so we just pushed pause for two months. Then it picked back up and I was like, I think I should just change it. So now we're going with vitamin C and creatine and a bunch of other shit that I've wanted to try for a very long time. And it's just like, it's so convenient. You know, it's so convenient.

Right from the phone, change the date even so I can get it sooner, done. There's no one to talk to. There's no one to fix anything. It's really incredible. The Symbiotica family, man, what they're doing over there within the organization,

nothing is outsourced. Nothing. Our customer service in-house, in California. Okay, who's doing that? All our technology, all the code writers that build these systems

so people like me, you, everybody out there can have such a versatile, easy system to get products, stop things, add things, move dates, whatever you want, the versatility of that, that's exceptional. And that's really part of Symbiotica. Not only are we making, in my opinion, the best products out there with the best intention, especially now with Symbiotica 3.0, but we're also making the experience match the formulas.

Might even pass the formulas at some rate because that's how incredible the people are. I'm just one tiny extension of Symbiotica at this point. Yeah, I founded Symbiotica, but with my partners and team and the way that it's expanded the entire staff, everybody's all in. It's really incredible. When I go down to the campus,

I'm just like, whoa, is this really happening? And I'm meeting people I've never met before that are just, they're so enthusiastic to be there and to be part of this movement. Most of them have come on board because they were Symbiotica people, they were on the products and that just kind of brought them in. They're like, okay, we want to be part of this. And they're bringing their expertise to the whole thing. It's the best ever. Yeah. That's fucking rad. I've witnessed that in a few places. When we first got to hang out at Paul Cech's Mandala Workshop, that's something I always noticed about the Organifi folks. It was like, all of y'all have fucking huge smiles on your face. All of y'all clearly love what you're doing. There's a vibe there, right? And that's attracted

the right people in and it's really cool. Of course it is, that that would happen with Symbiotica. Well, you're in town. Anytime I see you, I want to fucking get you on the podcast. So that's a no-brainer. Listen to a podcast you did with your cousin, David Avocado Wolf, where you're really talking about two things, parasites and this new product, Parex. So I want to dive into this. And obviously, let's blow the fucking lid wide open on it because there's a lot of parasitic energy. The last time we spoke, we spoke on Lucifer and Eremon or Eremon. And that was one of the best podcasts I've ever released.

A lot of people reached out to me about that and continue on to actually dive into some of Steiner's work because of that podcast we did together. I don't think a day goes by that I don't get someone tagging me in that, sending it to me, saying how much this podcast opened their entire perspective on their life,

on how they're operating in their own consciousness. You're talking about the one that we did at my old house on the couch. I listened to that the other day. That was phenomenal, man. Thank you for showing up for that. That was incredible. Yeah, it was absolutely incredible. If you haven't listened to that, other day. That was phenomenal, man. Thank you for showing up for that. That was incredible. Yeah, it was absolutely incredible.

If you haven't listened to that, I forgot what number it was. We'll link to it in the show notes. It'll just be right there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just fucking pop over and drop back in. Yeah. So understanding, you know,

there is deep parasitic energy, you know, that we're dealing with, you know, as above, so below. It's not just something like, hey, I got to get these worms out of me, right? Like there is an aspect of as above, so below. So let's take care of ourselves first and see if that has a ripple effect through the cosmos. But at the same time, knowing we have the birth of Aramon in form, maybe not human flesh, but in form this hundred years and knowing what

we're up against from the great resets model of living and you'll own nothing and be happy and all the fucking freedoms that are about to be, or trying to be taken from us, I should say. How does that all factor in? There's this parasitic energy and what's going on inside of us as well as outside of us. Yeah, that's a great question. A parasite needs to keep the host alive. It needs to suck the energy out for its survival. It's in its very ethos. It's in its DNA or whatever you want to call it. It's in its consciousness.

And a parasite can be communal, meaning creating balance and serving some potential role. There are organisms in the body that are non-mammalium that create balance in the body. We know that. A healthy microbiome, for example, needs to have healthy bacterial strains and organisms in there that help us digest food and interpret what's what and how we can actually analog stuff and use it for our own ability to survive and thrive and all those things. But a parasitic organism, by its very nature, is taking from you and robbing you of your own value. And when you look at the system that is being brought upon us right now, it's parasitic by nature. Now, we don't have to go

down a massive rabbit hole. It's pretty clear on how systems are being played right now and how it's taking the energy of the people and telling them there's something that they're not. That's parasitic by nature. Toxins in the environment are parasitic by nature. Removing your liberties is parasitic by nature. Telling you you're something when you're not is parasitic by nature. Robbing children of their ability to transform

and metamorphose into the Godhead that they are, is parasitic by nature. All of these things have a massive grip on our entire reality. The material matrix is parasitic by nature. The economic system, the debt slave capitalistic system, the act of lending money and charging interest on it from fake money in itself, from fractional reserve lending is parasitic by nature. All of these things could very well be a product of people or whatever they are having parasites in them. And so we know that. What's inside of you, what's operating inside of you

is really going to take over how you are operating. And then the whole vampiric energy where most people are in a position where they have to take from people. The energy exchange is not there. It's just like, what can you do for me? What can you do for me? And if you're not doing it, it's on to the next one. It's on to the next one. And you see that in relationships. You see that in meltdowns and romantic relationships and business relationships and weird friendships. And you see it in the nightlife scene. You see it in all this. It's all using, using, using. That's parasitic by nature to a point where all of a sudden

your faculties start falling apart and you haven't really built an identity yourself. So you're in a false identity. Most people that are operating in parasitic energy or vampiric energy don't even know it. That's how the parasite works. And so on a conscious level, when you get into

Ahriman or Luciferic tendencies, there are parasitism within them. They both have a strong, strong affinity for having to rob something from someone else. And so we got to snap out of that. We got to snap out of it. There's a whole thing on like, you are the sum of the five people around you. Choose your friends wisely. Don't let people screw you over. Be careful of that kind of energy. And I say that's all great. But I think instead of pointing out that, we got to point inwards.

We got to look ourselves in the mirror and see how are we operating. And that's a practice of self-love, which is the opposite of parasitism, right? How are we showing up in the world? How are we making the lives of people around us better? What are we doing for ourselves to rid ourselves of the parasites? What are we doing for ourselves to understand how these microorganisms work? And when I say parasites, it could be anything. It could be even heavy metal toxicity, right? Because heavy metals feed parasites. Or it could be even like heavy metal toxicity, right? Because heavy metals feed parasites. Or it could be Lyme spirochetes, right? What are those things doing in our body?

Sexually transmitted diseases, candida, yeast infections, people that are constantly in that rigmarole. Where is that coming from? The diets that we're eating, the foods that we're consuming, the poison we're consuming from TV and the news and all that frequency, that's all parasite driven. And so this is all just one big infection. And I think people now are starting to see, oh, wait a second, I'm not feeling good. I'm having weird symptoms. All of a sudden, I can't sleep anymore. All of a sudden, I have leaky gut. All of a sudden, I have inflammation shooting up all over the place. All of a sudden, I'm having anxiety all over the place.

All of a sudden, I can't get out of bed. I don't want to do anything. I just want to escape. I just want to go and party. I just want to do things that take me away from my own shit and my own rotten mind and my own rotten heart. Then you have self-loathing. And then all of a sudden, you go to a doctor and they prescribe you with certain drugs

and say, you have chronic fatigue syndrome. How did we get chronic fatigue syndrome? That's a whole thing now, right? And then from there it's fibromyalgia and then from there it's Hashimoto's and it's all these autoimmune stuff. And at the end of the day, what is autoimmune? They're telling you that your body's immune system or something's going haywire and it's attacking itself. That's because it's in a confused state. When the whole time, you have a whole litany of co-infections, it's possible that you're having breakdowns in your GI tract, it's ending up in your bones, it's getting into your muscle tissue, you have cysts inside of you where all these things are hiding at. It's full on and people are starting to wake up to that. We're starting to realize like, maybe I have mold in my house and all these things, they work

together. At the end of the day, we're talking about stress load, right? The body is supposed to be able to handle this kind of stuff. We walk around in nature, we'd walk barefoot, we're going to be contracting things. We eat food that's not fully cooked, it's going to happen. You're going to have sushi once every two, three months. You're going to take on some kind of microorganism or some kind of whatever, microscopic parasites. These things are in nature, but we're supposed to have the innate ability in our immune system, the hydrochloric acid in our gut, the saliva in our mouth, the pH, all these things, the immune system to be able to handle that. That's what being human is. It's like we got to bob and weave. But when you already have all those other stressors that are hitting you,

financial stress, relationship stress, you're not drinking clean water, you're not hydrated, you're not mineralized, you don't have good nutrition. That's why we're so big on supplementation and eating the right products and getting naked in front of the sun and grounding to the earth and getting our breath work in and doing all the cool stuff that we're doing, the add-ons, all that kind of stuff, and meditation, all of that is together. It's not a single thing. It's the whole encompassing that builds our vital force. And the interesting about parasites and toxins and all these things from everything that I just said is that they rob your body of oxygen. That's really interesting. They create an oxidative stress at the mitochondrial level, at the subcellular level.

And that starts to become hectic and haywire starts to come about. And the body at that point is confused. Think of your immune system as a circle. And let's say you're at a battle, like your immune system is in the middle and outside is the enemy. Now, I don't like the idea of fighting and war and all that, but I'm just using this as an analogy or a metaphor of how our immune system works. We want to have one line where the battle is being fought. You with me? So we can bottleneck the invader and we can have all eyes being pointed on that so the immune system can focus on other things. So the natural killer cells can focus on other things. So we're not having cytokine storms everywhere and tumor necrosis factor firing off and interleukin inflammation centers and C-reactive protein

and all this different stuff. And our body's not filled with homocysteine levels rising and all these things. This is what rapid aging is that leads towards pathologies, like different forms of disease, cardiovascular, brain diseases, all the different stuff. And so when you have co-infections and all these different things going on, viral loads, Epstein-Barr, all these different things that are all popping off, you're now creating microwars throughout the entire circle. And so your immune system is being stretched very, very thin, and it can't focus on one thing. And at some point, the body gives up and it shuts down. And that's when an autoimmune situation can trigger. And all of a sudden, something gets in. And once something gets in, then it's a lot harder to work its way out. I'm not saying it's impossible, but it's just one

of those things that once the dam is broken, then you have a cascading effect. And that's why you have people collapsing energetically, emotionally, spiritually, physically. You can see it. I come across it all the time. It's not a day go by. I don't get at least a couple hundred messages now of people in the peak of a complete collapse, energetically, emotionally, and all of these symptoms hitting. So my whole thing is, I love to cleanse. I love to do those things. We're in an environment now that is more toxic than ever. There's things in, right? There's things in the atmosphere, there's things in the soil, there's things in the water supply, there's things in the food. You got millions of people on prescription drugs. Prescription drugs, we know what those things can

do to the human body. That's all symptomology, but they come with a whole list of side effects. And so what we have to do is we just have to mitigate that damage so we can go back to homeostasis. That's what it is. And that's kind of what we're trying to achieve here with Symbiotica. That's why I'm all about foundational health. Like we just mentioned, getting on the earth, getting grounded, getting in your breath work,

making sure that you have your non-negotiables in place, like proper sleep, proper hydration, proper sunlight, proper movement. Those are the foundations. Everything comes right after that. So this is an interesting moment in our time. I think people are starting to wake up to the fact that a lot of these viral loads and a lot of these pathogens lead towards major, major consequence, major, major dis-ease. And the

mitigation is the game here. It's not eradication. It's mitigation. It's boosting and working with your immune defense, as opposed to trying to... You get into some erratic behavior or some hypnotic state that, I got to get rid of everything and this and that. It doesn't work that way. And that will always fail you. That's very fleeting. That's luciferic, right? That's a luciferic and it's disintegrating, right? We can't do that.

We got to stay present in the body. We got to find balance. We just got to understand how these things work. And that's more information, more knowledge, more awareness. Like if you got mold in your house, you got to do something about it. You got to move. You know, you got to do something about it. You got to move. Your health matters. If you're constantly going out and kissing people on the mouth, maybe think twice about that. There's so many bacterias that can be transmitted through

kissing a random person like gonorrhea or anything like that. If you feel like you're constantly having diarrhea and you can't digest food, maybe you have H. pylori, helicobacter, which is ripping apart your tight junctions and causing alkalosis, which causes a cytokine storm. And all of a sudden, you have a micro hole in your gut and its permeability has lost its dexterity and you're getting shit in your blood. And now you have all these allergies all of a sudden. What's happening? Your body is not in balance. And you got to take a step forward. And you can't just keep drowning it out with more TV, more bullshit, more back to the same stuff, more depression, more self-loathing. You got to take

the action. And you can't just get on social media and see other people doing it and think that you're doing it yourself. That's another thing. There's like a psychosis to that, right? Like we weren't designed to look at screens and see people living their lives. You get what I'm saying? That actually exercises the brain to think that they're doing it too. It's really fascinating. Well, that actually translates well. If you're, you know, for however long we've been around, if you're looking out in a field and we're all gardening together in whatever permaculture setup we've managed to put together, and you see everyone's hustling, they're planting trees, they're pulling out weeds, they're adding compost, they're trucking something over in a wheelbarrow or whatever technology is available at the time. That is the imprint of, oh, we're all doing good shit together, right? And I'm a part of that because I'm in the field with them, right?

But the disconnect is absolutely there when you're looking through the black mirror because you're looking at something that you're not a part of. That's right. That's right. That's a really good point. When you're doing operational things

and movement things, and let's just say your feet and hands are in the dirt, you're getting that camaraderie and you're getting that energy that I'm part of something that's greater than me. And for me, I'm sure the same with you, that's the best feeling of all time. When you really get to that gnosis, I'm embodiment, but I'm also part of something that's bigger than me with a tribe. There's nothing better than that, that aha feeling. And I know you know that feeling. And there's a lot of people listening to this that aren't having that experience. And they think that they're in their permanence,

like this is it. That's an illusion. It will be permanent if you're not taking any action. And so get off your butt. If you're not feeling good, search for answers. The information's there too. That's another thing. So many people have been set up for instant gratification. It's just like we want that one pill fix, whatever it is. It could be a supplement, it could be this, it could be that. And I find it really fascinating because the alternative health community that's holistic is actually looking for allopathic solutions. Think about that. Just think about that.

I know what you're saying here, but break that down. What I mean is that they're training and looking like a symptom. Well, they want the answer. Yeah. Without doing the investigation, right? And so like, for example, on my social media, I don't, sometimes I come out with it straightforward on a solution. But 90% of the time, I'm just kind of like dropping a clue. So people can see that and then use their own discernment

and then take action and investigate and do their own little research and then come up to a conclusion. I want that behavior. Then just tell me how to do it, Chervin. Just tell me how to do it. Because that behavior is allopathic. Yeah. Just go, just doctor.

Fix me. Fix me. Yeah. No, that's not how it works. It's just like cramming for a test, right? You're going to study the night before, you'll ace the test, but three days later, you'll know none of those. Why? Because you didn't investigate it. Your heart wasn't in it. You're just trying to memorize it and get an answer. But if it's a subject that you love, you signed up for a course, it wasn't like some state-sponsored school where you had to go

sit there at 7 a.m. when you're 12 and listen to some bullshit, hit social studies or whatever. But it's something that you took like an art class or a philosophy class. You're in it to win it and to experience and to build your own faculties with it. It's the same thing with health. How come so many people that claim to be in the holistic community or alternative health community or outside of that and they know pharmaceutical industry is this or this or that, don't want to take the action of creating the internal bandwidth and building those streamlines of faculties, of learning and developing their own skill sets.

I get so many messages. How do I do this? How do I do that? I don't answer any of them. I'll never answer. I'll never open those messages, never. But once in a while, I'll notice someone that has done some investigation, has had some experience, has analyzed their situation, and has thoughtfully approached me through something that they've learned from me and given me basically the synopsis of their experience. Those are the messages that I open and engage with because they've done the work, they've done the research. And that's really important.

We talk about freedom. We talk about standing in our truth. We talk about operating with intention and all these beautiful things. Yet at the end of the day, when it comes to our very health, we don't want to do the work. That is a problem right now. And I'm not going to be part of that escapism whole chain.

I'm not doing it. There's enough escapism on social media right now. There's enough corporatocracies that have gotten their fingers and their magic and their spells into the game of taking people out of their reality and giving them, you know, food and drink and liquor and give them the sports, give them the football. You've seen enough of that. You've seen the, uh, the movie Wally. Of course. Right. Yeah.

It's funny. Cause it's like, oh man, I was, I remember watching that with bear when he was super young and I'm like, this is where we're headed. If, uh, if we don't, if we don't take control of ourselves, you know, it's funny. It was funny. It's like, that's where we're at. We're there. The difference is that we're on the Earth spaceship. We're not on some fucking other spaceship. The eighth sphere. Yeah.

We're in the realm. But that's exactly what's happening. Everything's fucking automated. Desensitizing everything. Social engineering. Losing bone mass. Getting fatter. We're not even, it's not even that we're not agrarian, you know, living off our own food.

But we're not even like now going to farmer's markets anymore. We're having door dash. That's what I meant. You're punching a button and then it shows up right to you. There's no effort whatsoever. And it's like, cool. How did that become cool? We're already in artificial boxes with artificial lighting,

artificial temperature gauging, all of that stuff. We're not in the elements. Just think about what's happening to our immunological response. We're not in the elements. Just think about what's happening to our immunological response. We're not in hormesis. We're not surviving. So there's no immune response to have to take on that action. Why do you jump in cold plunges? You jump in cold plunges because your body thinks it's about to die. Hypothermia is kicking in, right? And your body has to survive, right? So you keep doing that, all of a sudden that becomes flexible for you and it's a muscle memory, right? And so now when someone cuts you off on the freeway, you're not trying to kill them because it doesn't bother you

because you've built up that stress. All the stressors that people are feeling on a daily basis, that's taking a toll. We think that's just, stressful day. No, that adds up. You lose days on your volume of life and your health span and feeling good. Just like we talk about parasites and toxins and all these bacteria infections. Good. People are having common colds four times a year, five times a year. That's not common. Strep throat once a year is not common. That was me as a kid. Yeah, that was you because you had a fracture in your immune system, right? Strep throat once a year leads towards weird diseases, throat stuff, you know what I mean?

Like real crazy stuff. And think about it. You're sick three, four times a year for a week or that adds up. You're talking about two years of lost life, you know what I mean, of being sick. That's not normal. And so all of these things, they're accumulation of just not practicing self-love. At the end of the day, if you want self-love and you love yourself and you value your life in this incarnation, you're going to do the work,

especially if you're listening to this podcast. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, you touched on so many great points there. I think one of the things, one of the pitfalls for people that I'm sure you've experienced is the fact that because we're in the information age,

there's a counter to every argument, right? And you get like one side of the crew that says, this is a plant-based is the way to go. The other side that says only meat, you know, nose to tail, organ meat. And if you did some investigation, you might find like reading and how to move and be healthy. Oh, I'm a polar type. So I actually do better with more meat and less carby vegetables. And then somebody is more equatorial and they're like, no, I need carbs year round. And I don't do good on big game. I need like smaller animals. If I'm going to eat any, it's got to be fish or

chicken, something like that. Your own scientist, your own investigator. And that's the thing, your own investigator would lead you to that instead of just tapping out because there's arguments on both sides of the fucking coin. Absolutely. Again, that's a really valid point. And I think that's something that needs to be talked about more is that because of the polarizing isms that we're seeing online, everyone's telling you exactly what you said. Like, no, it's just straight meat. Everything's toxic out there. Or straight plant-based, or maybe you don't even eat. Maybe you're a breatharian.

I don't know, whatever it is. There's extremes all the way. All of them have value. And all of them can back it up with certain case studies, which they all kind of, they blur the lines though of what your current situation is.

I've read studies that show that all meat are carcinogenic in the body. That cause problems in the body. I've read studies that the opposite. So it's really partial and it's all about intention. You know what I mean? So like, how are you intending to use fuel in your everyday life? Like for example, coffee, right? You and I just had a coffee.

I rarely drink coffee, but this was a moment I was like, you know what? I'm going to get this drug in my body. I'm going to get a little bit activated and I'm about to go berserk with Kyle on the Kyle Kingsbury podcast, right? So that was an intention that I had.

And I've already taken my minerals. So I can mitigate the acids and the dehydration I'm going to get from that. I've taken all my stuff. So that's going to work for me. It's just really operating with intention. At the end of the day, everything we're talking about is,

are you taking your everyday unconscious? Are you eating unconscious? Are you talking to people unconscious? Are you living unconscious? Or do you have intention? I know you, whenever I'm around you, I really notice how intentional you are with everything that you're doing. I know that when you are eating and when you're talking to people, there's intention behind it. It's a level of self-respect that you have for

yourself. It's not just having respect for other people, it's your own self-respect. And that energy really, I would say, invigorates me. So anyone that's around that, that's what we need to be spreading, is that level of consciousness. How you do anything is how you do everything. And so if you're just all over the place and haywire, you really need to review your situation. And that's a Rosicrucian perspective as well. That's like the mystics.

They analyze their entire 24 hours. Before they go to sleep, they would review the entire day. And they'd look and see what patterns came up for me that took me out of my element. What areas did I excel in today? What relationships didn't really call my highest today? What could I have done differently here and there? Taking an account of your... That's discipline, right? And that's another practice of self-love. I think the more we do that, the better position we're going to be to live the best life ever. And again, you might not want to live the best life ever. So if you're hearing this and this is like, oh, I can't, I don't want to do any of that. Fine. That's your karma. You know what I mean? But again, if 10 years from now, two years from now, five years from now, you've hit rock bottom and you're asking why me, just remember listening to this conversation.

Yeah. I mean, you're touching on something so important too, from the Rosicrucian standpoint is self-reflection. And that was one of my biggest takeaways from dispelling Watiko. And I know Paul Levy has a new one out. I don't know if it's like the return of with Tico or the empire strikes back with Tico, whatever it is, is, is I'm sure it's more a deeper dive into the subject, but I, I, you know, as Paul wrote it and he explains that just in writing it, he had a deep dive with with Tico. We joked about it before this podcast. I fucking had my deepest dive ever with it when I was reading that book. That's why I've held off on reading the follow-up. I'm fucking good for now. But one of the major takeaways from that mind virus,

mind parasite, is self-reflection is the way you get rid of it. You can't see a vampire in the mirror. Self-reflection is what gets rid of it. So that's really it. Thinking deeply on that, how do I improve my life? It's what you talked about, the very first podcast we did. Momentum. Momentum is the thing that carries you forward. If you fucking fall off the wagon, momentum gets you back on the wagon. Momentum is what's going to keep you going through all the shit, whatever storm, whatever

fucking curveball life throws at you. Momentum carries you through that. And it's very small steps forward. I keep telling people, Fit for Service or even on the podcast, there's old football quotes that stick out in my mind. Inch by inch, life's a cinch. Yard by yard, life's hard. Right? So like just baby steps.

And it's continually making those baby steps in the right direction. That's right. They accumulate. I'm taking little boxes, not big boxes. I'm taking little boxes over and over again. And that's the shit that matters. Yeah. We always talk about that.

Your ability to transcend your own mess comes from the smallest of actions. And those are what create your avenue and vision of purpose and intention. It doesn't have to be this massive cataclysmic event. It could be. Those things are there. Those are those aha moments. But the just subtle changes that you're making in your life is what's going to put you in a position to feel good about yourself. And it's really the scientific method, right? It's reviewing and analyzing an experiment, right? And so an experiment can be anything, right? It could be like, okay, well, I'm not going to wake up at 9 a.m. anymore. I'm going to get up at 6.45 and I'm going to do 20 minutes of meditation. I'm going to drink clean water. I'm going to get a shower filter. I'm going to move my body on levels. And then from there, I'm going to maybe stop talking to two or three people that seem to

be bringing me down a little bit. And I'm going to invest that time into myself because I love myself. And then all of a sudden, you're 30 days in and you're starting to feel better. Your glimmer in your eye is there. Your energy is higher. Your skin looks a little bit more clear. And then from there, you're going to go and listen to this podcast. You know, you're going to listen to some of Kyle's podcasts.

And you're like, wait a second. That's a really interesting point. Let me try that out for my life. And then you're at day 45. And all of a sudden, you're in a completely different reality. It's just like that. It's not 10 years later. Two, three days, a week, a month,

and all of a sudden you're in a whole nother position. And that is choosing you over choosing the system. And that goes back to, I believe, the whole poverty conscious and victimhood and scarcity mentality, which are parasitic in nature. Those things are infesting the consciousness of humanity right now.

And that needing a savior outside of you is extremely dangerous. There's a fucking fantastic book that I just started called Not In His Image. Oh. Oh God, it's so fucking good. It's so good. I like that.

You gotta check that out. I'll link to it in the show notes. It's a fucking brilliant book. But yeah, they talk, one of the biggest proposals he has, because he connects the Gnostic argument with- Is that Christ? Yeah, the Gnosticism, right?

Yeah, yeah. They got swept under the rug from the Nagamati. And he connects that to the Gaia understanding of a living, energetic, breathing earth, right? Like he marries those two, with the ecological wisdom buried inherently in that as Sophia. of a living, energetic, breathing earth, right? And like marries those two, you know, with the ecological wisdom buried inherently in that as Sophia, that's the wisdom of Gaia, right? So like when we tap into that

and align ourselves to that, and that's something, I mean, Tasha has been telling me this for years as she withdrew from fundamental Christianity and some of the different, you know, this is the way that it is, savior style, you know, salvationist ideology. She really started to look at that. What are the real tangible things that we can connect to?

And that's when you farm or garden, even when you fucking garden, like you feel that connection. It's different. Like it's absolutely different. Like there's just a different feel, different connection you have to the weather. Like all my buddies bitching back home in California about the rain. I'm like, start a fucking farm, dude. You won't be crying about any of this. Totally. Right. We can fucking dance in the motherfucking rain and just clap my hands. Like, let's go, baby. Bring it back. Exactly. Right. That's the, that's like the true biology of belief. You, you create the perspective based on your, you know, the, the, the gnosis of what you know is, is real and what you need in your life versus some like, you know,

standard operating system that's been regurgitated through the public outcry. Where's our thinking coming from? Why are we having these reactions? Where did we learn this from? Is this from Hollyweird? Is this from the trauma as a child? How did we get into the position where we have a bias against things that might be polar opposite in its truth. So it's just like a radical change. And I love the idea of farming. And I think we talked about on the podcast we did over at the Onnit studio,

it was biodynamics had nothing to do with creating the most mineralized food. It really had to do, Steiner's perspective of anthroposophia, which is the study of the wisdom of man and its reflection to the outer world through the inner world gnosis of self was becoming a real steward of the land for a child. What that builds in the faculties of that child and ultimately through adulthood and is passed on through the wisdom keepers. And so a child that grows their own food, and we're just using farming as an example. There's many other methods, but I think farming, because it's a root system, literally, I would say is the nucleus of how to do this. But growing food, understanding cosmos, understanding crystals and herbs and waxing and waning of the moon and constellations and the sky clock and all that kind of stuff.

And how to work with the other animals. It's a deep dive. It's not a fucking small dive. It's a deep dive. It's a mystical dive that's rooted in common sense agriculture. And that frequency is about building the human being and becoming the steward and becoming the mystic and having reverence for the work. That's what it was all for. It's similar like Waldorf schools. At the basis of Waldorf, you're not indoctrinating a child by saying,

sit in this chair at 7.30 AM when you're nine years old and learn some indoctrination and you have to compete with every kid and you have to memorize this and pass this test. It's not that. It's not think for yourself. It's creating an incubator of growth, being a steward as a parent, but letting children to have their own thoughts and emotions and creation. Let them deal with arguments themselves. Let them have their own experiences. Let them build their own ethos through their soul's incarnation in the body. That's stewarding their own path. Yeah, they've created a, sorry to cut you off.

They've created this incredible container and it's about the container and everything that's within it. It's not memorize this fact. It's, hey, if we know, if we set this thing up in a certain way, the innate intelligent that's within it. It's not memorize this fact. It's, hey, if we know, if we set this thing up in a certain way, the innate intelligent that's within your being is going to come to shine.

And that's going to lead you to right where you're supposed to be, right? And you'll get your minimum effective dose of fucking two plus two equals four and whatever the shit you got to memorize. Of course, basic stuff. But beyond that, it's self-directed, right? And that's such an important piece

that we've lost now in the aramonic phase of life. There's nothing being self-directed now, unless you vehemently oppose what's being taught in school. Totally. Imagine society today that had gone through that level of childhood or that level of creation and growth versus the indoctrination schedule. Where would we be today? Where would we be as a race of people, right? Like where would we fall apart in cataclysmic fighting? Would there be this left-wing, right-wing battle? Would we be fighting for scraps? Would it be divide and conquer? I don't think so. I think we've been indoctrinated as children and we're generation lost. And people have no identity of themselves

because they were never properly allowed to create their own identity. They were taking on a systems identity. And that's representative on how they treat themselves and how there's no practice of self-love, no development. I think I always talk about on every interview, how many people in the world right now are actually operating and living in their soul's journey? How many? 5%, 2%, 1%, a decimal of a percentage? Most of humanity don't

even know where they are. That's a whole other thing. We won't go down that rabbit hole but just think about how crazy that is it's like we're in some big mass hysteria this is psychosis to the highest level most people don't even know what money is or what relationships are it's insane, we're in insane times but it's also the best ever

because that's why we can have these conversations and really have the wherewithal to realize this is all part of the cosmic joke. And that's how I operate because I know how dire we are, the situation and how dire it is. Some would say it's not even the 11th hour anymore. It's like 11th hour and 59 minutes. One, two, three, four, or almost at midnight. And I would say that creates a call to action.

And I love, if you're listening to this, you're probably on board with the message and you're out there in your community showing up. And so I just wanted to say thank you, Kyle. And thank you everyone out there for standing up for yourself because that takes the burden off the world. Yeah.

Yeah. It's so important. And that's, you know, one, I mean, we all give each other permission. We all strengthen one another. I remember right when the thing, and I've talked about this multiple times on this podcast, but how invigorating it was for me

when JP Sears said, I'm going to fucking go down swinging, but I'm going to swing. Right. I'd rather live on my feet and then die on my knees. Yeah, yeah. And he rolled the dice with his millions of followers and said, I'm going to speak the fucking truth. And it causes me to lose everything.

So be it. And as it turned out, there was quite a few people, quite a few more people that were interested in the truth than him living a lie. And that was just like, fuck man, that just pumped me up so much to be like, all right, let's have the interview with Mickey Willis. Let's have the interview with Del Bigtree. Let's fucking tell the truth. And if they shut down the podcast, they shut down the fucking podcast. If it gets pulled from YouTube, it gets pulled from YouTube.

Whatever happens, at least I lived on my feet. And so that's an important one for people. It doesn't mean you have to go running up to everybody. Ha, I told you you were wrong. Like none of that stuff, right? That's not going to solve anything. It's the embodiment. Yeah. It's the embodiment of that. And it is the thing that strengthens others, right? It's the thing that gets people to feed off something in a positive way. It's not about right or wrong. It's simply, it's the thing, like it's in the energetic field you were talking about.

There's a magnetism towards that, right? Because we understand there's sovereignty built into that. When you're doing your thing and you're speaking your truth and living your truth, that too bleeds off into everything around it. That's right. I respect that. I respect what you're doing.

I respect those two gentlemen as well. I know them both. And again, we can't dictate everyone's decision in this life. That's their karma. That's their soul's path. And people are going to make their own decisions and live out their lives. That's going to happen. I don't think the earth is going anywhere. There's just going to be, there's some serious changes happening right now and we're at a very pivotal moment. And so embodiment is really the key. The system is telling everyone what to do. It's telling them in a thousand different ways, almost subliminally at some point. They live. They live, exactly. So put your glasses on

and look in the mirror first. And be the embodiment. That's how you do it. I can sit there and tell everyone, this is how you got to do it. This is how you got to do it. But if I'm not practicing it myself, who the fuck am I?

It's like what Steiner says. He says, you can philosophize all you want and become a clairvoyant. But if you're not using your hands and feet in creating things, that muscle is not engaging, then you're just an idealist. And it's about putting action around things physically. So we got to start doing things. This world has become so crazy that people are becoming billionaires for not really doing anything. You know what I mean? If you look at Wall Street and that whole thing and all these different things, there's just so much things growing without actual anything happening. It's just scraping off other forms of economies and monies and things of that

nature. That's robbing the youth to want to be doing things and learning trades and learning how to excel in things that matter, as opposed to just this computer stuff and all these different things. Yeah. It's crazy hearing how many young folks are like, I'm going to be a YouTuber. I'm going to be an influencer. Yeah. And it's like, well, hopefully I hope to God that you do something in life that,

that, that proves your weight, that carries you. And that, that's the street cred that you take into being an influencer. There it is right there. Like if you fucking, that's it.

Be an influencer for something that you've created that is tangible and has helped your life and is helping people around you. Where it's become a pillar. That's what I'd love for you to teach that and use technology for that reason. That's how technology is amazing. Technology is

amazing because you can learn different things, you can see experiences, you can listen to podcasts, you can do all that kind of stuff. But that's where it should stop. It shouldn't stop by detonating your spirit and detonating the soul's path of becoming someone that's multidimensional in this life and can do all kinds of things. And just the metabolic switch,

that's really important. We talked about parasites and bacterial infections. These things are metabolic problems. They're causing, if you look at stuff like PCOS, polycystic ovarian syndrome, and all these different things, these are metabolic issues that are happening because of multiple reasons,

multiple breakdowns in the body. And the less we're moving, being sedentary, stagnation, is probably, I I would say one of the root causes of most disease is that we're not moving. It just keeps going back when I'm hearing about technology and DoorDash and all these different things. What the hell are we doing? Get outside, get moving, move the body, exhaust. That's the biggest form of detox. Everyone's talking, how do I detoxify? Move your fucking exhaust. That's the biggest form of detox. Everyone's talking,

shit, how do I detoxify? Move your fucking body. Yeah, that's it. You don't have to spend five grand on a sauna if you actually go outside and sweat. There you go. A sauna's dope, for sure. And passive sweating is different than active, but at the very least, get some active sweating going. Help your kidneys out. You know what I mean? Like get the lymph going. Get a Gua Sha that costs 20 bucks. You know, dig into your body. Roll around, roll on a ball. Get moving. Move your spine.

That's another thing. The thing you're talking about is self-care, right? Self-love. And it is self-love, right? It really is. Because I think about those things for a long time. When I finished fighting in 2014, if I was still rolling or doing jujitsu, I'd still did a lot of self-love. And then When I finished fighting in 2014, if I was still rolling or

doing jujitsu, I'd still did a lot of self-love. And then as I got here to Austin, I had my first 40-hour-a-week job working in corporate America. On it was dope, but it was still a corporate fucking setting. And if I could fit in a workout, I would, but I really backed off mobility. And then I just started thinking about that, like, oh man, this fucking old nagging thing or that thing. This is the first year where I've made a commitment to do some version of mobility every fucking day, no matter what. So even if it's the last thing that I have to do

after I read books to Baron Wolf and I go to lay down, I'm going to hit the super couch stretch. I'm going to get on my fucking little ball and dig into my saws and just breathe and open it up. And I sleep way better when I do that. It's a very small six minute box that I check, three minutes each leg. If I do that, my whole day's changed,

even if it's literally the last thing that I do, right? But like, that's the thing about making the box small enough that you can check it every day. It's like putting bumper lanes in for a kid. Like you're going to make sure you knock some pins down with the bumper lanes. That's making your box small. And then saying yes to fucking do that thing.

That's good for you. That's your self-love. Do you know what you're telling your subconscious by doing that? That you matter. That you have value. That you're worthy of it. That you care about yourself. Look at all these self-love coaches.

It's everywhere, right? You know, all this stuff. That right there is the biggest practice of self-love you can offer yourself. Is that you're actually saying, I'm worth 15 minutes of, maybe it's not as comfortable as it should be. I'm worth it. I'm going to put myself through it. So if you're listening to this, ask yourself, what are you doing for yourself to tell your subconscious that you're worth it? Thank you for sharing that. Yeah, absolutely, bro.

Yeah, yeah. I love that. I'm getting into squats all day long. If I'm just standing there on calls, because I'm grinding. Like Aaron Alexander, just touching his balls to the floor. There you go. Like Aaron. Hopefully we see him.

He's got the best fucking squat of all time. He's down in it, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's always in it. Doesn't matter where he's at. At the airport, I'm doing it. People are looking at me like, what the hell is wrong with this guy?

It's like, we got it. This is self-love. These are things that I know deep down in my head or in my heart or in every cell of my body. This is good for me. This is going to help me with sitting on a plane for three hours. This is going to help me when I go to sleep at night.

I'm going to wake up less sore. It's going to help me with sitting on a plane for three hours. This is going to help me when I go to sleep at night. I'm going to wake up less sore. It's going to give me more mobility. It's going to probably get more nutrition to my brain, right? That's a whole other thing we can get into probably on another podcast. I've been going into, you know, Mike Salemi has been helping me with the Aldo. Hell yeah. And I had an Aldo trainer come to my house and all that stuff. And my God, he was putting me in situations that I wanted to kill him.

I've never been so uncomfortable in my entire freaking life. And he's like, keep pushing, keep pushing. And I'm on the ground. Every part of my nervous system is being stretched from toe to the top of my head. I can feel it ripping everywhere. He's like, yeah, keep going, keep going, keep going. Pelvic to pelvic floor. keep going, keep going. I want to kill him, I want to kill him.

I'm blacking out. And he's like, okay, stand up. I stand up and I never felt more in my body. And I break down in the most craziest cry ever. Emotionally, just everything coming out of me. And I'm standing there looking at the mirror and I can kind of see him next to me with just kind of a grin on his face. And I'm like, I'm like, Chervin, this is the epitome of loving yourself. And I was getting so emotional and trauma that had been

stored where God knows what vertebrae or wherever my body was coming out. All of a sudden I was feeling my father. And I remember my dad had a sore neck. And all of a sudden, that image popped in my head. And I'm gushing tears for like three, four minutes down in my gym area. And it was just like, this is it. This is it. I didn't need a drug. I didn't need to go to the jungles. I didn't need to go. It was right there for me the whole time. And that is accessible for everyone. Everyone out there can have that. And LDOAs are, I mean, they're not a stretch. It's stretching on steroids, whatever you want to do to magnify, whatever analogy you want to use, that's in a league of its own. Mike

put me through one and on it back in the day. And same thing, twisting, winding the fascia up, fingers down, palms out, breathing, breathing, breathing, feet on the wall. Feet on the wall. And I got up and I had a meeting right after. And I was like, I can't fucking go. And he's like, are you okay? And I was like, I just need to lay here for a minute.

I was like, can you run into La Brea? I can't make it. And then finally I got up and I went in there and I had a fucking just full body sweat. And I just like, I'm going to lay down. And he's like, all right, he could tell. Jard something loose. So absolutely jarred something loose. I saw purple with my eyes open. I'm just like, I'm going to lay down. And he's like, all right, he could tell, you know, so absolutely jarred.

So I saw purple with my eyes open. I could see purple everywhere. I looked, I was like that. I don't know if I unlocked something left over, left over L. Something got jarred loose for sure in the spine. But yeah,

I mean, and that, that is, you talk about something that it's like, you know, it's not, it's not fun. The last three minutes of a hot sauna, you know, that it's like, you know, it's not fun the last three minutes of a hot sauna. You know, when you're like, all right, I got 20 minutes.

From fucking 17 minutes on, like it's work. It's not fun in a 32, 33, 34 degree ice bath. That's right. Right? It's fun after when I get out and I get the fucking rush of neurochemistry and I'm like, I fucking did it. Fuck yeah, right? But there's pieces that aren't fun that we knowingly say yes to.

Like the Aldoa fucking sucks. Yeah, right? But there's pieces that aren't fun that we knowingly say yes to. Like the Aldoa fucking sucks. And then when you're done, you're like, holy shit, you feel a thank you from every cell in your body. And that's why I picked the super couch stretch. I'm sitting all day long, sitting when I drive,

sitting when I do all this stuff. Even on the farm, we're pulling weeds. I'm on all fours. The hip flexors are cocked. The psoas is shrinking. And then I get into all fours. You know, like the hip flexors are cocked. The psoas is shrinking, you know? And then I get into that super couch stretch and it's like the least fun. But as I'm doing that, I'm breathing into the space. I'm opening my body.

I'm relaxing into the stretch. And after that, there's a fucking rush. It's like, holy shit, that was worth it, right? Then when I run, then when I box, then when I play with the kids, anything that I'm doing outside of that, I've now become a bit more supple. I've now become a bit more resistant to whatever the daily shit is going to be.

Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, I love that you're doing all that for yourself. And that practice of self-love is priceless. And you're setting yourself up for success over the next 40, 50, 60 years, right? As opposed to getting aromantic and calcified and fibrotic. Look at all the people with bone issues, all that stuff. That's because of lack of mobility and lack of nutrition going to those areas of the body, which ultimately is lack of oxygen, right? Which is really important to understand is that if you're not getting circuitry moving and blood flowing and nutrition going down your spine,

cerebral spinal fluid pumping properly, all of these things, then you're having problems with your entire endocrine system and your electrical system in the body. We're electrical before we're chemical. Your heart's beating on an electrical impulse. And so we have to have constant movement in the body.

We weren't designed to be sitting here. We were designed to be out in the trees, climbing, digging holes, moving in front of, in the elements. That's our natural survival pathways for immunological systems, sirtuin pathways. I mean, we can get into all the NAD and all that kind of stuff,

but ultimately NAD and all that stuff is produced by taking action in our environment, right? And so, yeah, we can supplement with these things. Fantastic. We're in that level of tech, but you got to get moving. You got to get activated. These are, and it all works out. You know, your ability to be regular, moving waste out of the body is built upon that.

It's interesting. So many people are constipated. They don't have that peritalsis, that movement is not happening because of their lack of mobility. Another thing is the glymphatic system. Most people know what the lymphatic system is, but the glymphatic system is the garbage disposal system of the brain. And we're hitting record numbers right now with neurodegenerative diseases from Parkinson's to ALS to dementia. I mean, all of it. Really at the end of the day, what is it? I mean, yeah, there could be some genetics involved, but it's basically accumulation of waste and acids in the brain because of a lifetime of not sleeping properly and not having that

glymphatic system being able to pulse. And if you're not moving and breathing and exercising, that's not going to trigger a healthy sleep. It's really simple at the end of the day. All the things that we talk about, they all kind of mirror off each other and it's not one thing and not the other. They're all related. Being stuck with a mountain of infections in your body is obviously going to dysregulate your sleep. It's obviously going to start attacking your central nervous system. Why does the Lyme, the Borrelia spirochete attack the central nervous system? Because that's where all the nutrition is. They want to go after the myelin. It's interesting that I had my appendix rupture in 2010. It almost killed me. The appendix rupture, surfing incident, car. And I started doing more research and the medical

system says, oh, you don't need the appendix. But it's another form of cleansing in the body. And what happens to appendixes, I was reading some studies, they take appendixes out of people that have an appendicitis and they do an analysis of it and they see it's loaded with parasites. No shit. Yeah. That's really interesting. There's case studies on that. see it's loaded with parasites. No shit. Yeah. That's really interesting. There's case studies on that. So it's like, okay, well, why is it going into the appendix?

The more we understand it, the parasites are smart. They want to embed in areas that it's hard to get to, right? Because that's just part of their system, part of their technology, part of their information and how they work and operate. And central nervous system, they love the brain. They love the spinal cord. Toxoplasmosis or Toxoplasma gondii, I think we talked about that, the cat parasite. Really intelligent parasite. We know that that parasite's always trying to get back to the host.

And so they know that rats have toxoplasmosis and they start chasing cats so the cat can eat it. And so the parasite can get back into the host. How crazy is that? And the studies are out or they're indicative that one-third of the population have toxoplasmosis. One-third? What? Not 2%. It's a lot of people. One third. One third. That's crazy. Just research it.

And what does it do in the human body? Well, it makes you promiscuous. So you're still chasing pussy. Oh, God. That was a layup, buddy. That was a layup. I was testing you on that one. That was the best ever. I'm right here with you. That was a layup. I was testing you on that one. That was the best ever.

I'm right here with you. That was the best ever. But it makes you irrational, right? Like that's another thing. Some kind of attack on the central nervous system and your thoughts and your access to reason or logic, and you kind of throw all that out the window. Very, very fascinating.

It's like an addictive behavior. Like it might spawn like gambling or compulsive. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes, sir. Absolutely. Yeah. Okay. And so that's just giving you an example

of what we're dealing with here and why we have to take the steps to bolster our immune system. It's not to become a hypochondriac and be scared of everything, right? We're going to be exposed to things, touching people, touching doorknobs, all these different things. There's things out there. I'm still going to walk barefoot. You're still going to walk it. So am I. Yeah, totally. But I'm going to use a little bit

of discernment. Am I going to walk barefoot in the dog park? Probably not, okay? I don't do that, right? Am I going to walk barefoot on the beach? Yeah, of course. Am I going to walk barefoot in the forest? Of course. You know, in my backyard? Yeah, of course. But just a level of awareness and then also, you know, taking the steps to lower and mitigate the stress in your life.

All of that plays its part to perfection. Yeah, that's such a big one. And speaking to everything that we've spoken to before, sometimes the best way to lower the stress is to go fucking head first into the storm. It's by engaging in something that's acutely stressful that has a hormetic response that allows us then to adapt and deal with the bigger stressors

or just the everyday stressors that can be insurmountable at times. It just quiets the storm. Like, can I step into the eye of a hurricane when I get in an ice bath? What does that actually mean? That means I'm going to slow my breath. It's the first thing I'm doing is.

And the faster I find that space, the easier it is for me to find that space when, holy shit, my wife's mad at me. What happened? And not just engage, you know, like, what? In super defense mode. Reactive, yeah. Yeah, reactive.

But just be like, oh, okay, let me find that center again. Oh, there I super defense mode. Reactive, yeah. Yeah, reactive, but just be like, oh, okay, let me find that center again. Oh, there I am. What happened? Oh, okay, shit, I'm sorry for that. Or whatever the thing is, let's find the solution, right? Instead of a fight breaking out because now I'm in defense mode, I'm triggered and it's fucking game on, right?

Which doesn't do anything. It doesn't serve anyone. Non-violent communication, ego, all of those things, they all play its part to how we react to things. It's so easy to just want to unleash on someone. I've noticed it within myself sometimes. I remember when I was a hothead somewhat and I would get triggered easily, almost looking to get triggered. I had to do a lot of inner work for that to calm that and realize where is that coming from? I realized that it was my ego. I couldn't be second guest or I couldn't be this or that. And that took time for me to work on that and create avenues for me to be able to be expressive to myself on how to let go of that. And let me tell you, how far I've come over the last 10 years on that

has changed my life. I wouldn't have been able to create all this and be in this. I used to be a hothead. 2007, 2008, I was a guy looking for fights. I thought I was Robin Hood of types, but I had that kind of energy. And so that was not serving me. That was exhausting. Yeah. And you can't be in the position that you're in where

you are a real influencer and you're doing real shit in the world. Because as a trailblazer, as Paul says, says, check says, trailblazers take a lot of arrows. Absolutely. Right? We're going to take arrows. Yeah, we're going to take arrows. Of course. Like understanding that coming from your quiet center is going to be able to handle, we're going to take arrows. Like understanding that coming from your quiet center is going to be able to handle those arrows a lot better than if you're already fucking chomping at the bit for someone to fucking reach out to you online and shit on you. You know, like you're just waiting on it.

Yeah, yeah. There's just too many. That's just too many. Death by a thousand razor cuts, right? No way. I'm not going to live that life. And you're on it. It's really interesting to see yourself in that state

and look at it from a different vantage point and talk to the child of you, because it's really a childhood behavior. A child sometimes can't process feelings and really sit back and observe and understand what's happening in the situation where it doesn't have to turn into a cataclysmic fight or breakout. And that's really what this whole system's about. Wars and all these things, taking orders from someone above to go kill 100 people. It's like, what? Where's the love in that? Where is the humanity in that? And that's really just a cataclysmic breakdown of ego and scarcity mentality. Not only should we succeed,

but you must fail in the process too so we can have leverage over you, right? Schmachtenberger talks about that game A is built upon win-loss metrics. Yeah, totally. Right, that's it. That's it. And that's not utopia.

That's not harmony. That's not building long-lasting, rich lives that are built on empathy and beauty and creating more discovery. Win-win. Win-win. That's why we all need to be winning together. There's no hierarchy here.

I don't feel hierarchy from you. I don't feel hierarchy from you. I don't feel hierarchy from anyone that's operating with intention and is living the embodiment. The most people that I feel the hierarchy from are people that are more intellectual and not actually doing the work. And they just kind of know certain things and certain- Less embodied though. Less embodied. And their shield is hierarchy. You know, that's just kind of, that's how that works.

And I've seen that. And the reason why I see it is because I saw it in myself when I was 24, 25, 26. I remember that I had a lot of judgment and I had a lot of opinions. You know, I was mentored early and I had a lot of amazing teachers and I thought I knew everything.

And I noticed that without the actual embodiment of these practices and just me just ramping off telling people what they're doing wrong, it created an energy around me that I had to protect. And that wasn't working. And after a lot of work and a lot of medicine and a lot of experience and a lot of self-reflection, I was able to rip that part and actually put it somewhere else. lot of work and a lot of medicine and a lot of experience and a lot of self-reflection, was able to rip that part and actually put it somewhere else and create a new butterfly. And it's an amazing process. And I think everyone has access to those tools. And it's for your own

good. Yeah. As hard as it is. Yeah, it's hard, but it's for your own good. Having judgment is the root of fear. Judgment is always based on fear. We're getting into lexicon and how these words work, but discernment is really taking the experience in and making the best decision based on an observation of deep inner work versus an immediate reaction. And that's how we can expand our business. That's how we can expand our love life. That's how we can expand our friendships and our tribe. I think that's how you and I have connected so deeply. We're not in each other's lives on an everyday basis, but I haven't seen you in a year or whatever it's been, nine months. And the last time I saw you, I hadn't seen you in a year or whatever it's been, nine months. And the last time I saw you,

I hadn't seen you in nine months or whatever. But it's almost like you and I talk every single day. That's how I feel around you, right? And I have that with a certain group of people, that same energy. It's because my walls are down with you. I don't have a wall. It's impossible for me to feel any other way except freedom and sovereignty

from a bond of man to man, the love that I have with you. And that right there is really important to have that with your brothers and sisters. That's what family is all about. It's unconditional love and knowing when to share something to help a situation and when you're being asked upon to help in a situation. And that's what bonding is all about.

And that's why we do the medicine. That's what it's all about. Yeah. Yeah, of course. And that's totally likewise too. I think what allows that too to work, if I was to try to figure out, why is that true? I never have to worry about what you're doing. I know you're fucking doing the thing and I know you're fucking as busy as can be, but I also know you're not just grinding on symbiotic

or grinding on work life, that you're grounded in reality and you're doing your own personal work. And every time I get a fucking text from your call,'m like fuck yeah dude let's go they're like oh shit it has been like six months yeah so you know i'm doing the same thing right i'm building this or i'm doing that and i've got the fucking two kids and you know like it's all it's it's a lot and at the same time uh neither one of us sacrifices our dedication to our own improvement, our dedication to our own groundedness, and our dedication to our own healing. Anytime I hook up with you, I'm like, what's fucking dope and what's new in your life?

Because I know there's something new and I know it's dope. I love that, brother. Thank you for that beautiful reflection. just want to say that we're having this conversation in Austin on your birthday, on your born day, which falls on the 24-hour post-Persian New Year, which is the spring equinox, which is the true New Year, not this Gregorian calendar bullshit. This is the true New Year, right? This is the awakening of the internal slumber. And so that's powerful that your born day falls right in that point of this sky clock on this earth, in this realm.

And it's an honor to be able to have this reflection with you on the turn of the internal slumber that's going out towards the creative energy. Because in the Persian tradition, our equinox, our new year, the spring equinox represents the time that you engage in the alchemy of fire. And fire is the alchemy that turns matter into dust. It puts it into another realm. And so we are metaphorically going into the fire to purge and cleanse all that does not serve us to make way for the new sowing of the seeds,

for the new soil, for the new energy and the new life. And it's awesome that your born day falls right in that cosmic development. And that's epic that we're having this conversation on that right now, as I'm viewing the landscape of Austin in this rainy, misty day. It's really epic.

We're living in some kind of morphogenic field. This is a simulation, not machine simulation, more of just some kind of creationism. This isn't random. Our lives are not random. And so it's epic to be doing this.

There's a divine intelligence, no doubt. You know, intelligent design to the whole thing. I feel that, brother. 100%.

Well, it's been fucking awesome having you on. We didn't take a deep dive into Paranx. Let's drop some knowledge on that because it's very important. I mean,

remember you were telling me about this a long time before it came out and I was like, this is obviously just, you know, you work with people when like, yeah, I can figure out so many things through health questionnaires and I'm like, ah, it's pretty fucking clear to me that you've got either a massive candida overgrowth or parasites or a combination of the two. Like this, it's not going to be solved without actually

doing head on with this thing. That's right. You's so many parasite cleanses out there. I've been part of so many in my life. All of our stewards and mentors are all about cleansing. I'm about cleansing. There's different ways to detoxify. We wanted to create something that wasn't a cleanse per se, but an immunological modulator, meaning that it was going to bolster your immune system so you're not working at a deficit for your entire life. And that was really key when it comes to co-infections and things like that. So this has never been done before. We're entering a whole new space in terms of nutraceuticals and technology and all those things.

This is two years in the making. These are liquid capsules with microbead delayed release technology. It looks fancy as fuck. It's very fancy. It's got a flavor to it. I was like, how do you get the capsule's flavor? That's a whole... Organoleptics.

That's something that we wanted to bring to Symbiotica so you can have an actual experience. There's something to that. Smell is powerful. The sensory of smell and flavor is huge. It activates you. It makes you want to keep going back to it. So that energy is there.

And it's all done through its own organic state. So it's not like some kind of masking system. And you have powerful, powerful oils in here at high, high purity levels. Unlike anything you can find out in the open market, combination of oregano, thyme, clove, monolaurin, full olive fruit extract. And those are ozonated as well, right? Triple pass ozone. Yeah, talk a little bit about that.

So ozone is unstable oxygen, O3, and then there's more carbon links attached to it. And so what happens is when, it's kind of how, so this is herbal medicine. This is, I'll get into it. There's biblical stuff in here. You have atmospheric in the ozone. The earth cleanses itself through the technology of ozone. That's how it cleans the atmosphere and things like that. So we now know through advanced science

and all the different strategies and modalities that ozone is a very powerful treatment for the human body. Unstable oxygen is a heavier oxygen molecule. And once it gets into the body, if you're doing like direct IV or insufflation, whatever it is, ultimately it converts into hydrogen peroxide. And that conversion then makes it active to destroy things that shouldn't be in the body, like pathogens and stuff like that. It actually detonates the cell walls of these critters and things like that. So this formula, you got that oil and then it's been triple passed ozone.

So you're getting all of that into the gut. And then you have the microbeads in there and there's 40 compounds in there. I'll tell you a couple of them. One of the main ones in there, which is my favorite, is caffeic acid, phenethyl ester, CAPE. And it's the main polyphenol compound

that's found in bee propolis. Right when you told me that, I was like, get the fuck out of here. That's so rad. Crazy stuff we're dealing with. No one's doing this out there. And I'd like to think that the Symbiotica family and the team of really putting this together and working hard with me to make this happen. Caffeic acid, phenethyl ester is what mother nature designed to protect the hive. Just think about

that. And what does the hive and the bees represent to us? Life. Without pollination, where would we be today? Yeah. Paul calls them the sex organs of mother earth. That's right. They are the sex organs. They're the converter, they're the alchemists, the master alchemists. Steiner, his whole bee lectures, if you drop into that, if you're listening to this- You got to please send me some. Oh, I'll put them in the show notes if I can, but I want to chew up anything you send me from Steiner. Oh my God.

His B lectures are so full of like so many wisdom awakenings within, because it's all internal awareness that we already know. So it's not like, you know, some curriculum. It's like, oh, okay. I remember that from 10,000 years ago. And so the caffeic acid has crazy peer-reviewed published studies on its antiviral, anti-carcinogenic, antimicrobial, anti-parasitic qualities that are insane. And then other stuff that has nothing to even do with those things. Other things from neuroprotective to cardiovascular to reproductive,

it's insane. There's luteolin in there. There's artemisia in there. There's skullcap in there. And we're not taking the weeds and seeds, meaning the actual biomass and just shearing it. We're taking the active compounds within those herbs. That's what's in there. So you're not just stuffing yourself with biomass. It's actually, you're just taking the main active compounds. You're getting a really powerful, powerful load of compounds in there that are bolstering the immune system. And also, it's bolstering the immune system by lowering the loads in the body. So it's taking the immune system and saying,

hey, look, time out. We got this. Okay, go focus on something else. Go do apoptosis over there. Go work on your Krebs cycling. Natural killer cell, go over there. You get what I'm saying? Yeah. That was the concept behind it. I didn't want to blow people out through cleansing. I wanted to create systems in there that help bolster that. That along with our new inflammatory health

formula, it's just like, game on. We're really helping people and I'm excited for what's coming. Fuck yeah, brother. I'm excited for what's coming too. It's just like, game on. Like, we're really helping people and I'm excited for what's coming. Fuck yeah, brother. I'm excited for what's coming too. It's dope to be on the ride with you, brother. Of course, man. It's just beginning, dude.

Fuck yeah. This is our time. Well, I'll link to Wake the Fake Up with the podcast that you just did with David was fucking excellent. I'll link to that

in the show notes and people can check out your podcast. We got to get you back on. You're firing back up again, right? We got to get you back on. You know, my up again, right? We got to get you back on. My whole thing with Wake the Fake Up is it's just like this. It's just having happy conversations. It really is. It's not telling long-winded life stories and all that kind of stuff. It's just like, hey, what's going on in your world right now that's

consuming your energy and you're really stoked on? That's what it is. It's very similar with what we're doing right now. And I can't wait to have you back on, man. Yeah, brother. Absolutely. We're not here to wake up the sheep. We're here to wake up the lions. Yeah, buddy. Sleeping lions. That's right, one of my favorites. Love you, brother. Love you too, man. Happy birthday. No, thank you.