Kyle Kingsbury Podcast - #303 Tuning Your Nervous System w/ Justin Frandson

Episode Date: May 19, 2023

Justin Frandson is a new face to the pod, but as always I already have an amazing connection with him through our dear brother Cal Callahan. Justin was an athlete in high school and still balls out whenever he can. His love for athletics and an article by Dean Brittenham at Scripps Clinic, La Jolla California got him into the idea of stacking the many different athletic components of physical, mental, energetics. This stack known as, Athleticism Neuro Stacking, brings the health of our nervous system into the equation to increase performance instantly.  In this convo Justin takes us through his journey, to his book, “Athleticism”, some of the science behind his approach to athletic performance optimization, and we even get into the f*ckery behind EMF’s, 5+G and really treating your nervous system with the utmost care. As always, listen up, enjoy, and share it with a friend!   ORGANIFI GIVEAWAY Keep those reviews coming in! Please drop a dope review and include your IG/Twitter handle and we’ll get together for some Organifi even faster moving forward.   Connect with Justin: Website: Athleticism.com  Instagram: @athleticismneurostacking    Show Notes: "Deep Survival" -Laurence Gonzales  John Vervaeke YouTube  The Great Unlearn #96 w/ Del Bigtree Spotify Apple   "The Invisible Rainbow" -Arthur Firstenberg “The Kybalion” -The Three Initiates Amazon Free Online Audio   Pose Method for Running Living 4D #240 Robb Wolf: The Big Picture Spotify Apple   The Creepy Line(doc) The Dimming(doc)     Sponsors: Ra Optics Better sleep, more melatonin, blue blocking… These guys and Matt Maruka are the best around when it comes to blue blocking glasses that look sharp. Head to RaOptics.com and use code “KKP” at checkout for 10% off.  Organifi Go to organifi.com/kkp to get my favorite way to easily get the most potent blend of high vibration fruits, veggies and other goodies into your diet! Click that link and use code “KKP” at checkout for 20% off your order! PaleoValley Some of the best and highest quality goodies I personally get into are available at paleovalley.com, punch in code “KYLE” at checkout and get 15% off everything! Bioptimizers To get the ’Magnesium Breakthrough‘ deal exclusively for fans of the podcast, click the link below and use code word “KINGSBU10” for an additional 10% off. magbreakthrough.com/kingsbu  To Work With Kyle Kingsbury Podcast   Connect with Kyle: Fit For Service Academy App: Fit For Service App  Instagram: @livingwiththekingsburys - @gardenersofeden.earth  Odysee: odysee.com/@KyleKingsburypod  Youtube: Kyle Kingbury Podcast  Kyles website: www.kingsbu.com - Gardeners of Eden site    Like and subscribe to the podcast anywhere you can find podcasts. Leave a 5-star review and let me know what resonates or doesn’t.

Welcome back to the show, everybody. Oh, big morning stretch. I'm out in Livingston, Montana right now doing the intro for our dude, Justin Franson, who I just got to record with last week out at the farm. Justin was introduced to me from my boy, Cal, who's been on the podcast. John Callahan has been on the podcast host of the great unlearn who's fantastic.

Uh, talk about a bit about him on the podcast with Justin. Um, I kind of feel short changed in the fact that I get to spend an hour and a half with Justin, uh, prior to the podcast, really getting a deep dive into his work and truly a total nervous system reset and recalibration. And I could feel that and how my body was operating just unlocked. It was pretty fucking rad. And kind of a microdose of him from a podcast perspective. I feel like we're playing just the

tip and on many topics we cover a very wide range of topics on this podcast in the hour that we are with each other um wouldn't it change the way we set it up though because i really needed experience his medicine to fully understand uh uh everything that he's learned and everything that he's pieced together. And it's pretty cool because he's come from a lot of different backgrounds in terms of mentorship and people he's learned from to piece together what he has. And unlike most guests, because Cal handed him to me, I didn't have a chance to read his book before diving into the podcast with him.

So it really did help me to understand everything that he's into via our session together. But I'm very excited to dive into his book because of the fact that I will be able to unpack more of what he's been disseminating and really putting into alchemy over the last 30 years. And he's brilliant. He's absolutely brilliant. He's pretty switched on about all the shit in the world as well. So that was cool. Just a fantastic dude. And lives out in Laguna.

Does a lot of free diving diving surfing in his spare time but a tremendous athlete and he's got ten years on me and moves and operates like he's 20 so that's really good because as a older retired guy sports wise at least that's something that I want for myself it's something I don't want to just fucking shrivel away and complain about old injuries the rest of my life i want to be able to operate and feel my best i made uh an intention a couple years ago that i want to be the best athlete that i can right now it doesn't mean being in fight shape it doesn't mean uh trying to make a comeback or any of that kind of shit i certainly don't want to get punched in the face again at least not you know at a professional level i do like uh sparring on

occasion with some of the other old old-timers like tim kennedy and um just keeping the sword sharp but i have no intention of getting rocked by a pro in his prime that's for damn sure i think uh one one fight with glover was enough uh one eight-year span with kane dc and luke rockhold was enough but at the same time um i do want to move and operate well and i can see that in justin and i could feel it viscerally from the tune-up that i got from him so he's's on to some really cool shit. I think it can help a lot of people, whether you're a former pro athlete or not, whether you're out of shape.

I mean, in many ways, I'm out of shape for my own standards right now. Pretty much since I went to Sultara, I ate so many fucking carbs during ayahuasca. It was the first time I've ever done ayahuasca and actually gained weight. And I've really, in large part, kept it on since then. I'm hovering about 237 right now.

And I like to be about 225. That's my goal weight. So I'll keep chipping away at that. Dropping the carbs, getting down low. But now I'm just rambling here, staring out my fucking back window. I'm in a yurt right now in Livingston and I'm surrounded by mountains. I saw, uh, can't tell if I've mentioned this already, but I woke up and I was walking to the pisser and I saw an awesome mama or mama Fox and two cubs at about 30 yards. And she was looking looking at me but she wasn't running and they were just playing and hovering around i don't know if they're around their their den

or foxhole or whatever i don't know shit about foxes the first time i've ever seen one in my life they're incredible and we found fresh bear tracks and all sorts of cool shit out here so there's a beautiful river maybe 50 yards behind the yurt that I am quite enticed to get into, but it's moving pretty fucking fast. So I want to be cautious of that. I'm listening to a book right now called Deep Survival that Dr. Romanoff introed me to. Let me pull this up. Deep Survival is by Lawrence Gonzalez and it's a fantastic listen, I've done a lot of survival books

in the last three years James Wesley Rowles I've been deep diving a lot of his work obviously my boy Clay Martin I think Clay Martin's the best at it because he's so fucking funny and you need that levity when you're discussing the end

of the world. I think it's really important that there's humor involved because it kind of breaks through it. But deep survival from Lawrence Gonzalez is a completely different approach to it. He's looking at like why some people can survive harrowing moments and some people don't. The neuroscience, the psychology, he's looking at all of that. And it's a much different perspective on surviving actually in the moment. It's not an apocalyptic view of the world or any of that stuff. And it's just a whole new angle on what determines someone living through a harrowing experience and what determines someone dying. And it's really fascinating, but looking at that river moving as fast as it is and judging that

it's probably pretty fucking cold. Uh, I think I'm going to take a buddy with me, but I, but it is fucking calling me. God damn it. It's calling me. So any who, uh, enjoy this podcast with Justin Franson. If you're on the outside looking in and you're like, fuck man, I want to go to Montana. I want to go to Sedona. I want to do all this shit with fit for service, go to fit for service.com, fill out an application. And we are, we have a wait list now, obviously, cause we're doing our whole year long program. Um, get in. And when you get in, sign up, do the damn thing. Don't hold back. Don't make excuses. A lot of people get in and they're like, well, you know, I'm not sure. And

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which is some of the deepest dive into how we relate with one another and communicate with one another that I've ever been a part of. And of course, you can, you know, we'll link to, I'll link to John Vervaeke's work actually in the show notes. Jose, please do. His YouTube channel is fucking phenomenal. I'm just starting to deep dive that.

Would love to get Vervaeke on the podcast. So I'll make a point of that since I'm with him here. And he, of course, has been on Aubrey Marcus' podcast. They're going to record another one here while they're here, so definitely check those out. There's a number of ways you can support this podcast. First and foremost, share it with somebody who you think is interested. Share it with somebody that you know is interested,

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save 10% without further ado my brother Justin Franson. Justin Franson welcome to the podcast brother. Kyle thank you so much for having me on it's a pleasure. Oh this is so good I was just was just saying beforehand how much I love our brother Cal, John Callahan. And, you know, I've had the privilege of introducing him to some amazing people, and he's done the same. Every time he's introed me to somebody, I'm like, fucking all ears. Let's go. Let's go.

Cal is the man. Yeah, Cal's incredible. So he was having you on his podcast, The Great Unlearned, which I highly recommend people listen to. It's go. Cal is the man. Yeah, Cal's incredible. So he was having you on his podcast, The Great Unlearned, which I highly recommend people listen to. It's phenomenal. One of my favorite all-time, I'll link to it in the show notes, is a podcast he did not so long ago with Del Bigtree that was just awesome because it really speaks to the victories

that have happened over the last few years that Del's been diving into pretty quietly, unfortunately. But those wins are happening, and Cal had just a fucking beautiful podcast with him, so I'll link to that so that way you guys can have something to chew on from The Great Unlearned. Thank you to our brother Cal for introing us, because this has been incredible. We've spent the last hour and a half diving deep into the body, and my show has a typical arc of what was life like growing up, and how did you become the person that you are today? So let's start there, and then we'll

continue to dive into some of the stuff that we just got into. Right on. Well, I was an athlete growing up, two sport, four-year varsity in high school. That was about as far as I got. I got injured and couldn't play tennis at the next level. So tennis was your love, not basketball. Tennis. I got into basketball when my wrist gave out playing tennis and just fell in love with it. So after through basically 20 to 40-ish, started balling it up. Damn, that's crazy.

You got into basketball then. You played, I'm sure, when you were younger, but tennis was the main one. Tennis was the main one. Wanted to make athletes better athletes. Wanted to help people get to that D1 or pro status that I should have been at, that I felt I should have, but I just got hurt. And so got into athletics and found an incredible mentor, Dean Brittenham.

Started the Shiley Elite Athleticism Program at Shiley Pavilion Scripps Clinic. And he was making athletes better athletes, doing stuff no one was doing. It was during the era that Paul Cech was working with some pro golfers and such. And so the two of us were the ones, and Egoscue had his stretching, Cech had his muscle rehab. We had our speed drills, strength drills,

coordination, ambidexterity stuff. We had David Weck, the founder of the Bosu Ball, in there, Steve Cotter, Kettlebells. So we're bringing in stuff that no one had seen. Dean's going, yeah, this is what you do, David Weck, with your ball. Let me show you what to do with it. And David's like, this is insane. And so then it got into every NBA training facility, and now it's in pretty much every gym to speak of right now.

So we had a fun roll-up with athleticism. So you guys were working on a lot of the eye stuff, like with throwing the balls and catching that hand-eye coordination and things like that. When I was 17, I went to the Rikers Center in Menlo Park, and they were fucking next-level, state-of-the-art. They shaved, like, three-tenths off my 40. They did a bunch of shit for me that was really cool.

But that's one of the things that they were doing. I was watching other athletes do that, and I wasn't in fighting yet. It was just football, and as a D lineman, it wasn't that necessary that I spend the short amount of time that I have there working with them on those drills. But I was looking at that, and I was like, that's fucking rad. Then I remember watching, I think it was Tyrone Woodley or one of the champs come through, AKA, that wasn't there all the time, but I was watching them do

those drills. And I was like, this shit looks really cool. And it seemed a hell of a lot more on point, you know, as a fighter, as necessary, as something that's absolutely necessary. I didn't get a chance to read your book, but I did glance through it and see some of the topics and that was in there. So I was like, oh, interesting. And obviously with what we have just done here together, I can see the importance of that. So I want to dive into that. It's funny how I always think of parallels when I'm sitting across from somebody. Like the me not getting to play after college football was the light that lit the fire for me to get into fighting. Because I didn't feel like I was done yet. You know, and I felt like I got robbed, even though the guys that played ahead of me at ASU were infinitely better than me.

It sucked going from like the best player, one of the best players on the team, to now sitting on the bench being a cheerleader my last two years after walking on and making it there. And that was a driving factor and i see that parallel like when when an injury happens or when something cuts you short and then it's like that fucking chip on your shoulder weighs heavier and heavier the burning desire to learn more and to help others grows so that's really cool definitely and it's all out of the box approaches so we were going after ice speed programs and nerve programs and stretching. And we were doing amidextrata. We were teaching people how to juggle while they're standing on a BOSU ball, while they're doing math equations.

So we were doing stacking the nervous system at a high level. And then all of our coordination drills were to stack the system. And Cal went through some, too. It was very fun. We got to open him up and his son up. And it's the most simple stuff. But when you do it the way we do it in semicircles and figure eights, you're connecting to that infinite flow of the universe. And so if I would have had that program back when I was playing, and I found it after, unfortunately, I would have kept playing.

And so that was the impetus. And from that, I've been able to now see the next challenge that we're facing that is a stressor on the athletes, which is the EMF. I saw guys wearing wearable technology breaking down from EMF. And so that's what got us into the grounding bags and the whole EMF space. It's a big one. It's something that like I think for the most part, a lot of people, how do I put this? There's kind of two ends of the spectrum. There's like the Ben Greenfields, the elites that are like fucking, hey, this is a serious topic. You know, you read a book like The Invisible Rainbow by Arthur Furstenberg. Fucking mind blowing and absolutely undeniable

at that point what you're seeing. And also the fact that what he'll allude to is, you know, I think, is it telecoms is like the second leading lobbyist, you know, year after year, right? So like if something were to come to fruition or something come to the surface from a scientific standpoint,

would that get swept under the rug? Yeah, and he fucking points to all those studies, right? He lays it fucking out there for you, like why you haven't heard about this or it becomes, you know, wear your tinfoil hat if you think of it in that way. But the ends of the spectrum are the elite level athletes who know about it, like Greenfield, who's a geek for lack of a better term, the best kind of geek because he really wants to find this shit out for himself and relay that to us. And then there's people who really get sick, who get fucked up from it. And then, you know, everything in Western medicine can't dial

in what's happening. And then they figure out, holy shit, I probably shouldn't be sleeping next to my Wi-Fi router. And maybe I shouldn't be working in this office building, or maybe I should use some technology that can help me to alleviate some of these things because it seems to be the only thing that works. And there's a vast fucking giant amount of people in between that are like, what's an EMF, right? And then there's even pro athletes too, you know, like a lot of my teammates, you know, Daniel Cormier eating Popeye's chicken, you know, like they just don't get it and maybe aren't affected as much as other people just due to genetics or lifestyle habits or anything else for that matter. But yeah, it is a topic of concern, especially

if it's not yet, it will be. It's kind of like Bill Gates when he says, if you weren't paying attention during the first pandemic, you will be in the next one. It's like, how do you know that? But back to the EMF topic, if you're not paying attention now, you most certainly will be when there's 6G, 7G, 10G. We already have 6G Wi-Fi routers. And we're about to have, I forget the number, but some insane amount of satellites up in orbit. And they're actually competing to see who gets which territory. Guys like Elon Musk with Starlink and Gates and many different people.

And this isn't just a, you know, holy shit, this is going to happen. It's like, well, we know what's going to happen. They're going to send up that. And it will have an effect on us as energetic beings as proven by the body electric and fucking several other things we could dive into. So it is something we need to pay attention to.

Yeah, definitely. I mean, let's break it down really simple. I always like to ask everyone, what's your environment? And there's a disconnect between people understanding that our air is our environment, unless it's polluted and you're in LA and you can see how polluted it is. But there's this thing called waves and particles that travel through this air or plasma that are the invisible stressor. That's the invisible environment that we're dealing with that chips away at our life force. And no matter what age you are, it's definitely the number one

stressor on the body right now. And if someone's RH negative, they're going to be more resilient for it. I'm not, so I can feel that stuff. Yeah. So you drive from the athletic standpoint and that leads you to nervous system work, right? Which will include light therapy and a lot of what you're talking about with movements, you know, patterns. And for those that are just listening, figure eight, semicircle, things like that make more sense when you see it. But it's eye tracking. It's tying these things back to the body.

And it's done in a way, I don't think that many people grasp. Talk about as you're unpacking this stuff and learning from the different masters in these different fields and piecing it all together, what that actually looked like on know on yourself on other people um i think it's hard like if i described what we just did together for the last hour and a half it i don't think it'd be something that people could grasp without seeing it or feeling it yeah so athleticism.com is where

i started 25 years ago and we started adding bits and pieces. So John Imes, primal reflex release technique. He's an amazing physical therapist, probably just genius. You can reciprocally inhibit a pain reflex. So I was doing reflex work 25 years ago with him, which is unbelievable. And when your body, we were talking about the reflexes of your body. Your body have certain primal reflexes. When you shrug your shoulders, you say, I don't know. There's just simple, simple reflexes of the body. You can reciprocally inhibit them.

So a great example is a pretty funny one. My brother got rear-ended, and his back was bugging him. And the reflex for rear-ending is arc back, open your eyes, and breathe in. You get hit in the stomach, it's the complete opposite. So to reciprocally inhibit it, I had to karate chop him in the stomach. It's my older brother, so I had to give him a little extra mustard on it. And I'm like, okay, you ready? Close your eyes because you can't see it coming.

And I gave him a nice thud and he's like, oh, and then first he starts dropping F-bombs. And then he's like, oh shit, thank you. I feel great. And it was reciprocally inhibiting his work. And that was what this work is all about. And then we started going into Dr. Toby Watkinson's nerve connections. This guy's out of San Diego. He's 80-some years of age, still in practice. But he taught me how to connect the nerves. So we started firing nerves. And now we can reset them so they're out of pain. Now we can refire them. We're using these activated, isolated stretching techniques from Aaron Mattis to get blood flow oxygen nutrients, open up the layers of the fascia,

warm the temperature up properly, and we're putting this all together. And then we go into the sensory nerves, all the cranial nerves for the body. So you have motor and these nervous systems connected. And when we start to do the cranial nerves, all the cranial nerves for the body. So you have motor and these nervous systems connected. And when we start to do the cranial nerves, it's all your REM patterns. So we have a whole pattern for treating concussions. But then in addition to it, it's awesome for fine motor skills for athletes. And Dr. Darren Weissman, he started a system called the lifeline technique.

In his flow chart, he has an area where there's electromagnetic fields, and it's either waves or particles or particles or waves are disrupted from it. So that's why in the invisible rainbow, Arthur Furstenberg talks about the flu was a flu until we introduced electricity in the homes. And before that, it was from cosmic shifts. People would get sick and adapt. And they called it the flu because it would fly in and then fly out with pressure shifts, atmospheric pressure or cosmic shifts. But that was the change in our atmosphere. So when I started working with these guys, I'm going, okay, how do we roll all this cool stuff in? But then the easiest way to get someone better is to clear the stressor out.

So get rid of the stressor, and here we go. Yeah, that applies to so many things in life, including diet, which was like such a big piece for me and starting to rabbit hole health and wellness, human optimization, longevity, all those things, right? It's a, it's not the supplement that you need to add as much as it is the crap in your pantry you need to get rid of, right? Like, like stop, stop putting the poison in. Let's start there. And then let's work with something else and stop putting the poison in actually applies to our environment. It applies to many things. That's right. It's all the environment. It applies to many things. That's right.

It's all the environment. Your environment can kill you. Your environment can allow you to thrive. Like it's everything. That is the single biggest thing. And it's that coherence we have with it. So we have these micro systems that all have this interconnection. They all have their interplay and their balance in our living collective intelligent matrix of a universe,

this universal consciousness. It's all through scalar waves. Kyle, this is how, these are the framework of every living resonance in our entire universe. They're through waveforms that are unpolarized. Wow, so that's kind of like, that reminds me of Ibrahim's BG3, the centering energy that came from the beginning.

There had to be a point, the zero point, or the singularity where something was unified, a unified field energy. Not a unified theory of it, but just understanding it does exist, because all of it exists in tandem, and can we draw from that? Yeah, that absolutely has resonance. For sure. Well, think about it. Our air is plasma, ether. These waves and particles travel through it.

And that's why we can make a phone call across the world in a split second. You get a code to access your bank account, secondary code, and a split second. If it's less than two seconds, you're like, where's my code? Where's my code? I mean, that's how quickly these bandwidths travel. So when you're broadcasting a frequency, that's a one directional waveform that's 10 zeros faster than how we sleep, breath, and optimize. That's disruptive for our body. Yeah, similar to like, as you're speaking about this, we've had Matt Maruca on the podcast several times. Boy genius, you know, he was going on podcasts at 18, 19 years old, breaking down a lot of Jack Cruz's work

and many others on light frequency and how disruptive it can be that we have, you know, these really harsh blue lights on post-sunset, you know, and like a lot of people are hip to that now, whether they wear blue blockers or not, but just hopefully we've all at least understood maybe we have some low-emitting blue light bulbs that we can turn on at night.

That's been the case for us, you know, probably since Bear was born. We're looking for amber bulbs and things like that. So when it's dark outside, the only thing that's on is going to be one of those bulbs. We're not turning on bright LEDs and shit like that. For a long time, we rented homes. We didn't have adjustable lights.

And even with that, that's still emitting a small amount of blue light, but it had to be those. So we just got in the habit of that, you know, and we got in the habit of that. So that way we would be able to switch on our natural production of melatonin. But that's still, we're still talking frequency at that point, right? And if we think ancestrally and we try to mirror, you know, how our ancestors lived to a certain degree, right? Like obviously we have some

miracles of modern science and technology we can lean on and enjoy. But at the same time, we didn't have the bright blue light after the sun went down. And so if we can mimic that, then we stay in harmony with what our natural circadian rhythm wants. And I think what you're speaking to is similarly, if we had a natural Schumann resonance that our body was used to feeling the pulse, and that pulse is at its own volume, its own intensity. And then now all of a sudden, we've got much higher intensity, much higher volume of things that are much more acute, and now seemingly everywhere. That's going to have its own effect on us. Yeah, definitely, because it disrupts our coherence in our bodies. And these light waves, I mean, we're a holograph of light, and we're all interconnected. And literally, our chakras are the same sequence and color

order of a rainbow. So we're literally one with the universe. So when you're broadcasting something that's affecting your chi, your life force, which it's the chi first, chemistry second, as Bruce Lipton will talk about, you have to have the energy to create it. So when you're chipping away

at your biofield, that's a big stressor on the body. So that's what this stuff does. They're one directional. They're 10 zeros faster than how we're designed to sleep, rev, and optimize. So I'll get in the brainwave states. And then they're a polarizing charge for us. Let's talk about brainwave states. You know, when I was on it, I first started diving into binaural beats, different things like that. You know, a lot of talk was out around alpha wave states,

flow states, and theta waves, deeper meditation, and then delta waves. And obviously, you know, oh, my drawing a blank on his name? No, becoming supernatural. Joe Dispenza. So Dr. Joe Dispenza really starts diving into that, like through his meditation techniques and diving in,

like where can we get to a delta state that's going to produce high gamma, right, where we can really tap into deeper states of altered consciousness. And that might be where the magic sauce lies in manifesting and calling things in. And that's his work. You know, I'm on the tip of the iceberg with it. But as I started diving into that, it made a lot of sense.

And then, you know, I started getting the brainwave mapped and things like that. And it's like, well, you're high beta and you've got theta, but you don't have much in between, you know? So we started working to create more in between. I think people might be familiar with those terms, but they're not necessarily familiar with what they equate to in each state

and how we can optimize them. So break that down for us because I think this is super important. When we think of like the nature of our experience in the 3D world, a lot of that's dictated by how our antenna is set up, you know, how our human instrument is aligned or unaligned. Yeah.

Well, Kyle, this is a big topic because we're talking about the speed of a wave, and that's how we measure electricity. That's how they're measuring our brainwave states. When you're in that alpha brainwave state, and you're in the flow, and no one can touch you, you're just dominating in your sport, that is a brainwave state about 8 to 13 hertz or waves per second. When you're in a delta state, you're in a deep delta to theta, you're sleeping.

Delta is one or below one to four hertz or waves per second. So I break it down to waves per second so everyone can really grasp this concept. Theta is four to eight. That's when you create and manifest and really start to hone in on those creative juices. And so these brilliant minds of old would drop something to wake up in theta and start to create during that state because they wanted to get into that brainwave state. And if you're beta, you're just higher than that.

You're just over the alpha state. So that's really common because you could take yourself into a theta through your meditation, but you're revving in beta. So you're out of the flow for alpha. And that's what our whole program has been based on is getting people more consistent with the infinite flow of the universe for the state that they want to be in at that time. And it's powerful. We rev really one with the Schumann resonance.

That's 7.83 hertz or waves per second. Now, the challenge with this EMF stuff is it's destructuring water at 2.45 billion waves per second. It's an oxidative stress of a one-directional waveform. 5G, 60 to 90 billion waves per second. And we're supposed to be 1 to 8, and the Earth's almost 8? Like, what is going on here? This is why it's the number one stressor, because we have 200 years of research, thanks to Arthur Furstenberg,

with the invisible rainbow, of direct correlations of stressors when we're rolling out different stuff. Obviously, radio waves, 1918, and then all the way up to 5G. A lot of people got sick because their bodies are adapting to that. That's their adaptation process at work. Yeah, think of it like a purge, right? Right. I just got back from Sultara, and I feel like ayahuasca has a unique ability to squeeze

and wring me out like a rag. It's going to wring out every cell and just squeeze. And that works differently in each experience. But that is the process of detoxification. Run the fever. Don't inhibit the fever. The fever is the medicine your body's demanding. And with that, I'm going to come out on the other side of it better. Oh, yeah. That's what it needs. You have these healing crises when your body's adapting.

We're built on viruses, fungus, and bacteria. Dr. Zach Bush will say to the tune of 10 to the 31 viruses in us and around us at all times, we wouldn't be here without viruses. There's nothing flying around to kill anyone. It's a dead protein that we're producing. It's self-limiting by nature. It's not meant to kill the host. And same as fungus and bacteria, you guys, these are our adaptation systems at play. And Tom Cowan, MD, and the list goes on. Andrew Kaufman, literally, they've never isolated a dead protein and said it's the cause of dis-ease in the body.

But it makes a lot of sense when you say, oh, someone pollutes the ocean that the dolphins get sick. Well, why doesn't it make sense that someone pollutes the ocean that the dolphins get sick. Well, why doesn't it make sense that someone pollutes our air and we get sick too? It's environmental challenges. Yeah. Thomas Cowan used that exact analogy when he was on the podcast. He said, if a dolphin gets sick and the next day, all the whole pot of dolphins get sick. No one said, what did that first dolphin give to the other 12 dolphins? They say, what's in the water? Exactly. And his video went viral. He had millions of views. And I was, I think, his eighth interview on his podcast a few years ago. And we were talking about this. He's a huge reseller of our grounding bags because he

understands that no one can ground us better than Mother Nature. she has all the answers we already are designed to perfection so shots and masks and all this nonsense isn't an enhancer it's a fear-driven mode but the frequency the healing pulse of the earth that's where we can start to heal when you can recharge your polarity in your body and we'll get to that in a second, that's when everything starts to come into play for you. Hell yeah. Yeah, let's talk about that. I mean, have you read the Kabbalion? I haven't. Okay, you'd fucking love it. It's the seven hermetic principles. One of the things they talk about is that all things have masculine and feminine. That's the principle of polarity, right? And so we have a negative and a positive, and that is the thing that drives the toroidal field

of our energy center, of the Earth's energy center, of the galaxy's energy center and beyond, right? Likely infinitely up, infinitely small. So when you're talking about the polarity here as bringing things back in a more unified field, talk a bit about that, because are we removing polarity? Are we still keeping this? Are we just coming into right relation with this

so we're not carrying too many electrons? Like explain, break that down a little bit. Yeah, so that toroidal field, the waveform are scalar waves. So that's the framework of it. And so what I found clinically with our athletes is eyes, the teeth, the thymus, your upper chest, lower neck, and your intestine area below your belly button. Four primary areas that get decharged from EMF. Eyes are really sensitive, but they heal quickly. So especially when I'm at a convention, all the white lights,

I'm muscle testing everyone. Most everybody, their eyes are blown out from the shitty lighting. It's like it's clockwork. So we tap on the bag, cover the eyes, and that'll recharge them just right there. Same with the teeth. The teeth will get small fractures. We want to get that polarity back so it has that positive negative charge. Same with the thymus. That's your electrical system for your body.

If you're off your energy, you're not fully on, it's your thymus. If you have afternoon fatigue, you don't wake up on your money, your thymus is a challenge. So tap on the bag, recharge it, and then intestinary as well. Eileen McKusick, awesome system.

I geek out on people that have created systems. We have our athletics, and I'm stoked on that. Dr. Darren Weissman has Lifeline. Eileen McKusick has hers. All these people have these great systems. Now, her system is through sound and through healing your biofield. And she talks about the body being a body battery and how we get a negative charge from below

and we pull those electrons to recharge our body battery. We get a positive charge from the unpolarized light of the sun distributing equally in every direction. We breathe in the minerals and then hopefully we get it from our food and we know you're going to get it here on your farm from the food, and then we're drinking that water for the conductivity of it all. That's really the essence of how our body battery works. When that coherence is out of play, and any

one of those parts are off, you can even be mental emotional, then there is a disruption in that energy flow. So my job working as a performance coach is to make sure all those systems are on go before you step on your play of field. And that's that coherence, that one with the universe that we connected. And we do it within the energy fields of the body, and we do it within the energy fields of the universe, and we train in those energy fields as well. There's a lot to unpack. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, brother. And it's funny because I think, I don't know if anybody's listened to this,

and it's like, well, the book's athleticism, and you're talking about like high-end athletes and shit like that, and you're talking to a guy who used to be a pro athlete, I'm not even a fucking quarter of what I used to be athletically. And yet I still consider myself an athlete because I want to be, right? I like training with weights.

I like doing yoga. I like being on the mats. I like going to boxing once a week. I like all these things because they bring me joy and there's a certain field of that. I like running or jogging. I guess it'd be jogging pace compared to my wife. Those things make me happy, right?

They're a release. They're a gift, and if I do them correctly, they leave me with more energy than when I started, right? And just for those things, I want to optimize just to be able to do that stuff, not because it's like it's good for me or it helps me look a certain way aesthetically. That's all a side effect of getting the feel of the thing that I enjoy doing. You want to be in flow state. And we were talking before, you said you're a better boxer now than you were when you were competing. Absolutely.

So that's the flow state because you're training. You're doing the work. You're putting in the work to get your brainwave states in those states. And now you're in the flow state. And that's what we want to. And it doesn't matter what age you are, you can still find it. And I know when I'm out of it and when I'm in it. And the more times I use the Vibe sound bed a lot.

I love Patrick Porter's Brain Tap. All these systems, light, sound, frequency, vibration, to help facilitate getting in. There are little cheats. You should be breathing on your own. And I do lots of Tai Chi every day. And I'm grounding. And I do Katsugo, Peter Friedman's method. I'm doing stuff to talk to my nervous system, to develop coordination, to help facilitate getting me there. I'm doing the fascia work from Gary Lineham, Human Garage. I'm doing the stuff that is the best in the business and then optimizing my hormones and my sleep and

making sure I'm at one with this universe and keeping my brain in that brainwave state whenever I play. And when you do that, those chinks in the armor, they're just going to be chinks. They're not going to be knockout punches. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. You've obviously, you know, we're in a different place than a lot of people listening to this in that we make our own schedules

and, you know, you're spending time out on the water or surfing and things like that. And we still got responsibilities. We still got businesses to run and we still got kids to parent and things like that. And we still got responsibilities. We still got businesses to run and we still have kids to parent and things like that. So it's not like it's all play and doing whatever the fuck we want. But at the same time,

there's a lot of people who are busting their ass, you know, 40, 50 hours a week. Maybe, you know, thanks to the COVID nonsense, you're able to work from home part of the day and things like that. But for people like that, that have a shorter duration of free time for themselves, what's the starting place for people? I mean, break that down. You know, if you're diving into something as deep as your book and you're really trying to unpack of all these different tools and

utilities that we can access to improve ourselves, where's the starting place for most people? Awareness. Get connected above, get grounded below. Have that awareness of what feeds you. Know how you feel. So if you know that you feel crappy having this food, just limit it to start with. So take the stressors out of your world, whether it's EMF, understand your environment. If the router's underneath your desk and you feel like crap all the time, move the router. Like, get the router out of your space. You definitely wanna have buffers between this.

The further the stressors away from you, the better. So I look at environment. Like, what are you putting in your system? Make sure it's clean, chemical-free body. Great website, by the way. And literally, clear the stuff that you're putting in your body, good clean water, and then clear the EMFs, and get outside and get in nature. It's all free. Go out in nature. Yeah. Yeah. That's a big one.

It's amazing to me, you know, at this point where I seem to think of these things as low hanging fruit. And then at the same time, I still meet people who will fill up water from the sink. And I'm like, uh, what are we doing? That's fluoride. What are we doing here? Like, why? Come on, surely we know better than that.

Graphene. Yeah. Chlorine. Prescription meds, all the things, right? So, yeah, I don't think it's something that can be overstated just due to the fact that we're all coming from a different place, starting with what we have and what we know. And those seem to be the, you know, I watched Noguera, you know, getting into jujitsu. I think I've told this story before in the podcast, but when Noguera was my coach in the ultimate fighter, I was a white belt and I was able to draw only as much as I understood from him, which was very little at the time. Like he was, he was phenomenal and he's a buddy.

But had I been a black belt, I would have learned so much more from him because of that. Right. One of the things that, that really stuck out to me, even as a white belt was I watched him drill guillotines with Daniel Valverde and another black belt for an hour straight. And I was like, you guys are just doing the same move. Like, it's a good move, but like, why aren't you doing anything else? And he's like, basics, basics, basics, basics win. Right. And it was always knowing that, like, this is one move that I'm going to find myself in. How do I get out? And this is one move that I can put on people anytime they're going to take me down that can win the fight, right? But it was just really instilling the basics. And it's an easy thing to jump away from that and think of the next gadget

or gizmo, as opposed to just like, you know, having the habit really instilled of going outside every day. And that's one that'll slip from me, like as if I get a super busy fucking week, that kind of thing. And thankfully, I have a wife. It's like, hey, the dog needs to be walked. And it's like, oh, shit. All right, cool. Let me kick off my shoes and go take my dog for a walk, you know, and just be outside. And that ended up itself. I mean, Mark Bell, for a walk, you know, and just be outside. And that ended up itself.

I mean, Mark Bell, the meathead, you know, who's fucking awesome, has been on this podcast a few times. And he was really big on hyping 10-minute walks, you know, just do it twice a day. And it's like, yeah, 10 minutes. You can do fucking 10 minutes twice a day. You absolutely can. And I can too, right? And then from that, like, I feel differently. It shifts the neurochemistry.

It shifts my energetic field. It shifts so much. Just from grounding for 10 minutes and walking around outside, getting in tune with my environment, seeing where the sun is. Is it raining? I went for a walk before this podcast, and there was a nice drizzle going the whole time, and it felt a little chilly. And my body was taking in all the information of the environment while I was feeling the chilliness of the rain. You know, that's an important piece to have. I love it. And what I'm doing a lot is free diving.

I surf, I'm a huge waterman. I live in Laguna Beach, California, and I'm always in the water. And we're doing cold water therapy. We're doing free dives for, it was 60 degrees, we're in for an hour on Sunday. And then last week it was 55, we're in for a half hour. No wetsuit. Taking in all the senses, all the feels,

it's survival instincts to the 10th degree. And a lot of people maybe don't have access or aren't comfortable in the water, don't have that capability. Take your body out of your comfort zone and put it somewhere else. You'll get into a parasympathetic rest and digest mode. You'll be out of the fight or flight sympathetic mode and you'll feel amazing. Start to sweat. Get that body moving. Those are the pillars for health that will keep you healthy. And now we have great stories. I'll show you some pictures.

Like, it's just, it's phenomenal. And I have to drop the word unlearn because it's one of my favorite words, but you're literally unlearning what you've been taught. And once you do, there's a whole new world of information for you and sensory overload that you'll just freak out on. Yeah, it has been a mind-blowing trek to really dive deep into unpacking all the bullshit. It still happens for me, and I just kind of crack up.

I went to a really great running seminar with Dr. Romanoff, inventor of the pose method. And he was just shitting on everything that I've been taught about running and breaking down slow motion video of us and the slow motion video of Usain Bolt and just showing like this, this technique that brings us all together on that. I'll link to that in the show notes, his website, if you want to understand a bit of his technique and what he's talking about. But I bring that up because it's, it's just one more thing, you know, one more thing to unlearn, one more thing to have my mind blown about, and then one more thing that

actually has real application, you know, like right when you do it, you're like, holy shit, I feel different, you know? The second, the first time you do sauna ice bath, you know, and you come out of that, you're like, oh, I am viscerally different right now. I can feel everything. I can feel it all. And in that experience, I feel high from it, right? And your testosterone, like look at this stuff. EMS are an oxidative stress. They mess with your hormones. Dr. Martin Paul talks about the voltage-gated calcium channels opening up. Positive calcium goes into negative cell. Tremendous cell and DNA damage is the secondary effect. That's from the vibration, whether it's low level milagos at 50 to 60 waves per second,

or wireless stuff in the billions of waves per second. This stuff is a stressor on the body. So if you're messing with your hormones, you're calcifying your pineal glands, so you're not sleeping at night. Your brain tries to figure out what's pinging it. So you have your Wi-Fi and your phone on next to your bed. Your brain's at sleep in it below eight waves per second. This thing's at 2.45 billion. And then your brain's like, what's tapping me on the shoulder all night long? You wake up, you have to go to the bathroom. You don't get back into that deep restorative sleep. And so that's what we're really learning about how to interact with our environment, create some proximity protocols and awareness of all this stuff. Our universe is so complex and it's so intricate and beautiful and it's all, everything at once.

But it's so simple when you just follow it and you don't play God. You don't play, like I can control the weather. That's not true. That's not how it's supposed to work. Maybe in one place, but who knows where the side effects of all the other places are going to be as you move that around.

Oh, barium's not good for us. Paul Cech had a great analogy. It's like you've lined up on a pool table. You have a fresh rack, and you're trying to call which pocket the eight ball's going to go into, and you're not worried about the rest of the balls off the break. Right? Like, what are the rest of the balls doing?

We have no fucking idea. Where are they going to go? We have no idea. Yeah. Yeah. Well, the silica is the one thing that we want to have in our system to keep hydrated, keep the fascia hydrated, because you disrupt your fascia. We turn into the glue factory when we're dehydrated. Ibrahim Karim will say our entire environment, the single reason for global warming is not fossil fuels.

It's from rollout of EMF. It's designed to destructure our environment. That's straight from him. And so if it's a destructuring our water, dehydrate our environment, we're gonna see an epidemic, if we already haven't, of dehydrated people and pets and plants. That's big.

Yeah, I've been getting into, we had Mario on from Onolema Water Structure. Yeah, that's awesome. That was a cool, really cool episode. We want to do some testing here on the farm where we actually have, you know, field A, field B, and we run side-by-side analysis on growth rate and soil quality and nutrient quality within the food. And we're currently talking to UT Austin and Texas A&M to see what kind of testing is possible with that. So I'm pretty stoked there. Well, the structured water, for everyone who doesn't know

about it, structured water has a structure and it flows in a Fibonacci sequence. So what happens is it starts to go in a spiral sequence and that's where it creates that formation that'll look like a honeycomb shape. And that's why the shot that a lot of people got tricked on getting, the graphene in it was shaped like a honeycomb. So it would attach on and just jack people up. And so that's part of it. But the structured water is what we want. If you're drinking dead water with no structure, it's not doing anything for your body. It's not bringing that nutrients and that conductivity that you want and that hydration that your cells need, your mitochondria needs,

your hormones, everything needs in your body. Yeah, Gerald Pollack was talking about the honeycomb, the hexagon, that it can stack layer by layer, almost a quarter inch thick in some circumstances when you've reached the fourth phase of water on a cell. Quarter inch to a cell is fucking like a skyscraper, right? It's a very big distance. And at the cell level, we have a negative charge. And at the end of that, we have a positive charge. And what he's alluding to is the possibility that we're creating our own batteries through the structuring of water within each cell, that it's, it's, it's own energetic system.

And in addition to that, the mitochondria will produce ATP. But the fact is that the cell is self-powering in a sense that it's creating its own energy. And that's mind blowing because that kind of turns, uh, again, everything we've learned about how, how we generate energy on its head. And yeah, it's just fascinating. You know, it seems to me that there's a never-ending sea of knowledge to be applied and turned into wisdom. And that's really cool.

Much of it is just remembering the way fucking we used to live. And a lot of that's thermal dynamics and the interplay between matter and radiation and how that affects our own energy field of our body. That's a lot of these systems. So if everyone thinks that or doesn't understand that we're electric beings, how do they get the six feet to stay apart? That's where our chi goes out.

I mean, these are known scientific, there's terminology to call that out. The Paisley electric effect of these rocks to counter that similar frequency. That's science. That's a real science that we want to let people know that that potential is out there for us to heal and thrive and for nature to help facilitate it. Hell yeah, brother. Well, let's talk about some of the stuff you guys, you've mentioned these EMF bags. Talk a bit about how they work and what they're doing.

Also talk about, I mean, you sent me out a gift of goodie bags. You've got fucking some phenomenal MCT oil that I've been running. And in addition to that, some really cool soil amendment, some minerals for the soil, which I went out and I put it, out and I put it through the food forest already by as many trees as I could, and I realized I had a second bag, and I'm like, fuck yeah, I'm going to take this to the parts that I missed. But I'm really excited to see how that works on the land. Yeah, thanks.

Yeah, we love the food forest abundance and getting those going in there. But we have hand-mined crystals. So the grounding bags are hand- hand mine crystals from a sister mine. We have white montmorillonite as a soil amendment. We're rolling out soon. And so those are some great products. But these crystals, they're coiloid crystals. They have moisture and magnetic properties.

So shungite, amethyst, black tourmaline, all the known crystals that have magnetic resonances, and magnetic properties. So shungite, amethyst, black tourmaline, all the known crystals that have magnetic resonances, they're missing that moisture component. When you combine the moisture with the magnetic, they're exponentially stronger for EMF protection. And Kyle, the only reason no one knew about is when you would mine them, they would turn to dust because they would be left out.

So we have to seal them, use them as is. This is the number one selling natural EMF protection product sold through doctor clinics. Oh yeah. Yeah, that's fantastic. So how would you utilize this? You're talking about tapping on this when you're at a conference, things like that as a means of grounding. And you mentioned having a smaller bag in your pocket with your phone on the outside of that talk about some of the different applications that you see with this

yeah so these ones the protocols are one on or under your bed you'll sleep three to fifty percent deeper sleep rodney dr rodney uh out of uh nebr, he just did a test. His deep sleep went from 45 minutes to 100 minutes for a two-month period. That's not anecdotal. That's a doctor doing a test for two months. Any clinical trial is going to be a day with a few people, like not two months. So this stuff works. Another doc is Dr. Alphavetic, Dr. Berlando, A-L-F-A-V-E-D-I-C. Guys, got to check him out.

We're going to make that intro. But he did a waveform test, dual impedance antennas. He measured any distortion in your qi or your biofield. He could tell exactly what's wrong with someone from their energy field being distorted. The grounding bags clinically passively treated up to 91% of the markers off on his patient. He's tested multiple products, never seen any EMF protection product do what the grounding bags do. Mother Nature does. It was blown away. The lowest percent change was 67% improvement. And that was the youngest person, and her thymus was decharged.

And that active test, we would have recharged her, and then she would have been off the charts because she was the youngest. She was in her late 20s. So these things are just absolutely a blessing. Put one on your bed. You'll sleep way better. If it's not on it, put it under it. Make sure it's touching it, touching the leg of the bed. You can also put it on a desk or a car seat, behind the car seat, underneath it. Five together on the floor of your home. clear 2,000 square feet. Seven, if there's solar,

you need seven grounding bags to clear solar because that's in the dirty spectrum. So get a Stetzer electric meter, plug it in the wall, it's about 150 bucks. It'll tell you how many amps to volts, how clean, how much static is in your line. Should be 50 or below in a really super clean house. Average house right now, Kyle, is running over 400, and everyone with solar is 8 to 1600. Damn, so if you've got solar, meaning like if you've got cells on top of your house. They haven't figured out how to ground it.

I mean, I want to find, if someone can tell me how they're grounding it and show me, other than putting filters all through, let me know. Because I haven't tested it. I've been testing homes for about a decade, and I haven't seen any. So that's how you use it for the house. And then the one big thing that I'm not a fan of at all, and correct me if I'm wrong, I mean, you're one of the most studied in the health space as well and competed at the highest level. Have you ever read that sitting on a massive battery is good for your health? No. Are you kidding me? I mean, who comes up with this stuff? Electric cars are the newest, fattest thing, and everyone has to do them, and they have to drive them.

The grid's not even there. They're using fossil fuels to mine. You have to use the grid that they want to reduce the usage on to use the car. You're using coal and cadmium and all these fossil fuels and minerals, precious minerals, to mine it. 18% lower testosterone for guys and girls driving electric cars. It doesn't get more efficient when you drive. It doesn't get lighter. It doesn't get more efficient. It's half as efficient in the cold. Oh, and then when you're in the snow, it's half as efficient. And then when it's dead and the battery doesn't last more than a decade or so, you're filling up our landfills with acid with dead batteries.

This is not a net zero on the environment. This is a massive, massive challenge. We got to reshift this fad. The infrastructure is not there. If 45% of the U.S. does live in a multifamily type of situation, the infrastructure will never be there to sustain this. So let's just end this now. All right.

The only person I've really talked about this is Mike Dillard. And, well, actually, Maruka was one of the first people to mention, and my buddy Aaron Alexander, you know, talking a bit about the EMF issues around electric cars and things like that. If I've got a friend or several that have electric cars, what would be one of the ways in which, you know, is one bag going to do it, putting that behind your seat, something like that. Uh, you know, obviously there's, there's issues there as far as the environment talk, you know, like that is something that actually for sure needs to be spoken about more. Um, because we have this idea in our head head this is how we're going to save the environment.

It's no different than like thinking you're going to save the... Listen to... I'll share the podcast that Rob Wolf just did with Paul Cech. We're not going to end fucking climate change by eating insects

and these giant... The vertical gardens that are all done hydroponically and shit like that. We either regenerate the land that sequesters carbon and feeds everything in a closed-loop system, the same way our ancestors did, the same way that's gone on since fucking long before humans were here,

or we try some other fad that doesn't work, and it fucks us even worse, right? So, I mean, the talk around, there's a lot of hype around, you know, the electric car movement and people, you know, really thinking that they're doing the best for the environment. The same way good, good, you know, hearted people think they're doing better by switching over to insects

and eating fake, you know, beyond meat and shit like that. I mean, their heart's in the right place, but it's not the move. It's not the way. It's not. You just said the way. It's so, so, there's an abundance. There's an infinite flow in this universe. That is the resonance of the move. It's not the way. It's not. You just said the way. There's an abundance. There's an infinite flow in this universe. That is the resonance of the universe.

It's infinite. There's enough water. There's enough of everything for everybody. We just want to tap into it. And yeah, for the EMFs on the electric cars, I have clients. They're obsessed with it. They won't give up their Tesla. And I don't know why

because they're some of the brightest minds in what we know they load up their car you need seven grounding bags behind the driver's seat to clear that and that's the resonance that it takes to overpower that massive battery

oh, did I mention electrical fires? firemen getting killed from their jaws of life to help save people? No shit. So, yeah. It's electricity. It's not a net zero. No, they're damn fun to drive. I'll at least say that.

I like the older cars. No shifting of gears. You just put your foot in it and it fucking snaps your head back. I will say they're pretty damn fun to drive. I can't sit in them, man. I can't. I ache. My whole body aches.

Like, that's how strong it is. Yeah. Yeah, that would be something you'd know pretty fucking quickly. Well, let's, I mean, what else have we left off the table here? You know, there's a lot of topics we've covered. Your book, Athleticism, really breaks this down fairly systematically as far as the approach from different things that we can get to, including some of the nervous system stacking you're talking about,

or it's like you're on a BOSU ball juggling shit. I can't even imagine myself being able to be capable of that. What else have we left off the table that we haven't really taken a dive on? Well, I think the next step is really understanding how this stuff plays into our freedom and our privacy and our body sovereignty. So the biggest pillar now for our freedom is data harvesting. And we're giving it away at record speeds. You guys, go into your phones and shut down all the apps that are open. They have two to 14 trackers

tracking every bit of your information at record speeds, aggregating it and sending it to AI to learn and learn and learn and learn and learn. And so keep in mind, most of these phones are made in the CCP district. That's a Chinese Communist Party district. So they have access to all our information, our addresses, who we voted for, where we live, our bank accounts, our passcodes. They know how fast we drive, our gate. Like Like literally that's what this stuff is learning

right now. So the data harvesting off of these phones is one, was a huge topic. Yeah. Yeah. What's a, have you read extreme privacy? I haven't, I haven't even cracked it. I heard it's good, but it's a fucking whopper. It's a giant, giant book. It's kind of, yeah, I mean, talk a little bit about that. If we're going to rabbit hole some of those ideas, what are the ways in which we can start to unplug from that? I mean, there's been great thinkers like Cal Newport who wrote Digital Minimalism,

fantastic books that have helped reshape my relationship to social media that have been extremely valuable my relationship to social media that have been extremely valuable just in that sense alone. But, you know, I mean, with all this shit reporting somewhere, right, data harvesting, and that's a huge, that's the next wave of the financial sector, you know. Understanding that, most of us understand, like, there are some pitfalls there, and at the same time, I don't like any phone other than the iPhone. You know, I've got all my Apple gear. They all sync up.

There's things like that, right? Like, and there's even if Elon Musk creates the Pi phone or whatever, that's still, you know, Elon Musk creating something where he's got, you know, X amount of fucking satellites going up, and supposedly is the freedom-liking man that he thinks he is and portrays he is on Twitter. And, you know, he's also pushing the electric car movement, saying that this is, you know, the way we end the fossil fuel issue and the climate change issue. And that, obviously, as we just alluded to, is maybe not the answer.

How do we unplug? How do we start to shift, you know, what this looks like? Because many of us are now wedded to social media for business purposes. Many of us rely on, you know, rely on a podcast and Audible to gather information and to share the information and the guests that I have on. We're deeply intertwined with technology. Is there a way that we can come into right relation with it? Yes, definitely. I hired a cybersecurity expert the last couple of years, diving into the stuff.

I got a fully clean Android phone. All the CCP parts are off. Bought a SIM card through privacy and then used To to order it. And so I can talk on Signal or any encrypted app, and they can't track or trace or learn from me. There's Jitsi. We can start to use platforms instead of Zoom that are recording everything.

There's a lot of ways to slow down this aggregation of information. Our Faraday bags on emfrocks.com are ones that are huge. Throw your phone in your Faraday bag. Right now, mine's on airplane mode, so it's not listening. But we throw it in the Faraday bag, and that'll shut it down as well. So you can still receive a call with it but they can't harvest that information this surveillance marketing Kyle's been going on for 20 years they're so far ahead of us it's not even funny we're like don't even have a clue what they know and how fast they're grabbing

it yeah it's it's interesting and it's scary at the same time. But it is where we're at. Yeah, I keep thinking about the old movie, They Live, with Roddy Piper. Yeah, I mean, it's interesting to see where this turns out. It certainly appears, you know, if you go down the rabbit hole far enough

that there is at the very least a plan in place from certain people at the top to create something akin to Brave New World or 1984. And if you think about that, you know, like most people listening to this, myself included three years ago, would have been like, no, that's not true, you know? And then all people are good people.

And then, you know, you just pay attention a little bit. You know, it's like, why were we still working on infrastructure? Why were we still putting up cameras on every traffic light during lockdown? Why did that not stop? Well, that's considered, that's considered an essential business. It's like, why is it essential? Who the fuck voted yes to put a camera on every streetlight?

Who said yes? And I talk about this. The first time I started hearing about it, about on smart grids and things like that, I was like, I was like, oh, this seems like it'd be a shit situation 20 years off. And I realized the brand new home

that I moved into in South Austin was from a brand new build. Every camera on every street light, not traffic lights, just street lights, camera on fucking every one of them. And initially, I thought this is great when I leave my house, you know, my family will be protected. Not that we're under 24 seven surveillance. And then I also realized, you know, they gave you a free ring technology, which goes on the front door. And anything that they give you is also wired. That was wired in.

It wasn't wireless, right? So, like, that thing's recording no matter what. It's wired. It's powered on. Whether I use ring service or not, it's still working. It's still a camera on my front door. They gave us a free Alexa. They gave us a free Sonos speaker with a microphone.

Everything had fucking microphones and or cameras. And it was just like, that's a part of the deal. That's a part of it. You understand that. You listen to somebody like Katherine Austin Fitz or David Icke, even if you may not agree on lizard people and shit like that. There's a lot of truth in what they're saying.

And Katherine Austin Fitz, I think, is a bit more credible in that she hasn't gone off the rabbit hole of the deep end on certain aspects of what consciousness is or the darkness that exists. But she was a part of the Bush administration. She understands the finance inside and out. She understands the play that's been happening from a long-term perspective,

perhaps better than most people. And, you know, where it's headed without us waking up to what's happening isn't fucking cool it's not a great you know picture it is dystopian for lack of a better term and we have more cameras in the u.s than they do in china yep yep right now and i put my sun visor down whenever i go through one so if i if i'm going through a signal the sun visor is always down tinted windows on the side not giving my face away. They can see that the car is registered, but not me right now.

We got to start creating buffers with this stuff. Throw them in the Faraday bag. Turn this stuff off. Let's slow down this aggregation of information because these cameras. My neighbor got broken into in my office facility. And I'm like, oh, he has a camera. And the guy fixing his door is like, yeah, he got to watch him break into his place. This is great.

I'm like, that's all it's good for. But then all that video goes to AI. They're recording every ring. The cybersecurity guy I worked with opened up a Nest, their smoke detector one. They had a speaker in it, and it wasn't in the schematics. And he called them on, and they're like, oh, we're just testing it.

They're backtracking. They're listening to every single thing. They have mesh networks through Sona. They can connect device to device and listen to you and track you and then know what you're looking at and then sell you on it. It's so detailed and so specific. And that's why Apple is a multi-trillion dollar company. Yeah, they sell a ton of product but it's because of the surveillance marketing yeah big big one for people to check out is uh the creepy line on amazon prime and it's about google and uh that was a real eye-opener for me i think i watched that in 2020 or 2021 mercola did a great

interview on checks where he broke that down and that was one where it was kind of like oh it's here we are you know this isn't far off right uh you hear gates talking about you know the ability to spray certain things in the atmosphere and and shift as a means for preventing global warming and and you know if we all get together and do this and he's talking about it like it hasn't happened yet and then you watch the dimming which i'll link to in the show notes still available on youtube uh and i had that guy on dane wigingtonigington, and I'm like, oh, this has been happening. This has already been what's within my reach to shift, right? I can change my behavior. I can change my relationship with nature. I can change what I put in my body. I can change what I say yes to and what I say no to. And that becomes empowering because it removes the victim ideology of all this is happening to me. Yeah, definitely. And we want to get out of

this meta universe. So having the awareness to understand what someone's shoving down your throat with propaganda and broadcast broadcast the awake people that is all your audience my audience like all the doctor clinics that are treating people all day long they're preaching and teaching that same methodology it It's to get back, to connect above, get grounded, understand how you feel, get the stressors out, understand these messages that are being broadcasted and unlearn from it, and take us back to be one with nature. When we can do that, the broadcasting and the EMFs that connect to metals in our bodies or from shots or all the chemtrail stuff they're dropping, they're not going to be able to control us as easily because we have our

methylation pathways open. We're detoxing. We're flushing. We're putting in the work. It's never been more important right now to put in the work, to keep healthy. It's a necessity. Getting grounded by nature is a necessity right now. It's not a luxury. It's like, create it. Do it before you go to work. If you have a work day, do it at lunch. Go touch a tree if you can't take your shoes off. and at night, you're barefoot, touching a tree, or you're in some body water. You got to know how you feel and get connected. Yeah, brother. I love that. Well, where can people find you?

Where can people get a hold of some of your amazing products? Well, you have a link through emfrocks.com. They can find our curated health products, the lean oil, MCT oils, and all the others on athleticism.com. Beautiful, brother. And we'll link to your book as well. Dude, it's been awesome. I hope this is the first of many podcasts

that we get to run into each other for. Oh, yeah, thank you. And it's been incredible getting to dive deep into your mastery. I mean, I feel fucking lit from the hour and a half we got to spend together. So I have deep gratitude for you, brother. Thank you for coming on.

I'm honored and privileged. You're a beast. And I have deep gratitude for you, brother. Thank you for coming on. I'm honored and privileged. You're a beast and so fun to hang with you. Thank you.