Kyle Kingsbury Podcast - #31 Aaron Alexander

Episode Date: April 30, 2018

We sit down this week with Aaron Alexander a second time to uncover much more than movement this go round. Aaron Alexander on Instagram Twitter Facebook and Youtube Check out Aligntherapy.com Free Audible trial at audibletrial.com/align Connect with Kyle Kingsbury on Twitter and on Instagram Get 10% off at Onnit by going to Onnit.com/Podcast              Onnit Twitter        Onnit Instagram

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getting ready to move from Bend, Oregon down to Santa Monica, where he currently runs his amazing podcast, The Align Podcast. He also has a wealth of knowledge on movement. He's a specialist when it comes to movement and body work. He's certified roofer. He has a number of different applications for massage therapy and manual work and just truly an exceptional human being. I will have him on again. So hopefully this is an Aaron Alexander overload because guess what? He's coming back again. And I had an absolute blast with him. Also jumped on his podcast as well as a guest. And we ran a couple with Aubrey Marcus.

Aaron Alexander got to jump on AMP, the Aubrey Marcus podcast, and he had Aubrey Marcus as a guest on his show. So make sure you check all those out as well. Thanks for tuning in. On It podcast. My boy, Aaron Alexander here, movement specialist, is trying to get into full lotus in a chair that doesn't look like that's accomplishable.

It's not happening. Yeah, I don't think you can do half. It's okay. I don't think my knees can handle that. This is about adaptation. It's an opportunity for new adaptation. We'll get adaptation mic a little bit closer here there we go so we got you back in austin we're here we're fucking here man i'm pumped got you back at the crib funny funny story the last time uh you stayed at the house with tasha and Bear. I was living in mom's detached garage.

I love mom's detached garage. You were moving from Bend, Oregon, down to Santa Monica, California. Yeah. And we've seen you since then, but obviously at Paleo FX and then out in Venice recently when we did the Whole Foods launch. Every Whole Foods in the nation. Aubrey and I went out to LA for that. But it's been a

wild ride and you've got you've got some you've really hit the ground running when you got to la because obviously that's pretty much the mecca for amazing people to have on the podcast and you have you know i told it wasn't blowing smoke up your ass when i said this before i think we've art i know i mentioned this on the first time you're you're ta-da you're the fucking first guy to be on on its podcast twice with me as the host appreciate that yeah hell yeah brother and you're definitely worth having back on again and again but um you know the thing i mentioned before on the first go-round was how when i went on your show originally, I always try to download a few podcasts of guests of special interest to me. And you had had a laundry list of people I wanted to listen to. So I downloaded, I think, 10 or 12 episodes. But it's even more so now because being

in LA, you're surrounded by greatness. You get to chat with so many great people. And even if they don't live there, so many people come through SoCal that you've been able to really iron out some great podcasts. Yeah, it's been amazing. The difference between getting to sit and connect with somebody in person like this versus doing the Skype thing, it's like taking the condom off for the first time. Yes. That's a great analogy. It's like I've never had sex before. This is great.

So coming from the Northwest, it was it was does that mean conversations are shorter it means i have sex with my podcast guests i was gonna say like instead of you being able to last an hour on the mic you only get like 10 minutes in i don't know what's happening we gotta cut this short but yeah it's been really good man it's been uh just getting to have that opportunity to connect with people in a different way i think the whole idea of community and tribe building and all that i feel like from the northwest there was like you know the sensation of connecting with a lot of people which was great but it felt kind of like sterile or artificial and i have had a kind of an interesting sensation of actually feeling more held, I guess you could say, or connected or kind of like a part of this, this tribe or this soup, which that's something we can probably pick at for days where it's just.

And that's West LA, right? Where you have that tribe connection feeling. Yeah. Right. difference when i'm in socal between being on the coast in venice santa monica even culver city which is slightly inland you know um redondo all those areas i feel definitely at home and at peace whereas the second i get inland if i'm in hollywood or fucking downtown it's just madness yeah well you got to drive everywhere yeah you know so every moment that you're spent sitting in your car for one thing so i have like a i'm like a like one of the crazy people as as are you i have like a grounding cable

in my car you know and as i'm in there i got a foam roller around my thoracic spine area and i sit in that fucking lotus position i put my car in cruise control i'm sure i shouldn't even mention that on a podcast if you see me in the highway like be aware uh but pretty good with getting legs down uh you know but we spend that time in that position in the car and that car, as I've talked about ad nauseum, that's a position of depression. And so we, we kind of start to aggregate that position of depression.

We're in there, we're collapsing our lungs, we're collapsing our heart, we're pulling ourselves forward into this position that you would, if your grandma just died, you know, we're hold ourselves in that position. Breath is shorter. Everything. Everything. so all your physiological processes get down regulated

so you're in that for an hour now add anxiety right because i'm late now add i'm pissed off because they cut me off right so all these are different lines that you're implementing adding into your situation and your body doesn't know how the hell to turn off or to start to come into like more parasympathetic relest relest relax digest state now so i think that's a big part of that experience like if you live on the beach and you can ride your bike places that's a different la than if you live inland and you are dependent on driving everywhere that's big yeah jordan b peterson was just talking about that in his new book 12 rules for life an antidote to chaos he's talking about the first rule uh how much our neurochemistry is in sync with lobsters and he dives into and they've talked about this

before i mean dr kelly stret talked about don't make the pain face when you're on a foam roller if you make the pain face the muscle will not relax the fascia will not release if you smile through the pain there's a greater chance that it'll release quicker right so the same can be extrapolated to the lobster where you know in the lobster hierarchy number one on the list the top dog or the top lobster is the most erect you know yoked boss lobster that kind of struts his stuff and then at the bottom is this feeble weak you know i don't belong here you know a little lobster and the same thing goes for humans you see the sad puppy dog and you're like oh what happened you know and it's always you know the mopey whiny bitch and then you've got on the the other end of the spectrum somebody who stands tall

with their shoulders back nice and erect not only does that exude confidence but there's a neurochemical response then from having a wrecked spine where we have and science backs this we have higher serotonin output yeah and so we could see that you know they're they're you know kelly kelly breaks this down i think in his his new book maybe did this in desk bound uh i know he has another one about traveling on airplanes oh i didn't know but um i thought i well stocked collie kelly i'm surprised kelly's it's not out yet i'm wise to i'm hip to the game i know what's on the forefront here that's good but uh in desk bound he talks about you know active sitting and passive sitting when do we

have a choice in the matter right we don't have a choice when we're driving we have to sit we do have a choice in how we sit in that car that's it to an extent right and that's what you're alluding to but certainly you know when we're working we can do standing desks we can have a foot fidgeter we can do different things to mobilize the body because standing in places is not quite as bad as sitting in place but it's not that much better whereas if we're moving around a little bit moving our feet stretching our body that continues to pump blood through the system that continues to oxygenate the brain we're we're we're really required to move we're not required to be stagnant and still and so that's why he he really references references quite a bit of that

in desk bound and i know he's going to do that in uh airplane airplane mode or whatever the title of this book is but yeah i that maybe with with uh his pull we'll start to see a ton of people just walking the aisles on airplanes all of a sudden yeah yeah i mean i'm there you're there where it's it's happening there's a minority of us that are absolutely that awkward weird annoying guy that's doing lunges down the lane on the plane you know my my intention while being on this body on earth is to make that be more you know normalizing that where it's like oh i'm actually up regulating fucking everything by doing this you know maybe if we had a little bit more you know liberation or freedom or i think it's fear of judgment is the big thing you know so when we're

in a community where people are broken or diseased or dysregulated if you're the one outlier that's trying to up regulate then the other lobsters or crabs are going to pull you back into that bucket it's like the crabs in the bucket you don't need to put a lid on it because yeah they'll cut your freaking legs off to get you back in the bucket you know welcome to the united states welcome to western culture you know so if you're the person that's doing a down dog or a handstand or you know you mentioned kelly star the couch stretch and if you're doing that in public you're going to get some looks and aaron you got quite a few looks at paleo effects dropping into that monster squat it's put a new definition on ass to grass i think your ass was just like an inch off the ground

that's how deep it was down there and it was it was like every i don't know every 30 seconds you just drop into that glorious squat well it's because i'm like a canary in the coal mine with that so i've i have had uh the fabulous experience experience of having varicose veins in my legs. And so maybe it's a genetic thing. Maybe I was really into bodybuilding at a stupid young age. It was like insecurity stuff that I've talked about previously as well. Maybe I injured myself with that. Whatever it is, my circulation in my legs isn't as fantastic as it potentially could be.

So I'm a lot like a celiac person except with circulation you know so i can feel that shit if i don't have and everybody can feel this you know so if you're a person that's that's in a standing position like you're working working a you know in a cashier whatever it may be i got this from actually kelly stripe uh they end up up regulating or creating more blood in their body because they can't circulate it as well. So their body now needs more blood to circulate because if they're moving, they can circulate with less. If you're just sitting in this static still position, your body's like, shit, we need to,

all that blood's in your legs. We need some blood in your brain what can we do oh we'll make more so now you'd be a heavier blood bag right so figuring out like okay what if we just kind of get out of that like blood bag territory and start kind of just moving our bodies around like dance you know and dance is a big ask for people but maybe start off with just like i was reading recently about i'm doing this this chapter in a book and it's one thing i was getting into with is like walking you know and so the the difference with you know the hatha tribesmen's walking versus like modern day walking i've seen

different numbers with this you got something no okay just yawning oh that was a yawn oh sorry i was trying to cover it up for the camera audit listeners falling asleep so uh hot's a chive man i get that i am fascinated even though my face doesn't say someone scratches their face i'm always like i have shit on my face i know it so i swear to god if you scratch your face one time during this situation it's gonna make me feel incredibly insecure my beard twitches yeah the muff dive um so we are the mustache ride not muff dive muff dive is a mustache right is so for the folks listening at home would be pubic hair ah so if you muff dive you're going down on somebody okay and then a mustache ride is just you know someone going for a ride on the mustache so there still is, they compliment each other. And a snowball, are you familiar with snowball?

Oh boy, that's, yeah, that's where, well, we do have an explicit podcast, but yeah, that would be the. No, we're not going to say what that is. Okay, well, just Google. That's too far. Google the snowball. Okay, in case there's, well, everyone has access to Google.

I was going to say, if there's children listening, we won't't say that but children know how to use google so we've already crossed the line i don't even know if i said that right um so hot's a tribesman average walking distance for a female from what i read i've read a couple different things what i just recently read maybe fact check and look into this i read 3.5 miles a day is the average a strap gps units to these people they measured it for lots of days. How many steps is that? 12,000? 10,000? I believe about 5,000.

I believe about 5 miles is about 10,000 steps. So they're doing less than 10,000 steps a day. The HOTSA. We got to look into this. This is what I read later. I don't know what it translates to the steps. So I can send you the article that I was reading from this. We'll link to it in the show notes.

Link to it in the show notes. Yeah. But I've also heard I've read some other stuff where it's like they're saying it's like a lot more than that. So let's let's research this a little bit. But what I literally was just reading yesterday was that 3.5 miles for females and then double that with males. We can maybe look it up over here while we're here.

So seven miles on average for a man and one of the big things that was interesting with that was they called it they called it levy flight pattern or levy walking pattern is the way that they do it so their movement ends up looking a lot more like that of somebody that's moving around like a music festival or a college campus or Disney World or whatever where you kind of orb, bear your kid. If you watch a little kid, they don't have this linear style movement where I go, it's like we have these right angles like on the table, I go here and then I go right and then I go left and I go,

and it's cubicle type motion. So they kind of have this all over the place, exploratory type, and then they get down on the have this all over the place exploratory time and then they get down on the ground and they come up on the ground and they're back what we got we got some we got some business five miles ryan pulled it up ryan you're allowed to speak buddy you can get in there ryan jamie vernon jumps in yeah if we can do that kyle already gone while i was talking they have an okay podcast i think the joe rogan experience he's jamie's a lot of talk you got a voice ryan so 10 000 steps is about five miles give or take all right yeah

yeah so but what's interesting about that everybody knows about the 10 000 steps all that stuff uh what i think is really interesting about that is more they call it super diffusive movement patterning so super diffusive you have to say it that way you can just say it like scatter diffusive i feel like an asshole when i say shit like that so as you're moving around it's diffusing your movement a little bit all right so what we do is we're so damn directive with everything we do you know we're so damn linear with okay i get here i get this done and that goes against our physiology it goes against our biology you look at something like heart rate variability

heart variability you're the healthiest when you're the most chaotic yeah when there's the least amount of rhythm right bum bum bum bum bum bum that's it right so we think that maybe there could be like a little bit of a chance that our heart rate variability or the pattern that's the healthiest for our heart maybe that relates to our actual extrapolates out to our physical movement maybe our everything the thing is when you say when you say something like that everybody's like oh that's bullshit it's not connected and the truth is everything's interconnected and we can reverse engineer all this shit all you have to do is look at breath work in the nervous system yeah if you're in a fight or flight state sympathetic

state odds are you're breathing quickly the second you slow your breathing down and i think aubrey has this in his book on the day six deep breaths was a study that scientifically proven to lower blood pressure to shift you in a parasympathetic state rest and digest six deep breaths that's it yeah right and then we have different modes like four seconds in eight seconds out if you slow the exhale down that shifts you into parasympathetic as well right it doesn't matter if your mind's fucking racing if you just got fired if your wife just left you for another man or woman whatever the case is well now we have different terms for genders but yeah but no we're not in fucking canada i subscribe to peterson

on that one the the point is like we can reverse engineer that right and they're just like the fake it till you make it like why does it work to smile even if you're not happy it works to smile well your muscles know that that fucking position of your face and that reverse engineers neurochemistry it helps you feel better inside and it changes it all the way through the system right so that that concept to me makes a ton of sense and yeah if you watch aaron alexander walk at paleo fx or my son there's it's very fucking free and it looks odd because it's different from the rest of the group right it's it's um you're very childish aaron and i mean that in the fucking best way possible. Like you move very freely.

And obviously when we were, we went to, I think a rave, my first rave, New Year's on 2016, right? It was a year ago. No, it was 2016 turning 2017. Yeah. We're out in LA. Oh yeah. That was special.

Your fucking dance moves were serious, but there was ballet in there. There was all kinds of shit. And I was like, fuck, yes, get yes get it you know and it was cool and everyone there was digging it because it was it was a place where it wasn't a hip-hop club you know it was like and not not that there's anything wrong with that but you didn't have to dance like everyone else there and obviously that shit was long past your thought process of whatever you know you gave no fucks yeah and i hadn't experienced that until i was at spirit ranch in sedona and perangi put us through an ecstatic

dance and the way he did this was with blindfolds so you didn't have to worry about what other people thought and the truth is i on paper didn't give a fuck but the second my wife started talking before we realized we're gonna to wear blindfolds she was like i'm going to be watching you the whole time i got totally fucking nervous yeah and then probably was like no you won't be watching him at all everyone's gonna have blindfolds and i was like yes i'm safe you know but it's that i that idea you know dance like no one's watching the famous quote well it's very hard to accomplish that when you know people are watching or when you're self-conscious.

And it's very easy to do that. But I mean, just from this, this goes well past dance into the way we walk, the way we act in front of others, the way we speak to one another, how we stand. If you don't have a lot of self-confidence, you're going to stand like you don't. You're going to stand like you don't mean what you're saying or that maybe I kind of know what I'm talking about, but I'm'm not sure i'm not certain of myself well as jordan peterson ducks about like if you're not sure of yourself no one else is going to be fucking sure of you that's for damn sure no one else is going to take you serious if you don't take yourself serious and then i'm not saying like

i'm a very important person i have important shit to say it's just like this your demeanor body language says so much about a person far more than the words coming out of their mouth yeah right with the uh just to kind of like put a cork on the jordan peterson lobster thing one of the interesting parts of that was the lobsters that end up being defeated in their fight for territory they end up um i keep saying up regulating but that's what they're doing up regulating this octopamine is uh kind of like you know so serotonin is like to feel good be assertive be strong yeah the negative hormone counter to that is one that

we don't have yeah they do it's like the yeah it's like the dark matter of of that and so they end up up regulating this octopamine stuff amongst other things that's the scientific flashlight that's the nature of things we get attached to terms the reality of things is probably way different than that but we say this term over and over again it's a story that we play over in our heads octopamine remember that's what it is write it down you understand the whole biological process of a lobster if you remember octopamine you know but they end up up regulating octopamine let's call that the top of the vector, and then the whole cascade that's below that, whatever's attached to it. And they end up leading, they recirculate that throughout their life.

So now every time they meet, say, it's a female or male or whatever it is, a relationship thing or a business thing or just whatever, they start leading with that octopamine stuff slash the rest of the cascades and now there's that feedback and they come back into that it feeds back into itself so their posture changes their neurochemistry changes the neurochemistry speaks to the posture posture speaks to the neurochemistry you know so when we're in a place like on it and we're optimizing freaking everything right we're what we're doing what the intention here is i would say we're doing, what the intention here is, I would say we're like, I'm here this week, is we're looking at all of these different prongs. And for each individual,

one prong might speak louder than another prong. We just did the PMF machine. And it's like, oh, cool, it's going to talk to your shoulder. Then it's going to talk to your low back. And then it might talk to this. There's no one right way that you have to enter the organism you know so some people talk therapy that's going to nail it that's going to speak to their posture it's going to speak to their neurochemistry somebody was like dude i don't want to talk i want to go out in a cave i

want to just sit by myself some people it's like oh you need placebo and you need supplements and you need iv you know it's like any of those we can pull from all these different angles and then what happens is people become dogmatic about their thing oftentimes because they're selling something or they just you know are stuck in their dogma and they start preaching as though that's the only way and then we start having fights and wars and now we're getting into like religious conversation you look at a diet you know rob wolves talked extensively how fucking dogmatic diet can be but yeah it's it there are it is a multi-pronged system as human beings are and one one cool differentiator because i found that fascinating too in the lobster discussion

they're more likely then to back down from a fight because they believe they'll lose they're more likely to not get laid and procreate after that a lot of times they'll shed their shell and go into a hiding to regrow you know because they've been defeated and they carry that with them if you think about that on human terms you think of a negative downward spiral we get in depression or different things like that where if you've ever met an eeyore out there you know somebody who's like oh i don't know you know and whatever you know this one bad thing happened to them and then everything sucks after that right they can never pull themselves out of a rut i've i've spent time there has been time in my life where it was really harder than

it is now because i lacked the tools necessary to pull me out and i talked about a bit about that in the solo cast but the bottom line is different like you're saying different things speak to different people for some people it's going to be. And that's one of the reasons we try to talk about all these things on the podcast and you do as well. I think it's incredibly important to give people more than one tool and to say, this can help you and this is why. And then allow people to try. But that's the thing. It's not enough to know, we must do. I love that from Bruce Lee. We got to fucking do it just try it out and there's something if people don't like exercise it's what exercise are you doing right because there's something you will like even if it's just walking in nature

even if it's just hiking even if it's just doing tai chi in a park with a bunch of old folks and then there is something it's also getting out of this again dogmatic idea of what the heck exercise means exercise isn't crossfit necessarily exercise doesn't have to be martial arts doesn't have to be dance it doesn't have to be bicep curls exercise could be looking across the savannah right that's exercising your eyes i was talking about this on on aubrey's podcast for just just a bit so i don't want to go too deep into here because maybe people jump over on that side but we're contracting these ciliary muscles that allow the lens of our eyes to change shape okay so when you're looking out into the distance those light rays are coming in

more at a straight angle so your eyes in order to receive that message they need to chill out so the light can just poof straight back and all right so when you look across into the mountain range or out in the ocean or up into the sky your eyes they need to relax to gather that message that's why it's relaxing to look in the distance all right so when we're looking at close up i want to look at my spirit crystal here all of a sudden now i'm focusing on that point and that light's coming more at an angle right so now it's coming from here and then it goes at like kind of this angle. Oop. So maybe if people are looking at the video, it's kind of coming like this, like a triangle.

If you're just listening to this in your car, he calls his junk the spirit crystal. So he looked down at his pants when he said, when I'm staring at my spirit crystal. If you're staring directly at your cock, it's going to be looking wantingly at kyle so but from that so the light i don't know why i'm getting all dorky with this but that light is coming at your eyes at an angle so now your eye needs to compensate it needs to change the shape of that lens to reflect refract refract that light there we go fracking. No fracking of the auto podcast. But it needs to essentially work in order to see that close-up image.

And what we're doing throughout the world is we're stuck staring into cell phones. We're stuck staring into screens. We're stuck inside houses looking into paintings of nature as opposed to going the freak outside into nature.

And then what that does to us from a from a visual perspective it's making our eyeballs have to work you know what you see with this and like in like china is reading about this again because i was doing this article thing on it uh their eyeballs are actually elongating like they come out like well no they're the shape of the eyeball as opposed to it being ovular and this nice light like oval type shape it's having to kind of like it's like squeezing in a way it's it's getting longer so you're saying like that's why they have chinese eyes jesus yeah so from the bay area i'm allowed to say this it's like i'm black i can make black jokes no i'm 67 asians in my high school i'm allowed to say this it's like i'm black i can make black jokes no i'm 67 asians in my high school i'm allowed to get away with it but everybody's wearing glasses

out there now yeah it's becoming a normal thing yeah right and so what that is you know a part of that i think that's literally i'm getting back to how this is kind of tangible muscle crossfit you know pulling stuff up type conversation what that is is our muscles need to contract in our face to perceive our reality we're stuck in a contracted state we're stuck in a stress state we're stuck in a sympathetic nervous system state we're trying to do all this stuff to figure out how to get ourselves to be more parasympathetic on everything we possibly can well that's that's if you're smart most people are trying to work harder they're trying to do more they're trying to go go go how can i be more

productive how can i and really there's nothing wrong with looking at efficiency like aubrey wrote it on the board this year uh to work smarter not harder right and i think that's very important from the top down it's pretty nice to have that here and on it but um how many fucking type a's do you know that simply want more from themselves not more for themselves they want to fucking work harder and they don't want to work smarter they don't want to work in they don't want to work on getting into a parasympathetic state they think what meditation is bullshit why why would that lead to more productivity why would that lead to why is it important to have inner peace and and quiet mind yeah you know and i think that's it's certainly a big thing for me that's helped me tremendously and it's and it's there's a reason

they've been talking about this for thousands of years it's something we need to adopt in the west more of and again that's something also where for people listening where they're like i just you know i can't fucking do it i can't sit quietly quietly in a room it's the same thing as saying like well i so you don't like doing power lifting or you don't like doing crossfit there's thousands of ways to exercise and move better there are thousands of ways to meditate and you know and then we'll link to this in the notes but the science of mindfulness by dr ronald siegel is one of the great courses available on audible.com for one credit you get a harvard level level course on meditation and it'll dive into every different

type of meditation and that's given me many tools in that respect but how important is that yeah i like that you had audible.com in there just so, just in case people don't, you never know. People might not know. From the great courses, but it's probably going to be more expensive than just using one of your credits for $14.99 a month at audible.com. Not a sponsor, but I'm an advocate. I have an affiliate. Do you have an affiliate?

No. Oh, okay. Go to my affiliate then. I don't think Aubrey's down with the affiliates. Oh, he didn't get down. Although we may have sponsors eventually. no affiliate links at this point i'm a lot looser than aubrey probably so people can jump over and well this is a company podcast for crying out loud i mean it's not the kyle kingsbury show even though i'd like to think it is it is the

on it podcast so we're representing i'm sure you'll bleep out my whole affiliate thing so no not at all i'm just joking we allow those that come on to promote what what um were you going to drop your audible.com affiliate link that was oh i mean i could it's yeah i don't even know what it is to be honest i think align audible.audibletrial.com slash align i think that's what it is i'm pretty sure there you go throw that in there oh yeah so yeah do that if you're gonna do the trial. Get on there. Why not? It's pretty cool. I get, we get like 15 bucks.

Throw a bone to my boy. Throw a bone. What's the deal? So, what I was going to ask is how did you get out of your Eeyore stuff? Is there any actual standout? Well, yeah. The first thing to do was to start moving again. So, you know, I dive deeper into this.

I won't go into all of it. If you're looking to see, you know, personal experience with depression and a lot of the things that I went through, um, leaving college, then definitely listen to the solo podcast. But, um, I had finished football, uh, at Arizona state. I knew I didn't want to finish school cause I had changed my degree so many times. I didn't give a shit about what I was learning. I didn't want a desk job, even though I have one now. Um um and i certainly loved being an athlete and that was gone there was no way i was going to play pro i didn't want to play arena and um you know looking at that i had lost all drive to do anything so and that coupled with the wrong pharmaceutical

drugs from doctors who wanted to just here let's patchwork this up with valium let's patchwork this with xanax uh things like that i mean when you take anti-anxiety medications i mean everyone's got fucking anxiety you take those medications what happens when you stop you yo-yo back up into a state of anxiety and maybe even a worse place than you were because you weren't addressing the issue and you haven't addressed anything underlying and it's the same thing gabber mate talks about with depression at the root of all depression or you know and root of all addiction rather there's always something there at the cause of addiction whether that's addiction to alcohol sex shopping tv you name it people are far more fucking people are addicted to media than they would ever hope to say i felt addicted

when we got rid of our tv i was like there was a knee-jerk fucking reaction of like fuck man i kind of wish we kept our tv and then once you get away from it you when you go back to tv you're like what is this terrible machine garbage shit on today don't get me wrong i love game of thrones there's a few things that i'll probably watch on the computer still but uh and you know we'll go to the movies here and there we got the movie passes uh i'm not going off the grid with regards to all fucking media but at the same time like having that break like i read more my wife and i talk more we have sex more often i don't want to interrupt but i noticed something i guess i'm interrupting but i noticed something with tv upon taking a big break i noticed a lot of tv shows are built for stupid people sounds horribly pretentious to say but

what it's what it's built for it's like you can kind of see into this it's it's the whole point of is to keep you engaged look at most reality get you to the commercial and then like get you to the next show whereas you get a book or you get a documentary what's the one with the fat kid oh i don't know the uh i don't say fat kid more she is a fat kid i can see um uh they're kind of rednecks uh me ma is the name of the mother i don't know it's like a little blonde girl rosanne no it's a reality show come on ryan pull that shit up ryan anyways the bottom line is you're 100% correct. And that's the story with, you know, it's just an issue. But go and get Honey Boo Boo. That's right, son.

Honey Boo Boo. You know this, man. Honey Boo Boo. How can anyone argue with that? She's a fat kid. And that's child abuse as far as I'm concerned. But they don't know any better. They don't know any better.

Obviously, look at them. They don't know any better. So there's an out there they're listening um get circling back to this depression business really it was about finding something i cared about and and have like paul check talks about this what is your life's purpose without that you know and i forget the quote but it's a man who knows his a man who knows his how can accomplish any why yeah or no a man who knows his why can accomplish any how like how i agreed with you yeah you're like yeah what an asshole no i was thought about it i was like wait hold on you know your why like why am i doing this you'll figure out how to do it right so if you know the

why if you know the why of what your purpose is what why do i need to do this why is it important to me you'll figure out how to get it done and that really was so something i was looking for was just to still be an athlete and really i had a lot of work to do on my childhood i had a lot of work to do on leveling up myself you know to go back to check in all areas so my diet was shit my movement practice had become shit without a coach and teammates to train with um i didn't have purpose in life so dr happy was fucked and i certainly wasn't sleeping well can you point out what dr happy doctor so he has the four doctors dr quiet your sleep pattern your meditation practice working in dr diet is obviously the food that you intake dr movement is your exercise

movement program stretching opening up mobility and then dr happy is your purpose it's it's how often do you play and and play and celebration can get confused with getting shit faced on alcohol which was something that i did regularly then yeah but ultimately that's depleting it's not enhancing you know and there are far better drugs than alcohol i've mentioned that many times on the show before but even in the absence of drugs just being able to play without substance was something i couldn't do just being able to celebrate and enjoy life without the need to get out of my head because at that point in my life i was uncomfortable in my own skin right and i think that that's a big one for people to understand that you never will understand unless you can sit quietly or stand quietly or be

in nature and do a fucking meditation walk with no outside sources of information coming in. So that's another one that's helped me level up is to not need to have audible or podcasts on while I'm going for a walk. There's a time and a place for that where I want to process and learn. And there's also me time where I don't take anything in and I listen to the birds chirp. I listen to cars drive by. I listen to the trees blow in the wind. That's incredibly meditative in its own way. And I think those are, again, adding to the tools in the toolbox. And the more of that stuff we have, the easier it is to reset. Because if I'm feeling a little anxious or a little stressed and I sit in front of a TV and it takes my mind off what's stressing me, I haven't fucking solved the damn thing.

All I've done is prolonged that. All I've done is let it stay inside me to fester and rot. And it's still going to come back up at some point. And at that point, it's going to be worse than had I addressed it in the first place by getting still quieting my mind and seeing like oh i feel this way because this thing's going on let me dive into that for a little bit and then you know oftentimes if i feel stressed or anxious now with the tools i will just sit in a room where i'm i have no distraction or i'll walk home from on it i'm only a couple miles away 1.3 miles 1.3 that's what i gather on my my ways 1.8 oh you did ways no don't do ways oh because ways ways isn't as accurate as doing like uh on kyle's on kyle's gps it's like nine

miles well what's funny is the aura ring because because i'm a fat kid the aura ring the aura ring says i did like five miles just because i'm like look i know i'm over my bmi is a little high because the muscle but it ain't a five mile walk uh anywho though you know i think i think having that drive and direction uh of what you want to do knowing why you're doing it and then you know taking that and then adding more tools, you know, fighting taught me so much about how to live better, you know, because it was very much a performance driven thing. And then in that I saw benefit, like, why did I get into meditation? Well, I had to, I was so nervous before fights. I had to learn how to quiet my mind for that.

That's why I learned about breath work in the first place. That's why I learned about Qigong. That's why I learned about Tai Chi. Like first place that's why i learned about qigong that's why i learned about tai chi like all these things came in they had served a purpose for the fight and then now that i don't fight anymore they're still incredibly valuable you know yeah uh as you're saying that there's a yung quote that i probably have mentioned to you before but he says um religion i'm going to paraphrase i'm going to mix it up he says something along the lines of religion is a form of protection from direct experience with god and you could say a similar thing or he said a similar another one where intellectualism is a form of protection from direct experience or actual experiences you get it yeah i actually

look up the the proper proper way of saying it. And I see that. That's why I kind of mock myself when I say things like super diffusive movement patterns because I'm not speaking from my heart when I say that. I'm going into the encyclopedia. There it is. Regurgitate.

Yeah. So that's not like coming out and really connecting with me. And so I kind of have this built-in like mocking that i do with it meanwhile i think it's valuable information i wouldn't be saying it yeah and there's nothing wrong with making fun of yourself yeah life isn't that serious yeah but along but along with that though so i think there is value in going into just as like a metaphor going into some of those different intellectual kind of chasms or explorations and you need to complement that with actually heartfelt experience you know and so when you're out in nature you have the whole encyclopedia there you know you don't need

all this excessive information in fact there's a really good chance that if you feel like you need to be inundated with that information all the time you're actually probably hiding from something yeah you're distracting it's this i mean it's a better distraction than reality tv to listen to a great book like uh you know great courses uh science of mindfulness dr ronald siegel yeah or aubrey's new book yeah on the Own the Day. That's going to be dope. There's actually a chapter where he talks about mindfulness or mindfulness. So when you're in your car. That's what we're saying.

Yeah. When you're in your car, you can either be mindful and practice mindfulness meditation, either with some light, easy listening music that's non-distracting or with no music at all and the windows down. Or you can mind fill with a great podcast like the on a podcast or line therapy a line podcast you keep on line therapy podcast that's right that's my fault because the website's align therapy.com so really that's my website and it's a line podcast thank you for the correction i need to take a line podcast.com as

well i haven't done or amp you know aubrey marcus podcast or any of the fucking other great podcasts out there or you listen to audible.com and you ingest some awesome information right so i think mindfulness mindfulness being a great practice when we're in our car because uh you know that can be one of the most stressful times a day and all can and also can be something where it's you just feel like you're never going to get that time back like what what a waste of time. But really like when I go on road trips, I know I mentioned this before, but I drove a thousand miles each direction of Greenfield. And I had, I think listened to three or four books on audible and four podcasts.

So like I felt just fucking quenched. Like I leveled up the knowledge base on that. Still had time to meditate in between. I wasn't listening to him straight you know so the reality of it is is you really can uh turn that time into very productive useful time where you gain for you and it's really it's not a matter of what do i need to know for this or that it's just what what draws to you you know half the time half i got 20 books on my desk that i haven't read that i have to read that i want to read part of those are for things related to on it you know regarding guests i'm going to have on the show or supplements that i want to make things like that and then the other

part of that is just fucking spiritual and some are on psychedelics and some are on cool shit that fascinates me and that's really what it's all about you know and going back and forth between the stuff you need to know and forth between the stuff you need to know for work versus the stuff you just want to know because that's what motivates you to live better yeah i did a an interview with a guy that was uh he's a speed reader uh jim quick that's the term it wasn't quick quick and i have been going back and forth we're gonna quick if you're listening let's do this podcast already i want to get with quick let's sort quick if you're listening, let's do this podcast already. I want to get with quick. Quick, if you're listening, KWIK. Do on its first.

And then if you have time for the scraps. So what I was going to say about the speed reading is that... What's the name of this guy? I don't remember, to be honest. It was a long time ago. More than one speed reader in the world? This was like three years ago. And the podcast can't be found at this point

anyway because my itunes only goes back to 100 episodes you're on lipson i'm on lipson they can get the archive yeah no i know it's there i just i almost like because i don't this is kind of another side tangent i almost like listening to this podcast now i bet in six months i'll probably think like i was a dummy whatever i was saying i was like that's bullshit so essentially anything i'm saying right now like probably disregard most of it unless you're listening to it currently then it's then it's amazing right it's amazing you know in my in my mind um you know but one of the things he said was i was like oh what was it he said the best book that you can read is the book that you actually read

dude that's similar to paul check what's the best meditation yeah what is the best form of meditation the meditation that you'll do every day yeah right you know and that's what we do and that's what we get a lot of a lot of uh unidentified folks out there and there's nothing wrong with this i think however you do your thing is great. But it's like, I do a book a day. I do seven books a day. It's like, okay, that's great. I think also that's really unrealistic for a lot of people.

So I think we have a lot of unnecessary pressure sometimes. And so with that pressure, it kind of forces us to squirt out a bunch of shit as opposed to really dropping into anything you just did a wanking off motion i did that that wasn't the intention uh you know but i think that that's kind of like a pattern thing like how you do anything is how you do everything so if you're the type of person that just blasts through

a book because you feel like you have this existential pressure of not being smart enough if you don't that might spill into other parts of your life as well maybe that that spills into the way that you connect with another person you know where it's like okay i'm like i'm doing sex we're fucking yeah we're dropping in i got five minutes for you sweetheart before the next thing the next thing you know but with that i think that there's a certain and this is something that that we gather from meditation from ecstatic states uh we kind of no we didn't uh steven kotler uh what's his last book stealing fire yeah gets in a lot of these different things you know so a lot of times we get wrapped up in like plant medicines as being like the way i think plant medicines is one of the windows you know anything that gets you into a state of ecstasis is a window

you know and when what happens with that is time starts to slow down you know so anybody i experienced this with with like cannabis thc for sure where all of a sudden you know i was in my living room rolling over and drawing pictures of whatever it feels like wow it's three hours i look at the clock it was like two minutes you know and i feel like there's almost something there where it's like there's almost like a like a key to extending your life in a way this is some crazy shit i know but our perception of this linear reality that we're in that's kind of all that matters you know so if at the end of your life if your perception of life like wow that was a long good one yeah it was a long good one you know but if you fired through it and then you die it's like oh shit what happened yeah yeah they i forget which which study it was but they interviewed

a bunch of people that were near death they were they knew they didn't have long to live and they asked them a series of questions that were all similar on um what regrets they had things like that and like there was a very there were very common themes among the group like 80 of them the answers were all common and uh one of the one of the answers was i wish i had put more time into my friendships and my relationships you know because so many people that are older you know i talked to my old man he's remained for a few friends you know he has a few friends when he was growing up you know and it's always like this idea like well you kept a lot of your friends from growing up and like yeah man like we we go to go to a bachelor party next month in arizona there'll be 20 of us

there and that's because 10 couldn't make it you know're all still close. We had a group chat on the iPhone. We fucking stay in contact. Do all of us agree on everything? Fuck no. But I've known these guys since I'm 12 years old. And we don't just keep that friendship because we've known each other for as long as we have. We keep that friendship because we all fucking love each other, even if we don't agree on everything. And I think that's important.

But they talked about friendship they talked about um wanting to get more out of life rather than accomplishments you know like everyone looks back at this shit i need to do to leave a legacy and to to be known to be remembered to do this to do that whatever that, whatever the driving force is for accomplishment as opposed to experience. I wish I had traveled earlier than starting when I retired in the golden years. You think about that, this idea that we have in the West that we'll work hard now to be happy later. When I retire, I can go see the world. I can do all this. And it's like, well, maybe if you took a little bit more time for yourself now, slightly less productive, if you have a job that allows that,

you'd experience more now when it mattered. You know, like I can't hike Kilimanjaro when I'm fucking 80, but I'll hike the shit out of that next year. You know, like there's all these things that we have an ability to do when we're young and to experience. And especially if you're single, like go to europe get it you know like explore have a fun time yeah you know the analogy that's popped up for me over the years with that because i've pondered on that that a fair amount because i've done a fair amount of like one-way tickets to

random countries and then just kind of backpacked or motorcycled or scootered around for five six five to seven months and in those time frames there's a lot of moments of like what the hell am i doing this is so stupid like i should be doing something more productive right now um you know and with that one of the things that's popped up is the awareness that a hundred percent of the time this is kind of what i say with movement every moment is an opportunity to cultivate or build your mind and body right so as you're sitting down you're exercising right you're working out the organization your pelvis and your spine and all that was the same thing with the relationships that you're creating same thing with that the you

know that your intentions the same thing with the groups that you're surrounding yourself with you know so if you're doing some shitty job that you're just trying to make some money and you do that for five years because you want to kind of just do that and then i'm going to have fun in that five years you grew a tree your roots have dug in now all the people that you know are in that same shithole all of your intelligence all the stuff that you've read and studied, it's rooted down in that. So during that time frame, you've grown this tree out of this thing

that actually makes you feel really uncomfortable and feels like it's a disservice to you. And now you're ready to uproot and do something else. Maybe it works that way for some people and they have a good transplant. But I think for the vast majority of folks that we maybe you know are more endeared towards or we respect or value it's the people that just from an early on age they just kind of focused on their values you

know it's like yeah this has spoken to me since i was 12 and i think i've heard something like that actually where um the thing that you wanted to do when you were like 12 or something like that that's probably the thing that you're kind of actually called to that might be bullshit but i think i've heard what did you want to do when you were a kid oh i'm pretty sure let me think about that that's a good question i'm pretty sure i've been i wanted to do oh no i wanted to do some bullshit i wanted to do i was no i don't shit on my childhood dream. No, when I was a little guy, I was influenced by my dad.

My dad was a stockbroker. And he kind of encouraged me. I still don't think I know what an investment banker is, but I just know they made a lot of money. And so my dad was like, that's where the money is, investment banker. So from a young age, I was like, I'm going to be an investment banker. And then I got into some more truth and then it became physical therapy yeah i want to be a physical therapist now you live the dream here i am i'm doing kind of yeah whatever you call i mean it's physical therapy but the easiest way to describe what i do uh it's like a hybrid of physical therapy and manual therapy you know but yeah it's yeah here i am

doing the same same thing i've been doing i've got my first job doing personal training at la fitness oddly enough and i live in la this is in lancaster pennsylvania uh doing personal training and uh i was at 16 years old and i was like this is when on the mind pump i i alluded to it like i was on steroids i was jacked up on every other supplement all insecurity trying to pile muscle on you know and trying to pile information on reading every book that i could mostly insecurity based flex magazine flexing out yeah everything men's health like all the like bullshit magazines and some other good stuff too um but yeah started off from an early age and it's just been that's just been what's what the path has been what about you i wanted to be an actor and it's probably because uh i would say like 90 because

of arnold schwarzenegger who had the prototypical male body like every every man totally natural that's what yeah what else would you 22 inch arms yeah but no i mean i mean i still watch old arnold movies i had i had bear watch i think a year ago i put on terminator 2 for him now if you're a parent you're probably cringing thinking oh terminator 2 and the kid's 18 months old that doesn't sound right but uh we turned it off the second he uh said your clothes give them to me and he rips the guy's throat out bear looked at me he goes before he could say no and i was like okay buddy later on you'll realize he's the good guy and so we turned that one off but uh bad parenting 101 um i think i got beat from my wife for that but uh i fucking loved arnold man i loved arnold growing up i thought that was a cool thing and it's funny

because i've had the ability to do some different acting things not for a movie or anything like that but i told you about doing mafia 3 the video game for 2k games and you mentioned gay porn yeah that started from the bottom now we're here right yeah that's it i had to work my way up to the top acting now i'm a bear you had to fake um things but um i think stallone started that way but uh i've heard some interesting things about stallone i'm sure you have in la no in hawaii i heard a story i don't think i can mention it no you can't mention that that would be hearsay we're not spreading rumors on this podcast we're spreading truths i've heard interesting things that's all i'm saying okay stops there so so i you know i had a chance to do when i was doing this video game doing all the stunt work as the main character

lincoln clay really rad right up my alley i get to beat the crap out of people and throw people around and uh you know we have all the full body suit with the little balls on and the infrared lights and then they wanted to give me some speaking parts because we had an actor come in to do the voice of lincoln clay from new york great guy what i noticed was the actors and this is not to shit on all actors from la but but the actors from LA versus actors from New York, there was a huge difference in how serious they took themselves. And it was almost unbearable to be around the LA actors because everyone had this cool new audition, this cool new thing. It's so important. And then the New York people were like, yeah, man, I'm going to play on Broadway or I'm doing this and that.

I'm doing real shit yeah but it was just it was like this they didn't have a need for validation they didn't have a need to to tell you how important they are but as you do real shit usually you don't have the need for the validation that's exactly like the guy who's fought three times in an amateur level versus you know fucking daniel cormier like there's no chip on his shoulder anymore he's proven himself right there's nothing left to prove and even if he loses it doesn't matter because he's he's he's he's he's went out on his shield you know what i'm saying so there's a huge difference there same thing with you know a young white belt versus an old black belt in jiu-jitsu you know the old black belt generally speaking for the most part there are exceptions to every rule but that guy's going to be a little bit more level-headed a little bit more humble simply just due to the fact they've already tapped a thousand times you know rogan's talked about that

jocko willings talked about that so yeah it's something that i noticed and then when i really thought about that i don't think it's that fun to memorize lines you know when i did drama in high school and things like that you're you're not being yourself you're being someone else you're being a character that's not you and some people are really good at that um and i love watching film but i don't love acting i don't love that because it seems fake and in a way it is you know it's not that those people are fake they do a great job at being the other thing for a little while and then they go back to being themselves hopefully they know what that is but you know for me i not that those people are fake. They do a great job at being the other thing for a little while, and then they go back to being themselves. Hopefully they know what that is.

But, you know, for me, I don't think there, there was too much other shit. And then as I gravitated towards athletics, it was like, okay, this is what I want to do. Yeah. Something I wanted to touch on previously is, I think sometimes we can almost, to a point of like,

we can pathologically become attached to being in an upright strong position to the point that that's actually an artificial position. And there is something to faking it till you make it. And then there is also something to being able to paint with all the colors. You know and so that's something that I think that that acting there's a lot of value there. Where you do explore all of these different parts or roles and in that you'll hear a lot of actors say that like man like through discovering these roles i discovered so much about myself you know so i really dug into that part you know but the reality i i think the reality is all of us we have every color you know we lead with certain

colors i'm a blue you're you know whatever but the reality is i think if anybody experiences anything we all have a little hitler in us we all have a little superman in us we all have a little like every personality that's ever manifested in this in this globe here i think there's a little something there and if you get charged up by somebody it's because you're probably speaking to some part of you that maybe you kind of push down you don't like that yeah that's a randos said that right like the what you if somebody says something or if you're around somebody and your knee-jerk reaction is you don't like them for whatever reason it's usually the reflection of yourself in them that you're witnessing. Yeah, man. Right? Yeah. And so that's something with the postural thing, standing up in superwoman position or superwoman position

and being up in this upright position, I think that that actually can create dis-ease as well. It can also make people uncomfortable. So being able to, say, from if you are some form of therapist or any business or relationship or anything you're connecting with another person and all you do is i'm strong confident awesome guy or girl then that will potentially make that other person uncomfortable you know so being able to play play with all of those different colors allows you to start to mix and match with other colors.

That's true, but I'm not going to slouch necessarily for Eeyore just so Eeyore feels more comfortable with himself. I feel you. And I think there is a certain value of, so this is like neuro-linguistic programming, you know, so you start off and you can kind of, I don't remember the exact terms for it right now, but you mirror, I think might be the term. So that mirroring, essentially we value people that are like us. That's why you and I hang out.

There's all sorts of things with you. I'm like, with Kyle, I feel like I get it. I feel this connection. He's got a fucking freezer in his garage and he sits in it in the morning. His cabinet's stuffed with supplements you know it's like there's all these different things that i'm like and i'm like okay i'm like there's a lot other things other than that but i'm like i get it you know whereas with somebody else that doesn't have a freezer in their garage and they're not such a you know eccentric in that way we might find connections but it might not be quite as as easy

and uh i don't know where i was going with that actually i think i was just trying to say i like you when you get you did a great job of that brother and you led with the best two things that i own the supplement pantry there's no food in the pantry it's all supplements how does it be food and then of course and then of course yeah i live in cold water and on supplements that's what sustains me and a little bit of sunshine i had a point you're talking about the eeyore why you might ask right so you mirror yeah so with that with that mirroring you start off because we appreciate people that are like us you can start off with that point of okay cool we're connecting i resonate with you i

attune with you i feel you i feel where you're at right from there all of a sudden nlp terms it's something like guiding i think or leading it's one of those something like that word from there you can start to take them on the path yeah so this is something that i will consciously or i guess or subconsciously i guess consciously since we're talking about it do with clients. So if someone sees me for rolfing or manual therapy stuff, then when they come in, I'm not just like, bam, here we go.

It depends on who it is. You slouch with them for a second and then slowly over the course of an hour, you're back to a wreck. A little bit. Yeah, so when someone comes in, I'm going to kind of mirror their patterns. And if you do it too much, then they'll be pissed off and it's weird. So it's that dance of being able to connect with that person exactly where they're at.

And then from there, you can slowly start to move towards the direction that maybe would suit them better. But in order to actually be able to take them by the hand, you first have to be on their path. So if you get somebody who complains a lot, you'll complain a little bit with them and then you'll first have to be on their path so if you get somebody who complains a lot you'll complain a little bit with them and then you'll slowly start to speak good about people yeah or maybe i'll slowly start so someone like i was talking about this with with tosh um my wife oh sorry did you talk about her on yeah on here no it's totally cool to talk about

her but people don't know tosh they might think daniel tosh tosh.0 yeah yeah right so uh i was talking about with this with your wife tosh and she said something about her knee that was like the the bad knee or the something yeah you can't say shit like that whatever it was you know and so with her she's at a place where i can be like oh like maybe it's your healing knee you know or maybe it's your you know the knee that you're nurturing or maybe it's your your your student knee you know and she gets it she's she's right there she's like oh yeah i know thank you somebody else i start off with that they'd be like this dude is a quack yeah right so it's it's it's recognizing that i'm staying at your home we've connected we've had experiences we've danced like weirdos at random places like we're already in a similar path so we can just say shit but somebody else that comes in

from new jersey and they're working at walmart and they have complaints about all their body and i say speak to your student neither be like get this is over this is over get the fuck out yeah but if i can spend you know maybe 30 minutes 45 minutes maybe two sessions maybe seven sessions with the person all of a sudden they slowly start to drink the kool-aid and now we're we're starting to be on a more congruent path and that's not just a manual therapy thing or any kind of therapy thing that's just relationships i think yeah i dig that brother even though i'm hiding another yawn well shit that that that's that's an hour with on it we're gonna pick this right back up after we had a nice little tobacco session oh we're gonna hit the tobacco we're gonna hit the tobacco we're breaking about that news on not a line therapy podcast but a line podcast so we're

gonna have volume two on a line coming up uh uh here in a moment so you can jump over it doesn't matter which one you listen to first i'm sure we'll have completely separate topics or very similar topics both worth listening to where can people find you align therapy.com align therapy.com align podcast i mostly post dick pics and ab shots so if you had a ball shot taken down from costa rica with grit i think your ben greenfield was in that photo too you couldn't see ben greenfield's balls though you could see your giant ball sack in that photo on instagram so that was you had to zoom in that means the person that reported it had spread their fingers to try to see between your legs realize they caught

a little bit of ball hair and decided oh this is bad but that person's listening what are you doing with your life yeah they're zooming in on balls everywhere to try to see if they can catch just a side nipple or anything inappropriate if you have time to stream through my feed and see that there's a little speck of ball and you have to go out of your way to report that beat it nerd yeah get out of here get out of here awesome brother well it's absolute pleasure where what else so what do you got on social uh align podcast everything's line podcast linethipper.com uh if people have any interest in starting a uh starting to integrate better movement into their daily existence i did a ridiculous thing with a guy called hunter matz who you know he's the partner of brian callen and the mixed mental arts podcast i recommend that one

as well have you been on there no oh dude you gotta get on there well yeah we'll set you guys up that'd be good um and yeah we did a little five day movement series start integrating better movement into a hundred percent of your existence so you can jump on that from aligntherapy.com awesome brother thanks for joining thanks sir Thanks for listening to the On It podcast with my man, Aaron Alexander. Make sure you check out the show notes to find out all the good ways you can reach him and get ahold of him and also visit aligntherapy.com. Thanks for listening.