Kyle Kingsbury Podcast - #34 John Dudley
Episode Date: May 21, 2018We sit down with John Dudley and discuss how he got into archery and bow hunting peaking into his mind to see what has made him one of the best hunters in the world. John Dudley on Facebook Instagram... Twitter Listen to the Nock On Podcast Check out Nock On Archery Nock On TV Nock On YouTube Connect with Kyle Kingsbury on Twitter and on Instagram Get 10% off at Onnit by going to Onnit.com/Podcast Onnit Twitter Onnit Instagram
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John motherfucking Dudley's in the house.
John Dudley was just on the Joe Rogan Experience not long ago.
He's been on it many
times. Phenomenal dude, one of the best archers in the world. Bow hunter, something I've been
wanting to get into for a really long time. My dad, my uncles, granddad all used to bow hunt
and never really knew kind of what to do. Like what kind of bow should I get? Or what's the
right size? What's the right, you know, what's the right technique? I mean, fucking any of it.
And, um, we had John in it on it for 48 hours. I got to do private training with this guy for
two days straight. We jumped on his podcast, knock on TV and, uh, had a great podcast. They're
all full of the beginner tips that he gave me. It's kind of like golf, you know, it's, it's not, you got a lot to think about. It's not just swinging a club
and, uh, there was just so much to it, but it was beautiful. And, uh, he really helped me.
And then he built me a custom bow for my birthday and hooked me up. I mean, just, uh, an amazing
experience with John. And, uh, we, we have an absolute blast on this podcast.
We don't get to go into all the funny shit that him and Rogan do on a three-hour show
where they're throwing some drinks down and having a good time,
but I think this is definitely going to hold its own in the podcast kingdom
with my man, John Dudley.
Check it out.
On it podcast, John Dudley in the house.
What's up my man i know i feel like i'm in uh what was that
movie of schwarzenegger where they flipped over the little gas the little glass thing what was
that was that like oh well they flipped the fucking the timer over yeah there's a movie
with arnold i think so six day i don't know when it runs out of sand like total recall
terminator one i don't even terminator two
predator i was uh impressed with how you roll with your mic you go full gangster he goes way
down low with that thing like i gotta go low you know what i mind pump taught me this because
they were like what the fuck is that breathing and it was me so i'm always like when i'm when
i'm listening it's so they told me keep the mic low and point it up towards the mouth.
That way it's farther away from your nose.
Since I always breathe through my nose, then it's less audible.
I think it's because you breathe through a part of your nose.
It's not because you breathe...
I can thank King Velasquez for that.
He made one nostril twice as big as the other one.
Yeah, exactly.
I remember that day
vividly you're sparring yeah your dual exhaust is definitely not balanced so that's where that's
coming from uh and by the way for those of you listening right now one thing you might not know
about kyle is he actually has a fanny pack that makes rogan's looks like a little bitch you know
i had i rogan hooked
me up with his when i went on the show and he was he was talking about um andrew dice clay yep so
he's like joey baby you gotta get the leather it's so fucking nice yo and he's telling me he's
telling me about it he does the best my i butchered the dice impersonation sorry for everyone fucking
listening but huge fan of Dice Clay.
And he's telling me about it.
And I'm like, I tried to order one of these because I've been wanting to order one.
And they're like $100 fanny packs.
It's fucking real leather.
Super nice.
And so he hooks me up.
And I'm like, dude, you've been sold out for months.
He's like, I know.
I keep a couple of these for special guests.
I was like, fuck yeah.
And I wear it at weddings.
Like nice, nice places where I know I just need my wallet, my cell phone phone and a can of snooze, maybe a little LSD, whatever.
I'm good.
But I don't need anything past that.
This thing, it's just too small, though.
Like I can fucking stuff T-shirts in this.
You know, if I'm out at a supermarket or something and I need, you know, I need some handy snacks for the kid, I can throw an extra diaper in here.
I got no problems.
I'm good to go looks like a
one of my portable sleeping bags actually with a i could fit i could fit a fucking mat yeah it's
gonna be your whole your whole fucking outfit yeah what do you call those rogan had you um
break that term down like a bivy sack there we go yeah you could definitely do two days on the
mountain with that fanny pack right there and you have a bottle opener on the side that's pretty hot no but i could i could add one is that this guy this is
so this is a lock i talked about this in depth from so it's a pack safe there you won't see it
on the video it must have sounded like an ad looking back in hindsight because i sang the
gospel on rogan's for these guys but basically when I traveled to Central and South America for a month I heard about slashing grabs so you can lock all this and then lock it
up push this button and nobody can yank open it's got like mesh mesh steel mesh through it so
you literally cannot slash and grab yeah and it's got the rifd blocker in there so people can't
steal your web info and Apple pay info when you're going through airports go-go gadget front fanny pack yeah yeah but i did get a one-upped if i'm gonna if i'm
gonna say there's a better version out there size isn't everything in life but tim kennedy's buddy
shane you know these guys are always fucking packing right and it's texas so of course they're
packing yeah but he's got a found like what the fuck do you keep in that thing and he's got like a fucking giant clock 23 giant fucking gun in there everything
extra magazines and then of course wallet whatever else he wants you know but it's it's it's just
like one size bigger you know and i was like man i think i could fit my glock 19 in this just move
some stuff around maybe carry a little less tobacco and be good.
Good for him.
Yeah.
Rogan gave me one of his,
uh,
super wedding packs,
as you call them.
The leather.
Yeah.
But,
uh,
it was,
it's like one inch short of my waist.
And they don't go bigger,
right?
Well,
they do now,
but the problem is you like go full big boy,
big.
So I'm like, I'm, i'm that person on the airplane that has
that doesn't really want to have to ask for the extension but you know that you have to have it
in order to make it work it's like that close i think if i was a 34 and a half waist i could get
that thing what's your waist though probably 35 and a half and you're six
six 34s my you're about six six yeah yeah yeah i wear 34s can you fit in his the one he gave you
no huh i can't now but but it is it's not it's not around my pants it's around the waist that's
the thing that's the issue maybe i can't put it around the past you gotta hike it up a little bit yeah okay yeah it won't go like my belt and every and
all that shit it won't fit around that won't fit around the hips yeah well just so you know too uh
i learned this from my wife in england fanny means a different thing uh-huh they told me that
he's pussy for everyone listening yeah so uh it's pack. Yeah, I remember I was there and I was with her family.
And for some reason we talked about, we were getting on the subject of, I don't know, someone was being bad.
And I just said, you know, need to get their fanny slapped.
And like her sister gave me this look.
And I thought, yeah, that has to mean something else but
but they're they're the fucking funniest culture because it will they call everyone wears them on
their ass so they call them bum bags yeah right yep but they'll tell you to your face like like
john's a great cunt that guy's a funny cunt you know and they just throw cunt out there like it's
like like just i think that's australia. Maybe that was another butchered accent.
But yeah, I think they do use cunt though the same way.
Like both cultures.
Yep.
Throw it out there like, yeah, he's a good cunt.
Yep.
It's interesting.
Well, what do you want to talk about?
Well, let's, we got a couple things here.
So I was hoping we could split this in half.
Okay.
Like a 50-50 episode.
Yeah, I was wondering.
You made a little post today uh to the to your audience and you had some questions you told
them we were going to come on the on it podcast what are the questions and we got a fucking slew
of great questions so i want to do a little q a okay for the listeners and um even though this
will be out months after the fact it'll'll still be valuable information. And then also, I wanted to circle back to some origin story.
You know?
I want to...
Wolverine origins?
Yeah, Wolverine origins.
And we'll do spinoffs, right?
We'll get a Deadpool origin.
But yeah, man.
I mean, what got you started in all this?
We were talking earlier about, in the car, when I picked you up at the airport, about
growing up with the Guida brothers.
Yeah.
Playing football, wrestling, doing crazy shit yeah well i've i've played football a lot with jason which i didn't know you knew jason which is kind of cool um from ultimate fighter yeah ultimate
fighter season eight that's awesome and then uh yeah clay was younger but i told you some some crazy jason stories you were saying you
were talking to me about why jason slaps clay so hard slaps the shit out of him every fight and i
said i said that's probably how he like knowing jason that's just how he wakes someone up in the
morning you know so i don't get out of bed it's a school day yeah i don't think it was anything
different um but yeah that was it was a pretty fun community to grow up in,
small little Illinois town called Johnsburg.
And yeah, the Guida brothers were wrestling and doing crazy stuff,
surviving down in this little kind of a, I don't know,
it was a small part of town,aky highlands that's what it was called
and uh meanwhile i was at parties earning gas money shooting eggs off two liter pop bottles i'd
carry my bow around and we'd be at parties and i would just say anyone you just had it over your
back i had it like a long bow yeah you just had you just fucking show up to
a party with your fucking arrow satchel at your side i'd wait till everyone got wasted and then
just start betting people on whether or not i could shoot eggs off these two liter two liter
pop bottles and that's what i do just shoot eggs so did your parents everyone had an egg pretty young um yeah my my i really started
it as a hunter i mean my family was um down in mississippi did a lot of hunting it's just kind
of part of the culture if you're from the south you you're into deer hunting and turkey hunting
and hillbilly hand fishing yep yep noodling or grabbing frog gigging like people don't get that either but yeah i remember being four years
old crawling around in um all of the the little let's see they were kind of i don't know i called
them ditches but they were all the little canals that ran along the edges of the cotton fields
down in the mississippi delta and we would kind of cruise around and gig bullfrogs and, you know, pretty
much dodge water moccasins. And, uh, I don't know. I tell my wife some of the stories about
things that my parents would let me do. They just, you know, they'd go to work and then
I actually don't remember. I think once I was after from four to seven, I don't think I saw
a parent during the parent during the day.
So, yeah, you just go out and dodge water mocks and strikes and gig frogs and, you know, shoot turtles with a BB gun.
I mean, it was true hillbilly stuff.
But I think that's what makes the South special.
You have to have some of that stuff.
Yeah, a little deeper connection to nature
there yeah and we go in canals and grab uh crawdads and shit like that i think that was the most
terrifying nature we saw in the bay area california that's some crawfish crawfish yeah
those it's amazing how terrifying those things look when they rear back and get those little
pinchers out it's like especially when you're like six years old yeah you think it's gonna fucking take a finger off yeah i was in uh florida one time
yeah it was in florida naples florida we bought some hermit crabs on the side of the road and i
bought this big sucker i mean it was in a full-blown conch shell i don't know how old that
thing was but it could have been prehistoric and he would never come out and i was just getting pissed off
and i was holding this big conch shell and there was just that one big claw that like blocked the
opening and i was sitting there just like tapping on it like freaking come out you know i wanted to
see how big he was and i remember someone asked me something across the room and i kind of looked
and i was tapping and he must have opened that claw and I was looking
the other way and I like went in there and he got me and I mean he was locked on and I remember just
running around with this big conch shell on my freaking fingers screaming like a little girl
and uh yeah that was the last hermit crab I had uh and I'm surprised I still have my finger that
that thing was uh vicious but yeah that was all the crazy little stuff I got into
and then somehow decided to take up archery because it was,
for me, it was more challenging than hunting with a gun.
And then once I started, I don't know,
I feel like I've always gravitated towards something that I wasn't really good at
because I want to figure it out.
And I, because it wasn't easy, you know, I could, I just wanted to figure it out. So I, you know, and then fast forward through towards the end of my high school career, when I like actually got
into shooting professionally, I was actually rehabbing my knee from, from football. Cause I
had strained it when I was driving down this little side road, um, in Illinois. Um, and
actually Clay would probably know where that, that road was, but, uh, I saw this little sign
that said archery, archery tournament or archery shoot or something. And I kind of thought, oh, what's
that? Because when I was hunting and kind of doing my archery stuff, there wasn't like real targets.
Now they have 3D targets that look like animals. They're made out of three-dimensional foam. They
have scoring rings in there. It was just, I don't know, it was at a different stage archery. But then when
I went to that one shoot, they had like real targets. There were guys there with gear that
I'd never seen. There's guys with like pro jerseys on. And I was just like, what is going on right
now? You know, the days of just carrying your bow in your truck and shooting eggs off
pop bottles in the yard are like long gone this is a whole new game now and I went out and I
sucked so bad at it I lost all my arrows after about halfway and literally was pissed left the
parking lot drove up to Wilmot Wisconsin bought some arrows at this Gander Mountain store drove back just so I
could finish and then I remember all the guys that did good had these uh jerseys on with the name of
a local archery shop that was about 45 minutes from us and literally Monday morning I was in
that shop just like being the weird guy staring staring at everyone in the corner, just like, what's he buying?
What is that thing?
And I was in the range going, well, what's that sight do?
Why is your stabilizer so long?
Like asking all the questions and then, you know, literally fast forward 11 months, left a football scholarship for four bucks an hour working in an archery shop pouring
concrete shooting bows fast forward another year and a half i'm shooting professionally and shooting
all over the world i mean that's just weird how it works it's a pretty rapid rise it was and you've
been all over the world right you? You've done competitions. All over. Yeah.
Probably pushing 2 million miles now.
Damn.
Yeah.
I'm getting close to my third passport.
Fuck.
And they're all stamped out.
Yeah.
With extensions.
Yeah.
Yeah. I only had one passport that I had stamped out from doing tours for the troops.
So we'd go you know we'd
go on like one two-week tour to southwest asia as they call it you know and hit like
10 countries in the middle east that kind of thing you don't get the stamps like you used to now
no it's been a minute since i've gone anywhere so i mean you used like if you cross the border
you're getting a stamp before now sometimes they just they just kind of, maybe it's just mine.
They just kind of look at it and just throw it back at me.
Plus, I've got a passport now that's just a card.
I've seen those.
Yeah, sometimes I travel with the paper ones.
Sometimes I don't.
I was all bummed out because when I filled my first one, I thought, yeah, that's filled.
I'm going to get the second one. And then I sent it off, and they sent it back, and they just like,
they literally taped another passport inside of it.
It's like got like cell tape, like putting in more.
It's like page extensions is what they called it.
So it like protrudes out a little bit.
It looks all ganky, but I don't know.
Got to have a spot for it in the fanny pack. Yeah, I'm like, I'm filling this one. Surely they're not going to put another one in a spot for you i'm feeling this one surely they're
not going to put another one in there and yeah after that one they killed it they drilled a
hole in it and that's it it's retired the card thing seems weird to me because it seems like
that's the fucking easiest thing to fake like it seems like that would be a real issue for
people trying to do some silk road shit, you know, have some different identities and skirt around authorities.
There's probably something weird on it that we don't know about,
like some kind of weird ink or something.
Chip, hologram.
Yeah, something kind of fishy going on there.
I always got – certain countries always question me pretty hard too
because, funny funny enough both times
i went for my passport pictures normally i cut my own hair but i since it was my passport i thought
i should get a proper haircut so i just went to a barber so i got straight up high and tights both
times give me the fucking crew cut so i mean there's one haircut at this barber shop yeah
so as soon as they look at it
they're like okay this guy's definitely working for the military because it was straight up seven
dollar high and tight like you can tell them you want to feather it a little bit or i kind of like
it to the side it did not matter that sucker cuts one style if there's the lollipop in front of there they cut one style of haircut and that's and
that's what i got both times so so you started an archery i mean we started hunting get big on the
archery scene and you've circled back did you ever stop hunting in that time or did you just start
getting into it more as you got older i've've always, hunting's always been top priority for me.
I have a saying that I say quite often is I'm a target archer to be a better bow hunter.
And I'm a bow hunter, a better bow hunter because I'm a target archer.
I really wanted to become more accurate as a bow
hunter, which is why I started shooting at some clubs and shooting at some targets.
I just wanted to be a better bow hunter because, you know, my first several years, I missed a lot.
I'd wait a long time for an opportunity. And then, you know, when it came down to it,
I'd come unglued. You and I actually talked about this today when we were coming here from the airport.
We were talking about kind of performance anxiety and how you deal with, you know, like adrenaline if you've never had to deal with it before.
We were talking, I think we were on the subject of Clay and Jason.
You were saying, I don't know why some fighters want to get so ramped up before they go in because once the cage closes, like that's coming anyway. So, you know, you kind
of need to keep yourself contained until maybe until you need it. And I was saying, I think
there's this fine line when it comes to that fight or flight trigger to where if it happens
to, you know, if it happens very early some of your adrenaline
can wear off and you can compose yourself again but if it happens like at just the right amount
of time before you have to perform if you've never dealt with it it's almost overwhelming
like you've you know i've like i told you i've seen people that i've been hunting with that
literally pull their bow back i'm like dude no arrow you don't have an arrow in there because
they're just so jacked up from having an animal that close to them especially the more dangerous
like i've been on hunts with guys that are doing like grizzlies bears for the first time is pretty pretty common um
and some guy you know every now and then like andy stump um mutual friend of ours
he went on a elk hunt with us with me earlier uh well it was last year it's first ever hunt we're hunting elk uh but we both had bear tags
and deer tags too and we're covering a lot of miles i think we were i think we were averaging
maybe about 11 miles a day covering ground and we came around this one corner and here's
some big boar bears like kind, there was actually three of them.
And they were just brawling it out in this, like, we're literally in the middle of nowhere.
And here's these three boars just like brawling it out.
And they're fighting over this patch of like green clover.
And I told Andy, I said, load up, dude.
He's like, what?
I'm like, load up.
We're going to smoke one of these suckers. And he's like, I said, load up, dude. He was like, what? I'm like, load up.
We're going to smoke one of these suckers.
And he's like, all right.
He ended up, kind of things happen fast.
He ended up missing.
And then it went off. And because the bear didn't know what that sound was, it actually came back to the sound.
So I could see it.
I could see the bushes moving.
And I could see his legs
posturing underneath the foliage and i said reload reload and he's like what and i said reload pull
back and also i said point your boat right there i said he's coming and all of a sudden he came out
and you know we were face to face with this thing and he stuffed one right in his chest and
he's just like well that's kind of
cool and i just looked at him like are you not jacked at all and he's like he's like should i be
and i'm like a navy seal yeah like fuck you you're the least fun to hunt with anybody yeah i said you
know yeah i kind of want to thought for sure i'd hear a little fart or something, kind of a little squeak over there.
But no, he was all cool and composed. And it was because all that happened so fast.
But there's also times where, you know, if something comes in, you're looking at it and
you start thinking about what you're going to do. And it seems like the more time you have to think
about it, sometimes that can be a negative because you overthink the situation um you know i feel i feel like i'm that way sometimes when i go
golfing if i really haven't thought about golfing and i go and just go and just swing i can hit good
for the first few times but then once i start thinking about what i need to do to make a good
golf swing then it totally goes to crap.
Yeah.
Knees slightly bent, shoulders down, back, arms straight.
Look at the ball.
Look at the target.
You know more about it than I do.
Well, there's fucking – I had a buddy of mine when I was at ASU who was a club pro down in Chandler.
And so I'd get to golf for free, and he'd give me free privates.
And I'd teach him some shit and hook him up with some weed.
And it was a great deal you know and so but it's funny because like even with a guy that's that high level the best guys will dumb it down for you you know and
he did a great job doing that for me i can't go for shit now i haven't touched a club in 10 years
but then i was getting all like decent enough to play with others and not hit it off in the
fucking somebody else you know
and um that's the thing though there's so much to remember but in your situation it'd be like
if the golf ball only touched the tee for a moment you know like you have just a moment where the
golf ball is there where you can even take a crack at it right for like if you're relating it to a
hunting situation yeah shot opportunities are it's a window it to a hunting situation, yeah. Shot opportunities are,
it's a window. It's a window of time. But it's funny what you said about your buddy
dumbing things down. Now I've kind of, I guess my reputation as a coach has really flourished,
you know, over these last few years. And the reason I think people relate to me is because everything that I teach is really
based off everything that I learned that I personally did the wrong way for a long time.
And there were 20 years where I was trying to figure out, I was reading what I can, picking
other people's brains and i literally
feel like i did every single thing wrong before i figured out the way that was right and so now
i've kind of dumbed down my whole archery process to where it's it. It's very minimal in the system,
but it's easier for people to remember it. And it focuses on the most common areas
where form breaks down.
So I'm literally eliminating the majority
of a lot of mistakes people make.
And I think because it's so simplified,
the mass majority of people can pick it up
and be good very quick.
And I think that's, you know, when it comes to any sport, anyone I've ever learned, if I wasn't good at it, it's because I didn't know the fundamentals correct at the very, very beginning.
But if you learn the fundamentals from the very, very, very beginning, then you know it's it's that way and it seems like
in any sport no matter how high of a level you get when teams really break down it seems like
it's always a fundamental breakdown like for football it's tackles when they're like how can
they not make a tackle yeah or they shoot themselves they're fucking getting delay game
penalties on the offense yeah shit like that yeah i mean like snap count like you would think okay how many you know
what are we 15 20 years in you know what on two means right um you know guy coming across you know
you have to make a tackle you know get low shoulder across wrap up right i mean then it seems like okay this guy's
been playing 20 years he's still trying to grab a sleeve like you know he's still not square yeah
yeah i'm gonna hit him from an angle it always comes to fundamentals and i assume it's probably
the same way in fighting you know no doubt yeah the best in the world it's for i look at jujitsu especially
the best in the world in jujitsu even if they can do some crazy shit like a flying armbar or
whatever they've mastered the basics and that's the only way they get to those crazy finishes
is through mastery of the basics and employing that you just don't see it like most people don't
witness that level of of excellence in the basics.
You know, like Hadri Gracie, I forget which Worlds he won.
And I'm sorry for all the Jiu-Jitsu fans that know I'm fucking this up.
But I think he finished everyone with a mounted Ezekiel choke.
Front Ezekiel.
And he did like four guys in a row.
Best in the world.
He fucking mounts them, puts them in the same little, like you know it's coming and you can't stop it yeah but it didn't matter
right and it was it was it was not only his approach it was the way he would systematically
gain that position and then that choke no matter what and he did it on every fucking single guy
to the championship it was coming yep yeah just? See, that's what I think makes it impressive
is the fact that he's honed it in that much to where it's that sharp
that even when someone knows that it's coming,
he can still just say, this is how it works.
And, I mean, football's like that too.
One of my early coaches told me, you know,
every single offensive play is designed to score if all 11 guys literally hit their man, right?
But then obviously you got the defensive side has kind of, you know, the same counter.
So it's funny when even at a pro level, like a 34 dive scores a freaking touchdown because you're like okay this is literally day one
of peewee football you know yeah you literally learn yeah you literally learn guard pushes in
tackle pushes out you know we literally have a 34 dive everyone picks up a guy and you know
literally let the let the running back beat the safety and we got a touchdown and it's funny when you see that play score even in the nfl but you know again it just
comes down to basics and really refining that in yeah and so much of that kind of like how do you
master anything in life it's it's consistency and it's you know like every football coach it's not perfect it's not it's not uh what is it what is it on perfection god damn it alpha brain kicking
i ate carbohydrates today that's my fail safe here um yeah it's not practice makes perfect
it's perfect practice yeah that makes perfect right i'm a big consistency in that right so same thing like you and it's kind of like bruce lee would say you know it's not he's
not afraid of the man who's who knows 10 000 kicks he's afraid of the man who knows who's done one
kick 10 000 times yeah because that's a fucking perfect kick yep he knows exactly the angle the
distance the timing all of it it's all built in right so working those things over and over again
correctly because if you had anybody you take anybody in mma or football or wherever if they
train like shit with a shit coach for a certain you got to unpack all that before you get to
build something new so it must be easier for you as a coach to work with guys that are fresh? Oh yeah. Yeah. Women are, women are typically
the best, um, athletes to coach because there's no, there's not a macho factor. You know, they are,
they really are folk. They want to know the process. They're like really interested in it.
You can tell them to do something and they just kind of put them put what they think they know to the side and then they just do it whereas a lot of guys
are like it's a bow give it to me i'll show you how it works i've been doing this since i was a
caveman but you know and then they're like oh shit i ripped the skin off my forearm. He's like, yep, okay. Can I show you how to do it now, please?
Yeah, I think with any of that stuff, I like having fresh clay. I don't mind someone that's very, I guess, advanced in their skill.
A lot of times, and I'm not sure if it's like this in your field,
but what I find with competitive athletes in archery is, you know, there's this cycle.
They'll learn a lot, try to get to a level where they're good. They become really good.
They kind of have their heyday. You know, a new guy moves in, starts to kind of be the top dog.
They'll start to doubt what
they're doing. Maybe they'll change some things or they'll try to fall onto some placebos of
equipment that they think might help them change. And then all of a sudden they, they lose confidence
and then they get to the point where they're like falling back to a coach like me, where, you know,
at one point they didn't really feel like they needed and then they
come back and they're like what do i need to do and you know for me normally it's like okay we're
gonna go right back to the basics you know this but let's you know we're gonna strip everything
down we're gonna start at the beginning and then we're just literally gonna just start archery at 101 and move forward and then all of a sudden they're
right back to level 10 quick because you know they've eliminated so much of the you know i guess
a lot of times it's confusion within your own mind it's self-doubt you know self-doubt derails
way more high level athletes i think than than other athletes around them that's one thing
with archery is it's an individual sport and one of the hardest hurdles to overcome is realizing
that if you have a shot that's good enough to get you there that's all you need to do I mean
it's not like it's not like my perfect shot shoots a 10,
but now all of a sudden there's this competitor next to me that can shoot an 11. I mean,
he still shoots 10s. I still shoot 10s. All I need is my shot that gets me here to shoot that 10.
But it's funny the way the brain works. All of a sudden you start thinking, well, this guy's got more than I got, which he doesn't.
Both your arrows are scoring the same thing if they both hit home.
It's just a matter of who has the most confidence in their game.
That's really who comes out ahead, at least at the higher levels.
And that's what's really hard to teach the the younger people
like you said someone that knows that's done the same kick 10 000 times he's probably going
to get way further than knowing 10 000 kicks that he's tried once i relate this in archery to guys that have multiple bows they have like multiple release aids which lets
the string grow um there's like different styles guys that'll try you know different arrows every
week i mean you never you know with with like martial arts you are the tool so you know it's
not like you're going out and this time you get to fight
with you know some kind of new glove and next time 89 inch reach in my next fight yeah exactly
yeah exactly so imagine if you could do that i mean imagine how many fighters would literally
probably lose their freaking minds like if if fighters could could adjust themselves like on
a video game where you're
like i'm gonna go in full power this time but my my flexibility is gonna be lower you know
if you could if you could adjust those things imagine how messed up some guys like some of
the greats probably would have never been the greats because they would have been playing with all these things rather than
just refining their one tool themselves. That's what gets hard with archery. Golf would be another
good example because you have clubs, you have different balls. It's all placebos. And I think
anytime you have more offerings of placebos, people lose less ability to really refine their mental strength.
And that's, for me, I think a lot of my success and a lot of my repeatability and most of my accuracy right now falls off the fact that some of the stuff that I have on my bow is
they don't even make it anymore because it's just like companies are like,
why are you still shooting that? We don't even sell it. You know,
can you please use the new one? And it's just like, it worked.
Like I figured out how to use it. I can do it in my sleep. You know,
I can, it doesn't matter how long I've practiced or how little I've practiced.
It feels the exact same to me.
And my muscle memory just agrees with it, you know?
And I think a lot of athletes out there, if they took that advice they would probably make leaps and bounds
at a way faster rate than being the the fast one to just change equipment all the time change
equipment all the time because you never learn your body you know you have to you have to be in
tune with your body yeah there's there's something to that in your mma you know where guys they kind
of do the merry-go-round from camp to camp.
Like, I want to train with this guy.
I want to train with that guy.
And there's something to training in a lot of different places, you know, not a lot, but a few different places where you get a different look from different coaches, a different look from different sparring partners, maybe some new ideas.
And if your base level foundation is high enough, you can those those bits and pieces and add them to your
game into your toolbox right because you know who you are as a fighter but a lot of people that just
bounce from camp to camp they never have a home base they're never rooted in philosophy so when
they get to the fight it's like uh i want to try this out or i want to try that out or you get a
coach that you know i had a coach that fucking changed the game plan three times in camp and i was like no it's the original game plan for better
or worse it doesn't get changed four weeks before the fight it doesn't get changed two weeks before
the fight a third time it's game plan one yeah and if that fails then we make accommodations
and adjustments that's it you know and that was the best game
planned by far so it's just it's it's funny though because you know that i guess could be that one
thing you know or who else is chiming in you know those kind of things get into it how much
how much in your coaching do you focus on quieting the mind stealing especially i mean obviously it's
a big deal in competition but especially in in hunting when you have that elk fever or whatever animal's in front of you.
Yeah, well, I don't really get to go that deep with, there's not a lot of hunters that are trying that's almost like that's a pretty high level
tier where you you know because a lot of people at first you're trying to really just get them to
the point where you know they understand the difference between a good shot and a bad shot
then you also want them to get to the point where they're able to identify those and and correct one of my big things as a coach is
teaching people that at a high level every every high level archer out there is going to make a
mistake um throughout a weekend of tournaments someone's going to shoot a bad arrow the ones
that the ones that continually are on the podiums are the ones that when they make
one bad shot they don't let it turn into two or if they make one or two they don't let it turn
into five six like they don't go ends upon ends where they're like yeah on my scorecard i just
had that 20 minutes where i was just off they identify when they have a breakdown and, you know, as soon
as the wheels wobbly, they can correct it and get back on track faster than the other guys that are
having maybe the same issues. And that's the case. And like when you're dealing with shooting with
wind, you know, all of a sudden the wind starts changing. you get a 10 mile an hour crosswind you get someone that shoots down there and they look and they know they're they know that their
form was tight their shot broke tight and they're eight inches off you know they can if they know
their setup well enough they can you know compensate with like their level or they might
make a few clicks on their site and then they're just pounding, pounding, pounding. Then all of a sudden maybe that wind switches to a headwind or a tailwind,
which sometimes the headwind can give your arrow lift and sometimes it can give it push.
So just like reading, you know, making that one shot and having enough faith in your shot
to where when you look down there at 70 meters in the spotting scope and you're like,
okay, that's pushed out the top, you can make adjustments and get back on track rather you know whereas the guys that
are in fourth fifth sixth place that might take them five six seven arrows to get that so i think
i think depending on their level teaching them how to quiet their mind, get back on track. It's, I don't know, every athlete
is so different too. You know, it depends on the level. When you're working with beginners or
intermediate people, you can teach them basics on, you know, if you're, if you feel like your
heart rate's ramping up, you know, you really need to, I'm really big on finding some type of
a trigger to try to bring, to try to get control of my conscious thoughts again. One thing that I
was taught was when you're conscious, you know, it takes your conscious thought to trigger fight
or flight. So like an adrenaline trip, isn't really going to happen from a subconscious,
you know, you have to see something.
Your conscious thoughts have to be fixated on the fact of,
I'm stepping in the octagon right now.
This is a fight.
And then all of a sudden you're like, okay, maybe for some it's when the cage closes.
Maybe for some that trigger starts right when their music starts,
when they're walking out and trying to regain control
of your conscious mind to where the subconscious starts doing the breathing and, you know,
kind of your heart rate.
If you let that fall onto the subconscious, it tends to go back down to baseline.
If your conscious is thinking about the breathing and the heart rate,
it seems to, it seems like spike, you know, you can consciously really think about controlling
your breathing and managing your breathing, and then your heart rate will come down with that.
But if you let the two of them just kind of have a free for all, then, you know, you're in for
literally a ride of adrenaline so when is that
going to wear off you know for some it might be there for a while and then here comes the crash
for some for some they realize it's happening and they're like whoa i don't want to like i don't
want to go out of this can and totally loose like this with jacked full of adrenaline where i'm
tremor and i want I have to pull this
into where it's manageable for me and I've always found that you know your conscious thoughts are
what's going to pull that stuff back to baseline you know you have to be able to you and you have
to be in those those situations the more you put yourself in those situations the more you deal with it
which is for me um why i don't compete now is because i would feel completely different
competing right now because the way my schedule is there's no way i could just go on all the tours. When I shot before, I would shoot up to 30 to 35 professional events
in a year. I mean, that's almost every, you know, three days, every weekend almost I was at an event
competing. So there was only ever three or four days between competitions where I was at home, I was probably changing equipment,
maybe taking a day off, you know, trying to get, you know, what I could, uh, done at work.
And I was constantly like in the ice. I mean, I was in the ice water the whole time. I never came
out and like acclimated the other way. I feel like it's harder to like step away and then come back in
with that game face and like to deal with those nerves when you haven't, you know, but when you
have control of them and you've got the death grip on them and you haven't let go yet, it's really
easy to ride it out. So now I just try to, I try to compete enough to where I feel like I can manage. And I shouldn't say
compete, but I like to shoot and stay on edge as an archer. I like to go to events. I like to,
I pick a couple of events a year where I'll go and shoot in front of crowds or, you know,
I'll shoot in front of big groups, schools or something where I'm performing. Sometimes I'll
just do practice rounds where I just go live.
I'll just turn on my live feed and literally just let people watch me shoot.
Because for me, I know there's thousands of people that are watching.
And if I miss an arrow, you know, and I'm striving to shoot a perfectly clean round.
You know, I'm trying to shoot a perfect 300 if I'm shooting an indoor round.
I know people are watching. I know they to shoot a perfect 300 if I'm shooting an indoor round. I know people
are watching. I know they're keeping track of my score. So I try to put myself in those situations,
not because I want to compete anymore, but because I want to be able to manage my
nerves when it comes to hunting. Like I want to be able to, in my mind, when the shot presents itself, like you were talking about that small window, for me, my trigger word, like when I know this is like TKO time, when I say checkmate, when I call checkmate, it's game over.
I know that thing is going to be leaking.
Does that word pop in your head when you're hunting as well?
Oh, people have told me they've heard me say it.
Like when I'm in that zone, I don't really recognize that I get there,
but a lot of people tell me I have this like weird intensity that, you know,
sometimes is cold.
Psycho.
But it's, yeah, it's, I don't know.
I mean, it is a life or death situation it's not
necessarily for me um depending on the animal it could be but i'm just really intent on making
a perfect shot and i just you know i'm like really i mean it it's like i don't know it's
like a match for me you know it's it's, it's a chess match and
these things are really, really smart. You know, they're wild animals that are surviving every day
of their life. They're not like us where they can all of a sudden, because they're in their car and
going to In-N-Out Burger that, you know, I mean, it's like, it's like if humans had to live during Mad Max time, you know, we would all be pretty damn in tune to surviving.
Maybe one day.
Yeah, it could happen.
And you'll want to have hunting skills when that happens, by the way.
Otherwise, you're going to have some crazy guy popping up going, checkmate.
What?
Yeah. crazy guy popping up going checkmate freaking what yeah um no i've i've just uh i've always felt like as a hunter if you're getting serious about shooting something you need to be 100
serious on being the best you can at it and that's why i started shooting target archery that's still to this day why i why i train i mean i'm not going and lifting training every day to to you know to
to go on to have this glorious body yeah before me yeah i don't post i don't post shirtless photos so
uh no i'm 100 doing it because if i get a call and someone says, do you want to go do this hunt?
I want to be able to go.
I want to be able to go right now and I want to be able to, you know, I've got some pretty basic rules.
I like to be the first guy out in the morning.
I like to be the last guy back.
And I like to, I don't know, I really, I don't ever like it when my guide is in better shape than me
but there's sometimes no matter how much I've tried to make that not happen there's some studs
out there that just like run mountains every day and you're not signing up for that shit yeah well
I would sign up but you can't keep up like some of these guys that have done it their whole life
it's almost like their their lungs are of a whole different anatomy.
They're like the Sherpas taking people up.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, it's a perfect example.
You know, you look at people that have like shoes that are like put on their feet
with duct tape or something and, you know, no long johns or whatever,
and you're up there in, you know know wool and down and freezing your nuts off and
got the best boots you could buy and you're still like oh man my freaking ankles i got a blister on
my toe and i mean then you look over and you're like okay yeah you gotta shut up here these guys
i have fucking scars on my heel from last fall when i did my first hunt. Really? Yeah. So I had brand new fucking boots.
And we did 15 miles a day for the first two days,
then had to scale it back because, I mean, it was wearing,
like getting close to the bone.
Andy had quite a beauty.
He got a heck of a blister too the first day.
And he taught me a pretty good tip, actually.
I didn't know duct tape worked so good.
I started just duct taping my feet and it worked really good i'm gonna see if i can find andy's hole in his foot
it was uh i just told myself i'm like don't be a baby around this guy freaking gotta get after it
uh it's funny you mentioned that though going back about not wanting like wanting to be ready
at all
times you know and i've wanted to get into bow hunting for a while and i've actually had quite
a few people tell me about you before coming on it you know and uh and i just had ben greenfield
hit me and aubrey up and aubrey's obviously got his book launched but he was like hey man
i'm doing i'm going back to to big island gonna go bow hunting. And invited us. And I was like, motherfucker.
I still don't have a bow.
And I haven't practiced.
And I'm like, I can't.
I'm a fucking liability.
I think they're going real quick, aren't they?
Yep.
He's going with Ryan.
Yeah, he's going like ASAP.
Like in a week or two.
Yeah.
Ryan sent me a message and asked me if I wanted.
I think they're spearfishing too.
Uh-huh.
Yep.
Yeah.
It sounds like the fucking greatest trip of all time. We'll get they're spearfishing too uh-huh yep yeah it sounds like
the fucking greatest trip of all time we'll get you dialed in today uh-huh and uh we'll see if
we can get you on get you on point in like a five-day training those trips it sucks when you
have to when you get invited on something like that and you can't do it yeah it was a complete
fucking bummer yeah you know absolute bummer but i also know from
experience too like there's there's just zero point right now you know it's like i when i was
on the ultimate fighter i was uh barely a white belt in jujitsu and i had i was on uh coach no
gara so one of the greatest heavyweight jujitsu artists is my coach for eight weeks he brings in
anderson silva leoto machida both black belts in jujitsu
and i look back on that time and i think of what a fucking waste it was that i wasn't a higher belt
yeah because like i would have learned so much more as a purple belt or a brown belt
and they had to teach me just a fucking dumb down like the you know like here's a guillotine
here's how you fight hands you know just like this is what guard
is yeah like shit like that you know so but that's that's nice to be able to look back on that and
then know like all right i want to be at a certain level so when i get that invite it's it's yeah
let's do it you know and thankfully aubrey's got a nice pad there's a spot to go to and and uh
we've got places in town here in austin you know it's a good uh good community in texas it's not
like i'm in california so there's there's plenty of places to go shooting and um yeah you're in a
great spot here you've got a great archery shop here um archery country's in town you can shoot
at aubrey's obviously uh yeti's got some cool stuff i mean you've yeti's great man they're they're freaking awesome
people man they've been they've been hooking us up they sent me out a giant cooler i was like this
just having this makes me want to go camping now like like just having this giant cooler
yeah it probably takes up the entire trunk of my prius but that's cool i'm thinking i might be the
only guy in texas with a prius but that's that's that's all good well shit i think we're
burning through time here let's get to these questions because you had some really good
questions people wrote in all right i'm gonna hand them over and i'll read them out and i'll
let you jump on it first and i'll piggyback on no one cares that i know about fuck that man
they damn sure want your opinion there's certain things for sure that i won't be able to answer
like repetitive stress injuries when it comes to archery well we don't have to we don't have to talk about that no
man that's that's her you're the fuck got the bionic bicep that's i'm sure people want to know
about that let's take it from the top at the top yep that's right up there at the straight straight
way outdoors asks middle-aged man asks doesnit offer vitamin supplements that are type one diabetic insulin dependent friendly?
Are there any techniques offered that incorporate Kung Fu or other Eastern philosophy?
I'm curious because I recently started Tai Chi for health and absolutely love it.
Is there Academy or trainer in Dallas?
So we don't have an Academy in Dallas.
It's, uh, I kind of want to tease this guy for asking if we
have Kung Fu. Um, but I'm taking this as a serious question. Oddly enough, I would make fun of Kung
Fu. I won't make fun of Tai Chi because Paul check got me in a Tai Chi. It's a fucking amazing
practice for movement meditation. So a lot of people bitch to me, like I can't sit in a room
quietly or I can't sit in a dark room or I need something, right?
So I tell them Aubrey and I are big proponents of binaural beats, things like that.
You can listen to this thing.
It's brainwave entrainment.
And that really helps with meditation.
But Tai Chi is excellent.
And it gets you outdoors.
There's something about being in nature, right?
Dr. Andy Galpin talked about that in his book.
And grounding.
Grounding, man.
Yeah, take your fucking shoes off.
There's no doubt.
Type 1 diabetes. I mean, we don't make anything medically available so and in fact we're not allowed to say
any one of our products uh but as a supplement in nature i don't think any supplement company
can make a medical clamp so disclaimer but uh aside from that you know i think that anything
that helps blood sugar management is going to be good.
A lot of the products that we offer from Power Food Active and Vitality, the recovery proteins, they're all going to be low glycemic, which will help.
Type 1 diabetes is a tricky deal, you know, because it's not like you fucked up and you got like you likely had it your whole life.
Right. But I would
say the products that have little to do with blood sugar that are going to be good are going to be
alpha brain, total gut health, things like that. Active B can help with energy production and
things of that nature. And then if you're in Dallas, man, just come down, get your ass out
here for a certification. You know, if you do, we do the kettlebell cert steel mace certs
any of these things and i'll talk quite a bit about those things as we get into some of the
other questions that we looked at earlier but those are excellent because you can learn something in
a weekend that you can take with you the rest of your life and people always ask me like hey you
know what do i do if i can't make it to the gym or i can't do this or i can't do that like buy one
kettlebell yeah leave it in your car or leave it at your house.
And you always have a gym with you.
You know, you can hit your entire body with that between the kettlebell and body weight
exercise.
You don't need a whole lot else.
You know, like that's, that's going to cover a lot.
Do you know, uh, Frank Zane told me that back when he was doing, uh, like boy scout camps
and stuff like teaching, he was teaching and stuff, he actually would just carry a,
he had 50 pounds on a single dumbbell that he'd carry in a pillowcase.
And he would, like he talks about the fact that everyone says
he's the most symmetrical.
He would do single weight, like single dumbbell movements
because he could carry it in a pillowcase.
So he just would do single arm curls, single arm freaking shoulder presses,
single arm chest presses, single freaking single dumbbell squats.
Like he would literally carry the stuff around and that's all he had to do.
And the other thing too is if you're in an area like Dallas, don't be afraid to, uh, to jump on your social media,
make a post of a kettlebell and say, Hey, I'm in the Dallas area. I really would love to get
certified with this. If we get 20 guys, we can have, you know, on it, come up and do a cert
right here at one of our local places. That's actually what one of our CrossFit places that were
close to me in Iowa, they were talking about wanting to get steel mace certification. So I
just told Isik, how many people do you need to be able to come and justify doing a clinic at a local
club? And believe it or not, if you've got enough people and it really doesn't take that much,
you can have the whole show come
to you and get a certification for that. You know, that's another way to look at it.
And you'll know that your whole life. You know, it's amazing what you can learn in a few days.
When it comes to the sugar, I actually really struggled several years ago with just, I got to
an age where my metabolism just really changed, you know, kind of my hormone
levels changed. And I just pretty much became hypoglycemic. And I went through, I got up to,
I think, 251 pounds. I gained weight rapidly over the course of about 10 months. And I ended up
getting, you know, I kept telling doctors like something's
different. I don't know what it is, but something's different about me. And it was pretty much,
I just hit a point where I wasn't producing correctly the different type, you know, my insulin,
my insulin, my testosterone, which all these things
are important when it comes to like your muscle receptors. And, you know, when it comes to sugar
attaching in the muscle receptor, you know, if you have a low testosterone number and you have
a high insulin spike, you know, it's a terror, it's a recipe for disaster. So I actually made some huge improvements. One in the supplements that I
take. Actually, before I used Onnit products, which Joe hooked me up with, because I told him
I was trying some other stuff. I'm like, man, I am like gaining weight on this stuff, but it's not
the weight that I want to gain. Once you start reading the labels, that's really the separator.
You know, when you look at labels and fillers, the more products that are on there where you
can't pronounce them, you know, those are products that are probably not supposed to even be in the
body. So really what was happening was, you know, I was almost overproducing insulin, you know, literally just turning into this big
fat storage machine and any type of sugar that I have. And I'm still this way. If I have sugar
for multiple days, like if I, if I order dessert three or four days in a row on a vacation,
I'll gain weight. I mean, I can, I could pig out on protein or whatever, or even high-fat food.
But if I eat sugar, I'm gaining weight, like right now.
So I started, one, paying attention to that, making sure I could read labels and make sure I could pronounce what's on the label.
But also, I learned a really good trick when it comes to helping manage your insulin spikes.
I always put a fat in my body before a sugar.
So in other words, like if Monday nights, two for one margaritas in Iowa, by the way.
So I know I'm going to hit a margarita.
So here's the two things that I was taught to do that have really helped.
One is, you know, when you're really active and your testosterone is naturally boosted,
you know, you help minimize that insulin spike.
So if I know that we're having, you know, me and my wife are going to go have margaritas
on a Monday, I'll plan my workouts to be an evening workout to where I'll literally
get done, go home, shower, get ready, we'll go. And that way, when I show up and have my margarita,
I'm still kind of jacked up from a good workout. And it really helps minimize your insulin spikes.
And then on top of that, if you put a slow digestive fat in your stomach ahead of the sugar, then you're also going to dramatic.
You bottleneck everything.
It just slows it down.
Yeah, you literally slow down this insulin spike so you don't have this massive crash.
It's funny you mention this because this is exactly in this book right here on the day with Aubrey Marcus.
Which part is it in?
Is it in the eating?
It's in the best way to drink.
Best way to drink.
So we time our workouts in the late afternoon, early evening.
No matter what your tool of the trade is, whether that's cannabis or alcohol, that's going to be best absorbed post-workout because your body's craving glycogen at that point, right?
And that's something Ben Greenfield has been big on is carbohydrate backloading right he'll hit his workouts not in a fasted state but semi-fasted
you know he'll he'll have most of his carbohydrates in the evening at dinner by doing that he's
bleeding off carbohydrates that he has stored from the night before still getting the most out of his
workouts but he has like this this man this might be hard for someone who's type 1 diabetic but
um for everyone else listening to this you know eating your carbohydrates at night if you're a But he has like this, and this might be hard for someone who's type 1 diabetic, but for
everyone else listening to this, you know, eating your carbohydrates at night, if you're
a carb eater, is going to dramatically impact how your body can use both fuel systems.
Using fat for fuel during the daytime, staying a bit more satiated from higher fat, higher
protein, and then still getting carbohydrates to replenish the liver and the muscle glycogen
in the evening.
But, you know, like we were saying earlier, if you start your day with a fucking donut or a bagel,
two hours later, carbohydrates crash,
you're going to be hungry for more carbohydrates.
It's just the way it goes.
So rather than going on that roller coaster all day long,
keep things maintained nice and even with some MCTs,
a little bit of good fat, some protein,
have a nice salad, something else to slow carb for lunch,
then dinner, you can hit your carbohydrates.
Wired to Eat, also a great book to read by my man rob wolf we had him on the podcast here so you can listen to that one um excellent resource for figuring out which carbohydrates are right for you
all right next can i get it jump on it jump on it but uh yeah they call me the avocado man because I always, before I'll even drink my first margarita, I always try to start eating some avocado slices just to get that food in your stomach.
You add a little sea salt on there?
Or you just eat them plain?
I eat them plain.
I can't do it.
I want the salt.
Really?
Yeah, I want the salt on there.
I'm a salt nut, though.
I struggle with that.
Like, I know Ben's big in a lot of salt.
I've never really been into salt, the taste of it.
So I have just enough.
But another thing you can do too, for those of you listening,
this is like we've talked about some nuts and bolts to a better way of,
literally, you're going to, if you decide if you decide, um, if nothing else,
here's a couple of easy fundamentals. One is something that I called having,
this is something that Frank Zane, um, started me on the very first time I worked with him. Um,
him and I used to trade archery for health, you know, consultations. And, uh, one of the first
things he did was he actually just had me have everything
in relation to sugars and carbs.
So I didn't change anything for the first year about how I normally go out
and eat at the same places and whatever.
If I went to my local burger joint and got a burger,
all I would do is immediately take you know, take half of the French
fries, slide them off the plate, take half the bun, put it off the plate. And that's what I
started with. Half of the fries, half the bun. Then it got to the point where you start realizing,
I don't really even like those that much. So you naturally start eating even half of those. So then
you get to the point where you're like, I'm going to give myself a few. I actually don't really need the bun.
So apply that practice.
Take whatever you're doing now and just halve the carbs or halve the sugars.
So if you know you're drinking three cans of Coke right now a day,
cut it down to two, then cut it down to one.
You're going to notice a big difference just in halving carbs and sugars.
Then the next thing is double the distance.
This is something I started doing on top of what Frank had told me in relation to having.
I started doubling the distance.
And by that, I mean every time I go to a parking lot, I don't try to find the closest spot. I park twice as far away as what I want to walk just
to get myself to walk twice as far. And then also try to do like your shopping or go through the
grocery store at double the pace of what you would want to do. All these things are like super,
super simple. They're super minimal. But if you're the type of person who's sitting there and saying,
I don't know how I can really change my life. I don't know how I can turn it around.
These are two super simple things and they will compound on one another.
Having, you know, literally cutting in half those intakes of those two things and literally doubling your pace in life and maybe going twice as far to get to something simple.
You're going to make a life change.'s just give it give it a month's time you won't believe the difference and it's going
to be what you see is going to be your motivation to push it one step further hell yeah brother
we crushed that one question nailed it
we're going over time here,
but there's too many good questions,
so I don't want to fucking cut.
We're going over an hour on this podcast.
I don't give a fuck.
Let's see here.
What are the best ways to improve metabolism?
I've always just felt so exhausted,
even while I was in the army,
really needing to improve this aspect of my life
to improve my overall health.
Who said it?
You got to give them credit.
How on 8569?
All right. Halon. Halon. my life to improve my overall health who said it you gotta give them how on eight five six nine all right halon halon
so i would say i mean there's there's a few things here one you know uh to try to answer
these a little shorter i'm going to just throw out some resources then we can still add in our
tidbits but i think a great way to shift metabolism is to work on metabolic flexibility which is a concept that Mark Sisson pioneered or didn't maybe didn't pioneer, but talks quite a bit
about in the keto reset diet.
And this is not a prescription for everyone to go into ketosis for the rest of their life.
I think that's bullshit.
But it's this idea that if we do an eight week diet, that's low carbohydrate, high in
fat and moderate in protein, that that will create metabolic flexibility.
So when we go back to eating carbohydrates, we have a little less insulin resistant. We're a little bit
better able to utilize that. Our pancreas has less workload for those eight weeks. And then when we
come back, everything works properly, right? And then of course, wired to eat, where we can actually
figure out which carbohydrates are doing the most damage and which are the best for us. Between
those two books, I think you can figure out a lot. Working out fasted has been an excellent way for me to drop
pounds. It's an excellent way to boost cardio. It's not the most fun. I don't have the most
energy after that. If I have an interview with John Dudley this afternoon, I'm not going to
fucking do fasted cardio first thing in the morning before that, because I might have a
slightly less upstairs for
that interview. But with that on days where I know I have maybe an easier day or a little less to do
at the office, fasted cardio can go miles for boosting metabolism throughout the day.
Yep. Well, another thing too, is Aubrey's new book, Own the Day, Own Your Life.
The very first chapter, there's actually very, very important principles to this.
A lot of times people don't realize what their baseline is because their daily routine could
slightly be off. For example, I saw a guy when I was actually heading out to Rogan's,
went to the airport, I got a coffee, literally got a black coffee, went, put full cream
in it. Nothing but cream. You know, I want to have some fat. The guy next to me, he literally
screwed the lid off the sugar and just started pouring it in. And I almost had enough time to like Insta story it. I took my phone out. I like unlocked it, hit camera, slid it to video,
and he was just finishing up by the time I hit play.
And it's like, dude, if you're that guy,
you don't realize the reason you're feeling sluggish
is because of the fact that you're literally riding this insulin train that is
a never win battle for you ever so um i don't want to you know i don't want to give away no
give it away we already talked about this so fucking hammer it home man yeah so and i actually
put this to use um part of the reason why i was having my morning coffee at the airport was because
one of the things that aubrey talks about is how you start your day different so that you
actually wake up the body. There's three parts to that and I'll cover just the one. The one that I
found to be one of the most positive was the fact that you have to hydrate first thing in the
morning and coffee is not a good hydration tool.
Hydrating properly, which he has a really good cocktail in there for a morning hydration.
And it's important.
Lemon sea salt water, yeah.
Yeah, it's lemon Himalayan sea salt.
And, you know, it's nice to mix it up the night before, make sure it's room temperature. And literally I get up and just focus on hydrating, chugging down
this hydration. And one of the things that hit home for me was that he talked about
a lot of times when you're sleeping at night, you know, you're in there sweating. I sweat a lot
when I'm sleeping. You know, if I'm like in a super dream state and I'm huddled up in a little
ball and I'm not like spread out, I can get hot, you know, and I'm
sweating and it's, you know, literally you're losing hydration all through the night. You're,
you know, and one of the things that he said that also hit home was, you know, I drink continually
throughout the day. I mean, I've, I've probably drank at least a gallon of fluid today since this morning. And this, since I flew left this morning to fly here into
right now, that's about the normal time I would have been sleeping. I couldn't imagine going that
whole time and not being able to drink, which is essentially what you're doing when you're sleeping.
You're not hydrating at all. So when you get up, your body's needing that hydration way more than it's needing,
you know, that coffee. So just changing your lifestyle that little bit to wake yourself
up differently can literally completely change how your whole day is going to go from there on out.
Yeah. And coffee goes miles farther when you started the day hydrated just giving it that break there's no doubt
all right let's one let's one run uh one more here
trying to think here i want to get something that specific
try to there's a few of these things coming in on odd training but there's one that i wanted to say
there's one question in particular
While you're finding that
When I came here
Kyle hooked me up with
They've got a really new
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At Onnit
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Yeah
I feel like
I feel like a whole new person right now he he stretched
me all across that table for an hour now i literally come straight into a podcast feeling
like freaking gumby and literally my teeth are floating because i've got so many toxins floating
around my body you gotta piss like a racehorse right now some shit yeah we'll hit this last one
it's kind of there's a few questions that are shit yeah we'll hit this last one it's kind
of there's a few questions that are all tackled around this and i thought it'd be excellent um
obviously i can chime in but this is definitely more geared towards you so we've got one on
supplements that reduce inflammation um obviously there's no supplement that fixes shitty diet so
cleaning up your diet it's going to help the most joint oil from on it's excellent supplement it's got fish oil which is excellent for inflammation along with curcumin which is the
active ingredient in turmeric it's a big one last plug for on it all right the rest of his question
this is from this is from the the braid of all or the brad of all brads oh gosh any advice he's
there's no brad that's more bradlier yeah any advice on shoulder exercises that could help
someone with a nagging shoulder injury say a slight labrum tear or bicep tendonitis not cure
but maybe help management thanks dude so i know you're the man for this since you're a fucking
bionic arm and we've got at least three or four more questions that are all similar to this so
hopefully we can bang all these out with one funny pick brad he's kind of a he's like a celebrity amongst my followers yeah yeah um i don't know that's a pretty loaded
question because i've struggled with both of those one of the things that i think is most
important when it comes to a lot of people assume that they have shoulder tears the reality is most
people most people don't really have tears when they think they do a lot of people assume that they have shoulder tears. The reality is most people don't really have tears when they think they do.
A lot of people just don't realize what inflammation and actually having callusing and scarring in a joint or in a connection point.
They don't realize that that tendonitis can a lot of times feel more painful than a true tear.
Like when I tore my shoulder, it didn't have near as much pain as when I deal with tendonitis every day.
Would you agree with that?
Yeah, there's no doubt.
In fact, I wasn't even sure I had an injury when I tore my right labrum.
Yeah.
Because it just felt fine, you know, until I was actually throwing punches or bench pressing.
Yeah.
So there's a couple things um
that are really important stretching and learning proper mobility movements are absolutely key
a really really simple one uh that works wonders and i actually heard about it on rogan's podcast
um one of the first things that i'll do is when I go into the gym
is I'll actually just jump up on the pull-up bar and just let the weight of my body, I'll just
literally hold on and just literally let the weight of my body elongate my shoulders and my
biceps and my forearms and my back. And just as long as I can hold on, I'll do it. And I can feel stuff moving and
clicking and self-aligning because just your natural body weight in that position, it's
actually a very, very good thing to do. But learning some basic mobility stretches, it might
be worth it for you to, depending on your area, if you haven't ever seen these is, you know, to go to a
physical therapy place. Um, there's a lot of different chains around and stuff, but for one
appointment, you could go in there and say, listen, all I want you to do is show me mobility
stretches for scapular rotation. Um, and also elbows, biceps, um, because for archers, those are going to be the main ones. And it's
hard over a podcast to talk about these, but learning those basic stretches and incorporating
those into, you know, for me, my fitness also helps me monitor where my body's at. I feel like I'm a good archer because my mind-muscle connection
is very strong because of my weightlifting.
And I don't do a lot of heavy weights.
I do a lot of negatives.
So negatives, I think, connect mind and muscle movement a lot more.
A little more time under tension.
Yeah.
So when I feel like there's a disruption there
or there's a restriction in range of motion, I know something's binding up.
One thing that you can do is there's like scraping tools that you can buy.
I bought some on Amazon.
And they're more or less just like flat plates.
It's almost, you know, they're in different shapes, but it's almost the size of a cell phone.
Yeah, Rogue Fitness has some.
I think we might carry some um dr kelly stirrett who wrote becoming a supple leopard
i first heard him on rogan's he's got uh mobilitywad.com there's over 500 free videos
all on how to detail your body head to toe okay using bands voodoo floss which was another
question we had voodoo floss does work it's fucking excellent i voodoo floss, which was another question we had. Voodoo floss does work. It's fucking excellent. What is that?
Voodoo floss are these rubber bands you'd wrap around a joint like elbow or knee,
and then you move through range of motion with that.
And it basically tacks the joint, the muscles at the insertion point,
and that opens it up by restricting blood flow.
You take it off, you get a gush of blood flow and oxygen and nutrients.
In addition to that, it feeds slack through the length of the muscle belly most people if you stretch and you're locked down say your hamstring is super tight
behind the knee and you have knee pain so you go to do a hamstring stretch you might stretch the
middle belly of that and so the analogy he uses if you tie a rubber band in a knot and you stretch
the rubber band that knot's getting tighter even though the rubber band is stretching right so we
attack the knot at the insertion point and that feeds slack throughout the entire system so kelly
has that website he also has becoming a supple leopard it is it's the fucking bible on body work
all self-work with lacrosse balls bands grass and a lot of these tools that you're talking about
and i think it's an
excellent resource for anybody it's available on amazon one way it was put to me that made the most
sense was you know someone said it's a lot like if you have long hair when you come out of the
shower you know if your hair isn't laying right you know you have to brush it through you have
to brush it to where all of the fibers are literally going in one direction.
Same is true with a muscle. When a muscle's working and it's contracting, the fibers are sliding past one another. They have to elongate, they have to contract. But when they're pretty
much like misaligned and scarred up or knotted up, you're not getting that full motion. And that a lot of times that's where you feel these hard, like cartilage and scarring areas. And like a really good shiatsu therapist will
actually break those apart, which is painful as hell. But I've had times where I would have bet
a million dollars. I had a torn pec or I had a tore bicep and literally go to someone like that.
I have a guy that I use every time I pass Tulsa.
I go to a guy named Lester Phillips, works at Body Masters, and all he does is literally break apart all of my movable joint areas.
He just gets in there and breaks apart that scarring. And it's a life changer.
I mean, it literally is a game changer. And for those of you out there who feel like you have a
tear, I would say focus on the mobility before you jump to the conclusion of thinking that,
you know, you're in a repetitive sport um actually uh Lester told me
that a lot of what he sees in my um in my arms are very very related to fighters my left elbow
always has a lot of scarring misalignment in the fibers and he says it's from the constant
hyper extension of the bow firing the bow firing he said same for punchers you know fighters where
they're just hyper extension hyper extension they reach out with that jab non-stop exactly they
develop that same thing whereas a lot of guys are constantly cocked with the same arm they have that
scarring in a different area on the opposite arm which is equivalent to me at full draw, you know, I'm literally, it's almost like jab arm is my bow arm.
Always throwing the jab, always keeping the right hand cocked.
And getting those few things worked out, you know, I go by there about three or four times a year,
and it totally, totally changes my life.
I mean, I think so many people are quick to rush out and want to buy the new arrow or something like that.
And especially archers, you don't see yourself as an athlete.
I view you as an athlete because it's something that is very repetitive to a certain symmetry of the body.
And that's going to cause misalignment. So getting your balance back in check is going to be
super, super valuable to, to longevity, but also to accuracy.
Oh yeah, brother. Well, where can people, uh, where can people find you online and where can
they listen to your glorious podcast? Well, they can find me online at KnockOnTV, N-O-C-K-O-N-T-V, not a K.
There's no K in there.
Yeah, there's no fighting K at the front end of that.
And yeah, like YouTube, if you want to learn, watch videos, YouTube, it's KnockOnArchery.
And I have a lot of tutorials, how-tos, all that good stuff.
And yeah, KnockOnPodcast. I'm going to have to – you're learning arch-tos, all that good stuff. And, yeah, knock-on podcasts.
I'm going to have to – you're learning archery today.
That's right, brother.
I want to get to it.
You're going to be on my podcast.
You're going to be my next guest.
So when we're done, we're going to pick up on these questions for knock-on podcasts.
Fuck yeah.
See how you ended up not missing any teeth or still have all the skin on your forearm.
Should be good.
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