Kyle Kingsbury Podcast - #388 The Art of Movement w/ Conor Millstein

Episode Date: January 9, 2025

In this podcast episode, Connor Millstein, shares his journey from being undisciplined in high school and college to becoming a renowned strength and movement coach. Connor has trained some of the top athletes, including Olympic wrestlers, but also works with a diverse range of clients including moms and older women. He discusses the importance of adaptability, the transformative power of physical training, and the concept of moving beyond just physical strength to incorporate holistic well-being. Connor also shares his vision of eradicating diseases like arthritis and tendonitis through targeted movements and training techniques. The podcast highlights practical ways to achieve better physical and mental health, including diet, mobility, and mental practices, aiming to make listeners more complete and happy individuals. Connor offers insights and personal anecdotes that emphasize the importance of continuous self-improvement, adaptability, and holistic health practices.   Connect with Conor here: Instagram Offerings   Our Sponsors: - Let’s level up your nicotine routine with Lucy.  Go to Lucy.co/KKP and use promo code (KKP) to get 20% off your first order. Lucy offers FREE SHIPPING and has a 30-day refund policy if you change your mind. - If there’s ONE MINERAL you should be worried about not getting enough of... it’s MAGNESIUM.  Head to http://www.bioptimizers.com/kingsbu now and use code KINGSBU10 to claim your 10% discount. - With Happy Hippo, you're getting a product that's been sterilized of pathogens, tested for impurities and heavy metals, and sold with a guarantee. We stand by our products so you can sleep soundly knowing exactly what is and isn't in your kratom. Check it out here!   Connect with Kyle: I'm back on Instagram, come say hey @kylekingsbu Twitter: @kingsbu  Fit For Service Academy App: Fit For Service App  Our Farm Initiative: @gardenersofeden.earth  Odysee: odysee.com/@KyleKingsburypod  Youtube: Kyle Kingbury Podcast  Kyle's Website: www.kingsbu.com - Gardeners of Eden site   If you enjoyed this podcast, please subscribe & leave a 5-star review with your thoughts!   We always love to hear feedback and are interested in what you want to learn. Reach out to us on social media! nitis through targeted movements and training techniques. The podcast highlights practical ways to achieve better physical and mental health, including diet, mobility, and mental practices, aiming to make listeners more complete and happy individuals. Connor offers insights and personal anecdotes that emphasize the importance of continuous self-improvement, adaptability, and holistic health practices.    

What's up, everybody? In the spirit of January, in the spirit of renewal, I guess spring's about renewal, in the spirit of redemption, in the spirit of getting your ass back on track, I brought on my super trainer, Connor Milstein, onto the podcast. Connor stayed with us at the crib for about eight days.

We recorded two separate podcasts to be released back to back. So this one this week and this one next one next week. And they're phenomenal. I've been training with Connor for now six months. Connor has an awesome story. We have many similarities from being absolute knuckleheads in high school and college and not tending and taking care of our bodies well

to the path that led him to becoming the strength coach. I don't even know if you'd call him a strength coach, a movement coach. We actually discussed that on the podcast. He's kind of hard to nail down. But Jordan Burroughs, one of the most decorated wrestlers in U.S. Olympic-level wrestling history, is one of Conor's clients. And Jordan introduced him to a number of the A-list guys from the U.S. Olympic wrestling team, and Connor was their trainer for

two years. So leading up to this last Olympic cycle, he has trained some of the very best in the world, and he's also got more mothers and women as clients than he does men. So he knows how to tie the differences between these completely different sets of people and really what works for everyone. He's just a phenomenal fucking human. I have loved the six months that I've had working with him and continue to, to grow and learn every time we get to train. So very excited to be able to share him with you guys, look him up in the show notes. If you want to contact him about joining his community or anything like that, or you want to do private lessons, Connor at ISO dash movement.com. That'll be linked to in the show notes, shoot him an email, tell him I sent you and you will, you will not be upset. You're going to be

fucking stoked to have this guy. He's not a taskmaster. He's not an ass kicker, but he will get you to do things that you didn't think were possible and he's just an incredible human i love the guy dearly be on the lookout we're going to be creating a super dope all-inclusive uh training for a week here at the farm uh to be held in august so stay tuned for that we will be getting those dates out as soon as we have that finalized and that will be a bit of the one-two punch from me and him uh sometimes him leading with me trailing and sometimes me leading with him trailing and and co-authoring but it's going to be fucking rad the more we talk about it the more giddy i get and uh the future is bright it truly is so i hope you guys dig this podcast and the one that follows there are many ways you can

support this podcast first and foremost share it with people secondly uh support our show sponsors they make the show possible i'll be doing these in you know all year long and for for podcasts to Support this podcast. First and foremost, share it with people. Secondly, support our show sponsors. They make the show possible. I'll be doing these in all year long. And for podcasts to come, they're going to be in the episode, so not in the beginning. And while you're at it, while you're taking care of your body, check out fitforservice.com. We are running our last summit in the way that we've been doing it here at the end of January. And then that's it. You can come for the in-summit experience, fit at the end of January. And then that's it. You can come for the end summit experience fit for service.com. Still, let's take us for sale.

But I want to tell you about full temple reset. Full temple reset is something I created with my brother Eric Godsey, which is exactly that it is a way to reset the mind, the body and the spirit in five days. We do fasting mimicking. We do sauna and ice bath daily. We all fast together. We hit mobility practices from Dr. Kelly Sturette and my boy, Aaron Alexander. And we do so much more on the psyche and everything else, which is Godsey's wheelhouse. As far as dream analysis, Jungian psychology, parts work. So much of this is just, it's like a plant medicine experience. You can't explain it until you've been through it, but it is one of the most life-changing summits you will ever come to.

We are capped at 40 people only. That is a maximum. And there are 34 days left. As I tell you this right now, go to fit for service.com and look up full temple reset. You can come out to our farm here in Lockhart, Texas, February 15th through the 19th in 2025. It is an in-person summit. All of the teachings, all of the lessons, all here in person. Nothing before, nothing after, no homework to do, no prerequisites. Just five days where you can give to yourself and change your life forever. Check it out at fitforservice.com. And without further ado, my brother, Connor Milstein. Connor Milstein, welcome to the podcast, brother.

Thank you so much, Kyle. Happy to be here, my friend. Hell yeah. We have a shout out to Claire Spencer, the mother homie of Fit for Service, who has been just an awesome, awesome, fucking amazing woman that I got to work with. She was one of the members in Fit for Service for a year and then joined us quickly after and has been with us ever since. We just got done teaching a class together for Fit for Service. And I mentioned this, but I want to mention it to people listening on the podcast that Claire told me I was complaining

about my neck pain. And Claire said, I've got a pain guy. I've got my trainer. He can get rid of your pain. I was like, no offense, Claire, but you know, you're, you're a mom and you know, like you never were a pro athlete. Like, I don't think our pains are equal. I snapped my neck going 45 miles an hour off of a bike, head first in the asphalt. And you know, and there's going to be pain there. And I've got ticky tack shit from deadlifting heavy and that kind of stuff and i was like well who does he who does he work with she goes oh he works with fighters and i was like well that doesn't mean shit there's a lot of dodos working with pro fighters there's plenty of them so he works with wrestlers too and i was like well wrestlers aren't those are the only guys that are more beat up than

fighters pro wrestlers or or she's like olympic level guy like all right dude all right i want to meet the guy and we've been training now for about six months first four months body weight only we just started adding in weights and getting really creative and i i've absolutely transformed my body you know my body looks as that was one thing that fucking was weird was that i wasn't losing muscle doing the body weight only stuff. I remain in between 222, 227. And strength has increased. But most importantly, athleticism has increased.

You know, and I mentioned this to the people that I've been teaching at Fit for Service. Understand your why on why you train, right? You don't just and you mentioned this. You're not just going in to get sets and reps. My why personally has shifted over the years. You know, I wanted to see how far I could push myself when I retired at 32. So I ran a 55K ultra. I tried to get to a 600 pound deadlift. I did a lot of things that were still in the light of be the best that I can possibly be. And, you know, there is a point of diminishing returns, especially when it comes to pure endurance or pure strength. And what I

realized is that I just want to be the best athlete I can be because that's when I feel my best. So at every age, I'm 42 now, I want to remain the best athlete I can possibly be. And as you said, something very intelligent. You're not, there's no gray area in between. You're either extending your life or you're shortening it, right? You're either advancing aging or you're delaying it. You're either getting better as an athlete or you're getting worse. And I can say, you know, in six months, I haven't felt this good since I was a pro fighter. And even though I might have had a

little more endurance, a little bit more strength 10 years ago, you know, like I for sure have better balance now I'm in way less pain. And that translates into me being a better father, me being better at relationships and a husband, me having just just a my baseline joy is better because I'm out of pain. That I would normally have like a series of 42 apps running in the background of my biology, each telling me about my knee or my neck or my fucking shoulder or whatever, right? Like that's always there eating up bandwidth. And to eliminate that is a big fucking deal. So give us, I gave you my background on how getting to

know you, but I want to hear your background. We're going to do two of these and we'll do many more. But two of these you're staying with us for the week. And I'm really excited to break these out. I want to know you, I want to know your life, like what was your life like growing up, I want to know about your parents, I want to know about all that stuff. And then we'll start to get into principles and things like that. And then by part two, we can really get into the nitty gritty. But for this one, you know, give me your life fucking story, dude. Tell me what was life like growing up.

I think before I even dive any further than that, Kyle brought up some really good points there, which number one was the why, why do you do it, right, and I don't know if he knows this, but that just made me really, really happy deep down, because he hit the nail on the head as to why I'm doing what I'm doing, so if we start from there, I think it's a good jumping off point, he said he could be a better father and he said he's more joyful. All right. And I think I think I want to be I don't know if I've ever explained this to you in full, but that is actually why I do what I do. Physicality, you'll learn in a second, is it runs in my background. I happen to know it really well and I love it.

So that ended up being the route of expression. All right. The route that I took to share my why and what I, what I'm really concerned about, what I, what I really want for people for this world is a little bit more joy and a little bit more love specifically for the, for kids, for the sake of kids to grow up. My goal is an elementary school. That's my vision. I had to work down from teaching old people that were obviously in pain to pro all the way through the ladder. My goal is to get all the way to children. So that right there just made my whole day. I don't know if I ever explained that to Kyle, but that's really, really important to me.

Um, and then the other thing that he, that he nailed that served my why is a longevity switch. He understood he is happy when he's performing well. He's also a physical person. I'm not telling everyone to go be a pro athlete, go be an athlete at all. But understand that how you feel, how you relate to yourself is going to control how you can relate to others, how well you can love others. And if you can't be in love with where you are, it's impossible to love other people, even your own family, even your own children, to the fullest extent. And in my why, in my belief, they deserve that. People deserve that. Your kids

deserve that. And that's huge to me. So I just wanted to make sure we took a second to put that out there before diving into my background. That's why I'm here, guys. There's 100% the reason. And first, thank you. Thank you to Kyle, your family. You guys have been unbelievable. The more I get to know you, the more I fall in love with you guys. This is a really special person. All right. And thank you guys for listening as well. So my background, where does this all get started? I was really lucky in where I was positioned in my life. I come from a very large family, not raised with very much money, not raised with a lot of things. But there was always a lot of people and always a lot of love.

And I was positioned right in the middle. I got to be the youngest of a lot of older aunts, uncles, cousins, even grandparents. I had a young family. Every two years, there's a kid. Your mom was one of 10 kids. She was the oldest. When you say you're from a big family, both my parents were one of five, which is a lot. I have a fucking huge family. One of 10, that's like frontier level

shit like you're gonna you expect your kids to die before 13 so you just keep knocking them out 10 10 fucking kids that's just unheard of 10 kids right rest in peace poppy joe he was my grandpa was it was a fun man fun man and uh yes my mother was the oldest of 10 i was the first born of all the uh so the first nephew yeah nephew of my aunts and uncles and so i got to be the baby all right i got to be watched by everybody in all from everyone i ever i put the square block in the square hole, yay, whole room of people. And then I started, you know, I had my cousins, little brother, et cetera. So then I got to be the oldest. I got to be the elder.

And that really helped shape a lot of my identity, all right, just being a leader, having to help raise these kids. Like I said, we didn't come from a lot of money. Everyone was working. All right. So it was just pass the kids around. And there was a lot of times where it was just the kids, just the kids doing their thing, being watched by kids, my young aunts and uncles. So I got to develop a lot of leadership qualities and really took pride in that at a young age. And as I grew up, my family worked in labor. They were, Grandpa had a plumbing company, right? So plumbing, construction, electricians, landscaping. He was laying pipe. Laying, but Poppy was laying the pipe. That's for sure.

And yeah, digging holes, laying pipes. So I started working really young. All right. Just the boys. We went to work. That's how they watched us. We didn't go to daycare and anything like that. It was go to work, dig holes.

All right. So I'll never from, I laughed because yesterday you talked about your first paycheck, you know, $4.50 an hour, $5 an hour. $4.25 an hour. Minimum wage in California when I was 14 years old. Exactly. Those are the jobs that shape you, right? So, yeah, I'm making minimum wage, right? I'll never forget that first paycheck. Come back, it's summertime, dead of heat.

It's me and a couple of my uncles, a couple of cousins. We're digging holes, digging ditches outside to plumb out houses. And I finished my first week of work, show up to my grandpop's house. I get my paycheck and I look at it's like 45 bucks. I was back breaking work and sweltering heat in Philly. Up early, home late, sweating. And, yeah, 45 bucks. And I look at my dad.

I'm like, Dad, this doesn't seem like a lot. He's like, yeah, you're making minimum wage. Tax is taken out. This is about right, buddy. I go, man. Trying to explain Social Security to you. It's like this won't be around when you're old enough to use it, but they're still going to confiscate it so they can pay the old timers. Yeah, yeah, man. Trying to explain social security to you. It's like this won't be around when you're old enough to use it, but they're still going to confiscate it so they can pay the old timers.

Yeah, yeah, exactly. So super physical, a lot of boys in the family, wrestling, fighting. It was just, you know, day to day. And then my parents were both in physical realms. So my father was a bodybuilder and a coach. He coached me in hockey. It was my first sport. We played a lot of hockey.

Loved that sport. And his first love was bodybuilding. No doubt. When I grew up, we were talking in my crib, life-size poster of Arnold Schwarzenegger above my head, life-size on the ceiling. And my mother was on, still very physical, did her bodybuilding, but also was into more Eastern medicine. So there was a lot of yoga she started teaching yoga very early in the game like we're talking 80s 90s and she was teaching aerobics step classes you know the whole nine the whole thing so she had them socks with scrunchies oh did she have the

socks she had the whole i bet you she still has those clothes somewhere tucked away in her storage units and um so instead of staying like paying for daycares and things like that i would just go to the gym all right i went to the daycares that were in those gyms i don't know if you remember if they had this in cali but the gold gyms here ymca is right they have they have daycares in them that are usually empty except except for your boy and his little brother. And there's no one watching you in there, so I would just wander out, check out the gym floor, go find my parents.

They're getting their pumps on. They come from the bodybuilding background. My uncle was really good. He took third in Olympia in the early 90s. His name was Jack London. That is phenomenal. Third in the Olympia? Yeah.

That's legit. They were legit. Yeah, they were legit. So I got to watch what it took. I got to watch the diets. I got to watch the protein shakes. I got to watch the anabolics. I got to watch.

I'll never forget. Rocky IV with Drago, right, when he takes the shot. Exactly. He's like, oh, theians are juicing let's go rocky's gonna watch his back we grew up on a lot of a lot of uh sylvester stallone a lot of sylvester um so yeah i'll never forget the day i learned what what roy rage was i never never forget that one i had i had a pepsi that i had put in the fridge that was warm and i wanted it cold really quickly so i turned the temperature on the fridge way up and i got a yelling at by my uncle that i'll never forget because i didn't know at the time i didn't understand but but he he was keeping his he was keeping his juice in there so and i had

messed with fucked up his growth hormone? Yes, I did. It's a very fragile substance. Yes, I did. Exactly. I'll never forget that one. It's, to be fair, like a $1,000 mistake minimum. Exactly. $1,000 in the 80s was really a lot of money.

This was his job, right? This is his profession. That's what he needed. For my Pepsi, which i'm sure pissed him off that much more because it's not like he could have any pepsis and uh then so my parents my parents separated at a young age i had i had lived in florida i was living in florida and um my parents split up my dad came went back up to the northeast i stayed in florida for a little bit until we went back up to the northeast so now my parents split up. My dad came, went back up to the Northeast. I stayed in Florida for a little bit until we went back up to the Northeast. So now my parents are separate. My mom's working as

a masseuse yoga teacher. And then my father, he started working in cars. He starts working in cars. He keeps up his bodybuilding, probably still hitting two a days. He would go before work after work. And I just got to watch that vigorous discipline. All right. And to be honest, I think the real discipline part was my mother. She's up. I'm waking up to chance 430 a.m., 5 a.m., all the different, you know, all the breathing exercises. She's breathing, dragging breath, you name it, right, and she hit it all day long, my dad just twice a day, right, he's religious, and the twice a day, my mom, all day long, so I got to see what discipline was, which was really cool, people

taking care of themselves as a priority, right, and of course, they looked the part, they were, they were ripped to the nines, look great, and working hard, doing the best that they could for myself, my brother, and then all the cousins. They had to watch her every now and again. I was probably eight or nine years old when I just bugged my dad enough to let me go to the gym because he tried to keep me off of lifting early in my development just so I wouldn't stunt my growth, which I did 100%. All right, y'all. Quick break to tell you about an amazing company called happyhippo.com. Go to happyhippo.com slash KKP and use code KKP for 15% off everything in the entire store. I absolutely love Kratom. I think there's been a lot of bad rap being talked about it from different people like Huberman and whatnot, but there are

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I was always heavy. I was real since I was a kid. I was heavy. I had to work really hard to keep weight off of me. All right. We'll come back to the eating habits later down the road. And Kyle was making fun of me earlier because I'm eating very slow these days. And you've got mad skills that I'm envious of. It took a lifetime uh so now i'm i'm

consistent right all i know is discipline in the gym i'm hitting i'm hitting you know monday chest day you know it uh tuesday back wednesday legs shoulders um and then it would probably be something something calf abs and forearms exactly something like that by by the end of the week two days off hit it again and i'm like clockwork right and i'm i'm a 10 year old kid 11 year old kid absolutely tearing gyms up and i was always athletic and strong so it really fed it fed my my, my strengths, right? Is what it did. It allowed me to, to shine, which became a trap later down the road, became a trap for me because, you know, what happens if you only feed your strengths, you end up with increasing weak points. So that, that, uh,

that's another thing we'll come back around to. And my mom, she's doing her best to keep me flexible because she's watching what's happening. She's watching me put on weight, like mad habits. She's watching me hit it really hard in the gym. And it didn't make any sense to me. I'm like, mom, I I'm going to the gym. I'm being healthy, right? Healthy in the 90s sense, which definitely not up to standard today or even at all. And I got good at it. I got good at it. So I took on, by the time I was 13, I was taking on personal training. I was able to build programs.

I had my Uncle Jack teach me how to run my teach me teach me how to run my diet teach me how to run a program teach me what good form as a bodybuilder was what the point was what the principles were and and i worked hard enough that i wasn't a bother to them in the gym which was great because i was like i felt included and and it was something i could do with my family and my dad and um they loved it because they're like holy look at look at you go like you're putting up real weight you know they kept an eye on my form they did the best they could with their knowledge to keep me out of trouble and uh i really appreciate those times i took on my first clients 13 14 years old my buddies that wanted to come start lifting.

And it was getting popular in the later 90s, early 2000s. And they're like, yeah, you know, we want to look good. We want to get girls. We want to be good at football. That was the sport we all kind of gravitated towards because obviously, you know, you're the coolest if you're good at football. You get the girls. You look the best. The NFL is always getting the most attention on tv and and my mother was trying her absolute

best to get me kind of you know do yoga get massage stretch take care of yourself from the holistic side of things she was you know trying to make sure i ate well stayed balanced in my diet she didn't just want you on asparagus and egg whites it was asparagus egg whites uh well steel cut oats yeah not even no it wasn't even steel cut oats at the time it was uh tuna in a can yeah it was tuna in a can asparagus and broccoli broccoli. White rice, which is a sweatshop. Yep, white rice is the next for sure. Yep, white rice. I'd throw some ketchup on there for bare, just for lube, just to get it down.

Boneless, skinless chicken breast. Boneless, skinless chicken breast. Oh, yeah. All the lean meats. All the lean meats. I was telling Kyle there was these Metrix. I'll never forget the taste of these. The Metrix protein shakes.

They had them in the singles packs too. That's right. I used to mess them in the singles. And the huge tubs. The huge white tubs. They were as big as my upper body when I started drinking them. And I loved them. Great flavor.

Looking back, I wonder if those and I loved them. Great flavored. God, looking back, I wonder if those still exist. Probably disgusting by now. So we had, I had this balance in my life, but I didn't listen. I didn't listen to the other side because I was, I was enjoying all of the parts of, of what we'll call the manly side of things, right? I was really enjoying it. I was enjoying that I got attention for being strong. I was enjoying the respect of the discipline in itself, right? And I'm looking up to the bodybuilders. So I'm looking up to these guys and I'm like, this is what I want to be.

This is what I want to do. I'm dedicated to to these guys and I'm like, this is what I want to be. This is what I want to do. I'm dedicated to this. All right, so I continue to stack on weight. I'm strong as an ox. I think I got, by the time I was a senior in high school, I was squatting well clear of 500. I think I hit something above 550. Benching 365 for threes, 375, something in that range. And weighing like, I was probably weighing like 200 pounds at that point.

So it was respectable, respectable numbers. And I'd gotten a scholarship to play football. And mind you, I'm a total piece of shit at this time, right? My focuses are wrong. My values are wrong. And I was able to do enough to keep myself out of trouble. Our rules were very simple. If I got into trouble, I'm on my own, right? No one's coming to bail me out. If I keep my grades at honor roll level, I get some help financially. And I was always working. I always kept my, kept my job with my family. Cause one thing I knew for sure, I could use, use these hands to make money. All right.

That made sense to me. So I did it. And I liked being able to, you know, I want to cut my dad was into cars. I wanted to be able to get my cars, soup them up, do my thing. So that's exactly what I did. And by the time I had gotten a scholarship to go play football, I was like, none of my family had been to college. So I didn't even do my college applications. I think I applied to one school, maybe, which I didn't even check if I got in or not. i didn't know how to but my the football coaches were like dude you know you don't have to worry about the application process no problem and i was like well you know i'm not about to go to the nfl so why don't i just go to a school that I couldn't get into academically and ride that out and see where

it takes me. So my best friend at the time, my first personal training client, best good buddy, we were like, Hey, let's go to school together. Like, let's continue that. We're tearing it up right now. Let's, let's follow this through. And that's exactly what we did. We ended up going to a D three school so that we could start freshman year and just rack up stats, right? I'm like, I want girls. I want stats. Let's go. Let's go, baby. He's like, yeah, let's roll. And that's exactly what we did. And when I showed up, something wasn't right, right? All of a sudden sudden out of nowhere, I have, uh, things like a schedule I have to keep that I didn't make. I have curfews. I have drug tests. I have all

these things. I'm not controlling my diet. All right. People, I'm not making my chicken, rice and broccoli, my steak. I would call the, you know, I'm 18 years old I'm pounding 300 grams of protein a day you know I'm tight on it two two three protein shakes six seven eight meals getting my getting my 12 eggs in like Ronnie Coleman yeah that's that's a job in and of itself you know you're eating every two hours oh yeah on the clock exactly exactly and uh not to mention how unhealthy i was this close to a c-pad machine at like 17 years old yeah oh yeah i was snoring loud enough to shake the house it was that my girlfriends at the time were like there i think you stopped breathing and i'm like nah no i don't even snore i don't know what you're talking about and uh so i was just, I was in a bad way by the time I got to school.

And when I got there, plus all these rules, now all of a sudden I have to follow. I was like, you know what? This isn't for me. Why? What am I doing? This isn't enjoyable at all. I feel like I've never had a rule. I've never had a curfew.

I've never had people watching me like this. I never had to, to be that out of control of my, of my surroundings. And so a weekend, maybe two weeks, I think it was like a weekend. I go to my best good buddy, Aiden. What's up buddy? And I'm like, yo, look, I don't want to leave you here high and dry, but I don't think I want to do this, and he's like, we just got here, like, what do you mean, we have this whole vision to go put together, I'm like, I know, but I just, I want to, this is what I want to do, went and told the coach, the coach, sorry sorry thank you for the for the chance i don't want to i don't i'm good here i don't want to play anymore and coach obviously his jaw dropped you know i'm about to get playing time as a freshman and do quite well at a d3 level and uh so i just went

back to what i knew started started making money on the side you You know, we had the juicy side hustles, selling all the yummy drugs to people at college age. This is what I knew how to do, and this is what my family did, and I just was back in my routine. So I wasn't really going to class. Yeah, no, definitely. That's an understatement. I didn't go to class. I went back to work started making money and

in all the ways I knew how I'm back on my gym schedule I'm back on my eating schedule so on so forth and and they couldn't kick me out of school because at d3 I don't know if you know this but at d3 schools you can't get athletic scholarships they can't give that away you can only get academic so they write it up as an academic scholarship and in such they can't pull it from you if you quit football because it's i'm there for academics so i took full advantage of that not on the learning side i was just living my normal life in this college dorm. And then that's where I started hitting, you know, I was still training in the gym. But because I wasn't doing anything athletically now outside of that, I'm getting big in all sorts of places.

You guys can see I'm not shy about my body. I put it all over Instagram. Stretch marks everywhere., loose skin everywhere. Because at that point now, the last time I looked at a scale, I was 267. Damn. And I didn't stop eating, lifting, or anything like that. At 5'10". 5'10". 268 was as big as I could get eating 10,000 plus calories a day at 6'3 and five eights at ASU. If I was training,

that's as I can never crack 270. Yeah, I got all the way. So I probably did crack two. I don't want to even want to know. I don't even want to know. And because I hadn't been to college and no one in my family had been to college. So I didn't know that you could transfer. I didn't know that that was a thing. So I was going to, my dad was like, dude, ride the year out. Just see how you like it. It's it's on scholarship. You know, we'll take care of like the loans for housing or whatever it was down the road. And I was like, all right, all right, I'll stick around um so I did and my ex now ex-girlfriend had done my transfer applications for me which she saved my ass looking back and when it came down to the end of that school year I had a terrible terrible GPA it was like 1.9 or something

like that actually like this you'll like this. My best good buddy did the same thing but stuck with football. He had a.9 GPA, so I had him beat still, which was great. .9. That's trying. I was like, dude, I'm not even going to class. I have a 1.9. You can't even fake it?

You can't even fake it? No. So I had two transfer applications that somehow I was accepted to. My ex was smart. She probably finagled something. And one was in New Orleans, Louisiana. And one was at Temple University back home in Philadelphia. And at that point, I was in such a bad way, right? I'm going to sleep at 5 a.m., waking up at 2 p.m., running my routine, dealing drugs, doing drugs. I'm drinking seven days a week.

I'm in a bad way. Nothing to tether me at all anymore. I'm not working. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not working real jobs. I'm not on a team of any sort. I've completely lost. And I was like, all right, well, one thing's for sure. I don't want to be around here. So I transferred to New Orleans and this this is another funny part I get this to the new school the first day and I walk on campus I've never been never heard of the school never seen it before right I walk on campus and I see this statue of it was a priest all right looking down at a prayer book and I'm

looking at this I'm like i grab my phone i'm like is this a catholic school day one i like that day one and my ex goes well yeah kind of it's a jesuit school it was loyola loyola new orleans great school by the way um and i was like okay interesting i just i hope they don't make me go to any like religion classes or anything because New Orleans, great school, by the way. And I was like, okay, interesting. I hope they don't make me go to any religion classes or anything because my family technically is 100% Jewish, but we never did anything religious. Other than mom's Eastern practices.

Right, well, tons of it was religious. None of it was strict Judaism. And, yeah, so at that point point right my the girl breaks out with me obviously i'm i'm fat strong for football uh failing out of school not working not making money i'm not myself i have no identity anymore and she breaks up and i'm like yeah that's that's fair i would probably break up with me too. And I'll never forget that long, lonely walk back home where I made that decision that day. I was like, you know what?

She's totally right. I am pretty much a loser at this point, right? I didn't have my identity to fall back on. I didn't have Connor the athlete, Connor the good football player, Connor the charismatic popular kid. I didn't have that anymore. And once I had lost that identity, lost the girl that I had basically transferred down to be near,

then I woke up. I was like, dude, you are a poor choice for for a female you are a poor choice for anybody and that's where I realized that it was time to make sure that no matter where I was what room I walked into I would be the ideal friend mate breeding partner so on so forth and and that walk home I'll never forget. That's where everything clicked. Everything came together. I was like, okay, let's compete then.

World, let's go. All right, and where do I have to start? Well, let's start with getting rid of all this extra that I don't need. All right, mass, fat, all of it. What do I need it for anymore? I'm just an average kid all right and i'm trying to learn i'm trying to be a student now i don't have football i'm out of my comfort zone i'm 1200 miles away from home family everything that i once knew and one thing was

for sure i was like okay my ex is smart i'm beating her her at that. I'm, I'm getting, I'm going to dominate this, this school thing. And I don't care what anyone tells me. And I'm trying to read, all right. I'm trying to read for the first time, really read and learn. And I can't, not only did I not have the endurance to sit down and read the focus to sit down and read, the focus to sit down and read, I didn't know how to, how to take information in. I didn't know how to learn. My brain was mush by that point. It didn't know how to digest this information. And that's what actually started to push me towards a different diet. Right. And that's, that's, that's the tomato conversation. I have a book I'm writing in the background

and one of the chapter's names is Eat the Damn Tomato. And I was like, always anti-tomato. Never. Not ketchup though. No, Heinz ketchup with the sugar? Plenty of that.

And because now I'm living on my own and in this new world, I'm like, all right, let me let me start cooking for myself in a different way so that my brain can be fed because now I don't I don't need to feed these anymore. Let me feed this and let's see how that goes. And I go, well, the people that that look like that I want to look like the people that are smart they seem to eat these things so I go to the store I get a tomato and I cook up some eggs and I'm like I'm eating these with tomatoes today not ketchup real tomatoes and i did i forced it down i was like connor eat the damn tomato because this is what has to happen for you to get where you where you want to go so i do and um

and that's where the diet changes really began some of the first changes it wasn't physical i didn't change my workouts first because i didn't know any different yet. I'm still running my normal splits. And then after that worked, all right, all of a sudden I had a little more endurance to sit and read, a little more energy to sit and read. My brain's functioning a little bit more clearly. And I take it to, I take that same focus now to the gym. I'm like, all right, I have to start shifting these pieces. Let's make sure that, let's make sure that what I'm fueling my body is good. And now let's make sure the use of that fuel is leading towards what I want to get down. And I had a hundred pounds pretty much to lose. All right. So I start running, I start running distances. And my body at that point was

so poorly constructed. I ran into all the issues that I was hiding from. All right. And it was already pretty bad. I couldn't throw a football without inflammation in the elbow and shoulder. I couldn't do a push. I could bench 365 for for a triple. I couldn't do a set of push-ups, 10 of them, without pain. All right? So, and it was bad. I couldn't scratch my own back. Couldn't wash my own back. Wiping my butt was tough.

All the mobility issues started to really show themselves. And I just ran into problem after problem. It was knees. It was lower back. It was shoulders. It was neck. It was you name it was lower back, it was shoulders, it was neck, it was you name it, everything cooked. Right. And I felt like I was 100 years old in an 18 year old body. Other way around. I was 18 years old, felt like I had 100 year old body. And now that I'm doing better in school, I'm able to focus on my body a little bit.

It was time to get back to making money. What do I know how to do? I'm already selling drugs. So what do I know how to do? Train. All right. So that's what I jumped on right away. And I took that on as an additional class, basically.

I was like, I'm going to start learning business on one side because one day I want to be able to go into the business world or work for myself. And I'm going to take on my body on the other side. And I'm going to start putting this thing back together. Well, as I'm dropping these pounds, I'm probably 50 pounds down, maybe a little more, maybe 60 pounds down at this point through the diet changes, through the workout changes. And then I run into what was diagnosed as IT band syndrome or runner's knee, right? Just chronic inflammation of the IT band, persistent knee pain. I couldn't walk at this point. I'm limping around college campus, not the best look. Limping around campus, hobbling upstairs, upstairs everything i couldn't work out at that point everything's uncomfortable go to the sports med doc doc's like dude you tore your body to shreds you've been lifting since this age you played football you play you you know you did track you did that you

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And if you subscribe, not only will you get amazing discounts and free gifts, you will make sure your monthly supply is guaranteed. At that point on, from that point on, I was like, oh, I'm headed for surgery anyway. Why don't I just start trying everything and learning everything? That's where I'm going. Let's see what I can do. And as I'm trying that with my body, I'm training clients in the way that I know how. And I'm starting to see changes in my body that I had never expected, never knew the things that could be affected through a physical practice. And now I'm running a balance of lifting like you see today, right? You see lifting, you see yoga, you see stretching, you see mobility, you see a sport here and there, right? And now I'm in this nice,

nice balance, or what I now call a fake balance. I'll explain that in a couple minutes. So this balance is working. I'm able to keep the inflammation down to a point where at least I can work out and keep at my weight loss goals. In the end of it, I dropped 100 pounds. I made sure to get all the way down to 166, 167 so that I could say for the rest of forever, I dropped a hundred pounds. I wanted that, that mark. All right. I'm dominating school at this point. I took on, uh, I ended up double majoring just because I want, I could, and I wanted to. You still think about your ex-girlfriend? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Of course. Fucking show you. Yeah, of course.

Double major. Oh, yeah. I'm racking these up, you faffer. I'm coming to get you. Yes, I do. And all the way to the point, I was literally valedictorian in my MBA program. Perfect 4.0 GPA. Nailed it.

Loved it. Really proud of that one. I'm working multiple jobs. I got internships. I'm all suit and tie in my finance internships. I'm babysitting on the side just because why not? Training clients. Started some of my first real fitness businesses when I was still in undergrad and then in grad school and listened to my mom. I'm now more balanced, more holistic in my approach. I'm ripping yoga three, four days a week. There was an awesome teacher and studio right by my house.

So I'm in love with that balanced practice. And what I found as I'm doing well, because come back to the discipline background, right? I'm hitting these things. I'm perfect in each practice. But I started running into issues where to get stronger, I had to give up some mobility flexibility. To get more mobile flexible, I had to give up strength. If I wanted to run, it took both things. Right. And that's where that balance actually wasn't the balance I was looking for.

And because one pulls on the other. All right. And that was my next big wake up. My fake balance. That was fake balance. All right. And that was the next big eye opener. And I was like, all right. All right. So let's think here. Is there a way to get it all? Can I have it all? Can I be looking good, feeling good, peak athletic performance? Because I still

want to be, I want to be able to perform athletically. of course right and still dominating in school still learning at the rate that I like that I've gotten accustomed to now and that's about when I was finishing grad school and had met who's now my wife now Anya I'd met her when I was in grad school we were down in um in New Orleans. Our meeting story was awesome. Couldn't read you all that one up if you had a million chances. It was during Mardi Gras, during a late, late night in Mardi Gras.

You threw a hunk of beads at her and fell in love. I wish it was that romantic. You wish it was that romantic. I wish it was that romantic, right. Full disclosure, you sure it's not romantic i wish it was that romantic right no no to full disclosure i was uh it was like four or five a.m during i don't know if you've ever been to mardi gras i haven't there was a time where i really wanted to go and now as a dad i'm like i think i'm good i can watch yeah that's that's the right decision try to make sure my daughter doesn't go it is that's correct it is every bit of debauchery that, that you could imagine. And more, it's a magical time. There's, there's not much more pure fun that you could have just, just release that you could have. Um, and it was really healthy for me

at that time because that's what I was doing. And I fit, I, it was a culture that allowed for that. I could dominate in all those other areas. But at the end of the day, people down there in New Orleans, they don't care about those other areas. I was doing that for myself. What they cared about is culture and food and fun and their families. And so it was just the right place for me. It was the right place at the right time. And yeah, we met, it was a 4 a.m type of night multiple days of drinking straight morning to night and uh i'm at one of my favorite jazz bars famous jazz bar it's called la maison go upstairs to look down because it was a three-storied saloon style bar it was a sick

sick place and i'm looking down to see if if i could if i know anyone see if i can see if there's a girl they're like yes sweet 4 a.m let's let's roll and nothing and i'm about to pack it in i'm like all right connor it's four go home dude go home and i and i get up off the balcony and look over and who do i see but one of my best good buddies and he happened to also be a dealer of the good stuff who else you want to see at 4 a.m right and i'm like i'm like yes and i go say what's up to my boy dive up and as as i'm giving him a hug and looking over his shoulder i see two pretty females sitting at the table behind him i was like who are they and he it's a big smile on his face he's like oh well that's actually my current girlfriend but she's single and the rest is history i went over sat

down i had a conversation we didn't leave each other's side since so um she's a big reason i'm sitting here today is why i even even went into all of. She's part of the reason I can be here and enjoy this time. So now we have, I have a life, I have work, I have a future, I have multiple degrees, I've hit the, I've lost 100 pounds, I look good, I'm feeling better, I'm managed, i'm well managed and i i have this this awakening this awakening to the idea of can i can i figure this out can i crack this code where i can have all these things because eventually when you're running that balance you lose time you know what that time commitment looks like right an hour for each thing who thing and being able to work and be successful and then have a social life, have a family.

How? It's impossible. So we had traveled for a while. We did South America. We did a couple months down there and escaped the world for a little bit, Anya and I. Spent all our money, moved back up north where our parents were. And that's where it came to a big crossroads for me because I have my, you know, I'm like living two identities, right? I have my buttoned up suit and tie finance degrees

valedictorian, you know, I'm ready to take on the hedge fund world and go make some money and um i get some job offers on that side of things nice leather bound pretty strong looking leather bound books but yeah there we go shout to shout to will ferrell um and then on the other hand i have a handwritten from a piece of five-star notebook paper ripped out job offer from a guy named Pete Mattis. Shout out to you, Pete. Love you, buddy. And he was about to close his studio. He had a little gym studio in Philadelphia. And I just waltzed my, my confident ass in there and was like, look, dude, you know, don't close.

Give me a shot to run this thing. All you have to do is pay me enough money to, to pay my bills. All right. Just let me cover. I'll, I'll live with my aunt, live with my, my aunt in the city in Philadelphia. And you just gotta, like, I gotta eat. That's it. That's all I care about. He's like, All right, let's run it. And I just lived in there. I lived in that gym. I rebuilt the business end of things. I did have lovely education and experience to fall back on,

which was awesome. I put together a little monster and let that start making money. And now on the side, I'm building this whole new idea. All right. I'm like, okay, I'm, I spent, I was there seven days a week, six, seven. Yeah. So probably seven days a week, 6 a.m., 5 a.m. mornings to 8 p.m. nights, just living in the lab and experimenting, reading, learning. I never stopped that rate of information digestion that I just, that I developed during that time in New Orleans. And the things that I started churning out in my own body, and then in other people's body was, was unbelievable. One, one of my biggest regrets is not having documented or videoed any of the old stuff, any of the stuff that I have you doing even today. And that turned into a really pretty business that turned into a really clean organization.

And I'm learning all the ins and outs of managing a team, running a business. The boss loved it because he didn't have to do as much. And he let me run the show. He let me run the show and and I got to be the face of it and the energy behind it. And we were a great one-two tandem. And when COVID hit, he had – this poor man. I had already taken care – it was Monday morning when everything shut down. And I had everything taken care of already clients were alerted on what to do staff was was all seated downloaded and ready to roll and he came in he's

like all right no one's getting paid first thing first thing he says damn right from the jump right from the jump right and i was like you didn't even let me explain that. I already were good. Like nothing's changing. Not a single thing is changing. Everyone is up to date and every operation smooth, baby. And that didn't that, so that didn't come to fruition. And I was like, all right, I think this is my point to split. I appreciate you. I thank you. I'm grateful for you. But I think it's time to branch out to my own. And at this point, I had a really solid training system. And I also had how to run the businesses. And thanks to everything that I had experienced through that whole story.

Thanks for sticking with me through that whole story. That's what we're starting to see come to fruition today. And the amounts of things that I was able to heal through that, through the same book, it didn't matter whether it was a man or a woman, weight loss, strength goals, cardio goals, pain management. And it just kept branching. The size of the issues kept branching that I was able to help and heal and then erase. And then people took it further. These people were monsters. I got to show you some of the old videos from people in the gym. We're talking moms, dads, grandparents, beasts doing what you were just doing. They're literally doing that, right? Beasts. And at that point, I knew I had something.

I was like, all right, this is awesome. It's time to start making some friends, reaching out and scale. And some of the first people that I had come into contact with, some of the leaders in the industry, right? And now I'm watching you guys at Onnit, right guys? Just for the record, I'm now sitting here speaking with and training with people that I watched as I was developing this. I don't even think I told Kyle about this. I've kept an eye on all you guys. I watched, I learned, I listened, I took in, and I got to see it over time.

And instead of just being like, hey, Kyle, take me under your wing and take me through everything. I was like, wait a second, Connor, you have figured a lot out. You keep going, bet on yourself and keep going and trust that you're going to end up in the right room with the right people. So I'm studying you guys, Aubrey, yourself, Paul Check, Naudi Aguilar at Functional Patterns, David Weck at the Weck Method, Gary Ward, What the Foot, a lot of the eastern side of things, studying actual religion and religious practices. And I'd already had the deep background, thanks to my parents and my upbringing. And at that point, I had cut off anything that was poor, even the most advanced practices, I had done them. So I had was able to wait out anything that didn't work, as well as

what we're doing now today. And I reached out. The first people that were really, that made sense to me, that I really enjoyed, was David Weck and the Weck Method. Because I was using their tools and their principles fit within my system. And they helped design a lot of the third layer

of that system, of that three-layered system and i love their tools i love the rmt club which which um i got in your hands this week they remade the dude invented the bosu ball the dude the dude invented the yeah david i heard he's a fucking rad dude somebody told me like he's into psychedelics like he's a really rad dude you gotta intro us that's cool 100 super cool he will they're like the third person that's brought that up and i'm like i don't give a fuck about a bosu ball i love it i own one you know you were sitting on a bosu seat knockoff right and that thing's perfect but um yes i don't want to i want to decide but it is curious to me that's like an extra ping where I'm like, all right, dude, I got to get into this guy. Especially after training with the RMT club is so fucking legit. David, David is, is, um, an absolute pioneer. He's, he's a fun,

um, ecstatic. He's, he's the energy you want in your gym. He's the energy you want in your gym. And, and he's a genius. He's a creative genius. He can go off the rails in that creative genius piece. But if you know who he is and once you get to know him and you understand where his heart is, he's a great person. Great person. Highly dedicated to making this world a better place. And so I started to get in with those guys and they really, they noticed that I'm not the average run of the mill, um, practitioner. I, I took care of my end of things. They watched me do, do my job and, and they appreciate the independence. They appreciate the, Oh oh you get it cool awesome um they could see it just in the

way i use their tools just without learning from them i'm i'm hitting the little things that are obvious tips it's like oh okay the only way you're going to know that is if you spend a thousand hours with that thing that you're not going to know that otherwise. And they valued that and became friends with those guys. And that's who introduced me to Jordan Burroughs. And they're like, hey, you know, Jordan is looking to make another Olympic run. He's moving to Philadelphia. And would you like to coach? I was like, yeah.

And mind you, I don't know who Jordan Burrows is. I've never wrestled a day in my life. I own the only angle that I knew was his rival. The guy that knocked him off of the 79 kilos, 76 kilo spot was a guy named Kyleyle dake another beastly wrestler he was training with one of my rivals in the fitness industry which was naudi and function the functional pattern squad who has me blocked by the way now he has me i'm on the next pattern it's juicy oh yeah it goes it goes uh back what what happened with nowdy um when i was in the development phase in the studio uh one of the companies i'd come across was functional patterns

and i loved it i was like this is awesome um this guy is this guy is is on top of things um his attitude's a little a little aggressive but, but I'll see past that. I'm looking at what he's created holistically. And I had commented something in Facebook. I was like, hey, I really like your stuff. I would love to get to know you and have some business conversations and so on and so forth. And this dude just made an example out of me. He railed me out in front of his whole community. This is what it looks like to try and jump the line. This person doesn't do the work. This person doesn't do the, went on. And I was like, like, bro, you, you don't know know what i'm you have no idea who i am you have no idea what i'm doing on a daily basis i could be doing your stuff every day and you're and you're

really like what are you doing and and once i realized he just was is on his own ego trip i was like man i hope you get the love that you need peace out i'm coming for your ass and from there on out then that was my next competitor right ex-girlfriend i'm gonna make sure that my program not only can do what yours is doing i'm gonna do three times more with three times less you're done you're in the dirt buddy um. And no matter what, even if your program was as good, you are not healing as a person. And at the end of the day, your culture is going to reflect that. And my culture is going to reflect what it looks like if I'm always looking to heal, not looking to be right, not looking to be some type of guru, leader of the whole world. Bounty or sensei.

Exactly. I'm just going to be a self-loving, well-oriented person that wants the best for everybody, no matter what they're doing. I don't care if you're doing this practice, that practice, this practice. I'm not going to come at it.

People think I walk around judging people's form. My wife judges, being a runner, she judges a lot of people when she sees them running improperly and and you're and she asked you you know do you judge people that run improperly you're like no i'm just happy they're running yeah i'm like see you don't be an asshole tosh exactly it's just dinner though she's not an asshole i promise i love you tosh i love you too tosh my wife does the same thing my wife does the same thing she'll we'll see people running at the park all right and she's like oh and i'm like i look over i look over i'm like

you're on your ass right now like you go yeah so so um yeah now he now he railed me out that day and and from there on i was like all right buddy noted so you get to jordan i get to jordan through uh through david weck and chris chamberlain chris is another guy that you'll absolutely love um david's david's right hand dude he runs the whole business for david he's he's uh pound for pound one of the strongest people i've ever seen with my own eyes actually chris chamberlain into, like, circus feats of strength. Like, that's his thing. That's his thing. Yeah, I've seen it with my own eyes.

I watched this man pick. I tried to pick up a sandbag. I forget what the weight was, a 400, 500, something like that. And couldn't even budge it. I couldn't even get it to budge. And this man just comes up. I was like, that just happened right in front of my face um so these guys hooked me up with jordan jordan and i hit it off we get along really well uh

and jordan leads into some of the other wrestlers right because now with jordan's approval it's it's a no-brainer for other wrestlers to go do it. Real quick, for people that don't know Jordan Burroughs and don't follow collegiate wrestling, Olympic wrestling, real wrestling, Daniel Cormier, who was UFC light heavyweight champ and heavyweight champ, was my wrestling coach at AKA and the wrestling coach for Cain Velasquez and everybody there, Habib Nurmagomedov.

He was the wrestling coach. He had been, even though he didn't fare well due to weight cuts in the Olympics, he had been on the Olympic team two times and was voted team captain the last time. So this dude, he knows wrestling inside and out, and he spoke the highest about Jordan Burroughs. He was, DC worshipped Jordan Burroughs as a technician and a wrestler. And that's to me like the ultimate compliment is one of the greatest in the sport

can look at another one and say, this guy's the guy. Yep. Yeah, absolutely. It was a, it was a pleasure, um, to get to train Jordan and, and, um, he welcomed me into his family, the great people, Lauren, the kids, and to the point where we all moved into the same building we all lived together for from 2021 to the olympics in in 24 and uh so i got to the last group of people that i really had to run this program through was top tier athletes that was the last group because you know they don't grow on trees right they don't grow on trees and here this opportunity falls into my lap. Last group of people that I had to make sure that this program was the best in the world. I made sure to get every bit of data that I could before I opened my mouth about anything.

If this program was worth a damn was top tier athletes. And then watching what these guys had to say and what happened to their bodies, what happened to their movement, I was like, all right, we're good, baby. We're good. And that takes us all the way up to today. I'm sitting here with somebody who I got to watch for a long time, right? So his hard work is actually coming back around to help him, which is which is really cool. Right. These these people are are pioneers in this industry.

They they have been on their game for a long time and they didn't stop. And that let's take that back to where my parents were. All right. Who are people that stayed with that with the old disciplines. They stayed with it, and I got to watch them fade out. And then we have somebody like yourself who was willing to evolve, willing to learn, willing to keep finding the next edge, ran right into me. That is, I think, really important to note because, like I told you, I'm not going to sit here and say a practice is bad. But I will absolutely read the stats as they lie. What led to longevity and what didn't.

And that is, to me, the fairest way to say something is good or bad. Could you keep going? Could you keep progressing along those lines? And one of the most important principles that has shifted into my messaging period is that adaptability is the key. Adaptability is the key. If we don't hold adaptability as the highest value, we will eventually fade. And that's why big shout to people like Kyle, people like Jordan, these are guys that if you look at them, they look incredible, but they don't take that as enough. They want more for themselves. They want to keep growing. They want to keep for themselves they want to keep growing they want to keep adapting they want to keep evolving and it leads to some cutting edge material stuff that like you you're

not going to be able to find what i'm doing it's hard to even find english to describe what i'm what i'm doing right what my role is kyle kyle tries to be like this is my trainer movement coach uh mobility coach this coach there's not even word an expert all right but yeah does that mean what does that even yeah what does that even mean and um that's why i'm really appreciative to be here today is because now we get this chance to define this and we get this chance to have more people walking around in love with themselves, how they feel, where they're, how they're aging, where they're headed. And that leads to, to that

relationship with themselves leads to a better relationship with everyone else. And now we're talking about making significant change in this world. And that to me is, is why i'm here all right that's what we we want to be here for so before i go any deeper into into rambling do you have any questions that came up off of the backstory anywhere you want me to take it no that was phenomenal i love i love where you took it and i'm appreciative of the depth at which you went into each of those stages, because I think the stages are, you know, they, they are what form us. Right. And so I love seeing where that spark was lit. I love seeing where the fire got lit under your ass at different stages and, you know, starting with the self and then, you know,

academia and then how that shifted over and all the different ways that these started to overlap and where you had time in the gym and then where you got time, you know, outside of that, thanks to overlap and where you had time in the gym and then where you got time you know outside of that thanks to covid like i swear like people would tell me like early on in covid like there's gonna be a time where we look back on this and there we appreciate the good things that happened from covid and i'm like fuck you you know like fuck you think kids going to school with masks on for a year while they're fucking six years old is gonna benefit them in some way but the truth is there's always a silver lining always, always, always. And, um, and I just thank you for that. Cause I got to know, you know, I get to know you better from it.

Um, I had a question here. I don't actually just wanted to, I wanted to continue with where you left off for people that are like, if you don't have it, you don't get it. Let me just say that. Right. It's like for the person who's never been in shape or never been an athlete, they don't understand how, um, becoming a better athlete can make them a better person. Right. And Rogan would say this, like, you know, you're, you're just, uh, I'm grumpy if I'm not training well and moving well, I'm grumpy when I'm in pain, right? I'm grumpy if I'm stiff. I had a medicine journey on psilocybin. It came up again on ayahuasca. First time I was doing ayahuasca, you know, you follow dieta, don't lift weights, all this shit. And so I went in

clean as a whistle, listened, did all the things. Then I was doing a decent, decent amount of psilocybin. But after the post-ayahuasca. And I was like, well, I don't need to do dieta for this because it's just psilocybin, right? Psilocybin is not quite as... It's not ayahuasca. Yeah, it's not ayahuasca. And so I lifted weights heavy right before it. And I could feel every fucking ounce of pain my body was in.

And not just like soreness, but it was like, I could feel the drag that it was, it was taking for my body to recover from it. I could feel the stiffness of it. And I could see, I could literally see the connection between the stiffness in my body and the stiffness in my response to my children, the stiffness in my response to my wife, the stiffness in my response to my coworkers. I could feel that. And I was like, holy shit. Now I'm not saying that everyone's a power lifter, a bodybuilder is an asshole to be around. Most of them are big teddy bears, too. You know, most of the guys that I've met have been fucking great. But for me personally, that interlock was undeniable. And so much can be said to when we think about the mental health

crisis, we think about how many women in particular are on antidepressants and you know it seems like if you go online and you say sunshine correct diet exercise sleep uh good people to be around if you put those five things up as an antidepressant you've got all these fucking ass clowns are going to come out the woodwork and be like oh you know you're just a you know whatever denier or you know that kind of everybody's got a comment there but the truth is when you hit those ducks in a row and it happened for me the same way when i when i hit rock bottom and attempted suicide as my senior year in college i was on all the fucking drugs i was staying up till 5 a.m i was going to sleep on xanax right i had everything i've learned now was just like damn i couldn't have gone more backwards and

against the grain from a neurochemical standpoint than what I was doing in college. And, but that, that, that was the balance that allowed me to start taking better, better steps for myself, better care for myself. And when I got an MMA, I got turned on a Paul check, how to eat, move me healthy. And everybody knows the story, but like, once I changed the shit, I read the questionnaires, I did the thing and I started changing my diet in organic following, um, you know, eating more fats because I'm a polar type and that works for my metabolism. Holy shit. Inflammation went down, pain went down. My brain worked better. All these things changed. Like if I can get that much from one fucking book, what else is out there?

And that book relit the fire in my ass for my whole, all my education that came beyond that, which is far more. I mean, these, these I've thrown away almost as many books as you see in the background here that were just on health and wellness, because I realized the creme de la creme is the ones that I'll keep. And the ones that were decent, but didn't have it all. They're gone. Those are giveaways. You know what I'm getting at? But that came from that. And for those that know, they know, right? You know that when your body is right, everything is right, right? Mental emotion is right. And even if everything isn't right, like I was just talking with my class about this, there's a lot of changes happening in fit for

service. There's a lot of changes happening financially for me, right? Big changes and a whole lot of question marks. And I don't see the light at the end of the tunnel, but but my practices hold me together this is the first time in my life where I've had a holy shit what's the future look like and I'm able to sleep fully every fucking night like there's no issue that's because I can lean on those practices because my body is right because my body's right my mind is right because my mind is right my emotions are right. And I want, you know, it's my goal that people can feel that and attain that for themselves. Similarly, because I know for everybody that's, you know, we're teaching six different things this year, spiritually fit, financially fit, emotionally fit, mentally fit, and physically fit. All of the guys have fit for service, right?

If you want to be an entrepreneur and become financially fit, what do you need? You need your fucking body. You need energy for that. You need a working, functioning brain. If you want to be emotionally fit, you need your body. You need all your ducks in a row so that you don't have all these other background apps taking up bandwidth, the pain signal, the worry signal, the anxiety signal. How are you going to emotionally respond with emotional intelligence EQ and be good at that when you have a constant signal saying something's wrong. Right. And so I've said this all year, but it really can't be overstated. And I just love that, that, you know, the collision course is

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that's that's where the majority is at that's where the majority is at and because we live in a in a world in a society that that there's no incentive for you being happy there's no incentive no one's going to say hey hey here's here's 100k a year for being happy and stable all right and that to me is a problem that is a problem matter of fact the opposite gets incentivized where the more you're willing to sell yourself the more you're willing to sell yourself, the more you're willing to give up from yourself, the more money you can make, the easier money is to make. And if we just think about that long term, where is society headed?

We're going to be fractions of ourselves with some money in the bank. Great. And then you're dead. And that's that. All right. So I think it's really important and valuable to bring up your consistency in your practice and the changes you've felt within yourself and

how that has helped you stay stable across the board right some of the things that that i've seen addressed at this point i I'm starting to put together. I'm going to make a run for a Nobel Prize. I'm going to start putting together some significant eye-opening, outward-facing media pieces that is going to challenge a lot of the powers that be. I am looking to get rid of, completely erase and eradicate a huge chunk of what disease is, a huge chunk of it. We're talking anything from physical pain, so as simple as some soft tissue inflammation, some joint pain, all the way to the removal of all the itises and osises from the body. Complete removal. So we're talking anything from tendonitis to arthritis, bursitis, bone spurs, stenosis, you name it.

All of those pieces. I have had multiple successful cases, some of them over 40, over 50. All right, so I've seen this now. And people like yourself are so important in that because you are willing to step up to the plate and try. All right. You're willing to say, this is new. How do I, you know, I don't know this is going to work, but I'm going to spend money on it. I'm going to spend my time and energy on it. And it paid off. All right.

And that's absolutely huge of you to have the balls to step up like that. Because what this program really does, what this really is, is a mirror. That's all it really is. When you are faced with real tangible changes in your body, all of us are met with a question. And that question is, do we really want those changes we say we want? Do we actually want to face what it is to feel good? And the answer I've learned for most people is no. They don't want to actually feel good. They want the idea of it. It sounds good. It sounds great coming off the tongue. But when you have to, when you're in the trenches and you see what it takes to get there, you realize where you're at and you realize where you want to go and you see the distance between the two. And when I was earlier in my career, I wasn't good enough to help people get through that pathway. And now I've had so much time and seen so many different bodies from so many walks of life go through it. I have resources for people to get through those steps and by creating and,

and taking those tiny little bite-sized steps, as you zoom out, all of a sudden we have unbelievable amounts of changes happening in the body, in the mental state, in the emotional state, and then all the way up to the spiritual state. It gets all the way to, when I say spiritual, anything from belief system to religion, straight spirit. It depends on what level you're at. I made sure to make this program fit for people that it doesn't matter what side of the spectrum you're on. Heavy Western side, hard science side, got that covered. Heavy Eastern side, spiritual side, got that covered. Because I grew up in the balance of it. side, got that covered. Heavy Eastern side, spiritual side, got that covered. Because

I grew up in the balance of it. I got to see it intricately and intimately and made sure that no matter what belief system you come from, we can all meet. Everyone can come together and understand that it really doesn't matter what English words you put to it. There's a feeling that we can all have. I use the word love. I just choose the word love. I think it's the most complete description of the harmony, the equilibrium that exists in the middle and in this place, there's the eradication of all of these diseases. There's unbelievable resilience and immunity. And then you take it a little further, there's athleticism. And I wanted to bring that all the way back to what Kyle said is, is if you've never been there, it's hard to get it, right? And he's totally correct.

To go into that a little bit further, what we want to realize is the human body, whether we like it or not, came from a time where if you couldn't move it, you were going to die. That's where we come from. What were those movements we needed? Number one, the ability to walk. You had to be able to get from one spot that didn't have food or had bad weather to another spot that had food or survivable conditions. You had to be able to throw. Why? You had to be able to hunt. What do think you're going to wrestle a wrestle a 500 pound bison down with your bare hands i don't think so buddy i don't even think jordan's gonna get that one done so you have to be able to get projectiles flung at a high speed and these

were the patterns the tools that we had what we had we had sticks we had stones we had um eventually we had some metals to make spears out of right uh and that's what you had to develop your body around so those tools and if you look back in history through all the way through you know monkey reptile fish you name it the environment formed us all right and if the environment formed us. All right? And if the environment formed us, well, what are we doing now? What is our environment creating? It's still forming us. It's still forming us. And if we don't keep evolutionary pressure in a positive direction, where are we going?

Cooked. So for anyone that's listening that's never considered themselves an athlete, it's just an English word. You are a human being on planet earth. Your body is designed to do these things. All you need to do is surface them to be able to experience a fraction of the joy that Kyle is talking about. You don't need to be the best at it. You just need to be free enough to do it. And once you gain that freedom and you start to feel what that feels like, to the eyes, it looks like the English word athlete.

Just looks like that. And I have plenty of people that you could speak to to prove it if you would like to if not just watch this man over the next few years and watch where his body goes you don't need to take his words for it you he will show it I guarantee it and I think it's really um valuable to talk about because you you come to this identity, right? And yes, you and I, we happen, people ask me this all the time, Connor, do you trip out a lot? Basically, is what they'll ask me because everyone has their own ideas. And I very purposefully to this point kept a very neutral, very balanced approach so that I didn't, I wanted to make sure that this

system could work for everyone. I wanted to make sure that it was inclusive and it wasn't based on an identity at all. And what that came to, so yes, the answer is yes. I've done tons. I come from a background of my family is heavy into drugs. I came up heavy. Drugs and I have a great relationship, put it that way. I've never been as clean in my life as I am now.

So I'm freaking pristine right now. And Kyle and I, right, we happen to have this background and a lot of these awakenings were helped. We're helped with medicine, which is great. But you don't need to do that. You don't need to do that. This spark can be from so many different things and if it's going to come without help and if you want it to come just from the inside i come back to gratitude this idea where you are lucky enough to be here right now

right the odds of us being here right now are impossible. How did we get here? There's infinite ways it could have gone a different way. All right, but here we are. And not taking advantage of this opportunity, I think, is one of the biggest disservices we can do to ourselves, families, loved ones. I believe that we owe it to ourselves and our families and whatever got us here to explore it and see it through. And one thing that we can all agree on is that it's easier when we feel better. It's a very simple thing. And you don't need to consider yourself

as a certain identity to feel better. All right, in Western medicine now, being pain-free is like a right. All right, it's basically become a right. Oh, you don't feel good? Here's this. You don't feel good? Here's this.

Here's this. Yeah, it was a malpractice if you didn didn't give somebody said they were in pain and you didn't give them pain medicine yeah exactly that's what sparked the whole opiate and you know the opiate takeover whatever the fuck you want yeah yeah exactly so now um yeah i i hit the nail i hit where i wanted to hit with that one and the a question i have for you kyle is some of the changes that you've started to see in your body right the things that he that surprised him he already mentioned so sustaining muscle the positive trend on the pain, right? Not eradicated positive trend, the balance that you've picked up, right? Were these things that you would have expected that they feel how you would have expected? No, you know, when we first started pain was like number one on the list because even with correct technique and things like that, and just the mileage I have on my vehicle, you know, if I could deadlift correctly and do things

like that, I'd be either sore longer than I wanted to be even running an easy strength program, you know, or just out of the, out of the blue, go to bed. And the next day my neck is fucked, you know? And so like this, I think that's happened once when I was from sleeping on a different bed. Right. But in six, once in six six months instead of once a week, it's a big difference. For me, having been an elite-level athlete, I remember the feeling in my body, the control of the body. It's like if you drive a fucking truck and then you get into a sports car, you immediately feel the difference in that, right? And I remember the sports car field. And so getting some of that back,

because I'm still boxing and kickboxing twice a week, I feel completely different. I feel like my old self when I was in camp. You know, this happened maybe a few times since retirement. And I always questioned like, damn, learning this now, should I get back in it? You know, and just like, no, no damn learning this now should I get back in it you know and just it was like no no I don't need to get back in it um but there are certain things that I love and certain things that I'll always do I'll be a lifelong martial artist because it

scratches a certain itch I can't get just from weights right but what I've discovered in your training is that I'm I'm doing shit that I didn't know I wanted to do and didn't know I needed to do at the same time. And the benefit of that is I'm lighter on my feet. I feel just I can fucking dance, which sounds weird, you know, but like I feel like I can dance. And fighting in and of itself is a dance. You know, like the sweet science boxing is a dance, right? Your footwork, your movement, how easy you glide. That's all a dance, you know, like the sweet science boxing is a dance, right? Your footwork, your movement, how easy you glide. That's all a dance.

And, and I have opportunities to dance a fit for service, you know, realistically where it's like, you're, you were there to fucking dance our ass off. You know, that's, that's one or two nights at every summit. It's all systems go. And so, um, but I'll dance with the kids, you know, we frequently put music on and we'll have a dance party and it feels so good to not be limited by my body. It feels so good to not be limited by my pain or not limited by stiffness.

Um, there has been times where, you know, pre before you prescribed it, I would go for a run and I'd pull a calf and that's directly due to being in a certain stance for 10 years, right? The, the, the changing of my body that happens structurally from that. And it is an uphill battle, getting that to reverse. But I think what's good about that is I don't see this as such a giant gap, because I already am experiencing many of the benefits of being a better athlete, of being lighter on my feet, of being, having way less pain on most days, you know and and having the joy of doing a movement practice that still leaves energy left in the tank right like the anahata said you know when you do a

medicine practice plant medicines strength training whatever that medicine practice is does this leave me more whole than when i started and i really feel that way for my training now and it also translates into when i'm kickboxing right i i feel fucking just way better when i finish i'm invigorated whether i do that first thing in the morning or early afternoon usually i don't let work out too late but that i always feel better from that it shifts the neurochemistry and it doesn't come at a cost right where my training before i might take two steps forward but because of the energy demands and the pain and the soreness, I'm going to feel I'm taking a step back without realizing it two steps forward, one step back. Now I'm taking two steps forward. I'm not taking backwards steps. And that that's, that's incredibly

different from any way that I used to train for 42 years. Right? Like I just, I don't have that in the memory bank. I have what it felt like to be a teenager and have that recovery. I have what it was like to be in college on fucking all the gear on earth. You know, couldn't break a bone, couldn't get hurt. You know, I know those feelings. But to be this old, and it's, you know, it's not that old, but to be this old athletically and to still feel almost equal to my prime in many respects, that's, I didn't expect that.

That's really cool. Yeah. You brought up a couple good points in there. One, I'm not going to tell people not to do things. All right? I will always explain where your level is, right? And always be upfront about what your ability is. And I always let people that are willing to go through the mistake of working above their current body's access level. I'll always let you do it because as long as you can

deal with the aches and pains of those mistakes, I'll let it roll because you learn faster. It becomes clear, objective, and obvious. It's like, okay, this lunge exercise, I'm sweating and shaking. Of course, when I go to go full sprint, aka a bunch of lunges all together, if I don't do it absolutely perfectly, something's going to happen. And it just becomes obvious. It's in your face. It's like, all right, got got it i see where my work has to be let's go all right and as opposed to like it drives me so crazy when people are doing things that works and they cut off everything else that they were doing the meaning was the thing working or did you just stop and now all of a sudden you feel better because you stopped everything else. All right. Cause I'm willing to bet it's cause you stopped.

And in that light, I won't people do I, people ask me, do I have to stop everything I'm doing? I'm like, absolutely not. Please continue what you're doing because it gives you an obvious read, right? That becomes your baseline metric. Okay, every time I do kickboxing, I'm feeling a little bit better. Okay, the better calibrated I come into kickboxing, the better I feel leaving. And you start putting these things together, this frame together in your mind where you understand. You understand where you are. You understand what you need to do. You understand why you're doing it. You understand the benefits. You understand what happens if you

don't. You understand the risks. And I'm not an easy teacher. I let you learn the lessons that you need to be learned. And through that, you're accelerating your process without realizing it. You're taking care of things that would have arisen years later, maybe when I'm not even in the picture. You're taking care of them now. And you're giving me the opportunity to be able to teach you that. And yeah, it needs to be seen repeatedly to really be understood, honed in, and mastered. Because I'm not somebody who's going to let you walk around at quarter mastery and think that you think that you have the whole world figured out. I've, I've lived through the

dangers of mastering being stuck at purple, purple belt. I think, and you can run the show. Exactly. Yeah, exactly. White belt with me, even,. And the other really valuable part that Kyle was getting at there is walking away from the activity better at everything else versus worse. Because when I would go to the gym, train my ass off, right? I'm supplemented to the nines, ready to roll. And you wake up the next day and need double the amount of pre-workout because you're jacked up. Yeah, your CNS is fucked. Exactly. And that's a loop that you don't want to be in. You want to walk away from your workout feeling more prepared

than when you went in, more prepared. And the combat sport itch, that's a smart itch, by the way. Take it from someone who did some stupid things when they were younger, when I could have just learned a lot of these lessons by just taking on a harder sport. I don't know if you feel the same way, but in my opinion, football was easy to be good at. Oh, no question. I've said this point before.

In football, I could go out, and I was young too, but I could go get hammered and come home when the bar is closed, go to sleep, roll out of bed at 445, make it on the field, get through wind sprints, go in and PR in the gym. Yep. Right. And then, you know, take a nap and make it to half my classes and shit would still work fine. I could go out and party on the weekend. I wasn't playing in games either, but, but I could still play my ass off during the week. You know, whereas in fighting, even though I still still partied it would take me two or three weeks like I could only entertain the idea of having a drink or off with worse stuff when it was

after a fight every camp I was like you know Jehovah's Witness fucking like there was I was I didn't I didn't put a drop alcohol in my body I didn't even watch TV right I was reading every day I was that's when the education piece TV, right? I was reading every day. That's when the education piece came in. You know, I was meditating every day, doing breath work every day because I knew if I fuck off one time, I could see guys that would drink during camp and they wouldn't get stupid. You know, they wouldn't do John Jones shit.

Like, that guy's a freak of nature. But, I mean, I was like, I don't understand. It would take me days to feel my best, to feel the sports car energy again if i just went out and had a few beers days to feel better right and so that to your point the intensity of what's required to put yourself at that level as a fighter knowing also nobody's going to watch me demo what i know in striking and jujitsu without a partner.

I'm not going to get a belt promotion by punching some fucking wood blocks and a slap pad, right? Like I've got a guy that's going to try to knock my fucking face in three days a week. Oh, and these guys are also world champions in the UFC, right?

Cain Velasquez, Luke Rockhold, Daniel Cormier, Mike Kyle, right? Like that, that's who, that's who's going to, that's the iron that sharpens iron. Exactly.

And, and, um, what I wanted to pull out of that was that the, again, I'm not going to tell people what activities to do, but there is a hierarchy of what's the most valuable. That's for sure. And the top tier will always be running, number one, fighting, number two, throwing, swimming, climbing, right underneath that. And if we're not featuring those activities, I call them the fundamental movement patterns, right? The things that led to our survival at one point in time that we needed to be able to do otherwise we were not surviving pickleball's not on the list don't even get me started with the pit don't even get me started

we gotta play some pickleball while you're in town we we can we can bang with some pickleball no pickleball is not on that list. It's on the top five? No. That's funny. No, the sports that – pickleball, I'm not coming at any of my – most of my friends play pickleball. I love you guys. It's massive in Austin. It's huge.

And at the farm. It's an epidemic. Why? Why is it an epidemic? Because you don't need a high level of athleticism to be competitive at it. It's one of those things that can feed you and make you feel good about getting that W without having to be athletic. All right. I make, actually, I'm a fan of pickleball.

You know why? Because I end up getting clients. Because they all go play, because you can. It's accessible. And then they end up with inflammation so then i get a call hey i was playing pickleball my knees hurt what do i do all right and i'm like oh yeah pickleball pickleball is taking them down taking them down one by one and uh the in that hierarchy of sports it's you don't even you want to try and remove the sport from it and just think about the motions and in that hierarchy of sports, you want to try and remove the sport from it.

Just think about the motions. Think about the motions that you're going through, or if not, think about the fatigue levels that you see after you do it. And there's just certain things you could do, eating poorly, sleeping poorly, drinking poorly, you name it, and still be, it'll still be fine. It'll still be competitive. Then there's other things that if you come in with poor habits, you're done. Absolutely cooked. Can't even sustain a day of it. Not even a day. Even if you're young.

Even if you're young, you might be able to get it two days, three days in a row when you're young, but you're going to start sucking by day three. If it's fighting, sucking means getting your face punched in. That's not fun. Then you start seeing people shy away from these top tier sports because those are the hard ones. Combat sports, running, the things people want to do the least and by just going through this program if you can reconstruct your body so that fundamental movements are food your body wants you can step into combat sports and with a smile you can have fun with it because you don't feel afraid. You don't feel fragile.

And I was my own, jujitsu was my own test of that for myself. By the time I left contact sports, so say football, stuff like that, by the time I left that, I was busted. I couldn't do a damn thing. I remember lining up i was either middle linebacker or a nose guard and three plays in three plays so less than five less than three minutes right my legs felt like bricks they would they would uh pump my legs would literally get a pump just from playing for a couple downs. And three minutes of practice, I'm cooked.

My brain and body were so wired to the stress of going to the gym, lifting, even stretching, even stretching, that it didn't remember how to be a human being athlete it didn't know how to do it anymore the responses were all off so combat sport getting back to that was a big hurdle for me getting good enough at moving, understanding to be able to step back into combat sports without pain was a humongous hurdle. And I'm not going to sit here and tell people to go to combat sports, but I am going to say that is the top tier. And if you are willing to push to that goal, you'll be, you'll find tons of golden nuggets along that journey. You don't have to go wrestle. Right. And of course, my friend at this point, my friends, I go wrestle. These guys are Olympians. Sorry. I go, I go roll.

These guys are black belts. I go strike. These guys are pro fighters. So I happily get my ass kicked. I'm proud to get my ass kicked because I'm not doing it to beat the best people in the world at their sport. That's ridiculous. You guys have been doing this for 20 years. I'm not just going to step in after five years and be good. I'm going to have to work my way up to that. But just to be able to enter that arena and be confident and fearless and not limited in my own ability, I leave with a big smile. And I'm able to do it again the next day. And even if I never rank up in Jiu-Jitsu

because I don't follow the exact class, I never go to Gi class. And on top of that, I'm not consistent with... You're going to like gi, I promise. ...showing up. No, I did... You're going to like gi.

Gi is great, especially as you age. Gi is awesome. It was nice to get me... In the beginning, I was only going to gi classes. I was scared of the no-gi classes. I was only going to gi classes. And that's because I wanted the slower pace, actually. I wanted the comfort of that arena.

And that was the test to put the stamp on, okay, this program can get me from busted, out of shape, in pain, overweight, surgery headed, depressed, addicted, all right, all understanding these things, I get to sit here and speak with you about where you are going, right? About where your body's going. You have no idea how, how bright your, this, you have no idea how bright your future is yet. And this mirror that you get to have held up to you is telling the truth is what's happening.

I get to learn the truth of who people are when they go through this program. It's impossible to make the changes that most people want to make in their bodies without knowing the truth, without being honest, being vulnerable. And when you see that, when I get to see that, it puts a big smile on my face. Because when you see a real person, I can promise the world and still over deliver you're you have no idea where where this is going for yourself what your body's capable of what i can i think i'm going to go ahead and stamp it on on camera here and say that you will feel better in the next two years in mma than you did at peak form fuck yeah yeah i'm confident to stamp that because i've now seen the ins and outs i've now seen your family i've seen the way you're living i've seen what you're doing in your body i've seen where what your habits are and where things are

headed. And if you basically, you just have to not quit. It's as simple as that. This is all you have to do is not quit. And what you'll find for yourself, you would have never imagined because now I get to sit here. I'm living that. I would have never imagined sitting here having this conversation 10 years ago, eight years ago, call it, 25, eight years ago. I'm sitting in this lab making five bucks an hour again. That was funny. I went back to making five bucks an hour when I first started running the studio. Three degrees, including a master's, I'm making five bucks an hour.

Watching you guys, learning, guys learning listening reading digesting and now i get to sit here doing something that i never would have thought i've been doing i have no business being in the room with these high level athletes i have no business being there and now that now looking back i'm holy shit, I do have business being here. And it was had nothing to do with the things I thought it did. It was just the honesty, the leadership qualities, the drive, the compassion and passion. These are the characteristics that I aim to build in people. And like I told you, I, I love physical routes and it's in my background. It's in my family. It's in my blood. So this is the route that I chose to express that and teach that through. And I think this would be an awesome

place to pause this, this conversation. Well, I do want to, if people are fucking interested, um, we'll link to all your stuff in the show notes. Your Instagram is awesome to follow because you get to see for yourself what does it actually look like when you can move like the way that you move. Right? And it's fucking impressive. Like, I look at having had a chance to use some of the tools that you use, it looks as effortless as walking. Or if you watch, you know, someone on dancing with the stars that has a salsa background and you're just like, damn, this dude knows how to move. Right. Like that's what I see when I look, when I watch your videos and, and it's not

something, I mean, you've said it already, but 50 year old, 60 year old people, women, you know, older men that, that are achieving these same movement skills through the practice, right? It is attainable. Um, tell us your Instagram, tell us your website. People want to jump in. I want to leave them with that. And then we'll obviously, we're going to hit round two in a few days here and then it'll come out one week after this episode. Yeah, totally. I think this is a great place to deposit going into the characteristics and and what is woven into into um what we call high performers what we call what we look up to as as pro athletes or um top tier doctors and thank you kyle for the shout so the instagram that i run most of my stuff through is Connor, C-O-N-O-R underscore moves. That is my personal Instagram.

I show everything that I do in my life on there. It's really important to me that I don't delete a post. I've never deleted a post on there. If you scroll to the bottom, you'll see parts of this story. You'll see it start in New Orleans. You'll see it carry all the way through to today. You'll see the work with the wrestlers. You'll see all of it, guys.

I laid the whole story out so that when it came to times like this, nobody could question it. I want it to be attainable is the right word. Accessible is a word you'll hear me use all the time. The accessibility of this learning is I have it at the best it's ever been and you will So I shorten it to ISO Movement. ISO-movement.com is where I house all of the different services. You guys will see everything from one-on-one coaching to group programming to events and certification. So I think that there is something for you in there, no matter who you are. I even went so far as to put self-guided courses on that website. If you are someone that just wants to dip a toe in or look at a course, hear me speak, see me how I would teach this, go check it out. I think you'll really enjoy any route that you take is leading you to these goals that Kyle and I are speaking about today.

It doesn't matter how you get on the highway. You just have to get on and begin moving those feet. So thank you again, Kyle, and I look forward to Friday. Fuck yeah, brother.