Kyle Kingsbury Podcast - #403 Body, Mind & Spirit: A Deep Dive Into The Rising w/ Conor Millstein

Episode Date: April 26, 2025

In this podcast episode, Connor Millstein returns to discuss a unique event called 'The Rising,' scheduled for August 27th-31st in Lockhart, Texas. The event, hosted on a farm, aims to explore the concepts of freedom, sovereignty related to food supply, independence from the 'sick care system,' and overall body optimization. Highlights include teaching core concepts, executing a real-time field harvest, and consuming locally sourced, organic meals. The event also promises a strong emphasis on community, integrated body practices, and mental wellness. Beyond individual health, the discussions emphasize becoming one’s own source of safety and love, pushing personal boundaries, and the importance of community support. Additionally, there will be powerful sessions on defensive and offensive body movements to achieve a state of weaponization, aimed at enhancing resilience both physically and mentally. Practical takeaways from the event are highlighted, ensuring participants leave with a comprehensive understanding of maintaining health and sovereignty. THE RISING Learn more about the rising here   Connect with Conor here: Instagram ISO MOVEMENT   Our Sponsors: Let’s level up your nicotine routine with Lucy. Go to Lucy.co/KKP and use promo code (KKP) to get 20% off your first order. Lucy offers FREE SHIPPING and has a 30-day refund policy if you change your mind. If there’s ONE MINERAL you should be worried about not getting enough of... it’s MAGNESIUM. Head to http://www.bioptimizers.com/kingsbu now and use code KINGSBU10 to claim your 10% discount. Get back to nature. Go to EarthRunners.com and use the code KKP at checkout for 10% off. Beam Kids is now available online at shopbeam.com/KKP. Because you’re a listener to my show, you can take advantage of their limited time pricing of up to 35% off PLUS 2 free gifts using code KKP. Connect with Kyle: I'm back on Instagram, come say hey @kylekingsbu Twitter: @kingsbu Fit For Service Academy App: Fit For Service App Our Farm Initiative: @gardenersofeden.earth Odysee: odysee.com/@KyleKingsburypod Youtube: Kyle Kingbury Podcast Kyle's Website: www.kingsbu.com - Gardeners of Eden site If you enjoyed this podcast, please subscribe & leave a 5-star review with your thoughts!

Welcome back to the podcast everybody. Today we have the return of Connor Milstein and today's podcast is a very special one because we're talking about the very first event that we are putting together the final week of August 27th through the 31st. It'll be here at the farm in Lockhart, Texas. We're going to do a whole lot. And we really break down what that, whether you can make it to the event or not, doesn't matter. There's plenty to draw off of in this episode because we want to teach some of

the key and core concepts behind why we put this event together. What does freedom actually mean in the body? What does it mean to be sovereign as it comes to our food supply and our independence from the sick care system? All of that stuff is covered in this podcast. It's a short one direct to the point. We want people to have takeaways from it, whether you can make it to the event or not. And obviously we want to promote the event. We want people to come.

This is the very best way to get to work with Connor and myself. We'll be teaching back and forth on various aspects of integrating the body, increasing our relationship with our food and knowing where our food comes from. We're going to do a harvest here, a field harvest here on the land. So if you've ever participated in that, it is a special experience. For those of you who listened to the podcast I just did with Daniel first Griffiths, where we talk about the sacred harvest, it is a moving event to be a part of an experience like that.

And everyone's going to have a hands on experience if they want. So everyone's encouraged to come and help feel just that animal. We're going to have a phenomenal cook on staff for the week. That'll be preparing all of our meals. Everything's going to be organic and locally sourced. All of the eggs and meat are going to come from this farm in particular, whether that is regenerative lamb, black buck, red stag, red deer. And we'll know exactly what we're eating as we're eating it,

when that was harvested, what type of animal it was and how it was prepared So it's gonna be a really fantastic experience to be able to grease the groove and you know Of course, we're gonna talk about all of it here on this podcast. So I need not waste any more time on the intro Share this far and wide that really helps the podcast and support our sponsors without further ado my brother Connor Milstein Connor Milstein. Connor Milstein, super trainer extraordinaire. It's funny, I finally gave in and put Siri on my phone. I know a lot of people in the freedom community are like, oh my God, you let AI on your phone.

It's like, hey, they can already hear us, every fucking word of it. So at least let me lean into some of the benefits of this new tech, but it's funny, cause it'll read to me while I've got headphones on, if I'm out watering or something like that, listening to one of my wife's smut books and it'll say Connor Milstein super trainer has sent you a text read it for him.

You're not like the Connor Milstein super trainer. Let's go. Yes. Read it. Yeah. Text from Connor. Text from Connor usually mean good things. Always good things. I'm stoked to have you back on. The two big podcasts that we did together, we'll link to those in the show notes. If people really want to get to know who you are and to see your beautiful progression of how you've come into a space of true mastery when it comes to the body and the intersection, not just the body, but the body mind inner space, our emotional centers, how all of that is stored within the body and how to how to really heal from that. But but beyond

healing how to optimize right, like whether you're a housewife, or in a stay at home mom, or a performer pro athlete with a broken body, or somebody who never was anything, but you work 50 hours a week and don't give yourself time to move. Don't have time to go to a gym. Don't want to go to a gym, but you're starting to feel, you know, what it, what it feels like to be 40 and not take care of yourself 50 and not take care of yourself, even 30 and not take care of yourself.

I was 20. I was 20 brother. I was 20 by the time I started breaking down. Damn. Yeah. I mean, and it's I really, we got introduced to the perfect time because I'm 43 now. And I think we've been training for nine months together. We just finished. We just finished your second. I was actually shocked to see this. We just finished your second training block. We're two quarters in your show. Snap. Unbelievable returns.

Fuck fly like an eagle. Unbelievable. You see, let's go. We got it is it feels like longer than it is because of the rapid changes taking place. But, you know, I got to learn from some of the best weight training coaches in the world. My technique isn't flawless. I'm not a power lifter, you know, or an Olympic level lifter, but I don't make mistakes when I deadlift. I don't make mistakes during back squat. I don't make mistakes and I don't bite off more than I can chew.

And yet doing those exercises for strength and conditioning to burn fat, to build muscle, to be strong in jujitsu, to be strong in life. I always carried a certain degree of pain with me spinal issues, whatever is knee issues, neck issues, that never really worked. They never really worked themselves out. They never healed from good technique in the gym. Most people don't have good technique in the gym to begin with. They didn't get to train with coach Joe Ken, big house at ASU who won strength coach of the year at ASU NCAA and strength coach of the year for the Carolina Panthers, only strength coach in the world to do both.

Right. They didn't get to train with Jesse Burdick and Mark Bell. And yet even those people still need help. Right. And then if they're starting from that place where it's like, oh, I can afford $20 a month for the guy or whatever now or for 24 hour fitness guy, that's what you're gonna get back from that. Don't wonder why you keep getting hurt, right? And so we really have a larger discussion today about this event that we're gonna put on.

We're gonna give key takeaways from it. So if you can't make it to the event, no worries. There's still a reason to listen to this, to learn from it and to understand what we're trying, how our minds are melding together to create something that is beyond fitness, beyond movement, beyond the body itself, right? Like how we become the true architects

of our existence and our reality. And I think that's super important. And the body is the starting place for that right like you can't I've always told people It's really hard to have a fully optimal brain That's just firing on all eight cylinders when your body's in pain if you haven't slept well You know when you're injured in and if you're starving, you know, or if you've eaten the wrong food and your gut feels heavy You know, there's all these things are deeply interconnected. There's no separation from mind and body

when it comes to this stuff. And so sorting out best practices that pertain to the body end up sorting out a lot of other things that we have as goals. Like I wanna have more energy. I'm on my brain to fire. I wanna recover better. I don't wanna be hurt.

I don't wanna hurt while I move. I don't wanna, you know, tell my kids like, Hey, you can't jump on daddy, because I'm in pain, you know, which is which is what I was when my son was three, you know, I fucking hated being that guy when I was when my son was three. So big thank you to you for the work that you've done for the person you become. Check those first two podcasts out if you want more. From here we want to talk about this, this our little baby we're creating and you're, you know, you're

about to be a new dad. You've got a little girl in the way. Big congrats to you and Anya. That's so incredible. Right around the time of the event. It's so cool. It's so cool. Poor timing on our end, but, but it is, it is really rad. rad it is really rad so we're putting together this this baby you know this baby of ours uh and it's called the rising i love this because you know we love fantasy uh we love red rising and when you read that book series you realize just how gangster these guys are you know where you're like fuck yeah i've got I've got red blood. I'm a fucking red. I'm a grinder. And I want give me the gold upgrades, like give me that optimization to a point where like I become something else

entirely. You know, like I think that resonates for a lot of people. And not in a transhumanist way, just in like a what is the you know, what can I become? What is the peak of my self? What is the capacity? You know, am I am I willing to run this lifetime this opportunity we have for all it's worth? Right? And that's that's a huge, huge reason that we do what we do. And it only makes sense to turn right around and share that.

Fuck yeah, absolutely, brother. Well, we've got some kind of big ticket items that can kind of get lost in the weeds, you know, if you're reading a webpage and you're like, oh, they're going to talk freedom. You're like, well, what does that actually mean? So I'd love for you to break down. How does freedom pertain to what we're going to be teaching at our event? And why is it important? You know, there's been a huge freedom movement since 2020 and COVID and I've got that beautiful COVID 1984 t-shirt, which is a phenomenal reference point.

They've now taken all of Orwell's books out of schools. They're no longer required reading. They're actually out of the libraries where you cannot read them at school. And that's kind of hilarious. And it's in and of itself. But, you know, the freedom movement that has gone along, you know, since COVID and really pushed towards personal sovereignty, our ability to control our own health destiny, my body,

my choice, all of these movements are really in the same line of thinking. But the way we think of freedom is a bit different. And I'd love for you to break that down. Because the body truly is a prison or it's your keys to freedom, right? You can either fly like an eagle, or you're stuck like a worm on the ground, uh, in utilization of, of other things, prosthetics needs, you know, and, and nothing, nothing against people who have a serious physical disability, but we can always optimize to be better, to have more freedom.

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this conversation right now, you are a human being on planet earth. Right? So that's something we can all agree on no matter what walk of life you come from. So if you're able to hear this, you are a human on planet Earth, then you are effectively here for a couple very primal reasons. All right, your biology answers to a few things that would be getting towards food,

towards reproduction and away from danger. All right, those are the three things that we're all inherently trying to do. So our ability to do so plays a huge role in our underlying feelings, our emotional state, our mental state, our physical state, all of them. So we end up living in this modern era where what we're trying to do ends up being

make a lot of money, become stable, accomplish things that are surface level, check in the box all the way down the line. And then we wonder why we feel like shit. We have poor thinking patterns. We have big emotional loops that we go through and things feel harder than they should. And then that's all well and good. And you can's all well and good and you can skate by with that. You can put little patches on that, but at a certain point,

you're gonna be met with a challenge. You're gonna be met with the challenge. And at that point, your freedom becomes valuable because you end up having to give more and more and more of yourself to patch these little issues together that are all related to your primal needs in your lifetime on this planet. So when we're trying to adhere to this modern human value system, we are giving up parts of our biology in order to do so. And as soon as we start giving that up,

whether you admit it or not, it doesn't feel good. There's nothing good feeling about it. And it goes to show that in the end of it, what we really need in order to feel our best, look our best, be complete, be joyous, stay out of poor emotional mental cycles, stay out of poor injury loops is freedom. And that freedom is a broad stroke term to define all of those, all of those different

aspects. So in terms of the body, we end up seeing that lack of freedom show up in different ways. It could be digestive issues, it could be disease and sickness, it could be inflammation of your tissues, right, fasciitis, any itis that you could think of, bursitis, arthritis, all the itises, all the osises, any pattern-based issues, things that pop up as a result of you just being you, you going through your basic day-to-day principles, your basic day to day actions.

Right? These are all things that are signs indicating that your body is lacking the freedom to be in a state of healing. When a body is given freedom, it heals itself. Right? When Kyle's food farm is given freedom or is able to operate as it should, or as it would in nature, it grows is and is abundant. It's not going to it's going to become resilient to disease resilient to injury

resilient to adversity. Alright, so this resilience is this is a common theme, a common association with freedom. So you become resilient to injuries, you become resilient to those ides and your body ends up living in a state of healing. So you're going through, say it's a hard workout even, you're going through that hard workout and instead of being met with increased inflammation, increased tightness, inflexibility, immobility, you name it, you end up walking away with more of those things, more flexibility, more mobility, more ability to heal. So you're not stepping into that inflamed state.

And if we can't pull ourselves into the free state, then everything we're doing is in compensation. Every single thing, from picking your nose, to making your breakfast, to doing your workouts, to taking a walk, to having a conversation with a partner, with a friend, with a coworker. Everything you create is coming from that, that we'll say state of inflammation,

that state of compensation. And you know that deep down, and that is going to chew at you. Whether you're willing and able to admit it right now or not, it's an eventuality. So freedom is something that we have to obtain that's going to impact every area of our lives. We have to be able to be free in our biology at the least to be able to bring ourselves into any arena and be complete. Be able to express ourselves fully. Be able to bring ourselves into any arena and be complete, be able to express ourselves fully,

be able to enjoy ourselves fully, communicate our needs fully. And you end up becoming a magnet for what it is that you want. Yeah, I love that. That's something that kind of gets lost in the manifestation game. I'm a huge fan of Joe Dispenza,

talk about his work often, teach his work as well. I'm a huge fan of Joe Dispenza. Talk about his work often. Teach his work as well. Turned a lot of people onto him that now go to his events and take his advanced training. But one of the things I love is, is God, is it manifestation? I'm trying to think of it. I made a post a while back on Instagram. This is going to kill me if I can't find it. Bear with me for a minute. Let's see here. It is, it was from my boy. The most important point in the law of attraction are the last six letters. Action. That's it, right? And I think you're speaking to something that really, it transfer, for those that know,

they understand it because like, you know, as my father would always say, the harder you work, the easier it is. The harder you work, the easier life becomes. The resilience to stress isn't just something that happens to my physiology, it's something that happens to my neurology, something happens to my emotional body, all levels of existence, all planes of existence change as I become more adaptable and as I become more integrated. as I become more adaptable and as I become more integrated. Right? And so that matters when I have a potentially hot topic with my wife who hasn't had enough sleep

or didn't get to work out that day. It matters when my kids had a shitty day, either in homeschool or at wrestling practice or in a tournament or whatever. And I can be the dad that I wanna be, and the father that I wanna be, and the husband I wanna be when I'm in my center, but that requires me working through that sticky shit on my own.

It requires me saying yes to the challenge and showing up each day in ways that improve my resiliency and improve my management of stress on all levels. And I think this is the freedom that you're speaking about. That's exactly correct. That is exactly correct. That's really everything that Kyle just hit on is more so what I'm after in the world. It just became the easiest to communicate and create actionable, tangible change through the lens of the physical body. And that is something that people are missing out, right? Cause a lot of the people listening, they would have heard and understood, okay, I need to have good form in the gym, right?

Is that what you're telling me? And, uh, it's not really just as simple as that. The full conversation is, yeah, you could have good form, but if the motor that you're running is still pushing you further into old patterning, you're going to have good form, but if the motor that you're running is still pushing you further into old patterning, you're going to have good form with old patterning. That's exactly what you're going to end up with and it's going to turn the same exact result. And that might show up in the gym, might show up somewhere else in a fight with your partner, in lashing out at your kids. free, you know, lashing out at your kids. It's going to show up. It's just a matter of where. So we have to change not just the simple understanding of doing it right or

doing it wrong and getting into the understanding that there's infinite ways to do it right or wrong, but only one way to be optimal. And that is something that is crucial, a mindset shift that has to be changed. And while people understand what Kyle was hitting on, people understand the why these days. People understand the what these days, where the big misses and the opportunity in this event is the how, is what are the actual things that I have to do.

Kyle has taken a trillion reps of things that I've taught him, but only one has ever felt like the one that I have taught him. Right, and that is what's really lacking from the world right now, which is a damn shame because it's right here. It can be laid out right in front of you. Yeah, and then I think that we're going to dive

into specifics as well on like what this event actually looks like on a daily, what's going to be, what's expected to be gained from it through getting the reps in, right? And then there's, and then, you know, I've got a couple of stories that I'll tell on that, which really makes sense. Sovereignty is another big piece of this, you know,

that gets tossed around, you know, since 2020. And what does it actually mean to be sovereign? And it's funny, because you can see kind of these, there was a funny article from Time Magazine, I think it came out last year, right as we were moving into the land here about a year ago. And they talked about, off-grid family ends up dying and snowed in in somewhere in Northern Colorado or Wyoming, right?

So like, don't do this, here's a horror story. And so it's like, some guy tries to do Captain Fantastic for his wife and kids, doesn't have power, doesn't have anything to keep them warm in the winter, doesn't get enough wood, can't get out, and they all die, horror story. That's not exactly sovereignty. And the truth is, as I mentioned

before, we are interconnected with all things, right? All my relations when they say ah, home attack, we are Yassin from the Lakota that saying all my relations is is all my relatives, it's everything I'm related to. When you really understand what that is, you're related to fucking everything you're related to the wind, the trees, the food, the soil, the bees, all of humanity, you're related to the dogs, you're related to fucking everything you're related to the wind, the trees, the food, the soil, the bees, all of humanity, you're related to the dogs, you're related to the dog shit, you are related to all parts of the

whole. And how we show up to that actually matters. So when it comes to sovereignty, there are action items there, how do I become more sovereign while still remaining interconnected to the whole? Well, no, my farmers know where my food's coming from. Right. Paul check just did a great video where he was talking about quarter truths and half truths. And he showed this guy talk about, you know, the bastardization of organic food, and how all these inorganic giant companies own the organic companies. So if you follow, you know, any of these organic, big organic companies,

you go back and it's Coca-Cola or Nestle or Mars M&M and it's these nasty candy sugar companies that own all the shit. That's a quarter truth, right? It's true that a lot of these companies that are organic are owned by inorganic companies and companies that are fucking up the planet. But that doesn't mean that organic food isn't better than inorganic. And to that point on organic food, if they are allowed to spray a certain amount of things and still call it organic, there's an opportunity there to know where your food comes from, to go handpick it in an apple orchard, to have a relationship with the people that are growing your food.

There's also an opportunity to grow some of your own. Most people listening to this don't have farms and never will farm, I get that. But I've lived in a 10th of an acre backyard, I've lived in a quarter acre backyard and I grew food when I was doing that. I grew food in my mom's backyard. We planted fruit trees, I had a market garden

and that was awesome because it connected me back to nature. It connected me back to my food. We're gonna have a harvest here. One of the most important ceremonies I've ever done is a field harvest or a hunt. And when you hunt in a sacred way in a good way and you have respect and reverence for what's going to be taken that changes the entire dynamic of your relationship to what's going into your body. You not only participate in the death of that

animal, but you you ask for permission in that. The conversation I just had with Daniel Griffith is really about, you know, authority. And like, and one's ability to communicate in that way is pretty, it's a big deal, right? And it's far removed from how we really think about putting something in our mouths, but we're gonna get putting something in our mouths,

but we're gonna get to participate in that. We're gonna get to participate in field dressing an animal. And having a chef here all week long for lunch and dinner, we're gonna get to eat that animal that we harvest together, right? That had never had a shot in its life, that had been 100% free range its whole life, that had only lived on grass its whole life

and had been taken care of. That was born in this land and will die on this land. And it remains and the rest of it will go back to the land and we'll see how fast that gets recycled back to the land. It takes about four hours for vultures and caracaras to pick something clean, spotless clean here in Texas. So this is a way we reconnect to our food. It's one of the many ways we become more sovereign and it's one of the importances of, you know, this decentralization piece isn't just about financial, right?

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to position that because you want to retain as much adaptability, as many choices, as many routes as possible so that when the time comes, or when that challenge comes that I had spoken about earlier, you are able to make a decision. You're not stuck in doing things one way. You're never going to become prisoner to the challenge due to the environment that you've put yourself in, the amount of opportunities that you've left open for yourself. You've got to learn how to make that decentralized. That's where self sovereignty comes back in. That is what being self sovereign is. You're able to make choices. You're free to make choices. And once you give that up, things

start happening to you instead of for you. And you find yourself in a deep hole before you realize, oh, I should probably start getting educated. All right. Kyle had said about the ability to grow your own food. There's a reason that there's a movement towards home setting. There's a movement towards growing your own food, because eventually everyone comes to the same realization is that ultimately everything that we buy, everything that we see in a store is for profit, right? And there is no way, no way to make the healthiest thing

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Yeah, that's a huge one. Community, community is something that I've worked on for six years at Fit for Service. I'm still a part of, but obviously, you've built a really cool community via your circle. It's on iso-movement.com. We'll link to that in the show notes if people are interested in working with you right now ahead of schedule. That'd be awesome. Um, we're going to invite everybody that's a part of your community to our event as well. And then I'll be launching my community this summer. So I'm super excited for that. I'm looking like June, but could be July. I just want to say somewhere in the summer it's going to release and I want to build off of the community that I helped build to fit for service and really bring that home into

what it means to be healthy and happy. Like how does how do we accomplish these things through through a lot of the the lineage of how I've thought about life and work through this stuff. But community is a big one. We want to be around like minded people. Right. And oftentimes we find ourselves in communities that are still kind of stuck in the old. Right. Like they might be a little bit more in the Matrix. If you consider the Matrix in the real world, a sliding scale, all of us somewhat in the Matrix, you know, very few being completely out, I would say, unless you're like Sri or Abindu or somebody like that, I'd say we all kind of have one foot in this world. And then, you know, it's easier to see, right? We can see the spec in our brother's eye, but not the log larger than ours, but we can see like, hey, there's some things

that maybe I don't wanna participate in anymore. Maybe I don't wanna drink alcohol on the weekends with my buddies, and maybe I don't wanna play fantasy football, but whatever the case is, that's not poopooing on those activities, it's just saying there's a certain growth trajectory for some of us, and we wanna find others that are doing that.

Who else is on that growth trajectory? Who else is looking for different ways to have an altered state of consciousness? Who's looking for different ways to know their self? Who's looking for different maps and tools to experience life in a different way, where you feel better, where it's sustainable, it's self-regenerating?

And I think that's really the community that we're looking to build together, not only through our event, but through our cooperation in our co-op communities, online as well as in person. And I think that's such an important one for people to be able to meet other people that are on the same fucking wavelength you are bounce ideas back and forth, you know, start a signal group where you guys can communicate constantly. I have one of these signal groups I absolutely love is all on practical preparation

Right and and a lot of awesome people are in there There's former Green Berets and Marine recon snipers and there's guys who are just into homesteading and everybody kind of brings their wealth of knowledge to that Community and you know some of the health aspects have obviously been a big thing in there that I've contributed to and Tucker Maxx and others have contributed to. And it's just a wonderful place to learn and grow. Right. And this is the kind of shit that we start via an event like this. People come here, they meet people that they resonate with, and they start bouncing ideas

back and forth. Hey, let's keep that going after this five day. And that continues and grows and grows and grows. Oh, yeah, I think I think Kyle's even being is even being too soft on the topic I think that to dig in to dig the knife in a little further there there comes a point in your trajectory where you need people around you that are going to help promote the the better decision which is going to be the harder decision. Right. If, if you're getting sucked into activities that you know, aren't contributing to your freedom, your growth, your self sovereignty, eventually

the, the mass, the sheer weight of that decision is going to take over the ones that are harder, right. It's so much easier to fall into a normal, quote unquote normal life pathway, because that's where the masses are. And that's where most of the majority of time is spent. That's where the majority of attention goes. That's where the majority of day to day conversation goes. So it's hard to be different.

It's hard to be wanting a little bit more than your constituents. And eventually it actually is enough, it's hard enough, it weighs heavy enough that the levy breaks. And I see more people quit in their journeys of freedom and self sovereignty, self love, because it's not cool, right? It's not in the masses than really anything,

because it's very hard what Kyle's asking you to do. He put it very nicely for you guys, to step away from that normal mass-driven community and step into something new. And I think that's really a big value that Kyle and I are able to provide is we've been doing it for long enough that it's not such a difficult

step for us to be in that different space and to allow the Community to be driven towards the right value system or toward not right value system But towards an agreeable value system without it feeling like you're having to fight against the world. I think that's a huge point in being in this event and being in this space and being with these people. You gain perspective so quickly, right? You see, it's like the fog in your glasses gets cleared and all of a sudden you can see so much more for yourself than you could previously just because other people

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for private lessons. Let me just say that right there. So like, people ask and it's like, it's a lot and that's okay. And you know, inquire if you have a lot and you're willing to spend a lot and I do that and you do that. And that's great. But a big goal of both of ours is to bring what we know to the masses, right. And, and that's a part of the digital online offerings that we're doing via communities that is really going to be our touch point to the most amount of people. And then people that can afford the five day drop ins will get an accelerated learning

curve, right. And part of that can afford the five day drop-ins will get an accelerated learning curve, right? And part of that accelerated learning curve, I know through personal experience As I mentioned earlier at the beginning of the podcast one of my favorite books on strength training is called easy strength by Pavel Tatsunlin And Dan John the reason I love that book so much is because there's many one-liners in there that don't that aren't just for strength and conditioning they're about life in general, right? And, and it makes sense to me, as you see, as it has this ripple effect that kind of expands consciousness outside of just movement. And so I really appreciate that book for those reasons. But one of the concepts that Pavel brings forward is this idea of greasing the groove, right? Every time we were we practice strength, or we practice movement, we're greasing that motor neuron pathway

from the mind to the body and back. And as we do that, you go from a single lane dirt road into an eight lane super freeway, right? The more connection that place gets, the more time under tension we give to that, the better that connection place gets. And you're practicing primal movement patterns, but doing it in a way

that integrates the entire system right so through that integration we grease the groove and what happens there is shit becomes very easy to do in a very fast point like in a very rapid especially for being other athletes again it happens very rapidly the ability to grease the groove but this does happen for everybody. And I know this, not just from my own personal experience with you, but because of different events that I've done. I did an on it kettlebell cert years ago

where we did a very light, like maybe a 12 pound kettlebell. They said, pick the lightest one. I grabbed something like no go lighter. And we used that damn kettlebell for swings, clean and press and snatch. I was trash for two weeks, but I've never snatched. That changed the way I kettlebell snatch permanently. All the work I got in those 48 hours

changed the way I worked with the kettlebell permanently for the better. When I went to Thailand with my dad, right when I got in the UFC after the Ultimate Fighter, he's like, hey, I'll take you to Rio for jiu-jitsu or I'll take you to Thailand for Muay Thai. What do you wanna do? And I didn't give a shit about jiu-jitsu at that point. I love it now, but I was like, oh, we're going to Rio for jujitsu or I'll take you to Thailand for Muay Thai. What do you want to do? And I didn't give a shit about jujitsu at that point.

I love it now, but I was like, Oh, we're going to Thailand for sure. 17 days in Thailand doing twice a day, private lessons, a little bit of sparring, a little bit of yoga, a little bit of jets, but twice a day, private men holding. When I left there, that changed the way I kick the way I need the way I punch for the rest of my life. Right. I still have that to fall back on. And those are really important skills.

We'll talk about why weaponization is important in a minute, but just on the topic of greasing the groove, when you fully immerse yourself in a multi-day in a row practice where more than once or twice a day, you're actually getting into these things, greasing the groove, repatterning the body, that stays for potentially

forever if you stick with it. Right? You can change the way your brain and body connect to each other in an advanced rate when you give yourself to a practice almost exclusively for a short duration, but high volume. Right? And that's what we're going to do together. We're going to grease the groove. People are going to have the opportunity to move their body in various ways, two or three times a day, every day for five days. And in between while we're resting, I'm going to be feeding you from a fucking fire hose on health and wellness. We're going to be going back and forth, trading on who's number one and who's secondary. But all the teaching will be giving people the weapons for their mind, the weapons for their habits, the weapons for their ability to live the best life.

And, um, but this patterning, this greasing of the groove, I think is potentially one of the most important things, because now when somebody follows you on your community and you're giving people cues, they've lived it. They've lived the experience of knowing exactly what it is. They've had you walk across to them or me walk across to them and say, this is what we want you to do. Here's where you tighten the belly. Here's where here's where your legs go. This is how far I want you to rotate. These are where your fingers point to push up. Right. And every one of those little things makes a difference in how they move in life in all the primal movement patterns and all the freedom that we're speaking of. And so I think that's a critical piece to what this is about. You got anything to add on that?

I know I covered quite a bit on the group piece, but it's such an important piece. You absolutely nailed that. And you're totally correct. I just had a little weekend workshop here in Florida a couple of weeks ago, and we're talking people that have never considered themselves athletes, never considered themselves a runner. They hate running. And now because they've been able to go through the full experience of what it is to get their bodies prepared and then actually step into that new arena with some manual adjustments, some hands on adjustment, and just being in the presence of someone that's supportive and confident and knows what they're doing. Now all of a sudden you have a permanent connection in their brain. Their identity has shifted from, I can't do this, I would never do this, this hurts,

to, oh, I absolutely can do this, I just did do this, now I can continue it. And that is such a valuable piece of being able to come in person, get those grooves greased up daily and see how far you can push it and you end up getting a glimmer of what the future can be. And that glimmer is enough, that foot in the door is enough to make significant change in your life. Yes, the light at the end of the tunnel. Well, food, you know, I'm very excited. The guy we're bringing in for food, Gilbert, catering, he was in the service with my brother, Jimmy,

who works here at the farm, one of my dear friends. And we've been able to experience this catering many times. He's phenomenal. Like I said, he does Asian fusion, Mexican fusion. He's gonna be using all of our meat and eggs from the land here. So it's only regenerative lamb. It's only wild regenerative red stag,

wild regenerative black buck, all of our free range eggs, the most organic, outdoor, awesome eggs you'll ever find, the oranges, deepest, beautiful yolks you've ever seen. And these are the things that we're gonna be nourishing ourselves with on a daily basis. And my buddy Jimmy's got his own coffee company, Three Rivers Coffee.

They're going to be here satisfying our caffeine fix first thing in the morning and midday. So, I mean, from breakfast through dinner, we're taking care of everyone stays here on site. So, and, you know, we're getting this time together where we're getting our reps in, we're learning together. and we're also disconnecting from the outside world while we're here. Like we're going into a ceremony together, a ceremony of the body and the mind and the spirit that where we're gonna have hard work to do,

but when we come out of this, we're gonna be different. And the better we can disconnect from all the work back home, all the emails, the calls and all the thing that we ought to is the responsibilities, the better we can absorb everything that's being taught while we're here. And so I'm really excited for that too, is a very small group of 20 people max, everyone's got we got a big house for everyone to stay in on site, and a yurt next to it, to make sure we can

fit everybody. And I think it's going to be, you know, just a wild opportunity for people to have rapid change in response in their life. Yeah, I mean, selfishly, Kyle, I'm very excited for the food menu. I live this one firsthand, I went to visit Kyle for a week. What they eat is you can't draw it up any better. Kyle and I have a very similar diet on the day to day. But once you get into that routine, you know, I've been eating that same diet for a decade, it becomes about tweaking the actual components of it. And this what Kyle has gone on the farm, guys, is a level of cleanliness that that you just can't find, right? You're not going to find things that are that fresh, that well raised, that organic, and that regenerative period. It's, I'm very, very excited about the food menu.

As far as the overall experience, and I think what Kyle wants to harp on with the disconnection wants to harp on with the disconnection is that you're, I don't wanna use the word disconnected as much as you are connected with values that matter to you the deepest, at the deepest levels. And when you can connect with those values at a deep level, it provides a fire in your belly unlike anything I've ever seen. You become more prepared to take on,

yes, you might have to go leave and go back to work. So that's why I don't want you to feel disconnected. I want you to understand that you will be so much more stable and firm and confident stepping into the arena of your job without it eating at your soul. And when you can do that, when you can open up that bucket for stress, make it bigger and bigger and

bigger, it's not going to overflow so easily. Work doesn't feel so daunting. Your workout doesn't feel so daunting. Getting to the store to get yourself the right foods doesn't feel so daunting because you've felt what it is to be fully aligned with your value system and living day by day by day, committed to that. And that's how you make large changes in your life fast. All right guys, quick break to tell you about earthrunners.com use code KKP at checkout for 10% off.

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Sole and doing really good stuff with their products. I love these guys. Go to earthrunners.com and use code KKP at checkout for 10% off. Well, let's finish here, you know, with, you know, a bit of how you teach. And I was talking earlier to a couple friends about this. You know, the infinite spiral staircase from Ken Wilber and others. I love that as a framework for consciousness But I also love that, you know And I was first taught this in ayahuasca that you know because we loop around on a spiral We get to revisit shit again and again, but no man ever crosses the same river twice, right? More no man or woman, right?

You don't cross the same river twice because no man or woman is ever the same and no river is ever the same And so as we circle back around this loop, we get to revisit other things that we may have thought we had already worked on and we're a different person when we do, right? And so from a psycho spiritual point of view, that makes a lot of sense to me. You're oddly one of the first people I've ever trained with that does the same thing with the body, right? Like, hey, we're going to start as a seed foundational as we grow our roots and we grow up tall, we're going to get in the rotation. And then as we extend out and we get

fruit and flowers and everything leafs out and gets real tiny, like LVL of the lungs, that's our, that's our final place outward weaponization. And then we go right back down the spiral. We go back, we go back into that seed and then we spiral out again and then we spiral down again. And all of this in and out expansion allows us to revisit positions as a different athlete, as a different person with different capabilities that continues to layer upon itself in a way that is, uh, hugely beneficial, but also prevents injury. It prevents overtraining. It prevents getting burning out by continuing to push at one end of the spectrum.

Right. It also gives us many tools. I've been hurt from doing hill repeats before I was authorized to do them. Right. And again, we still had a ton of shit we could do a ton of shit we could do to train around that and what happened when my calf healed, I was fucking better everywhere else, my calf was fine and I could run again just fine, right? I could run better than before because I was training around those injuries.

And so the way you map this, I think is super important. Something people might be getting hung up on, especially if they're in a spiritual community would be the term weaponization. So we talk foundation, rotation, weaponization, Explain that and then we can we can we can what is weaponization? Why is it important? Why do you teach it? Absolutely and I yeah I very much I'm not a over aggressive violent person in nature. I very much choose that word on purpose. By the time

we get to weaponization that third third and final layer, right? Your soil is set, your roots are firm, your trunk is firm, your branches are built, the leaves are sprouting, and then you fruit, and you come back to the earth to then start the process all over again, right? So plants do this in order to move and survive, to sustain themselves. We do this in order to move and survive, to sustain themselves.

We do this as well. Now, the ability, why we use weaponization, that's a word that I use to pay some homage to David Weck, to the homie. It's really what it's about is becoming your own best tool for survival, your own source of safety, your own source of love. And why is that important to do it all?

Because if we really strip things down to their bare bones, all right, we come into this world with one thing and we leave this world with one thing. And that's the love that we've cultivated for ourselves. All right, at the beginning, it's just us, at the end, it's just us. And that's really what life to me is about, the cultivation of that one thing

that we're gonna have in the beginning and the end. So we start now comparing weaponization to this word love and those seem kind of like opposites of one another. When in reality, if we can't become our own self-sustaining source of survival, our own source of love, we are relying on others for the most valuable things that we have in this lifetime. And if we are then trying to rely on people, we always have this little piece of us that's not complete, not touched, not visited.

And that little piece can either go to eat you up or you live a life having never felt everything fully, having never existed fully. And that is a one way ticket to disease, emotional issues, mental issues, all sorts of physical imbalances. So we need to learn to weaponize the body. I'm not saying you need to learn, you need to go be a professional fighter.

I'm not saying that at all. You need to know how to be your own source of safety, love and survival. That we do need to be if we want to be a complete, fully expressed human being on this planet in this lifetime. So that's why we use the word weaponization. And that's why we bring somebody like Kyle in, who has a literal professional fighting background because he's someone when you meet him, he's one of the sweetest, kindest, gentlest people that you're gonna meet. And it's so interesting when you meet these absolute warriors,

if anyone's ever had the pleasure of meeting fighters, they're monsters. These guys are animals, craziest people I've ever met in my life by far. And they always are so sweet. They're always so kind. They always have your, you know, your ego fighters, the guys that are in there to try and kill people and make a name for themselves, but no, no pro gym lets those people in the gym.

They're not even allowed in. They're more problematic than they are helpful. So I think it's really important that we touch on weaponization when we're all together and we at least establish a baseline ability to survive, which is ultimately just being able to run away, being able to run period. So you can escape danger if, you know, if it comes down to it. And then once we learn to escape danger, we learn to run. Now we can learn to put our body in positions

that are defensible, that are able to adapt and basically dodge, get yourself out of trouble. And then finally, we learn some of the actual offense where we have to be at least able to cause some damage enough to get away. Yeah, absolutely brother. There's a phenomenal book I had. Um, uh, I think it was a year ago, Tim Larkin on the podcast, who I had heard

of for years, probably since 2017, a phenomenal guy, you know, he had done a lot of work with the Navy SEALs over the course of his life. He wrote the book when violence is the answer. And I think it's a must read. I think it's a must read for men and women alike. I think it's super important. And it really shows, you know, there is a level, there's a level of a potential for violence in the world

that's no longer social violence, right? Like on a schoolyard, a bully picks on a kid. Most bullies have never been in a fight before, right? They wanna punk the kid and humiliate them socially. That gives them some more social status. And that's it. You'll notice this when you see kids drawing back and forth. If it's a pushing contest with no punches swung. If a guy throws a punch right as the teacher comes in to break it up. That's a form of social violence. But there is this amoral violence that exists in the world where of social violence, but there is this amoral violence that exists in the world where

so nobody says anything. They're not looking for anyone's attention, right? They're not trying to gain social status in their act of violence. They're operating on a different frequency, and these people exist. The cops aren't going to be able to get there in time for you. They're just not. And this isn't to strike fear in anybody. to say if we're being a hundred percent honest with our felt ourselves we are the only line of defense that matters and if we take that upon ourselves not out of fear but out of love that grants us new degrees of freedom that grants us new degrees of sovereignty new degrees of comfort in the world right I don't operate in fear because I've checked the boxes of the things that I need that I find necessary to actually be able to protect myself. Same with my wife, who's 115 pounds. She's half my fucking 100 pounds less than me, right? A foot shorter. And so, you know,

when violence is the answer, amazing book by Tim Larkin. We're gonna, you don't have to read the book before you come, but it is, it is an awesome read. And it really speaks to this topic of weaponization in a beautiful way. But even just from an athletic standpoint, if you think about the best athletes in the world, they're in mixed martial arts, right? That's the hardest sport by far. And if we can weaponize the body in a way,

that translates to everything else we do, where now we're operating at our 100 percentile. Now when we go to do other stuff, it's a hell of a lot easier because we can weaponize, because we can go past that point. We have another gear to shift into, right? Most people haven't hit that fourth or fifth gear, but we're gonna take you there.

We're gonna take you into that fourth and fifth gear so that you have it, you feel it, you know it, and you can access that as you need it. Absolutely, absolutely. I think going back to the spiral growth chart, I just want to make sure we shed some light on that because that is the framework that we're teaching through guys. You will walk away understanding how to leave this linear repeated pattern loop that you find yourself in and understanding

what it is to grow your soil, build your roots, build your trunk, build your trees. When it's time to practice your weaponization, you'll understand that completely. We have four pillars to this event that all of which it's basically a dream camp for Kyle, myself, and any adults that want to be healthy. We have physical education, your body itself. We have combat sport education. We have community and sport. And we have food.

Yeah, we have community, sport, and relationships, and we have food. Four major aspects that Kyle and I are always looking to improve upon in our own lives and We're happy to be able to share the practices with you guys in all four areas Those are the ones we picked to be seeing that they were they would be the most immediately impactful for everybody Fuck yeah. Well brother. We went a little longer than we thought we would but that was awesome We'll link to your community in the show notes. We'll link to my website where people can come and just write, go to the contact page, write me and just say, hey, I'm interested in the community or I'm interested in the rising, the event that you have with Connor. If you don't remember it's the rising. That's fine. And then we should have the website up pretty soon. Is that correct? Websites ready to go, baby.

Let's go. So you can check the website in the show notes. That'll be at the top of the list. If you want to sign up there, go for it. If you want more information, we'll be building that out a little bit more as well with information and unpacking more. But really, you're not going to find more information

about it than you did right here on this podcast. So this is our deep dive on it up until we actually run the thing. And it's, you know, I've had many people ask me over the years, like, how do I do X, Y, and Z? How can I work with you? I'd love for you to be my coach, that kind of thing. Like come experience it, come live with us for five days.

Like that's the best way. That's the best way to jumpstart every goal you have physically, mentally, emotionally, and to really give yourself access to a better life. That's what we're really trying to do here. And from the teachings and learnings of all of our hard work to get there ourselves, brother. Absolutely, man. Thank you so much for sitting here with us guys. Excited to see you excited for the chance to get to teach you. And other than that, peace out. All right guys, if you made it this far and you're interested in coming out to our event,

we would love to see you. Check the show notes for The Rising. The Rising is the name of our event and in the show notes at the very top of the page, we're gonna have a link for you guys to click and sign up. I would love to see you there. Connor would love to see you there. Connor would love to see you there. And we would greatly appreciate having the five days with you in our small community,

adding to the experience itself. Each and every one of you that comes is going to be there on purpose. I know that from events that I've been at before. If you're feeling the call, if you're feeling the pull, this is the right event for you. And we're going to make this happen in a beautiful way that's going to change your life forever.