Kyle Kingsbury Podcast - #410 The Path to Unity: Exploring Spiritual Growth & Challenges w/ Paul Check

Episode Date: June 15, 2025

This episode welcomes back Paul Check, a mentor and friend, who delves into a deep and comprehensive discussion on the nature of love, growth, and spiritual development. The conversation covers Paul's recent life experience of being bitten by a rattlesnake, which he uses to illustrate resilience and calm. Paul introduces his concept of the 'Spirit Gym,' a master system teaching about consciousness, life's purpose, and holistic growth through weekly sanghas and practical guidance. The discussion breaks down the symbolic 'OM' circle, highlighting the phases of awakening (awe), dreaming (ooh), and resting (mm), and connects these to seasons, stages of love, and archetypes such as the child, warrior, king/queen, and wise man/woman. Paul also discusses different types of love from sex and violence love to conditional and unconditional love, using relatable examples and spiritual beliefs. Furthermore, the podcast emphasizes the importance of understanding and integrating one's thinking, feeling, sensation, and intuition. The conversation ends with reflections on the illusion of separation from God and encourages holistic approaches to life and spiritual growth.   Connect with Paul here: The Spirit Gym and use the code is KYLE15 for 15% off any membership! Instagram All Links - Paul Chek   Our Sponsors: Let’s level up your nicotine routine with Lucy. Go to Lucy.co/KKP and use promo code (KKP) to get 20% off your first order. Lucy offers FREE SHIPPING and has a 30-day refund policy if you change your mind. Looking for Shilajit? Head over to blacklotusshilajit.com and enter code KKP to receive 15% off your orderD EARN in gold and silver. Click link below for a great discount! monetary-metals.com/kkp Get back to nature. Go to EarthRunners.com and use the code KKP at checkout for 10% off. Visit https://shopbeam.com/KKP and use code KKP  to get our exclusive discount of up to 30% off.   Connect with Kyle: I'm back on Instagram, come say hey @kylekingsbu Twitter: @kingsbu Fit For Service Academy App: Fit For Service App Our Farm Initiative: @gardenersofeden.earth Odysee: odysee.com/@KyleKingsburypod Youtube: Kyle Kingbury Podcast Kyle's Website: www.kingsbu.com - Gardeners of Eden site If you enjoyed this podcast, please subscribe & leave a 5-star review with your thoughts!

Welcome to today's podcast. We have the return for the umpteenth time. I'm not even sure what number it is with Paul Cech, one of my mentors and one of my dearest, closest friends and allies in the world, my soul brother. This podcast was phenomenal. We had a very interesting trip. Of course, I came right after to San Diego,

right after being in Mexico with the bio culture guys. And first thing that happened was Paul got bit right on the big toe from a rattlesnake and you know well, I'll leave the details for the podcast, but it was eventful to say the very least then we got to Podcast together, you know after that and on each other's and of course drop into a very deep journey with great spirit together And and that was just as good as it gets so So lots of love for Paul, his family. They are incredible. The Rainbow House is incredible.

I always have a blast when I get to set a few days aside and go out and spend time with him. So thank you very much. I was also very excited when Paul told me what he wanted to talk about on my podcast because he hadn't done it before. And this is really a master key system. The podcast you're about to listen to right now

is a master key system of Spirit Gym. Now Spirit Gym, of course, is the name of his podcast. But it's also the name of his digital online community where Paul teaches pretty much everything he's ever learned, which is actually incredible and thorough as an understatement. But every week he teaches a sangha. And in those sanghas, he will break down one particular theme or a couple and really just help in very practical ways, us address what we're doing here. What is consciousness? Why are we here?

What are we doing while we're here? How do we elevate ourselves? How do we grow in spirit and in physicality and all that's in there? So I have loved being a member of Spirit Gym. Look at the link in the show notes if you want to sign up for it. I'll give you a code in there so you can sign up and I'll get a little credit that would be awesome. Just peep the show notes. And of course, share this far and wide with friends and family anybody you think

would be interested in it. It is deep and awesome. And of course support our sponsors they make this show possible. All right, without further ado, my brother Paul check. Welcome back on my podcast. Hey, I always love being back. Yes. Woo. We're here in your wonderful home and with your wonderful setup. You got all the fancy gear. I love it. Yeah. So cool. We had quite a wild day yesterday, didn't we?

We most certainly did. Why don't you talk about what happened? Oh my God. Well, you know, you and I are getting ready to do our family reunion medicine ceremony. And I have a beautiful arrangement of very powerful crystals, Vogel cut crystals, two Vogel cut crystals in the mix. And so I put an arrangement together several days in advance to prepare for our ceremony.

And I surround it by three and five gallon bottles of water because it amplifies the energy through the crystals into the medicine. So I was excited to show you the arrangement. And as we got in there, because the water charger is built like a cone, and I know how tall you are, so I thought, well, let me go around back so Kyle can get close from the front where he won't bang his head. And it was dark in there, you know, because there's no windows. It's made of stone. And as I was moving my way around, my right foot went down and I felt flesh under my toes.

And I, you know, my instant reaction is, oh God, rattlesnake. And right when I jerked my foot away, I saw the head of the rattlesnake coming back from my left foot because my feet were quite close together. And I'm like, oh shit. And I felt something sharp enter my toe on my left foot. And I thought, oh my God. And it was a baby, which are the most dangerous because as you know, they don't regulate their venom very well.

And so I said to you and Steve, I said, I got to go outside in the sun and take a look at my foot and see if I have puncture wounds. And sure enough, I got outside and my toe was bleeding. And there was a second little tiny puncture wound with just a little droplet of blood coming out at just about a centimeter to the other side of my toe. I'm like, Oh God, here we go. And I'm like, Oh, you know, just the dread of it.

And the first thought I had is, shit, I got a podcast to do with Kyle tomorrow. And we got a ceremony to do. I'm not letting that get in the way of it. Somehow I'm going to make sure I'm there. And so the long and the short of it is, is, as you know, the paramedics came and, and I just calmed and centered myself and asked Great Spirit and my soul and all the spirits I could call in for help. And you know, I just tried to stay calm, but in the ambulance on the way, they were kind

of, they kept looking at their feedback systems because my heart rate was 61 and my blood pressure was normal. And you know, they're kind of like shaking the machine to make sure it's, you know, not broken or something. And like, aren't you nervous? I said, well, you know, I don't enjoy the fact that I've been bit by a rattlesnake, but I'm, you know, I'm trying to stay calm and centered and, you know, let my body do its magic on it.

So anyhow, you know, they mark the toe and they go through their whole procedure, but in the doctor came and looked and he said, well, we're gonna watch you carefully for the next hour. And if we see the indications that you need the antivenom, we'll give it to you right away. But because it's approximately $15,000 a vial, we want to make sure you need it first. And I said something worth noting 15 grand a vial, we want to make sure you need it first. That's something worth noting.

$15,000 a vial and our good friend, Chervin, was given three vials. Yeah. So just imagine that. A lady named Charlene Penner, who was my anatomy teacher in massage school, you know, a long time ago, but she was walking home from a gathering along kind of one of the mountain highways, kind of like driving up to our house here. And she didn't see quite a big rattlesnake

and it bit her in the lower leg and it took four vials to save her life. And that was probably 10 years ago and they charged her 10,000 a vial. And I don't think she had medical insurance so it was pretty rough going for her financially, but at least she's alive. But by the grace of God, you know, as it turns out, Freddy tried to catch that rattlesnake day before yesterday with the snake catcher, and he had grabbed it just above the rattle. And once we saw the rattlesnake, after you and I left to the hospital, the girls said

the reason it didn't rattle is because Freddy had smashed its tail so bad that it couldn't wiggle its tail. And I think that the snake had climbed into the water charger to hide but was dying. I don't think it had much life left in it. And so my soul said to me that the reason you didn't get sick is because the snake didn't have enough life force to generate venom. And it was just barely hanging in there. It had enough zap to get me in the toe.

But you know, long story made short, it's just like I was just even to this minute, I was just feeling like waves of gratitude because boy, that can be a bitch of an experience. And I've known many of my friends to, you know, Shervin's been bit three times always out in his garden and stuff like that. When you see what those bites can do to you, you know it's like you're playing with some serious firepower.

You don't want to mess around. So it was just great to be able to, you know, go to the hospital, pass all the tests, and get out of there and come home. And my kids were so happy to see Papa, you know. Be on stoked. Yeah. Manna was, as you know, he was quite scared.

And so was I, of course, but it's just kind of a wild thing. But I was just saying to you this morning that rattlesnake was cuddled right up to the water bottles that are charging into our medicine. So it's going to be quite an experience to have a rattlesnake medicine. Yeah, we got snake medicine for sure. We do.

And it's like, wow, that's gonna be, it's got the energy of me getting bit, which was quite a shock. There was like, it's like quite an adrenaline rush when you realize you've been bit by a rattlesnake. It's like, okay, the angel of death is right close right now. I need to be a good boy.

Time to start praying a lot. So it was. So it was. Well, you have this incredible chart here in front of me. You knew exactly. This is great because you knew exactly what you wanted to talk about. I know what I want to talk about on your podcast. So it makes sense to jump back on it. And I've just anytime I need an excuse to come visit, it's like, right.

We check in. The timing is right. The timing is right. All right, let's do it. You don't ever need an excuse. You have a master key to the rainbow this well this is a master key we're looking at here you know we have the you're sending over the digital so if we're talking about this on video we're gonna splice some of this

with a little voiceover and just show you exactly what we're looking at here and before we do that though didn't you want to ask me a question for for your wife oh that's right yes before we get into the love and this is gonna be a long podcast So the this would be phenomenal because I doubt we'll try to make sure you're not bored though. Nobody's gonna be bored I promise you that Yeah, let's see what Tasha had to ask because she wanted to this is great It was a mother's question mother's's question. She goes, while you two are together, I need a quote, young kids and football end quote discussion to happen.

Bear wants to play football and I want Bear to do flag football while he's young. Help me Paul. Paul writes back, oh, the story of a mother's love and concerns. If Kyle wants to ask me feelings about that, I'm happy to share. Absolutely. Let's go. This is gonna be good. Well, you know, I think. That's a normal concern for mother, and you know, nobody knows better than you how people get hurt playing football. I've rehabbed more football players and I could count almost always from. The most common thing is knee injuries. That's by far the most common thing is knee injuries.

That's by far the most common. Then would be shoulder injuries, then would be concussions and neck injuries from using their head as a weapon. And a lot of my clients were professional football players. But I think it really harkens back to, you know, what is the path of a young man? And in a tribal society, how old is Bear now? He just turned 10 this month. Okay.

So he's 10, but at a tribal society around 13, 12 to 13, when they start puberties, when they go through their initiation, you know, their rite of passage ceremony, which can be brutal. It was designed to take you to the edge of your life. And I think we've talked about these things before on your podcast. But I think a lot of the injuries that happen come from the fact that, you know, most of the children playing football at that age are Pillsbury Doughboys. They don't have healthy food.

They don't have healthy food. They don't have skilled conditioning. So they're really quite fragile. And it's interesting if you look in the book, The Living Soil and the Holly Experiment by Lady Eve Balfour. And Lady Eve Balfour is probably the originator of what we think of the term organic farming. That book was first published in 1943 or 47. I can't remember. It's a phenomenal book. If you haven't read it, it's really worth the read.

But one of the things that was brought up in the book was actually brought up by a medical doctor. It was a case history of what happened in a New Zealand private school that had a rugby team because, you know, rugby in New Zealand is the big thing. And they found in this private school that they could not maintain the kids' health and vitality on store bought food. And this is in the mid to late 40s, right? So this is right after, frame it, right after World War II, right when we start getting, how do we repurpose all these shit, all these things from war into our food, into agriculture. Exactly. The beginning of big pharma. So even then they noticed that they could not keep the kids healthy. They

did regular physical examinations with doctors at different periods throughout the year. It was a very well run system. And so they made the decision to start their own organic farm and make it part of the school so that the kids got involved in it, which is a great idea today, a very important idea. They noticed that within the first two weeks of any new child coming to the school, they would go through quite a heavy detox once they started eating all organic food. It was a boarding school, so I think the kids were there for like three meals a day. And so they knew that this never happened until they switched to all organic food that they raised on their

own farm. And one of the things that the doctor for the school noticed is that the number of injuries in rugby players went almost to nothing. And where they used to have sprains and ligament injuries of significance that could put a kid out, they found that the body just snapped right back. And, you know, I read that book early in my career. I would can't remember, but I probably studied that book in around 95, which is right the year I started the Czech Institute. And so what it made me do is start and the doctor talked about how that the ligaments were really a lot stronger in the children eating organic food.

And so what I did is I started doing an experiment. I would go buy a chicken from the store that was just a commercial chicken, and then I would get an organic chicken, free-range organic chicken, and I would put them in the oven and I would cook them or the oven and I would cook them or I'd have Penny do it and then you know how if you take the thigh leg combination you can just like if you take a normal commercially ration you can just snap it no problem and just pull the two pieces apart you could not do that to an organic chicken like the difference in the integrity of the ligaments

even after coming out of the stove was mind blowing. I'm, you know, like you, I'm a pretty strong guy. And I would have to take the organic chicken after being cooked and ready to eat and I would have to snap it and then twist like three complete twists before those ligaments would finally let go. And the same basic chicken that was commercially raised, you could just pull it in half with minimal effort at all.

It would just fall apart. And so I used to tell my students to try this on their own so that they had a personal experience of the difference in the quality of the meat and the ligaments and the bones and the structure. And I would taste the bones of each chicken to see the difference. And basically the meat and the bones of a commercial chicken just had almost no flavor whatsoever. And the bones on the commercial chicken would just crumble into like nothing when you chewed them. There was no resistance to the bite. But the organic chicken had a deep earthy flavor.

Like you could taste the minerals in the meat and in the fat. You can even smell it. Like when you're eating it, you get a smell of like the earth. Like if you shot a deer in the wild and you cook it, you know, that really earthy animal flavor that you just don't get in commercially raised animals. And so, what I'm saying is, you know, when you're going into any of the combat sports today, be it basketball, I mean, basketball can be combative, it's not really a combat sport, but I've had to work with as many injuries from basketball as I have with football, close at least. many injuries from basketballs have with football, close at least.

But if, you know, kids are getting into martial arts or getting into, you know, football, they're getting into, some of them get into paintball and, you know, you can be running and fall. And, you know, it's like being a little soldier out there. The most important thing is to have a properly designed exercise program and feed the kids real food and give them plenty of water. And then I think that it's just really important for a young male's development to enter into combat sports with the awareness that you can get hurt. You can get hurt doing anything in life.

You can get bit by a rattlesnake in your own water charger. I'm a guy who's pretty tuned in and always watching. I was just so excited because you were here. That was the first time I'd ever seen a snake. Actually it was the second time I'd seen a snake inside the charger the last time I saw one and it just turned around went out one of the holes in the charger it just went away but I think you know when we have to have some level of trust that there is a divine plan I

mean I'm not saying do stupid shit by any means. I mean, like when my kids are out riding their go-kart or going on their bicycles real fast, flying around, I always make sure they're wearing a helmet. And if they don't wear one, I'll chew them out. And I always tell them, you know, if you have a $10 head, wear a $10 helmet and your brain's in there, so protect it.

So having proper gear is important and making sure helmets are not, you know, I think kids should get new helmets if because the helmets wear out. Quality mouthpiece as well. Mouthpiece. You know how you have to have the right equipment. But I think I think the fact that there is a level of danger and it is combative is exactly what a young man needs because otherwise you grow up spoon fed and I think even injuries are great teachers.

I mean, I'm not saying yeah, you want your kid to get his ACL blown out or whatever, but football comes with, you know, battle wounds, you know, whether it be bruised ribs or sprained wrists or ankles or, you know, contact injuries. I played football when I was young. I loved it. It was just a phenomenal outlet. You know, like you, I was into everything and started boxing when I was 12 and kick

boxing and spent years in martial arts. And, you know, I can't even count the number of lumps on the head. I've got four broken noses fighting, two broken ribs, I think. So, you know, my parents never tried to shield us. I used to do crazy shit. I used to take our quarter horse out and ride at full speed, surfing its back with no reins. And my mother used to get really freaked out.

You know, they look out the window and see me go flying across the field, standing on the back of the horse, surfing on my motocross bikes. I used to, you know, do stunts for my friends, and I'd put a stick in the throttle and get going about 60 miles an hour, and I'd stand on the seat and surf the motorcycle down the road and I could steer it and everything. I did. And I had, you know, many major concussions racing motocross. But my point is you listen to your body, you learn to put yourself back together, you learn about yourself, you learn to work through the discomfort, you learn what it means to

be a man in the world. And I think if we do our work as parents to prepare the child and to get their mindset right, what I used to think was crazy, like when I was on a high school football team, I was from the country, so all the kids on my team were all farm workers and they were just a completely different level of toughness. We'd go against city teams from other cities and you know, these guys would be fat and we would just like kill these poor guys. I mean, it was just like, Oh my God, you know, and that was kind of my first

realization that the conditioning you get on a farm transfers to athletics. And there is a big difference between city kids that might pump a little in the gym and, you know, eating their Cheerios and whatever else versus guys that are lifting hay bales for hours at a time and shoveling cow shit and building fences and eggs and liverwurst for breakfast. Yeah. And you know, and like my father used to castrate pigs and cows and those testicles would go out of the nutsack and into the frying pan and we'd be eating them before the heart rate even stopped And that's the kind of stuff that keeps you tapped into nature and keeps you real. So I

Said to you Natasha wants my opinion. I don't think she's gonna like it but You know the the reality of it is and it's easy for us to forget Bear is seated with Kyle Kingsbury and Natasha Kingsbury. So whatever force runs through you as a soul that loves all the stuff that you love, it's in your son. Yeah. And whatever's in Natasha that makes her wild and interesting enough to be your partner, which means she's your match from the feminine, it's in bear. And one of two things happens. You either teach these kids how to deal with the realities of sports and

winning and sportsmanship and, and dealing with the adversities, whether they be physical injuries or emotional or, you know, just the stuff teams can be, you know, teams are like interesting all by themselves. And, you know, a lot of team dynamics and a lot of people don't get along on teams. And I've seen guys on teams get into full on brawls over stupid shit, often women. get into full on brawls over stupid shit, often women. And so what I'm saying is, when we know who we are as people,

like my son, Mana, is as wild as his daddy. He scares the hell out of me all the time. Paul Jr. was as wild as me, and probably still is in many ways. I would much rather channel that and show them how to work with that, because when they're kids, they're not thinking of the grandiose ways. Like, I'd rather my kid learn how to channel that in Pop Warner football than all of a sudden have this burning urge that he's got to do something risky

and go steal a car just for the thrill of it. And, you know, the pressure of that coming into manhood and the testosterone coming on, it makes a young man vibrate. They're literally hunting for an adventure. And so if they don't learn how to meter that energy out in a controlled environment with rules, that's one of the things. My brother was a drug addict by the time he was in the seventh grade and he, and he, you know, he had a lot of pain in him.

And so did I, but I love combat sports because I could then dissipate the stress of my family and my father into the opponent. That's what I loved about football. Exactly. Smash somebody. Me too. All the shit in the world could happen at home. But if I got on the football field once a week, I was good. Yeah, I needed that. But my brother hated sports because he couldn't play by the rules. He always had to play dirty. He was always getting in trouble and, and,

and just sort of was his nature. So I watched how, because he did not have that outlet, he created other outlets that were almost always really problematic. I mean, stealing shit, fighting all the time, getting kicked out of school, you know, being rude to the bus driver, whatever it was. But when you're in sports, if you got a good coach, you learn sportsmanship, you learn self-management, you learn teamwork. And I think you can get a well-metered rite of passage ceremony,

because as Bear grows up in football, the guys will get bigger, tougher, and stronger and meaner. And so whether it be martial arts or football, you know, that's what we do. We take them into a structured, staged rite of passage. But if we don't, then it comes out sideways and it often comes out like a volcano. And the next thing you know, you got a kid who's drinking and driving and lost control of a car and killed a friend. And I saw plenty of that in my youth. I could tell you lots of stories of friends of mine that died or their girlfriends died because they were doing stupid shit in cars and on motorcycles.

And that's not the kind of rite of passage we want our kids to go through. So I think in a nutshell, combat sports with the consciousness of the parent of making sure the child is properly prepared, properly fed, properly rested, learns the science of exercise and the mental, emotional self-management principles that you have to have to be effective as an athlete. There's nothing you can replace it with in our culture. There's just no way around it. I don't know, unless you know of a place you can send your kid to go through a proper initiation ceremony.

There's one that's ongoing. I mean, you compare it, think of it this way too. And I want to jump in to elaborate on this before we get into the big meat and potatoes of our podcast today, but even if we were to take Barry to the Amazon at 13, 14, 15, or 18 when he's, you know, an adult, whatever that looks like. Yeah. And even if we stay there for, and we sit with Ayahuasca for four nights in an eight day span, that's still one journey. Yeah. There might be four ceremonies in the journey, but it's still one journey. And when you go back, you've got to integrate that into your reality. Yeah. Right. When football is a seasonal sport, you know, so it teaches you how to come into seasonal rhythms, how to prepare for something, how to stay in the game as long as you can.

And then what do you want to do after that to grow and improve? And he's not just in football. Correct. He's in martial arts. I just wanted to say that that rite of passage is something that's a regular occurring thing that you're going to work with year after year. It's the practice. Yes. Like you and I have a spiritual practice. Why?

Because we know connecting to God only when you're in trouble is not really how it works. It's kind of like, then you're just in a negotiation with God, like, oh dear God, if you take this away, I'll give you this, which again, turns God into an old man in the sky that you're negotiating with like a daddy figure. But by being in seasonal athletics, you are in the practice of learning, the practice of growing, the practice of strengthening, the practice of toughening up in the best possible ways. And I don't think there's any better way. And I actually, now that you mention it, I think one of the main reasons for the third

wave of psychedelics we're having is because so many young men in Carl Jung and Joseph Campbell and many others said, if you don't provide the right environment for a child to be initiated into adulthood, they will create their own rite of passage. And oftentimes it can be very messy. Yeah. So I think it's a practice. You know, I remember in my early years fighting, a lot of guys would get so pissed off. Like if you nailed them real good, they would lose their composure, get all mad and start cussing and swearing. And then their skills were gone and they'd come at you.

They'd have an AK too with plenty of pros. It doesn't go away in the UFC either. Yeah. So they come at you with haymakers. And so I always, because I grew up fighting with my brother, who is just a dangerous, dangerous character, and he can come at you with weapons and every other thing, I learned that you couldn't afford to lose your center, because that's when you're not able to pay attention

to what's happening, and you're not thinking about what the next move might be, Because that's when you're not able to pay attention to what's happening and you're not thinking About what the next move might be or how to react in a in a productive way so I think for me martial arts and boxing taught me the importance of of regulating my emotions and I sort of had my own system to help me manage it.

I just kept points in my head. Someone rung my bell like, okay, that's one for you. And now I'm like, I've got to even the score now. And so for me, it was like playing chess. And it was painful chess. I remember in the Army boxing team, they had a huge sign on the wall in the boxing arena that said the toughest nine minutes in amateur sports, boxing, the toughest nine

minutes in amateur sports. And you know, you could say that's probably true, but the point simply being is I I found that. By not letting my emotions get the best of me, but seeing it as a competition, a game. If it hurt, it means I'm not doing a very good job. I better start paying attention. Yeah, I remember thinking, don't let that. I won't happen

again. Yes. I want to clarify here because I know I'm going to get this question from her and it, and I've had a lot of, a lot of, uh, female friends in our, in our group of parents have brought up similar questions. And so I just want to reiterate here and then I'll, I'll weigh in on this and then we can finish with your thoughts and we'll jump into the meat and potatoes here. So Bear wants to play football and I want Bear to do flag football while he's young. That distinction from a guy who grew up starting with football at eight or nine, walked on at ASU and then got into my pro fight career after that, but a lot of dings you know we're very very similar in the wear and tear on the body. Flag football is not football.

Flag football won't teach you the things only football can teach you. Yeah. Right. And and so I'd rather my kid play soccer if you wanted a non-contact sport than flag football because flag football is it's a it's not football. It's a cheat of the thing. And you can see this because kids who grow up playing Pop Warner doesn't necessarily mean they're going to go play pro, but they do far better in high school. And they do really well in college because they have a general, if they, as long as they have good coaches when they're young, they learn the game early, right?

They can see the field look like a Bill Romanowski, right? Not super fast, but he knew where the fuck to be at all times because he had great awareness, great field awareness. The longer you're in the game, the more you get that, right? You don't get that when there's no consequences and there's no consequences in flag football, right? So when we're talking about rites of passage and, um, you know, really being able to center oneself and harness an emotional state that opens

awareness, doesn't give us tunnel vision and lead us to making stupid decisions or mistakes that only comes when your ass is on the line. And having your ass on the line can happen at varying degrees, right? In jujitsu, you're not getting your head bashed in, but you can get your arm torqued or a knee torqued or something like that.

So there's consequences for mistakes in jujitsu. But football uniquely, I think, you know, it's its own sport. It's a collision sport. It's a violent sport. There's consequences if you don't have your head on a swivel. You know, like they've taken a lot of the drills that you and I had like bowling the ring,

that shit's long gone from practices now, it's been made illegal. But the idea was, you know, coach is gonna blow at somebody behind you, you gotta turn around and be ready to eat one, or else you're gonna get ear holed. And that can happen on a punt return, it can happen on any play, any field.

And so, any particular play play any field. And so um, any any particular play on the field, I think that the bit all the benefits you're speaking about that young men need can happen in football, they don't happen in soccer, they don't happen in flag football, they don't happen in taekwondo, where do you never spar, right? They happen in real boxing, they happen in real wrestling, they happen in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, they happen in the sports where you

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against you the whole way. So they would say, K and O, those are your two judges. So you were like, you got to go for knockouts. would say K and O, those are your two judges. So you were like, you got to go for knockouts. And another thing that our coaches and on the army boxing team taught me that never left my mind, they would say to us right before a tournament, your job is to give your opponent maximum opportunity to lose. And if you're here for any other reason, you better get out of here fast.

And you know, we were fighting Cuba, Russia, Africa. I mean, we're fighting like the best amateur fighters from all over the world. And these guys came with their A game. I mean, the Russian guys, they, all these guys from communist countries, they want out of that country and they see this as their gateway out. And so they come hungry, man. And a lot of these guys, the Cubans and the Russians were, you do not want to get in the ring with these guys.

If you don't have excellent physical condition, cause they'll pound the shit out of you for nine minutes. But the thing that I wanted to share is I used to play flag football because we would play it in the off season so that we could keep playing football. You had all this other shit going on. You got all the other real tests, right? You had the other, the other. Well, I want to share a twist on flag football.

This is great. What? I did not see this coming. Well, I did. I played it a lot because, you know, when the football season's over, you know, the pads are away, the fields aren't lined. So we would just go to the field and play flag football, But it turned out to be a fucking murder game with no pads. It was more like rugby, you know, you're not supposed to be tackling guys,

but people would lose their tempers. And next thing you know, someone's just plastering the shit out of you. And I saw as many or more injuries from flag football. Now, these are guys like at that time I was 19. So it was like guys 18 to 25. And there was like zero self-restraint. You just like you got to be even more alert. So I would say my experience of flag football,

which is not, you know, by any means of the referee, it's just a bunch of guys getting together is it's, it's rugby for God's sakes. And the flag is just a reason to be out there. So depending on how you play flag football, uh, I mean, I'm not talking about, you know, kids getting together in a league, I'm talking guys like me and you and a bunch of our buddies getting together and being 20, like get ready for an ass kicking. So I think it all depends on

who's playing and what the motives are and what the intentions are. I remember being on buses going to a football game when I was in high school, and we're just sitting there like, OK, let's see how many guys we can completely annihilate. Like, we're going to kill. Guys used to be passing a bottle of like Jack Daniels around, get all numbed up before they go and just kill people. And, you know, that's kind of the reality, but that's the warrior spirit.

I mean, look, if we don't engage the reality of combat, then we just, what you get is a bunch of people that watch the Bill Gates's, the Anthony Fauci's, and the World Economic Forum take the fucking world over and no one does a goddamn thing about it. They just play dead. It all begins as a young man learning to stand up for what you believe in, have a goal, have a mission,

have an intention, and put your fucking heart and soul into it. Or you're just going to be an accountant wearing a pink jacket. All right, you tell me all about this guy. Okay, so what you're looking at is the blueprint for my 15 volume Spirit Gym book series and my Spirit Gym Mastery online training program, which you have seen and know about. And love. Thank you.

And so really what this is, is it shows you the most important things that we not only need to be aware of because they're basically the foundation of the cosmos and the individual psyche and the life process itself. So what I thought I would share to help everybody kind of get a taste of what it's like to be in Spirit Gem and what I offer in the book series, we're getting close to having volume one on, I'm just doing the final revisions after all the reviewers sent in their comments to make the books better. But if you look at the key features there on the far left you see Ohm. A-U-M underscore.

And so what I'll do, begin with, is I'll just overview the map so people that are listening can kind of follow us. So A-U-M, let's start there, ah means I awaken. That also correlates to the season of spring or the beginning of any process, whether it be a chemical reaction in your body, such as hydrogen and oxygen meeting each other to become water or what happens in a star. So it's the beginning of any process.

That's what awe represents. Now the beginnings correlate with the four doctors with Dr. Happiness because Dr. Happiness is the chief physician that's responsible for being clear on what is happy making for you, what your values are, what your goals, dreams and objectives are so you have a sense of direction, you have a north on your compass, right? So Dr. Happy is also correlated with the function of consciousness called thinking. Awe correlates with Hegel's thesis stage of a process and in my love model that correlates with sex and violence love which is the stage of human development of the child in which the ego's orientation is eye-centric.

Eye, me, mine, mommy, I want, daddy, I want. The kid is eye-oriented because that's essential for the growth and development and survival of it as a, not only as a biological organism, but as a being. It has to get its needs met. So children are eye-centric. And then that correlates in consciousness development to what's called the first simplicity. When we're a child everything's very simple. I'm hungry, I'm thirsty, I want to play, I'm sleepy. And that's really kind of what the child's instincts hover around. Hunger, thirst, rest and play. And so that's our first simplicity.

That's when the soul is experiencing life in a human body after the afterlife, which I won't go into because that's a long, long story. So then we go to you, ooh, ah, I awaken, ooh. In Sanskrit, means the ad aspect of all means I'm dreaming. And as you know in spirit, Jim, I say God's not thinking the universe into existence because unconditional love is not a duality. It has no other. There is no subject object. It has only itself.

So it's dreaming. It's dreaming manifestation in. Mind is what comes later. I won't go into it because it'd be a long discussion. But ooh, I'm dreaming correlates to doctor movement because to live your dream you have to participate. This is why the Quakers say pray and move your feet. You can't just ask God to give you everything and expect money to fall out of the sky and, you know, your dream lover to show up out of nowhere and, you know, that'd be too childish. And to be an adult, we have to participate and children

should learn to participate. So the ooh is I'm dreaming, which is the feeling nature of consciousness coupled with Dr. Movement making things happen. And that's correlated with Hegel's antithesis, which is the stage of challenge where we learn that our magic widget that we thought was going to make us millions turns out to have defects, the plastics not right, the hinges break. So we have to go through the process.

And as an inventor, I've been through that process many times. But the antithesis stage, symbolically, in numerology is five. So five, if a process begins at one, two, three, four is the planning and development, five is the testing stage. It's halfway through a marathon where you start hurting and go, wow, can I make it? And you have to suck it up. So that's the antithesis stage that correlates with conditional

love. And I'll go into these things in greater detail. The, oh, I'm dreaming feeling doctor movement antithesis conditional love correlates with the child becoming a warrior, which is what we just talked about with bear and young people having an initiation right. So that's where they're going through puberty, they're rejecting mom and dad's ideas and they're working on developing their own authentic sense of self and self-identity. And that as the child and matures into adult, transitions to become the king or the queen archetype,

which we will go into in more detail. But remember, each step we go up the ladder, less and less people make it through it. So think of a pyramid, awe, child, thesis, sex and violence loving is the base of the pyramid. That's where most human beings are at in any given time in humanity. And then when you get to the warrior stage, you lose some because as we know, current statistics from psychology and people like Ken Wilber say 70% of the world population at any age is still in the child archetype. So that's one of the reasons COVID led to so much trouble because people weren't able to think for themselves and they deferred to authority figures,

many of which who still were acting out the child phase, deferring to authority figures above them. And that went all the way to the bad apples at the top. And so the child doesn't have the discernment to think holistically and solve adult problems. So you get people that are this is where sheep herd mentality comes from. So once you get to the warrior stage, now you go into we centric consciousness. So now you have into we centric consciousness.

So now you have to be aware that you can't do things on your own. You're by now into intimate relationships with sex and you're in the warrior stage, you're a young man or a young woman, you're exploring everything and you realize if you go to work for someone, you're on a team, you're doing something in a corporation or in a company or whatever it is. So there the consciousness has to evolve from eye centric to we centric because you can't have a healthy relationship even with a boyfriend or a girlfriend.

If you, if it's all about me saying that any job to any job or you're a narcissistic person that people end up, you know, not really enjoying being around and then you find yourself getting excluded a lot at the we level. Because you can't participate at the we level, which means your childhood still isn't finished, which often means you have not been initiated into adulthood, where you realize you have to work with other people or you're not going to be successful. Nothing of any significance in the world has ever been created by a person alone. Mahatma Gandhi needed a lot of people to help him get India back

from the British. Even though he led the movement, he needed other people to participate. Every general needs a military to participate. Every corporate CEO needs a staff of productive people to create an iPhone or whatever it is. So that's a big jump in psychological development. And in the warrior stage, that's when the child is usually going through puberty, often in college, and so their mind is developing higher and higher levels of complexity. The child's mind is very simple, but as you get indoctrinated and educated your mind becomes more and more complex and it reaches peak complexity at the king or queen stage which leads to eventually to

a crisis which we'll get to. Now we go to the M stage. So I'm awakening. Ooh, I'm dreaming means I'm falling asleep. So ah is spring. Ooh is summer is fall. And then we're at the level of doctor diet in the four doctor system, which means pay close attention to what you eat because it creates your chemistry. It creates the health of your tissues, it determines the quality of the water in your body, and it determines where you're

investing your money and what the knock on effect of your own diet is. So here you'll see that's coupled with world centric consciousness. So once we get to the M level of mmm, we must be conscious of how the power of our money is affecting the world. And that needs to be first and foremost directed at the food we eat. Because if we mature to that level and we're not earth wise, then our body begins to fall apart due to the consequences as we spoke about earlier with the chickens and the young kids and the importance of food. This is Hegel's synthesis stage.

So now you're past the trials, you are mature, you're far enough into your life that you know how to bring a project to completion, which is synthesis. And if you have grown spiritually, you are now in the stage of empathetic and compassionate loving. And that means that you're able to see other people in yourself and know that they're a divine expression of some aspect of you, that everyone that's here is God. So even though Kyle's a very unique individual,

Paul's a very unique individual, I look at Kyle and I see God expressing the Kyle of me or the Kyle of God. But at the core, because God is the foundation of everything, there's nothing here but God. In my experience, from my life experience, spiritual experiences, and the model I'm teaching, and that I encourage everybody to listen. Otherwise, you don't have God, you have some other idea.

God is that for which there is no other prime source. So if God's prime source, then everything here is some expression of the divine, including all of us. So once you reach the level of empathetic and compassionate loving, you actually look for the divine in people just as much as your ego will see the challenges of them or the negatives of them. You will also, by this time, have an awareness of what the shadow is and how to monitor your judgments and convert judgments to observations so that you're not cutting yourself off from people. You're just observing what you see. I observe so-and-so shows up for late all the time,

you know, not all the time, but maybe too often. So as a boss, I've got to address this observation versus that little bastard keeps showing up late and I'm gonna fire his fucking ass. That's a judgment. So judgments always cut you off from whatever it is that you're judging, but an observation doesn't cut you off. So it is that you're judging, but an observation doesn't cut you off.

So with empathetic and compassionate love, we reach the level of observing, recognize that aspect of ourself, find it within ourself. I can find the thief, the person stealing the car, the criminal, the abuser, in myself, give myself empathy and compassion. And in so doing, I'm giving that aspect of myself that I see outside of me, empathy and compassion. I can give them empathy and compassion. And there's challenges with that stage of love that are quite complex. That's the domain of the wise man, wise woman. So we started off at the child, we became the warrior.

If we grew and we had enough life force, intention, mission, vision, and value in us, we become a king or a queen, then we mature into a wise man or a wise woman, which is what is critical to any society to help the younger people evolve. And that's the problem with culture today. Our wise men and wise women are still in the child archetype, and our culture worldwide, largely, with some exceptions, thinks old people are just kind of like hanging out, and they're, you know, they're not really people you go to advice for.

They're out of touch with reality and all the kinds of ways we've come to treat old people culturally versus native societies worship them We're out of touch with reality and all the kinds of ways we've come to treat old people culturally versus native societies worship them as the wisest people in the tribe, the ones to listen to. And they typically raise the children and educated them. While mom and dad were out doing the hunting and gathering, they were educating the children and the myths and the rites and they ran, they set up the rites of passage ceremonies.

So they were the most intelligent people in a tribe. So they were venerated. But we don't have that anymore. But in my model of Spirit Gym, I'm doing my very best to help educate people to become the wise man and the wise woman by living and practicing the teachings so that it's not wise by it. Because I got a head full of ideas. And I've been reading and watching television longer than you have. That's not wise by because I got a head full of ideas and I've been reading and watching

television longer than you have. That's not wisdom. That's just a collection of ideas, most of which have never been tested for validity. You can't lead people that way. And that's the problem with social media becoming a parent figure is it just it fills a head a child's head so full of ideas that they don't know which ones are true or not true, which ones work or don't work. And so you get a bunch of stupid shit on TikTok where kids are killing themselves doing stuff

that common sense would have said, you know, you don't want to do that anyhow. You know, it's not a contest you want to win. And so at this level, an individual's world centcentric because they're able to see how the whole world is involved in their health, their vitality, their well-being, their conscious evolution. The bad guys have become teachers, the good guys have become teachers and sort of guiding influence and inspirations to us. And then we enter the second simplicity, which means we reach the point where we realize our life has

become so complex through cultural, industrial indoctrination, religious indoctrination, that we just can't carry the weight of that. And often we realize that our ego is actually not the best tour guide. And so we come to the point where we often the king or the queen is now built an empire. They're very successful. They've achieved a level of mastery, but their life is so complex. So you think of a Steve jobs or somebody like that,

where their life is so complex that they can begin to resent people that they used to have a lot of love and respect for. They can feel like they don't have any time for themselves. They can find that their ego is getting in the way and disrupting the flow of teams and productivity and accessing the genius of others by being domineering. And it leads to a midlife crisis. So there's actually now often so many complicated relationships and so many challenges in a person's life that they kind of tap out and say, okay, I submit. And this is where, you know, this is often called the second coming of Christ, but not Jesus the man.

It's the realization that whatever God is, there's something deep inside of me that if I listen to it, it guides me and my life seems to work out better. But when I just listen to my head, I seem to create more problems for myself. I've been married three times, I've collapsed three businesses, I've had a variety of health problems, I've had many relationships with people that I really love blow it to pieces and even become enemies instead of friends. When you get to the second simplicity, that's when you really have to face the mirror and say, okay, what kind of a life do I really want to live? What values am I ready to commit myself to?

do I really want to live? What values am I ready to commit myself to? And how do I qualify who I devote my time and my energy to? And what are the values I want to make sure are inherent in my friendship so that I'm not spending time with people that I'm never going to reach harmony with? It's always going to be a battle over, you know, Trump versus Biden or shot versus no shot or, you know, all the stuff that we all live through. Right. And so that's a very, very high level of evolution. There is one more level. So I awaken spring.

Ooh, I'm dreaming, summer, mm, I'm falling asleep, fall, underscore, end of cycle. And that is the winter phase. That's when we have to go into a period of rest. We've accomplished a major project. We've ended a cycle of development because the Om cycle repeats itself, just like the

hero's journey cycle. And so that's an important stage because in the Western culture, people tend to go from one major event to another. They sell a business and they're right away starting another one. They give birth to a child and before the woman's vagina has even healed itself, they're pregnant again. If you look at our industrialized culture, there's really very little value put on rest, which has led to a tremendous amount of health problems, tremendous amount of psychological burnout, which feeds the tendency to addiction, to

self-medicate, to be able to deal with the stress of constantly having to push, push, push. We've got a shop till you drop culture. We've got a consumerist capitalist culture. So people are often financially stressed. And so we get to the end stage where we need to actually have some kind of a ritual for how do we guide our day? Because the Ohm cycle imprints itself all the way from the birth and disappearance of a photon or a subatomic particle all the way to the life of a galaxy or a universe. So Ohm is the master cycle that's embedded in every aspect of creation.

And so it's just scale invariant. Ohm is as true for a universe as it is for the emergence of a molecule of cortisol in your body, for example, which is why it's so important. And so the underscore is coupled with intuition, because to use our intuition, we have to quiet our mind and open our receptivity to the full range of conscious possibility, which means we can draw on the wisdom of all sentient beings and the wisdom of the evolution of the universe. Everything's available to us in that state of emptiness, in that state of open receptivity. And as long as we have an intention to guide our intuition, such as I could use my intuition

to ask, how is our ceremony going to go tomorrow? So I set that intention, which basically collapses the wave function and moves probability in my direction because I'm now the antenna to receive that information. As long as I can stay quiet, I can receive the answer from the totality of all that is or the cosmos or however you want to state it. But the thing about intuition is it goes beyond thinking, feeling, and sensation. So intuition is the only aspect of the psyche that can answer the questions that the other three functions of consciousness cannot. And it's the one that takes the most practice, which is why meditation and various spiritual practices are so important, because we've got to learn to let our anxiety, our fears, and our

projections fizzle out so that we can become a polished mirror, so that when the intuition rises we can see the image clearly. If we can't see the image clearly it's almost always because we have illusions that we've created through our own beliefs, insecurities, fears, or imagination, such as I'll never be successful, I will never have enough money, I'm not good looking enough, I'm not smart enough. So classically what we call the shadow veils us from the clear light of intuition. So the cosmos, if you will, is always answering our questions, but it has to penetrate the veils that we've created. And that's why spiritual practice is so important.

That's why I have 10 lessons on legitimate shadow work and healing and identifying complexes, identifying soul loss, how to heal complexes, how to do soul recovery in the principle of the Eighth Section of the Master Key Lessons. Point being is we can't really use our intuition effectively until we can get rid of the veils that are blocking the clear light of consciousness. This is why a lot of people's intuition isn't very effective. And they often don't even think they have intuition, which is not true. It's just it takes practice to learn to use it effectively. And the other thing is that you got to be brave enough to hear the answer. You know, if you're metaphorically, if you're going to ask God a question, but you're not brave enough to hear the answer, you'll always hear what your ego wants you to hear, which

means you still need to enough to hear the answer. You'll always hear what your ego wants you to hear which means you still need to do some purification work so Underscore winter dr. Quiet intuition rest make sure you're resting between The end of one cycle of development be it a hero's journey cycle be it a business Development be it a hero's journey cycle, be it a business development, be it a season of sports where you need to go into a rest cycle. From the span of love, we now enter the zone of unconditional love, which is the most evolved level for any of us to act unconditionally at any time is a very very challenging thing to do.

That brings us to a stage of consciousness called unity consciousness where we have legitimate experiences of union with all that is. So a Samadhi, Khencho, the various Moksha, these are the kind of names for union experiences. And through those experiences, we become what's called Cosmocentric in our awareness. We now realize that not only did it take the whole world to create every one of us, we had to have the Earth, we had to have water, we had to have the sun and fire, We had to have the earth, we had to have water, we had to have

the sun and fire, we had to have the air element, we had to have the mountains, the rivers, the streams. You know, if you really look into yourself, what Jung calls the self with a capital S is everything that supports you. And so we realized that, you know, the air we were breathing was being breathed in China yesterday. So we're sharing air where the water that we drink, no matter where it's at on the Earth, is part of the hydrological cycle. So, you know, our pee is someone else's rain tomorrow, metaphorically. The food we eat takes the sun, the moon, the stars, the planet, the farmer, the all of nature. So you realize that. In the previous level, we were we became world centric

so we could see how our participation in our nurture of and our stewardship of nature is really very important because it's the foundation of our very existence. But at this level, at the underscore level of Aum, we now realize that the earth itself is dependent upon the sun, just like we're dependent upon a father, it's dependent upon the moon, like we're dependent upon a mother, and that we couldn't be here without the galaxy because the sun is part of the galaxy. And therefore, the galaxy couldn't be here and be sustained without the entire universe.

So just as we grow and realize ourself as a child and then as a partner and a partnership and then as a bigger collective and then we have empathy and compassion, we realize our connection to the world. At this level of spiritual development, you awaken to the fact that the entire cosmos is expressing itself through you in the way that only you as an individual can express the cosmic consciousness of God or of all that is. And you know, we could go into long discussions about astrology

and what that tells us about our connection to the cosmos and numerology and many other things, but because this is just an overview I'll just sort of park it there. Now from a spiritual perspective that's when the soul reaches total freedom. If you can do that in a lifetime or any number of lifetimes, but you would be culminating it in this lifetime if you reach total freedom. Total freedom is extremely hard to reach. Arthur M. Young says that just a tiny fraction of 1% of people can reach total freedom. I've got a book called Mimetic Magic, which is all about memes and how they work and how memes can be used against you. It's a very comprehensive book on memes, but Kirk Packwood says probably a fraction of a fraction of

1% of people actually reach total freedom or unity consciousness. What do you call total freedom like Christ consciousness? Yes. Buddha consciousness. Yeah, yeah, Buddha consciousness, Christ consciousness, somebody who realizes their oneness with all things and all beings and actually demonstrates that through the way they live as opposed to it being an idea. And, and, and, and Cosmo consciousness is really the same

as Earth consciousness, except the same level of consciousness expands itself out to the entirety of the universe, which is the body of God in this way of relating. So it's a very hard thing to get to. So that's a sort of a quick overview. And what I'd like to do now is I'd like to focus in on how the way we love. Actually becomes the key factor that determines whether or not we evolve

through these stages. determines whether or not we evolve through these stages. And so at the A level of Aum, A I awaken, which means I hear, oh my God, look at this, I've got a body. I'm a human, I'm on earth. The soul is in a non-local, very expanded state without a body. So once the soul comes into a body, there's a definite I am. Even the child realizes it's got a body, it explores it a lot. And so the thesis is the beginning of a process.

So the thesis for every soul is I'm beginning a lifetime and I'm here to express myself in the following ways to learn and grow in the following ways, which is inherent in the IntelliKey or the guiding principle of the soul. So as a metaphor, just like every acorn holds the dream of an oak tree in it, and its intention is to become an oak tree. All of us as human beings are much more complex than an acorn. So we at the soul level have an inner archetypal sense of what we're here to grow into. Right. So your highest self, your spirit already knows what it's drawing you towards. So think of your highest self as the completed Kyle,

the divine expression of Kyle. So when Kyle reaches the state of cosmic consciousness and unity with God and the capacity to love all and life itself unconditionally, that represents the highest self. So the highest self, if you want a visual, you think of a Christian cross, the highest self sits right where the horizontal beam and the vertical beam meet. So it's God dreaming Kyle into existence. And that aspect of Kyle becomes his spirit, and it's calling forward the soul. It's what's letting you know when you're moving in the wrong direction, or tells you, hey, you shouldn't be fooling around with cocaine and addictive drugs because it's going to distract you. And so we have free will, but there's the highest self in us is always like an attractor, like a magnetic pull that gives us the sense of when we're moving in the wrong direction

or getting married to the wrong person for the wrong reason or doing things with money that ultimately disable us and disable other people. So the highest self is really the dream of ourself for ourself at the end of all of our lifetimes. It's what we're really growing into. at the end of all of our lifetimes. It's what we're really growing into. So in the beginning, we come into a body by an act of sex. So all creation in the universe is an act of sex.

Metaphorically, God loves sex. Everything is sexed, and God has nobody to have sex with but itself. So paradoxically, God is a hermaphrodite because God's got the male and the female inherent within it. The emptiness of anything represents the female in Taoist philosophy. So a teacup has the emptiness in it that allows you to pour something in it. That's the feminine, but it has a body that allows you to hold it.

That's the masculine. Your heart has chambers in it that are empty so blood can go in there. That's the womb, the feminine, but your liver is quite solid. So it would be considered a masculine organ in Daoism or Chinese medicine. But your small intestine and large intestine are a hollow tube. So they're more feminine because there's more emptiness. So the whole construct of the universe, an atom is 99.999 to the, I think, ninth decimal point empty.

So there's the yin, but the fact that it creates the illusion of solidity is the yang. So you see that the divine is always making love to itself because an atom couldn't exist without its emptiness and its desire. The emptiness represents desire, nor its fullness, which gives it its solidity and its chemical function in the periodic table. So that's the will aspect of love. So the love, L-O-V-E-l, desire, L stands for life. Life is the desire for God to live.

Life is God's desire to experience itself. O is pure potential, unconditional love. V-e, volt, electron, that is the will force. So to the degree that any being desires, it draws potential from unconditional love, and it wills. So simply put, love's like a jet engine. The harder it sucks or desires, the harder it blows, and the more power it generates. This is why having a dream is so important, because the dream is a statement of your desire to create, and it draws you forward, just like your highest self is drawing you forward through a series of dream creations

to learn, grow, and participate and work with people, share love, share intelligence, share virtues, values, skills, go through the challenges of life that we learn by. So step one with sex and violence, love is everything in creation is sexed. You've got a North Pole and a South Pole to a magnet. You've got males and females.

You've got the inside of you, the outside of you. You've got the North and the South. The North is cold and dark. It's feminine. The South is hot and bright. It's masculine. And on it goes forever. It's called sex and violence love because at this stage of development, anybody

at this level is not awake to the consequences of many of their choices. They don't see the knock on effects of cheating or telling lies or short cutting or biohacking. They're biohacking, right? They're quite immature. So it's, give me now. Give me, you know, it's the urge of the child, right? So there's a lot of consequences that come with that. And that most all of us as adults are familiar with. Like there's, you know, there's a time when a shortcut really isn't a shortcut. It turns out to be a problem.

Yeah. You know, like if you're taking shortcuts on what you prepare for food for your children, it might save you 15 minutes a day, but it'll end up costing you a lot of problems and a lot more labor of parenting. Because look, right now we have the highest rates of cancer, suicide, depression and anxiety in our children that we've ever had in the world. And a lot of people are using time saving technologies like a microwave oven or prefabricated food or best food, best food and, and, um, biohacking this and biohacking that and using AI to do your thinking for you.

These, these so-called shortcuts lead to a lot of problems. So if you don't have the depth of love to see what love's actually producing and have the vision to see where that ends up, then you're in sex and violence love because your consciousness is not deep enough to realize when you're creating obstacles for yourself, other people or for life or for nature. So sex and violence love is very important because that's when we learn what is sharp as a child, what is hot as a child, what bites as a child. We learn that gravity is real, you cannot jump off the roof of a house, and if you fall off a bicycle it can hurt.

So it's a rapid learning stage because it often comes with a lot of pain. And that's what I call the pain teacher. It comes to quicken consciousness. So whenever we're acting in sex and violence love in any way, shape or form with relationship to self, other persons, places or things, we're pretty much guaranteed we're going to generate some kind of discomfort and pain for ourselves and others or some kind of trauma to the planet, such as thinking that we can take shortcuts and just use glyphosate to grow plants faster.

Well, guess what? You just wiped out your entire metabolic system and there's a cost to that and you killed the microorganisms in the soil. You poisoned the animals, You give the animals cancer. You give the birds cancer. And so there you see sex and violence. Love is often so urgent for instant gratification and the illusion of profit that it cannot see

the ramifications of its own shortcomings. And there's the violence, right? So, and it also is with sex. It's anybody who's using sex immorally, unconsensual sex, sex with children. And some of the stuff that we now know is rampant in the world, which I think has always been rampant in the world, it's just now we have the technology and the focus to see what's been going on. So any abuse of love is sex and violence love. And that means you're still in the child archetype, no matter how much money or power you have, you're still acting out the I, me, mine, neediness, self-centeredness of a child who's not thinking about the consequences and doesn't have the depth of an adult to think

about that. So these archetypes are not age dependent, they're actually dependent on conscious evolution. And so the child is in its first simplicity. So now we move up and now we're into conditional love. So conditional love emerges when we have enough experience to recognize what it is that others can do that actually make us feel loved. All right, guys, quick break to tell you about Black Lotus Shilajit. Tired of the same old low quality Shilajit, Black Lotus Shilajit is here to revolutionize

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that she feels love. But if she is not able to get the needs met that she wants in companionship and the ability to know that you can support the kids and bring home the bacon and and do be a father or any of the numbers of other things that we need in a partner, then that sex can actually be a way of medicating a pathological relationship or an act of the prostitute archetype and being subservient because Should that not occur then a divorce might occur and then then now you got to go make it in the world on your own And all your insecurities come up real strong. Nobody's gonna love me. I got three kids or you know, dot dot dot so it it's The conditional love phase is actually the phase of the teenager

because the teenager is now aware that its ideas are different than its mom and dads, and it does not like conforming to mom and dad's ideas, which is important. And sometimes this is referred to as the necessary abandonment that our parents have because our parents aren't perfect. If they were, we would stay on the hind tit forever. We'd never grow up because we just live under mommy and daddy's house. They'd pay for everything and the world would just be full of children and it would collapse because mommy and daddy would get old and die and we'd have a bunch of children that don't know how to make anything happen. So the warrior stage is where you begin to have intimate relationships

and realize that partners can be challenging and that you need to really have an awareness of what your values are because there's sex, but then there's 23 hours a day. We've got to navigate the world with these people, which is everybody else that we're involved in some kind of personal, professional or spiritual relationship with. And so conditional love is really a stage where you have to answer a couple of key questions, particularly in a relationship.

For example, you know, you're one of my best friends in my whole life. And I, if I say to myself, Kyle, I feel loved by you when, and I state what makes me feel loved by you. Now you're aware what it is that Paul actually interprets as love. And I ask you, Kyle, you are loving me when you and I let you finish the sentence. So, Kyle, I am being loved by Kyle when he and Kyle states, I'm loving you when I find great guests for your podcasts or. You know, I'm listening to your podcast and you crack me up

or, you know, just any way that we any way that you're expressing love to me, because if I don't know that, I could think, well, Kyle's not really interested in being my friend anymore, because I'm projecting my own love model onto Kyle, assuming that he's gonna love me the same way, but that rarely ever works in relationships. I'll give you a great example, a painful example.

After 17 years of marriage to my first wife, I knew I needed out of the relationship about eight years earlier, but I didn't want to hurt my son. So I wanted to hang in there till he was old enough to try to understand that sometimes mommy and daddy just have other needs and need to move on. And so before we got the divorce, Sue said, would you please go to divorce counseling with me? And I said, yes. And so the first question that the divorce counselor or the marriage counselor asked us to answer was, I feel loved by you when and I am loving you when.

And then after we wrote all that out, she had a share. And I looked on Sue's list and I feel loved by you. There was nothing about sex on there. Zero. And so I said to her, sir, you didn't put sex on there. I said, I do my very best to give you orgasms and to really pleasure you. She goes, that isn't important to me at all. She says I don't really care about that. What I do care about is when you come home early enough to spend time with your son and you spend time with me, but you just do nothing

but work and you your career is far more important to you than your marriage or your child. And so I was in shock because I thought all the time I was making love to her was my way of saying I'm here for you, I'm here to pleasure you, I'm here to be committed to you, I'm not fucking other people,

I'm staying in the relationship. That's a common misunderstanding that men have in relationship to women. Not all women are the same, but a lot of them are a lot. I remember Tosh had me read when we started dating the five love languages. Yes. And it's got a Christian tone, but still just a phenomenal book. And, you know, I could see that both of us, thankfully, had touch as our primary sense of love. Right. Right.

So I was like, well, that's a fucking huge win. It is, you know, and it made me think of previous relationships. And I was like, I couldn't fucking tell you, maybe gift exchange, something like that. Yes, I could see now I can see it everywhere. Acts of service, acts of service as Tasha's mother's. Yeah. Right. Act of service. She'll come. She'll just start doing the dishes at our house. She'll start cleaning stuff. Even if it's already clean. That's her way of showing love. Yes. Knowing that about them. Yeah. It's very easy then to read like, oh, thank you, grandma. Like we didn't need to clean that. But I'm not going to say clean, that's her way of showing love. And just knowing that about them is very easy than to read like, oh, thank you, grandma. Like, we didn't need to clean that.

But I'm not going to say that because that's her way of showing us love. So the point being is if when you enter conditional love, which starts at puberty, because now you're starting to explore the other sex, now you're starting to deviate from mom and dad's ideals. You're doing things that mom and dad might seem risky like experimenting with drugs and going out late at night and partying. You know, so the level of responsibility in any relationship gets higher as you enter more and more into the adult territory because there's greater risk of someone getting hurt, whether

it be getting pregnant or whether it be getting overdosed or whether it be getting stealing. I mean, you know, you have relationships get complex. Yeah. And so people serve a drink with drug in it. You don't know they're drinking. And even people that you think you can trust, you realize you can't trust them.

So it takes a while to learn the way conditional love works. So right away, it works on values. Values is the key thing with conditional love, and so is virtues. If Kyle needs me to get him to the airport, and I got to get up at 4 o'clock tomorrow morning and Kyle's got an appointment on the other side. I got to go to bed with a commitment to the condition that my friend has to meet. And if I alarm clock goes off and I say, oh, fuck it, you know, he'll figure out I'm not coming and get an Uber, but there's no Ubers that come up here in the mountains, then I've basically aborted the condition upon which I had an agreement

with you. And so now I'm not acting as an adult, I'm acting as a child. So conditional love is very comprehensive. So whenever there's any kind of contract involved, you are basically signing a contract based on conditional love. You can rent this car under the following terms and condition. You can rent this house or this apartment or this overnight stay place or this vacuum cleaner or this rototiller under these conditions.

And what that is is a conditional love contract. You pay this much and you return it in this shape. And if you don't, there is a consequence. And if you disobey the contract, you are now practicing sex and violence love. So one of the key things about the love model, if you think of a tornado in the dead center of a tornado, it's perfectly still. There's no polarity there. Things don't move. That's unconditional love. If you go all the way out to the circumference of a tornado, the power is so strong it can take tubes of straw and put it right through an oak tree.

I've got many books in my library showing that. It can wipe out an entire city, we all know. So that's sex and violence love. So at the outer edge of the tornado, or just take the Tai Chi symbol, go to the very edges of it. That's sex and violence love. Take one step in, as long as you and I agree on the terms of what makes Kyle feel loved and what makes Paul feel loved, and I'll be there at a certain time and I'll do this for you, you do this for me. Then there's an equal exchange of giving and receiving and love stays alive and healthy,

but that is the adult requirement. And to me, an adult is someone who says what they means and means what they say. I'll be there at five o'clock does not mean I'll be there at 520. It doesn't mean I'll be there if I wake up and feel like coming. It doesn't mean I'll be there after I smoke five bags and drink two shots of espresso. It means exactly what you say. So you see that the differentiation between sex and violence, love and conditional love is really, am I an adult yet?

And do I have enough awareness of what acts or ways of relating is an expression of love as perceived by the other which requires that we explore these things together or a lot of assumptions are made and that's why lawyers are involved because one of the four agreements don't make assumptions. Right. So as soon as we start assuming that others are playing the same game as we without making sure everyone's on the same game board with the same rules, as long as we do that, then lawyers don't have much to do. But as soon as we start assuming that our love is the same way everybody else loves and that they agree to it, whether they've agreed to it or not, now the shit hits the fan.

And that in spirit gym, that's how you put lots of weight on the bar. That's how you go in the gym and get yourself a good solid workout. You just be in sex and violence love while participating at the level of conditional love. And you find yourself creating a string of broken relationships. And the first person you have to love through conditions is yourself. Like what are the conditions that I have to feed myself, exercise myself, maintain my

flexibility, rest myself, spend time in myself in a sacred relationship with myself? How much rest do I need? What is my personal dream? What goals have I set for myself? If we don't have healthy conditional love within ourselves, we will not grow. And we will also tend to have a lot of expectations of others because we're actually still a child in an adult body. And so what do we have today? We have more men at 35 plus years of age living at home expecting mom and dad to pay the bills who are avoiding the responsibility of an adult and avoiding the

responsibilities of conditional love and avoiding the responsibilities of intimacy and relationship and family than we've ever had. And so you say, okay, what's going to happen in 20 years when all these young kids that were supposed to learn how to love conditionally and become contributing citizens are still sucking the high and tit, playing video games and jerking off because they're not willing to engage the responsibilities that love always comes with in relationships. So, you know, these are extremely real stages of development. I've been using this model that I've developed to coach people in my professional work for a very, very long time. And so really, when you're at that conditional love stage, you're as a warrior, you have to really

decide who are my people and what are my values. This is why tribal societies had to have myths because the myth is designed to evoke a sense of awe at the magic and the mystery of life in the cosmos. So the first function of a myth is to make you realize it is a fucking miracle that you're alive, and you can say, I am in something as vast as a cosmos, right? How vast? Moving at the speed of light, it'll take you over 110 years just to leave the Milky Way galaxy. And there's now recognized to be about two trillion galaxies approximately the same size as ours. So you're talking about a level of vastness that the average human mind cannot even conceive of,

right? So we have to have a sense of values, a sense of direction. And this is not like somebody imposing it on you. That's part of the challenge. Mom and dad want you to go to school to be something respectable like a doctor or a lawyer and accountant. And you say, I want to be a fucking artist or a musician or, you know, you know, whatever it is. And so now there's there's the battle of the warrior, the war has to have a clear sense of who I am, who are my people, what are my values. And as a real warrior, IE combative warrior, like protecting your tribe,

you have to say what is it that's ethical and unethical or moral or immoral? What do you do if you capture somebody? You torture them or not? The question is what do we want them to do with us? Because you know how war goes, whatever you do to the prisoners, they're going to do to yours. That's just the unwritten rule of. That's how it works. And so. The warriors really. Identifying and going through the process of becoming a full fledged adult that can think for themselves and. Isn't subservient to the point of being stupid, for example,

how many doctors that gave out COVID vaccines with no warnings without any adequate scientific validation and the long list of things you and I could talk about and have talked about forever on our podcast just did it anyhow. So that's an act of sex and violence love, and that's an act of a warrior that does not have a sense of clear values and goes against the Hippocratic oath which is first do no harm. So the warrior actually has to go through these trials and errors which is inherent with a progressive initiation process to get to the next level spiritually. The next level of our psychological and life growth and development is the king or the queen which means you've achieved a level of our psychological and life growth and development is the king or the

queen, which means you've achieved a level of mastery. Now you are very skilled. You usually have your own domain. You seldom need the bank's money. You could do it on your own, but if you use the bank's money, you do it strategically and you have a high level of respect. And by the time you achieve mastery, you're the kind of person that will never be out of work because it's very well like Michael Jackson would never be out of work.

Yeah. Herbie Hancock will never be out of work. Mike Tyson, no matter what you think about him, will never be out of work because there's enough people that want to interview him and pay him that he'll be busy for the rest of his life because he achieved mastery as an athlete, so to speak. So once you achieve the king or queen level, now you have to deal with the complexity that comes with that many people, that many relationships, and the problems of having money and power, which can be very, very self-destructive.

So from a spiritual perspective, the king and queen still learning the challenges of conditional love and the risks of power without spiritual maturity and the risks of money without spiritual maturity. And those are the things that ultimately lead to a crisis of self. One of two things happens. You either meet God. Well there's three things that happen. You either meet God and you get clear on things that happen. You either meet God and you

get clear on what you're really here to do and how to pour your love into the world in a way that makes you feel grateful that when the time comes to die you've lived and loved as fully as you could or you stay completely self-centric and you create your own tomb in which you will spend all your money trying to heal all and hire lawyers to deal with all the problems you create for yourself and hire doctors to deal with all the problems you've created for yourself and medicate the stress of living in a flatland existence where there's nothing but money, power and greed, or you develop an

addiction to compensate for the stress of not growing spiritually and taking responsibility for your own soul's impetus to learn and to grow and to become. So the King Queen is where we end up at peak complexity and have to decide if we're ready to transition into empathetic and compassionate love. Here we could be in any of the world religions at the we level, which is the conditional love level. All religions are expressions of conditional love.

All the gods of the world religions have their own sets of rules, commandments, do's, don'ts, thou shalt's. So those are, you know, that's the problem of religion becoming the mommy and daddy is that you are always deferring responsibility to an authority figure that represents a mommy or daddy figure. And that's a big problem with the Abrahamic religions because they're the sky god religions. The Eastern religions put that back onto you. So the Eastern religions such as Buddhism, Taoism, Tantra, Hinduism has too many factions.

It can go either way, but the non-dual religions, it's all about you and taking responsibility. So that's the religions for an adult. Osho says Eastern religions are religions for adults, Western religions are religions for children, and that's a huge problem in the world. Point being is you can get stuck at conditional love because that's always a God with a thou shalt and a set of rules, whereas in the Eastern religion the deeper you go into yourself, the closer you get to God, the more you realize there's nothing here but God, and to the deeper you go into yourself the closer you get to God the more you realize there's nothing here

But God and to the degree you're actually Self-realized you realize you're looking at God always and you should love and nurture and support to the best of your ability Which means you've now become a wise man or a wise woman in this model drop in the first principle of Sufism The first principle of Sufism is there is no God but God. I worship every one and everything. And that's the words of an enlightened being. That hit me like a fucking Mack Chuck the first time you said that to me. It was like, wow, just full jing, like lit me up like a Christmas tree.

That's because of the truth has a ring to it. And that's what it feels like when you hear it. That's because of the truth has a ring to it. That's what it feels like when you hear it. So it's. Now we've gone from child to warrior to king queen, so now you just look around at all the people you've met and all the people you know and see how many of them have actually achieved a level of authentic mastery

that have people from around the world willing to hire them, who have staffs and kingdoms of their own, who could do what they wanted to do without having to borrow money if they really wanted to do it, but use money strategically, you're going to see there's not many. And then of the ones that are there, ask yourself how complicated is their lives if they haven't come to the spiritual awakening that the ego is not a good guide in life?

Well I don't think you got to look far. First of all, there's not many. And second of all, a lot of them create a lot of problems for themselves and other people until they have a spiritual awakening and learn to manage the money and the power and the capacity to make change in the world with moral and ethical guidance. So you see that we've really narrowed the population down a lot. So our next stage, which now we've gone through a Dr. Happiness thesis, sex and violence,

love child, I centric first simplicity. We've just talked about, ooh, I awaken, ooh, I'm dreaming, feeling doctor movement, the challenges of conditional love, the warrior working towards the capacity to evolve itself personally, professionally and spiritually into a king or a queen. Getting clear on how to use conditional love, which is a we-centric level of consciousness where you recognize that your co-creative potential is expanded in we relationships

and that working together creates harmony and gets things done much more efficiently and more creatively than being on your own. And so now we're empathetic and compassionate love. So this is the domain of the wise man and the wise woman and only a person who has lived enough life, grown and evolved in their consciousness and spiritual development enough to genuinely... Like Kyle, if you talk to me about challenges that you've had in your life, whether it be your fight career, your experiences of marriage, your experiences of the pros and cons of the beauty and the challenge of parents, your challenges with, and,

and, and the, the power and beauty of plant medicines. Like there's probably not much that you as a 40, what 42, 43 year old man could say to me as a 63 year old man that I can't find myself already having walked that trail. Like I've lived. So it's easy when you start talking to me, even if I don't agree with something you say, not that I have ever had that because, you know, you and I have a pretty strong value alignment. But no matter what you say, if it's Aubrey talking to me about his multiple partner relationships, I mean, we talked about that years ago on my podcast.

You know, three of us, that was a big one. Yeah. And so whether it be vaccinations or whatever, I it's not hard for me to say, where is the Paul check that walk that path? Where's the Paul check that needed to evolve out of his fight career because he knew it wasn't what he was ultimately here to do. And he didn't have a sense of wholeness in him, even when he won. I can find that in Kyle and I can look at Kyle as a man and say, Kyle lives inside of me. Because I I've walked that path, so I have a deep visceral sense

of what it feels like to be there and to live through that. I've lived through the challenges of multiple partner relationships like you have, and I know intimately what you're talking about. To be a wise man, you have to have, or wise woman, you have to have enough life experience to literally be able to find almost anybody inside of you. And even if we've never been a pedophile or a murderer or a rapist or a Bill Gates type criminal. We actually have the ability to look inside of ourselves with enough spiritual honesty to say that potential lives inside of me.

Like I, I, I can't, I can't say for sure how I would handle having $165 billion. I can only tell you for sure what it's like to have the money that I have had and do have, but you don't know what kind of darkness can come out of you when you've got enough money to do anything you want to do, whether it's legal or not. So this is what it means to do shadow work. I have to go find the Bill Gates devil in me and say, there it is. There's the greed, there's the desire for power, there's the desire for control, there's the desire to have as many women as I want as a snap of a finger. Not that that's Bill Gates, but that much power. And so when we look inside

of ourselves and we say, oh, there's that devil. When I find the murderer in me, the person who loses self-control and just wants revenge, I say there's that devil inside of me. And I've seen it rise up in me at times and without a long story you know it's in all of us. So to be a wise man or a wise woman you you you can't externalize the parts of yourself that you don't want to look at and project them on to a scapegoat. That's ultimately what we call the devil that's the collective scapegoat scapegoat of humanity's ultimately what we call the devil. That's the collective scapegoat of humanity. We call everything the devil or evil that we don't like about ourselves

and justify it by projecting it out onto the bad guy. They're the ones that are responsible. It's the non-vaccinators. They're the ones poisoning us, right? Not looking in and saying, did I really make the right decision? In fact, when you know you made the wrong decision, if you don't own it, you'll even project it harder onto those people, no matter how much science there is to back it. Now you're no different than a fundamentalist religious person killing in the name of God. Okay? So the shadow work really helps us find the devils that are in the shadow, which means we're unconscious of them and making them conscious so that when they rise up in us, like when the urge to take a shortcut or to manipulate somebody or to we crash the rental car

and instead of taking it back, admitting what we did and paying the fees to get it fixed, we go to some Mexican garage and have them bond to it and paint over it real quick and hope they never find it. So there's another layer of veil we put into our field that blocks us from true spiritual connection to intuition. So we have to grow through these things, but the point I'm making is every time you identify one of these little devils in your unconscious,

now you're aware of who it is that's rising up. So I can see the Bill Gates in me, I can see the George Soros in me, I can see the Anthony Fauci in me, I can see the Hitler in me, I can see the Charlie Manson in me. Most people don't have the spiritual maturity to look inside because they'll immediately say, there's nothing like that in me. I would never do that. I would

never sexually abuse a child. That's not the point. The point is, if it's, if it's possible in humanity, we are all human. We are all living out the same archetypes. That's why all movies are built on archetypes, the hero's journey for example. We all have the potential to do anything we see anybody else doing, but if we deny it then we don't recognize it when it's coming up from the unconscious and we do these things and we do things like signing nasty letters on bombs to the people we're about to kill in the name of Jesus. Here's one for you, rag head, you know, like you've seen during Iraq and the Middle Eastern

war, you see all these Christian soldiers just acting very, very immorally and very un-Christian. And so there's the unconscious. So there's the killer. soldiers just acting very, very immorally and very unchristian. And so there's the unconscious. So there's the killer. There's the murderer, not the warrior defending itself from an honest threat, but an unconscious warrior that isn't smart enough to realize it's a tool of theft for rich people. It's a pawn in a much bigger game, and that's the unconscious. So as we identify the trickster in us, we identify the dark stuff,

we now have an awareness of those potentials. So when they rise up, we're conscious of them, say, okay, right now I've got the urge to punch this fucker in the face and knock his teeth out because of what he just said to me. And you say, okay, there's the unhealthy warrior in me. Now let me remember who I'm looking at. I'm looking at a piece of God in front of me that's just not quite awake yet, who's only at sex and violence, love and its own evolution. And this is where it helps to remember Lao Tzu's teaching. Lao Tzu says, what is a bad man but a good man's job? What is a good man but a bad man's teacher?

And that's really empathetic and compassionate love, to live that way. So to bring empathy and compassion to sort of a close, we have to have the ability to find the other in ourselves. And if we can't find it from personal experience, we can find it in the potential for us to do that because we know it's possible for us, given the right circumstances, to do almost anything we see other human beings doing. Empathetic and compassionate love is an extremely challenging level of love because you have to have the most skill at loving.

As a guy who was raised with a drug addict in the house, drug addicts can get very, very tricky in how they speak to you and how they create a story and try to get empathy and compassion out of you. And one of the things they'll do is tell you about any story create a story and try to get empathy and compassion out of you. And one of the things they'll do is tell you about any story that they can tell you to get money out of you, which they say they will use for food, they sail, they'll use to get a apartment or whatever. And the next thing you know, they're on the street strung out again. So when we're loving empathetically and compassionately, but somebody needs conditional love, or as you've talked about before, if somebody's violently confronting you,

like trying to mug you or hurt your family, you may have to drop to sex and violence love to meet that much energy with the amount of energy it takes to neutralize it. If someone's got a gun to your wife's head and they're trying to rape your child and you're simply sitting there, Oh, bless you. I know I have that potential in me. God forgive you.

Well, you know, I mean, let's be realistic. Then you're, you still haven't become an adult. You haven't become an award and you certainly't become a warrior, and you certainly have no capacity for protecting your own family from the fact that the world can be a dangerous place. So you see, to love empathetically and compassionately means you have to know when to use sex and violence love with skillful intention. You have to know when to use conditional love to create the right conditions to get the

drug addict to the right rehab and create the right conditions to get the drug addict to the right rehab and to the right circumstances because even though it's easier just to give them some money and get them out of your hair, you're actually facilitating their own destruction. And that's not really a very high form of love. That means I'm using money to avoid the pain and the challenges of a committed relationship to someone who needs my help. And having lived in a house with a drug addict, I can tell you it's a fire walk. So empathetic and compassionate love, people use those terms very loosely and very fluffy like,

but you need to have the surgical skill of a wise man or a wise woman to really love empathetically and compassionately, or you can disable people. You can protract addiction. You can protract pathological relationships. You can protract broken marriages. You can protect children in situations that are not healthy for their growth, such as overe exposure to social media and things that kids shouldn't be seeing and potted off as unconditional or as empathy and compassion or, oh, I'm just taking the other one to be too forceful on my child and all. You know, you're avoiding the responsibility. Whatever they want. Parenting. Right. Yeah. You can eat whatever they want. Parenting, right, yeah.

So without saying, so once we get to the level of empathetic and compassionate love and we enter the wise men's stage of development, the wise woman's stage of development, we have to be world centric or you cannot have enough empathy and compassion to realize your relationship to your place and your part in the world and realize that every one of us is impacting all of us and all aspects of nature. The knock on effect of every purchase circles the globe.

The you know when you there is research showing for example that thought moves faster than the speed of light. You can actually search what is the speed of thought on the internet. I've found, I've got a couple of research papers in here, but it's been proven that thought moves faster than the speed of light. Why is that important? Because every thought you think actually circles the globe something like nine times a second. So we are often too unconscious to realize that the way we think about others and the way we think about life and think about ourselves is contributing to the collective at such

speed that everybody is affected by it on this planet through the non-local field at nine times a second. So if you take the speed of light in the circumference of the globe and say, how many times could you make it around the globe moving it? You know, what is it? 100,000, 365, what's the speed? 186,000 miles a second. Well, thoughts even faster than that. So an empathetic and compassionate lover really learns, I've got to manage my inner sanctum and the power of my mind because it's actually impacting everybody. And so if you study Rupert Sheldrake's morphogenic field, you'll see another model for how we're constantly affecting each other.

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And this is how distance prayer and distance healing works. Because there's actually no distance at all that my prayer to Kyle in Texas has to travel, because Kyle's authentic expression emerges from the non-local field, which we call God. So at the level of source, we're all as interconnected as you can possibly get, so there is no time or distance needed for that prayer to travel. It's just the intention that directs it to that part of God. So we have to have enough world awareness.

And that's one of the problems we have, especially in the United States. So many people don't travel the world. So they kind of live in a bubble and think that, you know, we're the greatest. We have everything. The way we do it is the right way. And so until you actually travel the world and see how other people live and see what study world religion and see what other people's value systems are and how they've come to see God, you can kind of be naive.

It's like a kid who thinks they could survive a persistence hunt because they've done it on a video game, you know, and the next thing you know, they're in the African desert where it's 120 degrees and they've got barely any water and they've been running for eight hours and they're about to die and they realize the video game didn't prepare you. So there's my point is, if you don't have enough worldliness about you. Like you and I have worked all over the world.

I've been all for 25 years, Penny. And I made it around the world almost twice a year, lecturing all over the world. I've interacted with the Eastern Bloc cultures, with every other culture you can think of, and I know how they all think differently. I know what you can expect in a bathroom in this country versus that country, and who shits and pisses on the floor.

And I know the Mexicans wipe their ass and throw the toilet paper on the floor. And a lot of people go, why the fuck would someone do that? Well, in Mexico, the plumbing's so bad, they tell you not to put toilet paper on the floor, so everybody does it. But if you don't realize that with a yeah I can one of those nasty the air fresheners fucked me up more than anything yes chemical air fresheners in the taxis and in the little mini shitter

can where you're supposed to throw the tee right like whoo but can you see like if somebody who wasn't cultured walked into the bathroom right after a Mexican came out and saw a bunch of dirty toilet paper land on the floor, some young 20 year old kickboxer might want to beat the shit out of somebody like that. See, you fucking pig. But if they realize that's a Mexican, they might say, oh, our plumbing works here. Could you please put that in the toilet?

Because our systems can handle that here and it's dirty to leave it on the floor. And that Mexican might go pick it up. They might not, but the chances are that there's a better chance they would if they understood that the system here can handle that. Or no teepee, you know, Southeast Asia's little hose there in a drain. Yeah. Yeah. So you see, but the point is just a simple example of if you don't have enough Yeah. So you see, but the point is just a simple example of if you don't have enough world and culturation, you're always looking through people through a very narrow lens and assuming that your way of relating and your rules are their rules. And so you really actually never see reality in a broader perspective, which means you're you're you're myopic with reality.

And that leads to problems, which puts you right back to conditional and probably sex and violence love. And stuck in a very tribalistic way of thinking. Yes, very tribalistic way. My religion against yours, my people against yours, which is ethnocentric, technically. That's that level of consciousness, which is we.

My people is we love, that's conditional love. These are the conditions on which we will love you. If you're not a Christian, we're going to kill you. That's we love. So it's far better than sex and violence love, but it quickly reverts back to sex and violence love without even realizing it's doing it because it's not got enough conscious evolution to realize that. So finally, we come to the underscore of Aum.

So we've gone through sex and violence, love, ah, I awaken. Conditional love, ooh, I'm dreaming. Empathetic and compassionate love, mm, I'm falling asleep. And we've gone through sex and violence, love as the child, conditional love, warrior, king, queen, empathetic and compassionate love, wise men, wise woman, archetype, child is eye-centric, warriors, kings and queens are we-centric, wise men and wise women are world-centric, and now we're at the highest level which for very few people make it.

Osho says in his lectures it takes 6 billion people on average to produce one enlightened human being. And that would be here. So this is the rest phase. This is where we take time out of the world as needed to center ourselves and to develop our capacity for openness and connection without ideas getting involved. It's the stage of unconditional love. It's unity consciousness. It's complete awareness that it takes the entire universe to create all of us or God. It's where you have the experience of total freedom if you can stay heart-centered and live unconditionally. But it's also true that this is where the greatest number of people that have reached this level have been crucified. Forgive them, Father, for they know what not what they do is what Jesus said

while being crucified, basically by his own people. You know, Girodano Bruno was tortured for seven years by the Christian Church and told if you recant all your teachings for teaching there's an infinite God, that there's not one son, there's an infinite number of sons, and that, you know, basically Christianity was teaching a very limited model and a very constricted view of God because he was a mystic and he had these experiences, but he wouldn't recant. So finally they burnt him at the stake. And so there you see somebody who is so anchored in the unconditional love of God that even

losing his body is not enough to make him revert back to a we level of ethnocentric religion because he knows he would be lying to God. Yeah, he can't turn his back from the truth. Somebody at the empathetic and compassionate love is very clear on three things. What am I doing as an expression of God? What am I doing with God and what am I doing as an expression of God? What am I doing with God? And what am I doing for God? So as God, with God, and for God.

By the time you're an empathetic and compassionate lover, you have a very clear sense of, I am an expression of the divine. So what am I doing as God? What am I doing with the rest of God? And what am I doing for the rest of God? What am I doing with the rest of God? And what am I doing for the rest of God? So with, as, and for God are... I'm going to jot that down while you're talking. That's phenomenal. Those are three things that I share in Spirit Gym right at the very beginning of the training,

because if you don't get clear on that, then you're probably going to have a lot more sex and violence love in your life than you can handle. and you're probably going to have the pain of waking up one day when you're 40 or 50 going, oh my God, I'm the same village idiot I was 20 years ago and it hurts. So at Unconditional Love, we now have the highest level of mastery because you've got to know how to apply all the previous levels of love skillfully. You now have unity consciousness. You now know you're an expression of the totality. You have freedom, but you also know freedom is the most dangerous thing that you can ever

live because others have a really hard time with free people. That's why Osho said freedom is the most dangerous thing you'll ever experience. And to the degree that you're free, others will not want you to have that freedom, because instead of doing the work to earn it themselves, they would rather just get rid of you, which is them projecting their shadow onto you. And that's where we have to become a master of rest, resting the mind, knowing when thinking is not going to solve a problem, knowing when doing more is not better, knowing when our body needs rest, our mind needs rest, or we need to balance and center ourselves emotionally, which can mean when do we engage or not engage key relationships, because we have to do the work to keep ourselves centered enough to be a stabilizing force in challenging relationships.

So if we don't have the bravery to step back, then we can just watch ourselves begin to degenerate in relationships with others while making the mistake of thinking that we're always right or that we're some kind of a saint or whatever. And again, here you're at the level of intuition. So you can't handle this level of complexity if you don't have thinking feeling sensation integrated and working with intuition as a whole. So in a nutshell that's sort of an overview that the 75 lessons of the Spirit Gym Master Key Teachings which synthesizes the 15 volumes is the synthesis of the Spirit Gym Master Key Teachings, which synthesizes the 15 volumes, is the synthesis

of the much more expanded teachings in the 15 volumes, which is video lessons that people get to do online, as you know, and then there's about 80-something hours of training, and then I have the weekly sanghas where I teach some key lesson that everybody can focus on and start looking for in their life and do the homework so they can do the meditations of the inner work or the practices to embody that aspect. And then I answer questions on the lessons or coach them for issues going on in their personal life,

whatever it is, anything they want help with, I do my best to support them. And so that's why I built it this way, because after coaching people for 41 years now and being a therapist to people and seeing and living my own life and, you know, seeing all the ways people get lost, confused and broken and all the ways we trick ourselves and get ourselves caught in many, many ways. When I got together with my soul to put the Spirit Gym system together, I said, you know, what is it that is ultimately what you want me to focus on and give to the rest of myself.

And so that map that we've been working off is the basis of the 15 volumes. Because I mean, there's obviously a lot more that I can't put on one piece of paper. But when it comes down to what's the essence of Spirit Gym teachings, that's it. And, you know, if you can grow in any one of these lines of development from I to we to world to Cosmo centric, you're doing amazing. If you can go from sex and violence, love to conditional love, that's a big step.

If you can get to empathetic and compassionate love, you're already in the top 20% of the world population at best, 20% would be a big number. It might be even five or 10. If you can make it through a project, like we've got a lot of young people in the world today that don't know how to go from thesis to antithesis to synthesis to rest. They don't have the discipline to get through the antithesis stage and work through the real challenges of bringing something new into the world or developing a new technology

or even finishing a project. We just have a big problem with that in our education system. If you can integrate your thinking, feeling, sensation and intuition, you'll be a very conscious human being and you'll have a lot more likelihood of evolving. If you understand the master code of creation, ah, ooh, underscore, I awaken, I'm dreaming, I'm falling asleep, end of cycle, and see that as something that exists in all levels of your life, then you know that no matter what the dream is, it takes work, and you're going to meet challenges from other people, and you're going to meet challenges from

other people and those are going to help you grow. But if you stick with it, you'll ultimately come to a place of synthesis and that'll be a celebration. That's the harvest phase. It's hard work to run your orchard and raise your animals and slaughter them. But when you have the food in the freezer and you're having pumpkin pie and ice cream and sitting around the table of the food with the family that did the hard work, then now you're in a state of synthesis. And that's what inspires you

to keep going and doing it well and inspiring others to do it. But then you also know that winter is there for a reason. This rest and introspection and moving our energies inward while the earth moves her energies inward as well. And if we go against nature, which is one of the problems with technology, we keep using lights and gadgets and social media and televisions and things to live in a digital reality

that stop us from resting effectively, that are often not supporting our ability to move from sex and violence love to conditional love to empathetic and compassionate love, that are often encouraging us to spend money on things we don't need and money that we don't have, which puts us under a lot of stress. So it's a very, very complex world brand. And we really lack wise elders and people that have reached the stage of empathetic and compassionate loving. So my dream with Spirit Gym was to start a grassroots movement to give people the tools, the skills, and the community support to do their best to say, okay, this is what's going on in life.

And it's a participation sport. I might as well really like try to do it well because, you know, we're all going to die and there's nothing more painful when you face death than looking back on your life and realizing you haven't really lived and you really haven't really figured out much about yourself or about life. Just the thought of it makes me anxious. Like I'm at a point where if I die, I have a pretty deep sense of what God is. I have a pretty deep sense of what the afterlife process will be like. And I also have a sense of fulfillment in myself that I did my best in my life to support as many people as I could and to grow up as much as I could and to give my children as

much of the wisdom that I carry so that their evolution will be more efficient and more effective and that they're more capable of handling the complexities that they're gonna face because the kids in the world right now are coming into a world that is radically more complex than anyone even born 15 years ago. Yeah. And it's getting worse. With AI and everything else. With everything. The nature of the challenges and the number of the challenges and the magnitude of the challenges they're facing. It's. You know, David versus Goliath

is a paleolithic concept to child versus the world they're coming into today. There was one Goliath in that story, one David, one sling and one rock. Now we've got each of us as a David, but there's the Goliaths are much bigger and there's hundreds of them metaphorically. There's the Goliath of environmental catastrophe. There's a Goliath of toxicity in the environment. There's a Goliath of the medical the environment, there's a Goliath of the medical tyranny, there's a Goliath of financial tyranny, you know, and on and on it goes. When you look at all the ways

that the military and all these secret organizations and all these corporations are actually so blindly walking us right into a catastrophic ending if we're not careful. You know, if we don't inspire our children to live and love fully and to really become citizens of the world and get rid of all the racial division and the religious division and realize that it's an all hands on deck. We've got to circle the globe and sing together and see God in everything and protect nature and love nature and create life affirmative and nature affirmative technologies. We have all the money and all the power and all the technology we need to do it. It's just a shift of our orientation towards how much money and power can I get to?

How much can I share with other people? And how can I do my best to make the world safe for all living beings? Because we live metaphorically at the top of a food chain, but we're wiping out everything beneath us in the name of greed and in the name of human centric orientation. We are the king of the jungle. We can do anything, not realizing that you are mostly microorganisms that you're poisoning with your purchases of commercially raised food and drinking poisoned water. So the thing that gives you the power to look in the mirror and say, here I am, king of

the world, is actually dying. So it's kind of like you're becoming more and more of a phantom every day, you know? And so I just think as a father of three children with a grandson and all my career as a therapist and my own spiritual evolution and looking at the world, I couldn't think with the help of my soul of what's more important to understand than this. Now we've just done a podcast on this. I mean it takes a lot of support and a lot of guidance from wiser people, which is what the Spirit Gym communities for. You know, you've got a range of growth and development. You got mentors coming in.

You know, you've got people like Edmund Knighton and Sean O'Lear. And, you know, I'm going to be bringing in guests. I've been doing all of them, except a couple of them. I've had Angie in there as a guest. For the sanghas. Yeah, I've had Amy for you. You're going to have Father Sean do one? Yeah, I've already mapped them all out and they're all agreed to do it.

Phenomenal. I'm just getting them through this initial stage of training, which is the tarot archetype, so they understand how the objective psyche works, because that's how the mind works. Because to play the game, you've got to know how your mind works. So I thought you know I better really devote time to teaching them these 22 key archetypes because they're really the major functions of the mind which is an as you know key aspect of the psyche. So that's

been my project and that is my personal project as well because I look at this map and so okay I need to have that burned into my consciousness, because if you leave any one of the things we've discussed out, the hole in your perceptual field is big enough to let a lot of dark shit pour in. Right? If you don't understand the importance of love and how to love, the trickster can walk right through the door. If you don't understand the importance of rest, you can burn yourself out doing what you think is saving other people while

modeling them how to live out a balanced life. You know, if you don't know how a process of creation works, you can destroy yourself in the antithesis stage and not know that you need help. If you think you're a king or a queen, when you're really an immature child, you can be very destructive to a lot of people. If you're living a we-centric life in an environment called the world population that needs a world-centric level of harmony, then you're still part of the problem. If you don't understand the growth and evolution of the human being, then you can get to peak complexity in your life and not realize there is a spiritual

life that helps you deal with all that instead end up as a drug addict or worse getting manipulated by some guru who now has total control of you and is manipulating you like a puppet, which goes on all the time. OSHA warned about that extensively. So you can't knock any part of the ohm cycle out because it's it's the structure of reality. And those are the ways that I've correlated these things. And you can't navigate life if you're only a thinker

but not a feeler or only a feeler but not a thinker or you don't pay attention to the sensory systems of your body and if you have no intuition then you're stuck to only information that comes through the limited range of our senses or your own program mind. So Jung encouraged all of his students to learn to integrate thinking, feeling, sensation and intuition. So you had a balanced conscious sphere of perception and to guide our patients into that same level of holistic perceiving, or they always have blind spots that bite. So that's it in a nutshell for what I would say I could cover in a podcast without it just being so deep nobody could follow us.

Fucking perfect. Absolutely perfect. Thank you. So we got spiritjim.com. MySpiritJim.com. Obviously your podcast will link to in the show notes. I think most of my listeners know exactly who you are and are listeners of your podcast, but we'll link to a couple of good ones in there. My podcast is Spirit Jim with Paul Check. Spirit Jim with Paul Check.

And my checkinstitute.com. Well, my personal website, which is sort of like a hub for all of my stuff is PaulCheck.com. And you can find the podcast there. You can see all of the events, the workshops we're running here. It's kind of like a nexus point because I have so damn many websites.

It's just, if you go to paulcheck.com, you can find SpiritGym, you can find the podcast, you can find the CHECK Institute, but checkinstitute.com, C-H-E-K Institute is the CHECK Institute, which is the home of our Academy, which is a five year training program for professionals in holistic health. It's multidisciplinary. So it doesn't matter what branch of the medical profession you come from.

You can even come in there as a complete career shift, housewife, truck driver, or an athlete, or someone who just wants to learn how to take care of themselves. Just depends on how far you can do the academy, or you can do the courses individually on your own and not be in the Academy. The Academy is to be trained as a holistic health professional so you can effectively

rehabilitate people, know how to assess them properly, give them effective life coaching, help them with their spiritual development challenges, which Spirit Gym has also encouraged training for Czech professionals. So in a nutshell, Paulcheck.com is the single place where you're going to get to the most place in one location. And thank you for all the support you've given me in your podcast all these years. It's really, I always love our dialogues together. And I think you and I both, we've lived enough life

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up to 30% off. My last thought there was a guy I don't know if you listen to him on Rogan's Indian guy who's a professor at ASU Arizona State. And his whole thing was on a simulation theory. And so he's written a book or two. I had a bunch of people sending me the podcast and I'm like, all right, you know, my thought is, yes, it's a simulation, but it's a God simulation.

Yes. It's not, you know, David Icke, soul suck, louche thing, you know, even though there may be, you know, dark energies that live off of that, it's not the nature of reality. We wouldn't have plant teachers like we do. We wouldn't be able to connect to trees and to the sky and to the ocean

and to a glass of water in the way that you and I can if the whole thing was negative, right? So it's certainly not the case, but. It can't be all negative. One of the things that he talked about that was brilliant in there is he said, whether it's a simulation or not, you think about video games.

There's a lot of young people listening listen this podcast that are into games. One of the things that got me away from playing video games was I had a mushroom journey and I saw I was playing a game within the game. Right. Right. And I was like, Oh, fuck, I'm making this character online. Awesome. When I am doing nothing, every minute I play that game, I'm wasting my potential to the actual game, the real game right? And, but one of the things he talked about with Rogan was that if we think of this game, simulation or not, as the game of life, we have the ability to boost our character's stats. You want more speed, you want more agility,

you want more intuition, right? And all that takes is tools and education that you're not gonna get in Rockefeller-based education, probably not gonna get at university, but listen to a podcast like this has fucking catapulted me in a major way. Yeah. And it, and every time I add a tool that I actually use and that becomes

integrated into my life, that has a pronounced effect on my own trajectory. And I can't grade my own stats on intuition, intelligence and speed and agility and all the other things, but I can see progress in all those things thanks to people like you. So I truly appreciate everything that you're teaching and the tools that you give out to people and the practicality of which you take these giant concepts and break down.

It's always the best for me to learn first. Well, thank you. I wanna just say one thing on the simulation idea. There's some flaws in that idea, as you're aware, and you just sort of highlighted one. But I think if I point it out from a different perspective, if you look at the model we've just gone through, the highest expression of God is unconditional love. Well, unconditional love cannot possibly know itself in that state, because if I say, Kyle, do you know how to lift weights?

You're going to say, yes, that's a condition. You can express your love through weightlifting, but that doesn't mean you're a master baker. Right. So. Because to know something is a condition, God has to create an illusion of conditions in order to self-reflect. And because God is God, there is nothing here but God. So the only way God can know itself is to look into itself. There's nothing behind God. God is that for which there is no other.

In the Tao Te Ching, Lao Tzu says, all things have their back to the mother, which means there's nothing behind the Tao. It's all in the Dow. Dow and God are, you know, as I use them are the same thing. So when you're talking about a simulation, if I take you to a flight simulator, you're flying an imaginary airplane with an imaginary crew of passengers with an imaginary payload and the consequences

of crashing are imaginary. But for God, the simulation is not a simulation, it's what we call life. It's actually the real experience in which God learns, grows, and awakens to itself. grows and awakens to itself. So the Hindu religion calls that Maya, as you know. Maya means illusion. And what the illusion is is that the illusion is that Kyle's separate from me and God's up there. And so that is the necessary illusion without which love could not exist,

because God being all alone has nobody to love but itself. So to have somebody love, God dreams the characters into existence to love and enters into life where they manifest in a 3D plus time reality where we can actually have children relationships, build businesses, love each other, kill each other, where we have good and evil. And that is not a simulation, because if you crash the plane in life, you kill people. If you cut yourself, you bleed to death. But in a simulation, you get beep, beep, beep. You've just died. You're out of blood.

And you go back to the start of the game or you lose some points. So this is why Arthur M. Young, I believe in the reflexive universe of, I've read all of his books, so I can't remember exactly which one, but he makes the point. You have to understand Maya doesn't mean illusion, it means the illusion. It is the only illusion. And the illusion is that there is separation from God. There is illusion that we're separated from each other. But this is the only illusion within which all the other illusions exist. All simulations exist within the illusion of life. You can simulate

anything you want, even computer simulations. You can look at all the documentaries and experts on computers saying we could be in a computer simulation, there's no way we could prove it. Well, yeah, you can make up all these stories but if you actually misrepresent what the word simulation means in the in language It means to simulate something which is not to actually do it. It's to create a model of it but God does not create models and pretend and if you

think God creates models and pretends and simply poke yourself in the hand with a knife and see if that's real or if it's just a simulation go to MMA practice and spar and see how that feels. And just remember it's God inside of you that's given you a soul, that's breathing you, that's experiencing the pain and the glory of life. So I only share that because people, if they misunderstand simulation theory, then they begin to think of the world as a giant video game. And people that have video game consciousness actually don't put enough moral or ethical weight on the consequences.

Just like Grand Theft Auto players. Right. And that's what Leonard Sachs says happens to people that play a lot of video games. They become much more aggressive, much more risk-taking, they cop out on responsibilities, and they begin to act like the world's big video game. Well, this is the one video game, metaphorically, that God creates for itself, within which it simulates the illusion of individuation and separation. And that is the necessary means by which love happens. I can say, I love you because I can perceive the you over there.

So the simulation is that God's simultaneously playing Paul and Kyle. This is why in my myth training I say, God is the myth maker that plays both sides, but chooses neither choice is always left to you. Meaning you can be Darth Vader or Luke Skywalker. It's your choice, but you got to walk the path and deal with the consequences, no matter which way you go. So this is the only myth. Life is the myth of all myths. It's the game of all games. And it's the necessary illusion for us to experience love and for God itself to wake up and say, I am and know it. Because that which is unconditional cannot know anything because to know something is a condition. So God is infinite, but dreams itself into the

finite. So love, life, and experience can give God the ability to use its omniscience to check itself against reality. Because if God is omniscient, but doesn't know if it's true or not because God has not tested it, then God's really just a stupid dreamer. But when God is that committed to itself, to learn and grow and realize what it is in life, that is why Maya is here. And if we forget that, then we can be very subject to mental manipulation by good intentions of computer scientists and people that see God through their limited perspective of game theory or whatever else it is, but we still have a penis to take

responsibility for that makes children and the responsibilities of love. We still have bills to pay. And no matter what your game theory is, if you avoid those responsibilities, now you're creating too many illusions to manage. And we have to manage. The thing called life, because without it, the game stop. It's it. That's perfect. Thank you, brother.

Oh, thank you. Thanks, everyone, for sharing with us.