Kyle Kingsbury Podcast - #412 The Liver King Story - Finding The Truth

Episode Date: June 27, 2025

In this episode, we are welcoming, Brian Johnson, known as the Liver King. We discuss Brian's visit to the host's property, highlighting Brian's appreciation for the host's home, dojo, and lifestyle. ...The podcast explores Brian's dedication to his family and personal growth. Brian shares his thoughts on personas and public figures, including his own 'Liver King' character, and discusses his journey of trying to clear his name following a controversial Netflix documentary. The discussion extends to rites of passage, the importance of ancestral living, and the backlash Brian received regarding his use of performance-enhancing drugs. Brian emphasizes the principles of ancestral living, including diet, physical challenges, and spiritual growth. He candidly addresses his use of testosterone and growth hormone, the accusations against him, and the unfair portrayal in the documentary. The podcast also touches on themes like forgiveness, devotion to family, and the complexities of public perception. Kyle and Brian both share their mutual admiration for natural wellness practices and discuss future collaborations.   Connect with Liver King here: Instagram Liver King Website Barbarian Foundation     Our Sponsors: Let’s level up your nicotine routine with Lucy. Go to Lucy.co/KKP and use promo code (KKP) to get 20% off your first order. Lucy offers FREE SHIPPING and has a 30-day refund policy if you change your mind. Looking for Shilajit? Head over to blacklotusshilajit.com and enter code KKP to receive 15% off your orderD EARN in gold and silver. Click link below for a great discount! monetary-metals.com/kkp Get back to nature. Go to EarthRunners.com and use the code KKP at checkout for 10% off. Beam is giving you up to 30% off for a limited time. Just head to shopbeam.com/KKP and use code KKP at checkout.    Connect with Kyle: I'm back on Instagram, come say hey @kylekingsbu Twitter: @kingsbu Fit For Service Academy App: Fit For Service App Our Farm Initiative: @gardenersofeden.earth Odysee: odysee.com/@KyleKingsburypod Youtube: Kyle Kingbury Podcast Kyle's Website: www.kingsbu.com - Gardeners of Eden site   If you enjoyed this podcast, please subscribe & leave a 5-star review with your thoughts!

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to today's podcast. We have pretty much the fucking man of the hour, as far as I'm concerned, the liver king, Brian Johnson. This podcast was recorded last Friday, I believe June 20th. Brian Johnson came out with his entire family. He brought his amazing wife, the liver queen. He brought his two sons, Striker and Rad.
Starting point is 00:00:17 And I got to have just a phenomenal day with them. Showed them the land, showed them the house and the property, showed them the dojo. He really liked the Fuji mats and everything we've got going on in there. He could tell it was my little playground that I had put some money behind and really use and love and how much the kids love it too. He loved the yoga hammock. He loves so much of the stuff that we're doing here. And Brian is a very generous human. He's a family man. He's somebody who's clearly dedicated to the betterment of himself as a father
Starting point is 00:00:46 and a husband. And it's something I really appreciated. And it's something I could feel around his family. Seeing everything that's happened in the last six, seven days has been mind blowing to me. And as you listen to this podcast, you'll see perhaps glimmers of some of this stuff. You know, he talks about Joe Rogan on the podcast, but I've had several guests talk to me about Joe Rogan on the podcast. Either they think because of my proximity to him that maybe I can get them on. I don't know. So that wasn't super uncommon. Obviously, as we watch Instagram now, it seems that there is a little bit more of the attraction to Joe than I
Starting point is 00:01:21 realized. And you know, that's hard to spot. It was hard to spot any, it's hard to spot any type of mental things going on because I've been around people who have a persona, right? You think of pro wrestlers, you think of guys like that. Two close friends of mine, JP Sears. JP Sears is the comedian. And when he's in comedian mode, he's JP Sears, the comedian. And when he's not, and he's grounded and he's himself, that's just a different version of him. And they're both great, right? So I don't think anything of it. If JP is in JP mode, it just, there he is. Troy Casey, I was just hanging out with a certified health nut. You know, Troy, on this last podcast we did together, talked about the birth of the persona, certified health nut, and one of his journeys down in the Amazon.
Starting point is 00:02:03 And, you know, that really is a caricature, right? Of himself, but it is a version of himself. And it's something that I think a lot of people resonate with. Some people are like, what the hell do this guy's drinking urine and they don't get it. But you know, he's been a friend of mine and somebody that's been an advocate for health and alternative medicine for decades now. And somebody I really look up to and care about. And you know,
Starting point is 00:02:23 when Troy is the certified health nut being wild and crazy, that's just him and his persona. So there were parts of this podcast where I really just figured, Oh, I'm talking to liver King right now. Liver King's in the persona. You know, the first 30 minutes we're talking about barbarian and super barbarian and apocalypto. And you can kind of see me going like, well, these are workouts, right? And he's like, no, these are rites of passage. And he dives into rite of passage and there's no one really steering the ship. We did this podcast in hopes of him getting to clear his name in some way, you know, and just to get to tell his story realistically.
Starting point is 00:02:58 He had done a Netflix documentary that is now out and you know, they film as in any documentary they film for 100 hours and they release one hour right if a if a book becomes a movie you're going to lose 90% of the book that's just part and parcel of it but in talking to him I could see that you know he really felt wronged from the director and from the movie itself and from people that really built a name for themselves off of his back. Derek from More Place More Dates in particular. And I'm not a fan of that. I'm not a fan of people that do that. I talk about the side of the food science or food scientists,
Starting point is 00:03:31 the whatever, Cybabe who didn't like the food babe. I've loved the food, babe. She's great. Like, what are you talking about? She's, she's, she's been somebody that I've looked up to for a while. All this aside, the podcast jumps around, right? I didn't get to give it the arc of the story that I wanted it to. I wanted to tell Brian's life story the way he was hoping to get through in the documentary. And it is still my hope that I can do that. I want to do that. I'm happy to drive out to see Brian and his family at Liver King Ranch
Starting point is 00:03:55 and give this podcast what he hoped this one would. I don't think this one was that, you know? I just, I don't. I don't think that we got to give the full arc to the podcast that I was hoping for, but you could clearly see that Brian is emotionally charged, you know, he is emotionally charged because of the fact that it didn't paint his family in, in, in the light that he hoped it did. And it certainly didn't paint him in the light that he hoped the documentary would. And there's, there's deeper stuff there, you know, something that kept coming up for me and something I'd love to communicate to Brian, but he's hard to reach
Starting point is 00:04:30 right now, is teaching from Paul Selig. You know, Paul Selig has been a friend of mine and somebody I've looked up to. If you know Paul, you know his background. If you don't, I'll just say that he brings forth spiritual context that is very practical. And one of the things that kept coming up for me in the podcast that didn't relate was just the fact that anyone you dam dams you right back. Anytime there's a part of you holding someone in the cave or in shadow, there's a piece of you there with them, right?
Starting point is 00:04:55 Like you're not a complete person in your fullness. If you're holding someone else down, if you are, it really just points to forgiveness. The forgiveness has nothing to do with someone else. It has everything to do with yourself, right? And this is, trust me, I haven't been perfect about this. This is shit that I've really had to work on. And that's why these lessons I'm reminded of as I hear Brian go through this podcast, and as I see where
Starting point is 00:05:18 he's been at, you know, mentally on Instagram and things of that nature. And I just want to say, dude, Brian, I love you. You have my full support. I love your family. They are fucking awesome. Barbara is awesome. Striker is awesome. Rad is awesome.
Starting point is 00:05:31 You guys have built a fucking amazing thing at a liver King ranch. You've built an amazing company. You know, to call this guy a snake oil salesman is ridiculous. What's he selling? Sunlight, cold therapy. What's snake oil about the ancestral tenants?
Starting point is 00:05:45 What's snake oil about liver, right? Yes, he lied. But to call the guy the liar king and say he's a snake oil salesman, it doesn't sit well with me. And yes, I understand why people are pissed off. He's got his reasoning. And he says that on the podcast. But I just want you to know, Brian, like I've got your back, buddy. I love you. I have resources for you. You know, I've seen a lot of people go through really challenging times of their life. You might call it the dark night of the soul. You might call it some type of manic phase, whatever the fuck you want to label it. It doesn't really matter. I have resources for you. I'd love to talk with you. And I'd love to do this again down the road where we can actually make this your life story and make this something that really grabs people.
Starting point is 00:06:25 And yeah, this is a podcast. There's gonna be ads in it. There's gonna be everything else there is in the podcast. I'm sure I'll get a lot of comments and people on my ass about having this podcast out, but you know, this is what they wanted to do. And timing is of the essence. There's nothing like right now.
Starting point is 00:06:39 So without further ado, my brother, Brian, the liver King Johnson. All right, I gotta hear, you brother, Brian, the liver King Johnson. All right. I got to hear you. You got, you got all these names for things. I've been following you for a while, but I'm not privy to the, the, the titles of the workouts. I imagine from your CrossFit days with the wads and things like that, that
Starting point is 00:06:57 you're accustomed to naming bad-ass workouts. Is that what we're talking about? When you named like the barbarian, the super barbarian, things like that. We weren't really talking about when you name like the barbarian, the super barbarian, things like that? Oh, we weren't really talking about it. I was saying that I needed Visine really bad because I did apocalypto a couple days ago. My eyes were destroyed. I haven't slept. I had to stay up that night.
Starting point is 00:07:16 And then yesterday it was 4.30 and I thought that we had a conversation. She said that she was going to me up at seven, at seven, at 7.45, we're leaving at eight. Like, okay, I'll just throw myself into the car. So no sleep upon more no sleep after apocalypto, having the brain stem fried, oh, heat stroke, mega dehydrated. Yeah, like chills, no more sweat can come out.
Starting point is 00:07:44 Well, that's what you got, you gotta break down what apocalypto is. Well, that's what you got. You gotta break down what apocalypto is. And so that's that's actually what we're talking about was Visine and and so I got my Visine. That's like Tarantino. Here's here's the how the story goes. Apocalypto is really special. Barbarian is most special. Barbarian is a rite of passage, you know, modern world. We don't really do that. We do bar mitzvahs and we do happy birthday 15, 16. You can have a car you
Starting point is 00:08:10 didn't really fucking earn if you have the money or have this other thing or yeah you're a man now. We say these things and but like nothing we did really nothing to forge them into what the world's gonna expect of them really and we celebrate it but every primitive culture tribe has a rite of passage, you know? Something of real utility, some demarcation point where they actually have to go and do something of such principle that on the other end,
Starting point is 00:08:39 they come back and they're changed. They left, they left by themselves. Barbarian, oh my my god it's turned into a little bit of a joke and I hate I hate saying this but I you asked can I say it? mm-hmm if I'm like belaboring a point say move the fuck on because I can belabor points bro okay so what ends up happening and is can my queen record this whole thing also? Queen will you just hit record on your phone and then and then go ahead and just leave it like don't hold it You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:09:11 Okay, good. And and so every primitive culture tribe had that and You know, even the machi Ganga they throw them in the Jaguar fucking jungle for three months You're 15 go by yourself Go by yourself for three months. You're 15, go by yourself. Go by yourself for three months. But you know, it's really not that scary because they did what they needed to do as dads to prepare them to do the rite of passage. So it's scary to us, but it's not really not scary to them.
Starting point is 00:09:40 To them, they know it's the demarcation point. I get to go do this conquest. I get to look forward to, now I come back, new status, new value, new respect, self-respect. Maybe I make something different, you know, because I didn't really get that before. But this is the, so no one's really scared. They're kind of looking forward to it. The Machiganga do that. The Huds do it, the Maasai. Do you know like 12 to 15 at 12? And I'm thinking when my boys are 12, 13, 14, 15 on a lion hunt? And that sounds scary to us, you know. To them it wasn't really that scary because they were ready.
Starting point is 00:10:21 Dads did what was required of them to teach in principle how to be of utility. You know, how to actually provide. How to actually do that. How to actually protect what a man's biological imperative actually is, irrespective of the morality of good, bad, get it, fuck off. Right and wrong. Yeah. The imperative of man, if you lock that shit down,
Starting point is 00:10:45 and you kind of did as our ancestors did it, we'll call it a right of passage. We readied you so you're really not scared. You can't wait to go on the fucking lion hunt. Maybe you wear the tooth or maybe you'll die. But we're going to have eight of you, a lot of you little kids, because most of you are going to die in childbirth anyways, you know, or for something else. And so if I have a bunch of you, you know, some of you are going to die in childbirth anyways, or for something else. So if I have a bunch of you, some of you will live.
Starting point is 00:11:09 So if one of you goes, it's kind of par for the course. So you're looking forward to it, party, party. Hopefully you come back, you got a good story to tell. And you're a man, and you come back. When you come back like that, you went off on a test. That's what Barbarian is. It's a rite of passage, a modern day rite of passage because our ancestors had real ones, real ones.
Starting point is 00:11:29 And today we don't have it. We have a bar mitzvah. We cake dance. You're a man now. And so, you know, the world actually has wolves in them. In many worlds. The world has wolves in them. In them, in many worlds. The world has wolves. And what's required of you, I didn't give it to you,
Starting point is 00:11:51 but I'm gonna call you a man, Baamitzvah, happy sweet 16, we'll make shows out of it. You know, and romanticize it, we'll decorate it so much, so the utility of what it actually was, the wisdom, like why are we hurting so bad today us men? You know, how come we don't have direction? How come we don't have fulfillment? Why don't we have so much family?
Starting point is 00:12:15 How come we think maybe the world would be better without us? How can we think that maybe that's an option? Maybe I take my own life? Maybe I take my own life and you know'd take my own life and, you know, write a passage that does something special for you. Write a passage shows you that you did something. It was the hardest thing you've ever done.
Starting point is 00:12:37 And if it wasn't, you didn't do it right. But it was the hardest thing you've ever done, barbarian. And now that you've come back, you realize you. And now that you've come back you realize you can do something that you thought you never could. You did it. You actually did it. You come back and now your name is even different. You're...striker what? When we do closing ceremony, who are you? Let's just pretend for a second. We're done with dinner. We're done with dinner. Everything was cool jam. Hey, we're gonna do the six o'clock fun container today, right guys? Right guys? Six o'clock fun container.
Starting point is 00:13:13 Every single day, six o'clock fun container we do, unless what? Unless otherwise spoken. So from now until infinity, you don't have to ask what time many things are because that's what's set crystallize in time for now until infinity unless otherwise spoken. So we're going to go do that. What was I talking about? Oh, the barbarian and all that. Many times I release myself of like trying to use my memory, you know, to be present with you right now like this, like this gift, you know. So many times I'll tell you a story and I'll just say, what was I talking about? You know, it's the right of passage thing to do that, to come back to. You have a new name.
Starting point is 00:13:55 You did something you never thought you could ever do. You didn't, there's no way you thought you could do it. And it scared the shit out. Mom didn't even think you could do it. Mom's even asking the coach. I wasn't even a coach at the time. I subordinated my highest swords of father and husband to try liverking. To try to do a thing that I knew that I couldn't fucking do so I'd have to give so much of myself to it that I compromised higher swords to do it. That's the
Starting point is 00:14:21 tangent. We're not talking about that. The barbarian. These guys are barbarians. You did the hardest thing that you knew that you couldn't you thought you couldn't do you have new limits. A new man a new name, the barbarian status. And there's a symbol that's under under here there's and there's a symbol. And can we shake hands for a second? Like a regular handshake, right. Like, a regular handshake, right? That's a regular handshake. Do you know Mark and Chris Bell?
Starting point is 00:14:48 Mm-hmm. So those guys gave me the gift of this. United. Yeah. And then we look like this. I see your barbarian crown. You see my crown. I see you, brother.
Starting point is 00:15:01 Yeah. And I already did, because a barbarian looks different, walks different, is different, has principles, monstrosity, is capable of catastrophe. Absolutely all of that, but the sword is sheathed, right? Yeah, because a barbarian actually has principles, you know, good and true, govern all of it. Good and true govern all of it. Every touch point can be good and true, all of it. And so in motherfucker pieces of shit, try and unravel the gift
Starting point is 00:15:30 that is my family, like the piece of fucking shit that tried to make a movie and they called it the untold truth or something. All right, guys, quick break to tell you about Beam Creatine. As an athlete, I've always looked for ways to get an edge, not just for a fight, but every day. If you train seriously, whether it's lifting, running, competing, or just staying dialed in, you probably already know what creatine can do. But not all creatine is created equal. And that's why I switched to Beam Creatine. I wanted something clean, effective, and easy to trust, and Beam makes that so easy. But like everything else, the quality matters,
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Starting point is 00:17:01 that he's ever going to make. You all should look up who made Liver King, the movie, the director, and you should delete whatever you've downloaded from him. Because he didn't tell the truth. Over 100 hours recorded, less than one, highly curated and edited exemplary through the movies like this.
Starting point is 00:17:24 I was bullied when I was younger, this is all true, it was a very tough life. It was my barbarian version, this is why I made Barbarian, because I would never put my voice through what I went through. And so I said something like that, yeah I lived a hard life, and now I've made my fortune cut. That's the movie. All of it, they do like that. And then like if you didn't cut it, and now I've made my fortune, my fortune is my family. Look at my queen, look at her, look at my boys.
Starting point is 00:17:57 Do you see how tan they are? Bro, rad my fucking Crush City on you on tan competition. We should do it. I don't know tan competition. We should do a tan. I don't know about that. We should at least try. I don't know about that yet. I got a good base going right now. I do know.
Starting point is 00:18:12 How old are you? 43. You're the gift of... I'm your elder and I get to say... How old are you? 16. Did you have a tan like that at 16? I did. I was a little sun baby growing up in Northern California. How old are you? 16. Did you have a 10 like that at 16?
Starting point is 00:18:25 I did. I was a little sunbaby growing up in Northern California. Then this is easy. This is easy. You definitely won the first one. Zero one. Zero one. But I'm going to challenge you. The first one to five wins, okay? Alright. Alright. And whoever wins gets to donate $10,000 to a charity of our choosing. Okay. The winner gets to do it. So the piece of shit that actually made that
Starting point is 00:18:51 movie, we should boycott all of that. And then there's another piece of shit that has a website. It's like more plates and more of this other thing. We should do a bunch of dating, probably not really respect women. We should just dates dates. And because we're articulate and intelligent and self-taught in biochemistry, we can try and do a reaction video, natty or not, natty or not.
Starting point is 00:19:21 Yes, and you guys are gonna watch it and you're gonna be entertained and you're gonna subscribe and I'm gonna get money. I get paid. They vote with their dollars. I get paid to make reaction videos, not doing good and true, not good and true, but trying to say Natty or not,
Starting point is 00:19:38 telling the truth, yes or no. Is he telling the truth, yes or no. And then the world's gonna pay me for it. More of the same to not do good and true, more of the same. And so we don't have to do it right now, but in kind trade reciprocity is like, this is why he's not a barbarian,
Starting point is 00:19:57 is because he's not good and true. And whoever subscribes to his channel, which I won't say because he doesn't deserve it, should unsubscribe. Every single person that subscribes to his channel should unsubscribe on all platforms. And for everyone that does the millions, I'm going to donate a dollar to a charity that's good and true. And so in kind trade reciprocity, it's like, it's not okay to allow him to not have a
Starting point is 00:20:27 good family. He doesn't have a family. He probably doesn't have any friends. He has a family, has a mom and dad. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like, you know, what's your wife's name? Natasha. And bear and wolf. Yeah. You know what family feels like? And it's kind of like, oh, might make life maybe the best part of it. 100%. And so I think that the piece of shits like the director of the untold, not the truth movie 100 hours distilled into one not true, not true movie. And then the guy that made the thing about the email things they deserve to have Health robust health and awesome families because you know what it feels like and they're never going to get it by doing more destruction to people
Starting point is 00:21:15 lying to people To try and my family deserve better than the movie that was made My family's way better way better than the lives that have been shared. And so my family's received like that wherever we go. Who's seen the movie, my family's received because as that family, they don't get the same blank canvas as everyone else. And so that's really why I wanted to do this podcast
Starting point is 00:21:43 is because that's not okay for my family there's my family's so good and To be received for less than what they are You know what the fine that's a gift too Because it'll just be a little harder for them because they're still gonna be look they're an awesome family You should see what they get to do They just had friends over and but did you guys fucking tear it the fuck up? Dude, if you get that I would love for you to come and hang out to see what we do
Starting point is 00:22:15 I mean, how we do it absolutely to share that with your family And so they deserve to have that and I'll never have that doing what they're doing Destroying trying to pick people apart, natty or not. You know, entertaining, yeah, very articulate, yeah. What value did I get to make my life better in any way? Maybe a better understanding of biochemistry, but the principle in making a reaction in the first place, we react between stimulus and response, space, choice, right, responsibility, Viktor Frankl.
Starting point is 00:22:47 So stimulus, response, everything. And so now we're just responding, no stimulus. Master builders we are, but responding is how we're spending a lot of time. And I didn't know all this until I stopped responding to all that nonsense also, until I retired the Liver King character and actually got back into my High Swords. And so I deleted all of my contacts and then just put the 12 that mattered. And when you focus on what matters and you don't respond, but there's a couple of giants
Starting point is 00:23:21 that will make respond videos. And Natty or not stuff, you know, not good and true. Not a beautiful family the cosmos will share. So to have a tectonic shift is the gift of like a hard reset. No one's saying, you should die. My queen would like to take their knees out. The vigorous circus clown in Thailand, that guy, he unraveled himself. I actually paid him.
Starting point is 00:23:51 He calls himself a coach. His name is like Sleeve, it's vigorous sleazy. Sleeve, it's vigorous sleez-vee or something like that. It's like the, what's that movie, the Lorax, the thing around the neck, the Thneed. The Thneed, yeah, T-H-N-E-E-D. He's as vigorous. A Thneed is something everyone needs.
Starting point is 00:24:16 He's as vigorous as that thing, but slimier than a snake because I actually paid him the money. He didn't refund money. What'd you pay him for? I paid him because I actually paid him the money. He didn't refund money. What did you pay him for? I paid him because I needed help because my hormones were like an old person. You know Denise. And I have Denise and other people. Denise Rexroad is a divine actual angel.
Starting point is 00:24:44 Actual angel period period and she deserves all of the credit, all of the credit and very few people talk and given. She takes care of like really important people. She takes, I think that you can say she takes care of Joe Rogan. She takes care of Joe Rogan. Does she take care of you? Mm-hmm. She had been working with Denise for three or four years now. So you know. She's phenomenal. She's incredible. She's one of the smart.
Starting point is 00:25:09 I mean, you can't call her a nurse. She's much more than that from not the poo on nurses. But her education is far beyond that. She's smarter than most functional medicine doctors have ever had. Just to be clear, she's not a nurse. But that's where she started, though, right? Oh, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:25:23 How would you word what she is? Well, she's a good practitioner She has her masters, right? She got a functional medicine. She went through functional medicine So we're both saying the same thing her credentials are locked the fuck down and an actual gift and she takes care of Some guy who's in the White House, too. I don't know if that's public so I won't say any further She just takes care of some important people. And she's a gift, man. She knows her shit. She's great.
Starting point is 00:25:51 I wanna get into all that. Let me... Can I just put a button there? I'll do it in one minute. I'll do it in one minute. In one minute. Timing it, okay. So the guy that directed the movie,
Starting point is 00:26:05 we should boycott all those. We should unsubscribe to anything and or related to the guys that made the long video about the no good, it's not good and true, not good and true, and the vigorous loser clown from Thailand, not good and true, not good and true, we should unsubscribe. And I just want to lock this down. For every single one person that unsubscribes, every
Starting point is 00:26:29 one dollar I'm donating to a charity that does good and true. So lock that down, vote with our dollars, actual change can actually, actually happen. Less good and true now into the world. More principles get locked down. Barbarians actually become barbarians, not distracted as much as a wandering man flailing about that never became the warrior, the Andrew Tates, I gotta fucking fight, fight other men, get so good at fighting other men. I'm a cobra, so fucking good, I can assassinate you
Starting point is 00:27:00 and I got a talking mouthpiece too, and I'm gonna go on Piers Morgan and do good, and then that piece of shit, Piers Morgan, they kind of become friends, you know. Not good and true, a lot of that stuff happens there too. For every single dollar goes to a foundation that does good and true. More barbarians will be carved out of fucking stone.
Starting point is 00:27:20 After barbarian, there's super barbarian. After super barbarian, there's hell onian. After super barbarian, there's hell on earth. It's a thousand bloody knuckle push-ups, three contacts, forehead, chin, right here. If your knees touch, it doesn't count. And it's always on hard surfaces from dusk till dawn. One thousand, one thousand of them. And I dare you to tell me that you did it because I know what your stories are And it's always on hard surfaces from dusk till dawn. 1,000, 1,000 of them. And I dare you to tell me that you did it, because I know what your stories are going to be like.
Starting point is 00:27:50 Oh, I could do it. I could do it. OK. Yeah, start trying and see what happens. Oh, yeah, you're right. I got to this number, which was actually not respectable at all. And then I couldn't do it again for a long time, so I just gave up.
Starting point is 00:28:04 Yeah, cool. And the only reason why I can say that is because he's a great man. He's a really good man and he undid his good when I said you don't have a lot of value you can offer in my life so just honor the barbarian. So every three months we're going to plug me back into our ecosystem. Barbarian celebration. If we're not making barbarians every three months in our ecosystem, if we're not growing like that with that kind of good, locking that principle down, and then I get a reconnect with our family, then this whole thing doesn't work and then the one thing he was tasked with he didn't do it. But he's a super barbarian. So he tried to do the next thing because you can't do the next
Starting point is 00:28:43 thing unless you're its predecessor. So super barbarian there's like six of them. That's why I'm saying this. Six of them. He'll be invited back into my life when he figures out a way he can be valuable. But you stop being valuable and when you're not valuable it doesn't make sense to have. It doesn't matter. My family matters. If I don't have enough time for my family, enough time for me, I take shits laying down on the ground because my body doesn't work regular. I don't actually eat regular food.
Starting point is 00:29:14 I make crazy fucking shit. I don't have enough T-I-M-E, T-Y-M-E for me. And so I actually don't play video games. I actually don't call on another friend. I don't do any of that This is what I do. This is this is what I do and I love doing it So you'll be invited by so sounds callous, right? But you're not a utility of no response required deleted contact Don't need to hear superfluous other things just no value to me. No value utility to my family Maybe an opportunity cost maybe a distraction
Starting point is 00:29:47 I try to give you the thing barbarian matter super barbarian a specialist fuck hell on earth Oh, you're a new fucking kind of man and then apocalypto is harder than I don't want to say harder than all combined It's immeasurable. It's just exactly what it sounds like. It's apocalypto. Okay. Yeah. Those are fantastic titles and I wanna, we'll link in the show notes where people can actually take a deep dive and figure out what those tests are and where they can start doing them. Just go to BarbarianFoundation.com. Perfect. BarbarianFoundation.com and the Ride of Passage. It's a charity. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:27 That's the trajectory. You can go to the show notes. Go to the show notes. You should go to the show notes. And then you should go to BarbarianFoundation.com. Perfect. Well, that's where the one click it. I want to get, you know, you hit me up before the documentary came out and you weren't certain which way it was going to go.
Starting point is 00:30:44 Yeah. Yeah. And that's generally the case. I don't think out and you weren't certain which way it was going to go. Yeah, yeah. And that's generally the case. I don't think I said I wasn't certain though. Well I thought you said like hopefully it goes well. You had a... I don't think I said that. No?
Starting point is 00:30:54 Okay, I always tell people be very careful when you quote me because I'm pretty certain I know exactly what I said. Maybe I heard wrong. It seemed like there was an inkling that shit could have gone sour. That was that that's how I'll word that. I'll just say okay. Okay. And you know, we were talking about timing it, you know, timing the podcast around then. And I think a lot of people have seen it right? Like you fucking have a huge following Netflix ended up itself as a huge following.
Starting point is 00:31:20 Untold is a series. So there's a lot of people that are already into those. I didn't know any of that. Kind of like 30 for 30 on ESPN. So, and trust me, being a family man, I understand how important it is to want to protect, not just from a physical stance, but in the modern world, protect the namesake of the people you love, right? And to give them every opportunity, right? As a provider for them to do the best in their life without having, you know, shackles or some kind of weighted vest they got to carry on behalf of us as fathers. It's our job to fucking lift them, not shackle them down. Make them better than you. Make them better. Lift them up like that.
Starting point is 00:32:01 Yeah. And then when you're responsible for what you just said a shackle Well, then I'm making a podcast. I'm gonna actually tell the truth Yeah so let's let's let's dive into that because the you know, there's clips and shit in there and I just talked with our friend Denise and She said, you know, she'd been interviewed for three hours talking about stem cells and BPC 157 and peptides and all that The myriad of great shit that's out from maybe not an ancestral standpoint, but from a miracle of modern medicine, right? Like what is actually working scientifically for people? And I love peptides, stem cells have healed my knees.
Starting point is 00:32:34 Dude, let me turn that to fuck that. I'm sorry. It's all good. That's speaker number four. That one's not supposed to be on at all. It's good music though. It's good music. Little hand pan in the background.
Starting point is 00:32:44 Now you still hear it, right? That's the background. You know, thinking about that, just the fact that those things were 86, in and of itself, tells a tale, right? It tells a tale of like, we're not going to show the science on why some of this stuff is hugely beneficial for people. There's a great podcast that Rob Wolf did with Paul Ck. And Paul Chek is one of my mentors. Rob is as well. Paul has a phenomenal physique, never needed anabolic. He's a mesomorph. He was strong as an ox from a young age, total badass
Starting point is 00:33:14 in the 82nd Airborne Division. And he's seen where bodybuilders go awry and get shit wrong, and there's health consequences for that. But Rob talks about going raw vegan on that. But I'll link to his podcast on the show, and it's a good one's health consequences for that. But Rob talked about going raw vegan on that, but I'll link to his podcast in the show and it's a good one, it's four hours. And Rob said all the right things in the world
Starting point is 00:33:31 that he had done couldn't shift how bad he had fucked his own natural hormones up because he was a raw vegan for so long, right, in college, right? So now he's in jujitsu and he's like, I had to work with enclomaphene and HCG to help boost back natural testosterone For me, I'll talk talk about my shit I've been on testosterone since I was 17 years old to try to play
Starting point is 00:33:52 You know football in the NFL and being my weight exact weight than I am right now And then now I walked on at Arizona State I sat the bench and then that was the chip on my shoulder to fight professionally because I knew I was still an athlete and And that was the chip on my shoulder to fight professionally, because I knew I was still an athlete. And instead of trying to be as big as I could at ASU, I was 268. I now realized, you know, they got Brock Lesnar, big ass heavyweights, I'm going to see if I can cut to 205. And from there, that taught me a lot on leaning out
Starting point is 00:34:16 and how to stay thin and water reduction and all those things. But you know, Charlie Francis had a famous quote from the, he was Ben Johnson's coach in the 88 Olympics, and he said, the playing field is level, it's just not the playing field they think it is. Right, so I remember, you know, buddies with Lance Armstrong, like the fucking witch hunt that went on
Starting point is 00:34:34 for Lance Armstrong, the witch hunt. I mean, think about that. Imagine if you saw Mr. Olympia, and somebody said, that guy takes steroids, and they pointed to one person, amongst all of the people on stage, you'd be like, what do you, that guy takes steroids, and they pointed to one person amongst all of the people on stage, you'd be like, what do you mean that guy? Like, what do you mean that guy?
Starting point is 00:34:50 This is the fucking whole field here, right? So Lance Armstrong, same thing. Everyone in the Tour de France is working with some type of performance enhancement. The whole crew is. Victor Conti, you know, went to prison because he was aiding Marion Jones, Barry Bonds. Nobody wanted to fucking, everyone wanted to see Barry Bonds break the home run record.
Starting point is 00:35:09 And everybody knew what Barry Bonds was doing. Nobody gave a fuck about that. So I mean, I just, to me, when it, when, when your thing happened, and I want to refresh this too, because I want to get the full story that wasn't told. I want to know about your life, like growing up. I want to know about the changes that you've made. I want to know what got you know the story of what got you into this because it's very akin you know being at Paleo FX guys like Marxist and Rob Wolf there right we all have
Starting point is 00:35:32 similar backgrounds that brought us to our health and wellness journey and these are the core tenets of the ancestral movement are things that stood out right so when if because somebody might say like oh he lied he lied, that kind of shit, and like you've come clean on that, that doesn't discount anything else that's happened before that. It doesn't discount a single fucking thing that you've taught prior to that.
Starting point is 00:35:53 What are you gonna say, you call me a snake oil salesman, sunlight is snake oil? Fucking cold therapy, snake oil? What are we doing here? You think liver is snake oil? Look at the fucking micronutrient profile in organ meat. Come on. So I just say this because it's been frustrating for me on the sidelines witnessing the modern
Starting point is 00:36:10 witch hunt, right? Which is effectively what it is. And it always has pissed me off to see people make a name for themselves who are shitting on another person. Like that guy has clearly done nothing in his life to earn a reputation. And yet because he's using you as a springboard, now he gets more people. And that's something that pisses me off. There's another lady, the food scientist, she calls herself because she doesn't like the food babe. And it's like, I'm going to call myself the food scientist because I went to college and I know more than the food babe.
Starting point is 00:36:42 And the food babe is preaching wrong babe is, you know, preaching wrong principles and she said that sugar is toxic. And let me let me define for me from the Webster dictionary what toxic. It's like, listen, dude, fucking sugar is not helping people the vast majority unless you're metabolically flexible, and you can handle like a little added sugar in your diet, most people should do with less. Right? Let's face it, right? I still see people, you go to a fucking airport, go to an airport and use the shitter. Go to a truck stop and use the shitter. Right? That smell is the smell of someone's diet that's been wrong for 30 years. Do you know when you smell that it's in your lungs? Because you're smelling it, so now
Starting point is 00:37:23 it's in your lungs and now it's being diffused in your bloodstream. So you could avoid that. I'm just saying, it's an example of where we're at as modern people, and for anyone to say that- It's not in the right direction. We're becoming sicker and weaker, and it's not okay. You know, we're calling it depression, and we're calling it anxiety.
Starting point is 00:37:44 We're calling it autism, pandas, anedonia. We can't remember our own names. We're sending our elders outsourcing. Our elders, and shame on our elders for not being more valuable, to restore the ancestral message. There's 12 ancestral tiddance. How strong is your time? You know, how profitable are you with your time? Grandparents are grand. Wisdom, like the ancestral movement, Mark Sisson is the reason why I learned about it. Mark Sisson and Weston A. Price is how I learned about it in the first place. It's not okay. And then, okay, that's really what matters is the message. The name never did. Snake Oil sells men or any other name.
Starting point is 00:38:31 That's all fine and good because there's attention, a lot of attention. And then, you know, unfortunately the intention was entertaining. It was entertaining. And then sometimes, you know, I get to meet a lot of people, which is awesome. And, hey, it's Liver King. Yeah. How do you know me? You're the guy that does this.
Starting point is 00:38:51 Yeah. What do you do? Did it change your life? Oh, you eat the raw meat? Do you eat raw meat? Do you eat liver? No. No.
Starting point is 00:38:59 Okay. Since we just met, could you just do push-ups before dinner? Could you maybe, or maybe push-ups with me right now? Just start that one thing, and then if you could learn about the ancestral tenants, that'd be awesome. But some people, yeah, it changed X, Y, and Z. My daughter actually got pregnant because of your supplements.
Starting point is 00:39:19 It wasn't the supplements, it was the supplements, but it's the actual nurture when you come into our ecosystem of true believers that have been crippled by respect of what we're calling the depressions and autism and X, Y, and Z, people that have actually recovered that and live that life with their family. It's their job to take care of you, to nurture you in a way. And then by the way, if you happen to have this other issue, if you, our ancestors had a similar issue, if our ancestors had a similar issue, they would eat the corresponding organ
Starting point is 00:39:50 of that healthy animal to strengthen and support their own. You should go to the butcher and try and get, if you won't do any of that, I got something else for you. But the hand-holding and nourishment is true believers that have been through the same shit and it's the tenants, most of the tenants that help. Oh, so you got neurodegenerative disease and you're having trouble there. What should I take? You shouldn't take brain. You should probably take some sunshine.
Starting point is 00:40:17 You should probably start getting into the cold. That would be really good if you start getting cold. And if you start doing some of these ancestral tenets, you know, oh God, kids with epilepsy, that kills me. Kids that have seizures and epilepsy that don't know about the ketogenic diet, that it's actually FDA approved for the ketogenic diet. A hundred years ago, Johns Hopkins was studying it
Starting point is 00:40:41 and that's when people call that a fad diet. It's like, it's been around for a hundred years. When is it not a fad? You know what? This is the thing that showed the only thing that would work for when prescriptions fail Right when when epilepsy is so bad that is that is drug drugs are that actually ain't totally true The Charlie Foundation think it was Charlie that they're the guys that titles THC What high dose THC is that we were the guys that organized. The Tito's THC? What?
Starting point is 00:41:05 High dose THC, is that what you're talking about? No, the Charlie Foundation. Okay. And they had epilepsy and drugs weren't working and they didn't know what to do. And first principles, they tried this out. The brain might be firing like this differently. And what if we didn't restricted it, some of this energy source?
Starting point is 00:41:26 And first principle, okay, let's see what happens. And then he stopped having seizures. And then John Hopkins, oh, they got interested. And then the world got interested and it works its lifestyle. It's more congruent with how our ancestors left. By default, we kind of lived a pretty fucking ketogenic lifestyle.
Starting point is 00:41:48 Depending, if you're polar, looking at Weston A. Price's work, if you're from the equator, a little different, right? Carbohydrates are more available. Yeah. Ketogenic still. You're never not ketogenic. You're measured, you of ketones, right? Hopefully at least some, some. And so along that continuum and the activity that ensues along with it too, it's just this is an energy source, this is interesting, and let's try this. And it worked, and then after it ends up working, again Hopkins gets involved, and it's an FDA and and there's other drugs and we'll try the depakotes, lithium,
Starting point is 00:42:35 these mood stabilizers, the chemical straightjacket side effects that they have, we'll just dull the whole organism. Yeah. The whole organism. But a ketogenic diet, evidence-based, similar to our ancestors. So if you come into our ecosystem, somebody who's dealt with the same thing and recovered that same thing, and or their kid had seizures,
Starting point is 00:42:58 and the ketogenic diet, you have this. Let me share with you how this worked for us. And then also brain is important because it has myelin sheath components, and thank you, and other components. That's why the brain is called brain, because that tissue organized to become that, not something else that you might call muscle or spleen.
Starting point is 00:43:20 There's information in brain for it to be called brain. Only nourishment in that respective thing that can only be Achieved by so like supports like probably isn't gonna hurt you It might have the same information that might help you but this isn't as powerful as other lifestyle lovers like the tenants Like the ancestral tenants that are free and accessible and you can do it right now and it'll save you money It's kind of awesome. You should try them Alright guys quick break to tell you about earthrunners.com. In congruence with ancestral wisdom it is apparent that we need to incorporate more simple nature-based lifestyle practices
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Starting point is 00:45:30 If you come to one of my companies, you're gonna be met with true believers that experience that same shit. What we sell is the ancestral lifestyle. We also sell the thing like supports like. Want you to go to the butcher, go to the farmers market, that's fun. There's this other thing too, and you can get in a capsule, any version, make sure it's from New Zealand because dude, the other fucking countries have... So what ends up happening, why I'm saying all of this is there is a... What's the nested topic, Stryker, do you know? You weren't listening. Do you remember? The next topic? The nested one,
Starting point is 00:46:12 because this was a small, it was okay. The world is living with depression, anxiety, infertility, dementia and we've relegated, it's a diagnosis, we've labeled it because it fits in a DSM fucking book. If you have this number of subjective metaphors, now we've figured it out, that's what you have, take this other thing for it, sicker and weaker we're becoming. Less love, less family, that sucks.
Starting point is 00:46:40 More not good and true, anger, frustration, less love, less patience, less grace. That's not okay. And so the name doesn't matter, the message fucking matters. It's the message that matters. And so taking steroids, the vigorous circus clown that said I was on a billion things. Denise Rexroad was trying to help me. She was an angel and you know it. I wasn't buying these things illegally. I was trying these different things, not at the same time, but all of those things, all
Starting point is 00:47:19 of that was true. I hired him because I needed help, because I couldn't figure shit out, because I had brain fog that was horrible I was trying to do a lot of things and I'm gonna try this liver King thing by the way I'm gonna try this liver King thing. So I don't know who could help me So, you know who I I asked somebody and the somebody said there's this guy that's really smart His name is Derek. His name is Derek. And so I emailed Derek Derek I got problems all this that, that, and the other.
Starting point is 00:47:46 Could you help me? Could you, you got me? Send. No response, no response before I started Liver King, you know. So he had the email the whole time, the whole time he had it. And then, so what ends up happening is he doesn't help me. There's another really smart dude, Vigorous Sleeve. So I hire him, actually pay him two payments,
Starting point is 00:48:08 and then he unravels his contract as a man to not honor the contract at all, and to stop responding to me after attempting to guide me with certain things, and then a lie after lie after lie, and then to reach out and to try and share it, not good and true, a lot of not good and true. And so taking steroids became the thing
Starting point is 00:48:33 Liar king the liar king liar king liar king and and so he's probably gonna go away it's probably gonna go away just tuck him away and you'll go away and But I did kind gonna go away. Just tuck them away and you'll go away and but I Did kind of go away recently But what ends up happening is the truth gets told the bill comes due And I wasn't on all those things at one time all that money that's spent on steroids is All that money spent on growth hormone because the testosterone cream that I have in here, that testosterone cream's like $50 a month,
Starting point is 00:49:08 maybe $100 a month. So really spend $11,000 a month on steroids, oh, I'm sorry, $11,000 a month on a peptide, and $100 a month, not on steroids, on steroid, on a steroid, but I'm gonna apologize and say, I took steroids and I'm gonna introduce myself by saying I take steroids. That's the thing. Hurting somebody, I couldn't figure out who did I hurt? Was it intentional? Did I
Starting point is 00:49:34 premeditate to hurt or to gain an unfair advantage over a single person? Maybe it could have even been the opposite. I didn't watch social media. I called it anti-social media. I never had any of this stuff. I didn't watch social media. I called it anti-social media. I never had any of this stuff. I didn't know that Natty or not was a thing. I didn't know it could become a thing. Kind of clever, you know, whenever I first heard it was a thing.
Starting point is 00:49:53 So prior to that, people are starting to ask me on the internet, do you take steroids? Young kids, young kids. And so right back, oh my god, how should I answer this? Do I take steroids? The message is what matters. The message is what matters. I don't matter. It's the message. Nope. No, don't you believe that you could become anything? Don't you think you too could become anything? Just try. Because I was nothing, like really nothing.
Starting point is 00:50:25 And it was really hard for a long time. So I kind of know what it's like and you could become something without steroids. And so I started it. That's what I said. And then I didn't know it was actually a thing, you know, Natty or not. Then there's a video, you know, there's a video, the first one. Natty or not, I don't know. I don't know. Second one, I don't know, but millions of people still watch it, you know. I'm not sure what good is it doing? What's it actually doing? What's its purpose?
Starting point is 00:51:07 Maybe it's just a gain attention Maybe it's a gain attention But we'll take the blessings if we got attention because of that a lot of attention followers that you're able to share I hope maybe some of the message, you know, we'll do good. Hope some of the message will do good But then it's the liar king the liar king, the liar king, and then my queen knows the truth and people close to me know the truth and they say, how come you don't just tell people
Starting point is 00:51:34 the truth, that you've only been on testosterone cream for years and growth hormone. And growth hormone, many times I don't take it at all. When I have an injury right now I have a lot of injuries. My intestines are... and so I'll take more when I have an injury and I still take like a maintenance dose. So there's a utility, like any technology, fire is a utility. Spear technology became a utility. Projectile utility.
Starting point is 00:52:12 Technology is anything that can be used as a utility. And so testosterone cream was made. It's like the arrow. Someone made an arrow. Then out of some other kind of principle, I'll let you guys use the arrow, kill, feed your family. And instead of me using that technology, I'm just going to say no, because I'm ancestral because I'm ancestral, you know.
Starting point is 00:52:34 And meanwhile, everyone's life is getting better. But yours, have you seen the Croods? Mm hmm. Watch it every year. Every year. Have you seen Wally? You all fucking love Wally. Watch it every year. My dad just did a cruise.ALL-E? No, I fucking love WALL-E. Watch it every year. My dad just did a cruise. He's 70. The cruise.
Starting point is 00:52:49 But he did a cruise. I know you're talking about the cruise. Oh, oh. But he just did an actual cruise to Alaska and he said it felt like the Axiom from WALL-E. Oh, oh. People floating around, getting their food delivered right to them. I can't get that image out of my head. I mean, I was dying.
Starting point is 00:53:04 He's like, I'm in the gym every day. I haven't touched a single carbohydrate while I've been here. You know, he's trying to get- Does your dad look good? He does. He's had some ups and downs, but yeah, he's physically fit, but certainly by comparison,
Starting point is 00:53:15 both my parents still have great physiques for their age, yeah. Okay, good, good. Yeah. Because that's, we laugh with that's happening because that's what he saw. And that's why the movie's really important because every year that inches closer to the year
Starting point is 00:53:31 the movie has made the axiom and all that, Elon's trying to do the axiom. And we are doing the people thing. It's actually happening. And so I want to be the biggest fan of that movie WALL-E. I feel like I want to promote it, re-release it, because WALL-E is such a beautiful, elegant teacher. Genius has made it. They didn't
Starting point is 00:53:55 make a second one. Why not? You know what a blockbuster the first one was and how much merch the first one sold? Why didn't they make a second one? Someone with genius, honor and morale, like they did this right and I'm like oh my god it's so good. How do I promote it? How can I promote Wally? It's such a good movie because that's happening. We're becoming sicker and weaker. The message is what matters. That's why I started to lock down. I don't take steroids and since I know you're going to ask, let me just go ahead and prospectively bring that up. I'll control
Starting point is 00:54:30 that one. I'll control that one. And so that's the thing that I lied about. And so I became a liar. And instead of like, actually what I am, the one thing that I lied about became my reputation. But that is my reputation and I made those decisions. I earned every bit of every fucking hate. I earned every bit of the support, so many people. So many, and you know real men? Like real man, servicemen, and fighters. These guys that you go to the gun show,
Starting point is 00:55:04 you find a lot of friends real men a lot of friends and then people that aren't so friendly that might capitulate something from the audience anonymously and then I'll turn around and I'll say who said that who said that who Who said that? Who said that? Sometimes you don't get a cricket. And I said, yeah, that's true. Why are you saying it now? Is it to get attention? Because you have my attention, but you have my attention.
Starting point is 00:55:39 Why are you saying it? Because you took steroids, because you deceived people. You're right, I took steroids. And it was never my intention to deceive people. It's the message that matters. I hope that you'll know what those that message is and you probably never will. So push ups before dinner. Do push up. Never forget push ups before dinner, you know. The problem I want to interject here, I think the big problem for people like if you're if you're Lance, like you discredit everything
Starting point is 00:56:08 the guy's ever done, right? So I get why Lance lied. But for someone in your circumstance, why lie? Well, the second somebody says, yes, I take testosterone replacement therapy. Yes, I have HRT, whatever. I have a prescription for growth hormone and testosterone, and I use peptides on the side is to the average person. That's the first
Starting point is 00:56:30 the first give me on why you look the way that you look and why I'm never going to look that way. So let me discredit everything else. And the buck stops there for a lot of people. Right. And so I can see why that is problematic when you're trying to push a movement, while you're trying to do things. It derails the arguments. Like, listen, there are millions of people on testosterone replacement therapy that do not look good, right? But they enjoy the increase in libido. They enjoy the increase in energy and vigor. Maybe they add 20 pounds to their bench press, but they're not shredded.
Starting point is 00:57:03 They're not putting in the same work you are, right? They're not doing all the other intangibles That actually make you look the way that you look and yes, you got testosterone growth hormone helping but it's it's it's insane to me that That is like a conversation killer Just simply because of the fact that people really don't know right people really don't know How to get that far, you know, and so it's really easy for people that don't look that way to say, oh, that's why he looks that way. Like I said, man, I took a gang of shit when I was in college.
Starting point is 00:57:35 Oh, that's fine. Yeah, all because it's almost like egotistical. You know, the truth is, I worked really, really hard. The deeper truth, I think you alluded to earlier is when someone says, how long have you been working out? You probably don't want to tell them the 30 something years because oh my God, if that takes 30 something years, I might not start. So I say, why are you asking?
Starting point is 00:57:55 And then we get to the, you know what you should do is you should start. You should start because really fast, you could look really good. Pushups before dinner. And you'll feel good. You'll feel good. And so the message matters. That's how it started. And you know, that you can forget everything that I did. Everything that I did. And all of that can be
Starting point is 00:58:18 tarnished because it was never for me. The ancestral message, but we already live it. My boys are awesome because of it. Our family is awesome, our ranch is awesome, animals treated the same way. I wanted to share it. And the network that said that they were going to tell the truth, thought it would be interesting to make a movie of it too, to share it. And that wasn't, when you edit stuff in your network and you have to pay for stuff, then we try and sell things that people might want to buy.
Starting point is 00:58:53 And sometimes people want to buy things that aren't as positive. We like negative stuff for some reason. We like negative stuff. So they try to make that thing. Me being a liar, you know, what I was trying to do is share some tenets that I believe in so deeply because it changed our lives. They don't cost anything. You can do them right now. It actually could change your life tomorrow. When you start, if you've not put your feet on the ground, a lot of people haven't. Once you immediately connect
Starting point is 00:59:24 with the earth, it's really interesting when you come back, how you feel. No explanation required. But if you, I'm like, when's the last time you really got sun? We avoid it like it's so villainous. They do here in Texas with the heat, and how do you think you attenuate? Go for a jog in the middle of the day when it's that hot hot and then tell me that you can't withstand the sun after that. If you jog in the midday sun in Texas in the summertime, you make the heat and it's not a
Starting point is 00:59:53 problem, right? You become so in tune with it that you just go out, you sweat, you feel good. I do think it's important to, if possible, start when you can, right? Middle summer. But if you actually start getting, if you go outside every day, and as it's warming up, the adaptations that you get is guess what? Your core temperature gets to stay the same. Your thermoregulatory mechanisms like sweating or shivering, they start to kick in.
Starting point is 01:00:18 The biological benefits from those things start to give you more of the same, and now the adaptations happen in a slower gentle kind of way but to go running at two o'clock and do apocalypto like I did the day after Father's Day you don't just start go day one you need to start just fucking go but like adaptations take time you know if you just make it part of your daily routine,
Starting point is 01:00:45 you end up not getting hot. You just sweat a bunch. And guess what happens when you sweat a bunch? You might be wet, but all those toxins are gone. The liver that doesn't actually collect them, filters them and processes them, that gets to operate a little bit better. A second brain of ours, the liver,
Starting point is 01:01:03 gets to operate a little bit better. And a bunch of ours. The liver gets operated a little bit better and a bunch of really cool things happen when you start doing some of these things. So the lie, you know, kind of undercut the messenger killed the message but the message just started. You know, that liver king, there was so many embarrassing things that I did, you know, but I watched the movie I'm like, I remember that I remember and you got to remember like first of all that we filmed it like a year ago Or a year and a half ago or something and then most of what they showed was way before that too So if you're a man of any kind of value and you have done your job a little bit and you've grown a little bit Yeah, you have the right to be embarrassed as fuck
Starting point is 01:01:45 about content that many years older. Watching, oh my God, the messenger did fuck that up, did fuck that up. Taking notes I gotta do. And to not fuck it up again, nobody gets to offer me the second chance. I'm taking it, that's what I'm doing. I'm capable of doing it, I know how to do it.
Starting point is 01:02:05 My family, they signed up for the movie, actually, that no one wanted to do it. The amount that they paid us would end up costing me a ton of money because I actually make real money. And then what they paid me was so insignificant. And it was, if you want to pay me 100x that then I could make I'll make a second one but if not that's fine the number you're gonna pay me Mays will be divided by whatever it doesn't matter it's inconsequential I'm making it to
Starting point is 01:02:36 try and do some good and true to show these tenants and so they didn't do that they undercut it they They did something else. What I'm doing, it's not even what I'm doing. I call it King's time. It's King's time. What I've learned to do is discern what matters, nothing that doesn't. Be profitable as fuck with time.
Starting point is 01:02:58 And then bridge the gap, the delta to perfect, to discern what matters. Be profitable with time, delta to perfect, what's the action you could have done differently, and then start doing that in real time, and it's like, oh, perfect, flow, flow, flow, flow, and then when something is done perfectly, that's, oh, that's awesome, that's perfect, right, but what about when it's above that, right, unexpected?
Starting point is 01:03:25 It's king time, you know, not, it's above that, right? Unexpected. It's king time, you know, not my sliver king. It's like, that's the kingdom. That's capital G time, man. You know, and so king time is what's happening. And when you tell a clock, there's 12 demarcation points and there's 12 ancestral tenants. What's stronger than time are principles. Before time, principles. After time, principles. Time is actually not what we
Starting point is 01:03:48 think it is. Time is very manipulative. I can do things very different with time than you can do with time. I'm not saying that one's better than the other actually I am saying one's better than the other but I don't know you well enough so I take it back. I'll just say we- Are you Dr. Strange? You can fucking stop time and move it back? When you go on a Dr. Strange, you keep fucking stop time and move it back. When you go on a vacation, you know how it feels that things might go fast. And when you do the opposite of that things might seem really slow. And then my boys and I, we were doing we
Starting point is 01:04:17 do Wednesday, what's the Wednesday workout called boys? grit day. Wednesday is grit day. There's no structure to it. Today you're going to pay a barbarian price. A barbarian is double-fisting bad laxes, running up the mountain to no end, to no end, period, to full-stend their potential to no end. And so Grit Day reminds us of that. We're doing Grit Day, carrying and holding a bunch of stuff,
Starting point is 01:04:41 like weighted vest and mace or something. And then we see some technology guys inside the What we call the flex space. It's an open garage and I say hey technology guys Can you walk with us because we don't stop because we're working out what my boys don't know is I'm not working out with them I'm bonding with them. You know, I'm bonding with them Okay, I'm working out too guys. I'm working out to you think you're working out. And then these guys, hey, walk with us. Walk with us, guys. Most people don't know how to walk and talk. Just walk. Just walk as I talk. If you don't mind, just listen. We want to do a Mario Kart setup. My wife, she doesn't get to do a lot of the fun container stuff with us anymore. I think she would enjoy getting on a steering wheel and emerging
Starting point is 01:05:22 experience. Huge screen. Combining the virtual world with the real world, having our me's look like our respective self, mom, dad, striker, rad, he calls himself four in though, so like just fucking make it striker, strikes, please. And so we're actually next to each other every day at six o'clock, we can see each other on the track, we can attack each other, the virtual world and the real world overlaid. And so that's what I imagined.
Starting point is 01:05:50 Could you guys make that for us? Could you make that for us? As we're walking, we're working out and bonding. And then how much time do you think it took? How much time did it take my time to build that setup? I don't know. Just guess. Any number. A day. Of my time, though. I don't know. Just guess any number. A day.
Starting point is 01:06:08 Of my time though. Well I just walked you through it. So the walk was how long it took. But that's not really true because I was bonding with my boys. I was working out, we never stopped. And so any extra time that it took to build that
Starting point is 01:06:24 it took zero extra time, zero extra time. And so, in the fun box, she plays in every day with us. Every, and we're, and she can't wait to play, they can't wait to play. Every day, bro. And so what we do differently with our time, many, we can do many things. I call it passive profit centers.
Starting point is 01:06:45 So like I wear weighted vests all the time. It's in the car and I took it off because I didn't want to look like an idiot, you know, of meeting you, which I guess I did take in a piss. That was perfect. That was quite ancestral, meeting you at the gate where you're taking a leak. That was the first thing I do when I get home sometimes
Starting point is 01:07:00 just from the drive in Texas. Nothing wrong with that. So whenever we're doing something, when I'm having a meeting, which I don't sit down and have a meeting, I'm wearing the vest and I don't spend any time in the gym anymore. So my passive profit center is my skeleton.
Starting point is 01:07:15 I have a 40 pound vest, an 80 pound vest, and 120 pound vest. And then Mesa's loaded up from 25 to 60. Ooh, buddy. So I get a walk with one of those wherever I go. And so, but it's no extra effort. I was already going there, you know? And so passive profit centers, what we do with our time,
Starting point is 01:07:33 time works different is what I'm saying. And so my hope and goal really is that the ancestral tenants, it fits. King time, there's 12 of them. What's stronger than time or principles came before that will remain after time. Time is not actually what we think it is. It works different for different people.
Starting point is 01:07:55 Time is almost like a daughter from God, an offspring from God. If God made the sun and if God has the moon, mother moon or something, mother earth. And time is like one of those other things. And so, and we can, it's different for everybody. Everything that you do within your entire existence is done within the realm of time. And who's in control of it? Ultimately, absolute, who's in control of that? Ultimately, absolute, who's in control of that?
Starting point is 01:08:26 That's you, right? And so indivisible we are from time, so we're called human beings. We could be called time. Loyalty to time. It's kind of important to be loyal to lower swords. You know, that's hard when we can't be loyal to our own time.
Starting point is 01:08:44 And so King times, like, dude, that was perfect? that's hard when we can't be loyal to our own time. And so King Time's like, dude, that was perfect, but that was better than perfect. Bonus score, lock it the fuck, lock it down. And so the demarcation points with King Time, K-Y-N-G-T-Y-E-B-E, instead of it reflecting the hour demarcation, which of course it can do that. It's one of the tenets, the 12 tenets. Sleep, eat, move, shield, connect, cold, sun, fight, bond, evolve, adventure, slash fun.
Starting point is 01:09:21 The very top is spirit. And so before I had nine, I don't know why I had nine. The very top is spirit. So before I had nine, I don't know why I had nine. One of the best gifts I have is categorizing shit. I can categorize anything. So those nine ancestral tenets made sense. People would ask, what about the spirit? What about...I don't know.
Starting point is 01:09:40 I didn't know. But evolve became the tenth one because I thought that was important, to grow, to get better, to have the right to change my mind. When Rad says, well earlier you said this, well you know what, if I'm really growing, if I really evolve, then I have the right now, I've earned the right to change my mind
Starting point is 01:09:57 whenever I want to change my mind. And if me changing my mind is the better bet, honoring good and true, nobody's hurt worse, everybody wins more, a decision making matrix can guide that pretty easily. So stronger than time are these principles. There's 12 ancestral tenets. It's not liver king time. King time is kingdom time and that's what it is. So I'm proud to say what I tarnished, what I tarnished in the snapshot of time, I did. And I'm barely starting to share what we're really doing. My son, Stryker, is a rap artist.
Starting point is 01:10:40 Give me a minute on Spotify. It was on there earlier. Next time it comes on, I'll be like, hey, can we turn this up just for a second? What I'm doing with my time, I've retired the liver king character to do my higher swords, to do king to my queen, to do father to my boys.
Starting point is 01:10:57 Every Thursday is father, son Thursday. Father, son Thursday. And we get to go do stuff, but you get what you give,uckers all roads bleed through barbarian So you bleed before breakfast? We're gonna do it together and whatever depth at which we bleed that which we sacrifice and pour that blood into That's the rise and the reward. That's what we get to treat ourselves to and so let's measure Let's measure let's see who can you know that. And then let's honor what we said.
Starting point is 01:11:25 And then it kind of tastes better, feels better. Everything seems to be better to do that. So retiring that character to step back in to do higher swords and then Strikers first song, Give Me A Minute is about being still. Stimulus, response, choice in the middle, responsibility. But instead stimulus, response, stimulus responds, stimulus responds, stimulus responds. We respond a lot. Give me a minute is stimulus with everything. Slow the fuck down. Give
Starting point is 01:11:54 me a minute. Slow the fuck down. Choose. Understand. Understand. Respond. You know, out of principle. And so he's allowed me to share a lot of what we're doing now. Yeah, so I don't mind. Okay, that's true. I tarnished the message. Most of that stuff's true. I did lie about taking steroids. It wasn't really plural or multiple. It was really, I should have said, I take steroid and I take one peptide. That's what I should have said. That would have been the truth. And I thought, let me not say that and get more criticism. So I'll say this other thing. And so all that's the truth and everything being tarnished, whoever it tarnished, that's what happened. I hope that they found another guru, you know, to better themselves
Starting point is 01:12:49 because they already needed help in the first place. We all need help in the first place. It doesn't matter what you call the person that you learn from. And so if you call this guy this thing, there's someone else that you should learn from. And there's someone else that can help you make your better life and keep collecting information. You know, and I hope that makes sense because the blueprint of how our ancestors lived for millions of years that shaped our DNA today so that we could become the baddest mammalian predators
Starting point is 01:13:19 that ever lived, the most loving, the most communicative, the most bonding, warm, fire, bliss, beauty, good, true, those things that shaped our DNA, we're no longer doing those things. The modern world we live in, yeah, can we overlay some of these principles, 12 of them, to live a better life, a way better life, you know, and so in a organized way, I just hope you find someone, the better bet is find a better philosophy than the ancestral way. That makes sense. To me that makes sense, that's what shaped us forever.
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Starting point is 01:15:45 Shilajit in with my tea. Test it for yourself. Blackload a Shilajit and remember KKP at checkout. The proof is in the pudding. You know, when I think of these principles, even like fasting and things like that, you can feel it. It's immediate. Wim Hof talks about that. You get in the cold, you know, like, and you battle your way through the holy shit moment and you find stillness and you get out and it shifts your
Starting point is 01:16:05 Neurochemistry and it changes the way you feel and operate for hours sometimes for the rest of the day, right? That's pretty impactful when you think about I'm a natural like the McKenna's brothers talked about that You know, like we're a walking bag of chemicals You know the way the brain works and if we understand these levers that we have within ourselves That we can control ultimately what type of chemicals we're producing, what our experience is, where our emotional state is, and taking that responsibility allows us to have that and what you're providing are tools, right? These are tools that we've known about for many many years and thousands of years and if
Starting point is 01:16:40 we can come back into some sort of harmony and consistency with these things there's not only long-term benefit there's benefit in the act itself. and if we can come back into some sort of harmony and consistency with these things, there's not only long-term benefit, there's benefit in the act itself. Yeah, I would say they're not tools, they're really principles. And I'll give you one example. What you said with cold, not only do you get those immediate
Starting point is 01:16:58 and of course some longer-term benefits, even the upregulation of brown adipose tissue to be more metabolically active. That's something that matters. I used to ask my boys, what did you do today that matters? Stuff that you can stack, build, and not what mattered. I don't need to know about something in the past. It's not gonna matter.
Starting point is 01:17:16 And so there's so many extra benefits there. And then I shared this with my wife. I'm gonna tell, can I tell them? I'm gonna tell them this one. There's 130 of them, this is one of them. Do you ever put, when you get in the cold, where do you go to? How deep do you go? To the chin. To the chin?
Starting point is 01:17:32 Yeah. Do you ever put your brain stem go back like that? Yeah, that one's tough where I tilt back like that and get to the jawline and under the ears before. I don't like letting it go inside my ear holes, but... And if you do that and you're just breathing right at the nostrils, That's a tough one. 98.6 is where we like to operate. And then 32 degree continuous cooling cold plunge,
Starting point is 01:17:54 it says I'm dying. There's no way I'm gonna lock down. I'm gonna vasoconstrict. I gotta conserve every, cause eminent death. And so I'm going to fucking do everything I know how to do. All the vascular tissue, there's, there's so many different things
Starting point is 01:18:14 are now doing what they know how to do. But they haven't done that in a long time, in a long time. And then by the way, you do have to be careful about how you do it. Right, I mean, I'll do, I'll do a breath hold underneath with a spotter right Wim Hof has said always have a spotter He's lost, you know a handful of people that decided to do breath locks underwater by themselves not recommending that but um Yeah with my son there or or my wife, you know doing the breath hold underwater a million dive reflex all that stuff is just hitting Pathways that are really untouched. So check this out, there's a moment where you think
Starting point is 01:18:49 maybe you're getting disoriented and it feels the same every time, start counting backwards from 30 and the minute that you can't fluently do it, get the fuck out, you got whatever the Delta is to zero, plus 15 seconds, safety cushion. So when you're getting out, the reperfusion, the new expansion that it hasn't seen before because it's never been so constricted, it's never done this before either. And so super highway, you can have a super highway, something that matters.
Starting point is 01:19:21 Eating notes to tail is information, more information, diverse information. Notes to tail in the garden, that's seasonal, local information from the sun, you know, information from the earth, information from spirit and energy. If we can take in a variety of information and you have a superhighway, getting cold is fucking awesome. And so cold is one of the tenets, but it's really thermal pressures. Heat or cold, you know, any thermal pressure are the things. So I think part of what you're saying is there's actually utility, not just forever, but like do it. You feel good right now with a lot of these things.
Starting point is 01:20:02 Some of these other things, it depends on what you're dealing with, it might take you some time. It's nice to do most of these things. If you think you're paying a huge price for one of the, oh, I'm not going to do that because it's cold out and I don't like to walk out in the cold. You don't have to do that one. You can skip that one. There's eight other tenants, you know. So you see the benefits now. In principle, stack compound, better life, man. More love, more understanding. So the king time clock, 12 tenants, Kingsbury. Like, oh, this lines up.
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Starting point is 01:20:48 Wow, it's gorgeous. Yeah. And you can't see it right now, but engraved on the inside it says, all roads bleed, really tiny. All roads bleed dot dot dot through barbarian. And on its reciprocal side, it kind of balances it and says our core values, strength, courage, mastery, honor, above all else, loyalty, just really small. And so whenever this was kind of developed,
Starting point is 01:21:15 I thought, okay, I could die now. I could die for a little bit, you know, because of the liver king. But the message matters. Time, principles, what's stronger than it, aligning them together and being able to show like with utility. I have a path that can really, I believe, help. Yeah. What, I have a question for you and it came up in the pot in the came up in the film where you talked about the carnivore movement and things like that.
Starting point is 01:21:49 And I was gung ho in ketosis when I retired from fighting because it just helped my brain work again. It was one of the things alongside plant medicines and hyperbaric oxygen that really reshaped and retuned my brain after all the damage it had taken from college football, Pop Warner, and then of course in fighting. And, uh, you know, at a certain point I was like, you know, I fucking love carbohydrates, like berries and other goodies and sourdough bread that's homemade and all the fun stuff.
Starting point is 01:22:16 Um, and I have more balance, but now, you know, at least once a year, probably twice a year, I'll do some form of a longer form fast. Sometimes we'll stay in ketosis for two or three weeks just to get that metabolic reset. But what came up for me in that was I noticed your love for the plants and I noticed the way the verbiage around the mother and the sacredness of, you know, when you harvested that beautiful bull. At what point did you rebuild or remember your connection to spirit, to God? Jared Goetz said to go to Clarivita, just surrender and go, and go.
Starting point is 01:22:55 And I said okay, and I went, and I met my Spirit, and came back with my spirit, with my soul, and discerned the ego from my soul. And I like the soul version of me. To be able to be so free to share everything, everything, shitting laying down is how I shit. I do enemas every day. I asked Ben Greenfield, I asked him for the recipe on Thanksgiving. Dude, I thought I was dying. I kind of was. The CT scan said it. And I said, Ben, what's the coffee enema recipe? And he responds best things giving greeting ever
Starting point is 01:23:46 And I only ask him for stuff when I need them and I haven't been I haven't even said thank you So I need to honor him better But to be so free to share all of those things anything Because the trajectory of he lied those things, anything, because the trajectory of He Lied set me on a new trajectory. Clare Vida introduced me to my spirit and then my spirit introduced me to the things that really matter like the trees and the birds and all that kind of stuff. Is Clare Vida an ayahuasca retreat center?
Starting point is 01:24:22 No, not ayahuasca. Not ayahuasca retreat center? No. Not ayahuasca. Not ayahuasca. It's a retreat center. And I just would prefer to not say bone. Yeah, yeah, that's it. No, I get that. The reason I said ayahuasca is due to the fact that for me, I mean, I've got a laundry list of my sacroiliac passport
Starting point is 01:24:43 is long. So everybody likes to use that for their pissing contest here in Austin. But, um, of all the plant medicine journeys that I've had, psilocybin really connected me to my spirit and showed me a level of dimension beyond everyday waking state reality. But ayahuasca was the one that tied me to Pachamal, that tied me to Mother Earth in a way where I was like, wow, that tied me to Pachamal, that tied me to Mother Earth in a way where I was like, wow, you're alive, you're thinking, you're a being like me, and you're a fucking huge, grand, beautiful being that holds us all. And so that to me was my doorway back into my remembrance of Mother Nature and how to
Starting point is 01:25:17 work with it and fueled us wanting to have a farm and grow our own food and be in connection and harmony with that, change the way that I hunt and change the way that I harvest and the prayers that are made and I've been able to include my kids in those as well, just as you include your boys. So I have big respect for those two in particular, but especially I have for that level
Starting point is 01:25:39 of reconnection to the earth. So it starts and then like I'm on my hands and knees in the garden. If it's growing in my garden I eat all of it and I can't swallow it because my gut doesn't work the right way so I chew the fuck out of it. I basically juice it in my mouth and on your hands and knees all the fibers forward then you got to just swallow the back. It becomes easy. It becomes easy to do it.
Starting point is 01:26:08 And then I don't actually spit it out. I put it in my hand, and then I compost it around whatever seems to be like there's some plants that are burning. It's like they're alive and they're on fire. And they're almost screaming for help. And then you can recover a lot. You can't do it all at once, but then I'll just spend a minute. Not only will I take like the dying pieces off.
Starting point is 01:26:33 Okay, these are the dying pieces. Now these pieces. Right, sit still, she's just gonna land on you. We got her cockatiel going to say hi. So like these not healthy pieces that were gonna fall off anyways. I'm like, OK, I'll eat that stuff. And I'm going to end up spitting a lot of the cardboard. So I used to throw it out of the garden.
Starting point is 01:26:53 Oh, trash out of the garden. And now I'll just shred it. It's been a lot. I'll use it as compost for the sick one. And then I'll just kind of do a little thing. They're like, dude, I have fist bump? I feel good about that? And now I know, like of do a little thing. And they're like, dude, I have fist bump? I feel good about that? And now I know, like when I see rosemary,
Starting point is 01:27:09 I know rosemary. Like really? Or like marigold flower or English thyme? And not all these things are meant to go through the oral cavity. Some of them you could just boom, boom, boom, smell it in your lungs, diffuse through your bloodstream, smoke, fire, real wisdom from outside,
Starting point is 01:27:31 smell it, information. Your body knows how to parse out the stuff that's valuable and stuff that isn't. Some of it's valuable. So to be on my hands and knees, to have the relationship that I have in there because of I know what we are, I know how connected we are, and to be grateful my hands and knees, to have the relationship that I have in there because I know what we are and how connected we are and to be grateful for it.
Starting point is 01:27:49 We just had a lot of rain, a lot of rain, a lot of branches are down and when I see branches are down, a lot of times like that was probably a sick branch anyways, but sometimes it's not a sick branch. Sometimes it's like a catastrophic blow or something really, really bad. I can feel that we take all of their bones and we put it over in a pile. We don't even burn in the burn pile. They see, I got a sense of like, this is how they treat things that are important like really sacred to us and now when like that happens I see the branch and I'll start to get everything together but I like look at the this big one that fell off
Starting point is 01:28:35 and I try to find okay where'd it come from and I'm like I look at it and you can feel the hurt how fresh and shattered and moist, like that wasn't meant to go. That one hurt, man. And so I'm like there with the branch. And then I go over to the tree and I'm like, I don't even say anything. I just kind of feel something.
Starting point is 01:28:58 And I usually will then take it in for a fire. And then those ashes, I return back to the base of the tree You know, there's just a good feeling and there's a feeling After getting plugged into that and being grateful acknowledging and understanding it Um, I just told my wife like other gifts that you get I was able to communicate with a frog yesterday There's a frog that's outside and I moved really slow to get right next to it. I'm right next to it and you can see its eye.
Starting point is 01:29:30 If I move, the eye moves, so it's looking at me, right? And I got music on this side of me, and so the frog's on this side, and so the music's going through us, the same vibration. And so if it's like this song. going through us the same vibration and so if it's like this song like whatever the beat is I'm doing and and I'm over here and the frog is looking over here it's feeling the same vibration we're communicating something neither of us know what you know but an understanding that we never had before. That's a pretty cool feeling.
Starting point is 01:30:08 After being introduced to this stuff, I became a dog whisperer, is what they call it. But I understand my dogs and your dog, you know, I just, I wanna share share. I want to share. And the last part might make it seem like I don't have my head on right. That's fine too. That's fine too because it feels good and I usually do it in private anyways. You don't get to see that part. The world's hurting. We're hurting, entertained, we're very entertained,
Starting point is 01:30:45 distracted, not creating value, wanting a better life, saying that we're striving, but really knowing that we're not, really hurting, some of us so much so that we think maybe the world might be better without us. We're just not really headed in the right direction and most of us know it. And there's, I think that there's a better bet.
Starting point is 01:31:13 The way that we lived for millions of years, the things that are free, accessible to everybody we could do them right now, 12 ancestral tenants, grounded in a framework. There's no profitability except for you. That's the message. A supplement if you have a failing heart or brain or bone marrow or your pancreas isn't working right. Like supports like is actually grounded in something more sacred and more honorable. But science even validates some of it. These things we should be eating that way. We
Starting point is 01:31:55 should get it from the butcher, get it from the farmers market. If you don't do that you can supplement with it. One of my companies will profit money wise and that value exchange will be used overwhelmingly to spread the message. Man, I really wanted to kind of talk about like the gross inaccuracies, the mistruths about the movie. My family deserves better. Our family deserves better. Shame on you. Shame on the network. Shame on us for rewarding them.
Starting point is 01:32:33 You know, consequences. You thought you would attack a guy that's like a cave idiot? There would be no consequence. And I never wish harm upon anybody. My queen wants to take their knees out and Mercifuls like you don't have to go any further Just try to help make them good and true. How could you help them make good and true and everybody just profit more off of prospectively being master builders of our own lives not reacting to somebody else making a reacting video
Starting point is 01:33:11 You know, but to master build our lives with principles, there's a better life to live without consequence. It's not okay. The network doing this is not okay. The director who made it, not okay. We should boycott the movies. There should be consequence. The more plates, more dates guy, unsubscribe to him and the vigorous other guy, and then everyone who unsubscribes every single one, the millions, I'm gonna donate the exact amount
Starting point is 01:33:29 to a charity that does good. And I wanna, I have a present for Joe Rogan I've been trying to give him. I didn't know the right time to give it to him. Do you know John Wick 4? The pit viper? I got a collector's piece that's like 001 or one of the first ones. From Tarrant Tactical?
Starting point is 01:33:52 Yeah. Yeah. It's a bad gun. Oh, yeah. Do you do the sand viper also? I don't know which one I've shot with, but I got one of my buddies, Justin Rezvani, has buddies with Taron and those guys and he will cough up the big the high dollar amount for some of their gear and I've shot with those. For
Starting point is 01:34:10 Terrans? Yeah it's almost like a automatic for you know like you can just go as fast that trigger is it's happy. The bed in the sand I got the sand after the eye injury but those guns are so... Staccato was always my favorite. Oh, you can't beat staccato. And they're here. They're like in Austin or something. Oh, cool.
Starting point is 01:34:30 You can't beat staccato. Ferrari, pit viper, new fucking level. So I got this collector's... What are you gonna get Joe to say thank you, you know? And so there was like a two year waiting list. And we made it and there's this really cool case they made it in. And I've been waiting to figure out,
Starting point is 01:34:52 cause I'm not invited. And I would love to be invited to give that to him. Not really for that reason, but truth is it's in the corner of my vault. And I would love to be able to get it out of there because his face is on top of it. And just looking at me every day. He's just looking at me. Maybe you could put in a word for me. Yeah, brother. You know him, right? Yeah, I've been on his
Starting point is 01:35:17 podcast a couple of times. We haven't spoken in a while. But um, well, maybe he'll see this video Yeah, it may be a small groundswell will say That he really is not a bad guy. He's an okay guy He might have some interesting things that you might want to parse out and go deep with the see if he's really full of shit Because that's what he's asking can you Can Liver King go on your podcast and it'd be called Joe Rogan Tries to See if He's Full of Shit About Anything? Anything. Anything. Absolutely anything. And then if you like, you can blood test me, hair test me, or anything
Starting point is 01:35:58 like that too. That would probably be a good podcast. But more than anything, like I just know, in principle, he does most of the tenants. He does most of the tenants. A tenant was never to sign your butthole. I don't know who came up with that one. He said that he thought that was a tenant, but that's not one. He actually does most of them, and he talks about liver all the time. And so, you know, for somebody who's saying the message with a different name and a different style, you know, a king, a true king never fights
Starting point is 01:36:33 with another man. You know, our fighter archetype, our warrior, we did that. And there's a time and place out of principle to do it. But then once you're not doing that, alliances are built and we fight alliances out of principle. And so unbeknownst to Joe, he's been a great alliance because he does all those things. Oh, I do what Joe does. That's awesome. That's great. Yeah. I actually, I'm not saying it like I meant it because I'm thinking something else, but the truth is I'm thinking double down on it. Yeah, so I hope there's a small groundswell because I wanted to come here because other people asked me to come
Starting point is 01:37:16 on some really big shows, and we've done those really big shows, and you know what you did is you also edited out almost all of it, all of it. So if it's okay, I'll probably go to like a real King that I've looked up to and how it turns out he's close. He's got a beautiful ranch and family. I left you a message. Hey brother, brother, Buffalo, brother bear, brother bear, man, is there any, could you have me on your
Starting point is 01:37:45 podcast? You know, oh, I didn't even leave it. I deleted all my contacts. So I left it for someone, my number two, Adam Trank. He's my number two. He's about to be my number three, because he made a bad decision. Very bad decision recently. But then I, so I left the message for Adam. Hey, Adam, can you get in touch with Kyle? I don't have his contact information Could you send this to him and I just want to say thank you for believing in me when we message back and forth It's not seemed felt like you believed in me 100% brother and then you had me on your podcast to be able to Say the truth and if there's any other truth that you think might be interesting
Starting point is 01:38:24 I'm happy to talk about it. No it's been awesome brother I want to get to show you guys the land here and hopefully introduce you to my family. Okay so I always talk like framework in life like what's the better bet because if there's a plan okay but be flexible what's the better bet and when you have everything to look forward to is a better bet. You have all this on the horizon. I forgot what we're about to do and I've seen a taste of what it looks like and I can't wait to now go get out of this box and immerse into this playground man. This wonderful adventure man.
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Starting point is 01:40:19 off and always free shipping. Can I close with this very small prayer? Absolutely brother. This wonderful adventure that we call life on earth, thank you God for right now. Thank you almighty Father, Son. Thank you your majesty mother moon, your majesty mother earth. The sun you warm us, the light for our might, for our fight. The night, the moon, the rest, the recovered, let's sleep.
Starting point is 01:40:47 Mother Earth, Camasuticus, our clay, we can pray what matters. We come from you, we'll return to you. When for our breath, that breath, every breath thereafter, the gentle breeze. Water, thank you for my blood. Thank you for the reflection that we see in you, or mostly you. Thank you God for creating us, for our existence.
Starting point is 01:41:13 Thank you to all of the elements that conspire in the cosmos that give us this beautiful adventure that is life, this podcast today. I've asked you to show me what I need to see today, reveal to me what I need to feel to me today, to seal it into me with actual action, with this kind of action, the expression, nothing that's planned, nothing that's planned, but just a walk in your light. Thank you, God, for the discernment to do
Starting point is 01:41:36 just what matters, nothing that doesn't, to be profitable with time, to bridge the gap, to delta to perfect, and to deliver what happened here today, King time, unexpected grace from Kyle to have me in his house to allow a guy talk the way that he talks. Thank you for your grace for allowing me to be here, for welcoming my family that's here. And we ask that you continue to show us more today, reveal to us more, seal it into us, expression with action. I would normally say thank you to my family and all this other stuff.
Starting point is 01:42:10 I'm not going to do that because we're finishing the podcast. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Amen. Amen. Is it okay if we ask my wife if there's anything that we didn't cover? Fuck yeah. Is there anything we didn't cover. Fuck yeah. Is there anything we didn't cover? No, like, I didn't want to cover that. The what?
Starting point is 01:42:30 You know, the interest disaster, quote, unquote, and that it was our stewardship that's right. It should be something that right. Yeah. Because it was a disaster. Well, because I made it public. Because people asked me. I didn't know that it was a thing. And I made it public, because people asked me, I didn't know that it was a thing, and I made it public. I made that choice. She supported me
Starting point is 01:42:52 through that choice. She feels because of who I am and because of how I actually treat people that it wasn't fair, and I told her that it's fine. It's one of the greatest gifts that I've ever had is to be called out like that. You can't ask for that kind of resistance, that kind of emotional resistance. You normally wouldn't ask for it, but the gift of being able to have it, to navigate through it. And now you're going to call me a liar? I'm going to go ahead and just be so free that I can share with you anything and everything out in the open all of the time I brought a growth hormone here I was gonna do it if it became time to do
Starting point is 01:43:33 it because I have a bunch of injuries I would just do it on on here if I'm in the street doing apocalypto and it's time and somebody pulls up to me and they're talking, my alarm goes off, growth hormone. Yeah. And to be that free, I wouldn't have had that gift if it weren't for the evil wannabe, you know, let's destroy somebody, let's, and that kind of resistance, you know, the greater the fallback, you know, the greater the fallback, you know, the greater the comeback, the depth at which you go into something, but go all the way through it, all that blood, all
Starting point is 01:44:10 the sacrifice, own all of it, the depth, you got to build that back up and be free. So I can be grateful for that. She wants to really hammer that home. For years, when you started Liver King, you were just on testosterone cream and growth hormone. She wants to make that really clear. I don't feel like that needs to be made really clear. I think we kind of said some of that. I believe that's sufficient don't you? Okay okay. Yeah we're good and if there's any look I'm gonna I'm gonna make my way to Yall's ranch so I can't wait to come visit you guys. We'll do another one. This has been fantastic.
Starting point is 01:44:46 Can we do a few quick things? Yeah, brother. I say, yeah, yeah, boy. My family already knows what to do. I don't think Derrick does, but when I say, yeah, yeah, boy, afterwards we all say it back, okay? All right, and we're gonna do three of them. That's a triple crown.
Starting point is 01:45:02 That means like you did good. And then after that, we're gonna do three of them. That's a triple crown. That means like you did good. And then after that, we're gonna do closing ceremony. I'll do liver King and you call it whatever you call yourself and they'll do it. Then Derek will go last. Well, we might have to do it twice, but let's do it right now. Yeah, yeah boy.
Starting point is 01:45:18 Yeah, yeah boy. Yeah, yeah boy. Yeah, yeah boy. Yeah, yeah boy. Yeah, yeah boy. Liver King, King's Boo. Rapper Barbarian. Okay, that's a wrap, brother.
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