Kyle Kingsbury Podcast - #412 The Liver King Story - Finding The Truth
Episode Date: June 27, 2025In this episode, we are welcoming, Brian Johnson, known as the Liver King. We discuss Brian's visit to the host's property, highlighting Brian's appreciation for the host's home, dojo, and lifestyle. ...The podcast explores Brian's dedication to his family and personal growth. Brian shares his thoughts on personas and public figures, including his own 'Liver King' character, and discusses his journey of trying to clear his name following a controversial Netflix documentary. The discussion extends to rites of passage, the importance of ancestral living, and the backlash Brian received regarding his use of performance-enhancing drugs. Brian emphasizes the principles of ancestral living, including diet, physical challenges, and spiritual growth. He candidly addresses his use of testosterone and growth hormone, the accusations against him, and the unfair portrayal in the documentary. The podcast also touches on themes like forgiveness, devotion to family, and the complexities of public perception. Kyle and Brian both share their mutual admiration for natural wellness practices and discuss future collaborations. Connect with Liver King here: Instagram Liver King Website Barbarian Foundation Our Sponsors: Let’s level up your nicotine routine with Lucy. Go to Lucy.co/KKP and use promo code (KKP) to get 20% off your first order. Lucy offers FREE SHIPPING and has a 30-day refund policy if you change your mind. Looking for Shilajit? Head over to blacklotusshilajit.com and enter code KKP to receive 15% off your orderD EARN in gold and silver. Click link below for a great discount! monetary-metals.com/kkp Get back to nature. Go to EarthRunners.com and use the code KKP at checkout for 10% off. Beam is giving you up to 30% off for a limited time. Just head to shopbeam.com/KKP and use code KKP at checkout. Connect with Kyle: I'm back on Instagram, come say hey @kylekingsbu Twitter: @kingsbu Fit For Service Academy App: Fit For Service App Our Farm Initiative: @gardenersofeden.earth Odysee: odysee.com/@KyleKingsburypod Youtube: Kyle Kingbury Podcast Kyle's Website: www.kingsbu.com - Gardeners of Eden site If you enjoyed this podcast, please subscribe & leave a 5-star review with your thoughts!
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Welcome to today's podcast.
We have pretty much the fucking man of the hour,
as far as I'm concerned, the liver king, Brian Johnson.
This podcast was recorded last Friday,
I believe June 20th.
Brian Johnson came out with his entire family.
He brought his amazing wife, the liver queen.
He brought his two sons, Striker and Rad.
And I got to have just a phenomenal day with them.
Showed them the land, showed them the house
and the property, showed them the dojo.
He really liked the Fuji mats and everything we've got going on in there. He could tell
it was my little playground that I had put some money behind and really use and love
and how much the kids love it too. He loved the yoga hammock. He loves so much of the
stuff that we're doing here. And Brian is a very generous human. He's a family man.
He's somebody who's clearly dedicated to the betterment of himself as a father
and a husband. And it's something I really appreciated. And it's something I could feel
around his family. Seeing everything that's happened in the last six, seven days has been
mind blowing to me. And as you listen to this podcast, you'll see perhaps glimmers of some of
this stuff. You know, he talks about Joe Rogan on the podcast, but I've had several guests talk to me about Joe Rogan on the podcast.
Either they think because of my proximity to him that maybe I can get them on.
I don't know. So that wasn't super uncommon. Obviously,
as we watch Instagram now,
it seems that there is a little bit more of the attraction to Joe than I
realized. And you know, that's hard to spot. It was hard to spot any, it's hard to
spot any type of mental things going on because I've been around people who have a persona,
right? You think of pro wrestlers, you think of guys like that. Two close friends of mine, JP
Sears. JP Sears is the comedian. And when he's in comedian mode, he's JP Sears, the comedian. And
when he's not, and he's grounded and he's himself, that's just a different version of him. And they're both great, right? So I don't think
anything of it. If JP is in JP mode, it just, there he is. Troy Casey, I was just hanging out
with a certified health nut. You know, Troy, on this last podcast we did together, talked about
the birth of the persona, certified health nut, and one of his journeys down in the Amazon.
And, you know, that really is a caricature, right? Of himself,
but it is a version of himself.
And it's something that I think a lot of people resonate with.
Some people are like, what the hell do this guy's drinking urine and they don't
get it. But you know,
he's been a friend of mine and somebody that's been an advocate for health and
alternative medicine for decades now.
And somebody I really look up to and care about. And you know,
when Troy is the certified health nut being wild and crazy, that's just him and his persona. So there were parts of
this podcast where I really just figured, Oh, I'm talking to liver King right now. Liver
King's in the persona. You know, the first 30 minutes we're talking about barbarian and
super barbarian and apocalypto. And you can kind of see me going like, well, these are
workouts, right? And he's like, no, these are rites of passage.
And he dives into rite of passage and there's no one really steering the ship.
We did this podcast in hopes of him getting to clear his name in some way,
you know, and just to get to tell his story realistically.
He had done a Netflix documentary that is now out and you know, they film as in
any documentary they film for 100 hours and they
release one hour right if a if a book becomes a movie you're going to lose 90% of the book that's
just part and parcel of it but in talking to him I could see that you know he really felt wronged
from the director and from the movie itself and from people that really built a name for themselves
off of his back. Derek from More Place More Dates in particular. And I'm not a fan of that.
I'm not a fan of people that do that.
I talk about the side of the food science or food scientists,
the whatever, Cybabe who didn't like the food babe. I've loved the food, babe.
She's great. Like, what are you talking about? She's, she's,
she's been somebody that I've looked up to for a while. All this aside,
the podcast jumps around, right?
I didn't get to give it the arc of the story that I wanted it to.
I wanted to tell Brian's life story the way he was hoping to get through in the documentary.
And it is still my hope that I can do that.
I want to do that. I'm happy to drive out to see Brian and his family at Liver King Ranch
and give this podcast what he hoped this one would.
I don't think this one was that, you know? I just, I don't.
I don't think that we got to give the full arc to the podcast that I was hoping for, but you could clearly see that
Brian is emotionally charged, you know, he is emotionally charged because of the
fact that it didn't paint his family in, in, in the light that he hoped it did.
And it certainly didn't paint him in the light that he hoped the documentary would.
And there's, there's deeper stuff there, you know, something that kept
coming up for me and something I'd love to communicate to Brian, but he's hard to reach
right now, is teaching from Paul Selig. You know, Paul Selig has been a friend of mine and somebody
I've looked up to. If you know Paul, you know his background. If you don't, I'll just say that he
brings forth spiritual context that is very practical. And one of the things that kept coming
up for me in the podcast
that didn't relate was just the fact that anyone you dam dams
you right back.
Anytime there's a part of you holding someone in the cave or
in shadow, there's a piece of you there with them, right?
Like you're not a complete person in your fullness.
If you're holding someone else down, if you are, it really
just points to forgiveness.
The forgiveness has nothing to do with someone else. It has
everything to do with yourself, right? And this is, trust me, I
haven't been perfect about this. This is shit that I've really
had to work on. And that's why these lessons I'm reminded of as
I hear Brian go through this podcast, and as I see where
he's been at, you know, mentally on Instagram and things of that
nature. And I just want to say, dude, Brian, I love you. You have
my full support.
I love your family.
They are fucking awesome.
Barbara is awesome.
Striker is awesome.
Rad is awesome.
You guys have built a fucking amazing thing
at a liver King ranch.
You've built an amazing company.
You know, to call this guy a snake oil salesman
is ridiculous.
What's he selling?
Sunlight, cold therapy.
What's snake oil about the ancestral tenants?
What's snake oil about liver, right? Yes, he lied. But to call the guy the liar king and say he's
a snake oil salesman, it doesn't sit well with me. And yes, I understand why people are pissed off.
He's got his reasoning. And he says that on the podcast. But I just want you to know, Brian,
like I've got your back, buddy. I love you. I have resources for you. You know, I've seen a lot of
people go through really challenging times of their life.
You might call it the dark night of the soul. You might call it some type of manic phase, whatever the fuck you want to label it.
It doesn't really matter. I have resources for you. I'd love to talk with you.
And I'd love to do this again down the road where we can actually make this your life story and make this something that really grabs people.
And yeah, this is a podcast.
There's gonna be ads in it.
There's gonna be everything else there is in the podcast.
I'm sure I'll get a lot of comments
and people on my ass about having this podcast out,
but you know, this is what they wanted to do.
And timing is of the essence.
There's nothing like right now.
So without further ado,
my brother, Brian, the liver King Johnson.
All right, I gotta hear, you brother, Brian, the liver King Johnson. All right.
I got to hear you.
You got, you got all these names for things.
I've been following you for a while, but I'm not privy to the, the,
the titles of the workouts.
I imagine from your CrossFit days with the wads and things like that, that
you're accustomed to naming bad-ass workouts.
Is that what we're talking about?
When you named like the barbarian, the super barbarian, things like that.
We weren't really talking about when you name like the barbarian, the super barbarian, things like that? Oh, we weren't really talking about it.
I was saying that I needed Visine really bad because I did apocalypto a couple days ago.
My eyes were destroyed.
I haven't slept.
I had to stay up that night.
And then yesterday it was 4.30 and I thought that we had a conversation.
She said that she was going to me up at seven, at seven,
at 7.45, we're leaving at eight.
Like, okay, I'll just throw myself into the car.
So no sleep upon more no sleep after apocalypto,
having the brain stem fried,
oh, heat stroke, mega dehydrated.
Yeah, like chills, no more sweat can come out.
Well, that's what you got,
you gotta break down what apocalypto is. Well, that's what you got. You gotta break down what
apocalypto is. And so that's that's actually what we're
talking about was Visine and and so I got my Visine. That's
like Tarantino. Here's here's the how the story goes.
Apocalypto is really special. Barbarian is most special.
Barbarian is a rite of passage, you know, modern world. We
don't really do that. We do bar mitzvahs and we do happy birthday 15, 16. You can have a car you
didn't really fucking earn if you have the money or have this other thing or
yeah you're a man now. We say these things and but like nothing we did
really nothing to forge them into what the world's gonna expect of them really
and we celebrate it but every primitive culture tribe
has a rite of passage, you know?
Something of real utility, some demarcation point
where they actually have to go and do something
of such principle that on the other end,
they come back and they're changed.
They left, they left by themselves.
Barbarian, oh my my god it's turned into a
little bit of a joke and I hate I hate saying this but I you asked can I say it?
mm-hmm if I'm like belaboring a point say move the fuck on because I can
belabor points bro okay so what ends up happening and is can my queen record
this whole thing also? Queen will you just hit record on your phone and then and then go ahead and just leave it like don't hold it
You know what I mean?
Okay, good. And and so every primitive culture tribe had that and
You know, even the machi Ganga they throw them in the Jaguar fucking jungle for three months
You're 15 go by yourself Go by yourself for three months. You're 15, go by yourself.
Go by yourself for three months.
But you know, it's really not that scary
because they did what they needed to do as dads
to prepare them to do the rite of passage.
So it's scary to us, but it's not really not scary to them.
To them, they know it's the demarcation point.
I get to go do this conquest. I get to look forward to, now I come back, new status, new value, new respect,
self-respect. Maybe I make something different, you know, because I didn't really get that
before. But this is the, so no one's really scared. They're kind of looking forward to
it. The Machiganga do that. The Huds do it, the Maasai. Do you know like 12 to 15 at 12?
And I'm thinking when my boys are 12, 13, 14, 15 on a lion hunt?
And that sounds scary to us, you know.
To them it wasn't really that scary because they were ready.
Dads did what was required of them to teach in principle how to be of utility.
You know, how to actually provide.
How to actually do that.
How to actually protect what a man's biological imperative actually is, irrespective of the
morality of good, bad, get it, fuck off.
Right and wrong.
Yeah.
The imperative of man, if you lock that shit down,
and you kind of did as our ancestors did it, we'll call it a right of passage.
We readied you so you're really not scared.
You can't wait to go on the fucking lion hunt.
Maybe you wear the tooth or maybe you'll die.
But we're going to have eight of you, a lot of you little kids,
because most of you are going to die in childbirth anyways,
you know, or for something else. And so if I have a bunch of you, you know, some of you are going to die in childbirth anyways, or for something else.
So if I have a bunch of you, some of you will live.
So if one of you goes, it's kind of par for the course.
So you're looking forward to it, party, party.
Hopefully you come back, you got a good story to tell.
And you're a man, and you come back.
When you come back like that, you went off on a test.
That's what Barbarian is.
It's a rite of passage, a modern day rite of passage
because our ancestors had real ones, real ones.
And today we don't have it.
We have a bar mitzvah.
We cake dance.
You're a man now.
And so, you know, the world actually has wolves in them.
In many worlds.
The world has wolves in them. In them, in many worlds. The world has wolves.
And what's required of you, I didn't give it to you,
but I'm gonna call you a man,
Baamitzvah, happy sweet 16, we'll make shows out of it.
You know, and romanticize it, we'll decorate it so much,
so the utility of what it actually was,
the wisdom, like why are we hurting so bad today us men?
You know, how come we don't have direction?
How come we don't have fulfillment?
Why don't we have so much family?
How come we think maybe the world would be better
without us?
How can we think that maybe that's an option?
Maybe I take my own life?
Maybe I take my own life and you know'd take my own life and, you know,
write a passage that does something special for you.
Write a passage shows you that you did something.
It was the hardest thing you've ever done.
And if it wasn't, you didn't do it right.
But it was the hardest thing you've ever done, barbarian.
And now that you've come back, you realize you. And now that you've come back you realize
you can do something that you thought you never could. You did it. You actually
did it. You come back and now your name is even different. You're...striker what?
When we do closing ceremony, who are you? Let's just pretend for a second. We're
done with dinner. We're done with dinner. Everything was cool jam.
Hey, we're gonna do the six o'clock fun container today, right guys? Right guys? Six o'clock fun container.
Every single day, six o'clock fun container we do, unless what?
Unless otherwise spoken. So from now until infinity, you don't have to ask what time many things are because that's what's
set crystallize in time for now until infinity unless otherwise spoken. So we're going to go do
that. What was I talking about? Oh, the barbarian and all that. Many times I release myself of like
trying to use my memory, you know, to be present with you right now like this, like this gift,
you know. So many times I'll tell you a story and I'll just say, what was I talking about?
You know, it's the right of passage thing to do that, to come back to.
You have a new name.
You did something you never thought you could ever do.
You didn't, there's no way you thought you could do it.
And it scared the shit out.
Mom didn't even think you could do it.
Mom's even asking the coach.
I wasn't even a coach at the time. I subordinated my highest swords of father and
husband to try liverking. To try to do a thing that I knew that I couldn't fucking do so I'd
have to give so much of myself to it that I compromised higher swords to do it. That's the
tangent. We're not talking about that. The barbarian. These guys are barbarians. You did the hardest
thing that you knew that you couldn't you thought you
couldn't do you have new limits. A new man a new name, the
barbarian status. And there's a symbol that's under under here
there's and there's a symbol. And can we shake hands for a
second? Like a regular handshake, right. Like, a regular handshake, right?
That's a regular handshake.
Do you know Mark and Chris Bell?
Mm-hmm.
So those guys gave me the gift of this.
United.
Yeah.
And then we look like this.
I see your barbarian crown.
You see my crown.
I see you, brother.
Yeah.
And I already did, because a barbarian looks different,
walks different, is different, has principles,
monstrosity, is capable of catastrophe. Absolutely all of that, but the sword is sheathed, right?
Yeah, because a barbarian actually has principles, you know, good and true,
govern all of it. Good and true govern all of it.
Every touch point can be good and true, all of it.
And so in motherfucker pieces of shit, try and unravel the gift
that is my family, like the piece of fucking shit that tried
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The director who will never say his name and deserves what he gets, what we should do to
make him pay is boycott every fucking movie that he's ever made prior and then every movie
that he's ever going to make.
You all should look up who made Liver King, the movie,
the director, and you should delete whatever you've
downloaded from him.
Because he didn't tell the truth.
Over 100 hours recorded, less than one,
highly curated and edited exemplary through the movies
like this.
I was bullied when I was younger, this is all
true, it was a very tough life. It was my barbarian version, this is why I made
Barbarian, because I would never put my voice through what I went through.
And so I said something like that, yeah I lived a hard life, and now I've
made my fortune cut. That's the movie. All of it, they do like that.
And then like if you didn't cut it,
and now I've made my fortune, my fortune is my family.
Look at my queen, look at her, look at my boys.
Do you see how tan they are?
Bro, rad my fucking Crush City on you on tan competition.
We should do it. I don't know tan competition. We should do a tan.
I don't know about that.
We should at least try.
I don't know about that yet.
I got a good base going right now.
I do know.
How old are you?
43.
You're the gift of...
I'm your elder and I get to say...
How old are you?
16.
Did you have a tan like that at 16?
I did. I was a little sun baby growing up in Northern California. How old are you? 16. Did you have a 10 like that at 16?
I did. I was a little sunbaby growing up in Northern California.
Then this is easy. This is easy.
You definitely won the first one.
Zero one. Zero one.
But I'm going to challenge you. The first one to five wins, okay?
Alright. Alright.
And whoever wins gets to donate $10,000 to a charity of our
choosing. Okay. The winner gets to do it. So the piece of shit that actually made that
movie, we should boycott all of that. And then there's another piece of shit that has
a website. It's like more plates and more of this other thing. We should do a bunch
of dating, probably not really respect women.
We should just dates dates.
And because we're articulate and intelligent
and self-taught in biochemistry,
we can try and do a reaction video,
natty or not, natty or not.
Yes, and you guys are gonna watch it
and you're gonna be entertained
and you're gonna subscribe and I'm gonna get money.
I get paid.
They vote with their dollars.
I get paid to make reaction videos,
not doing good and true, not good and true,
but trying to say Natty or not,
telling the truth, yes or no.
Is he telling the truth, yes or no.
And then the world's gonna pay me for it.
More of the same to not do good and true,
more of the same.
And so we don't have to do it right now,
but in kind trade reciprocity is like,
this is why he's not a barbarian,
is because he's not good and true.
And whoever subscribes to his channel,
which I won't say because he doesn't deserve it,
should unsubscribe.
Every single person that subscribes to his channel should unsubscribe on all platforms.
And for everyone that does the millions, I'm going to donate a dollar to a charity that's
good and true.
And so in kind trade reciprocity, it's like, it's not okay to allow him to not have a
good family. He doesn't have a family. He probably doesn't have any friends. He has a family, has a
mom and dad. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like, you know, what's your wife's name? Natasha. And bear and wolf.
Yeah. You know what family feels like? And it's kind of like, oh, might make life
maybe the best part of it. 100%. And so I think that the piece of shits like the director
of the untold, not the truth movie 100 hours distilled into one not true, not true movie.
And then the guy that made the thing about the email things they deserve to have
Health robust health and awesome families because you know what it feels like and they're never going to get it by doing more
destruction to people
lying to people
To try and my family deserve better than the movie that was made
My family's way better way better than the lives that have been shared.
And so my family's received like that wherever we go.
Who's seen the movie, my family's received
because as that family,
they don't get the same blank canvas as everyone else.
And so that's really why I wanted to do this podcast
is because that's not okay for my family
there's my family's so good and
To be received for less than what they are
You know what the fine that's a gift too
Because it'll just be a little harder for them because they're still gonna be look they're an awesome family
You should see what they get to do
They just had friends over and but did you guys fucking tear it the fuck up?
Dude, if you get that I would love for you to come and hang out to see what we do
I mean, how we do it absolutely to share that with your family
And so they deserve to have that and I'll never have that doing what they're doing
Destroying trying to pick people apart, natty or not.
You know, entertaining, yeah, very articulate, yeah.
What value did I get to make my life better in any way?
Maybe a better understanding of biochemistry, but the principle in making a reaction in
the first place, we react between stimulus and response,
space, choice, right, responsibility, Viktor Frankl.
So stimulus, response, everything.
And so now we're just responding, no stimulus.
Master builders we are, but responding
is how we're spending a lot of time.
And I didn't know all this until I stopped responding
to all that nonsense also, until I retired the Liver King character and actually got back into my High Swords.
And so I deleted all of my contacts and then just put the 12 that mattered.
And when you focus on what matters and you don't respond, but there's a couple of giants
that will make respond videos.
And Natty or not stuff, you know, not good and true.
Not a beautiful family the cosmos will share.
So to have a tectonic shift is the gift of like a hard reset.
No one's saying, you should die.
My queen would like to take their knees out.
The vigorous circus clown in Thailand,
that guy, he unraveled himself. I actually paid him.
He calls himself a coach.
His name is like Sleeve, it's vigorous sleazy.
Sleeve, it's vigorous sleez-vee or something like that.
It's like the, what's that movie, the Lorax,
the thing around the neck, the Thneed.
The Thneed, yeah, T-H-N-E-E-D.
He's as vigorous.
A Thneed is something everyone needs.
He's as vigorous as that thing, but slimier than a snake
because I actually paid him the money.
He didn't refund money. What'd you pay him for? I paid him because I actually paid him the money. He didn't refund money.
What did you pay him for?
I paid him because I needed help because my hormones were like an old person.
You know Denise.
And I have Denise and other people.
Denise Rexroad is a divine actual angel.
Actual angel period period and she deserves all
of the credit, all of the credit and very few people talk and given. She takes care of like
really important people. She takes, I think that you can say she takes care of Joe Rogan.
She takes care of Joe Rogan. Does she take care of you? Mm-hmm. She had been working with Denise for three or four years now.
So you know.
She's phenomenal.
She's incredible.
She's one of the smart.
I mean, you can't call her a nurse.
She's much more than that from not the poo on nurses.
But her education is far beyond that.
She's smarter than most functional medicine doctors
have ever had.
Just to be clear, she's not a nurse.
But that's where she started, though, right?
Oh, I don't know.
How would you word what she is? Well, she's a good practitioner
She has her masters, right? She got a functional medicine. She went through functional medicine
So we're both saying the same thing her credentials are locked the fuck down and an actual gift and she takes care of
Some guy who's in the White House, too. I don't know if that's public so I won't say any further
She just takes care of some important people.
And she's a gift, man.
She knows her shit.
She's great.
I wanna get into all that.
Let me...
Can I just put a button there?
I'll do it in one minute.
I'll do it in one minute.
In one minute.
Timing it, okay.
So the guy that directed the movie,
we should boycott all those.
We should unsubscribe to anything and or related
to the guys that made the long video about the no good,
it's not good and true, not good and true,
and the vigorous loser clown from Thailand,
not good and true, not good and true,
we should unsubscribe.
And I just want to lock this down. For every single one person that unsubscribes, every
one dollar I'm donating to a charity that does good and true. So lock that down, vote
with our dollars, actual change can actually, actually happen. Less good and true now into
the world. More principles get locked down. Barbarians actually become barbarians,
not distracted as much as a wandering man
flailing about that never became the warrior,
the Andrew Tates, I gotta fucking fight,
fight other men, get so good at fighting other men.
I'm a cobra, so fucking good, I can assassinate you
and I got a talking mouthpiece too,
and I'm gonna go on Piers Morgan and do good,
and then that piece of shit, Piers Morgan,
they kind of become friends, you know.
Not good and true, a lot of that stuff happens there too.
For every single dollar goes to a foundation
that does good and true.
More barbarians will be carved out of fucking stone.
After barbarian, there's super barbarian.
After super barbarian, there's hell onian. After super barbarian, there's
hell on earth. It's a thousand bloody knuckle push-ups, three contacts, forehead,
chin, right here. If your knees touch, it doesn't count. And it's
always on hard surfaces from dusk till dawn. One thousand, one thousand of them.
And I dare you to tell me that you did it because I know what your stories are And it's always on hard surfaces from dusk till dawn. 1,000, 1,000 of them.
And I dare you to tell me that you did it,
because I know what your stories are going to be like.
Oh, I could do it.
I could do it.
OK.
Yeah, start trying and see what happens.
Oh, yeah, you're right.
I got to this number, which was actually not respectable at all.
And then I couldn't do it again for a long time,
so I just gave up.
Yeah, cool. And the only reason why I can say that is because he's a great man. He's a
really good man and he undid his good when I said you don't have a lot of value you can offer in my
life so just honor the barbarian. So every three months we're going to plug me back into our
ecosystem. Barbarian celebration. If we're not making barbarians every three months in
our ecosystem, if we're not growing like that with that kind of good, locking that
principle down, and then I get a reconnect with our family, then this whole thing
doesn't work and then the one thing he was tasked with he didn't do it. But he's
a super barbarian. So he tried to do the next thing because you can't do the next
thing unless you're its predecessor. So super barbarian there's like six of them. That's why I'm saying
this. Six of them. He'll be invited back into my life when he figures out a way he can be
valuable. But you stop being valuable and when you're not valuable it doesn't make
sense to have. It doesn't matter. My family matters.
If I don't have enough time for my family,
enough time for me, I take shits laying down on the ground
because my body doesn't work regular.
I don't actually eat regular food.
I make crazy fucking shit.
I don't have enough T-I-M-E, T-Y-M-E for me.
And so I actually don't play video games.
I actually don't call on another friend. I don't do any of that
This is what I do. This is this is what I do and I love doing it
So you'll be invited by so sounds callous, right? But you're not a utility of no response required deleted contact
Don't need to hear superfluous other things just no value to me. No value utility to my family
Maybe an opportunity cost maybe a distraction
I try to give you the thing barbarian matter super barbarian a specialist fuck hell on earth
Oh, you're a new fucking kind of man and then apocalypto is harder than I don't want to say harder than all combined
It's immeasurable. It's just exactly what it sounds like. It's apocalypto. Okay. Yeah.
Those are fantastic titles and I wanna, we'll link in the show notes where people can actually
take a deep dive and figure out what those tests are and where they can start doing them.
Just go to BarbarianFoundation.com. Perfect.
BarbarianFoundation.com and the Ride of Passage. It's a charity.
Hell yeah.
That's the trajectory.
You can go to the show notes.
Go to the show notes.
You should go to the show notes.
And then you should go to BarbarianFoundation.com.
Perfect. Well, that's where the one click it.
I want to get, you know, you hit me up before the documentary came out
and you weren't certain which way it was going to go.
Yeah. Yeah. And that's generally the case. I don't think out and you weren't certain which way it was going to go.
Yeah, yeah.
And that's generally the case.
I don't think I said I wasn't certain though.
Well I thought you said like hopefully it goes well.
You had a...
I don't think I said that.
No?
Okay, I always tell people be very careful when you quote me because I'm pretty certain
I know exactly what I said.
Maybe I heard wrong.
It seemed like there was an inkling that shit could have gone sour.
That was that
that's how I'll word that. I'll just say okay. Okay. And you know, we were talking about
timing it, you know, timing the podcast around then. And I think a lot of people have seen
it right? Like you fucking have a huge following Netflix ended up itself as a huge following.
Untold is a series. So there's a lot of people that are already into those. I didn't know any of that.
Kind of like 30 for 30 on ESPN.
So, and trust me, being a family man, I understand how important it is to want to protect,
not just from a physical stance, but in the modern world, protect the namesake of the people you love, right?
And to give them every opportunity,
right? As a provider for them to do the best in their life without having, you know, shackles or
some kind of weighted vest they got to carry on behalf of us as fathers. It's our job to fucking
lift them, not shackle them down. Make them better than you. Make them better. Lift them up like that.
Yeah. And then when you're responsible for what you just said a shackle Well, then I'm making a podcast. I'm gonna actually tell the truth
Yeah
so let's let's let's dive into that because the you know, there's clips and shit in there and I just talked with our friend Denise and
She said, you know, she'd been interviewed for three hours talking about stem cells and BPC 157 and peptides and all that
The myriad of great shit that's out from maybe not an ancestral standpoint,
but from a miracle of modern medicine, right?
Like what is actually working scientifically for people?
And I love peptides, stem cells have healed my knees.
Dude, let me turn that to fuck that.
I'm sorry.
It's all good.
That's speaker number four.
That one's not supposed to be on at all.
It's good music though.
It's good music.
Little hand pan in the background.
Now you still hear it, right?
That's the background. You know, thinking about that, just the fact that those things were 86, in and of itself, tells a tale, right?
It tells a tale of like, we're not going to show the science on why some of this stuff is hugely beneficial for people.
There's a great podcast that Rob Wolf did with Paul Ck. And Paul Chek is one of my mentors.
Rob is as well.
Paul has a phenomenal physique, never needed anabolic.
He's a mesomorph.
He was strong as an ox from a young age, total badass
in the 82nd Airborne Division.
And he's seen where bodybuilders go awry and get shit wrong,
and there's health consequences for that.
But Rob talks about going raw vegan on that.
But I'll link to his podcast on the show, and it's a good one's health consequences for that. But Rob talked about going raw vegan on that,
but I'll link to his podcast in the show
and it's a good one, it's four hours.
And Rob said all the right things in the world
that he had done couldn't shift how bad he had fucked
his own natural hormones up because he was a raw vegan
for so long, right, in college, right?
So now he's in jujitsu and he's like,
I had to work with enclomaphene and HCG
to help boost back natural testosterone
For me, I'll talk talk about my shit
I've been on testosterone since I was 17 years old to try to play
You know football in the NFL and being my weight exact weight than I am right now
And then now I walked on at Arizona State
I sat the bench and then that was the chip on my shoulder to fight professionally because I knew I was still an athlete
and And that was the chip on my shoulder to fight professionally, because I knew I was still an athlete. And instead of trying to be as big as I could at ASU,
I was 268.
I now realized, you know, they got Brock Lesnar, big ass
heavyweights, I'm going to see if I can cut to 205.
And from there, that taught me a lot on leaning out
and how to stay thin and water reduction and all those things.
But you know, Charlie Francis had a famous quote from the,
he was Ben Johnson's coach in the 88 Olympics,
and he said, the playing field is level,
it's just not the playing field they think it is.
Right, so I remember, you know,
buddies with Lance Armstrong,
like the fucking witch hunt that went on
for Lance Armstrong, the witch hunt.
I mean, think about that.
Imagine if you saw Mr. Olympia,
and somebody said, that guy takes steroids,
and they pointed to one person,
amongst all of the people on stage, you'd be like, what do you, that guy takes steroids, and they pointed to one person amongst all of the people on stage,
you'd be like, what do you mean that guy?
Like, what do you mean that guy?
This is the fucking whole field here, right?
So Lance Armstrong, same thing.
Everyone in the Tour de France
is working with some type of performance enhancement.
The whole crew is.
Victor Conti, you know, went to prison
because he was aiding Marion Jones, Barry Bonds.
Nobody wanted to fucking, everyone wanted to see Barry Bonds break the home run record.
And everybody knew what Barry Bonds was doing.
Nobody gave a fuck about that.
So I mean, I just, to me, when it, when, when your thing happened, and I want to refresh
this too, because I want to get the full story that wasn't told.
I want to know about your life, like growing up.
I want to know about the changes that you've made.
I want to know what got you know the story of what got you into this because it's very
akin you know being at Paleo FX guys like Marxist and Rob Wolf there right we all have
similar backgrounds that brought us to our health and wellness journey and these are
the core tenets of the ancestral movement are things that stood out right so when if
because somebody might say like oh he lied he lied, that kind of shit,
and like you've come clean on that,
that doesn't discount anything else
that's happened before that.
It doesn't discount a single fucking thing
that you've taught prior to that.
What are you gonna say, you call me a snake oil salesman,
sunlight is snake oil?
Fucking cold therapy, snake oil?
What are we doing here?
You think liver is snake oil?
Look at the fucking micronutrient profile in organ meat.
Come on.
So I just say this because it's been frustrating for me on the sidelines witnessing the modern
witch hunt, right?
Which is effectively what it is.
And it always has pissed me off to see people make a name for themselves who are shitting
on another person.
Like that guy has clearly done nothing in his life to earn a reputation.
And yet because he's using you as a springboard, now he gets more people.
And that's something that pisses me off. There's another lady, the food scientist, she calls herself because she doesn't like the food babe.
And it's like, I'm going to call myself the food scientist because I went to college and I know more than the food babe.
And the food babe is preaching wrong babe is, you know, preaching
wrong principles and she said that sugar is toxic. And let me let me define for me from
the Webster dictionary what toxic. It's like, listen, dude, fucking sugar is not helping
people the vast majority unless you're metabolically flexible, and you can handle like a little
added sugar in your diet, most people should do with less. Right? Let's face it, right? I still see people, you go to a fucking airport, go to an airport
and use the shitter. Go to a truck stop and use the shitter. Right? That
smell is the smell of someone's diet that's been wrong for 30 years. Do you
know when you smell that it's in your lungs? Because you're smelling it, so now
it's in your lungs and now it's being diffused in your bloodstream.
So you could avoid that.
I'm just saying, it's an example of where we're at
as modern people, and for anyone to say that-
It's not in the right direction.
We're becoming sicker and weaker, and it's not okay.
You know, we're calling it depression,
and we're calling it anxiety.
We're calling it autism, pandas, anedonia. We can't remember our own names. We're
sending our elders outsourcing. Our elders, and shame on our elders for not
being more valuable, to restore the ancestral message. There's 12 ancestral tiddance. How strong is your time? You know, how profitable are you
with your time? Grandparents are grand. Wisdom, like the ancestral movement, Mark Sisson is the
reason why I learned about it. Mark Sisson and Weston A. Price is how I learned about it in the
first place. It's not okay. And then, okay, that's really what matters is the message.
The name never did.
Snake Oil sells men or any other name.
That's all fine and good because there's attention, a lot of attention.
And then, you know, unfortunately the intention was entertaining.
It was entertaining.
And then sometimes, you know, I get to meet a lot of people, which is awesome.
And, hey, it's Liver King.
Yeah.
How do you know me?
You're the guy that does this.
Yeah.
What do you do?
Did it change your life?
Oh, you eat the raw meat?
Do you eat raw meat?
Do you eat liver?
No.
No.
Okay.
Since we just met, could you just do push-ups before dinner?
Could you maybe, or maybe push-ups with me right now?
Just start that one thing, and then if you could learn
about the ancestral tenants, that'd be awesome.
But some people, yeah, it changed X, Y, and Z.
My daughter actually got pregnant
because of your supplements.
It wasn't the supplements, it was the supplements,
but it's the actual nurture when you come into our ecosystem of
true believers that have been crippled by respect of what we're calling the depressions
and autism and X, Y, and Z, people that have actually recovered that and live that life
with their family.
It's their job to take care of you, to nurture you in a way.
And then by the way, if you happen to have this other issue, if you, our ancestors had a similar issue,
if our ancestors had a similar issue, they would eat the corresponding organ
of that healthy animal to strengthen and support their own. You should go to the
butcher and try and get, if you won't do any of that, I got something else for you.
But the hand-holding and nourishment is true believers that have been through
the same shit and it's the tenants, most of the tenants that help.
Oh, so you got neurodegenerative disease and you're having trouble there.
What should I take?
You shouldn't take brain.
You should probably take some sunshine.
You should probably start getting into the cold.
That would be really good if you start getting cold.
And if you start doing some of these ancestral tenets,
you know, oh God, kids with epilepsy, that kills me.
Kids that have seizures and epilepsy
that don't know about the ketogenic diet,
that it's actually FDA approved for the ketogenic diet.
A hundred years ago, Johns Hopkins was studying it
and that's when people call that a fad diet.
It's like, it's been around for a hundred years.
When is it not a fad?
You know what? This is the thing that showed the only thing that would work for when prescriptions fail
Right when when epilepsy is so bad that is that is drug drugs are that actually ain't totally true
The Charlie Foundation think it was Charlie that they're the guys that
titles THC
What high dose THC is that we were the guys that organized. The Tito's THC? What?
High dose THC, is that what you're talking about?
No, the Charlie Foundation.
Okay.
And they had epilepsy and drugs weren't working
and they didn't know what to do.
And first principles, they tried this out.
The brain might be firing like this differently.
And what if we didn't restricted it, some of this energy source?
And first principle, okay, let's see what happens.
And then he stopped having seizures.
And then John Hopkins, oh, they got interested.
And then the world got interested
and it works its lifestyle.
It's more congruent with how our ancestors left.
By default, we kind of lived
a pretty fucking ketogenic lifestyle.
Depending, if you're polar, looking at Weston A. Price's work, if you're from the equator, a little different, right? Carbohydrates are more available.
Yeah. Ketogenic still. You're never not ketogenic. You're measured, you of ketones, right?
Hopefully at least some, some.
And so along that continuum and the activity that ensues along with it too,
it's just this is an energy source, this is interesting, and let's try this.
And it worked, and then after it ends up working, again Hopkins gets involved,
and it's
an FDA and and there's other drugs and we'll try the depakotes, lithium,
these mood stabilizers, the chemical straightjacket side effects that they
have, we'll just dull the whole organism. Yeah. The whole organism.
But a ketogenic diet, evidence-based,
similar to our ancestors.
So if you come into our ecosystem,
somebody who's dealt with the same thing
and recovered that same thing,
and or their kid had seizures,
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And then also brain is important
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That's why the brain is called brain,
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do you know? You weren't listening. Do you remember? The next topic? The nested one,
because this was a small, it was okay. The world is living with depression, anxiety,
infertility, dementia and we've relegated, it's a diagnosis, we've labeled it
because it fits in a DSM fucking book.
If you have this number of subjective metaphors,
now we've figured it out, that's what you have,
take this other thing for it,
sicker and weaker we're becoming.
Less love, less family, that sucks.
More not good and true, anger, frustration,
less love, less patience, less grace.
That's not okay. And so the name doesn't matter, the message fucking matters.
It's the message that matters. And so taking steroids, the vigorous circus
clown that said I was on a billion things. Denise Rexroad was trying to help me.
She was an angel and you know it.
I wasn't buying these things illegally.
I was trying these different things, not at the same time, but all of those things, all
of that was true.
I hired him because I needed help, because I couldn't figure shit out, because I had
brain fog that was horrible
I was trying to do a lot of things and I'm gonna try this liver King thing by the way
I'm gonna try this liver King thing. So I don't know who could help me
So, you know who I I asked somebody and the somebody said there's this guy that's really smart
His name is Derek. His name is Derek. And so I emailed Derek Derek
I got problems all this that, that, and the other.
Could you help me?
Could you, you got me?
Send.
No response, no response before I started Liver King, you know.
So he had the email the whole time, the whole time he had it.
And then, so what ends up happening is he doesn't help me.
There's another really smart dude, Vigorous Sleeve.
So I hire him, actually pay him two payments,
and then he unravels his contract as a man
to not honor the contract at all,
and to stop responding to me after attempting
to guide me with certain things,
and then a lie after lie after lie,
and then to reach out and to try and share it,
not good and true, a lot of not good and true. And so taking steroids
became the thing
Liar king the liar king liar king liar king and and so he's probably gonna go away
it's probably gonna go away just tuck him away and you'll go away and
But I did kind gonna go away. Just tuck them away and you'll go away and but I
Did kind of go away recently
But what ends up happening is the truth gets told the bill comes due
And I wasn't on all those things at one time all that money that's spent on steroids is
All that money spent on growth hormone because the testosterone cream that I have in here,
that testosterone cream's like $50 a month,
maybe $100 a month.
So really spend $11,000 a month on steroids,
oh, I'm sorry, $11,000 a month on a peptide,
and $100 a month, not on steroids, on steroid,
on a steroid, but I'm gonna apologize and say,
I took steroids and I'm gonna
introduce myself by saying I take steroids. That's the thing. Hurting
somebody, I couldn't figure out who did I hurt? Was it intentional? Did I
premeditate to hurt or to gain an unfair advantage over a single person? Maybe it
could have even been the opposite. I didn't watch social media. I called it
anti-social media. I never had any of this stuff. I didn't watch social media. I called it anti-social media.
I never had any of this stuff.
I didn't know that Natty or not was a thing.
I didn't know it could become a thing.
Kind of clever, you know, whenever I first heard it
was a thing.
So prior to that, people are starting
to ask me on the internet, do you take steroids?
Young kids, young kids.
And so right back, oh my god, how should I answer this?
Do I take steroids?
The message is what matters. The message is what matters. I don't matter. It's the message.
Nope. No, don't you believe that you could become anything? Don't you think you too could
become anything? Just try. Because I was nothing, like really nothing.
And it was really hard for a long time.
So I kind of know what it's like and you could become something without steroids.
And so I started it. That's what I said.
And then I didn't know it was actually a thing, you know, Natty or not.
Then there's a video, you know, there's a video, the first one.
Natty or not, I don't know. I don't know.
Second one, I don't know, but millions of people still watch it, you know.
I'm not sure what good is it doing? What's it actually doing? What's its purpose?
Maybe it's just a gain attention
Maybe it's a gain attention
But we'll take the blessings if we got attention because of that a lot of attention followers that you're able to share
I hope maybe some of the message, you know, we'll do good. Hope some of the message will do good
But then it's the liar king the liar king, the liar king,
and then my queen knows the truth
and people close to me know the truth
and they say, how come you don't just tell people
the truth, that you've only been on testosterone cream
for years and growth hormone.
And growth hormone, many times I don't take it at all.
When I have an injury right now I have a lot of injuries. My intestines are...
and so I'll take more when I have an injury and I still take like a
maintenance dose. So there's a utility, like any technology, fire is a utility.
Spear technology became a utility.
Projectile utility.
Technology is anything that can be used as a utility.
And so testosterone cream was made.
It's like the arrow.
Someone made an arrow.
Then out of some other kind of principle,
I'll let you guys use the arrow, kill, feed your family.
And instead of me using that technology, I'm just going to say no,
because I'm ancestral because I'm ancestral, you know.
And meanwhile, everyone's life is getting better.
But yours, have you seen the Croods? Mm hmm.
Watch it every year.
Every year. Have you seen Wally?
You all fucking love Wally. Watch it every year. My dad just did a cruise.ALL-E? No, I fucking love WALL-E. Watch it every year.
My dad just did a cruise.
He's 70.
The cruise.
But he did a cruise.
I know you're talking about the cruise.
Oh, oh.
But he just did an actual cruise to Alaska and he said it felt like the Axiom from WALL-E.
Oh, oh.
People floating around, getting their food delivered right to them.
I can't get that image out of my head.
I mean, I was dying.
He's like, I'm in the gym every day.
I haven't touched a single carbohydrate
while I've been here.
You know, he's trying to get-
Does your dad look good?
He does.
He's had some ups and downs, but yeah,
he's physically fit, but certainly by comparison,
both my parents still have great physiques
for their age, yeah.
Okay, good, good.
Yeah.
Because that's, we laugh with that's happening
because that's what he saw.
And that's why the movie's really important
because every year that inches closer to the year
the movie has made the axiom and all that,
Elon's trying to do the axiom.
And we are doing the people thing.
It's actually happening.
And so I want to be
the biggest fan of that movie WALL-E. I feel like I want to
promote it, re-release it, because WALL-E is such a
beautiful, elegant teacher. Genius has made it. They didn't
make a second one. Why not? You know what a blockbuster the
first one was and how much merch the first one sold? Why
didn't they make a second one? Someone with genius, honor
and morale, like they did this right and I'm like oh my god it's so good. How do I
promote it? How can I promote Wally? It's such a good movie because that's
happening. We're becoming sicker and weaker. The message is what matters.
That's why I started to lock down. I don't take steroids and since I know
you're going to ask, let me just go ahead and prospectively bring that up. I'll control
that one. I'll control that one. And so that's the thing that I lied about. And so I became
a liar. And instead of like, actually what I am, the one thing that I lied about became
my reputation. But that is my reputation and I made those decisions.
I earned every bit of every fucking hate.
I earned every bit of the support, so many people.
So many, and you know real men?
Like real man, servicemen, and fighters.
These guys that you go to the gun show,
you find a lot of friends real men a lot
of friends and then people that aren't so friendly that might capitulate
something from the audience anonymously and then I'll turn around and I'll say
who said that who said that who Who said that? Who said that?
Sometimes you don't get a cricket. And I said, yeah, that's true.
Why are you saying it now?
Is it to get attention?
Because you have my attention, but you have my attention.
Why are you saying it?
Because you took steroids, because you deceived people. You're right, I took steroids. And it
was never my intention to deceive people. It's the
message that matters. I hope that you'll know what those that
message is and you probably never will. So push ups before
dinner. Do push up. Never forget push ups before dinner,
you know. The problem I want to interject here, I think the big
problem for people like if you're if you're Lance, like you discredit everything
the guy's ever done, right?
So I get why Lance lied.
But for someone in your circumstance, why lie?
Well, the second somebody says,
yes, I take testosterone replacement therapy.
Yes, I have HRT, whatever.
I have a prescription for growth hormone and testosterone,
and I use peptides on the side is to the average person. That's the first
the first give me on why you look the way that you look and why I'm never going to look
that way. So let me discredit everything else. And the buck stops there for a lot of people.
Right. And so I can see why that is problematic when you're trying to push a movement,
while you're trying to do things. It derails the arguments.
Like, listen, there are millions of people on testosterone replacement therapy
that do not look good, right?
But they enjoy the increase in libido. They enjoy the increase in energy and vigor.
Maybe they add 20 pounds to their bench press, but they're not shredded.
They're not putting in the same work you are, right?
They're not doing all the other intangibles
That actually make you look the way that you look and yes, you got testosterone growth hormone helping but it's it's it's insane to me that
That is like a conversation killer
Just simply because of the fact that people really don't know right people really don't know
How to get that far, you know, and so it's really easy for people that don't look that way to say,
oh, that's why he looks that way.
Like I said, man, I took a gang of shit when I was in college.
Oh, that's fine.
Yeah, all because it's almost like egotistical.
You know, the truth is, I worked really, really hard.
The deeper truth, I think you alluded to earlier is when someone says, how long have you been working out?
You probably don't want to tell them the 30 something years
because oh my God, if that takes 30 something years,
I might not start.
So I say, why are you asking?
And then we get to the, you know what you should do
is you should start.
You should start because really fast,
you could look really good.
Pushups before dinner.
And you'll feel good.
You'll feel good. And so the message matters. That's how it started. And you know,
that you can forget everything that I did. Everything that I did. And all of that can be
tarnished because it was never for me. The ancestral message, but we already live it.
My boys are awesome because of it.
Our family is awesome, our ranch is awesome, animals treated the same way.
I wanted to share it.
And the network that said that they were going to tell the truth, thought it would be interesting
to make a movie of it too, to share it.
And that wasn't, when you edit stuff in your network and you have to pay for stuff, then
we try and sell things that people might want to buy.
And sometimes people want to buy things that aren't as positive.
We like negative stuff for some reason.
We like negative stuff.
So they try to make that thing.
Me being a liar, you know, what I was trying to do is share some tenets
that I believe in so deeply because it changed our lives. They don't cost anything. You can
do them right now. It actually could change your life tomorrow. When you start, if you've
not put your feet on the ground, a lot of people haven't. Once you immediately connect
with the earth, it's really interesting when you come back,
how you feel.
No explanation required.
But if you, I'm like, when's the last time you really got sun?
We avoid it like it's so villainous.
They do here in Texas with the heat, and how do you think you attenuate?
Go for a jog in the middle of the day when it's that hot hot and then tell me that you can't withstand the sun after that. If you jog in the
midday sun in Texas in the summertime, you make the heat and it's not a
problem, right? You become so in tune with it that you just go out, you sweat, you
feel good. I do think it's important to, if possible, start when you can, right?
Middle summer. But if you actually start getting, if you go outside every day,
and as it's warming up,
the adaptations that you get is guess what?
Your core temperature gets to stay the same.
Your thermoregulatory mechanisms like sweating or shivering,
they start to kick in.
The biological benefits from those things
start to give you more of the same,
and now the adaptations happen
in a
slower gentle kind of way but to go running at two o'clock and do apocalypto
like I did the day after Father's Day you don't just start go day one you need
to start just fucking go but like adaptations take time you know if you
just make it part of your daily routine,
you end up not getting hot.
You just sweat a bunch.
And guess what happens when you sweat a bunch?
You might be wet, but all those toxins are gone.
The liver that doesn't actually collect them,
filters them and processes them,
that gets to operate a little bit better.
A second brain of ours, the liver,
gets to operate a little bit better. And a bunch of ours. The liver gets operated a little bit better and a bunch of really
cool things happen when you start doing some of these things. So the lie, you know, kind of undercut
the messenger killed the message but the message just started. You know, that liver king, there was
so many embarrassing things that I did, you know, but I watched the movie
I'm like, I remember that I remember and you got to remember like first of all that we filmed it like a year ago
Or a year and a half ago or something and then most of what they showed was way before that too
So if you're a man of any kind of value and you have done your job a little bit and you've grown a little bit
Yeah, you have the right to be embarrassed as fuck
about content that many years older.
Watching, oh my God, the messenger did fuck that up,
did fuck that up.
Taking notes I gotta do.
And to not fuck it up again,
nobody gets to offer me the second chance.
I'm taking it, that's what I'm doing.
I'm capable of doing it, I know how to do it.
My family, they signed up for the movie, actually,
that no one wanted to do it.
The amount that they paid us would end up costing me a ton of money
because I actually make real money.
And then what they paid me was so insignificant.
And it was, if you want to pay me 100x that then I could make I'll
make a second one but if not that's fine the number you're gonna pay me Mays will
be divided by whatever it doesn't matter it's inconsequential I'm making it to
try and do some good and true to show these tenants and so they didn't do that
they undercut it they They did something else.
What I'm doing, it's not even what I'm doing.
I call it King's time.
It's King's time.
What I've learned to do is discern what matters, nothing
that doesn't.
Be profitable as fuck with time.
And then bridge the gap, the delta to perfect,
to discern what matters.
Be profitable with time,
delta to perfect, what's the action you could have done differently, and then start doing that in real time,
and it's like, oh, perfect, flow, flow, flow, flow,
and then when something is done perfectly,
that's, oh, that's awesome, that's perfect, right,
but what about when it's above that, right, unexpected?
It's king time, you know, not, it's above that, right? Unexpected. It's king time, you know, not my sliver king.
It's like, that's the kingdom.
That's capital G time, man.
You know, and so king time is what's happening.
And when you tell a clock, there's 12 demarcation points
and there's 12 ancestral tenants.
What's stronger than time are principles.
Before time, principles. After time, principles. Time is actually not what we
think it is. Time is very manipulative. I can do things very different with time
than you can do with time. I'm not saying that one's better than the other actually
I am saying one's better than the other but I don't know you well enough so I
take it back. I'll just say we- Are you Dr. Strange? You can fucking stop time and
move it back? When you go on a Dr. Strange, you keep fucking stop time and move it back.
When you go on a vacation, you know how it feels that things
might go fast. And when you do the opposite of that things
might seem really slow. And then my boys and I, we were doing we
do Wednesday, what's the Wednesday workout called boys?
grit day. Wednesday is grit day. There's no structure to it.
Today you're going to pay a barbarian price.
A barbarian is double-fisting bad laxes,
running up the mountain to no end, to no end, period,
to full-stend their potential to no end.
And so Grit Day reminds us of that.
We're doing Grit Day, carrying and holding a bunch of stuff,
like weighted vest and mace or something.
And then we see some technology guys inside the
What we call the flex space. It's an open garage and I say hey technology guys
Can you walk with us because we don't stop because we're working out what my boys don't know is I'm not working out with them
I'm bonding with them. You know, I'm bonding with them
Okay, I'm working out too guys. I'm working out to you think you're working out. And then these guys, hey, walk with us. Walk with us, guys. Most people don't know how to walk and talk. Just walk. Just walk as I talk. If you don't mind,
just listen. We want to do a Mario Kart setup. My wife, she doesn't get to do a lot of the fun
container stuff with us anymore. I think she would enjoy getting on a steering wheel and emerging
experience. Huge screen. Combining the virtual world with the real world,
having our me's look like our respective self,
mom, dad, striker, rad, he calls himself four in though,
so like just fucking make it striker, strikes, please.
And so we're actually next to each other
every day at six o'clock, we can see each other on the track,
we can attack each other, the virtual world and the real world overlaid.
And so that's what I imagined.
Could you guys make that for us?
Could you make that for us?
As we're walking, we're working out and bonding.
And then how much time do you think it took?
How much time did it take my time to build that setup?
I don't know.
Just guess. Any number. A day. Of my time, though. I don't know. Just guess any number.
A day.
Of my time though.
Well I just walked you through it.
So the walk was how long it took.
But that's not really true
because I was bonding with my boys.
I was working out, we never stopped.
And so any extra time
that it took to build that
it took zero extra time, zero extra time.
And so, in the fun box, she plays in every day with us.
Every, and we're, and she can't wait to play,
they can't wait to play.
Every day, bro.
And so what we do differently with our time,
many, we can do many things.
I call it passive profit centers.
So like I wear weighted vests all the time.
It's in the car and I took it off
because I didn't want to look like an idiot, you know,
of meeting you, which I guess I did take in a piss.
That was perfect.
That was quite ancestral, meeting you at the gate
where you're taking a leak.
That was the first thing I do when I get home sometimes
just from the drive in Texas.
Nothing wrong with that.
So whenever we're doing something,
when I'm having a meeting,
which I don't sit down and have a meeting,
I'm wearing the vest and I don't spend any time
in the gym anymore.
So my passive profit center is my skeleton.
I have a 40 pound vest, an 80 pound vest,
and 120 pound vest.
And then Mesa's loaded up from 25 to 60.
Ooh, buddy.
So I get a walk with one of those wherever I go.
And so, but it's no extra effort.
I was already going there, you know?
And so passive profit centers, what we do with our time,
time works different is what I'm saying.
And so my hope and goal really is that
the ancestral tenants, it fits.
King time, there's 12 of them.
What's stronger than time or principles
came before that will remain after time.
Time is not actually what we think it is.
It works different for different people.
Time is almost like a daughter from God,
an offspring from God.
If God made the sun and if God has the moon, mother moon or something, mother earth.
And time is like one of those other things.
And so, and we can, it's different for everybody.
Everything that you do within your entire existence is done within the realm of time.
And who's in control of it?
Ultimately, absolute, who's in control of that? Ultimately, absolute, who's in control of that?
That's you, right?
And so indivisible we are from time,
so we're called human beings.
We could be called time.
Loyalty to time.
It's kind of important to be loyal to lower swords.
You know, that's hard when we can't be loyal
to our own time.
And so King times, like, dude, that was perfect? that's hard when we can't be loyal to our own time.
And so King Time's like, dude, that was perfect,
but that was better than perfect.
Bonus score, lock it the fuck, lock it down.
And so the demarcation points with King Time,
K-Y-N-G-T-Y-E-B-E,
instead of it reflecting the hour demarcation, which of course it can do that. It's one of the tenets, the 12 tenets.
Sleep, eat, move, shield, connect, cold, sun, fight, bond, evolve, adventure, slash fun.
The very top is spirit.
And so before I had nine, I don't know why I had nine. The very top is spirit.
So before I had nine, I don't know why I had nine.
One of the best gifts I have is categorizing shit.
I can categorize anything.
So those nine ancestral tenets made sense.
People would ask, what about the spirit?
What about...I don't know.
I didn't know.
But evolve became the tenth one because I thought that was important,
to grow, to get better,
to have the right to change my mind.
When Rad says, well earlier you said this,
well you know what, if I'm really growing,
if I really evolve, then I have the right now,
I've earned the right to change my mind
whenever I want to change my mind.
And if me changing my mind is the better bet,
honoring good and true, nobody's hurt worse,
everybody wins more, a decision making matrix can guide that pretty easily. So stronger than time are these
principles. There's 12 ancestral tenets. It's not liver king time. King time is kingdom
time and that's what it is. So I'm proud to say what I tarnished, what I tarnished in the snapshot of time, I did.
And I'm barely starting to share what we're really doing.
My son, Stryker, is a rap artist.
Give me a minute on Spotify.
It was on there earlier.
Next time it comes on, I'll be like,
hey, can we turn this up just for a second?
What I'm doing with my time,
I've retired the liver king character
to do my higher swords, to do king to my queen,
to do father to my boys.
Every Thursday is father, son Thursday.
Father, son Thursday.
And we get to go do stuff,
but you get what you give,uckers all roads bleed through barbarian
So you bleed before breakfast?
We're gonna do it together and whatever depth at which we bleed that which we sacrifice and pour that blood into
That's the rise and the reward. That's what we get to treat ourselves to and so let's measure
Let's measure let's see who can you know that. And then let's honor what we said.
And then it kind of tastes better, feels better.
Everything seems to be better to do that.
So retiring that character to step back in
to do higher swords and then Strikers first song,
Give Me A Minute is about being still.
Stimulus, response, choice in the middle, responsibility.
But instead stimulus, response, stimulus responds, stimulus responds, stimulus responds.
We respond a lot. Give me a minute is stimulus with everything. Slow the fuck down. Give
me a minute. Slow the fuck down. Choose. Understand. Understand. Respond. You know, out of principle. And so he's allowed me to share a lot of what
we're doing now. Yeah, so I don't mind. Okay, that's true. I tarnished the message. Most of
that stuff's true. I did lie about taking steroids. It wasn't really plural or multiple. It was really,
I should have said, I take steroid and I take one peptide. That's what I should have said.
That would have been the truth. And I thought, let me not say that and get more criticism.
So I'll say this other thing. And so all that's the truth and everything being tarnished,
whoever it tarnished,
that's what happened. I hope that they found another guru, you know, to better themselves
because they already needed help in the first place. We all need help in the first place.
It doesn't matter what you call the person that you learn from. And so if you call this
guy this thing, there's someone else that you should learn from. And there's someone
else that can help you make your better life and keep collecting information.
You know, and I hope that makes sense
because the blueprint of how our ancestors lived
for millions of years that shaped our DNA today
so that we could become the baddest mammalian predators
that ever lived, the most loving, the most communicative,
the most bonding, warm, fire, bliss, beauty, good, true, those things that shaped our DNA, we're no longer doing
those things. The modern world we live in, yeah, can we overlay some of these
principles, 12 of them, to live a better life, a way better life, you know, and so in a organized way, I just hope you find someone,
the better bet is find a better philosophy
than the ancestral way.
That makes sense.
To me that makes sense, that's what shaped us forever.
Forever, that's what shaped us since our inception.
Have we evolved?
Maybe one day we'll evolve to be able to take on so much sugar
and be so insulin resistant that that WALL-E movie
that we've adapted and actually probably not lived better lives
but able to live, maybe not evolve so much, maybe de-evolve.
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The proof is in the pudding.
You know, when I think of these principles, even like fasting and things like that, you can feel it.
It's immediate. Wim Hof talks about that.
You get in the cold, you know, like, and you battle your way through the holy shit moment
and you find stillness and you get out and it shifts your
Neurochemistry and it changes the way you feel and operate for hours sometimes for the rest of the day, right?
That's pretty impactful when you think about I'm a natural like the McKenna's brothers talked about that
You know, like we're a walking bag of chemicals
You know the way the brain works and if we understand these levers that we have within ourselves
That we can control ultimately what type of chemicals we're producing, what our
experience is, where our emotional state is, and taking that responsibility
allows us to have that and what you're providing are tools, right? These are
tools that we've known about for many many years and thousands of years and if
we can come back into some sort of harmony and consistency with these
things there's not only long-term benefit there's benefit in the act itself. and if we can come back into some sort of harmony and consistency with these things,
there's not only long-term benefit,
there's benefit in the act itself.
Yeah, I would say they're not tools,
they're really principles.
And I'll give you one example.
What you said with cold, not only do you get those immediate
and of course some longer-term benefits,
even the upregulation of brown adipose tissue
to be more metabolically active. That's something that matters.
I used to ask my boys,
what did you do today that matters?
Stuff that you can stack, build, and not what mattered.
I don't need to know about something in the past.
It's not gonna matter.
And so there's so many extra benefits there.
And then I shared this with my wife.
I'm gonna tell, can I tell them?
I'm gonna tell them this one.
There's 130 of them, this is one of them. Do you ever put, when you get in the cold, where do you
go to? How deep do you go?
To the chin.
To the chin?
Yeah.
Do you ever put your brain stem go back like that?
Yeah, that one's tough where I tilt back like that and get to the jawline and under the
ears before. I don't like letting it go inside my ear holes, but...
And if you do that and you're just breathing right at the nostrils,
That's a tough one.
98.6 is where we like to operate.
And then 32 degree continuous cooling cold plunge,
it says I'm dying.
There's no way I'm gonna lock down.
I'm gonna vasoconstrict.
I gotta conserve every,
cause eminent death.
And so I'm going to fucking do everything I know how to do.
All the vascular tissue, there's,
there's so many different things
are now doing what they know how to do.
But they haven't done that in a long time, in a long time.
And then by the way,
you do have to be careful about how you do it.
Right, I mean, I'll do, I'll do a breath hold underneath with a spotter right Wim Hof has said always have a spotter
He's lost, you know a handful of people that decided to do breath locks underwater by themselves not recommending that but um
Yeah with my son there or or my wife, you know doing the breath hold underwater a million dive reflex all that stuff is just hitting
Pathways that are really untouched. So check this out, there's a moment where you think
maybe you're getting disoriented and it feels the same every time, start counting
backwards from 30 and the minute that you can't fluently do it, get the fuck out,
you got whatever the Delta is to zero, plus 15 seconds, safety cushion. So when you're getting out, the reperfusion,
the new expansion that it hasn't seen before
because it's never been so constricted,
it's never done this before either.
And so super highway, you can have a super highway,
something that matters.
Eating notes to tail is information,
more information, diverse information. Notes
to tail in the garden, that's seasonal, local information from the sun, you know, information
from the earth, information from spirit and energy. If we can take in a variety of information
and you have a superhighway, getting cold is fucking awesome. And so cold is one of the tenets, but it's really thermal pressures.
Heat or cold, you know, any thermal pressure are the things.
So I think part of what you're saying is there's actually utility, not just forever, but like do it.
You feel good right now with a lot of these things.
Some of these other things, it depends on what you're dealing with, it might take you some time. It's nice to do most of these things. If you think you're
paying a huge price for one of the, oh, I'm not going to do that because it's cold out
and I don't like to walk out in the cold. You don't have to do that one. You can skip
that one. There's eight other tenants, you know. So you see the benefits now.
In principle, stack compound, better life, man.
More love, more understanding.
So the king time clock, 12 tenants, Kingsbury.
Like, oh, this lines up.
We should probably go into business with it.
Do you wanna see it?
Absolutely.
I should show it to you.
Cause you're gonna like it.
You're gonna be like, how do I get that right now? Check it out. I'm gonna hand show it to you. Because you're going to like it. You're going to be like, how do I get that right now?
Check it out.
I'm going to hand it over to you.
Wow, it's gorgeous.
Yeah.
And you can't see it right now, but engraved on the inside it says, all roads bleed, really
tiny.
All roads bleed dot dot dot through barbarian.
And on its reciprocal side, it kind of balances it and says our core values, strength, courage, mastery,
honor, above all else, loyalty, just really small.
And so whenever this was kind of developed,
I thought, okay, I could die now.
I could die for a little bit, you know,
because of the liver king.
But the message matters. Time, principles, what's
stronger than it, aligning them together and being able to show like with utility.
I have a path that can really, I believe, help. Yeah. What, I have a question for you
and it came up in the pot in the came up in the film where you talked about the carnivore movement and things like
that.
And I was gung ho in ketosis when I retired from fighting because it just helped my brain
work again.
It was one of the things alongside plant medicines and hyperbaric oxygen that really reshaped
and retuned my brain after all the damage it had taken from college football, Pop Warner,
and then of course in fighting.
And, uh, you know, at a certain point I was like, you know, I fucking love
carbohydrates, like berries and other goodies and sourdough bread that's
homemade and all the fun stuff.
Um, and I have more balance, but now, you know, at least once a year,
probably twice a year, I'll do some form of a longer form fast.
Sometimes we'll stay in ketosis for two or three weeks just to get that metabolic
reset. But what came up for me in that was I noticed your love for the plants and I
noticed the way the verbiage around the mother and the sacredness of, you know,
when you harvested that beautiful bull. At what point did you rebuild or remember
your connection to spirit, to God?
Jared Goetz said to go to Clarivita, just surrender and go, and go.
And I said okay, and I went, and I met my Spirit, and came back with my spirit, with my soul, and discerned the ego
from my soul.
And I like the soul version of me.
To be able to be so free to share everything, everything, shitting laying down is how I
shit. I do enemas every day.
I asked Ben Greenfield, I asked him for the recipe on Thanksgiving. Dude, I thought I
was dying. I kind of was. The CT scan said it. And I said, Ben, what's the coffee enema
recipe? And he responds best things giving greeting ever
And I only ask him for stuff when I need them and I haven't been I haven't even said thank you
So I need to honor him better
But to be so free to share all of those things
anything
Because the trajectory of he lied
those things, anything, because the trajectory of He Lied set me on a new trajectory. Clare Vida introduced me to my spirit and then my spirit introduced me to the things
that really matter like the trees and the birds and all that kind of stuff.
Is Clare Vida an ayahuasca retreat center?
No, not ayahuasca. Not ayahuasca retreat center? No. Not ayahuasca.
Not ayahuasca.
It's a retreat center.
And I just would prefer to not say bone.
Yeah, yeah, that's it.
No, I get that.
The reason I said ayahuasca is due to the fact that for me,
I mean, I've got a laundry list of my sacroiliac passport
is long.
So everybody likes to use that for their pissing contest here in Austin.
But, um, of all the plant medicine journeys that I've had,
psilocybin really connected me to my spirit and showed me a level of dimension beyond everyday waking state reality.
But ayahuasca was the one that tied me to Pachamal, that tied me to Mother Earth in a way where I was like, wow,
that tied me to Pachamal, that tied me to Mother Earth in a way where I was like, wow, you're alive, you're thinking, you're a being like me, and you're a fucking huge, grand,
beautiful being that holds us all.
And so that to me was my doorway back into my remembrance of Mother Nature and how to
work with it and fueled us wanting to have a farm and grow our own food and be in connection
and harmony with that, change the way that I hunt
and change the way that I harvest
and the prayers that are made
and I've been able to include my kids in those as well,
just as you include your boys.
So I have big respect for those two in particular,
but especially I have for that level
of reconnection to the earth.
So it starts and then like I'm on my hands and
knees in the garden. If it's growing in my garden I eat all of it and I can't
swallow it because my gut doesn't work the right way so I chew the fuck out of
it. I basically juice it in my mouth and on your hands and knees all the fibers
forward then you got to just swallow the back.
It becomes easy.
It becomes easy to do it.
And then I don't actually spit it out.
I put it in my hand, and then I compost it around whatever
seems to be like there's some plants that are burning.
It's like they're alive and they're on fire.
And they're almost screaming for help.
And then you can recover a lot.
You can't do it all at once, but then I'll just spend a minute.
Not only will I take like the dying pieces off.
Okay, these are the dying pieces.
Now these pieces.
Right, sit still, she's just gonna land on you.
We got her cockatiel going to say hi.
So like these not healthy pieces
that were gonna fall off anyways. I'm like, OK, I'll eat that stuff.
And I'm going to end up spitting a lot of the cardboard.
So I used to throw it out of the garden.
Oh, trash out of the garden.
And now I'll just shred it.
It's been a lot.
I'll use it as compost for the sick one.
And then I'll just kind of do a little thing.
They're like, dude, I have fist bump?
I feel good about that? And now I know, like of do a little thing. And they're like, dude, I have fist bump? I feel good about that?
And now I know, like when I see rosemary,
I know rosemary.
Like really?
Or like marigold flower or English thyme?
And not all these things are meant to go
through the oral cavity.
Some of them you could just boom, boom, boom,
smell it in your lungs, diffuse through your bloodstream,
smoke, fire, real wisdom from outside,
smell it, information.
Your body knows how to parse out the stuff that's valuable
and stuff that isn't.
Some of it's valuable.
So to be on my hands and knees,
to have the relationship that I have in there
because of I know what we are, I know how connected we are, and to be grateful my hands and knees, to have the relationship that I have in there because I know what we
are and how connected we are and to be grateful for it.
We just had a lot of rain, a lot of rain, a lot of branches are down and when I see
branches are down, a lot of times like that was probably a sick branch anyways, but sometimes
it's not a sick branch.
Sometimes it's like a catastrophic blow or something really, really bad.
I can feel that we take all of their bones and we put it over in a pile.
We don't even burn in the burn pile.
They see, I got a sense of like, this is how they treat things that are important like really sacred to us and now when like that happens I see the branch and I'll start
to get everything together but I like look at the this big one that fell off
and I try to find okay where'd it come from and I'm like I look at it and you
can feel the hurt how fresh and shattered and moist,
like that wasn't meant to go.
That one hurt, man.
And so I'm like there with the branch.
And then I go over to the tree and I'm like,
I don't even say anything.
I just kind of feel something.
And I usually will then take it in for a fire.
And then those ashes, I return back to the base of the tree
You know, there's just a good feeling and there's a feeling
After getting plugged into that and being grateful acknowledging and understanding it
Um, I just told my wife like other gifts that you get
I was able to communicate with a frog yesterday
There's a frog that's outside and I moved really slow to get right next to it.
I'm right next to it and you can see its eye.
If I move, the eye moves, so it's looking at me, right?
And I got music on this side of me,
and so the frog's on this side,
and so the music's going through us, the same vibration.
And so if it's like this song.
going through us the same vibration and so if it's like this song
like whatever the beat is I'm doing and and I'm over here and the frog is looking over here it's feeling the same vibration we're communicating something neither of us know what you know but
an understanding that we never had before. That's a pretty cool feeling.
After being introduced to this stuff,
I became a dog whisperer, is what they call it.
But I understand my dogs and your dog, you know,
I just, I wanna share share. I want to share.
And the last part might make it seem like I don't have my head on right. That's fine too.
That's fine too because it feels good and I usually do it in private anyways.
You don't get to see that part.
The world's hurting. We're hurting, entertained, we're very entertained,
distracted, not creating value, wanting a better life,
saying that we're striving,
but really knowing that we're not, really hurting,
some of us so much so that we think
maybe the world might be better without us.
We're just not really headed in the right direction
and most of us know it.
And there's, I think that there's a better bet.
The way that we lived for millions of years, the things that are free, accessible to everybody
we could do them right now, 12 ancestral tenants, grounded in a framework.
There's no profitability except for you.
That's the message.
A supplement if you have a failing heart or brain or bone marrow or your pancreas isn't
working right.
Like supports like is actually grounded in something more sacred and more honorable. But
science even validates some of it. These things we should be eating that way. We
should get it from the butcher, get it from the farmers market. If you don't do
that you can supplement with it. One of my companies will profit money wise and that value exchange
will be used overwhelmingly to spread the message. Man, I really wanted to kind of talk
about like the gross inaccuracies, the mistruths about the movie. My family deserves better.
Our family deserves better.
Shame on you.
Shame on the network.
Shame on us for rewarding them.
You know, consequences.
You thought you would attack a guy that's like a cave idiot?
There would be no consequence.
And I never wish harm upon anybody.
My queen wants to take their knees out and
Mercifuls like you don't have to go any further
Just try to help make them good and true. How could you help them make good and true and everybody just profit more off of
prospectively being master builders of our own lives not reacting to somebody else making a reacting video
You know, but to master build our lives with principles, there's a better life to live without consequence. It's not okay.
The network doing this is not okay.
The director who made it, not okay.
We should boycott the movies.
There should be consequence.
The more plates, more dates guy, unsubscribe to him and the vigorous other guy, and then
everyone who unsubscribes every single one,
the millions, I'm gonna donate the exact amount
to a charity that does good.
And I wanna, I have a present for Joe Rogan
I've been trying to give him.
I didn't know the right time to give it to him.
Do you know John Wick 4?
The pit viper?
I got a collector's piece that's like 001 or one of the first ones.
From Tarrant Tactical?
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's a bad gun.
Oh, yeah.
Do you do the sand viper also?
I don't know which one I've shot with, but I got one of my buddies,
Justin Rezvani, has buddies with Taron and those guys and he will cough up the big
the high dollar amount for some of their gear and I've shot with those. For
Terrans? Yeah it's almost like a automatic for you know like you can just go as fast
that trigger is it's happy. The bed in the sand I got the sand after the eye injury
but those guns are so...
Staccato was always my favorite.
Oh, you can't beat staccato.
And they're here.
They're like in Austin or something.
Oh, cool.
You can't beat staccato.
Ferrari, pit viper, new fucking level.
So I got this collector's...
What are you gonna get Joe to say thank you, you know?
And so there was like a two year waiting list.
And we made it and there's this really cool case
they made it in.
And I've been waiting to figure out,
cause I'm not invited.
And I would love to be invited to give that to him.
Not really for that reason,
but truth is it's in the corner of my vault.
And I would love to be able to get it out of there because his face
is on top of it. And just looking at me every day. He's
just looking at me. Maybe you could put in a word for me.
Yeah, brother. You know him, right? Yeah, I've been on his
podcast a couple of times. We haven't spoken in a while. But
um,
well, maybe he'll see this video Yeah, it may be a small groundswell will say
That he really is not a bad guy. He's an okay guy
He might have some interesting things that you might want to parse out and go deep with the see if he's really full of shit
Because that's what he's asking can you Can Liver King go on your podcast and it'd be
called Joe Rogan Tries to See if He's Full of Shit About Anything? Anything. Anything.
Absolutely anything. And then if you like, you can blood test me, hair test me, or anything
like that too. That would probably be a good podcast. But more than anything, like I just know, in principle, he does most of the tenants.
He does most of the tenants.
A tenant was never to sign your butthole.
I don't know who came up with that one.
He said that he thought that was a tenant, but that's not one.
He actually does most of them, and he talks about liver all the time.
And so, you know, for somebody who's saying
the message with a different name and a different style, you know, a king, a true king never fights
with another man. You know, our fighter archetype, our warrior, we did that. And there's a time and
place out of principle to do it. But then once you're not doing that, alliances are built and
we fight alliances out of principle. And so unbeknownst to Joe, he's been a great alliance
because he does all those things. Oh, I do what Joe does. That's awesome. That's great. Yeah.
I actually, I'm not saying it like I meant it because I'm thinking something else, but the truth is I'm thinking double down on it.
Yeah, so I hope there's a small groundswell
because I wanted to come here
because other people asked me to come
on some really big shows,
and we've done those really big shows,
and you know what you did is you also edited out
almost all of it, all of it. So if it's okay,
I'll probably go to like a real King that I've looked up to and how it turns out
he's close. He's got a beautiful ranch and family.
I left you a message. Hey brother, brother, Buffalo, brother bear,
brother bear, man, is there any, could you have me on your
podcast? You know, oh, I didn't even leave it. I deleted all my contacts. So I left it for someone,
my number two, Adam Trank. He's my number two. He's about to be my number three, because he made a
bad decision. Very bad decision recently. But then I, so I left the message for Adam. Hey, Adam, can
you get in touch with Kyle? I don't have his contact information
Could you send this to him and I just want to say thank you for believing in me when we message back and forth
It's not seemed felt like you believed in me 100% brother
and then you had me on your podcast to be able to
Say the truth and if there's any other truth that you think might be interesting
I'm happy to talk about
it. No it's been awesome brother I want to get to show you guys the land here and hopefully
introduce you to my family. Okay so I always talk like framework in life like what's the better bet
because if there's a plan okay but be flexible what's the better bet and when you have everything
to look forward to is a better bet. You have all this on the horizon.
I forgot what we're about to do and I've seen a taste of what it looks like and I can't
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Can I close with this very small prayer?
Absolutely brother.
This wonderful adventure that we call life on earth, thank you God for right now.
Thank you almighty Father, Son.
Thank you your majesty mother moon, your majesty mother earth.
The sun you warm us, the light for our might, for our fight.
The night, the moon, the rest, the recovered, let's sleep.
Mother Earth, Camasuticus, our clay,
we can pray what matters.
We come from you, we'll return to you.
When for our breath,
that breath, every breath thereafter, the gentle breeze.
Water, thank you for my blood. Thank you for the reflection that we see in you, or mostly
you.
Thank you God for creating us, for our existence.
Thank you to all of the elements that conspire in the cosmos that give us this beautiful
adventure that is life, this podcast today.
I've asked you to show me what I need to see today, reveal to me what I need to feel to
me today, to seal it into me with actual action,
with this kind of action, the expression,
nothing that's planned, nothing that's planned,
but just a walk in your light.
Thank you, God, for the discernment to do
just what matters, nothing that doesn't,
to be profitable with time, to bridge the gap,
to delta to perfect, and to deliver what happened here today,
King time, unexpected grace from Kyle to have me in his house to allow a guy talk
the way that he talks.
Thank you for your grace for allowing me to be here, for welcoming my family that's here.
And we ask that you continue to show us more today, reveal to us more, seal it into us, expression with action.
I would normally say thank you to my family and all this other stuff.
I'm not going to do that because we're finishing the podcast.
Thank you, thank you, thank you. Amen.
Amen.
Is it okay if we ask my wife if there's anything that we didn't cover?
Fuck yeah.
Is there anything we didn't cover. Fuck yeah. Is there anything we didn't cover?
No, like, I didn't want to cover that.
The what?
You know, the interest disaster, quote, unquote,
and that it was our stewardship that's right.
It should be something that right.
Yeah.
Because it was a disaster.
Well, because I made it public.
Because people asked me. I didn't know that it was a thing. And I made it public, because people asked me, I didn't know
that it was a thing, and I made it public. I made that choice. She supported me
through that choice. She feels because of who I am and because of how I actually
treat people that it wasn't fair, and I told her that it's fine. It's one of the greatest gifts that I've ever had is to be called out like that.
You can't ask for that kind of resistance, that kind of emotional resistance.
You normally wouldn't ask for it, but the gift of being able to have it, to navigate through it.
And now you're going to call me a liar?
I'm going to go ahead and just be so free
that I can share with you anything and everything out in the open all of the
time I brought a growth hormone here I was gonna do it if it became time to do
it because I have a bunch of injuries I would just do it on on here if I'm in
the street doing apocalypto and it's time and somebody pulls up to me and they're talking, my alarm goes off, growth hormone.
Yeah.
And to be that free, I wouldn't have had that gift if it weren't for the evil wannabe,
you know, let's destroy somebody, let's, and that kind of resistance, you know, the greater
the fallback, you know, the greater the fallback, you know,
the greater the comeback, the depth at which you go into
something, but go all the way through it, all that blood, all
the sacrifice, own all of it, the depth, you got to build
that back up and be free. So I can be grateful for that. She
wants to really hammer that home. For years, when you
started Liver King, you were just on testosterone cream and growth hormone. She wants to make that really clear. I don't feel like that needs to be
made really clear. I think we kind of said some of that. I believe that's sufficient don't you?
Okay okay. Yeah we're good and if there's any look I'm gonna I'm gonna make my way to Yall's
ranch so I can't wait to come visit you guys. We'll do another one.
This has been fantastic.
Can we do a few quick things?
Yeah, brother.
I say, yeah, yeah, boy.
My family already knows what to do.
I don't think Derrick does, but when I say, yeah, yeah, boy,
afterwards we all say it back, okay?
All right, and we're gonna do three of them.
That's a triple crown.
That means like you did good.
And then after that, we're gonna do three of them. That's a triple crown. That means like you did good. And then after that, we're gonna do closing ceremony.
I'll do liver King and you call it whatever you call yourself
and they'll do it.
Then Derek will go last.
Well, we might have to do it twice,
but let's do it right now.
Yeah, yeah boy.
Yeah, yeah boy.
Yeah, yeah boy.
Yeah, yeah boy.
Yeah, yeah boy.
Yeah, yeah boy.
Liver King, King's Boo.
Rapper Barbarian.
Okay, that's a wrap, brother.
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