Kyle Kingsbury Podcast - #428 Exploring Consciousness, Spiritual Wisdom & Cosmic Cycles w/ Edmund Knighton

Episode Date: October 18, 2025

In this podcast, the Kyle welcomes Edmund Knighton, a guest known for his deep understanding of the teachings of The Law of One and Rudolf Steiner. Knighton's journey with spirituality is shared, including his awakening, transformative experiences, and integration of Steiner's and Ra's teachings. The discussion also delves into the significance of the seven-year life cycles according to Steiner, the concept of harvest from The Law of One, the polarization of service to self versus service to others, and the implications of modern disruptions on spiritual growth. In addition, Knighton touches on current spiritual practices, community building, and teaching initiatives, emphasizing the importance of self-initiation, wisdom, and love.   Connect with Edmund here: Website Edmund is co-host of Being Human, along with Be Here Farm + Nature founder, Jared Pickard.  Being Human is 12 weeks of community-supported self mastery and spiritual growth featuring 12 Visiting Masters from a wide range of fields, including Kyle Kingsbury, Joel Salatin, Del Bigtree, Asha Nayaswami, Gabby Reece, and more.  Full details on the 2026 season can be found at tinyurl.com/beinghuman2026.  Enrollment is open now.   From Kyle: The Community is coming! Click here to learn more   Our Sponsors: Let’s level up your nicotine routine with Lucy. Go to Lucy.co/KKP and use promo code (KKP) to get 20% off your first order. Lucy offers FREE SHIPPING and has a 30-day refund policy if you change your mind. These are the b3 bands I was talking about. They are amazing, I highly recommend incorporating them into your movement practice. To SUPERCHARGE YOUR STEM CELLS, go to qualialife.com/kyle15 for up to 50% off, and use code KYLE15 for an additional 15%. If there’s ONE MINERAL you should be worried about not getting enough of... it’s MAGNESIUM. Head to http://www.bioptimizers.com/kingsbu now and use code KINGSBU to claim your 15% discount.   Connect with Kyle: I'm back on Instagram, come say hey @kylekingsbu Twitter: @kingsbu Our Farm Initiative: @gardenersofeden.earth Odysee: odysee.com/@KyleKingsburypod Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@Kyle-Kingsbury Kyle's Website: www.kingsbu.com - Gardeners of Eden site If you enjoyed this podcast, please subscribe & leave a 5-star review with your thoughts!

Welcome to today's podcast. We have a very special guest, Edmund Knighton. I first heard of Edmund on Paul Check's Spirit Gym podcast. He's been on there a few times. He's also been on the corrective culture podcast from a couple of my Australian buddies. And Jared Picard had introduced us. They had a really cool event here in Austin that he was going to be a part of. And I was going to be a part of as well.

Unfortunately, I couldn't make it. But he said, they still want me to podcast to them. And I said, absolutely. So this podcast is fantastic. Edmund is the first person I've ever come across with I shouldn't say first because I've interviewed check so many times, but he has a brilliant distillation of the teachings of Ra from the law of one and as well as the teachings of Rudolph Steiner.

Now, either one of those would be reason enough to come on the podcast, but the fact that he's really taken both of these and systematically seen where they line up together and what maybe some of the differences are between them, he really has a deep gnosis of what Steiner and Ra were teaching, which in my opinion is a life's work. You could spend your life unpacking the law, one you could spend your life unpacking rudolph steiner and neither one would be a waste edmund has

really got a lot of alchemy with both of these and a lot of nois and so he is uh incredibly eloquent he has an awesome story i left my ass off hearing about this dude in college because in many ways that was me and he's just got such a funny awesome loving personality who really does know his shit and he also you know as opposed to many spiritual people has not shied away from the darkness what is actually happening in the world, which is great because we dive into that too. But many paths here are leading us in the same direction. And so I just feel super privileged to be able to have a podcast with Edmund. Edmund is co-host of Being Human, along with Be Here Farm and Nature founder Jared Picard.

Jared's been on the podcast as well as his brother Jason. Being Human is 12 weeks of community-supported self-mastery and spiritual growth, featuring 12 visiting masters from wide range of fields, including Kyle Kingsbury, Joel Salatin, Del Bigtree, Asha Nagaswamy, Gabi Reese, my homie Gabby, and more. Full details on the 2026 season can be found at the website I have put at the top of the show notes. So check that out. Enrollment is open now. Edmund also offers transformative private coaching and spiritual counseling for individuals, couples, and groups.

Contact Edmund at Edmundnightin.com. So we've got that link in the show notes. Share this thing far and wide. And you got any questions? You got the email for Edmund. And this actually turned me way back on to deep diving the law of one. I just finished the first book and I'm diving into book two right now. And I'm very excited.

I mean, it actually makes sense. I just did a post on this on the potential coincidence of the rapture. We had a lot of Christians talking about the rapture September 23rd and all the things that point to that in movies and film and TV shows, which is odd in it of itself, but that's part of the parcel of the world we live in, along with the harvest, which is a teaching of every 75,000 years. There's a spiritual harvest, and that comes from the law of one. So they'll seem pretty coincidental, don't they?

Well, we talk about that and more. All right, guys, I leave it to you. Edmund Knighton, welcome to the podcast. Thank you, Kyle. Thank you very much. I feel very blessed to have... I'm certain Paul sent out an email connecting us in the past where he was saying, like, hey,

you're trying to get you on other podcasts and things like that, but it wasn't until I got the push from Jared Picard. saying you were going to be in town and I was like oh absolutely face-to-face is always better yeah this will be great and just as I promise you know I started rabbit holding a bunch of your podcasts and the thing that caught me initially at least as as Jared pointed out he said if paul check was in a spiritual crisis edmund night would be the person he'd call first and I was like damn that's saying something you know like when you really think about as as much as Paul studied and as much of his life that he's he's alchemized into positive you know

It said a lot, so that's high praise. I didn't realize that. Yeah, I was like, damn, dude, that says a lot. I haven't gotten the call yet, so he must be doing all right. I think he's doing all right. But yeah, you know, the conversation that I've heard, a lot of them circled around Steiner and Raw, the Law of One. I had a great conversation recently with Alex Zek, who's a big law of one guy. And so these things just keep percolating and recycling back up.

and I have a certain sense of they're ever present, but the teachings keep coming up because there's more to digest. There's more to learn from. There's more to incorporate into our lives right now. And I think that that's why you hear about something from three different people. And it's like, oh, okay, there's something there. And so, you know, I definitely want to dive deeply into those topics because you have a wealth of knowledge there and a wealth of knowledge in other places.

But I'd love to get your background, your life growing up. What led you to becoming the person that you are? And you've got some fantastic stories that I've heard on Paul's. So do not hold those back here. We may have some crossovers and people that listen to both, but we can appeal to the people listening for the first time. Yeah. Gosh.

Not dead yet. I like that. That's my favorite Monty Python line. I'm not dead yet. That's a great way to start. You know, I feel in the beginning part of my life, probably it'd be ideal not to share any way that I shared with Paul, but really to start with me actually waking up. And then I could go backward and, you know, look to why all of a sudden,

oh, that makes sense why I'm waking up now. So the waking up moment was on a moon node return, about 18.6 years old. And I'd flunked out of college. I had, dealt drugs. I had everything stolen from me. I had my parents disowned me and called the police on me. And so I was, I was just basically, you know, had a real opportunity to be alone in the world and very sad. And I realized that I had kind of in that first year of college, it was a place called New College in South Florida and Sarasota. I just had kind of a freak out moment, but it was a whole year, you know, where it was like, sex, hacky sack, beer on the beach.

We had these amazing parties called wall parties that was in the, IMPA was this amazing architect who designed the structure of New College. And it was a royal palms and a palm court, so it was just gorgeous. And then huge, all balconied, everybody had a balcony. So all the students had a balcony, or almost all of them, that faced the palm court. So you could, it was like being in Egypt or something. It was like being a pharaoh, just overlooking this beautiful music, beautiful young people. And this was the mid-80s.

And I was just completely taken by that. And I wasn't capable of really having a relationship with a woman. I wouldn't say I was capable of being a friend to any man either. And I knew myself least of all. And so I just lost it. just tried. I tried every, I'm a real, I would say I'm a, you know, an astronaut. I like to go places. So I tried every substance available. And at that point in the 80s, there was a there was a guy named Rick Doblin, who was a fellow student there. And so he had a place right

next door and a send step tank, and he got the purest, everything. And, you know, I fell in love with all kinds of things. And, you know, I mean, just, it was so beautiful. Because I had had a life where it was pretty challenging growing up. I had eight different marriages with my parents. They had four different partners. And so I realized in hindsight that I had an opportunity to figure out how not to do it in just about every way possible. So from whether it's physical or sexual or emotional or emotional or mental abuse, I got to see the pain of all that. I got to experience some of those things.

And in hindsight, it all makes sense because then I ended up moving into being a family therapist and working with individuals because, you know, like 60% of marriages are on the rocks or don't make it now. And that's, you know, for me, I just go, that's unacceptable. If I can support, I'd like to.

So that's a big part of my heart is doing that work now. But that wake-up moment came at the end of that, hayride of all the drugs and just feeling like I was like top guy following the dead around going through Mexico all I just all kinds of experiences and finally I just decided I'm going to I'm going to face all this so I wrote to my parents and I said hey you know I realized that I was a little bit out of line you know going home with 100 hits LSD and big old box MDMA and you know I've got uh we have there's eight kids and our family. So, you know, I was like, you know, the younger ones idolized me. So, like, that was

not a good thing for, for that. So, yeah, so literally they called the police and I fled the state and then I just followed the dead around. And I finally, I came back around and I reapplied to new college and I thought, I need to go back to school now. And they, I mean, surprisingly, they let me in because there was a worn out from my arrest. And there was a guy who was a cop there from New York Patty was his name and he would just look at me as he goes I know you're dealing

I'm gonna get you which was a little unsettling you know so he followed me around but I ended up reapplying and before I got in I started working at an organic farm and the guy that owned it was he's a character

let's just say like those guys at New College were all off the charts brilliant intellectually but I just between intellect and intelligence. A lot of them weren't actually very intelligent, which I would say includes the heart. And so their intellect was runaway.

It just blew me well. I was far beyond anything I could ever achieve in this lifetime, the way that they spoke to each other and to professors and their capacity. But I recognized what unbridled intellect has done to the planet. And so a lot of them, I think, used so much in terms of mind-altering substances because it was a boring to be on this planet in a lot of ways. They were psychonauts themselves. They wanted to explore the farthest reaches. And it was just fun. It was just fun. And when you're that age, you're invincible.

Yeah. I just feel like there's nothing that can be in your way or stop you. And so I went out on that farm and we were growing such delicious food that before I knew it, I wasn't like I was trying to. I just started eating watermelon. And the watermelon was this just gorgeous yellow fleshed and red flesh melon. And back then, it was just just becoming popular in the 80s, this whole movement of organics and like these mini organics, this crazy stuff. They were selling for like $36 a pound in the stores. It was really weird. But as farmers, we got $6 a pound. So that's how that rolled And I found all the sudden

I'm just eating watermelon and I'm eating the whole thing I'm eating the rind and everything Just eating it You know just right in the field And I got in touch with my My animal soul you know I felt I felt I was a plant I felt connected to

I almost I almost felt like I could eat the soil In a way you could have Because it was it was This guy gray he put he put fish emulsion in there and kelp the soil was delicious and you could see it you could smell it um and so i all the sudden i just these these earlier kingdoms that i am a part of i felt like i am really connected to these things um and the energy level i had and then the intuition that was opening everything was just the sensitivity that i had and and so i i couldn't live in the

in Sarasota anymore. So I started living out on the land. So I just started living in the woods there by myself. So they would all go home at the end of the day. And I just, I spent a couple of seasons there. And after I, after I realized I'd been eating watermelon for many months, I recognize like in some, in some way, this is the future for all of us. The, the level of energy that I have, the whole protein myth, when food is not just energized, but when it's vitalized, when it has spiritual energy in it because of the intention of the growers, when the land is given so much love that it becomes an individual itself and it begins to speak to you, that's where we're headed.

And I realize this is something that I need to find a way toward, and how do I do that? And just at that time, there was a guy who came out and we used to love to listen to Kate Bush together, he and I. He had some bootleg tapes and stuff from concerts, and kept telling me, you got to meet the chief, got to meet the chief, got to meet the chief. I'm like, what the fuck? The chief. Who is this bozo? Tell me about this other bozo. Like, we're so far beyond gurus now. And, you know, especially because I had sort of a taste of self-initiation at that point because of the farming and the land. I was starting to remember who I am.

But finally, I just went and I met this guy. He's just the sweetest man ever. And yet you could see, like, you're never going to push this guy around, like ever. Not mentally, not physically, not spiritually. He is who he is. And I thought, well, this is what it looks like to be awake. Is somebody who is so sweet, so gentle, so humble. and so transparent

and just this big belly laugh and so I said yeah this is this is the real deal and he was the guy who introduced me to Law of One because he was basically consciously channeling through the Law of One he's a high six density

being himself and so he was yeah getting yeah just getting a little sacred moment here so he did this thing called counsel where we sat together, like you and I are sitting here now, just drop it in. And what he does is he

aligns, he asks permission from me and of connecting his higher self to my higher self. He aligns and balances our chakras with me, again, always with sovereignty, with my permission. And then we dropped in together and we just start having a so bet. We just have, you know, one of the most natural, normal, organic conversations you could imagine. And within moments, his body disappeared and then his face disappeared. And then this luminescent eye took over the whole space that was in front of me and just shooting like lightning gold all around him. And the eye was then ensconced in the apex of a pyramid. And again, that would seem to be something that might be unnerving or you'd think, But this is the thing.

What I'm realizing around who we are, who we actually are, is it felt like the most normal thing in the world. And I just said to him, you know, your body disappeared and all I see is an eye at the top of a pyramid. And he said, oh, yeah, I'd like to introduce you to my guides now, now that you can see. And I'm realizing that our opportunity together as people on this planet is to help each other remember and confirm things that we actually all. all already know. There isn't anything new under the sun. It's just how do we open and remember the parts and sort of get on with it, you know, move forward with the work. And so that's what I was saying to you that then I was able to reflect back on all those earlier years. And he just, he shared with me, one of the things he shared from my higher self. And this is, this is a fun way to

communicate with people as higher self to higher self. And what permission do you have? For example, What permission do I have from your higher self to share together? That I chose a life until I met with him to basically be ungrounded, to look at myself from above myself and to watch a human being very closely, but not to be in my body. And that I did that in order to have an opportunity to consciously inhabit a human body as an adult. And that started my path to working with children. through Steiner's work because he had a, he, more than anything else, it's a, it's a very

conscious developmental progression of how to incarnate from the top of the crown all the way down through the toes. And most people don't know that. Most Waldorf teachers don't work with that. They don't actually have any concept that there's an archetypal quality moving through each of the grades, for example, and that each one of those qualities has a particular movement associated with it, a signature movement. And if you're in touch with that, then it's, that gives you sort of the tone or the note in the orchestra of that child putting her being together, putting her inner symphony together.

And then teaching just becomes so wonderful. It's amazing then. It's never boring. It's not about getting 10 points, right? It's not about grabbing the ball away. from the other guy, it's about how do we become more noble as human beings with every movement we make? How do we make every movement help us to become more who we are? You know? And so that's that's the life I moved into after that with the chief is working with kids. And I never,

never wanted to have kids, never wanted to have babies or a wife or anything. I just thought, that just sounds like anathema to me. Why would I do that? You know, this planet's tough. enough to be on, you know, why add a kid to it and why shackle myself? And he's like, well, you know, why don't you get a cat? And I'm like, I don't like animals. So at that point, I just really eschewed anything that was, that I thought would hamper my freedom. So I had a picture of freedom that it was, I think I had a limited picture of how beautiful freedom can be, that freedom is the responsibility of making choices. And you're free to make those choices. And then, you're you're on a path.

And so it's not just I get to do what I want when I want. That's not freedom. That's just chaos. And I had been there. I figured that one out. So does that give you a little piece? Yeah, that's phenomenal. I'm trying to think of where to start because, you know, there's part of me with, as we spoke

before, you know, Bear was in Waldorf for a year, loved it until COVID and, you know, the powers that be deciding we're going to follow CDC guidelines, left that at a Waldorf offshoot with teachers and friends from Walldorf. And got to meet some awesome people, Dale Bigtree, Tucker Max, Mickey Willis, the Vanderbeeks, just great, great people, you know, they were still friends. But that went for about a year. And then, you know, my wife was homeschooled up until high school. Then she went to high school to run. Okay.

And ended up running for NAU, cross country, really good, solid runner. I had never experienced anything like that. But I had, you know, every, you know, homeschooling now and seeing, you know, what homeschool parents say, like, my public school education. was not one that did me well right you know it wasn't something i agreed with it wasn't something you know if i was born a decade later i'd have been on pills yeah like that kind of you know couldn't sit still didn't you know it was constantly saying shit to just be disruptive to kind of steer the course and have some control um all all the things you know when it comes to that and so we decided if we were going to try uh homeschooling we should try in his third year of kindergarten

it's not like he needs a third year and now i understand you know you the woldorf style you got you know the two grades below you you know the two grades below you you know the two grades above you. You get to be, you know, the beginner. You get to be in the middle and you get to be the eldest that guide the younger ones. I loved that. You know, I'd like that. Um, what we said, let's, let's give it a year and see how this works and, um, you know, nothing wrong with keeping him another year in kindergarten anyways if we needed to, you know, and so like, diving into Leonard Sachs's work and things like that, uh, who wrote a few great books, boys had drift, girls on the edge and the collapse of parenting. Yeah. They'd really talk about

how that benefits boys in the modern day, but we, it's been bumpy, but, you know, bears taken off and following kind of the Waldorf style mixed with a little bit of deschooling society you know he bears off to the races in math and things that he really enjoys and we're just kind of holding him to creative writing and things that he doesn't enjoy like hey let's just let's find a way to make this work yeah but he loves violin and you know we didn't rush him at all on reading or anything like that for obvious reasons Snyder talks about I'd love for you to break down I think for people that are maybe the first time hearing some of the stuff, you know, talk about these seven-year cycles that take place and, you know, the importance

of what Steiner understood and why you don't force a kid to read super young and things like that. And yeah, yeah, and we'll take it from there. There's plenty of, I want to, there's plenty of unpacking about. Yeah. Let's start with some of those, I think that's a super important, especially as we get older, because we're still going. I just turned, I'm 43.

So now in my 42 to 49 year. Yeah, right. I'd love for you to break that down, too, because I think this stuff keeps becoming more and more apparent to me as important. you know, understand the cycles of time. All right, guys, quick break to tell you about what I've been up to. This year has been a year of transition for me with a fit for service making huge changes. I've been working to create my own community.

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interest you peep the link in the show notes for the community and we will get you guys locked in all right back to the podcast so i mean from a sort of a a bird's eye view looking at those seven cycles takes us to um well i mean there's there's there's seven years cycles it takes us to to 63 in a certain way in the last three sets of three years so 21 years 42 to 49 Mars 49 to 56, Jupiter, 56 to 63, Saturn. And then at the 63 mark, there's a kind of a recapitulation as a step toward freedom until the age of 70. And this is why in most cultures, during this time, that's the time to give back for those who have established medicine within their community, you know, who are able to, if you see the pictures of the elders, they have hands usually like this in a blessing gesture. And so they offer back the blessings of the fruits that they've harvested.

And that's because if they've consciously moved through these seven-year cycles, basically you're moving through the harmony of the spheres. You're moving through what's called the wandering stars or the planets. And so as human beings, we come in, and the moment we come in, the stars at that moment imprint themselves on our skull. And so you're carrying a blueprint of the moment. moment of your birth in your crown right now. And those stars are the guide because it's both the fixed stars, the constellations, and then the wandering stars that had a particular moment.

And you chose that moment because you had a signature of this is what I want to be able to offer. And when the stars line up, I'm coming. And so those first seven years is a connection really with the fecundity forces, moon forces of the body is actually growing. And so the idea is that, of course, the teachers are the first parents, right? So that whoever the caregiver is or the parent, we're all teachers to our children. But the cool thing is also that we were taught by our parents, and so we learned from them. but if we're smart and awake then we can unlearn from our children all the things that our parents taught us and we can undo those generations and we can actually move backwards through time and heal all of that

we can re-step all of that for our ancestors through our children yeah that's massive that's something just getting into like the my medicine journey was similar to yours and that I was a party animal started drinking at 13. Didn't really do more than alcohol in high school, but once I got to, you know, junior college and then Arizona State was the number one party school in the nation was kind of all bets are off. Yeah.

I feel very fortunate. You know, I had a handful of medicine journeys that just dumb luck, you know, like no, no set in setting, no like real container for it other than Sedona itself. Like, oh, I broke through here by pure luck in the grace of God. But then my boxing coach when I got an MMA was a medicine. a man and a mixed as tech and Mexican and he would take me for sweat lodges and things like that and started to teach me about respect and reverence and how to set you know a proper setting

and he guided me through my first handful of journeys with psilocybin and ayahuasca but um you know even in that like it's it's that road of of wanting to get after it and like I'm gonna burn it you know my butt both ends like don't give a shit and in the middle going for it exactly yeah and then and then kind of finding this other space of like holy shit this is possible you know like it started along with his teachings of indigenous wisdom started to seep in so that it became more palatable it actually became more of reality when someone would talk about healing seven generations before us and and seven generations forward and even thinking seven generations ahead yeah right i think there's the i don't know if it's if it's zen but they talk about when a man

plants a tree knowing he'll never enjoy the shade of that tree but that he does it for the next generation then he's finally understanding the meaning of life right yeah i love that especially being here and, you know, we put 400 fruit and nut trees in with, with our buddy, Chad Johnson. And since that, you know, once our house finished, you know, we've been just planted every year. We'll put 10 new trees in the ground, bushes just for the deer, you know, flowering plants, just for the bees. Yeah. And it's obsession. Like, I love that, that contact.

But that is part of that, you know, thinking along those lines. There's very few things that really connect me that way. It's kind of hard to imagine, knowing how short our lifespans are to even think seven generations. But if we think about it through land and the connection with nature, it actually feels a little bit more palatable to me. Yeah. But, yeah, I wanted to fill you my own little psychonautic journey kind of led me into understanding those things better than, you know,

from a book or from a person, but, you know, realizing that for the first time. Yeah. Yeah. So I can kind of take you into, after that imprint and you being, as a parent, the first teacher, what happens in each one of these seven-year periods, and this is also not very well known by most folks in Waldorf is that there are three divided periods within there. And so the first stage of this physical development actually has a head period of the first two and a half years, two and a half to three years, a heart period of the next three years.

So there's the feeling life of that seven year period and then the will life. And if you look at the first seven years of the child, you can see that. The first three years, for example, the first year the child comes upright and moves from the horizontal to the upright vertical, and that's what allows us to think in consciousness and become self-conscious. She isn't able to do that yet in the first year, but that uprightness is a movement toward it. And then in the second step, so there's this ability to be upright, this ability to be upright, this ability for speech comes very clearly in the second year

and the idea is in the beginning was the word that actually this tone, the vibration creates all things especially from Sanskrit from Hebrew all of these individuals know that when you sound the right tone in Sanskrit they're mostly vowels which is the feeling life in Hebrew mostly consonants so it's a structured physical body life the child has a kind of an infinite connection to that

and then in year three there's this flash of being able to know I am an I the child says I for the first time there's this quality of thinking that comes in and now we're totally distinguished from the animal realm oftentimes memory will begin at that point and with memory also comes to loss of this infinite capacity that the child had in the first three three years. And those three years are recapitulated in the master that some people call Christ,

others just call the Christ principle. Many religions call it different things. That 30 to 33 time that the Christ incarnated was a recapitulation of that on a macro level as a picture for what we all have inside of us, this Master Christ impulse. And children reflect that unconscious. that master was able to incarnate in that Jesus body and do it consciously before he tore that body to shreds, you know. It was only possible to be in that body for three years because of the level of the vibration. It was disintegrating. And so that was the path. That was the opportunity to go through as a being at that level who never experienced life.

the heavy level of density here and distortion and illusion to show that it could be done and to offer fructification for the earth so that it continues and actually can become a star, can become a sun in its own right and it will. Yeah, talk a bit about that

the imprinting of Christ's consciousness and the Gaia itself. The Christ principle inhabited the sun. And when we say the sun, there are so many different aspects of the sun. It's like aspects of you, right? There's your physical, you're energetic, your emotional, your thought, your spirit. There was a certain spiritual level of the sun. The invisible sun is usually what it's called, that that principle inhabited.

And was, it's the lowest, if you imagine the highest level of your body being the highest spirit of yourself you could imagine, intuition, for example. that was the lowest level of that being that was like the corollary would be your physical body seven levels lower would be his his lowest body would be your highest body so he experienced intuition almost as a physical existence and he was willing to make the sacrifice to in a way impregnate Gaia inhabit the planet because at the time that he came we were at the time of greatest is sort of the bottom of the bowl of materialism and a little bit of a recapitulation of what William Casey, who was the director of the CIA in 1981, said, you know, once all of the populace of America understands as 100% gospel and truth, everything that we say, it's actually 100% lies, we'll have achieved our objective. That was the same that was happening in year zero with the sadducees and the pharisees you know they had co-opted and corrupted and uh distracted you know squirrel uh enough to have people feel like they needed something outside of themselves

at all times in order to progress and this individual came as the possibility to say all of this is possible for you and you no longer need a guru to do it you don't need a hierophant you don't need to be buried alive for three and a half days. You do need consciousness, but that's all you need. And you need love. And so if you combine that wisdom and that love together, this is what's possible. And he never healed anyone. It's not possible to heal another person. They healed themselves because of their own faith in their own creator. He was simply a mirror to say, yeah, it's possible. And whatever he healed, he always said, tell no one, because this isn't about gurus. and it'll be a loss because people will feel that I've done something, and that's a lie.

I actually haven't done anything. I've simply been here as a brother. And so him coming, and that actual, the crucifixion, if you will, was an opportunity for him. I mean, we can get a little bit more. So it might be helpful just to have the context that the Semitic tribes, over 42 generations, generations had to build the perfect physical body, perfect enough. Nothing's perfect, but perfect enough to where this Christ being could inhabit it. And not just build the physical body, but then the etheric or energy body had to be incorruptible. And this is the same energy

body that St. Francis accessed, Teresa of Avala, the saints who got to a certain level through pain and through a lot of suffering, but then understanding evolved out of that, to wear that body, like a cloth, like a garment. These were the bodies that actually formed the Christ. The Nermanichaya body of the Buddha, who came before Christ. Buddha developed that body in a way so that Christ could inhabit that. Zarathustra's eye being, his consciousness, his capacity as an incredibly high initiate, Zarathustra, there were actually two Jesus children.

And one of them died, and this is why all of a sudden, 12, Jesus is speaking in the temple and knows more than the rabbis. The two Jesus is, one of them was a heart being Jesus, and the other was a very, very high being, but carrying the Zarathusta ego. So that being sacrificed, its progression in order to offer that, and the two beings then were able to be. I mean, there's so much more in heaven on earth than our imaginations have dreamed of. And so when that took place, then Christ was a able to travel to different continents and to engage all of the ancient shamanistic practices, wican practices, any esoteric wisdom that was being practiced anywhere, all of the power

dreamers, basically all over the planet. He amalgamated that, synthesized that to create something new out of it, and that enabled then the capacity for this Christ being to enter and for this entry into the earth upon his death, the power of blood, Steiner talks about blood as being an incredibly special fluid is actually the highest sense organ that we have. The heart is the second highest. And so because the blood is a monitor,

it's checking on everything all the time and regulating it. And so the capacity that Christ had was to penetrate the secrets of the human skeleton unconsciously. Now we only tend to do that when we get bone cancer and it's we're sort of distracted at that point. So in health he was able to do that and that was the task is to how do I penetrate the whole body down to the bones down to the structure and then okay from a micro level now I can transfer that understanding which is basically love infinite compassion to in a way making love to a planet. So that

principle has enough capacity that it can love and love right through a planet in order to reenliven that planet to impregnate. And we as the human race then have the capacity because of that, because we are part of the earth, certainly from all of the bodies that we carry while we're incarnate. Our spirit is from elsewhere, but we can carry that further. and it's our opportunity to do so. And so that was the real reason. It's not dying for sins. And for Steiner, he defines sin as something that's out of time or out of place.

Like missing the mark. Yeah. Like holding a smile too long. Like, what's this look like after about five seconds? I'm thinking of an Instagram video. My wife always sends me where, you know, the guy responds in an incorrect way. You're like, enjoy your coffee at the drive-thor. He goes, you too.

And then he just repeats it as he's driving. you too you too and then pulls and drives out the road yeah yeah yeah out of embarrassment yeah yeah it's like out of time out of step out of rhythm and part of what the intellect is able to do that the animal kingdom can't do is to take itself out of time out of step out of rhythm and that's why human beings are able to have trauma and animals can't because animals don't have a prefrontal cortex to interrupt the nervous system to break the circuitry so if you you're riding down the street and you pull off the edge and you tumble, you have the freedom. This is the part of free will to interrupt whatever the body is naturally wanting to do,

which is generally to shake or to scream or to run or to pound something. You know, it needs to complete whatever the activation has occurred. And what tends to happen then is the neocortex takes over and loops it and we call that trauma. But all it really is is an absence of moving through the nervous system, which Steiner says is the most spiritual system of the human being, because it's basically empty. It's an all or non-action potential where something fires or it doesn't. And we're blocking. We're creating blockages in that. So then our consciousness is impeded once it comes into the body.

It's unimpeded outside. And so that's the opportunity is to, the way Steiner would say it, is to take bodily and psychic obstacles out of the way to help the child remove those obstacles for itself through childhood so that it doesn't have to do it in adulthood. And there's a pedagogical law for that. So what that basically means is the zero to seven time to return to that. And we could spend a whole time on the seven-year cycles.

You are educating as a parent and also as the teacher when they come to the parent-taught group or the Kendi group, you know, the nursery group, you're educating with your etheric body, which is also a life body or a habit body, a vitality body, energy body that's more subtle and continually forms and reforms the physical body. That body of yours is the one that's educating that child. It's not anything that you say. Whatever you say is mirroring the vitality body and helping to form and reform that child

and helping her and him to assume their own bodily form and become unique and not look like you, not talk like you, not act like you. And then when you move into the 7 to 14, which is the elementary school time, your feeling body or your sentient body, your astral body, which is the starry body, it educates the etheric body. So it educates the habit body of the child. So the most important thing for an elementary school teacher is to have clear, sense of feeling for the world. And it's like a feeling thinking. It's hard to describe. But that's where intelligence comes in. The child becomes the curriculum. You're paying attention to what you're

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Lucy.com slash KKP for 20% off. Dr. Thomas Cowan came on the podcast not long ago, and he was talking about deschooling society and a bunch of, you know, former Waldorf teachers who had decided just to be homeschooled teachers or teach a small group. PODs. Yep. Yeah, little pods. And how one had four students

between the ages of 10 and 12. None of them could read or write, all between 10 and 12. Yeah. But finally, had a desire to learn. And all four of those kids within two years had surpassed in every way of judging. Yes.

It had surpassed everyone in their grade level within two years. Yep. That's just wild to think about. Because at that point, there was a legitimate buy-in. They wanted to know at that point. They were ready to learn. That's it.

And I think that's such a huge piece for us right now. I have to remind myself with that with bear. Yes. You know, like there's... When they're ripe, and this is the thing, you know, it's like, what's our connection to the plant world? When do we flower? Right.

When do we bloom and blossom? And then when do we actually bear fruit? And so when a child is really ripe for something, then they understand it as if they've always understood it and they love it for a lifetime. We've learned this about sports. There's been a lot of research around, we've got this whole thing, especially in America, earlier is better and more is better, right? It's a very materialistic thinking. And one of the guys that I worked with actually wrote a book on this, that the later that you move into so-called organized sport, the more propensity you have to be better at it, to be more graceful, and to have it for a lifetime.

Whereas kids who come in at four or five or six years old and are every day being chauffeur. by the parents, God bless them, and they are limited in their space and limited in their time, because that's really what sport is. They tend to lose the capacity for creative play because it's like, no, this is what we have to do. This is the way it is. So they learn discipline in early age, but this is the difference between an Athenian way of being and a Spartan way of being. The Spartans, through the kids in ice cold water when they were three, and hopefully they swim. The Athenians understood there's a developmental progression here and we look for ripeness. We look for when this child all of a sudden is, boom, opens up. I'll give you an example.

I got a kid with Down syndrome and autism. He last year tested at the first grade level for reading and the reading specialist wouldn't even work with him. She just, you know, boop went on, like not really ready for anything. And so there was a lot of hesitance on all of our parts, you know, for all kinds of reasons, like to even go back and do this thing again. So this year he comes, this is last week. He reads the one, he reads two, he reads three, he reads four, he reads five, and he reads half a six. How old is he? He's 14.

Kid with Down syndrome, kid with autism. We're not even talking. Normal intellectual development has skipped five grade levels. In a year. In a year. That is wild. And he's done, let me be clear, he's done nothing. It's not like, oh, let's take him to Evelyn Wood.

You know, let's take him to a reading special. It's like, how about let's keep on rolling and climbing mountains? How about let's keep on swimming in that ice cold Lake Ponderay? Yeah. You know, how about keep loving each other? Yeah. How about touch every night, prayer every night, singing, every night, stories, every night. That's me with my boy every night.

And every morning cuddling and same, you know, same thing. Gratitude for the day. gratitude for for everything we have I love that I heard you talking to a on one of the podcasts leading up to this thing was the corrective culture guys about how you've embodied some of the you know each of us as a male has the feminine outer presence you know and how your wife has some of that masculine energy but how you took that on early on with your son to touch to love and I that's something a gift that I got from my father was he'd always give me massages he'd always hold me to always wrestle you know awesome I get football games on TV and I'm

like let's turn that off and go outside and throw it's playoffs sure you didn't even not even an argument turns it off goes outside to throw the football yeah and so i've loved that with both my kids and you can see like they're they're they're little rambunctious but that's the same same deal is just the you know snuggling on a biomat while we read and tell stories and and yeah um you know getting them to open up with starting to say their own prayers and just thinking about this kind of comes a little robotic at first or sounds like somebody else's And now I can see that it's coming from them. And you can see, like, what are the things they actually are grateful for?

And what are the ways they see their own blessings? I want to shift gears here because this has been perfect on Steiner. And Christ has come. It's increasingly important because I'm going to talk some dark shit here in the second. But something I've been thinking about. It's funny how many people, you know, and it's just weird, to be honest, all the Hollywood movies that said September 23rd was, was the day, you know, Day of Reckon, right? Revelation, whatever. The, you know, beam me up, Scotty.

but it's in the comedy what's it called this is the end this is the end which is a comedy and they have that in the number 23

with Jim Carrey and there's like a dozen movies that all point to this is the last day on earth and you know something that

when I think of things like that because I love and I think we are forever in a state of death and renewal of a state of birth and a state of collapse and cyclically

it makes sense that some of these big moments you know as we move through the the horoscope that that actually do make shifts and thinking of like the great ear and things like that you know like something I loved in the law of one was this time of harvest

and any time I hear Christians talk about revelate you know at the end of the and I'm like dude that the rapture that's the harvest yeah like those things I see those is spot on exact same language so I'd love for you to break that down what is the harvest what is the point what are the two paths in which people can take because it helps me

as I see evil to remind myself that all is serving one, right? And I like that you put it that way, right? There is the path of service to self and there's the path to service to all. But break some of these concepts down from the law of one.

I think they're very important. Okay. Let's just make sure there's a third path. Okay. And that's not to make a choice and to continue to live and sleep and comfort. That's right, yeah. And that path is the path

that many on the planet are still choosing to take, if you will. They may not even be conscious at this point because they've become so anesthetized and numbed to it. Right, what people might call a non-player character, MPC, right? Yeah, yeah. Just a muggle, somebody who's in, you know, their own space. They're in their own space.

Their world revolves around fantasy football, and this is not sorry for the fantasy football players, but, you know, like everything they take as like, this is what drives me, this is what I'm attracted to, you know, it's mostly video games, finite games, games, games within games, right? Yeah, and creation is benevolent. it's kind. And so for as long as you feel you need to do that, since there's no time anyway, it's not a problem. There's nothing that gets used up. And those beings then are the ones that a lot of folks who have chosen to take a service to others' path feel attracted to come to this planet and to see if those individuals want some support. But we're powerless to do anything

about it because of a law of free will or confusion, because of a veil that says if these beings don't make a call consciously or unconsciously for your support, then you can do nothing, otherwise you're infringing. And you can actually lose polarity. You can lose your own movement toward the positive by that lack of wisdom, which is usually, you know, it's out of a sense of wanting to help, but the understanding is you actually can't help anyone and you can't heal anyone. And once you're freed from that illusion, first of all, I can just take a deep breath and you can relax and you realize actually I'm just here to radiate love to all of creation and if anybody you know wants to figure out like what the hell is that guy doing then they'll ask

and if they don't then they don't and so that's that's what I would say would be a daily practice for those who who have come to the planet to say I'd like to be able to offer myself in that way is to radiate that the moment contains love. And every moment, no matter how evil, those who serve themselves, those who say self-love is the path and genuinely believe it and work with a highly disciplined manner to achieve it,

I say to them, that's laudable because you've chosen a path and it's impossible not to serve the creator. It's impossible not to serve creation. And you're serving it more strongly than those who are in the middle who haven't chosen. So we look a lot at the few,

and by the way, that's very few. We're talking about one or two percent on the planet are actively working this path. They get a lot of press because they control it. So don't be fooled that, you know, one or two percent, and we talk about the one percent, has anything to do with the 99 percent.

Those individuals have already garnered, reservations on a planet that focuses on top dog who's the apex predator and that's great go for it but it's built on a system of limitation it's built on control which underlying all of that is fear and you know for me i just look at that and i say isn't it wonderful that they're practicing this path on the planet so that the rest of us can see that and get really clear what parts of me are still selfish that I thought I was giving a million bucks to this charity because I'm completely selfless and but all of a sudden I realized there's a thought form that's in my head that says look at me go I'm the shit whatever it is and how do we then eat our eat crow on that and reverse that

for ourselves and go okay the reason the Freemasons came into existence is to build the most beautiful buildings on the planet and have it be completely anonymous and people have no idea who made these incredible structures. And people are still trying to figure out today who made these things. Well, the point is not to know. The point is that we all have the capacity to make them. And that's what's cool about the non-guru status. And Steiner brought this picture of self-initiation, which is why he was, you know, tried to be taken out a number of times, both intellectually, spiritually, and then physically, is he brought together in a way like this Christ's principle did as an initiate at the sixth level, a sun initiate, not a moon initiate.

He was able to consciously bring together the paths, synthesize them, particularly the rosicrucian path, the alchemical path, Hermes trismegistus, those chivalian paths in order to say not only 2,000 years ago was this all available to you, but we were babies spiritually to handle it. Now you can take a step-by-step process on your own. You don't need me, Steiner. You need no one but yourself and your inner self. And so he was able to really bring that as a picture. And the idea for Waldorf education is it prepares human beings for the greatest propensity, probability to be able to do that. Yeah. Yeah, that makes perfect sense. It's not about the, it's not about the content.

of the curriculum. Teachers get lost in that very easily. Get overwhelmed. Like, I have so much to cover. Actually, you have nothing to cover. You have everything to uncover. They don't need anything more covered over. They've had so many layers covered.

Start digging. Find the water. I love that. Well, yeah, I mean, since it's funny, anytime I hear somebody use the PL in Plandemic, I'm like, all right, we're floating on the same stream here. And obviously, you know, Paul is a mutual friend. It's kind of hard.

I couldn't imagine somebody being close to Paul and not seeing things in the way because of the way. It'd be tough. It'd be tough. It's so damn blunt. You either agree with the guy or I could see that being a big problem. Yeah, you probably love or hate Paul. All the, you know, everything that I've seen transpire since then. And, you know, in part from people like Catherine Austin Fitz and different people who have uncovered kind of the plan for the new world or, you know, and or a one world government.

you see the smart cities rolled out as an idea you see you know just magically places burn to the ground where they're going to put in their smart cities or you know that this happens and yeah and there's so many things that are just so coincidental um but also on brand for moving us into this direction right we have five times more cameras here than all of china and china's already run through a technocratic totalitarian state yeah right and so like if this is the fate of ours I had a great podcast with Alexander Satchin who wrote The Coming World Nation and he talks about these cycles of time

and moving through the Caliuga it actually seems like Christ might have come right at rock bottom to help us come back up on that ascension portion as we shift from Caliuga into the Bronze Age or Dwarper Yuga but just thinking about that

obviously there's so many things since 2020 where I've thought of the serenity prayer as best I can and if I understand my mind gets right Oh, Serenity Prayer. If this is out of my hands, if I can leave it out of my hands. If it's something I can control

or something I can learn from this, okay, let's focus on that. Yeah. And so, you know, the fate, as a parent, though, you can't help but think about the future. You can't help to think about the wonderful freedoms, however impaired right now,

we still have. Yeah. I think about that, you know, with our Australian friends on that podcast you were doing, it's like, well, a lot of these things don't happen in the U.S. because we have the right to bear arms. you know and a lot of these and still you know we see all the different ways where the first

amendment's being attacked and removed and we saw that all through COVID you know he's getting not just through slander but literally getting deleted online medical license pulled you know all sorts of stuff like that you say I see the full court press um in 2020 and I see a lot of the plan that's laid out and um it's just an interesting thing to hold that again too like as far as like really rabbit holding the darkness talked about, you know, the fact that a lot of the child sex trafficking is real and that a lot of the, the traffickers, the people that are doing, are doing ritualistic things, either through Satan or for Baphomet or for these different beings in exchange for some type of guarantee of power, money, or whatever, you can see, you know, all the Hollywood initiations they have where someone has an eye covered because they get a black eye, Elon Musk at it, you know, almost like, I know, there's dozens of them. If you look for that, look for the eye, look for the bleach, on hair at one point before they level up look for a dead family member that's another one where if you want to go up you got to sacrifice someone you love dark shit it really is but there's there's

a trail of crumbs that make it very easy to look at and it's not just going it's a playbook yeah it's a playbook yeah um so you think about these things and one thing that brings me peace is well then for sure the equal and opposite must be true yes it has to be because it's a law yeah because of the law the equal and opposite must be true yes and the power of that must be true yes and the power of that must be greater or at least equal to the power of the darkness. You know, and I think that that's something that where, you know, I've really held in my heart, you know, like that, that truly there is nothing to fear. If we hold that in us, if we, if we step out into hard open, a budic mind, a Christic heart,

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All right, back to the show. There's a beautiful poem that Steiner shares where he talks about we release all fear and terror from what comes to us out of the future. And we look forward to what comes toward us. And we think only that what comes toward us is given to us by a world direction full of wisdom. And it's part of what we can learn in this age to act out of pure love and trust in the ever-present help of spiritual worlds. truly nothing else will do if our courage is not to fail us let us discipline our wills

and let us seek this awakening from within every morning and every evening. I love that. So it's basically Steiner saying don't get distracted. When you see that something happens that

seeks division, understand that the dividing has to take place and it's a beautiful thing it's not a beautiful thing for example that a human being gets shot in the neck while he's wearing a shirt with freedom on it right that part is horrifying

but from a huge metal level perspective understand that that's happening because there is this natural law where we get to be shaken awake and we get to make a choice for some people on the planet that's attractive to them because there is some kind of a control that actually leads them to feel safe.

And actually, it's funny because sometimes we use the word control. You used it earlier, like, you know, the serenity prayer, like if I don't have control over this. Every time we feel the impulse were control, we can move that toward acceptance. Control makes us move toward the negative path, no matter what it is. Being with is the antidote for that. simply being with and this is why an adept is called an adept because he becomes more and more who he is with the next thing that comes out of his or her mouth with the next feeling that she expresses with the next action that he or she takes they become more who they are and that's as

simple as it is it's a really it's very beautiful and so when someone like you know charlie kirk gets taken out and of course there's all the distraction now with AI and with image reproduction and distortion and with the narrative is how do we how do we confuse people how do we baffle them and what actually happens is if energy centers in the body particularly the seven primary ones there are many tertiary and ancillary get baffled then they get blocked and distorted and then we remove ourselves from the path. Nobody else has done it to us. And this is what's most important to recognize is that freedom means freedom. And so, yes, you could be incarcerated. Yes, yes, this physical body, these minerals and chemicals and water and salt could be taken from you, but not really

because you're just borrowing it. You're not here for that long, bro. You've got a few more years you're only visiting so that's not actually ours you know i've heard you know you this whole you will own nothing and be happy well it's actually true from a positive level as well that's i'm saying like it seems like the inversion right it is down world and it's like yes that is a perversion of the truth yes right and that native american wisdom would show like how could you own land yes how could you own any of it yes like you're you were a part and parcel of this place yes and when you die you return you're in a good world without formaldehyde and a bunch of weirdo shit our bodies would become the grass yeah and they'd be picked apart from from vultures and karakars when we have an

animal die here it takes four hours till that thing is spotless yeah right it doesn't take 40 years none of it right yeah the bones decay at the rate of chad told me this bones decay at the rate of which the soil can accept the calcium and minerals from like that's intelligent design that's beauty right there yeah right yeah and so this is the this is the this is the whole nature of things, is being able to look so-called evil. I mean, Buddhists just say it's ignorance. Christians say it's sin. They're all different names for individuals who have chosen a particular path, but at a certain level, at a six-density level, which means when wisdom comes in to meet self-love, wisdom, you can't be taking any further. I'm looking at a beautiful Buddha

pictures. I'm saying this. Can't be taking it any further without understanding, oh, I've actually been serving the creator this whole time. The only one I fooled is myself. And then instantly there's an orientation and a repolarization because of the power of wisdom that understands in order to move further, in order to make contact with the higher self, which I have denied exists. I have just said the personality exists, the ego exists, the intellect exists through millions of years. And it's been a fun ride. And now I'm ready to try a new vehicle. And so there's a shift. And so knowing that when you really are able to feel the evolution of not just the human being, but the evolution of our intellect, which means all that we've been, the lifetimes that

we've had together, you and I have certainly been together before, and the many lifetimes we'll have in the future, the whole nature of so-called Armageddon and so forth, that is, as you just said, and that's the self-service look or the negative skew, the self-loving picture. wants that kind of Maldekian annihilation or Mars making their planet unhabitable so that Buddha had to go there with his love after he achieved that on this planet. And now he's working with beings on that planet that we can't even see because of their dimensionality. But that's the level that love is able to provide when it moves toward wisdom, as Buddha has. All of those things have the light side. There's always going to be a balancing. And so when you look at Armageddon,

and people say, oh, when's it coming and so forth? Stop giving away your power. When's it coming? You are the transformation, and you can choose to move toward light as transformation or darkness. And as you move toward light, darkness grows. So know that you've done your work when you see darkness growing. It can't grow without light growing. In a way, it follows light.

And, yeah, is that tricky? Right, I don't want to get any brighter because it's going to become darker. But the dark is light. There is no paradox. There is no duality, and there is no right and wrong. Yeah, hearing you talk about darkness grows as the light grows really made me think of, you know, before in 2020, I would see like it feels like the division for divide and conqueror has maybe never been greater, at least in my lifetime of 43 years.

It feels like we're at the extreme ends of polarity here. Yay. And I can't see the merger back, but the pendulum swings both ways and there will be emerging and, you know, whether that's on the great year cycle or the fourth turning, you know, 80-year cycles, there will be some, you know, collaboration and repositioning. Yeah, all indications say it's connected to the platonic year, the 26,000-year cycle. And so we're in that window between 25 and 26,000. And this is why Steiner suggested at this point, this negative, very,

someone who has a very materialistic dominion of the planet and an incisive mind beyond anything any human being could imagine is able to come into the world and to assume under the guise of very clever language a lot of power and a lot of leadership this will be aramon actually having his incarnation yeah break that down for people too because i've loved studying this stuff shirvin jafferiyah turned me on to aramon we did a podcast on it years ago and then of course paul did a really brilliant five hours on Christ, Lucifer, and Aramon. And that's something, too, that also makes sense to me. Steiner's understanding was that it wasn't just one bad guy with all the, you know,

a thousand names, but there were these two different forces. They're four. Four. Ooh, okay. Let's go. Let's go. So one lives in each of our different bodies. So the whole idea of the COVID thing, experience, opportunity.

you know invitation is probably the best way when human consciousness developed to a certain level it actually attracted beings that had not been able to impregnate the planet before so aramon and lucifer have been here for a while because consciousness evolved to a certain point where lucifer was actually the wisdom bringer the light bringer and when that wisdom comes it gets equal opportunity to be distorted by those who would use wisdom for their own gains. And so then Lucifer's name gets dragged through the mud or Jehovah's name gets dragged through the mud. So Jehovah takes on a new name. You know, Lucifer hasn't because he actually is and has been the Lightbringer. There's a beautiful story in a book called Buddha and Redface

by Eduardo Duran. And I sort of just, whatever, audio recorded it for a group of men before I let a dark retreat one time. And a feathered serpent is represented by Tzcatlopoca, who's the smoking mirror, by Ketsicodal, who is the Venus morning star, by Lucifer, and Christ is also a winged serpent. And the four of them have a dialogue together. And at the end of this dialogue, in pairs, they come together and they unify. The light unifies with light and dark with dark. But then they come together as one in the four of them. And the singularity is what actually Oppenheimer was looking for, but from an earth-based perspective. And this is why it ends up, you know, destroying planets. If we're not able to, what's the way to say this? Euclidean geometry is only good for a million miles

because it's point-centered. But projective geometry is infinite because it comes from the infinite the periphery and arrives to us and through us. We're not able to contain that. It would destroy us. It would fry our circuits. That's the similar reality. Oppenheimer was looking for something from an earth-based. How do I generate the most amount of energy, basically? How do I achieve a kind of a singularity? How do we unite? And the United States had this picture for a while that it was the great uniter, right? The United States. And then, of course, the shadow of that is what we see and becoming sort of the world Roman gladiator. Empire, yeah.

And in a move toward decadence, which we see, and of exporting all of our labor to third world, and then growing into decadence. And so you can see both Egyptian and Roman recapitulations in the United States of America hasn't been around for that long, and if we're not careful, then we'll follow the same path. But the idea for Aramon is that he will incarnate, has incarnated in the west of the west.

And so that's basically where we are. We're in, you know, Texas is here, but I was over in California. I was born and raised in the Silicon Valley. Yeah. Yeah, there you go. There you go. So, yeah, think Silicon Valley, because silicon is actually the movement of where the human body is going to move toward as it progresses.

It's going to move from carbon-based to silicon-based. And think of all the ramifications of that in terms of silicon weight. and how is it that we can continue to be organic beings and not subscribe to an artificial intelligence and think that bionic parts in us that last forever and then well we may as well do the same thing with the brain and then consciousness can't ray in anymore well the whole idea of to get back to now your your four beings not two is that Aramon rules the etheric body which is the life force body and was able to impregnate it more deeply through Pfizer, through Moderna, Astra-Zeneca, and so forth. Each one of them had a different being associated with it. So this is not about chemicals,

and it's actually not even about destroying a physical body. It's about separating the soul and the spirit from the angel and the higher self of the being after death. This is a war for souls. This is not about just disease on the planet or taking people out or, you know, eugenics with whatever his name is. That is small change. It's chump change. It's actually, can I separate the human being from himself through their own choice? Because no one that I know of actually was forced, held down, strapped, and had a needle stuck in their arm. The idea is how do we trick people into making a choice that separates them from themselves, from their own sovereignty. And there's a beautiful book called COVID and its effects for life after death.

And this is written by a brilliant guy who was networking with individuals all around the planet to realize that we used to be able to heal things like this when bodies get separated, the bodies that we've talked about, physical, ethereal, eye being, higher, higher, eye, individuals used to be able to work. I could support you, for example. I could come in and help support you to remember yourself, to reorganize your bodies. After this neurotoxin was delivered to individuals, it took two or small groups of people to try to achieve the same thing. And they realized that they had work to do not only while the individual was still here in a body, but more especially after death, when they could see that the,

angel was here, but sidelined, just as, as I was saying earlier, if there's not a call from an earthling to get support, you can do nothing and should do nothing. Make conditions comfortable for them and help them to sleep because that's what free will demands. They're looking for that. So what that brought in was beings that were able now to affect the eye being and the physical body. So Lucifer affects the astral body, which is the feeling life, and up toward the thinking, the wisdom portion. Aramon, the etheric or habit body, there are two beings, one who affects the physical body and one who affects the thinking body. And these beings, Sorat in particular, and the Azurahs. So Sorat and the Azuras, particularly with the onslaught of this, were able to come

and to affect now our thinking and separate us from spiritual thoughts and our physical bodies separate us from our own sense of physicalness. That's why we have like full body deodorants now. I can't stand to smell myself as a human being. Think Mr. Smith in the Matrix.

Yeah. You know where he touches Morpheus's sweaty foreheads like, ugh, right? That's it. We're not clean anymore. We smell like animals. We need to all become silicon crystal-based beings, and all will be well. All right, guys, quick break to tell you about qualia stem cell.

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Again, it's always going to be both. There will be a shadow path as a movement toward being a silica being, and there'll be an actual organic progression. The nature of crystal is that a crystal is irrefragibly itself. It's almost impossible to splinter it because it's regularized. And so it lands in the world between the perfect world of the mineral. It's a mineral has the highest beings associated with it

because of its level of buddhism, if you will, right? It's beingness. It doesn't strive to be different. It doesn't strive to grow or to change. The only thing it gradually does is just move into dissolving, which is spiritual. The spiritual eats us all the way. The crystal actually grows, though, but it grows in pure. A plant grows, but it grows in shit.

There's nothing wrong with shit, but just feel the difference between how a crystal develops as the bridge between the mineral world and the plant world. And each time in between the mushroom sits between the animal world and the plant world. It's a moon initiation. And then there are sun initiation possibilities. But the whole idea for all of these things is to help us remember who we are in as few trips as possible. One's actually all you need. The mushroom is the earth thinking herself. And so once you think and can connect with Gaia as a living being, you don't need a mushroom to do that.

Yeah. You know, not that we ever did. And some folks are able to see that without the medicine, and some use the medicine, and some use it a number of times. And so all that is welcome. Everyone has their own path. So these beings now are present on the planet, and they're present in our bodies. in each of these four bodies. And how beautiful is that?

That means we've been doing our light work. Because, again, the COVID reality couldn't have happened without light increasing. And so, again, I just say, don't be distracted. Don't be caught up in the illusion. Each time you see something horrible, recognize that your consciousness

has just been open to something even brighter, but it's not going to call attention to itself. It has to be invoked by you. Beings of the higher hierarchies are all around you and men. me right now. You can see them sometimes when we say something. You see the room light up. They're here and they're available for this conversation. They're available on all we have to do is ask. And if we're able to be able to ask consciously and unconsciously at the same time,

then what they offer to us doesn't just rattle around like a little metal ball in our brains playing pinball. And they get sort of tired of like, hey guy, I gave this information to you, like 300,000 times. And I'm not shitting you. That's the number, right? I can be more specific if you need, but I'm just going to make a CD for you, right? Because other folks are actually, you know,

wanting to move and taking this and making it their work. And that's what that is, these opportunities for these four beings, for the serratic beings, and they all have minions, if you will, right? They all have individuals saying, wow, that guy's cool. He's super smart and super powerful. I want to follow him.

There's guys like that on the planet. Gals like that on the planet. Wow, those individuals are power dreamers. And the reality that Stangler always said is, you know, make sure that you're taking three steps forward in love and morality before you take one step more on any spiritual path. Because you'll lose your love for humanity if you're not careful. All of a sudden you wake up one morning, you're like, I'm the fucking shit.

And it's like, well, now you really are the, fucking shit. Even as you amass more of whatever accolades, you're an amazing healer, you're so brilliant. It's like, let's not get fooled that we are any of those things. All that is is what's always been around this. We all

have it all the time. And all we have to do is have the faith to remember who we are and help each other confirm that and then stay out of each other's way and not pretend that we did anything for someone else. That's big medicine. I mean, that's

That's awesome. I don't think I can, I don't want to keep, we can keep going and dive way deeper, but I know you've got a big event this weekend. This will come out after the event, of course. But talk about what you're creating right now online, where people can dive deeper with you and be aided, you know, and remembering who they are. Well, let's see, there's a, there's a guy here named Jared Picard in town. And I used to teach his little girl, Kaya.

Yeah. And so we had this beautiful relationship. And so, you know, he said to me one day, hey, could we do something online with a group of men and look at Steiner's work? And I said, I don't know. Like, I'm not very good online. Like with anything. I can't even make a phone call for God's sake. And he said, well, just, you know, trust me on that. Like, I'll do all the back end stuff. And you bring the teaching. And I said, well, I'll try it. And he said, you know, just so you know, like, first. of all, nobody might sign up. And second of all, you know, it just might not make any money whatsoever. I'm like, I don't really care. Like, this sounds like a cool thing. Uh, I've never been motivated by cash anyway. So let's give this a shot. So we ended up having like 24 guys.

Thanks to actually Paul. Paul got a lot of folks, you know, he was, he was right on board with us. And that was my first podcast with him. Uh, so cool. Yeah. I just, I went to, I went over to his house for a couple of days and we were going to do it. We were going to do the podcast based on the work that Jared and I were going to do. Jared prepped me for it and everything. He's like, here's what you do. And all of a sudden, Paul and I are having lunch together, and I started talking about God. I don't know.

For some reason, he goes, he goes, Jesus, like, we're not going to talk about this other stuff. We're going to talk about what is God. That's what I'm going to start with with you. And I'm like, okay. So I called Jared. I'm like, hey, that's, you know, he's like, no, that's not. You didn't stick to the script.

Sip to the script, man. I'm like, I don't know. But it was just a. beautiful conversation and and I think the folks that heard that felt like oh there's something here it was a lot of a lot of entrepreneurs and a lot of younger folks but a couple other folks a wide range of folks like probably 26 to you know 76 jumped on and we did a 12-week piece where we focused on Steiner and particularly what Steiner said is the only thing that's going to be left of my teaching after everything else sort of

get stripped away and ripped away from folks who would like it never to be seen again is the power of our thinking. And how do we choose one thought and then stay with that thought and select the next thought in freedom and consciousness? And how do we do that all the days of our lives? And that capacity to have living thinking, to be connected with the Akashic script, with all of the beings that surround us is really the only thing that I care about. Because for him, that thinking is actually the same word as spiritual activity and the same word as freedom. And so Freihite is called Freehood, translated loosely from the German.

So freehood, think of that as a verb. I'm freehooding. It's awkward because it's, you know, not our language. If you got a better word, let me know, Kyle. But I like it. We're working on verbs right now with bear. There you go. Well, the cool thing about verbs is that both the angels and most of the original peoples all over the planet speak almost primarily in verbs.

So we're humaning right now. We're talking, but we're also humaning. We're not just human being. We're humaning. And it's not human doing. We're not lost in being purposeful or performing. There's a humaning that takes place that is an action. And we can start to get in touch with that.

And so part of that's what we work on in our work together is how do we reclaim for ourselves the original thought? Because the original thought is what created everything. And we're included in that everything. And the cool thing is we were there at the original thought because we can't be unity and not have been present. That's why I don't need to educate you or tell you anything, really. Only confirm and remind.

And that's what our opportunity is with each other. And so as soon as possible with this group of like, you know, in this case, 24 guys, we did it two years ago then, 24 guys. But then we said, why are we doing with this? It was just guys. Like, this doesn't make any sense. He's like, well, I know that you started 10 different men's group for the last like 38 years. So I thought this would hook you. I'm like, dude.

So then we invited everyone. And we got a nice mix of men and women. And after we did it, we had folks were like, hey, this isn't over. And we were like, okay. So Jared and I, what we do now? So we created something called Inner Circle, which is a deeper dive. And we worked with the raw material because it's been something that's been a mainstay for me for 40 years. And so most of those folks have just continued through these inner circle groups, which are another 12-week segment.

And then we did this other being human. So the first one is be here man. The next one is being human. And it's all it's, what's his website, Be Here Farm and Nature? Is that right? So that's all where that is if you want to look at that. And so that event, this event this weekend is actually for that, those folks who have been a part of that and want to come together.

And it's the second time that we've done that. and the idea is how do we enable people to become fully themselves like like wolf you know when she met me you know just like boom i'm wolf i'm going to shape shift right now right now i'm a crystal awesome because guess who i am right i'm the earth and you can just grow as far up as you want and that freedom of what's called maybe a leaderless group is that everyone gets to be a leader And so now we've evolved it to the point where if individuals want to and feel called, then I'll work with them offline for a couple of hours to actually be the presenter of the fourth density or the fifth density. And they're doing beautifully at it and recognizing, I can do this.

And so Plato talked about the major idea of any politician is to work herself or himself out of a job as soon as possible. And it's the same with a spiritual teacher. Get out of the way. Get out of the way. In fact, never stand in front of them. Always to the side. Keep their path unimpeded and let them move as quickly or slowly as they want. But don't block their way.

And that's what our work is. How do we help these individuals connect for a lifetime? And what's cool is even if they're no longer in the group, they can be kept on the chat and they can communicate. And Jared and I communicate with them. Like we're lifetime partners. that's awesome in this conspiracy of love of wisdom yeah so that's that's the essence of what we do and we have we have masters on you know so some of them Paul doesn't like to be called a master

but he's he's there and we had a beautiful Laird Hamilton one time then his wife came on Gabby and Laird are awesome buddies powerful beautiful people I just I was blown away by Laird's his connection with the afterlife for example is super important to him everything that he does then we had victor wooten which was a particularly beautiful human being uh he's a double bassist he was played with the bell in the flecktones and he's got uh one brother's dead but they five brothers in the family they all grew up in a tiny little uh two-room cabin and the father said you can disagree any time but you may not argue and you can just feel it in those brothers when they play together. That's the kind of community that I want to build with people.

I love that. That connection. Yeah. And we've had so many other people. I can't even begin to recall, but I think we've had over 20 masters now. And every one of them is stellar. We had we had Jim McCarty from the raw material. Cool. Yeah. The crazy thing is I grew up down the street from where that raw material was going on and I was right where they were doing all I was in high school during those years, from 81 to 84, 85. And, you know, as I reflect back on that energetically, I think just how interesting that is that I was in proximity to that material coming through, because the moment I, the moment

Chief Little Summer started coming through with that material, I just was like, I recognize myself, I recognize this, this is undeniable. And again, it's just natural. It's like natural. Okay, let's get on with it. Yeah, so that's what we do. It's, you know, how do we build community online? I never thought it was possible, but it actually is.

How do we sacralize everything? Not in a weird, ritualistic way, but how do we, like this conversation right now, how do we just make it so enlivening and so beautiful that we don't want to be anywhere else, but right here, fully present? Well, brother, it's been absolutely awesome having you on. This will be the first of many of my, I hope. I hope so, too. Anytime you're in Texas, I want to know.

So shoot me a text or let Jared know in advance to get a hold of me. And I hope to be able to attend some of your events going up in the future. And Jared's asked me to pop in there as one of the guest speakers at some point. So I'll be able to join you guys online for a week. Good. And I also do dark retreats. Very cool. Yeah.

So next week I'll be in Aspen with. Is that on a different website? What's the website for your darkness retreat? That's on Inspiration. Okay. Inspiration is part of Timothy Tillman is my colleague in crime on that one. So we go to snow mass into the base of the mountains there, and we do darkness. It's darkness for beginners.

So, you know, I've done dark retreats for a week or more on my own. But this is doing it in a group, but it's in silence. And this is, it's usually for starters, it's like 36 hours. And we do preparatory movement and blind activities to. move into that space and then to integrate whatever happens during that time that sounds awesome i'm more attracted to a 36 hour try than a six day try for the first go it's you know it's and you know what everybody's scared everybody's nervous from a little bit to like oh my god i can't believe i signed up for this and so far we've done it for three years now everybody's walked away like i'm so glad i did

sometimes the ones who are most scared are getting the most out of it which is interesting the one who the ones who feel like, I might be able to have this, it's kind of like Sky Caves, Scott Berman over in Sky Caves, he's the one who does like a week long by yourself. He said the folks who come and either have done Vipasana for a couple of weeks or have done some kind of deep meditation think, I've got this, you know, and those are the ones who have the hardest time who tend to dissociate.

And so that sort of expectation that like I'm going to be okay, Look out. That's actually good news for me because I'm plenty nervous. We have our, my first vision quest will be this next month or in two weeks on the land here. Oh, nice. I'm sitting with me and the guy was telling you about that hunting trip up to Colorado. Oh, yeah.

He's done Sundance 17 years, so he's going to come pour sweat for us and, you know, watch over us energetically while we're in there for the four days. But, yeah, I'm telling my son, I haven't felt this nervous since, like, my first ayahuasca journey. And that's fucking awesome to feel that way. Yeah, it's because you're smart. Right?

Yes. Yes. You know? Yeah. You're paying attention. You're going to be a different type of endurance, a different type of surrender. Yes. Yeah. And that's beautiful medicine. But I can tell, you know, I'd like that you said, the ones that are nervous are going to gain the most because I'm proper nervous for this. Good. Good. Darkness, which will call me at some point. It makes me happy. Thank you so much. Are you online anywhere, like just social media or anything like that if people want to follow you?

No. No social. You're smart. All right. I get that. No. Got your websites. Yeah. I mean, they could contact me. at Edmondighton.com. I think I got that up for a little while longer. I'm probably going to ditch that too. But I think if you just look me up,

you could probably like you could just hit my Iowa account or something. Cool. Thank you so much, brother. It's been incredible. Or you could find me through Jared. Okay. He's more brother. Thank you, brother.