Kyle Kingsbury Podcast - #435 Alchemy of Life, Vision Quests & Spiritual Mastery w/ Erick Godsey

Episode Date: December 9, 2025

The podcast features a return visit from Erick Godsey, who has worked alongside Kyle for over six years in Fit For Service (FFS) and previously at Onnit, where their desks were next to each other. They share a deep bond over discussions on Jungian psychology, tarot readings, and personal growth. The conversation primarily centers around their recent shared experience participating in a vision quest guided by Ken Conte, recounting their transformative journeys and the lessons learned. Kyle and Erick discuss the physical and psychological challenges they faced, the spiritual teachings they encountered, and the profound impacts on their personal lives and relationships. They also touch upon the end of their time with FFS, the grief and growth that came with it, and their plans for future ventures like Full Temple Reset and the Kyle's new digital community. Throughout, the importance of facing adversity, alchemical transformation, and continuous self-improvement is emphasized.   FULL TEMPLE RESET registration is now open. Check it out here: https://kingsbu.com/fulltemplereset   Connect with Erick here: Instagram Lucid University   From Kyle: The Community is coming! Click here to learn more   Our Sponsors: Let’s level up your nicotine routine with Lucy. Go to Lucy.co/KKP and use promo code (KKP) to get 20% off your first order. Lucy offers FREE SHIPPING and has a 30-day refund policy if you change your mind. To SUPERCHARGE YOUR STEM CELLS, go to qualialife.com/kyle15 for up to 50% off, and use code KYLE15 for an additional 15%. Go to tonum.com/KKP, use the code KKP, and get 10% off your first order of Nouro.   Connect with Kyle: I'm back on Instagram, come say hey @kylekingsbu Twitter: @kingsbu Our Farm Initiative: @gardenersofeden.earth Odysee: odysee.com/@KyleKingsburypod Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@Kyle-Kingsbury Kyle's Website: www.kingsbu.com - Gardeners of Eden site If you enjoyed this podcast, please subscribe & leave a 5-star review with your thoughts!  

All right, guys, we have one of my favorite guests of all time back on today, Eric Von Godzi. Godzie is somebody I worked with for six years. Actually, longer than that, six years in fit for service. But we had at least a year or two on it prior to that. And our desk were right next to each other. We'd pull tarot cards off his deck, off his desk, and just fucking hang and shoot the shit and talk union psychology and all sorts of fun stuff. You know, we got to participate in our very first vision quest this year.

We did it on the land. Ken Conti guided us. A year ago, I had Jimmy Weldon on to discuss his experience and Ken Conti as well to discuss his experiences doing many vision quests, many sweats, many sun dances. And so we're blessed to have him and his friend Jackie here singing to us and holding the prayers. And it was a wild experience. I've never had my ass kick so bad in my life than this experience. And I will deep dive it here. I try to leave as much as I can for Eric. He went the longest for him to really deep dive his experience and it was just fucking beautiful i mean i got everything i needed from it i think he did as well

and you know we're excited to make this an annual thing you know when you sign up for a vision quest it's four years you know once a year for four years so we'll have at least three more of these to talk back on and you know i split these into two volumes i had a work-related issue come up that cut this in half and that's fine because gave me another excuse to hang out with godsey so the volume one of this episode is on the vision quest and And, you know, kind of everything that we've been up to recently. And then volume two is on everywhere we're going. So we're going to talk about what's happening now in the wake of FFS.

In volume two, running back full temple reset for the seventh or eighth time, I think, and what that's all about and what we're creating going forward. And, you know, he's, Eric is just a brilliant mind. He's somebody that will always be one of my best buddies. And I've loved working with him a past, and I love getting to work with him in the future in whatever way we can. All right, y'all, share this one far and wide. two is going to roll right into this thing right after volume one you don't have to click on a

different video or anything like that it'll just be there all right without further do my brother eric godsey godzie you back on the podcast we're talking manifestation and prayer right now we're getting right to it so you had a story about one i'm not always my pleasure brother i love you buddy you too yeah so you were just talking about how you were going down the rabbit hole that the emotional state of the nervous system might be the most important after you're aspect of prayer and then I was sharing how that reminded me of a story Aubrey shares often about the Hawaiian shamanic lineage where if they see someone who's sick or someone who has a psychosis or whatever the you know terms would be their first instinct is to like attune to that person's nervous

system and find the insane person inside of themselves forgive it And that they really believe that that changes the other person's state. And I was just going back to what you were saying. That's awesome. I remember him talking about that and how genius I thought that was. There's something to the mirroring, but also the forgiving. And so one of the, I've just got, Greg Braden was recently on Rogans. I've followed him for years, love his stuff.

Also love dispensas. And so, you know, he's big on these things, but from a different angle, right? So it's like learning, you know, submission wrestling from the Russians instead of Brazilian jiu-jitsu, right? Both work. Yeah. But, um, Braden, I got, uh, three of Braden's things, I got an audiobook series. And he really has a whole thing. It's called the Isaiah effect. And it's from, uh, the Dead Sea Scrolls and the noncomati. And he really talks about feeling being the prayer. And he has a cool story about traveling to Tibet with his wife and 22 other people and being like basically brought in and allowed to like feel and understand through word and translation exactly how they pray. And, um, it just follows suit with it. Right. That feeling is the most important piece. And, uh, and, um, well, I can coordinate that and grasp onto it in terms of manifestation practice, prayer, things like that, that it's truly your 24-7 that matters.

It doesn't mean you can't be acutely off from weight training or boxing or something like that. But your general state of being is going to give you the largest representation of what you're experiencing in the outside world, period, if guys like Robert Anton Wilson are correct in that there is no singular reality but that each of us through through our own selection has the ultimate reality tunnel right there's our reality tunnels mirror back to us our personal beliefs and where we're at so again the nervous system which is something we've been paying a lot of attention to for the last several years uh it's been a wild ride

i wanted to have you on for two reasons one we just did our first vision quest yes which i want to dive into and then two we've been doing full temple reset now this will be our eighth one coming up So I want to talk about that because with fit for service kind of, you know, doing its own thing and moving on, it's, it's interesting that this is what we keep from it. For sure. Amongst all the memories and the lessons and the value that FFS was for us is too much to name. It's like trying to count your blessings and a gratitude prayer to God. You're just like, I can't count them all. So sorry that I didn't, but this is what's on my mind for the run with FFS.

I imagine things will come back to me in bits and pieces. and hopefully through seeing other people and their experience. You know, 10 years from now, that kind of thing that will really help that. You never know the impact you have. And what was cool about FVS is that we had an idea of the impact we had

because we were seeing people face to face and we could hold them through an experience. And that was unique and incredible. There's times on the podcast where we had an Irish guy break. They saw me and Tosh on Congress downtown and he just broke down crying because he had listened to me,

He saw a post from me and her when it was our joint account on Instagram. You know, he thought he was insane because he was the only one in his family that refused to take the shot. But listening to me and the doctors that I had had on and things like that gave him enough evidence to stay true to himself. And he couldn't be more grateful for it, right? I was like, damn, I didn't know. So that's cool. Where do we start? We want to dive in with, let's dive into the vision quest.

All right. Yeah. Let's go. You got ceremonies on ceremonies. So. Yeah, it just did pay OD for the first time. This best weekend. Maybe we'll get into that, too.

We've got a short clock here, so I want to not take too much time with myself chiming in, but I'm going to have to at certain points. We had a Vision Quest here a year ago at the farm, and Jimmy Weldon was the first guy, and I wanted to do it with him, and it just wasn't the right time, and I said, you know, let me see if you can do this.

If you don't die, then I'll consider joining you next year. It's funny how many people have told me, Eric, you can't live more than three days without water. I'm like, hey, these guys have been doing this for a thousand plus years. I think there are some case studies to the contrary. Yeah, and they dance. You know, they dance like people and ask like, well, let's see all these when these disease pop back. And I'm like, that information is here.

The Amish haven't had never been vaccinated. You think they're using in these studies of vex versus unvax. But table that conversation. A lot of people, my sister's into Western medicine, same thing. She's like all this Ardia type. ituses that are popping into her head. She thinks going to happen. And I'm like, listen, if I get in a bad way, I'm not going to be a fucking hero.

I'm going to pull myself from it. And I did. Comically early, which we'll allude to. But Jimmy does this four days. We podcasted about it. I had Ken Contean as well, who was our guide. Ken's done 17 sun dances. He runs ancestral hunting school.

He's a true gem. A guy who we met through Fit for Service. 100%. And got to know, stuck around for, I think, five or six years out of the whole thing. but just you know that's one of the gifts one of the blessings is ken in it of himself so yeah he um he came back and when you say yes you're saying yes to four years yep four days a year in a row for four years um so jimmy was getting ready for his second one and i said put me in on that and we due to some scheduling conflicts had to make it earlier in october last year jimmy did it at the end

of october it had just dropped 12 degrees we finally had fall weather and he was able to do the full four this year it happened to just be 91 degrees for three or four of the days right i think the first three was 91 it might have been 90 or 92 on day four um so that changed things significantly yes and i mean i tell us to ken but it's like i get it that y'all might do sundance and you're dancing the whole time you're piercing you're doing all it's a whole different ball game right i have so much respect for the people that are able to put themselves through that polandhi finish just i was like how do you fucking do it he said prayer is what carries you And so I was hope and prayer would carry me.

It gave me everything I needed and I'll dive in that. But you were the guy who lasted the longest. You lasted the longest. I had assumed, you know what, we go out, we pick our spaces and you had a, that's a funny tale that you're going to tell on yours. Tragic. Tragic. But thinking about that, I had spent, I had spent time in my space in the morning, midday,

different times a day. Cool. And never really thought, like, this is problematic. I just thought, this is awesome. We got plenty of shade. It'll be good. even if it's hot out I'll be I'll be in the shade and it wasn't the case so I assumed after finishing first long before anybody else that you guys had to have shade and jimmy pulled himself

at two and a half days this guy had already done for so he knew he could do it and he pulls out at two and a half days and like you didn't have shade do you and he goes no I didn't and I was like all right I feel better about my situation and then uh you came back at like three and a half you were so close to the finish like be honest like two days is two days is kind of the minimum which is what I wanted to get to, but doing two days, three days on your first run is plenty. So you made it the whole way, basically.

And I'm thinking for sure this guy had shade and you come back and the whole right side of your body is fucking burnt, burnt to a crisp because you don't have a tan. You're not used to it. You got smoked and I was like, oh my God, that means each day when the sun hit, it was blasting half of your body just cooking you on one side

and I've always had respect for you. I lost my voice last night at my son's game. playoff game i've always had respect for you in the greatest of ways and it's still just fucking magnifies it just i just blew my mind i when i'm staring at your sunburn i was like holy shit dude how did you do it so walk us through and then i'll talk about my i can i can really pull a point mind to keep it to keep it lower or quick though we can keep a conversation moving but talk about your experience brother what drew you to it yeah intentionally and all of it yeah so when Jimmy told me about having done the vision quest I have this like vow to myself that if I feel

my soul lurch forward at a thing and my ego cringe at a thing and if those emotions happen at the same time I have to do it. Yeah, it's just like an inner like I have to do it. And it's because so much of my life that I have now that is just gorgeous. is the result of running that program. It's how I got to on it. It's why I said yes, to go out on the first podcast when I had a stutter. It's what got me to do Wachuma with you guys for the first time, which changed my life. And so I was like, I want to do it.

And then I also really like to just do hard shit, you know, because there's a part of me that can feel, especially as I've had more monetary success, I can feel the like, the fog of comforts just kind of like eroding my clarity and my purpose and my will like not completely but like just I don't have the same default hunger I had when I was broke and no one knew who I was and so there's always a part of me that's trying to like what's a wisdom practice or tradition that I can what is an initiation that I can say yes to the other thing that like why I was drawn to vision quest is that I'm so a perpetual this is how I explained it to my mom

because my mom was like Eric why are you doing all of this stuff and what I explained to her is I feel like I'm a Anthony Bourdain of natiatori experiences like how he saw restaurants I see wisdom

traditions and as like a perpetual honor like an honoring is like I will subject to my soft Western and raised all to Walmart and public television, you know, meat suits to these things and then just try to tell the truth of what happened. And then I think the last reason is, I think we're at a precipice moment and we need

a renaissance or we're going to extinct ourselves. And I think the wisdom traditions have hints as to like how the fuck can we wake up. So with all that said, I said yes. And like I'm trying to think of where to start because I could talk for a really long time. but I think the first thing I was blown away by was the power of the prayer flag tie. We had to

tie. We had to cut cloth into little like four by four square and then put tobacco in each one and then like speak a prayer into it and then tie it to a string. 411 and

it took me about a week to do it blown away by how enjoyable. that was, how it's the most I've ever prayed in my life. Like, it's not even close. And by the time I got to the last day, I was just weeping at memories

from things coming up from the past that I had, you know, and like good things. Just like really appreciating, like a big part of the weeping was just really appreciating everything that FFS has been for us and that it's over. You know, just like feeling or at the very least,

its current incarnation is finished. And there may be a reincarnation at some point in the future. But just feeling how, like, for me personally, fit for service was like my graduate school. You know, like, it made me who I am. And then when the day came to come here, I was nervous, but I had a special spot that I had picked out for myself a month earlier

where I went on a vision or I went on like a land wander and, you know, for people who know me, They don't imagine me as someone who says, like, spirit guided me to this spot. But when I did this land wander a month ago, through a whole series of synchronicities I won't get into, it felt like the spirit of my unborn first child brought me to this special spot. And then I later rose on the roots of the trees that felt like they were symbols for mine and Caitlin's union. And then I get there that day, and we go down and look at the spot. and I can fucking see

Jimmy's outhouse latrine from my spot and I can a part of me knows like fuck I'm not going to be able to be here but I was like can we just come back in the morning and really feel it out and blah blah blah so we go to sleep that night

we wake up the next day the day of entering into the sweat and then me you Jimmy the other visioner and then Ken and we all go down to my spot and it's just instantly clear that this is not like I can't be here you know like we have a hundred and what 19 acres here and you know like Ken was like pick some other spot and privately inwardly I'm crushed and I'm upset and the boy in me is like

why doesn't he move you know like just I and because I was in the state of disconnect I couldn't feel where to pick a spot and we just kept walking and I felt you guys getting antsy and I felt Ken being like you know and I'm probably projecting no I was antsy as fuck I need to I was just because I was thinking like I should have brought my water I didn't know we're going to pick the spot right now and yeah obviously you want to feel into that and I didn't want to rush it that's why I split off and just walked back home was like I'm gonna I'm gonna head home I don't want to delay these guys yeah and so then finally I get to a point where I'm like you know because I'm asking Ken questions and he's being that like stoic like oh you know and

and finally I get to a point where I'm like Ken you've done this before will you help me like will you help and i said it with that energy i'm like will you help me pick a spot and he like looks around he's like that one's good like two seconds like two full seconds he just did a scan and we go to the spot and i can feel inside i just want to cry because like in my inner experience i'm like this is ugly there's no and in hindsight it's like bro we were in the whole wrong part of the farm for for me to pick a spot here these aren't even technically trees they're like large shrubs and yeah so we go back to the house for the first time of my life i think i made myself sick from being too hydrated i was

explaining it to you but i drank i think i drank four of the big leader or like um i think they're one liters of the mountain valley drink four of those three um electro light packets and ate a steak and was having this weird experience where I'd be completely cold but then full body sweating interesting and it happened like four times

and I don't know if it was just like super anxiety but I think I drank so much that my body was like trying to like squeege out some waves of water and then it was time to go into the sweat you know and so I think what I'll do is I'll pass it off to you

you can say what the sweat was like and then we can kind of like tandem I like this so also my first year I had spent some time and I picked a spot that actually done my only plant medicine journey

on the land solo was out near that area so I kind of knew where I wanted to be it's in it's in the forest area it's its own ecosystem there's 200-year-old

oak trees and elms and it's a fucking magical spot and so I find the spot happy with it um the pre-game you know I considered doing full temple reset style

fasting mimicking diet so that way I'd already be in ketosis and I will try that next year but it kind of was a swage to eat more and go in feeling full. Yeah. So, you know, I bend the knee. I eat a bunch. We had a really cool team dinner the night before the sweat. And then I had steak, too. But one thing that I fucked up on for certain is I had had like five element packs that day. And you can oversalt yourself to where you're dehydrated. So we get in the sweat. And, you know, to be honest, I've done hundreds of sweats. I'm not, there's people that can out sweat me, you know, do a void. sweat for 16 hours and real shit like that. I've never done those. But I've survived many sweats and been good in all of them. Usually in round three, I might start to get thirsty, but I would say that's a possibility. Round four, I'll be thinking about water, but I'm not dehydrant. I'm not dying

of thirst. We go through, and this is only two rounds to open it, then you go out on the land and you have two rounds to close it, three and four. I was so thirsty during round one. You were drenched. like I could see like you looked different than everyone else in the sweat right when the rocks came in I was fucking dumping like and I sweat real easy in the summer because of working out running midday

son and all that shit but I started to panic in my mind knowing how thirsty I was just the idea of how thirsty I was and that once you enter the sweat there's no more sips of water so when I got out before going to the place I couldn't sneak some I couldn't do anything

if I wanted to do it correctly that the opportunity to drink was gone and that fucked me up dude i was like oh man how am i this i'm never thirsty in round one ever and it dawned on me i probably had too much salt so i laid down on the ground and round two which also never happens i might have to lay down for three and four or just four or i'm fine to sit up the whole time depending on my location and how hot the sweat is this wasn't a super hot sweat but i was like fuck it i just got to lay down so i laid down for the whole second round ken can and jacky kept them quick. And yeah, talk about your part of the sweat. Then we can, we can, I'm happy to

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All right, back to the podcast. I had made myself feeling sick from how hydrated I was before that by the end of the sweat, I was like, all right, it's game time. And it was uneventful, actually, for me. Well, that's how I want it to be. You know, that's my goal for the next three years. have the sweat be a moment of meditation and prayer you know just to prep so i they put me in my spot first they set it all up with the with the prayer ties tasha scrambling to set up a new bivy that

i just got that we've never used before and ken's like you'll figure it out i'm like all right cool you're right the fucking bivy dude when we got there i think we started around three i don't know we had the fire going things like that so like it was some point you know in that late afternoon where the sun was over my spot but because i'd come out of the sweat i was just cooling off being outside, right? I got completely soaked. I pull my clothes off. I'm laying naked, drying my shorts, and on top of the sleeping bag. And I start to drive off, but there's a breeze. I feel cool. And I'm starting to go back in between the feelings that the oscillation of what Jimmy said and that you have this, what the fuck did I sign up for? Why did I do this to

myself? This sucks. Man, I'm thirsty. Whatever the complaint is, oh, I'm discomfortable in this way. And then the swing of the pendulum. And there was like almost immediately, a sense of unity, almost immediately a sense of being held and that's in large part if you listen to jimmy's podcast which we'll link on the show notes to that's what drew me to the experience to begin with i was drawn to the experience because like you i'm looking for other avenues to get to altered states of consciousness and i really haven't had a breakthrough psychedelic experience in years you know i just haven't even on high doses of stuff just not transformational wowed me but it wasn't like anything that that i was that where i shifted from so i was i was really hoping this could be that and it was but it was that unity piece I was searching for I wanted a humbling experience which is a very funny thing to ask for caution anyone who wants to be humbled in any sort of altered state but I got those two and I wanted a name for for the community that I'm creating like hey let me let's get this name right but the first two came very quickly the third one didn't come yet I'm still working on the name but I'm getting I'm getting closer and you actually helped me a ton there I'll talk about that in a

minute but so I oscillate back and forth and in between I'm able to drop in a meditation like very well yeah and I'm like for sure if I can fucking meditate like this even just periodically it's recharging my soul every single time you know like and I my meditation practice thanks to Michael holt has never been better so I'm just dialed uh feeling like this is going to work sun starts the set it gets easier I start putting on layers it starts to cool off it gets easier mosquitoes come and I'm like ah and then I realize it's not that big of a fucking deal so I put the bivy up mosquitoes you know I'm so tall that the bivis still went right over my forehead and so they could still hear them land all right and bite me all night um but eventually I put up my

hoodie and the hoodie kept him off my forehead and um again I slept some didn't expect that at all um I remember seeing the sun come up and going back into meditation and I'm watching the sun thinking like this I can do this I could at least get two days I can get two days I can get two days for sure. I don't know if I can do all four because I was really, really dehydrated. And for some reason, I keep having a pee. So I get up and I go pee. I took one shit. And then for some reason I got pee, I get up and I'm peeing and I'm seeing like peach-colored urine. And I've cut 20 fucking, I'm thinking of all my fights. I cut 22 pounds for Stefan Bonner and had clear urine that day. Right? So I'm like, how much water have I lost that I have peach-colored urine

and come back, lay down, oscillate, you know, between the pendulum swings. And the sun continues to move up. And then I realize at one point, I think I miscalculated what time of day it is. And I think the sun's about to fucking move right over me. And sure enough, it does. And I calculated this after the fact, after I went home. But I sit there, like, in my mind, knowing the temperature here, it's probably mid-80s, and it's going to go to 91.

And I start really suffering because of the mind, right? Like, it became very hard to meditate through the mental chatter and the discomfort of there's nowhere to run. You're not allowed to leave your square. It's a decent size square, but there was no part of that square where there was shade. And, you know, I'm starting to sweat. I'm seeing my veins. My piss starts turning the strawberry color. And I'm like, uh, what do I do?

And I think, like, should I crawl over here where there's shade? I know it's breaking the rules, but I'm like, I'm fucking 10 yards away. There's shade. Can I just fucking crawl there? And so I try to sit up and I'm nodding. and I'm just feeling just the most discomfort I've ever felt and I go back and I just lay down on my back

I say fuck it just lay here do the damn thing the way they say that's what I did that's why I got so red so I lay back in the sun and I like I know I was not going to burn because I'm in the sun every day and I'm just laying there but I'm cooking and then at a certain point you know I kind of go out of like a stupor

half meditation I come back and I see all my veins are gone and I'm a vascular dude like I just put it that way I'm no bodybuilder but I have a lot of fucking veins from years of altitude training and blood flow restriction, which is also another form of altitude training. So, like, my veins are there and I'm lean. I'm like 6% body fat. Maybe not at the moment, but close. I also lay between 6 and 10, 10 being heavier when I'm meeting a lot of whatever I want.

And seeing the veins go away with like, uh-oh, this is approaching like, what is it, sunstroke? Like I'm starting to think of the things that cause that shock. And my, the, in between my left forefinger and thumb, that nerve just locks. like I was doing breath work. Wow. And so it starts to lock and twitch on me. And I'm like, interesting. That's a nervous system thing.

And I'm paying attention. My right calf locks. And I'm laying on my back. And it locks down hard. And I'm like breathing through it. I'm trying to send it energy. I'm giving it gentle massagers to get to open up. But it just started to cramp.

And I was thinking like, this is fucking day one. You know, what am I got to do wait until the morning? So I'm talking to all the thing. I'm at least make it until morning. It's like, that's still not two days. I'd have to wait until it was this fucking hot. again. And at that point where I really feel like quitting, I still find myself trying to tough it out. And I really start calling in the prayer. You know, and what am I fucking here

for? And I start thinking about the humbling experience and I laugh. I start thinking about, you know, understanding God differently. And what was cool is it kind of showed me all of the times where I burnt the candle at both ends and in the middle to see God. Like, let's blow this fucking top off, you know, whether that was. was 30 grams of penis and be mushrooms or an initiatory dose of 5MEODMT the day after doing combo to clean myself out two days or two days in a row of combo to clean myself and then the initiatory dose that lasted 17 days like all this shit's popping up and uh the very clear very clear I didn't hear it but like a very clear message came through like you don't have

to beat your ass to see me you know and it was exactly what I needed you know it really was And I could see in that message the whole history of times where I did beat my ass to do it. You know, I took like no care, no caution, throw caution in the wind, give me the full experience, buckle up. And it was really reassuring, you know, like, oh, cool. Yeah, I got this. Like, I got my connection. And another one was, I'm only a whisper away. So even that is still an idea because there is no whisper away.

We're not separate from anything, right? We're one with the whole thing. But that, to me, was like a communicate. You know, God's always listening. Always. God's listening right now. God's speaking right now. So there's like, there, with that understanding,

it just kind of reinstilled that no effort is necessary. You know, my connection is there constantly. And people would say that, you know, you don't need ayahuasca. You're already, you know, it's already there. And it's like, oh, I need a ayahuasca. That's what taught me to meditate. That's what prompted me to meditate and prompted me to do yoga and prompted me to quit alcohol and a whole bunch of other shit, you know.

So, but thankfully, you know, I think that's why my plant medicine journeys haven't been there and meditation has been exceedingly a huge blessing in a tool in my life. So with that, with the connection to spirit, I have felt less and less called, but more called to meditate every day and do things like this. So getting that, it was probably around the 25-hour mark. I'm like, I think that's everything I need. And I started laughing about the humbling piece. And it was hilarious and absolutely humiliating to think, I wanted to bring this here to this land to show my son. Women, you know, girls have their own, their own initiatory things, right?

We just had our oldest, my niece, you know, she just had her first red tent and she's now a young woman, right? And I had a vision of that, like six months before it happened. And I could see her as an older woman. I'm like, oh, it's going to happen. So very cool stuff. And then if you enter motherhood, that's the next stage. When you can no longer have babies, that's the next stage is the wise woman or crone.

And so, like, they have theirs built into the biology. we do not so if if our my daughter wants to do this it's available but it's really about the boys and so thinking like i'm going to lead by example you can't tell him this i can't tell him i can't tell to do something that i've ever actually done completely you know it's like oh go to the amazon but only have a sip you know like no fucking go to the amazon experience it so uh it was funny because i i pictured him his disappointment and him just ragging on me and uh so i i walk back I'm like, fuck, I'm limping back to the place. Full lock on the left hand, full lock on the right calf.

Ken's not there. He's at the house. And the guy turned the fire. It probably was around six. The sun wasn't starting to set. It was still over me, you know? So it was probably like 90 degrees. It had passed the 91, I think, and started coming back down.

But I was like, that's it. And the fire helper gets Ken, calls him up. He comes back and he's like, nothing wrong. I never questioned spirit. Let's sweat you out and get you some water. So we do three and four. I get my glass of water at the end of round three and intelligently sip the water

because I've seen Jimmy do this wrong. I'm like, I don't want to fucking blow my stomach up. Ken walks me back to my house. And that was another thing I realized. It is, I thought it would be easier and more convenient to have this on the land that I tend and steward because this will connect me to the land. But the fact that I can, there's an option to go home

is that also makes it significantly harder because that option doesn't exist if you go to Colorado or Northern Idaho or anywhere else in the planet, right? But that option is here for me. And so I had to think about that, but I get back to the house and I'm telling what's going on.

Natasha's in disbelief. She's like, why are you? And I start explaining some stuff, but I'm still in it, you know? And Bear's like, he just, I see the smile on his face. He goes, you couldn't,

you couldn't even go two days. And immediately, Tasch is like, in defense. She's like, how long have you gone without water bear? And so I was like, no, no, no. Let him give it.

Let him give it. And he just fucking ragged on me for, for like a good 30 minutes to an hour. It was actually great. It was healing for that. But I told them about the humbling experience. Humbling had I gone four days and got medevacked out. That's a different kind of fucking humbling, right?

That's not a good kind of humbling. This is the most humbling thing I could have had happen. And also, just in the medicine from God was humbling in and of itself. It's like, no shit, dude. Yes, obviously. Okay. Let me hold this and try to remember it. so that was my experience and then you know every sip of water i'm thinking about you and

and uh jimmy just trying to hold the prayer that you guys get everything from you need from it and um in those next next couple days were we're rad seeing jimmy come out next at the two and a half day mark really made me feel okay so like if both these guys go four days i'm gonna feel like a total fucking piece of shit and so he comes out at two and a half days and he tells me he got he actually sat in the water to cool his skin yeah he told me that i go i go i go like what I would have that's illegal I would have done that too but I didn't want to break the rules but it's a great idea don't sip it but I'm thinking I also know that when you sit in water your skin will soak it in so like that's for sure cheating um so did he come out he came out

and got the water and then now he he I think he got out of the water and then came to throw in the towel because he realized like not not like an honesty thing but just because he told everyone but just that you know he was done when he was done he when he got the message he was was done, he fought that message from source for like three more hours. And then he realized, oh, I actually am done. I'm sorry. I wasn't listening and, you know, came in. But bring us up to yours because you went the longest and, you know, tell me about your intention and all the things that came to you, brother. Before we get to that, can you just tell me what it was like when Jimmy came back? Because I haven't had a chance to get his story. And just like, how was he received? What was

his state? He seemed great. I mean, honestly, when we picked him up on day four last year, he looked like he was dead. Yeah. He did. You know, he was emaciated, sunk in, dark circles around his eyes, you know, tears coming down somehow and just pure, full of gratitude and completely humbled. And I think that was a shocking state for Jen and Tosh and the women to see. And Leah, you know, like, oh, fuck, dude.

Like, dude's on death's door, you know. And he looked much more vibrant than that. But he also, I mean, you know, being in direct sunlight, when you're, you know, that being in direct sunlight when you're dehydrated like that it's a whole fucking different animal you know and like again like the guys who do sundance and it's 90 degrees and you're dancing the whole time and you're sweating before each day like whole different level of respect that's black belt shit you know like mad respect for the guys that that do that and the women that do that as well but um you know us feeble yeah we're amateurs right no no question so i i was happy to see him happy to hear his thoughts on on the

experience and you know the first thought i had was if i do this again we got to do it when it's cooler for sure we just have to for sure you know and i don't want to take no chances on a fucking 90 degree heat streak in october or november yeah all right so my intention for this was to um like really anchor the transition from young man into father both as a husband as um an actual father to a child and then also as like a leader of a community you know like i've been in the young man archetype for a while and you know so i was doing this to like herald the transition so we go to your spot first we then go to jimmy's spot and then by the time we get to my spot on the first day it's i think it's like 5 30 and the sun's already starting to like shift and uh they wrap my

prayer ties and they leave and because I've done the darkness retreat twice I know that like for me before I start using spiritual practices to protect myself from the silence listen for the stuck grief and I weep and so within like half an hour I am just weeping at like appreciating my love Caitlin and then also weeping how I still have these pockets where I use the false urgency of work to actually create the distance between me and Caitlin and just weeping for that. I weep enough where my body is ready to take a shit and so I take a shit and that was great and that's the only shit I took out there and then I really just kind of enjoyed the like wow of of like we're here, we're doing this.

And my first big, like, what the fuck moment was once the sun went down, you know, it was only like three or four hours after like my spot was such where I had a bunch of coverage for early morning and evening, you know, for like the first two hours and last two hours of the day. And so by the time the sun went over the bush horizon, I started to set my sleeping bag up And I got the bivie And I started like

I don't know what it is about my biology But when if I'm with friends and there are mosquitoes I get five bites for their one Yes It's just been like that like since I was a kid And so I start getting bit And I'm like okay it's time to get into the motherfucking You know Bivie

It was so hot in the bivie It was like five to seven degrees warmer And and I'm just dumping sweat and so I take off my shirt I take off my shorts and I'm in just my boxers and for like four hours it feels like I'm just so on the first

night I there was a small hole in the top of my bivy and so for the first night whenever I would hear the I would like go to slap and because my nervous system wasn't like calmed yet I hit myself enough

in the head to give myself a headache like from trying to like keep away the mosquitoes and then after like what felt like four hours of just laying in and you know it's dark by now but it's still hot like the heat hasn't changed and i feel like and it's impossible to tell how much time went there but like i meditate a lot and so i have a pretty good amount i have a good internal clock if i'm not on drugs you know and it feels like it's three or four hours until finally it gets cold enough where i can even try to sleep and that whole first night i kept having what's called hypnagogic jerks which is where if you're about to fall asleep but a part of your brain feels like this isn't a safe place to

sleep you'll like jerk yourself awake it's this um evolutionary response no exaggeration i hypnagogically jerk myself out of sleep like 20 to 30 times i don't know when i slept but i did have like like a vision of a dream of a hummingbird it was just one image and it was like the black round the background the background was a soft glowing pink and then there was a hummingbird like kind of like frozen in flight like with his head up and then i woke up as soon as and i'm curious if you notice this too but there's like half an hour where the black like the dead blackness of night just shifts into a slight shade of lighter but it's it's like half an hour before the sun breaks the horizon first light that's one of the best times a day to be around it was

that's the best time to be hunting gorgeous because i woke up you know apparently i was able to sleep some and i was shivering but still like i i still felt hot but i felt but i was like shivering but i was like this is awesome and so i opened up the bivie i don't give a fuck about them skittos and I just like spill out like a fish flopping out of a fucking bag or something. I'm just like, and it was so beautiful. And then like before I know it, like it feels like, and this is something that you and Jimmy both felt too, but like the, it's like the sun sped itself through the delicious part of the day. And then the moment it broke the horizon, which like if I'm laying on the ground and noon

is straight above me, it feels like. it was probably like by 8 a.m. The sun had gone over my only motherfucking cover. And then from like what I imagine it's like 8 a.m. until 11, that felt like four times the length of when it was morning.

And then when it got to right above me, it just felt like it stayed there. Yes. For hours. And it would fuck with my mind because, but so. On that first day, basically what I did every day is I would throw something up into one of the trees. Like, someone left a sweat lodge towel at my spot.

And so I had like an extra piece of device. And so I'd throw that into one of the trees. And then it would make just a little square of shade that I would have to remove it every fucking hour. And just like try to get under the shade. And on that first day, I was meditating a lot and I was having, you know, so like incredible meditations. And what I was doing the entire first day is I was repeating a Buddhist mantra. I believe it was, oh, it's so funny, I can't remember it.

It's like, oh, Manipadmi home. Yes, it was Omane Padme home. And I would use it to just, like, I was. I used it as a gravitational anchor for my thinking. So, like, for that whole first of day, I did let myself think about things. I just kept coming back to the, and I did it the whole day.

And, um, they're, like, I definitely had a point after, like, one p.m. where I'm like, this is going to be impossible. And I kind of, like, gave up. And that's when I got my worst. sunburn is like I was just like whatever and by the end of that first day I'm looking down at my body and I'm like fuck because I am just I am sunburns from top to bottom lobster red yeah and every time I pee in my head I'm like what the fuck are you doing body

you know because like what was weird is every time I peed the amount that came out was more like through all three and a half days it was like by the and it was just nuts to watch the shade get darker and darker and darker and darker but so at the end of the first full day I had meditated a bunch I don't remember having any like profound insights other than this is the hardest thing I've ever done and nothing else is even close because there's nothing to do to mediate how you feel there's nothing you know like and so once the um sun went down on that first day i get back in the bivy and i'm just dumping sweat and there's a part of me that's like this is not good you know like i'm i'm sweating like i'm in a sauna for like the two or three hours but the one good thing about the under day one is when i looked at myself in the morning i didn't have any mosquito bites and so like I was able to deduce that that sound is them just like ramming themselves

into the net and it's just close to my ears and I don't have to give myself CTE from trying to fucking flinch the entire time but also what I noticed is by the end of that first full day my nervous system was deeply enjoying the felt sense of being held by the land and it was just like wow. And also at the end of the first day, I had this moment where there was a Merry Posa butterfly that landed right. Like I'm laying on my back just like, this is a hard. This is impossible. There's no fucking way. And it's like this butterfly just came into my field of vision and landed on a branch right in front of me. And the instantaneous like felt sense was she was saying good job. Like as I'm appreciating her, a hundred feet up higher,

there is a hawk that just starts to and just the instantaneous felt sense was like good job you know so that night when i sleep or trying to sleep i definitely heard some visitors and i wish i had had like you know like a hunting camera out there because there was one that was big and slow and i could hear by the way it would crunch the debris underneath his feet and it felt like it got close but for some reason I had such a trust in the prayer flags that it didn't scare me and then I had like two to three visitors else that night that were like small and quick and I couldn't discern what they were

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popped into my head that got me through like 1 p.m. until like 6 p.m. was i kept repeating thousands before me have done this with less and i just repeat and it made me weep and it was like Thousands have done this before me with less. And I just like, and I cried a lot that day, but not for anything other than how hard it was. I was just crying from like, this is so hard. Thousands have done this before me with less crying. And just that somehow got me through. And then that night note, and so before nighttime came, I'm back on my back, this time there's two butterflies that like come to the same.

spot and they're just hanging out there for like half an hour and then as i really appreciate them i see three hawks and like the the subjective point of view of seeing like two twirling butterflies and then three hawks just gliding it just felt like it fed me in some way and then that night i'm like i'm even more at home inside of the sauna bivvy i'm still sweating and a part of me is like it's like I'm ignoring the fact of how much I'm sweating because like and all throughout the day like if I get lazy and don't like get into that like you know small square and I let any part of myself hang out of it I just start sweating and it's like but that night something really special happened um I heard the pack of coyotes make a kill and the sound that they make when they

make a kill is unlike anything i've ever heard and it was like close but what happened in my body is there was no fear and i felt myself somehow fed by them killing something like and i could feel like in hindsight what was clear is i had no prefrontal cortex anymore there was no executive a function and but subjectively it was like I was both the pack of coyotes getting to eat and I was also the thing they killed getting to rest both of those things were like happening in me at the same time and it was really like it fed me so the last day I'm like oh it's the last day like and that's my mantra and it was kind of cool because it was kind of cloudy and the only day with clouds Yeah. And the previous day, especially the last couple of hours, I was also getting super intimate with my Chinupa, and I was praying for clouds, just like for hours, weeping, begging for clouds. And no clouds came that day, but they came the next day. And so, of course, in my dehydration and my insanity, I'm like, I did this. I need to keep praying. And so I'm praying. And I'm holding the Chinup.

And I'm just like, like, I think I came up with something that was like, um, clouds, please protect me, cover me from dawn to dusk or something like. And I just keep repeating that over and over. And the clouds, my entire consciousness is affixed upon like the movement of the clouds and where the clouds are covering the sun, just being like, and then when they would go away, it's like, I need to pray harder. And then around what felt like, like 11 a.m.

The clouds run out. And I am just forlorned, you know? Like I didn't pray hard enough. And my pee at this point is the darkest I've ever seen it. And I'm peeing more each time. And like one of the last times I peed before I came out, it was like a huge, like a huge piss. And it just, it was like brown. You know, it was like light brown.

And I never considered quitting that last day. And then when it got to about noon and the clouds were gone, at this point, I had thrown my sleeping bag, my sweater, and the towel in the tree to try to create, you know, like, and still somehow it created like the same amount of fucking shade because of the angle and everything. But around noon, I had this spontaneous noses of the phrase,

meditate in the shade of your crucifixion. Like, that was the phrase that came through. And it was this chiros moment where in some way I felt like I instantly understood Christianity in like a deeper sense. And at the same time, I understood Buddhism in a deeper sense. And I saw what they were both missing, in my opinion. which is that like what I took away from you know because the way the shit was organized in the tree is it was a cross and I'm like looking up at this cross and the felt sense is like the best articulation of my cosmology is that we are all crucified bodhisattvas and that

what I see is missing in the east is there's like what came through is they don't produce Gertas. They don't produce Shakespeare's. That doesn't produce symphonies and drama. That's something that the West does because there's this like appreciation of our crucifixions. But then what the West, most people I've met in my life, what they deeply misunderstand is that the Christmas, is the view of consciousness that Christ spoke from. It's not the man.

It's not the person. And the thing that Buddhism offers so clearly is everyone has Buddha, nature, and you can learn how to realize it. But in the West, it's like we have this capacity to savor our crucifixion and turn it into profound art. And that's not to say that the East doesn't present. produce art but there's something unique and so as I'm meditating on that my right arm starts to go numb and I and I'm laying down and there's nothing compressing my arm and I'm just like looking at my arm and just kind of like watching it like grow in its numbness and I'm there for like half

an hour and so I'm like maybe I should sit up and so I sit up and I'm feeling my arm it's still numb and then my left arm starts to go numb. And it's really weird in hindsight because my prefrontal cortex isn't working. I'm like, I'm really not even thinking. It's just I'm observing, this is really weird. I've never felt this in my entire life.

Like, both arms are just numb and there's nothing compressing. Like, I don't even have a shirt on. There's nothing compressing them. And then after I sit there for a while, I have this, like, spontaneous thought that makes me chuckle, which is I imagined what Caitlin would say if she knew that both of my arms had gotten dumb and I was continuing to stay out there.

Then I kind of had this instantaneous realization where young man Eric would have stayed for his reputation, for his status, for his like, yeah, I fucking did that. The invitation was to pick something new, which would be at the detriment of how young Eric would view his own status to choose to leave because it's what would be the best choice for me as a union with Caitlin. Because if I end up in the hospital because of this, that's not me accepting the role of fatherhood. You know, that's me, like there's that, I think it's in King, Warrior, Magician, lover, but that the difference between a hero and a warrior is that when the hero sees the impossible odds, he has to go, try to do it, and be the legend. The warrior sees the overwhelming army, and it's like, we'll wait until nighttime,

and we'll go see if there's anyone that we can capture or whatever, because we are here to protect the people behind us, not for us to die in glory and fame, blah, blah, blah. And so, like, as soon as that became clear, I was like, wow, I'm done. And there was no arguments or nothing. It was just like, no, I'm going to make this choice because this is the new path. This is the new timeline. So I, like, pray, I say thank you.

And then I get out and I get lost because this spot is a spot that I didn't know. And the only time I felt fear this whole time is what I got lost. because both my arms are none and I don't and I'm so disoriented and I don't know where anything is and I somehow end up over at Jimmy's spot trying to find the sweat lodge and as soon as I see his spot and I see how far away I am from where I was trying to go I wanted to scream for help but I didn't because I thought he was still out there and so then I just gripped the Chinupa and I just start praying like please help me find this fucking thing and like I could grab things with my hands but it was completely none you know it's like I could

still make them do stuff but I could like if I were to poke it it's like you know when you have all those that ant sensation and so that I finally find the sweat lodge and Jimmy isn't there and one of our brothers was there attending the fire and the first thing I say is where's Jimmy and I hear my voice for the first time and it was disgusting it was like this whole apparatus trying to talk with no moisture you sound like the Russian reptilian

yeah somehow worse like and and so he calls Jimmy Jimmy doesn't answer and then I'm I feel so okay so when I see him I say where's Jim Jimmy. And his first response is, um, he's not here. I'll go get him. You're the last one.

Congratulations. And my very first thought was like, fuck you. Like, he's lying to me to try to make me feel good. Like that was the very, and like a rage came out of me. That was really interesting. I didn't say fuck you, but I felt it. And then he calls Jimmy, Jimmy doesn't answer, or he calls Ken. Ken doesn't answer. And he's like, he's not answering and then he expect and I'm just like go get Ken because I can't drink until Ken you know puts me through a sweat and so he he feels my intensity and so he just starts running like he starts running towards the house and I have to sit alone surrounded by four of those huge blue gallons of water and I can't gallon jugs and I am so upset like I hate Ken you know like that's just how I feel in that moment eventually Ken comes you come Jimmy comes a few other people come they take me into the sweat and um after the first sweat it was quick I got to drink water for the first time and that first sip you were there I just started weeping and it was

the most pleasurable experience I think I've ever had like I think it eclipses every orgasm I've ever had that taste of water after those three days And that kind of completes it. You know, like there was a lot of integration afterwards, but I really feel like the main lesson was, one, all the weeping. You know, I think all these things, one of the things they do for modern people is it helps us cry. And then, too, it was to choose the new timeline where I wasn't choosing my reputation.

I was choosing to sacrifice my story of, like, I don't give up, you know, to not go to the hospital. Because I found out later that the last thing the body will do for dehydration before organs start to fail is it will cut off neuronal activity to the limbs. And so I made the right choice. You're preserving the core. Yeah. It felt really good for Ken to speak in your last one.

He said that this is the true divine masculine is knowing how to listen. even at the cost of your own, you know, how you would look or how people perceive you. And so I appreciated that, you know, because I was, I was the first to listen to that call. And Jimmy as well, and you're in all, all three of us did at varying times. So that was, it felt really good. And I've oscillated on even wanting to do it again. And I was like, damn, and I signed up for three more fucking years, you know. And if I got got on luck and I can talk anytime, what on you know, and I was like, I,

I still do. I'm still going to do it. I'm so pumped to do it again because I know what type of spot to pick now. Like I was scoping the land as we were walking back up and like, that's a good spot. That's a good spot. Yeah. I think even if I only do, if you're two, I do two days, year three, I do three, and you're four. I get four.

Fucking awesome. If I don't get four on any of these, that's awesome too because I got so much in the day. Like right when I got there, it felt I was in an altered state from right over again out of the sweat. I was in an altered state. which is a that's what you're shooting for you know um so yeah dude i mean we've only got 10 minutes here maybe we uh run it back volume 2 for full temple reset and the stuff we have coming up um in the alchemy there so i'm excited to drop into that brother we can uh we can cut this one here in the vision quest and we'll do volume 2 uh shortly when we have enough time brother cool

talk ftr we've got uh round 8 full temple reset coming up 7th to the 11th here at the far just January 7th or the 11th it will be cold so son on ice bath we ice bath in the pool that's like 38 degrees um and we'll dive in all the fun there and and uh what we have going forward because this is the year of the hermit as paul called through numerology he brought julie dean richards on they did a great podcast on the year of the hermits it was his new year's episode and he goes into the numerology of the major arcana and taro you know 2025 being the nine that is the hermit that's also my life card so you can do your birth date and actually see what your soul incarnation is.

And the hermits are a lot more complex than most people would give credit to. But really, it's about a year of going into the cave and really defining where you want to go forward, you're heading to the top of the mountain. And when the light of that lantern swells so much, you descend back down to share it with people. So I've been really cooking up what I'm doing in the wake of fit for service, and I'm excited to drop in on that. But something that we both wanted to keep going, no matter what, is full temple reset. and for many people, fasting, mimicking diet is pretty freaking hard to do, you know,

but at least you still get to sleep. At least it's, you know, climate controlled to an extent. And everything else that we do with that truly is, it's a medicinal experience, you know. It can be transformational. I don't guarantee any of that, but it can be depending on how much you put into it and if you come with the beginner's mind. So that's always something that we level up from in addition to the group that we're doing with because we fast with them, you know, while we're teaching.

if the group's small enough we'll do the sauna ice bath every day with them you know like that too has its own effect so any brother this is fucking great I love you dude

we've got three more years so we can podcast about this every year because we've got stuff I will say briefly that one of the unity pieces I had was and I've only had this come

right when they started drumming me in because I was the first guy there you hear the crows go off they went off and I was like fuck yeah dude all right we got tons of crows

and there's not a lot of crows on the land at different points of the gear but like they were there they were there to watch us and guide us and when I was laying down I could hear the crows start with me even the morning they'd start with me and then they'd go over you know the full length on the western fence checking on both you guys and then come back and keep crowing and so that felt like we're you know one of my prayers is I'm always held I'm always held by spirit and so like that was like a very definitive piece there and then I as it oscillate between light and dark this sucks this is good flies would kind of come in the bugs would come in when I was in this is

this is shit interesting and I remembered um I remembered on ayahuasca the first time with my wife where I just let flies crawl out on my face was like fucking bite me take the ayahuasca you know take it out of my veins I got to share this with you and so flies are like walking on my lips and she's like oh my god you know like it grossed her out but I was like this is bliss and so when the flies came that memory popped up and I'm stark naked and I could feel a fly on my face and a fly on my ball sack just look at it that way I was like maybe Maybe these are the little doctors, you know, the little Dr. Sito's checking on me. And the second I thought that, they didn't bite me at all.

It just tickled. It tickled in the coolest way and just unlocked a part of me where it was just, I can fully surrender this. It doesn't matter if it's flies or mosquitoes or fucking what. They're here on behalf of me. All these guys are holding us to our experience. So I got a lot from that too, brother. That's beautiful. And yeah, I'm really excited to talk about Full Temple Reset because it's the only place where I, in person, incubate like a dream container

for multiple days and it's anyone here who feels the call to have a complete physical and psychological reset at the beginning of January listen to The Whisper come

absolutely brother if people are interested go to kingsboo.com we'll link to it in the show notes and we're going to have the FTR page set up there very shortly but just send us an email you want in

and we'll lock you in for it and we're going to run this back to talk about the future so sorry we ran out of time but you know you and are busy we'll make this work i love you so much brother thank you love you too man thank you thank you volume two with eric von god it's good to be here man thank you for having me i'm happy we get to run this back you know i i do miss the days where we sell each other like six days a week for sure you know what i'm saying and it made even when those

days passed and we had uh you know our events with fit for service and i mean like the days it on it we were we had a desk right next to each other everybody knew to go draw tarot cards at godsies in the morning you know uh tell him dreams if you got them so i was like that's like your first thing you do when you get in there set our shit down at our desk and then all right let me draw a card and tell you about my dream last night that was those were cool times you know we had a really cool um a content as a think tank right because kates was right next to us and abry was right next to us and we can just barge in any time a day and be like this is what we're doing you know and we all just shoot the shit or grab lunch and that was uh that was something that i kind of i had never

experienced it before. This is my only corporate job. Same. But I hadn't, but I really had no, which is wild. It is wild. You imagine being 10 years older than you are with two kids saying that, you know? Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, that's the nature of the world shifting, right? And I think, um, anywho, my point is, I overlooked that as one of the things that I really fucking appreciated about that time until it was gone. And I was like, damn, that was cool. Because even in fit for service, we had so much, you know, we'd meet as a team and those team meetings kind of devolved

into how the business should be run and things like that. And even though we'd still crack jokes and have fun, it wasn't the same, you know. And I think in large part that's what led to, you know, the things moving apart. But all good things come to an end. And some good things still stay. So we're at full tempo reset to talk about that sticking around. And, you know, we are kind of uniquely in the same space now. Not uniquely, maybe, but we're in the similar space in that we're both looking forward

to what we're going to do in the wake of FFS. For sure. And so I'm stoked on that. Obviously, you know, this podcast is going to run back to back with the other one on the Vision Quest so we can continue to frame things in that way if you want. It's been a week in between these podcasts. We had too much shit come up and I was like, we've got to finish the deal, baby. It's all one podcast.

Yeah. So tell me, you know, a big part of your journey in the Vision Quest was coming to terms with the reality that you were no longer going to be a part of that. And I think you had a lot of FFS, a lot of tears there and a lot of alchemy, you know, and knowing, you know, like how that was. For me, that happened. It happened in December, January, and February. And it really happened at our last event in February, which had been pushed back a month.

You know, I was just like, oh, fuck. So I had less of that during this experience during the Vision Quest, but it was, you know, like, six years, right? So it was like, you know, I can't compare it to a death of a family member. I haven't had that happen yet. but it was a pretty serious fucking event. Like it took grieving and, you know, the five stages of grief, I guess. Like anger, everything came through me in that processing.

Yeah, so like the first thing that comes to mind for me is I remember one time listening to Daniel Schmockenberger talking about like win-win game dynamics. And I forget how he came to this conclusion, but him and his, you know, savant's. friends like came down to like the using game theory mathematics the longest you can have like a think tank or a group with each other that has like a 80 like the 80 20 output like the best 80 percent of what that group will do before the incentive start to devolve into like a ossified structure is seven years no sure shit and so his project i believe it's called like the conciliance project they built into their charter that they had to disband after seven years so there there is absolutely a part of me that's like this was just right timing what i felt was um as i was preparing for my vision quest i was listening to a song on repeat because i tend to do that almost like you know like a person

with asperger's or something i'll just listen to the same song for like a week and anyone who's ever been my roommate or who has been a romantic partner has a song stuck in their head because you know like for a whole week I'm just playing the same song and what was interesting is um when fit for service came to an end I I had just finished the first trilogy of the misborn books yes Brendan Sanderson yeah without giving anything away the ending of that trilogy for me is like the most Like, I can't believe the author did this, and he kept me on his side. Yeah.

And I was just, like, blown away for weeks, and every so often, it's been over a year. I'll either hear a song, or I'll be in, like, plant medicine, and I'll think about some scenes from that last book and would feel emotions in me that made no fucking sense to be feeling about a book. And what I realized was the, I'm going to have to give some spoilers a bit. So for people listening, there are some slight spoilers. So if you haven't listened to the first Miss Boren trilogy, just pause here. Yeah, but you're still going to fucking want to read these books there. Sanderson is number one in military fantasy. He's way beyond military.

It's incredible. Incredible. And he's got very big books that I've been a huge fan of. I've been talking a lot about online. These are smaller books. So they're great entry points for people that don't. don't want to say, sign me up for a 1,300 page book. You know, these are smaller books.

And the way the Miss Born series works is the first three are the OG. That's the trilogy. And then they have a secondary set, which is four books, but it's also kind of, kind in a different time and setting, right? Yeah. So, and like, if you're listening and if you respect my taste, I've reread this trilogy three times in the past year. That's how much it's touched me.

But, like, the main scene is, like, really appreciating when the two main characters finally get their dance and just, like, to know what they've been through and to know what's coming. What I realized going into this vision quest is that that story coincided with the end of fit for service, and it's like the images that my imagination created for that book, like, held in the, like, the magnificent appreciation. grief for like you know I'm a kid from a town of 7,000 people that got whist away on this fucking adventure doing stuff that in hindsight is like I can't believe we had the audacity to do it and then for it to have been this beautiful you know and just like just like incredible appreciation for how it's changed my trajectory you know like people People love, like Americans, especially in my generation, we love to hate on this country and to critique it. And that's part of the beauty of being here as we get to critique it.

But it is still the case that if every single person I know who is a first generate, who comes from, who is the child of someone who immigrated here, all of them are like, guys, this is where people want to come. because this is where there is the opportunity, unlike anywhere else in the world, where you can change your station in life through creation. You know, and it's not a perfect system, but it is still the place that many people from many countries come here for the opportunity. And it's like, the station of my life has changed so much because of what we got to do and fit for service. And so it just really like popped when I got to the final.

100 prayer tags or prayer flags where I was just weeping imagining Vin and Ellen dancing and then like that flickering in with like the last event with FFS because I finished that book at the last event oh shit like when I got back from the last event I got sick and as I was sick I'm listening to him finally taking ATM for the first time and do nothing and Caitlin walks into the room and she hear spoiler alert the only part of the whole book she hears is and then marsh cut off his head and she was like what are you listening to and they're all dead crying and um in hindsight like what i realized right before i went into this um vision quest was wow this imagery from this book was like um a a chemical jar that was like um a chemical jar that

like has been holding in my grief and my appreciation, you know, like, it's just to like zoom out for a moment, we're all going to die. And when thing ends, when something beautiful ends, like a part of the appreciation, it's like it is the other side of the coin of grief. And so I was just thankful with tears, you know. And I was just like, wow. That's dope that it came full circle that quick for, I remember when my processing was a lot of anger. and a lot of woulda coulda shudas, even though I know from Ted Decker, stop shooting on yourself.

You know, like it's just nowhere. I've also had, you know, an astrologer, a human design person, and an intuitive Mary Margrave all tell me from their own ways that 2025 through 2027 was my individuation process. Cool. Like you can still work with other people, you know? Like you'll still do FTR and things like that,

but a big piece of that is gonna be you standing on your own two feet. And I remember telling you how, the analogy I got was it felt like mama bird had kicked us out of the nest and now you got to fly or a fucking fall you know and that's a that's a hard pill to swallow when you've got to provide for a wife and two kids you know it really is all right guys quick break to tell you about qualia stem cell here's a question what if your body already had everything it needed to repair recover and renew itself it's just waiting for a little nudge that's exactly what qualia stem cell is designed to do you to do. It's not another daily pill. In fact, you only take it four days a month, and it works with your body's own natural systems to support healthy stem cell function. This pioneering formula brings together 15 carefully selected ingredients to help support useful tissue renewal, optimize muscle and tissue repair, and kickstart the body's natural healing and recovery functions. It's about unlocking the repair potential your body already has inside. So to supercharge your stem cells,

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I think it was Doystoyevsky. So, like, he would get a bunch of money from his books and he would have to go waste the money and then feel the pressure again. Spend it all on booze, just a total debauchery, right? Because he couldn't, he had no muse when he was on top. And there is a certain degree of appreciation for that analogy because I felt, you know, for a while. Not that we weren't. I mean, Fit for Service was a great catalyst for our own growth. That was expected, but not to the degree at which it changed us.

You know, like, I expected fully like, yeah, this will bring out the best of me and I'll keep reading and I'll, you know, they'll determine what I want to learn and I'll just grow from that, you know, and it was so much more than that. But, you know, Robert Kiyosaki's wife said, something, I'll paraphrase here, but like the fastest way to a slow death is a good salary. right so like you know that good seller just keeps you in just doing your thing you know for sure and um when i was a kid one of the reasons i didn't want when i was a kid when i was in college one of the reasons i decided to stop college was that i didn't want a desk job and i also

didn't want to be a hundred percent commissions because so much stress in my family came from we're rich one month we're dead poor the next two you know it's like i can't live like that dude i can't live like that when i have my kids and stuff and it's like and now here i am again Like it's 100% commission. But that is a fire that's necessary at points. You know, and I think it's a really cool fire to be a part of. When I, as I move through the anger on things, I realized the amount of motion I had behind that was because of how much I loved it

and how much it did for me, you know, being able, and I always said that, like, those events were my ceremony just as much as anyone else's, you know, every single fucking time, dude. and getting to meet the great people. I mean, we were bringing in people that we were huge fans of. For sure. You know, like, we brought Peter Cronin because we all fucking love Peter Cron. Charles Eisenstein.

So many people on the, Dr. Kelly Brogan, so many people that we were able to connect with. And what was cool is we got to vibe with them all. You know, like they all became homies. You know, like Peter Cron texts me every now and then. Not often, but every now and then. Like, that's a fucking cool thing. You know, and it happened from that. But the thing that I didn't see, and I still don't catch.

this sometimes is the people some people that stuck around we really got to know and some people like ken conti provided our fucking our vision quest for us right um jenn and jimmy jen lee i remember in toulom meeting her for the first time and i was like oh this chick's cool man cool hot asian chick from the bay you know reminded me in my high school i had 70% Asians there at monovista and just a sweetheart what a fucking bubbling personality awesome person tosh and i are godparents to her two kids with Jimmy like that's a fucking that's a tight-knit familial relationship that that was birth from that that wouldn't have happened any other way

so many people get to work with Christian pity Wyatt you know just amazing people that are super close to us now like best buds you know like I'm godparents Wyatt and Brooklyn's yeah they're fucking there and they met in FFS right Brooklyn's always a hottie telling that to Wyatt if you're listening

buddy I love how he's he's an easy one to to tease in that way. He gets worked up pretty darn quick. Anywho, though, I think that there, you told me something early on while I was still pissy. And it's really stayed with me since then because of this slow unfolding of appreciation via people like Ken and Jen and all of them, right? It was just like the, he said, what we did, we won't fully realize, it'll be 10 years from now, and we'll still be unpacking how that's impacted us. and impacted other people. For sure.

And I was like, maybe, because I was just fuming, you know, but already, you know, already that's the case through, through just the things that I just mentioned right there. You know, like, if it was just those two people, that would have changed my life, changed my trajectory. But the truth is there's dozens of people, the Bursman, so many, to name, right? But those relationships are everything, you know, like to build, and that was a side effect. I remember at first when I was talking to us, it's like, teach him, everything we know all the cool shit that's legal you know no plant medicines but we can all

tell them what to do and what to don't do if we want those kind of things and then you know it became um especially after the first year we great people from year one too like craignernberg and uh kerry brumfield dr dan ingle was around the whole time but um you know the community the community became the thing and you know it wasn't for everybody some people came and left after one summit and didn't really put into it and that's fine that's going to be the case with anything but I really do feel like I'm I the the medicine and the ROI from that time is still compounding and it's still coming forward and it still will come forward and I know a lot of people were upset you know with Aubrey's podcast and things like that um as of late and that's

been something in the wake that that that sucks it affect ob it affects me you know um but it doesn't take away from what those six years were you know it doesn't take away from what those six years were. It doesn't take away from how magical those were and everything we got to learn and take and put into our toolbox from those experiences. So I think that that is in many ways

we always say this in fighting iron sharpens iron. You know, like me training with the best guys in the world brought the best out of me. I never won a championship, but I trained with world, I was surrounded by world champions. Like that's all I trained with at AKA and then if I left, I train with other world champions. And it

made me a better person, not just a better athlete or better fighter you know and so like that that on a on a different level was iron sharpening iron in just the same way you know it made me a better person it forced me to be better it forced me to learn at a rapid pace and um my hope is that is you know i start to create this new digital community that i can garner a group of people and i know it'll happen too you know put out the golden thread and and attract all those that are you know willing to learn and grow together but that creation of the community will be the thing that's that's that outdoes everything else more than any one particular teaching more than optimizing the body

and the mind more than how we connect to people or how we prepare for an ever-changing world so that's exciting but i mean that's literally i'm taking that right from the playbook from ff s because that was something that i i didn't expect going into it and in the end it was like wow that was everything yeah like before fit for service i was um committed to never recording my voice on camera because i had a better. And now I lead multiple communities with my voice, even though I, you know, have this current, like, spasmodic dysphonia thing. And it's like, it's because I got to see what happens in person when you share your stories and you actually, like, let people see you. And, like, I really see fit for service as, like, the insanely unique graduate school I got to go to.

like and now I'm a thing that like um you know it's effortless for me to start colts now you know and so I'm really enjoying we got our doctorates in cult cultology 100% so you've already had you know your Dharma artist collective you had started earlier and um that's awesome because you're you know amongst other things teaching people how to fucking knuckle down in a technology driven world right how to how to gain access back to their focal points. What are they attuning to? What are they literally paying attention to, right?

And everything they say, oh, it's data driven. No, it's an attention market, right? It's an attention market. And giving people back their own free will, in a sense, on how to use that attention, I think, is a true gift. Talk a bit about that. And then let's talk full temple reset. And I'll talk a little about what I'm creating as well, brother.

Yeah. So basically what I'm, trying to do with everything I do is I'm trying to make Mahayana Buddhism feel like 90s anime hip hop culture like I'm just trying to like trick people into waking up in this lifetime and a huge part of trying to wake up in this lifetime that like we have a new boss in the room that didn't exist like samsara is hard enough you know like Like, that's what Buddhism has been trying to help people with for thousands of years. But within the last 25 years, there's a whole new boss, and it's what I call the shimmer.

The average person checks their phone 210 times a day. If you check your phone 210 times a day and you sleep for eight hours, which the average person doesn't, the average person is sleep deprived. But let's just say that you sleep for eight hours. if you check your phone every 210 times a day you're checking your phone on average 4.9 times a minute or every five minutes i'm sorry so you're checking your phone almost every five minutes it takes about 10 to 15 minutes for the brain to drop into a complex task because basically what the brain does when you try to do something complex is it slowly starts to turn off the neural networks that don't complement to the task and to turn on all the neural networks that complement the task.

If it takes about 10 minutes to drop into a complex task, the average person checks the phone every five minutes. The average American is perpetually distracted. And there's a whole bunch of research that reflects that this is awful. And not only is this awful, this has never been the case in human history for us to be this distracted. And in the same way where I think, and you can speak on this much more eloquently than me, but it's like if you don't work out slash move at least like 10,000 steps a day, everything starts to get wonky in you. If you don't get eight hours asleep a day, everything starts to get wonky in you. I think one of the not yet properly identified fundamental metrics of human health is to drop into deep focus for at least a couple of hours

a day. And the reason I think this is what makes Homo sapiens unique amongst all animals is that we were persistent hunters. No other animal hunted the way that we hunted back before we had language. And persistence hunting is where we would jog behind a larger animal for about five to six miles on average until it passed out from heat exhaustion and then we would kill it as a group. Because we hunted that way, that molded our minds to work a very specific way. And it molded our bodies to require a certain type of stimulus to be fully awake. For example, there's research that shows that if you get less than 5,000 steps a day, you're statistically significantly more likely to be anxious and depressed. But if you get more than 5,000 steps a day, that

likelihood plummets. And it's because I think it's getting us closer to what this Mitsu is supposed to do. And I think focus is the same way and I think it's something that researchers haven't quite caught up to. I think we're getting close, especially with books like Jonathan Heights, The Anxious Generation. So I basically have created a community that the most effective way to teach someone something is to imbue the teaching into the logic of a game

and there's research that shows that children even before they can articulate the rules of a game if you give them a game they will unconsciously absorb the rules and then if you ask them what are the rules they'll make shit up that's wrong

but they'll play the game correctly and what that shows and this comes from the research The research of Jean Piaget is that there's something in our cognition that can absorb the rules of a game before we can articulate it. And so I think that's evidence that the most effective way to teach someone something is with a game. What's interesting about that is that the most, the oldest games we have in recorded history, like not history history but since we started recording

is a go and chess both of those imply war so those are like so that's deep in our unconscious is like

oh no I have I am in a zero sum game against an opponent and I have to take their pieces and take their land so anyways I created a game that basically tricks people into focusing and And much to my surprise, out of everything I've taught, you know, this thing I call

Darmosporants, people just are in love with. But really, it's like, co-working with, like, alcoholic, anonymous, like, shares at the end. So how was that for you trying to focus for two hours? And, you know, people, at least one person cries every other day when they share at the end, you know, because in the same way, like, it's so fucked but like someone who's sleep deprived will score on cognitive tests akin to someone who's drunk but their capacity to notice that their cognition is dramatically decreased they can't notice it and they've done tests on this and it's because the thing that is affected is the thing that

would notice the decrease in performance. And this is the same for people who are perpetually distracted. What it's called in cognitive psychology is multitasking. And this is one of the things that people hate me talking about this. But let's just go through this quick and I'll try to make it clear. It is a robust cognitive fact that you cannot truly multitask. And what that means is your conscious mind is like. eyesight and you can't use the focal point of your eyesight to focus on two things at one time. Try.

That's not how it works. But you have a focal point in your vision and then you have peripheral vision. And so just like that with our attention, we have our attentional system, which is the focal point. And then we have awareness or the subconscious, which is a bunch of other stuff. so you can technically multitask if you have competence at something that's so deep that you can do it without your attention on it so like driving and exactly exactly but you cannot read an email and listen to a podcast at the same time for everyone here who listens to nonfiction and then does anything else you're masturbating you're not retaining almost anything and this is the whole thing but people who multitask who perpetually multitask

it takes them on average twice as long to complete a task as someone who doesn't multitask their performance on that task is substantially lower than someone who doesn't multitask and then when you ask them how they did on the test the multitaskers will inflate their results results akin to someone who is high on cocaine. Like ECHAs and what a lot of people don't know, Adderall and things like Adderall don't actually improve your performance on cognitive tests. What they do is they improve your belief about how well you did. And so why that's helpful for people with ADHD is it gives you more motivation to stay on task.

But compared to someone who's not on it who can just do the fucking task, your performance doesn't improve. I want to, let me jump in just for a second here because this is a big one. As a fellow, you know, senior at Arizona State University, number one party school in the nation, I did all the recreational drugs.

And one of the things that I loved when I was young because I had no confidence around women is how cocaine gave me confidence. You know, it just did. It was just like the right dose, not too much, not where my jaw's moving and I'm sweating and I turned pale like a vampire, but like the right dose,

I could fucking have fun and truly feel confident in the president. presence of hot women. Yeah. And I think there's something to all stimulants, to a lesser or greater degree, right? So, you know, Adderall, Vivance, these things are amphetamines, right? They're longer acting, but they're still going to hit similar receptor sites akin to Coke.

For sure. And I'm guessing that that in part is why the confidence boost is there. Now another thing I want to add on these substances, if you read and you will, as an upcoming father here, be reading a lot of this stuff from Leonard Sacks. Leonard Sacks is a PhD in psychology and a family medicine doctor, MD. He wrote Girls on the Edge, Boys Adrift, and my favorite is the collapse of parenting. In all these books, he talks about boys are more likely to be prescribed the ADHD medications. And in that, though, when they come off, their drive, their fucking inner fire to get shit done is evaporated.

It's not there anymore. And it can be that way for fucking decades. decades if they don't address it. Consider that. So like if you're a kid and you were put on these medications, this is stuff you want to find out about because you don't want to just like and sit on the couch playing video games all day long and watching U-Porn and not, you know, trying to work towards a relationship and start trying to work towards building something. Don't check out. They want you in the metaverse. They want that to happen, right? But that's a wild thing to consider. You're not actually getting smarter. You're just getting more self-confident. And when that train stops,

there's a consequence to pay. 100%. And for anyone listening who's in that boat, Kyle, maybe you'll know exactly what the brain structure is, but the most effective way to begin to reignite that flame is something that Andrew Huberman talked about with David Guggins, where they're recently in just the last like two years, there's a part of the brain that has been discovered in research that changes in its size per day

depending on if you do something you don't want to do. Death cookies. Yeah. And I came up with the, like, the death cookie thing is, um, it's a idea from Phil Stutz. So the credit goes to Phil Stutz, but I've made it a fundamental part of this cult that I've created, which is like the cult is hey learn to focus and eat death cookies but the idea of a death cookie is in as soon as you hear the whisper of your intuition or your soul invite you to do an action and you don't do it it's like there's a magnet that's cast it outside of you that starts to

pull your life like a fragment of your life force into it and the longer you procrastinate on that thing, the more life force it takes from you. But the good news is, as soon as you do that action, not only do you reclaim all the life force that it took, but you get like 1% new life force because you went beyond your current domain. And then Huberman, you know, made famous on a podcast with Goggins that there was research that's cutting-edge research that shows that, for example, If you like to ice bath, and you ice bath, if you are excited about ice bathing and you ice bath, even if it's really hard, it doesn't activate this part of the brain. You have to subjectively not want to do something. That's me.

Five days a week right now. And then you make yourself do the thing. And it stimulates this part of the brain, which they correlate with the drive to stay alive, the will to live. and there was like you know there's studies where you can cut open someone's brain or their skull they stay conscious and then you electrocute a part of the brain and you ask them questions and so when this part of the brain was electrocuted in a man he was like I feel like a storm's coming and I just want to run into it you know like that's the subjective feeling so the surface level takeaway from this is you can stoward

your drive for life and it will grow as quickly as the day you begin by doing things you don't want to do that you know are good for you what I think is missed in this is this is a physical discovery of the brain that is proof of subjective experience you know so like for the nerds out here or for the people who are not nerds for the longest time there are the majority of mainstream psychology is like the subjective experience is kind of made up and you know like really it comes down to what does the brain do and what are the correlates with brain activity and what people's behaviors are this part of the brain and how it responds specifically that it responds to the subjective affect of whether or not

you want to do something, to me, that is evidence of the soul, that that brain structure is confessing that there is an internal experience, which is, one, it confesses that there is an internal experience, which is, you know, for a lot of people in science, that if they allow just that in, that would change their worldview. But it also confesses that there is a preference in the internal experience, and that if you go against the preference, you actually stimulate the growth. And that to me is evidence of the soul. Like our life is a perpetual,

every day is an arena where we get to make choice. And it's not so much. And I'm going down a lot of rabbit holes because I'm currently teaching mentally fit. And so I have all this shit just like ready to talk about. And I'll rate it in so we can get to Full Temple Reset. But every day you have choices. A lot of people think that, like, I don't want to use the term muggles,

but there's a lot of people who don't investigate their inner experience who think they have total free will. And then they project that onto other people, and then they use it to judge people like, you know, blah, blah, blah. People who get into self-reflection, they kind of fall into the pit of nihilism because you can very quickly see that you don't have complete free will. There's all this shit that is impinging upon your choice.

But then I think the Trump card is Victor Frankel, in Auschwitz, saying that the last of the human freedoms is man's ability to choose his response to any given situation. And so what this part of the brain confesses is that you get to choose, is it comfort or is it soul? And I think that it's like that every day until we die. It's like comfort or soul. Yeah, and so that's death cookies, and I think it's pretty cool. And so, yeah, I just basically have a cult of people who I try to trick and to focus doing things they're afraid to do, and people seem to love it. You guys know I've tried just about everything when it comes to human optimization,

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I remember when you first talked about it and I was like, what is mine? I'm thinking about it. And then the biggest death cookie for me has been it's not the darkness retreat because I've had my fear of it, but I've also haven't had a draw to it. But I have had a draw to the Vision Quest for years

and a big fear of it. It's like that for sure was a big death cookie and there's three more opportunities for more death cookies. One thing I want to mention was in one of Greg's Braiden's books that I just finished in his audio collection. It's a series of short books that I really appreciate. He talks about the Ascenes giving us five, and I won't mention all five, but he gives us five technologies from Christ, you know, how to live better, to live in compassion. And he says, one, don't draw a blank now. Damn it.

Which one was it? Oh, there is only one. There is only one, right? There is one consciousness animating all things. That's the first one. but the second one instead of thinking of life as a test you know like in the west oh god's testing me right now or uh he says we don't look at that we look at it as they are opportunities to display mastery oh right and that's really when you choose soul it's an opportunity to display mastery and it's all a

game of self mastery and i really up for that one fucking just do like i could feel it i was like wow and he said you know in any of these five things you could spend lifetimes coming into full nosis of that, right? Like lifetime, for a lot of people. You mentioned there's one consciousness, we're all one, to truly understand that and say yes to it. That's a mind-fucking a half, dude. You know, like that does take lifetimes.

I'm still oscillating, you know, between the other and like that's other self. They talk about it in the law of one, the raw contact, and many other great teachings. But point being, any one of those five can take lifetimes. And what are you saying now is that we are being asked, can we work with all five of those? this lifetime. That's the question. And so it's really, really cool, but I thought that was super empowering. All challenges are an opportunity to display mastery. And I think if we're

selecting for the soul, that is the opportunity to display self-mastery. And if the soul is eternal, it fucking wants novelty. It doesn't want comfort. It doesn't want to just hang out and skate through life. It wants new experience, even if it's, especially if it's challenging, especially if it's fucking, you know, hair raising on the back of your neck and you're scared and your butt holes puckered. Like, that's what it's all about, saying yes to that. And the juice on the other side of that, it's self-evident. You know, I mean, whole books are written on that.

The obstacle is the way. And I think that's kind of reading that felt elementary to me because I've lived it. But to many people, it's not. Like, that's their whole education is just saying yes to that thing. And it could be something small like an ice bat, but it's funny because I just started getting into ice bathing regularly pre-cooling. Dr. Thomas Seeger is going to come on the podcast. and dude that is wild before lifting weights before boxing before running and I never want to get in the fucking ice bath cold it's easy to come in out of the sauna dead and be like all right

I'm a fucking kill this ice bath but before anything else especially when it's 40 degrees and blowing wind in my face and it's like I got I got to fucking do it I got to do it and then you get through that and it's like wow the reward on the other side post workout with pre-cooling it's in its own league you know it really is it's such a unique feeling to get cold and then to work out and I leave the gym and it's hard to describe what it feels like it's like I can cognitively feel the like stressed tissue but somatically it's hard it's so hard to describe it feels like it's encased inside of like a suit of healing like from the cold like I don't know I've only done it for a few days now I think too that the the the way

the neurochemistry shifts, right? Because you're stacking things. A cold bath in and of itself changes neurochemistry for the better. It wakes you up. It centers the nervous system. If you're freaked out, like, it's better than Ashwaganda, you know.

And then you stack that with a good workout, not too much, not too little. You know, what you're left with is a pump, a runner's high, some type of exchange in the brain that's stacked on top of what the ice bath does and the ramping up of mitochondria. And that stays with you.

Like, it's a, it just doesn't have, doesn't just fade away, like when you get back into your car and leave or, or, you know, when you hit the showers, like, that's with you all day long. And so, I mean, I've been a huge fan of that. And there's many things like that, though. It's not just like, oh, hey, everybody do this one thing that we're into. It's like, try that. But also, there's a whole list of shit, and you're going to know which one's most important for you because that's the thing that's calling you to do it, right? And it might be for some people, like Rogan's been doing that for years. He read Thomas Seeger on the Moroscoe site and just started giving it a try. So that's

nothing to him. But for a lot of us, there is, you know what's top of the list. You know what's important now. And the thing that's been so interesting is I've been talking about this death cookie idea for like two years now. And it pisses me off so often because whenever I'm foggy, whenever I feel like I'm having a bad day, as soon as I make my myself do something that I don't want to do that's on my list of things and then I feel the fog lift and I feel the like my disgruntleness change it pisses me off how effective it is and how subtle you forget like it happens to me every week oh like I'm like you know I need more caffeine or I go to my motherfucking to do list and I send the email

I haven't sensed. And I can feel it in my body. There's just this clarity. And it's so settled in, you know, because in the fit for service space and now in my mentally fit class, I do hours of Q&A. And it's like almost every question,

the implied question is, hey, I'm not willing to do a death cookie, but I have this question instead. You know, and like, then by the end of class, what always starts to happen is people start to answer their question as they're asking it and they're like oh fuck yeah that i just have to go talk to my partner or i have to send the email or i have to do my taxes that happens a lot with spirit jim with check too in his Q&As

they get to like the uh yes i see what it is now that's brilliant though i mean there's no better way to teach than to let people figure it out for themselves you know to let it come from within i was just thinking i've been doing posts i did a post on fasting and how important it is and just, you know, when I really think about what levers can we pull that we're in charge of, you know, you go back to Inside Out, you know, where you got the keyboard for the brain and the emotions and this kind of thing. It's like, what can I pull epigenetically that will create lasting change within the body and the mind? And I think fasting must be at the top of the list. It has to be because nothing else will last six to 12 months in benefit, right? And we know from Walter Longo's research

with fasting mimicking diet, which is what we do at Full Temple Reset, There's a six to 12 month change. And I propose that it's 12 months if you don't eat like an asshole. It's only six months if you eat like an asshole. But still, that's a lot. To get six months of benefit from five days of changing your diet, that really is a big lever. And then what are those other levers? You know, this is what I was thinking about on a soul wander in Sedona when I was creating this.

And the big levers are sauna nice bath. The big levers are sound healing. The big levers are mobility. how can I get this body to be more free? You know, I've always said that your body is either a prison cell or it's your gateway to freedom. And especially, I mean, then on multiple levels, physically for sure.

When I'm in pain, I'm not the same guy that I normally am. Sure. If I'm stiff, I can't dance and move. I can't play with my kids the way that I want to. My emotional intelligence is dumbed down when I'm beat up and I'm not open, right? But as I open the body, then only is that clearing chakras,

that's clearing me. It's clearing me in a way that's more receptive and more open to the challenges of life and to the people I give a fuck about. And so I think stacking all these things have been such a cool thing for me personally, but the big stacks that came in that were unrecognized in the beginning was when you wanted to come to it. And I was like, yeah, man, teach the journaling thing. And you're like, dude, I really want to teach the Jungian dream analysis. I want to teach people how to analyze their own dreams. And getting through seven or eight of these, like, Like, it is wild to see what happens over the course of five days while we're tuning the body in, right? We're doing a lot to tune the body in.

We're taking space from other things, right? It is a ceremony. But then just with the intention, when you set your intention and your psyche knows you're trying to make contact, how much that affects people through the course of that week. 100%. Yeah, there's so many things here. So, like, the first one is, um, what I have found from trying many, many different types of initiatory experiences is that, um, there is a unique deliciousness to the darkness retreat, to the vision quest, and to fasting. And it's because in our hyper-stimulated, oversaturated, input system, like environment, the initiations that don't, add anything but remove something that you previously thought was fundamental

massively amplifies people's capacity to hear the whisper you know and so I heard someone mentioned this like a week ago but like um your soul's always present it's just that it whispers and the whisper is often quieter than your fear it's often quieter than your perpetual busyness you know and the average person in our

culture has been gaslit into thinking that if they're busy they're optimized to get it done

right go go go go and it's wild to me how many people I know who have done ayahuasca

who have done Wachuma mushrooms DMT 5MEO but who haven't fasted and who

you know But when I talk about fasting, they kind of like sheepishly laugh, you know, because they're afraid of it or something. And it's like, for me, like, some of the most freeing things that ever happened to me was like the first time I ecstatic danced, it fucking freed something in me. The first time I fasted for more than a day freed something in me where it's like, yo, I know that I can just not eat if there is nothing healthy around. You know, like I can do it.

And now, the Vision Quest has taught me that I can go a few days without water. And it's wild how many people, you know, reached out to me. And it was like, it's impossible to go more than three days without water. And it's like, well, you know, not true. But also what I have found, and because of Full Temple Reset is the first time I got to experience this. But once you get a group of people, and once you get a group of people together, and you invoke the intention for our dreams to make contact with us, and the dreamer knows that it's going to get honored,

shit comes up. And, like, just a couple of examples. There's someone who came through Full Temple Reset, and because of the dream work, he finally admitted to his wife of, like, 15 or 20 years, and they have like four kids together that he had been cheating with prostitutes and it was because of the dreams

damn it's because it made and you know he went through a whole death rebirth with his wife another the happiest they've ever been we've had multiple people who were like

like disregulated atheists flirting with like neurotic conspiratorial worldviews that because of the dream work, they were able to, like, forgive their dad or whatever the thing is to, like, you know, come back and actually try again in the game of life. And multiple people who, you know, like have traumas with child of things that I won't mention. Like, what I have found is that the best healer for every person is their dreamer.

Because the thing in us that generates our dreams, one, it's intelligence. Two, it is not PC. It is not politically correct. And three, it seems like its fundamental disposition towards people is to, because it loves you so much, and because it knows you more deeply than anyone else, else in your life can know you, it calls out your blind spots, like perpetually.

And so, like, a big thing that happens is if you have recurring dreams or nightmares, learning how to communicate with your dreams, you know, I've helped hundreds of people just heal their recurring nightmares. And it's not, I'm not doing it. I'm giving them permission that, one, there's something happening here that's meaningful. Two, there is a grammar to interpreting symbols. And three, you're safe. This thing loves you. Every nightmare you've ever had has been your dreamer artistically trying to get you to notice something that in your waking life you perpetually look away from. And then just to

amplify that with fasting, it's gorgeously beautiful every time that we get together. Yeah, the depth, I think, is one that I hadn't anticipated, you know, and not just in the experience of everybody who comes through there, but in the personal experience as well, you know, like we go through these together, we fast with the group, we do all of it with them, and, yeah, that first water after the, after the television class is like, there truly is nothing like that. But the first time we eat, you know, we feast from food off the land together as a squad. there's a great appreciation there too, you know, every flavor, you know, Tasha's chocolate moose, like it's just fucking a symphony in your mouth. And there's a really, for me, an interesting way to reconnect to what I'm putting in my body. Because I know enough about, you know, what my body wants when I'm eating correctly, what is the safest way for me to cheat and not throw, you know, caution to the wind, but not hurt myself, cheating on bad

food, you know, where can I eat a pizza that's not going to fuck me up for four days? I've learned all that stuff. And I've played with the continuous glucose monitors. I've seen like what is it, what is a death sentence for me and what isn't. But there is a retuning that happens in the absence of food, right? And that the retuning happens on every level, right? It's not just a physical thing where like my taste buds shift. That's guaranteed. But that's still something where it's like, wow, that really does matter. In a world where everything is frankenfoods, hyper-engineered to, to, once you pop, you just can't stop. You know, like, it's designed that way on purpose.

For sure. To get a reset on that is super important for palate, but also for the brain. You know, like, we're able to see things we normally can't see. We're able to think outside the box. The fact that we still get some calories through the fasting, mimicking diet allows us to sleep at night. If you do water fast, you're not sleeping after a couple days. Your body's like, hey, you're starving. Get up and go forage.

So it's nice that we get to have our cake and eat it too, right? can still sleep at night. You can still have a little coffee in the morning to get you through the day and to keep your brain switched on while you're learning all this stuff. And I just love, I love that it's a true immersive, right? We've had as low as, as few as nine people. We've had as many as 33, but it's always a small group. And it's an awesome group. And this year's the first year where we are opening up bedrooms here on site. So the first 25 people that sign up We'll have a room to stay in here, bed to stay in here. You may have a bunk made, but you're going to have a place to stay.

So we're able to cover that as a part of the cost. I'm really excited for that. And we'll do it again with my event with Connor. So I'm excited. These are now pieces we can help leverage. I know a lot of people. Times are tough. Inflation is ridiculously real, you know.

But when it comes to eating a death cookie that can change your life going forward and empower you going forward in a very rapid way that's lasting, I mean, this is one of the best ways, in my opinion. That's why I created it. I wanted to do all this shit in a five-day span, and I had mastery in different aspects, but it never put them all together at the same time. And you've added so much to that, brother.

I mean, it's been fucking awesome getting to do this with you. It's an honor. And, like, the way I would offer people to think about it is, um, one, five days with a group of people can improve your base love. metabolism for six months that's fact two because of inflation like what one of the best places to invest your money is acquiring the knowledge that leads to compounding behavior change for the improvement of your health and just the harsh fact is that in our culture we're the we are the sickest we've ever been

physically and if you want like a 10x compounding experience for your health this is the event like this is the thing to invest in and if the idea of coming creates like a tickle in your stomach it's for you like one of the things like I love I have fallen in love with selling to people now because I recognize like a few things one if you actually believe in what you're offering fucking sell it like you fucking believe in what you're offering and just trust that like the people who it's not for it's not going to do anything in their system but for the people that it makes uncomfortable it's for them that's why they're uncomfortable like the way our reticular activating system

works is that you aren't going to notice a hard sell if it's not for you, you know, and so like that's given me permission to, like, here are some of my favorite things to tell people when there are like a call with me where I'm offering something that I've worked years on honing. So one is if the government increased the percentage of your taxes where by the end of the year you had to pay the exact amount in taxes that this investment, you know, for example, full temple reset costs. would you pay that tax or would you go to jail?

You would pay the motherfucking tax. You wouldn't go to jail. So the version, the voice in your head that says that you don't have money for this is a lie. Because you wouldn't go to jail. So then it becomes, is this worth it to you or not? And that's on us to convince you. Two is, my life changed the first time I invested money. in myself by paying for a program. And it was Ramit Settis, like $2,000 course for how to launch an

online business. I think I was like 24 or 25 or something. The first time I saw the price tag, I literally jumped up from my computer in a trauma response and turned off the screen and started to walk around like I had just been in a fight. Because of my relationship to money and because I wanted what he was offering, that price tag of 2000 caused like a fear response, like I just got into a fight. And because I was so naive to like email funnels, I didn't know that like, I thought he was emailing me. That's how naive I was back when I was like 24, 25. And to his credit, I got like 12 more emails over the course of two months where he kept giving me value and I would read every email and then I click on the thing and it would scare me and I'd be like I fucking hate this dude like he he he tricked

me and then finally he I opened an email probably about like six weeks later where he was like this course will cost you the equivalent of buying a shitty coffee every other day for the rest of the year at the moment I saw it compared that way I was like oh my god I'm going to buy this course and I bought it and then I don't know why but I just went outside and I called my mom and I was like mom I just bought this course for $2,000 and it's going to teach me how to create online business and she was like uh that's great honey but I don't have any extra money to send you and I realized I wasn't calling her for help I was calling her because I wanted her to know that I had invested in myself and it was such a foreign experience and I didn't even finish the course it wasn't

even that great it wasn't bad it just wasn't that great but it changed my disposition towards what to do with my money you know because like I still hesitate to buy a shirt you know because every time I see a shirt and it's a hundred bucks or 80 bucks I'm like there's no I'm not paying that But I have, for sure, like, for me, anytime I feel caught, anytime someone recommends a book, I buy it. I don't even think about it. And then anytime someone recommends something to me that feels like it will improve my health, if it resonates with me, that's where I splurge. That's where I'll spend money, you know.

And this is definitely something that if you're listening to this now, it will improve your health. And not only will it improve your health, but if you don't have an active relationship to your dream life, that's an extra cherry on top that will feed you for the rest of your life. Yeah, and, you know, I remember the first time you started to compare the understanding of dreams is something that can help you with unpacking ceremonies, right? The downloads, the visions, whatever you want to call these things, because those are always speaking in symbols. as well. 100%. Right? And I think that's a fantastic piece for people to have, but, you know, there's a natural

progression to, you know, and I did it myself. You do, I always say, holy shit, this exists. Well, beat the drum. And then, you know, it, at a certain point, isn't what it once was. Or you see other people kind of go off the rails. So it's a little bit more cautionary. But these things that we can have access to, meditation, right? Every fucking day I meditate now, now that I know how to.

Same. Um, and, and very well, you know, like, that's my communion with God time, right, which is what the plant medicines were in many ways and still are when I, when I choose to, when I like to do it, I feel called. But the ability to, to work with your dreams is the ability to receive consistent downloads from your high self, every fucking night if you want. For sure. Right?

Every night, multiple times a night if you want. And I think that's a true gift because, you know, somebody tells you all the medicine's in you. You're like, and you don't recognize that. You're like, fuck off. The medicine's in the Amazon. I'm going to go drink that medicine and then the medicine will be in me. But at a certain point, you're like, oh yeah, that is in me. My connection, that was a big part of my, my journey, you know, in the vision quest was that God's only a whisper away. And that's also a misnomer. God's nowhere, but here, everywhere. But answers I'm seeking. Connection is a whisper away, right? It's just literally just a whisper away. But I feel like

The skills and tools that we bring to the table in these five days are ways in which we unpack that relationship further. We polish it in a way where now it's accessible to people. You know, something we've both done from our own angles since the beginning of fit or service, we've reconnected people to their intuition, right? And that can't be overstated. You know, it really can't because it is that I'm reading Yoganana's book, The Second Coming of Christ, like he has a whole fucking chapter on the importance of intuition. as being the governing faculty of knowing you're in Christhood.

That's the listening to the soul. The soul needs no information. It's faster than a quantum computer. It knows through intuition. And you know automatically. If you listen to that, you just know. You don't need to fucking figure out why you know or all the details behind that.

You know because you know. And I think that there's such a cool and unique opportunity for people to be able to connect to that through these practices. and then to have those skills going forward is a true gift. You know, it adds a lot to the toolbox. Yeah, and it's why I love being called a cult leader. Because I, like, it's like, if someone calls you like a fat midget, it's just funny, you know, because anyone who hasn't met Kyle, he is the antithesis.

And, like, since I've started, quote, unquote, being a coach, which I never intended to, me which is so interesting and i don't even really think of myself as a coach i think of myself as a journalist who shares his strategies but i care i don't want you know like i there's a part of me that i'm grateful for where it's like i don't want any new friends i'm full so if someone comes in and projects their golden shadow on me my highest intention is like that's That's you, motherfucker, and here are the eight techniques that you can do to amplify your intuition, you know, and when it comes to dream work, like, I love listening to people's dreams. It's funny, most people hate listening to other people's dreams, but like two times a month in my different, like, spaces, I'll host like a four-hour dream call, and I'll listen to, like, 50 people's dreams. I could go longer.

Like, it just, it feeds me. But it's because I view every dream as, like, every person has a super genius behind them that only speaks and symbol. And they're all creating, like, Shakespearean Brandon Sanderson-ask stories for you. That if you unpacked, it would make you feel kind of sick in your tummy because of, you know, it's like, a person who really sees you, you know, who's like, hey, I saw the way you talked to your kid yesterday. Here's a dream for it. And that, like, it's a infinitely, it's a continuous back and forth as opposed to like doing ayahuasca. You can't do it every day. But the beautiful thing about dream work is, like, even if you come to this event and I misinterpreted a dream for you, you'll have a

dream that night where your dreamer will show you in symbols like no he's wrong and it's like i bless that and i want that and ultimately and this has always been like my goal for fit for service which made it a bad business model but it's like yo my intention is for you not to be here next year and if you want to come back cool but i'll tell you again my intention is for you not to come back. And I've always found that getting people to have a living relationship with their dreams is the most effective way to get them to quote unquote not come back. And what's interesting is in this past year, I've gotten back into lucid dreaming. And so I'm absolutely going to teach lucid dreaming techniques at this next full temple reset. Because I have personally

healed my, there's a really interesting like spiritual blind spot with lucid dreaming, where most spiritual people who are into dreams think that learning to lucid dream is like too masculine, or it's the dominator culture, or it's the ego contaminating, blah, blah, blah. And it's like, or you're afraid of the discipline required and what will happen if you become conscious in your dreams, because at the end of the day, try to control your dreams when you're lucid. Even when you're lucid, it's like you can pick where you fly, but you can't pick what the video game will render as you move across the horizon, no matter how lucid you get.

So you don't ever get full control. And it's like, if you actually believe that your dreams are sacred, wouldn't you want to be conscious so that you can rock what the divine is dropping on you? And as someone who has lucid dream, many times, it's like, I dare you to wake up in the dream and then ask your dreamer what it's trying to tell you. Because it's not like a video game where you get to just do what you want. You know, it's like 5MBO alien, you know, machine elves. And then Terrence McKenna and Alan Watts are talking to you at the same time. And so I'm super excited because I did an event here a few months ago where, I experimented for the first time trying to teach people to lucid dream in a group.

It was incredible. I think like six of the 29 people there had their first lucid dream in the container. And yeah, so if you're interested in learning how to lucid dream, that will be taught at this full-temple reset. So when is it and how much does it cost and where can people sign on? We'll have it in the show notes for the link. It'll be on kingsboot.com. The page is almost done now, but either way, you can go to kingsbrew.com, send us an email saying you want in for full Temple reset.

January 7th to the 11th at the farm here in Lockhart. Like I said, first 25 people will get a bed to stay in, and you can stay on site. I know that'll help cover quite a bit of the cost. It's $3,000, as always, three grand flat. That'll include your shakes. It'll include all the activities. So, you know, that's basically all you got to pay for. We'll have water and coffee and all the other stuff provided.

in the food, the only small amount of food we get to have each day, the organic shake. If anybody's got food intolerances or issues like that, that's never a problem. These are custom made for us. They're made, you know, each one is made that evening. And we can tinker and make it vegan. We can make it whatever you need to make sure that you're still getting the correct macros that puts you in a deep state of ketosis, but also nourish the body as we go through it. So whatever excuse you have in your head, trust me, this is we've worked through these things

in the past. you know and i honestly like as power as fast as powerful as fasting is we have had people come through who couldn't fast and just wanted to be there for the rest of it and that was totally okay um one was a woman who was really thin on the thin side and it just didn't it didn't seem correct to have her do that so we let her know to eat during the day and that she could still have a shake with the crew at night and um and it worked out great for her another person um couldn't get the electrolytes balanced right, you know, and was having a lot of issues. We do have medical staff on site who provide IVs for people. There's upgrades to glutathione and NAD. Whatever you want to do,

if you really want to go for it, that's available at its own cost. But the point being, there is supervision for this, right? And we're making sure that there's no stone left unturned in terms of the quality and the care that goes into our event. So I'm stoked for it. January 7th to the 11th, peep it in the show notes. Kingsbow.com is where you'll find it. and yeah and it's a huge upgrade that people are going to be able to stay on site for the same price we used to do it and like the first 25 people who sign up the connections you're going to make with those other people staying in the same place like I'm super pumped I didn't know that this was a part of the new offering and that's incredible yeah it's a big deal and I'm excited for it we just got to do that for the first time with my event with Connor Mills The Rising, which happened to fall in the right smack dab in the middle of Burning Man. So we missed out on a few people because of that. But we're running that back in April.

Again, kingsboo.com will have all this stuff up there. And we're out of time. But I do want to talk about my community for a second. This is something that I've had the year as the year of the hermit to really sit and marinate on. And, you know, something I've always appreciated in fit for service was that we would kind of come together as coaches and decide what do we want to teach on as we started to teach, you know, the wheelhouse stuff, mentally fit, got thrown in your lap for obviously reasons

and, you know, physically fit was thrown in my lap for obvious reasons. And that was great. And I got to hone that real, how do I simplify this into nine, you know, nine different key points here that we can cut through that will elevate people the quickest. And I enjoyed that. But now I can teach way beyond that. And those are the things that I really appreciate, you know, still the body's a cornerstone, a foundational piece. How do we work with the mind? And, you know, what does that actually look like archetypically? What does it look like to meditate or to contemplate or concentrate? What type, what is the nature of our reality?

Robert Anton Wilson, right? Like, if we can fundamentally understand what reality tunnels is telling us, then that changes, you know, it gives us the key to the castle. And through different people like Greg Braden and Joe DeSpenza and Bruce Lipton, there are great teachers that have come across that can help us along the way very rapidly start to shift what we're creating in our lives. And, you know, what is all that? that for. It's about connection. It's about how I relate to myself, how I relate to others.

How do I communicate with my parents? I've done all this work, but they always fuck me up. Really? Well, there's still work there. How do I connect with my parents? As a parent, how do I connect to my kids? So my kids don't hate me when they're teenagers. You may have teenagers. How do you repair that? And I don't have answers to everything, but I do have a lot of tools that will help give you guys your own answers. So I'm pumped for that. I'm pumped to look at the big picture of the world with the rollout of CBDCs. the roll out of RFID chips and digital IDs and all this stuff and to say double fuck you we're going to do it differently we're going to build

parallel systems we're going to connect to our farmers you don't have to become a farmer but you better know where your food comes from for sure and just understanding those little things that connect us that decentralized power and connect us on a local level is very empowering it's not about fear porn and it's not about you know any of the things the click bait you see online it's about like this is these are the facts of where we're headed and this is what we do about it together as a community this is how we grow this is how we learn this is how we make sure that our awareness is expanding not focusing and getting tunnel vision on certain aspects of life and and i'm fucking stoked dude i'm stoked to be able

to drop that early january again kingsboo dot com shoot me an email if you're interested in the community um 150 bucks a month have you picked a name i've honestly the closest thing i've come to is using an acronym. And I haven't selected that yet. I'll run them by you after this, but alchemy was a dope acronym that came up because a lot of it is, it's about alchemy, right? There's just a lot to unpack there, dude.

Honestly, I was thinking about this too. Like they're even just talking body, mind, and connection and the mission, vision, and values on freedom and sovereignty, what does that actually look like in an ever-changing world? All those things. it's a lot of ground to cover. It's kind of what we fell into with fit for service. But at least we knew, like, you're doing this to become fit for service.

For sure. Right? And I think in many ways, it's akin to that. It's not different. Like, how do you serve yourself in the best way possible? How do you serve others in the best way possible? But through these core tenants, you know, that I really do have a great degree of wealth and knowledge in, you know, where are my black belts?

That's what I want to start to teach on these things. And the things that I'm still learning, you know, I'll admit I'm still learning on this. I'll admit I'm still learning as a parent. I don't have all the answers there, but these are the people that have really helped me, you know, along the way. And it's going to be dope, dude. Who, you know, you framed it best way. Who am I creating?

If I got people that stick with me for five years or ten years, who are they at the end of that, right? And then those are the people that I want to hang with. Those are the people that I want to lead tomorrow's generation, right? Especially in the face of what we see, brother. We need more people that are switched on and fully awakened. incapable. Yeah.

And from what it's worth, like when I think of you as like a archetype and therefore what the community would center around is like physically

fucking dangerous but a father who is like the first to cry. Like if something is beautiful like

I can see you holding a bird and then killing an intruder. And that's a unique dichotomy. And then at the same time, it's like you're, like, you've survived madness, like capital M madness. And you've been able to not just survive it, but then anchor like a homestead, like land that you care for,

like the ultimate pragmatism. And so if I think of like a, spirit wheel. It's like physically dangerous, radically open heart, mentally resilient to a point that most people don't even understand how close you've been and how far you've gone and come back. I'm one of the few because I've lost my fucking mind too. And then at the bottom of that wheel, it's like fatherhood, husband, steward of the land. And so, Yeah, like that's a dope fucking medicine wheel. And I look forward to seeing what you come up with as the name.

Yeah, I'm stoked too. And it's a great medicine wheel. It's for women, as just as much as it is for men. You know, I've loved, I love coaching dudes, but, you know, being a fit for service, that was one of the sweet pieces of it was that we had so many women come through. We had so many people of varying ages, teaching physically fit. I'd have young couples that want to get pregnant all the way up to, you know, post-menopausal women that went through it already and then perimenopausal women that are about to go through

it and everything in between. And it's just been a great, it's been a great experience. And I feel like this is the unfolding of what comes next is just as exciting to me as as I look back on the last six years we had with each other, brother. Same. Awesome. Beautiful brother. Thank you, God.

I love you, buddy. Thank you, brother. I love you.