Kyle Kingsbury Podcast - #441 The Blueprint For 2026: Astrological Insights w/ Julie Dean Richards

Episode Date: January 18, 2026

In this podcast episode, Kyle welcomes back Julie Dean Richards, known as the 'crunchy legal lady,' for an in-depth discussion on what 2026 has in store both astrologically and legally. Julie brings expertise from her work with major organizations like Children's Health Defense and ICAN, alongside her deep knowledge of astrology. The discussion covers a forecast based on astrological cycles, particularly focusing on the transition into 2026 and how it sets the stage for the following years up to 2030. Key astrological events discussed include Neptune entering Aries, Uranus moving into Gemini, Saturn transitioning into Aries, and Jupiter's shift from Cancer to Leo. They also delve into the historical context of these planetary positions, exploring themes of freedom, technological advancement, personal responsibility, centralization vs. decentralization of power, and significant legal precedents. The podcast emphasizes the importance of personal alignment, intuitive discernment, and staying grounded amid rapid changes. Julie Dean Richards is an attorney and astrologer who helps people understand their future around money, success, and life direction. She combines astrology, numerology, zodiacal releasing, and location astrology to reveal patterns, timing, and purpose. Julie also leads Feminine Alchemyst School of the Deep Feminine, where she guides women through self-discovery, shadow work, and embodied spiritual growth. From Kyle: The Community is coming! Click here to learn more   Connect with Julie here: Instagram: @astrologicalattorney Website   Our Sponsors: Let’s level up your nicotine routine with Lucy. Go to Lucy.co/KKP and use promo code (KKP) to get 20% off your first order. Lucy offers FREE SHIPPING and has a 30-day refund policy if you change your mind. Go to tonum.com/KKP, use the code KKP, and get 10% off your first order of Nouro.   Connect with Kyle: I'm back on Instagram, come say hey @kylekingsbu Twitter: @kingsbu Our Farm Initiative: @gardenersofeden.earth Odysee: odysee.com/@KyleKingsburypod Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@Kyle-Kingsbury Kyle's Website: www.kingsbu.com - Gardeners of Eden site If you enjoyed this podcast, please subscribe & leave a 5-star review with your thoughts!

Welcome to today's podcast. We have the return of one of my favorite guests, Julie Dean Richards. She is known as the crunchy legal lady with her law degree and what she's done working for companies like Children's Health Defense with Bobby Kennedy and ICANN, working with Aaron Siri, who was just on the podcast and Del Big Tree's team. So lots of cool stuff there. And also she is a phenomenal astrologer. I heard her on Czech's podcast Spirit Jim first. They did an incredible January episode last year in 2025 that really spelled out what 2025 looked like. And so I wanted to take her through 2026 and beyond 2030, knowing there are quite a few agendas pointing to 2030 from the Paris Climate Accord to the UN to a lot of stuff going on in the World Economic Forum.

It's just some interesting things going around those dates. So I wanted to see what does the forecast look like. And that honestly is going to have to wait because we, did the bulk of this podcast just on 2026 and she was so thorough and so awesome and so resonant that I just geeked out the whole time and she's oh I'm sorry we didn't get to it I'm like no no no this was perfect this was perfect and gives us a plenty of good reasons to have her back on but I was I was just stoked for this podcast I think there's a ton of useful information here on how to go about it you know how to how to be in right relation with what

2026 is offering and without the cosmos is lining up for us and it's really cool we go back to 2025 and talk about some of the differences and they're just bang on so I'm super excited to release this one I wanted to release it around new year's but you know what January the month of January in my opinion is reflection and you know coding in what we want to create this year and we just finished full temple reset I think it was our sixth or seventh small group awesome awesome time I feel super good super fit, super fasted. And my first meal last night, which was incredible. It was lamb from the land.

We did a homemade scratch chili. And my wife's chocolate moose and homemade cookies. Oh, baby. So I'm looking to build back a little bit right now. And anyhow, the sky's the limit. 2026 is going to be awesome. So thank you so much for Julie. Please check out the show notes.

If you want to do a personal reading from her or get in any of her coursework, I highly recommend it. She's as legit as they come. and share this with friends. All right, y'all. Julie, welcome back to the podcast. This is awesome. Thank you so much.

I'm so excited to be here again. Again. What we've had, was the first one online, the second one face-to-face, or the first two both face-to-face? Just the second one was face-to-face. The first one was online, yeah. Okay, cool.

Well, I feel like I know you now since we've been in this house before, and I got to meet Moth and your awesome family. So cool. You guys are doing it. doing last podcast we talked a lot about your travels you know you're an inspiration to me because you guys i was always saying to myself i need to get you know uh an f 250 or like a dog's 3500 commons with a twin turbo diesel engine and i can pull the fifth wheel that i want and here you guys are to tow on a trailer behind a Toyota sienna and you've been to like 36 states and i was like

dude there's no reason i can't toast something with a tundra maybe not a giant fifth wheel but i can put something back there and get my ass on the road and go see go see my family and go do fun stuff so thank you for inspiring me there um i also you know mentioned the last podcast that you and paul check had done a fantastic end of the year episode for uh 2025 you know as paul likes to have the year i do a solo cast usually around the same time talk about the things that mattered to me the most that year but i loved your podcast for a couple reasons because one you guys took a deep dive into some of the astrological turning points that we'd come across in 2025. And also, you worked with the numerology of 2025 to find out, you know, back into the major

archauna of the taro. And again, this gets a little into the weeds. But if you follow, trust me, there's a lot of medicine in here for us archetypically that the 2025 year was the year of the hermit. And that that is going to change in 2026 for obvious reasons. And numerologically, that will bring us to a different card in the major. or Arcana. So I would love to look at what 2026 has in store for us astrologically. And then, you know, as I had framed it at the end of the last podcast, something I've talked about at length on this podcast is that we are, you know, in cycles of time and cycles within cycles, right? You have Sri Yuk Deswar with the Great Year, which is roughly just under 26,000 years.

We have our zodiac calendar, which moves us through different pieces where we're entering in the age of Aquarius, which is not a new age thing. It is a new age thing. But it's a new age thing. It's also like just an astrological fact. We're moving there. Beyond that, we have shorter cycles of time. And one of the major short cycles of time that I think we ought to be paying attention to, it was written about in the book The Fourth Turning, where we have four seasons, a spring, a summer, a fall, a winter, each lasting about 20 years, and each full turning

being about 80 years. So we've been in the crisis period since about 2008. That'll last until the year 2028, give or two. take two years. In my humble opinion, and the opinion of many others, this is why there's a full court press or an agenda for the year 2030. And we have this to just Google agenda 2030, maybe not Google it, maybe go to somewhere a little bit better than that. But you can pull up agenda 2030. You can pull up agenda 2050. And a lot of these things are just written in plain English for us. You go to Klaus Schwab. You read Klaus Schwab from the World Economic Forum and, you know,

read COVID-19 and the Great Reset, read what they have in store for. us there. A lot of these are tied to things that sound good on paper, you know, ecologically to help the planet, things of that nature, but they are rolled out in a way that can be completely used for control and power. So I've been paying attention to this stuff and really have, you know, deep concerns around the Paris Climate Accord and what the UN wants to accomplish by the year 2030. A lot of these goals have been so far-fetched that they just couldn't, They just couldn't get done. You know, I think California was one of the first states to realize we can't go all electric as fast as we want.

We don't have enough power. If we had, if everyone in California had an electric car at the time that they had hoped their goal would meet it, they wouldn't be able to drive electric cars. You'd have very few people being able to power their cars to even get to working back. And so, you know, while I believe in changing technology, it's just not there yet. And green technology isn't that green. We have to be honest about that. It's just not that green. Teslas are not a green technology.

Yes, they're not using gas. And I have solar panels, right? I had a Prius before. But we're using a lot of rare earth minerals. And that's a whole side story in and of itself, how those minerals are acquired. And the cost of that that takes. So all that to say, I'm open to different possibilities for the future. But there is stuff to track.

And I feel like we're in a time now, you know, and just to frame this again, in the crisis period, what we have? 2008 housing bubble burst. We had, you know, the big one with COVID, right, in the lockdowns. And that was written 10 years before by the Rockefeller's Operation Lockstep in 2010. You can find that on the internet. How is it 10 years beforehand written verbatim what happens? We'll have to tackle things like misinformation and malinformation. The media will have to join with the government to make sure that only the correct information is spread and there's no vaccine hesitancy.

Crazy shit. So all that aside, I'm really concerned and really paying attention to what these next four years look like. Most importantly, what's in front of us right now. What's important now is 2026. And then we'll take a look into the larger picture extending out to 2030. So that's my long-winded breakdown of where we were at the last podcast. that just dawned on me. I was like, we have to do this. You're the person to do this with me. So let's dive into 2026. You've done a ton of research on this. And also, just to just to reiterate,

you know, you hold kind of two different black belts, right? You've got a black belt in the legal system. You worked with Bobby Kennedy's team. I just had Aaron Ceri sitting here yesterday. Really cool, super pumped. And you've worked with Del Bigtree's team. You've done a lot in the legal space. And then on the other side of that, you have this deep wellspring of knowledge when it comes to a astrology. And so we're going to focus more on the astrology. I think you're going to weave in a little bit of the law, which is super cool as well. And I'm stoked. Let's talk all things 2026. Okay. I'm super excited. Thank you for that preface. And I'm so glad you got to see my old boss. I hope Aaron's doing well. He's the best. And yes, I have weaved in a little bit of the legal sphere. I wanted to look

at the social landscape, the political landscape, and kind of see what can we see? What can we see from these cycles? Like you said up, Kyle, how is this going to, history doesn't repeat itself, but it rhymes, how are things going to come back? What does the energy look like? So I actually think 2026 is, I want to go through it a little more heavily. And the reason I want to do that is, I would call 2026 kind of a hinge year. So last year I called 2025 a year of shifts. And there were. So there were a lot of these big outer planets that moved into new signs, but they were still

shifting. They were still bouncing back and forth. We talked a little bit about that last time. But to set this up for people who don't know anything about astrology, when we look at the planets, there are planets that are closer to the sun. right and closer to us and those appear to be moving faster around the zodiac and so because they move so fast they are important to us but they don't have the big pivotal or generational shifts that planets that move slower that are farther from us have and so when a planet that is slower moves into a new sign

in the zodiac it has big implications for us that's when we see these big shifts that's when we're we see these, you know, cultural phenomena play out. And we also like to look at how the planets are playing together. So if this was a play, we would want to look at like, who is affecting who, you know, who's behind the scenes, who's chatting with who, you know, what does that mean for us? And so to put this into context, last year, we had a lot of these outer planets that don't usually move very quickly move into new signs. However, when a planet moves into a new sign, it kind of dances back and forth between the new sign, the old sign, because the energy is still shifting, right? We're still learning. We're still growing into that. This year, all those planets that

we're shifting back and forth are going to be locked into place. So they're going to lock down. The energy is going to shift for real. There's no dancing back and forth anymore. And we're going to be locked up. and we're going forward. And so our whole trajectory is hinging on this. The other important piece about this is that all of those planets that are shifting this year and locking into place will all be there until 2030. Most of them will be there until 2032, 233. There's only two planets, which are kind of like in the middle. They're not outer planets and they're not what I would call personal planets. They're these middle planets and they will move. So we'll talk about them. They'll move in like 2028. This is Jupiter and Saturn. And we'll talk about why that's important later. But for the vast majority, what we have that coming into

26 is what we're going to have for a long time. So that's why I want to spend a lot of time here because this is setting up everything that's going to happen in 2030. Okay, does that make sense? You ready? Oh yeah. Love the framework. Let's go. I'm stoked. Okay. This is exciting. So Kyle and I talked about moving into a year one. So last year was a year nine. This year in 2026 is going to be a year one. Last year we talked about the hermit. This year we're talking about the magician. He's number one in the major arcana. The one, as you can imagine, is all about starting new things, right? We have a breath of fresh air. We can see this reflected in the astrology, like I said, with all these planets locking into place. we're getting kind of this new paradigm, a new shift. We're bursting out. But something else that we talked about is when you first come out, like think about a duck trying to get out of an egg, there's a lot of resistance there.

And there's resistance on purpose, right? Birth is not easy for a reason. And so even though the one is a breath of fresh air, even though the one is like, let's start, let's sew some seeds, let's burst out of the womb. kind of energy, there's still going to be resistance. So we've, in 2025, we've kind of shifted all these systems. Things were kind of falling down. We're seeing that. And now the question is, okay, how are we going to make a new paradigm? How are we going to shift and move forward? So the first thing I want to talk about with this year is we're going to talk about Neptune into Aries. And the way

that I've laid this out is we'll talk about each of these planets what they mean why that's important the energy of them but I also want to give you a little bit of cyclical history with that planet and what happened the last time that that planet was in this sign and you'll see as I build this picture you'll start to understand and weave together these pieces and see how this is building up into something how all these planets even though they're different they're kind of saying the same thing. They're building up a lot of stuff. And with that, I've gone back, actually, and I've, the nerd that I am, I've gone back to, like, the most important Supreme Court cases that happened during this time, the most important world events. And so we'll see some of these echoes

coming through and how the energy. And now, and again, the energy is not going to be exactly the same, right? Things are not going to be exactly the same as past, but that's the energy that we have. So Neptune is going into Ares and will lock into place in January 26 of 2026. So it's one of the biggest things that's first up on the docket in January. And it's been bouncing back and forth. Now, Neptune has a lot to do with our ideals, the way that we think about things, the way that, you know, it has a lot to do with our spirituality, our belief systems. But Neptune also is a dual player in that Neptune is also about illusion. What's the illusion that we're playing with right now?

What is it that we can't see? Now, the sign of Aries is a very fiery sign. Aries is all about like the body, the physical, like let's go, let's get started. It's a cardinal sign, which means it likes to begin things. It has that same kind of one energy we were talking. about. And so this watery Neptune that's like, let me think about fantasy and ideals and all these things is meeting with this fiery aries that's like, no, what's practical right here and right now? What's going on with our physical bodies? What's going on? And so when those two meet together,

sometimes there's a little bit of a collision course. And oftentimes, you know, the water and the fire, you get steam. And steam is much more dangerous than fire or water by itself many times. And right you can get a bad steam burn and we'll see though that this steam is kind of propelling us this year and so the this Neptune and aries is a lot of these ideals about freedom about identity about what is real and what is not real and we'll see that because Saturn's going to come in so we and we haven't seen this so the last time that we had Neptune and aries was during the civil war so it entered into Aries in 1861. So right before, right as things are like heating up. And the Neptune and Aries period, lots of time, that had a lot to do with the civil war last time and also civil rights. Because we had

the Amman's Patient Proclamation. We also had the 14th Amendment, the 13th Amendment coming through. and we had the first Civil Rights Act. And there was a lot of upheaval on both ends because of this. So there was a lot of struggles with like our identity as a nation. There was, you know, as a civil war was breaking out, we can also see there's these ideas, these ideals are clashing. And both people think they're right. And that's something about fire.

A fire sign is like, fire always thinks it's right. right. It loves to be right. And it loves, it's not shy about like sharing its opinions. And so we're bound to see this year a lot of those, just like we saw this last year, think about all the ideological clashes that we had, although we had a lot of bounce back and forth. Now we're going full throttle into a period where we have these big, like where we're not going to go back and forth so much anymore. We're going to lock in a little bit more to, okay, our fiery ideals. You know, this is right, this is wrong. You know, what's our discernment? What can I see? And everyone will be under the illusion, as we always are, that we have, we've got it right. We know what's right. We have it right. And you can

see like a lot of this coming through. So let's talk about last time some of the big events that happened in North America when we had Neptune in Ares last time, right? So we have, of course, the war began from 1861 to 1865 and just as Aries like or Neptune deeply roots into Aries. And then we we also have a lot of, because of that, we have to think about economics a little bit too, right? So we have, there's an economic stream to this. The war costs hundreds of thousands. thousands of dollars of lives. It reshaped our society. We have the abolition of slavery and we have some reconstruction efforts. And of course, like I said, 13th Amendment, 14th Amendment, emancipation proclamation, right? But I want to talk about some of the Supreme Court cases that

we had because many of these are going to shape what's going to happen now. So the first one I talk about is there's kind of a duality to this when we're talking about what happened before. So we have some things that were good. So we have have some things that allow us to have more freedom and that allow us to, you know, protect other people. And we have some other things that kind of stopped some of the efforts to reintegrate, you know, those. who were slaves back into society. And the first thing I want to talk about, though, is some war powers, because we're going to see this play out again when I talk about Uranus and Gemini. So one of the most important cases were called the prize cases that came up during this time.

And what happened with this was that Lincoln had ordered a naval blockade during the Civil War. And he had done it without congressional approval. So any people, who knows, if you know about the Constitution, right, we've got these three branches. They're supposed to have checks and balances to each other. One of the checks and balances is that even though the executive branch is seen as they are in charge, you know, they're the commander-in-chief of the army, all that jazz, their check is supposed to be that Congress, they have to get approval from Congress before declaring war and using those war powers. However, Lincoln, move this naval blockade to stop the Confederacy, and he did it without congressional approval.

And during the prize cases, there are a lot of questions around, could he do that? Was that legal for him to do? And we can think about this. I want you to think about 2001, right? The two towers, I want you to think about what's going on right now in the war, even Vietnam War. Think about some of these things. And this kind of sets up this precedent that you know, the Supreme Court says, yeah, he can do this. He's allowed to, without congressional approval, he can block this, create this naval blockade. He needs to be able to do this. So this really starts to consolidate and strengthen the war powers, especially of the executive branch or the presidency during this time, which these are the cases that are still relied on today for something, things that happen in Vietnam, things that happen in 2001, those declarations of war,

we actually have not had like a specific declaration of war by Congress since World War II. So thinking about that, like that's how strong the war powers are now for the executive branch. They can kind of do mostly what they want. So this strengthened. So we had some war power strengthened. So we're having our central government strengthened a little bit during this time. Some other stuff that's going down during this time, there's a case called Texas v. White, and along with this strengthening of like the central powers.

And basically during this time, right, when the states seceded, right, especially Texas, Texas was like, we're our own, you know, they've been like this for a long time. We're the long star state. We are our own country. We, you know, and so there was this case about, well, were you, can Texas actually sue the United States because if they're not a state, considered a state, they can't sue the United States. So this case kind of came down to, is it legal to secede from the union? And like, will we count that? at that secession and like what can happen with a state. And so basically during this case, this Texas v. White, we basically say that the union is indestructible. So the U.S. is cannot,

like you can't get out of the U.S. You can't secede from the U.S. It's not legal to secede. And Texas was always a state, even though it seceded because there's no such thing as secession. in the United States. So that's setting up a lot of, you know, we've talked, especially during COVID time, there were some talks about, like, creating a legal secession. According to this case, I don't know that it's possible to have a, I don't know if the Supreme Court would consider it possible to have a legal secession. But I want you to see how the power is gathering in a central place, right? There's some centrality to this. You can't, you're not your own state anymore. When we first were created as a country, we were seen as like our own individual little

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and we had our own currency, we had our own way of doing things. It was like you are your own little country. this time period changes a lot of that. Our ideals become, no, that's not practical. So fire is a masculine sign. And like we talked about last time that Kyle and I talked, masculinity is really focused on practicability. So things being practical. And we're getting to the point where, no, we need this central power because it's not practical to have all of these little countries be little countries. They have to be states. We have to be united. We need to centralize the power. And fire is very focused on kind of that centralization and being looked at because you can see it.

There's a bonfire. Everybody goes around the bonfire. Everyone can see the bonfire. And so this is common with fire signs, particularly even though Aries does kind of have this every man for himself. vibe to it, and we'll talk about that in a minute, but there is kind of like, where's the torch, where's the light that we can look to? And we're starting to see that through these cases, right? And then we start to see this with money, which is important to look at for 2026, because it's during this time we have what are called the legal tender cases. These happen in 1871. And basically, these are the cases that give Congress the ability to regulate currency. So before, like I said, everybody has their own little currency. You can regulate it as a state. And now what is happening? No, no, no, you can't do that.

Congress is going to be the one to regulate currency. And so we're going to change from having these different currencies. We're going to have money. This is what gave us paper money. So these are the cases that gave us paper money. This is what's happening the last time Neptune is in Aaron. And So now what are we talking about in 2026? We're talking about currency a lot again, right? We're talking about cryptocurrency, but we're also talking about CBDs. We're talking about having, of course, we see this shift. And we're seeing this shift of in some ways centralizing, the big centralizing we're dealing with now has a lot to do with currency and having only a digital currency. And so it looks like once again, we may be seeing shifts or pushes towards that. Now, can we push back from that?

Yes, we can definitely push back. And it doesn't mean that for sure we're going to go, while Neptune is in Ares, we are for sure going to go to having all these CBDs. We're going to only have electronic currency. But that sure is going to be an important issue that we're probably going to have to deal with again. And we'll probably have to take it to the Supreme Court again. So that's something to think about as far as like the themes that we're seeing with war, the themes we're seeing with centralization, and the themes that we're seeing with our money situation.

So then we have civil rights. So let's talk about civil rights. And I promise, hopefully, are you following me, Kyle? 100%. Yes. I got things to chime in on, but this is perfect. I haven't forgotten them. I'll throw them in.

I'll throw them in. We're ready. Keep going. Okay. Yeah. And feel free to interrupt me because. This is great. I'm following everything.

Okay, perfect. All right. So let's talk about now the civil rights. So I'm trying to sew this together. We're trying to show some of our, you know, what's happening government-wise, what's happening socially and with civil rights and what's happening economically. So now we get to the slaughter house cases, right? So this is really interesting because as much as during this time, we are having substantial. I would say an uptick or adding to our personal liberties, our civil liberties, we're also having some of those civil liberties taken away. So the slaughterhouse cases is one of the things that did this. And most people probably don't even know that this clause exists. But in the 14th Amendment, it talks about the privileges and immunities of being a citizen of the United States, that all citizens are granted with certain privileges and immunities. And what was happening was in Louisiana, there were a lot of slaughterhouses, actually thousands of these tiny little slaughterhouses.

And all these slaughterhouses were dumping all of their, you know, the guts and all the stuff into the river. And there was a lot of cholera outbreaks and yellow fever outbreaks happening in Louisiana. And so Louisiana said, listen, we got to stop all these outbreaks. And in order to do that, we're going to make all of these little thousands of slaughterhouses. They all have to go to one central location. And they have to clean out, you know, all the guts and do all the slaughtering in one central location. So there's only one place where there is waste.

And part of this was that they gave a monopoly to that business, that it was a business. It wasn't like government run, but they gave a monopoly to a business. and that business became like this huge thing. Well, all of these thousands of little slaughterhouses, I mean, if you, especially in the 1870s, 1860s, think about if you're a tiny little slaughterhouse and you're in Baton Rouge and you have to go all the way down to the opposite side of Louisiana, even to New Orleans, right, to do this. Like, there's no way. And so they, all of these slaughterhouses said, heck no, we're not going to do this.

we are going to sue you because it's a privilege under the 14th amendment. It's our privilege to be able to run our business the way that we want to run it and to be able to have that, right? So what happened in this case, believe it or not, was that the Supreme Court said, no, no, no, you don't have any privileges or immunities under the 14th Amendment. And you all have to, for these safety reasons, right? Safety reasons. We have to. We have. heard this many times. For these safety reasons, all of you have to go to this one slaughterhouse. It doesn't matter that they have a monopoly. We're going to ignore that. And so they completely gutted the privileges and immunities part of the 14th Amendment, which is a huge deal because since then,

we really haven't had any cases that have brought back our privileges and immunities under the 14th Amendment. We've had to rely on what you probably have heard of, which is like due process, right? We have to rely on the due process clauses in the 14th Amendment to try to give us rights. And those have been strengthened, but they weren't necessarily as strong at the time. And if we had the privileges and immunities clause, we probably would have a lot more strength as individuals under the law. And so this gutting is very important for setting up, again, government centralized power so that they can tell us to do other things. You know, maybe the best way, trying to balance these like safety concerns and also balance

people's privileges as a citizen or their life and their liberty, right? We're trying to balance those two things. There probably was a better way of balancing. But this goes back to, you know, this is the period where we're starting to build up monopolies and that becomes very important later when Teddy Roosevelt takes over in the 1890s. So thinking about that, thinking about monopolies, certain businesses, taking over, being in bed with the government, we got to think about those pieces as well. Some other things I'll talk about is this was a really terrible time for women's rights. There was a lot of, in 1873, women were

denied the right to practice law. And then in 1875, they were denied the right to vote multiple times under the Supreme Court. So there's some issues there. And then there was a civil rights case in 1871 called Blayew. I think that's how you pronounce it. But basically, this interpreted the civil rights act so narrowly that there was a lot of racial strife during. this time. And this case, unfortunately, there had been, and I'm not sure if it was Klansmen per se, but there had been a massacre of 100 black men, women, and children. And they had said, hey, under the 14th Amendment, you have to protect us. And basically, the Supreme Court said, no, we only, we, this only applies to states. This doesn't apply to individuals. So you cannot

sue us and they partially part of the reason they did this was that the people were never charged with any of these murders and so they were trying to go to the Supreme court and the Supreme Court said well we only deal with the federal rights and this wasn't federal this is like a state issue so as you can see like there's a lot of stuff chugging along here right there's a lot of vast expansion of federal power there's kind of we're trying to reconstruct We're getting some good stuff in. We're kind of dealing with like citizenship. Who's a citizen?

Who gets to vote? All of this probably sounds very familiar, right? Where we are. We're talking about, right, the birth of modern federal economic power. And basically, to me, a lot of what this says about Neptune and Aries, as I've kind have gone back is like the energy of this in some ways is like every man for himself and what i mean by that is we're kind of at a point and i think we'll continue to see that you cannot rely on the government to protect you and like yes we have made great strides right and of course like so many things that we

have been able to do like getting some religious exemptions back on the table getting rid of food dyes and in our food, you know, trying to stop all of this advertising from pharmaceutical companies. Great stuff. And we'll continue to get some great stuff because during this time, we got some great stuff. Like 14th Amendment, probably the most important amendment in all of the amendments, like super important. 13th, super important. Civil Rights Act, really important. All of these things are great legislature. But we also see that even with all this great stuff going on, you're not going to get protected. It's still the Wild Wild West, and we have a lot of ideals going on. So we have this clash of ideals about freedom and this, our own personal power and the focus on like the, you know,

we are individuals, who is an individual, everyone is an individual, right? Blacks are individuals, whites are individuals, minorities are individuals. Everyone's a person. But we're still grappling and we're still fighting with some of those old ideals as well. We're still fighting with this big power. We're still having this big power struggle. And power struggles against not only government but monopolies during this time. And so we will see a lot of that. So I guess my prediction, if you want to call it prediction, my feeling about Neptune

and Aries at this point is that. and what will come out of it is we're going to have a lot of good stuff. We're going to have a lot of good stuff happen. We're going to have a lot of progress. We're going to bring through a lot of enlightenment. We'll see this theme over and over again. But with a lot of that good stuff, we're going to get heavy pushback. There will be heavy pushback.

There will be grabs for centralization. And lots of times they're going to be not as conspicuous. as you would think because Neptune is about illusion. Everyone is going to be thinking that they know what's right, that they're on the right path, that everything is going the way you see it. Another big part of this will actually be, which I didn't talk about here, I focused more on the political piece, but spirituality. During this time, there's huge spirituality shifts. There's new religions. there's um spiritualism becomes a big deal during the the 1870s through the 1890s um we get a lot of esotericism kind of being rebirthed and so I think what what we will also see is your ideals become

reality really quick because aries is very focused on the physical world and it's very focused on the self and so in the same way you have to take care of you every man man for themselves. You have to take care of you and focus on you. But all these ideals that you have, the spiritual will become the physical very quickly. And everything you bring into the spiritual sphere will become physical. And so that's a tool that we have. And like I said, I don't expect all of these things that are happening back then to happen again exactly the same way. Right. we have an opportunity to move the ball forward in ways that are unprecedented, especially if we are focused on the right kinds of ideals and bringing to life those ideals and taking care of

ourselves first. Okay. Questions. I love that. No, I just want to, I just want to chime in here because as you talked about the civil war, it reminded me, you know, you can map in any great civilization, right so they did i think 12 turnings uh through rome's history we are in our fourth turning right fourth 80 year cycle um the last one so again we've had we've had the the housing crash and covid were our major two in this crisis period but it's still going right it's not done with until 20 28 up to 2030 rewind the last the last crisis period or the last winter season um we had the great depression and we had the introduction of the Federal Reserve. Right?

We had a lot of shit go down, World War I, rewind that further, and that was the Civil War. So that was actually happening right at the same time. And so as I wondering in my head, I'm like, I wonder if these kind of line up in 80-year chunks. But anyways, it just so happened that that did happen two cycles ago. And, you know, thinking to a lot of the things that we have today in terms of like centralization and things like that.

Like that's a big, it's a big ticket item. Central bank digital currency, you know, cryptocurrency, there's no problem with that, but central bank digital currency, there's a problem because it's programmable, right? And if we saw this push for the green pass

or the vaccine passport, and, you know, we're going to still see that push through different ways. Digital ID is one piece of it. RFID chips is another piece of it. And many people will say no to the RFID chip, but once the whole system's in place,

and you can't, you know, it's illegal to leave your cell phone behind because that's your, that's your passport. It's not going to take long for that to be invited into our bodies. And so there are big fights that lie ahead that are super important for, you know, humanity as a whole so we don't wind up in an open air prison system. Catherine Austin Fitz, who worked for both Bush administration, she's a brilliant woman, understands finance and how, you know, the deep state works pretty well. she did an awesome documentary called Planet Lockdown,

which really portrays this in a way that's consumable. A lot of people have a problem with David Ike because the lizard people come in and all this other shit, but much of what Ike has said is on point in terms of the New World Order or the one world government, right? And all systems point back to this total centralization of power, technocratic powers being employed because technology is finally elevated to a point where they can do that.

And, you know, vaccine passport is the digital ID. Digital ID is the RFID chip. CVDCs is programmable money. So how do you socially engineer? It's China. It's the same thing, but it's now international, right? It's a globalized commerce. It's an open border society like Soros likes.

And, you know, these things are done on purpose, right? The invasion of the UK, the invasion of Europe via refugees that's totally shifted the way those countries operate is being invited here in the United States, right? And so you have like this battle of, oh, ice needs to clear out, you know, the, the people. We can't let them vote. We're busting them in and all these things. And I think in large part, you know, this is all to say problem reaction solution. What is the solution?

Palantir. Here we go. Now we can facially recognize anyone in the planet at any point in time to know who they are. Are they a good actor or they're bad actor? Right. And from there, most people say, all right, that solves the problem. Let's do Palantir. We've got no issues with it.

FYI, in case you're just listening at home, there's four times more cameras already in the U.S. and there isn't all of China. So for people that think that'll never happen in the U.S., it absolutely can happen, and it's being rolled out in the U.S. as we speak. Canada, you know, we saw what happened when people peacefully protested with the truckers.

That's the first world country, and they had their money taken. If you donated, they went and, got your money. That money was never redistributed back to those people. It was confiscated. That's so against the law by any, by any stretch of the imagination is against human rights. It's insane. But if they can do that with our money right now, of course they're going to program central bank digital currency. So where like if I mess up and post something online, now I can't leave my little five mile radius of my smart city. My electronic car just powers off or it returns

and takes me back home or it takes me to police headquarters. Like all this stuff is a very real dystopian reality that lies right around the corner for us if we don't pay attention. I don't think we're going to get there, but we have to know what's at stake. And that's why, you know, the conversations like these are important. And history doesn't repeat itself, but it rhymes, is very important. And we see this not only in the astrological cycles, but along with the fourth turning, at various points through here as well, as you got into the human rights piece,

that was very interesting to me because we see a, you know, kind of a misidentification with what culture, you know, the I am that if we have a spiritual understanding is all things, the totality of all, it's unity consciousness, it's non-dual, non-dual reality at its center point, you know, God is everything that is all. That's how it's omnipresent, omnipotent, and everlasting. If you don't have that understanding, it's easy to see things dualistically. And it's easy to misidentify yourself as, oh, I am my gender. I am some gradient of between black and white. It's not black and white. I am the people I want to have sex with. I am a drag queen. I'm how I dress, right? I'm a man, but I like to wear women's clothes. So that's

who I am. You know, it'd be as silly as somebody identifying as a salsa dancer. You know, who are you? I'm a salsa dancer. You know, this is what I do. But a lot of people do that with their job, too, right? And so this, this identity piece is, ever present we see you know as things get more and more polarized it's becoming a bigger issue and so we will continue to see that right and so i love that you bring this up because it's like absolutely we're going to continue to see the identity piece come up we're going to continue to see how do we judge what's correct jamey will was on this podcast and and he was like look do we close our borders down you know do we or do we we love thy neighbor as thyself right like how does that

work when you're bringing people in that don't have the same ideals necessarily, right? We see this now in New York City. We see this in states all across that there's a lot bubbling up to the surface here. And it's very interesting. And so I just wanted to lay that out here. Like, this shit is absolutely a red hot topic of discussion when it comes to central bank digital currency, digital ID, when it comes to, you know, Palantir and a one world government, all these things, you know.

And we see this in many ways the way we're governed right now. This New World Order thing, it may appear that it's coming. It may already be the case. And we just have the appearance that we're still operating as our own country. I don't know. I hope not. But I think, you know, knowing the law and knowing how these things work, I think is an ever-present, important thing for us. You know, it could be more important to understand these things than right now.

Yeah. And I want to comment on that identity piece and how we're moving. Right now, Neptune has kind of been. in this place where it's very comfortable. It's been in Pisces. And Pisces is all about spirituality, seeing things as one. You know, it's the two fish swimming around each other. It's much more artistic, esoteric. And I think that's part of the reason we've had a lot of these cultural shifts. I mean, in many ways it has brought in a lot of spiritual awareness, right? The last 12 years, we have had tons of, you know, spirituality has risen to the surface. We've been able to accept

except that like the spiritual and the science can come together like they don't have to be separated so we've we've done a lot of that on the other side like you talked about we have mixed up our identities in many different ways exactly what you were saying like we identify with our you know what what do i what are the things that i like well if i like those certain things then i must be a certain gender or if i you know whoever i want to have sex with like that's who i am or even our work or profession. And I do think one of the things about Neptune and Aries will be, we're going to get, especially in the beginning, a big reality check about what is legit and what is not. And I don't want to say, maybe I shouldn't use the word legitimate, but we're going to get a reality check about like what

we're going out of being dreamy to being completely woken up and being to this space of like, okay, we're out of the frying pan and into the fire, you know, we're not in this water anymore. We're in this really fiery place now. And so really quickly, we're going to learn what's hot and what's not hot and what is, we're going to have more discernment around that. And so it'll be interesting to see how many people hold on to those ideals. Like I said, there will be kind of, as we can see in these cases and the back and forth, there's going to be people who hold even tighter. and now are warriors, right? Because Ares is the warrior,

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expansion with those ideals. It brought the transcontinental railroad, right? That's the 1960s, the late 1960s. We have the expansion of our nation. We get Alaska from Russia. So like we annex that in. We have the industrial and economic acceleration, right? So we have the gilded age. We have this, you know, the iron people are starting to work. We have a lot of social upheaval, you know, migration, there's tons of immigration. So everything you're talking about is coming in and it's going to continue to expand, right? Technology will continue to expand. All of these ideals will turn into physical realities, right? So like everything that you're talking about, if we have those ideals, they will become physical realities because that's what's happened in the past, right? We have this

expansion of our nation because that was an ideal that we had. And now, and then it became real and we got Alaska, right? The Transcontinental Railroad, we needed to work. Something I also want to bring up, sorry, I have a lot of stuff I want to bring up, apparently, about this. But I want to bring up the health aspect a little bit because that's also important. And with a lot of this, because Saturn is going to come in. So let's talk about Saturn for just a second. Saturn is a faster moving planet.

Like I said, it's one of the few planets that will transition out of Aries, out of its spot, before 2030. It moves, it takes about three years for Saturn to go through a sign. So it's going to leave Aries in like 2029. So just before, right, all these things in 2030. But Saturn is going to be hanging out with Neptune. they're going to be what's called conjunct for a while. And Saturn is like the opposite of Neptune. Saturn is what is the reality check?

You know, it's also about karma, like things coming back to us carmically. It's the law of the harvest, what you reap shall you show. That's very much Saturn. Saturn is all about like, you know, we talk about a Saturn return, which happens every 29 years and in our lives. And it's a reality check. It's a judgment check on your life. right? And so Neptune has been followed around by Saturn who's giving us all a reality check at this time. Well,

the problem, not the problem, something I would just be so careful about is lots of times when Saturn and Neptune get together, they bring a lot of disease. We end up having diseases. Why? Because we're having a reality check of what our ideals and our fantasies are doing to our physical body, especially in Aries. We will get definitely the physical side of things will happen. And lots of times it's water diseases. Lots of times it has to do with poison water or issues with our water. But that's a sneaky thing.

I just wanted to mention because no one's talking about it. Well, let me just jump in on that real quick because something I've mentioned in the past is how guys like Gates have said numerous times with like a almost a pedophile look on his face you know they're not paying attention now they'll surely listen the next time this happens right tons of quotes like that and his little mr rogers you know at the end there and they brought up disease x right disease x is going to have these properties disease x will happen within the next three years disease x is going to is going to hurt children more than it hurts the elderly so like if it's not planned and you're not you're not you're not you're not you not in Ostradamus. How do you know what the next disease is going to do and who it's going to affect? Right. I mean, just wrap your head around that for a second. I pay attention to stuff like that. You know, the, the, I've had experts on this podcast who say there was no virus. I've had experts on this podcast and say, sure, there's a virus. I've had experts on this podcast that said, yes, manmade, we're still, you know, doing gain of functioning research all over the place and the next big

disease will be an outbreak of something that escapes a lab all over the place. But Dr. Brian Ardice, who very importantly talked about the benefits of nicotine when it comes to long COVID, all sorts of symptoms, even just acute COVID. And much more than that, he wrote a great book I'll link to in the show notes. He alluded to the fact that that's not something that could have been spread via the air. So what they found with hundreds of scientists all over the world was that the properties of COVID were contained in 16 different venom. And those venoms were from a variety of snakes. They were from, I think, two different snails found in the ocean and a hornbill starfish in the ocean.

So do you think like a bat sneezed on a rattlesnake? And the rattlesnake sneezed on a snail and the ocean, you know, just kind of went low tide. And all of a sudden that starfish was there like, no, it's completely manmade. And one of the things he alludes to is that it'd be very easy to spread through water. And then we could spread it to each other. So I highly recommend you check that podcast out we did. He doesn't deep dive that on the podcast. We kind of stay on the straight and narrow so it's more applicable to most people.

But as we're coming in the fire sign, I'm going to be beating around the bush less, I suppose. And, you know, I think it's a worthwhile thing to look into. And again, one thing that I want to iterate here is that any time you hear me, there's no fear porn whatsoever. One of the things that he's great is he, Brian artist has a website called Nature Wins. And he's a spiritual man. And he knows, like, whatever we need, God has set out for us already. It's a part of Pachamama's pharmacopoeia and in pharmacia. And it's right here for us.

All we have to do is understand how that works. And we can access that. And between him, between Dr. Peter McCola, everything we need to clear spike proteins from the body, that's all found in organic ingredients, right? Like natokanease and bromulane. And so very briefly, I just want to say there are very easy things you can get on Amazon right now that will help you clear that along with nicotine patches and other things. But I would not be surprised if whatever's coming next down the pipeline was something that came

through the water. I'm just going to say that right now because it's quite possible that that's how COVID happened. And, you know, call me crazy for that. But let's just say, you know, that if you dive into his understanding and how many other scientists have been able to verify those claims, it's pretty mind-blowing. Well, and there's everything that you can do in some ways. If it comes through water, that can be a helpful thing because there's ways that you can clean your water. There's ways we can clear our water, even the water in our bodies. There's ways that are more physical. There's ways that are more

spiritual. We can do it all. And we can know we actually live right now. Everybody around us lives with disease in their water. So like cholera, it never went away. Everybody's like, is gone because we don't know it's gone. Calora is still found. Like when we take samples of the water around, we still find cholera. But no one's getting cholera these days, right? So just because there may be some kind of disease in the water doesn't mean that you are going to personally die from it or it's going to hurt you or the reason that cholera, a big part of it was simple hygiene stuff. And so like Kyle's saying, coming back to nature, coming back to what's real, those organic compounds, you can take care of yourself if it's really true that something comes through our water in a myriad of ways, right?

So, and the other thing I want to say about this, about Neptune and Saturn coming together, they're actually like the first big astrological event that happens this year. February 20th is when they will conjunct at zero degrees Ares. And it will be like a new start. It's kind of like our new turning of everything locking into place. So they're the first hinge. But something to be wary of is that when Saturn and Neptune come together, it's really easy to have deep fakes. Like that's another thing that comes out of Neptune and Saturn together is it's foggy, right? Neptune's super foggy. And Saturn has to do with what's real. And so our view of what is real gets foggy.

And so being careful about like the deep fakes, being careful about like, again, it's this question of like, what do you believe is true. Everyone's going to believe what they think is true is true. And so the only way to know what is true and what's not true is to have your own line and connection to God and to have your own intuition and to have and to, you know, use, come back to your body's intelligence, like so many times, and I think this is a great one for everything happening in Aries is so many times we use spirituality or anything, like we use podcasts or we use music to escape our bodies. We do that all the time. And that has been part of spirituality

for a long time is this ascension piece. We're trying to leave this body behind. There was a long period of time where we were talking about like the body is evil, you know, it's been like that for a long time in a lot of different kinds of religious sects. But something great that has been happening and has been on the radar, especially since we, this last year, as we've been having this dance with all these planets into Aries, is it's brought people back to their body and coming back into your body. And that, you know, ascension is not only upward, it's inward and that we need to be in the physical. And I know, you know, doctors, Zach Bush talks about this all the time, right? Like being present, really important, like be in your

physical body. Don't try to escape it. But I would say that's another message here is you need to learn how to use the signs of your physical body. Come back to the somatics. Doing somatic release. Like being okay, not being in your head, but like actually being in your physical being will be really important for figuring out what is real and what is not real because like Saturn and Neptune together lots of times can be like fake news. I mean, not that this doesn't happen all the time, but they've been together. Like they have been following each other since 2020. So we've been having like Saturn and Neptune play this game for a long time and they're going to be even closer together and playing this game together, especially this year in 2026. So just make sure that, just make sure that you're

connected to your physical body. Any comments you want to make about that? Kyle. Yeah, I just had Edmund Knight and back on for a second time. That'll release, I think right before this one. But actually, no, I'm not certain because we're going to do this for New Year's. And then he may, he may actually go after it's already December 11th as we're recording this. But one of the big things that I discussed with Edmund the first go-round because Edmund uniquely has a very deep understanding of the Christ, a very deep understanding of the law of one, the raw contact, and a very deep understanding of Rudolph Steiner. And Steiner, as you were talking about late 18th, 1800s, that was Steiner's prime, late 1800s, early 1900s. And he really showed that there was

kind of two forces that we were up against and that, you know, Edmund really points to, like, all these forces work together. Christ works with Lucifer and they work with Aramon. And they're all singing this song to get us back to our wholeness, right? It's about evolution. It's about getting us back to this further understanding of who we are and reaching the godhead. That said, Christ from Steiner's standpoint was the middle path, like the Buddha, right? And Aramon, you know, there's a light side and a dark side to both these other forces. The light side to Aramon is structure.

It is systems. It is mathematics. It's science. And the dark side of that is you are only, it's scientism, right? You are only, you know, a random collision of different atoms that somehow spawned a planet in the perfect Goldilog zone. And then consciousness came after a brain was developed after so many eons. And it's pure luck that we're here. You're only a body.

You're only flesh and blood and you're dead and you return to the earth when you get. And that's it, kaput, right? That's the dark side of Aramon. A darker side of Aramon would be to capture all the souls and make, them believe that thoroughly and lock them into a space here either digitally or physically and otherwise that's away from our creator. Lucifer is on the opposite side of the spectrum. Lucifer is spirituality.

It's ascension. Like you said, in the wrong light, that is a disassociation from the body, a disassociation from the importance of our incarnation here on Earth. It is fuck all rules. All bets are off. Complete freedom. Right. And, you know, it's endless, endless plant medicine journeys.

It's, you know, the becoming a bliss junkie, as Jamie Will would put it, you know, where you're looking for, you know, all your life revolves around the next festival when you can go to MDMA and yoga all day long. The light side of Lucifer is letting us know we are both matter and spirit. And we're always connected to our source, never disconnected, and that we can polish that relationship so that we have a deeper intuition, a deeper knowing and a deeper discernment. And so it's the balancing of these forces.

as Steiner put it in, Edmund put it very well, that I think is super important. And something I really dove into Edmund, and the last one was the importance of intuition. And it cracked me up because, you know, more verification from a different source. I've been reading the Second Coming of Christ from Peromahana Yogananda. It's a beautiful book. And, you know, he comes from the lineage of Sri Uq Deswar. That's also where we get the Ugas from outside of Plato. Sriuk Daswar was from Lahiri Mahasai.

Mahasai was a householder. He had a wife and he had kids. And then Babaji was his mentor. But one of the coolest things in that book, as well as an autobiography of a yogi, is when Shriuk Daswar passes on, he contacts his disciple, Yogananda via the soul. And he says, hey, I'm still here. I told you I wasn't going to leave yet. And he describes the next plane of existence. And this is very much akin to the law of one.

And their understanding of what happens when we die. But one of the things they said was you recognize all beings via intuition, that intuition is its kind of own intelligence and that that is something that we're all working towards now in body to be able to attain so we get closer and closer to our angelic forms. And so I think that's a really rad way of putting it. Like this is our way through 2026 to be in the body, to trust our intuition, to use discernment. And that's very much akin to what is our trajectory via the law of one? What is our trajectory via Sri Uctoswar?

And what are we becoming, right, as spiritual beings that live in a, in the three Yeah, I think that's beautiful. I'm glad that you brought that up because that's going to be a huge thing here is taking the middle path is going to help keep you from getting sucked into a lot of the illusions, right? Being both spiritual and physical, realizing that like they are, they're coming together, using your intuition, that'll be very important. Because something else that's happening during this time, right, during this industrial revolution phase. in the 1800s, especially while Neptune is in Ares the last time, is we kind of set ourselves up for, we have all these, like, great ideas and these great ideals, and we set ourselves up with what we're dealing with right now, which is everyone being so sick and everyone having all of these issues, right? So like during this time, we have this great industrial revolution, and we start using, all these issues start happening, right? We start using like the cotton seed oil and that we get like this waste and then we start putting it into our food and we start putting everybody so close

together in cities and everybody starts getting sick and we introduce, right, during this time, it's a little earlier than now, but this is still, it's earlier than now, but then, you know, vaccination starts to become a bigger thing and we start vaccinating people and we start getting on the train that like our ideals is that we can eradicate disease. in these specific ways. And a lot of these later, right, we fall a little more on the Aramon path, where now we're separating from spirituality and like we get really deep into, you know, starting to figure out, use germ theory more here and all this kind of stuff. And some of that is good because we do start to realize, well, it's later. Really later we realize more stuff

about hygiene. But we leave behind. We see our old selves, our nature-connected selves as, you know, that's, oh, those hicks, right? Like, oh, those hicks who use those natural remedies or who live on a farm. Like now, you know, what's cool is being in the city and having this industrial revolution look at technology and we start building our ego big time. Like this is where our ego builds big time. And now, all the way in 2026, we're like, oh, no. You know, know, all these things that we did have made us really sick, have blindsided us, have pushed us, you know, indoors more than we should be, are making our bodies weaker. So now we can correct, right? We have this, you know, that pioneering energy did lots of good things for us too. And it was

important. And now we have a new pioneering energy and we can pioneer things. And if we stay in more of this middle path. If we refocus and see our trajectory and reconnect to our bodies and listen to them, then we can pioneer a new energy that is not only one-sided, that is more the middle path, that is more focused, and we can come back to our bodies. So I think that's really important to see here with everything that is going on with Saturn and not letting our ideals run away with us. And we'll talk about that with Uranus and Gemini. But I guess we better move to the next planet because we've been. Let's go.

Let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do it. I've always appreciated the way you say Uranus. Yeah. You know, the little boy in me always wants to crack up anytime that planet's named, but I've never heard it named that way other than with you. So I just like it because it kind of takes the wind out of the sails, you know, from some kitty humor.

But that also in it of itself makes it funny to me. Oh, I know. Because it's just another spin, so I like that. All right, let's go. Let's go. You just wanted to hear me say Uranus. Uranus, Kyle. Uranus.

I was waiting for it. Like Beavis and Budhead. No, we say Uranus around here. All right. Okay, let's keep going. Okay, so we're going to talk about Uranus next. Very fascinating. Uranus in April of 26, April 25th, it will shift into Gemini for good.

It's been playing on the edge of Tar. Now, Uranus' job is to break everything up. Like, its job is to make, you know, take the pieces and just break them down. And if you know anything about the taro, sometimes I think about Uranus as the tower card. It's here to, you've got to knock it all out to the foundation. Uranus also has a lot to do with, like, being out of the box, authenticity. In medical astrology, Uranus is over our electrical. systems in our body. It has a lot to do with that. So think about it as like kind of this electric

charged energy, right? And it can cause a lot of havoc, but there's a purpose behind that havoc. It's trying to help us to rebuild in a better way. So it breaks things up so that we can rebuild. And it's also about surprises. Your Honest loves to give us surprises. It's never what you think. It's out of the box. And because of that, it allows us to tap into authenticity. Again, spiritual bingo word, authenticity, but it allows us to tap into that side of ourselves. And if we have, the more authentic we are, the more Uranus is going to play to our benefit. So that's one of the things I'll say up front. So Uranus was also, if we look back at the last four times, because it moves a little faster than Neptune. Neptune takes like, I don't know, 112 years to

get around the zodiac or something. Oh, well, sorry, not, not like 80 years or whatever. Pluto takes like 112 years. Uranus is less. And so the last time that it was in Gemini was 1941 to 1949. So we've got World War II era. Then before that, it was 1958 to 1858 or sorry, 1858 to 1866. So again, Civil War, Civil War vibes. Before that, the Revolutionary War, 1775 to 1782. And then we have the, I just did four times before because I think it's really interesting to watch. And then before that, it's 1690 to 1697, which is the Age of Enlightenment. It's also like the Salem Witch Trials.

There's a lot of stuff going on there. So Uranus happens to come when there's lots of wars. There's lots of wars when Uranus is in Gemini. And I don't know that it's necessarily necessary that there has to be a war when Uranus goes into Gemini. I would say, like, we're having the same overlap that we did have, right? So there's an overlap in those 1860s era, right? there's an overlap between Uranus being in Gemini and Neptune being in an air being in aries they're

both in those same placements now together and so I hate being like scary scary or whatever but it does lend to the possibility that like yeah we could see more of a civil war what does that civil war look like it might look different than other civil wars and might be more technological or it could be very physical, but I would say we, I don't know that from my perception, and I could be completely wrong, for my perception, I don't know if I see this civil war, if we were to have one, being like, okay, you're out with your guns, with everybody, and we're attacking each other, like the way that we did in the 1860s. I think it will be a little more hidden than that, and it will be a little more advanced in the ways that we do it. And again, a civil war doesn't always have to be physical.

It can also be technological. So just opening people's minds. Not that, and again, we might not have a civil war. It could be, but I just have to check that overlap, right? We just have to mention that because of what's happening. But also what's happening during all these times, right? So we're talking about the World War II era is the last time that Uranus was in Gemini. Think about all of the technologies that we developed to spy on other nations during that time. Think about all the ways that communication was enhanced during that time. We came up with codes. We ended up using Navajo, learning and using Navajo so that the Germans couldn't decode what we were saying. We tapped into lots of different languages. We used kind of, that's when we really started developing these

kind of cool spy techniques, all of those kinds of things. Gemini is an air sign and it has everything to do with communication. So it's about talking. It's about asking questions. Gemini always has two sides. And so it's the twins, right? So we're looking at both sides of the story. We're playing devil's advocate. And when we talk about Gemini, Gemini is also the trickster. So again, I just caution people careful, like with that Neptune and Ares and Gemini being Uranus and Gemini, Uranus is always giving us surprises. And so be cautious because information is not going to be what it seems. And we need to just check that and be careful with those pieces. is something else that happens, though, the two sides of the coin, right?

There's also a lot of, again, with all of these, all of these, with all four of these last rounds of Uranus and Gemini, there is a lot of difficulty on the human level, right? There's a lot of denigration. So like we go all the way back to 1690, right? We're in the age of enlightenment. this is also when over 100,000 women are killed in Germany alone for being called witch, right? We have a lot of that going on. We have a lot of pervasiveness of, you know, putting, making Christianity one thing,

centralizing it during that time. But also we have this fight back of the agent of enlightenment, which is like very much Aramon, right? There's nothing there, you know, you are nothing. but like a bunch of this random accident and these cells and like it means nothing. But the age of enlightenment was also very important. It's very important for us to have kind of the birth of like John Locke and a lot of his principles. And his principles are what America is built on if people don't know that. Like most of what we think about freedom comes from John Locke.

And so the age of enlightenment is very important for that. But on the flip side, even though we're so quote, quote, enlightened, we're still killing women and men for their ideals, right? So there's the light and the dark side of that. Think about revolutionary war, right? We always think about this as, it's a great thing. We're setting up freedom. We're bursting through. Very Uranus. Uranus is, hey, we're going to fight against the big power. We're bringing it back to the people. We're shaking things up. Right. We're able to beat this world power. No one thought we could do it really great, right? But how many, there were lots of people who also around the world

who are not in America who are suffering during that time because of a lot of these other wars, these other colonizations, these other issues that are happening. And even in the U.S., right, it's a really rocky time. It's like all the signers of the Declaration of Independence basically die, you know? Everybody gets, there are people who are getting killed for their ideals. So There's two sides to each of these coins. There's more good, well, I shouldn't say there's more good or bad, but there's a big push towards freedom in all of these things, right? The Age of Enlightenment, big push towards having freedom.

I just watched a movie called A Royal Affair, which is all about this time period. And it's a true story, and it's a Danish story about the Danish king and a doctor who was his doctor. He was for the Age of Enlightenment. and he was able to influence the king heavily in those ways to like help people. Because remember during this time, we still have serfs. Like we still have classes of people who like they are the slaves and they're being owned by people. I mean, not that we didn't have slavery after that, but it's much more of a class system.

Right. We still have feudalism going on. We still have all these things. And the Danish government like totally feudalist, the agent. enlightenment and really helped to break that up so that people weren't peasants anymore. And they had some human dignity and some human rights. And so we are breaking through with freedom. And then of course, I don't have to remind you, of course, revolutionary war, freedom. It's about freedom. What freedom do we want? We want to be independent. We want our independence back.

What's happening during the civil war? Freedom. We want freedom. I mean, a lot of it's economic as wealth, but there's this, like, this freedom piece, right? People are people and we want to fight back against that. We want to be, you know, a nation. Even if you think about, like, the secession of the states, for them, that was their own, hey, we want to break things up so we can be, you know, our version of freedom. Like, we can have our rights. So, and then World War II, Holocaust, Right? Thinking about Holocaust stuff, a lot of like the everything else that's going on in Europe, especially in Russia and nine million people dying, all those kinds of things are happening, lots of human atrocity, but also this, you know, this battle for what does freedom look like, right?

So we're getting tons of those ideals with Uranus and Gemini. There is a lot of this like breaking free, right? splitting apart, and that's what Uranus does great, splitting apart so we can come back together. You know, we've got to say what we think. We've got to explore both sides. We've got the light and the dark both happening at the same time. So those are a lot of the themes, and I would expect those themes to continue, which is why I'm hopeful, that's part of the reason I'm hopeful that a lot of people during this time period will not just roll over and take it, right? Like, we won't, we won't just roll over and let CBDs take over everything or we won't just roll over and let,

you know, everything happen to us. We're going to be fighting for freedom in our own way. And there will probably be some breaking up so that we can come back together. There's going to be surprises, new thoughts, new technology, especially in the very beginning, while Uranus is at the very beginning of Gemini, it will be getting a lot of support from Pluto and Aquarius. And so Aquarius is all about doing things for the good of the whole. It's all about technology. It is very much about the individual. Like it's much more individualistic than like Leo, which is its opposite. It's about like, what do we want as the individuals? The last time Pluto was an Aquarius was also the revolutionary war. So we've got those two coming back together again.

So we have some echoes. And Pluto is all about power and melding things down and transforming things. And so what we have, again, is this support from this hugely powerful transformative planet to Uranus, which is going to be this planet that breaks everything up and asks us what is freedom. And so we're going to be getting huge innovations in technology this year, probably the next three years. I mean, not that technology will just keep going and going, of course, but I would say there's going to be some fundamental, very interesting power plays this year that create this idea of, you know, taking freedom back, working with technology, technological leaps, and perhaps even being able to use technology in a way that the elites don't want us to to fight back, right? taking their own weapons, kind of like the Revolutionary War. Part of the reason we were able to win, right, was that we didn't fight the way that the British fought. The British all came in,

you know, they have their red suits and you can see them really clearly and they all line up. And everybody who are these, you know, the Americans who are these small people are hiding. You know, they're hiding. They're not lined up in the same way. They don't have a special uniform on so they can blend in and they're able to kind of like attack and not quite guerrilla warfare style at all, but in a more surprising way. And so we may have the opportunity to do that as well to create surprises and to use what the elites have set up for us against them and to use some of those things to create freedom. So that's part of the reason I'm hopeful with your honor. honest. You guys know I've tried just about everything when it comes to human optimization,

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And that case happened during the World War II era. I think it's like 1942, I believe it's called Wicked. And it's a very famous case. It's about wheat. And I promise it's very important, even though it's about wheat. But what had happened was there was a farmer who sold some of his wheat. And that he also. though during that time. So for people who might not remember during World War II, we also have

rations. So people are getting rations from the state, right? It's everybody chip in, everybody do your part, everybody come together. And so everybody got rations. Well, this farmer decided to keep some of his wheat and for his family to feed his family. Well, there was an inspector, an agricultural inspector that came on to his property. was inspecting and said, oh my gosh, you're eating some of your wheat. You can't do that. You have to stay on your rations. And so gave him this big fine. He fights back and basically saying, like, you can't tell me that I can't, you know, eat my own wheat on my own property. Well, the outcome of that case is still stunning to people today, I think. But what the Supreme Court said,

and this has never been overturned. In fact, it has been reinforced. in 2008 by a case called Rache. But what the Supreme Court says was, well, you eating your wheat from your own farm affects the stream of commerce. And because you're not going into the stream of commerce and buying or using your rations, you're affecting the stream of commerce. And because you're affecting the stream of commerce, we can tell you that you cannot eat your own wheat on your own land.

And we can tell you what you, like, basically emphasizing government control that, like, yeah, we can tell you you can't grow stuff on your property and eat it and that you have to go out and buy from the market because what you're doing is affecting the stream of commerce. So, which, again, yes, we think about World War II, like, yeah, we got the Nazis. We did the good thing or whatever. but massive amount of power and control consolidation, especially when it comes to things like that, massive amounts of, well, if we follow the logic, and that's like air signs are like this. Like, it's all these thoughts. It's about thinking and what you think. And logic can so easily get

twisted and logic can change, changes so vastly over time. What we think is logical, changes incredibly vastly. But it's like we followed this logical idea. Like, well, it's logical because you not eating from the stream of commerce means that like people don't get paid in the stream of commerce, which means you affect the stream of commerce, which means because we control, Congress controls the stream of commerce and has jurisdiction over that, we can tell you what to do. Right. Like we, we can now tell you not to grow your stuff on your own property. So that is a caution that I have about this is as we fight back, we need to be careful because cases like that are still in effect. And as much as it's every man for himself and we are, you know, no one today would say like,

oh, you can't eat your own vegetables from your own garden. But surprise, surprise, like if it comes up against the central powers will, like if they don't want you to be able to do that, there's already something in place to stop you from being able to do that. And that's what I mean by a two-step. coin is there's lots of pushes for freedom and there's also again this pushback from freedom. So any comments you want to make about that, Kyle? That's infuriating. That's all I got to say. I mean, I think in World War II, to frame it, everything that was said on the news or in a newspaper people believed, right? Like that was just the time. There was a great faith in our country, in the Republic, a great faith in our government.

and I could see, I don't see that going down the same way these days. You know, I just don't. I see, I mean, if some, some twerk tried to come on, first of all, they wouldn't be allowed on my property without, you know. I think to answer your question, I'll frame it this way. I'm sure you, you listen to the high wire with Del Big Tree. Did you hear about the absurdity that just happened in British Columbia, Canada, with all the ostriches where they just 100 plus ostriches in the middle of the night?

Yes. I see that happening in Canada and it's heartbreaking. It could happen in Australia and it would be heartbreaking. I do not see that happening in Texas. It might even happen in California. I do not see that happening in Texas. I don't even see it happening in upstate New York. There's a lot of gun owners up there and, you know,

people stick together in rural communities. And so, you know, as far as some twerk from the government showing up to my property and telling me I can't consume my own food, which we planted, sewed, you know, grew all of our own, took, took everything we could to make that happen, you know, that's like somebody saying, I can't eat the, the meat that I've grown on this farm. I don't think many Texans would put up with that. And many Texans are armed to the teeth. So I think we've got that going for ourselves. But let's continue. We've been going now for an hour and a half and I want to make sure that we get all this juiciness in here.

Of course. Yeah. Yeah. So to wrap But you're honest, right? We're talking about pushes for freedom, ultimately, shaking things up, breaking things down, big technological shifts. And that's a huge theme for this year is we're going to continue to see those things, right? We're going to see the, this, you know, and I think also education reform will be a big thing. As we've already been seeing, we'll see more people break down. And that's a big, a lot of what we're talking about is like David versus Goliath in many ways and decentralization of a lot of things and themes. I think that's kind of our next step. Even though in these past times we have seen pushes for centralization of power, there is a big voice to decentralize.

And I think based on what we have seen so far with Pluto and Aquarius in the past few years, I think people are itching to decentralize in so many ways. in news and in our medicine system, even in political governments. And so maybe that will be our next step. But of course, like I said, Gemini is two-sided. And all of these, all air signs are two-sided. And so there's always going to be a counterbalance, and we're still going to be fighting against a lot of these people who would like to keep us centralized and enjoy the centralization.

And we're also going to be fighting against. against our own convenience, right? Like, I think convenience in so many ways, like we are our own worst enemy in that convenience is like the number one thing that makes these big pitfalls for us because it's easier to do something one way. And so it's very enticing to centralize everything because it's practical and convenient. So we'll still kind of see this. And I want to take this time to see how the shift in general, all these big planets, including Pluto, including Uranus, including Saturn, including Neptune. All four of those big outer planets are all in air and fire signs, right?

So we're shifting from these heavier signs. Earth is heavier. Water is heavier. It's heady. You can feel it. You can see it. Earth and fire are not so much that way, right? They are lighter.

They're quicker. They're faster. There are going to be things that happen really fast. And so that's one way of saying we are speeding up. We're speeding up. And there are these things called the nodes, the north node and the south node. And the north node and the south node, basically they show us our trajectory, where we want to go, where our souls are headed, especially for that year. And they have a lot to do with eclipses that happen. I know a lot of people think that like, you know, on April 8th of 2024, like we had this big solar. eclipse and like that's the only time you're going to see an eclipse and their next one won't be for 50 years. But actually what's happening is we're having eclipses all the time. They're eclipse. They just, most of them happen over the ocean and most of them are only partial eclipses.

They're not full eclipses. However, in astrology, we still focus on those eclipses happening, even if we're not seeing them in the sky. They are affecting our energy. They are affecting what's happening to us. And we see this a lot that they mark times of importance. So, for example, royal families, all of them. Like, if you track the royal family, they're all born during eclipse season. And so what usually happens is you have bookends when it comes to eclipse. Eclipse is. So you will have a lunar eclipse and a solar eclipse. And sometimes eclipse has actually come in threes. And you'll have like lunar, solar, lunar, or solar, lunar, or solar, lunar, And what happens, why that is, right, is because every two weeks, we have either a new moon or a full moon. So, you know, every 28 days we have a full moon, every 28 days we have a new moon. And so when we have eclipses, they always come in these pairs.

And they're usually two weeks apart. And those pairs, those two week time periods are called eclipse portals. That's often what we call them. The portal opens. when the first eclipse happens and it closes when the next eclipse happens. So for this next year, the nodes have been in Pisces and Virgo, which are water and earth. And so we've had this, even though we've had a lot of the shift into fire and air and things kind of speeding up, we've still had grounding because we've still had this water and earth in the nodes,

kind of grounding us, kind of wrapping up some themes around the spiritual versus the physical, you know, purifying things, seeing things as one. And now we're going to shift in 2026. And the nodes are going to start shifting from Pisces and Virgo to Aquarius and to Leo, which are air and fire. And so we're going to have more themes, more of these air and fire themes. And Aquarius, like I said, Aquarius is very much like, I do things my own way. I do things the way I want to do things the way I want to do them. But it does still have this kind of service orientation. Like, even though you're doing things your own way, you feel like that is the way to help the collective. So it does have this kind of, it's the water bearer. So it's there to give water to all the people. And in many ways,

that lots of times with Aquarius, that's giving information to people because it's an air sign. So a lot of that is like, you know, distilling information, telling people what you think, but still doing things the way that you think they should be done. So that's why Aquarius is often linked to, again, this kind of rebellion. A lot of people see Aquarius as like being rebellious because it wants to do things its own way. Leo is the opposite. So Leo is this fire sign that is really concerned about being an open-hearted leader. It's more this energy. And, you know, this energy. And, you know, this fire sign. And it's more this energy. And, of like, think about like the Lion King, like Simba, remember who you are, right? Like, it's, it's very much like, you are the leader and you have to listen to what people think to be a good leader and it's much more like sparkly and performative. And they both have leadership in their own way. One is the individual, which is Aquarius. And the other one is the voice of the people collectively. right like it's more focused on doing what everybody wants it to do and performance as a service and so what we're doing is we're moving away from leo the nodes the south node will be in leo so we're leaving

that behind and we're going to aquarius and uh that's where we're headed towards the individual we're headed towards uh seeing things this new focus and so now we won't have the same kind of grounding. Now in 2026, we will have some like odd. This always happens when we're shifting collectively, when the nodes are shifting. It doesn't, the eclipses don't always align exactly the way that they will. So for example, like we'll have an eclipse in Aquarius, but we're also going to have an eclipse in Virgo later in the year. And so we're still kind of shifting between earth and water and air and fire. But we are headed to, by the end of this year, we will be all air and fire. Everything will be air and fire, which has, again, it does have its good stuff and it has

its hard stuff. When we're moving so fast, sometimes people get left behind, right? When the energy is just picking up and speeding up, right? People can get left behind quite easily. You also have this kind of air and fire are masculine, and earth and water are feminine. I know that surprises people, but it is true. And so air and fire are much more detached. They're much more less caring. Even if you think about an earth sign, because people could think like, well, Earth's a rock. It doesn't care about stuff. But actually, Earth cares quite a bit. It really, really cares. And that's why it's so exacting and so focused and so organized because it really cares. Air and fire are not as caring in that way. They're detached. They do what they have to do because they either want to do it or because they see it

as the way forward. And that's kind of the energy that we're moving into. And that speeds things up because if you can leave people behind, it's a lot easier to speed up and to go at your own pace. And so there is that and there's going to be more of this masculine play. And I wanted to mention this. I can't not mention this because I work a lot with the feminine. But I do think we're seeing an interesting shift because unlike other times, like we talked about with Neptune and Ares where women are denied the right to vote multiple times. Or like with Uranus and the Salem witch trials, right?

a lot of difficulty with women. I think now we've kind of flipped. And we've, the divine feminine has been kind of growing. It's a growing subject. People are more interested in these feminine pieces. Part of that has been Neptune and Pisces, I think before. And now we, we have this ability to kind of figure out how to balance ourselves, right? Because the point is not to be overtly, only feminine or only masculine or to care. And when I say feminine and masculine, I'm sure people listening understand, but like feminine is more inward. Masculine is like, you know, forward facing and structured and focused on structure and going. And the feminine is more focused on like the intuition piece, the feeling piece. So like I would describe, Aramon is more of like the masculine and Lucifer is more

of like the feminine in those pieces. And so now we kind of have, as we're pushing for freedom, we have a chance to now center ourselves if we focus on that. If we are aware of it, we have the chance to not let the pendulum swing too far to one side or swing too far to the other side, but to keep it centered and we have an opportunity to bring water to other people, to be water bearers, especially this year. The next three years we'll have a lot more Aquarius. The next, yeah, a year and a half, two years will be focused on this Aquarius Leo thing. We'll be having these eclipses in Aquarius and Leo.

And so we do have the opportunity now to like bring people water and, many different ways and to try to center them, but we have to keep on our toes because things are moving quite fast. So I just wanted to bring a check to that, right? Like that's the elemental space we're in. We're into reality. We're into pushing forward. We're into information. We're into, you know, focused. We're into performance as a service. We're into shining. And so it is a year to allow yourself to do those things. But we also have to know that whatever we do has consequences, I guess, as I go into the two-sidedness. So I want to talk a little bit about Saturn in Aries.

Again, we've talked about it a little bit, but there's just a couple background pieces I want to give. But are there any comments you want to say about the eclipses or anything before? The only thing that I wanted to contribute there is just that. how it's funny to me how much this resonates with my personal trajectory via 2025 and also 2026. 2025 for me was a lot of hermit time. It was a lot of refining myself, mastering meditation for the first time in my life, and really getting clear on who I want to work with and what I want to teach going forward

in the absence of fit or service. And so everything you've talked about, you know, in terms of sharing and bringing water to people is exactly what I want to do in the launch of my new community. So I think that's rad and shameless self-plug if you've made it this far. But super cool. And then also, you know, with the speeding up, something that I've recognized, there's two things that I think are incredibly important. Number one, read the book Essentialism by Greg McCown. I think there's no, but it's very short. It's like six hours on Honorable. I've read it a few times. There's no more important book and it has a totally great spiritual context too kind of interwoven into it but um no greater

book for creating work life balance than essentialism and i still draw off in that book daily you know and how i want to figure out and work with with work and my kids and life in general and how i take care of myself uh two as life speeds up because we've gone through pockets of this before right I'm sure, you know, the older you get, the faster life goes. If the cosmos itself is about to speed thing us up, there's no, there's nothing more important than having the ability to push pause and to create spaciousness from within. Right. And that's, that's different for everybody, but that's a big cornerstone of what I want to teach

in the community. And, you know, if you don't join the community, that's fine. Figure out how to hit your center point. You know, how do I clear energy via the nervous system? How do I reset myself? And then how do I create space from within via meditation? That's just the gist of it. If you can figure out those things, you're going to handle the speeding up of life just fine.

If you can't and you get taken along for the ride, it's going to be holy shit. And you're going to look back on that time as like, what happened? It moves so quickly. Right. And hopefully that's a good thing. And it's not a bad thing of how fast things moved in the wrong direction. But if you have the tool set to shake things off, to clear energy and to be able to sit in stillness and quiet your mind, that's how you create spaciousness. That's how you create timelessness. And that's how you slow things down. It's the only way to slow things down, in my opinion. Yeah. And I would say this is very powerful for everyone listening. Like all the power is in your hands. Like you can make shifts. There's not time for you anymore. Lacey,

Philip said this recently and she does this thing called to be magnetic. She's cool. But she was talking about this. There's not time for you to like fool around anymore. And that's kind of what we're coming up against is like the faster you shift, the faster everything shifts. And you're going to get stripped down. Like the universe will continue to strip you down one way or another. If you don't keep up, you're going to get stripped down until you decide to be your true self, be authentic, go forward with the information that you have. So if you feel like you keep hitting your head against a wall, then there's probably a layer of yourself you have not shed yet. A layer of yourself you haven't found the true you inside of you. There's something that

you need to let go of that you just have to let go of. And once you let go of that, things will shift and they'll move incredibly quickly for you because everything just is speeding up, speeding up by spring, you know, we're going to be in a whole new world for sure. So I wanted to mention that. Anything else you wanted to say, Kyle, before I move on? No, that's perfect. Let's keep the ball rolling. This is great. Cool. So let's talk a little bit about Saturn and then we'll talk a little bit about Jupiter and I'm just going to speed through this for everybody as much as I can speed. So we talked a little bit about Saturn and Aries. Saturn's going to be chasing Neptune there as well. Saturn is about realities. I do just want to bring up some of the background of the last time Saturn was in Aries. Now it has a 29 year cycle. So it's going to be stuff that you remember. It'll be part of our living memory. Right. So the last time that it was in Aries, there was the Clinton impeachment, right? Because we're talking 1996 to 1999. We also had the. civil trial of O.J. Simpson

during that time. So we're coming up with, coming back up on some of these feelings of Saturn and Aries is like you have to take responsibility for what happened. And the reason I bring up the O.J. Simpson case is because in the original case,

in the criminal trial, he was termed as not guilty, right? That was the verdict. He was not guilty. Well, when Saturn moves into Aries and taking responsibility in the civil trial, he he was held accountable for the killing of Nicole Brown and Ron Goldman. And obviously, it is not my job to say whether or not he really did kill them.

But there was a heavy weight of evidence against him. He for sure killed him. Come on. Come on. I mean, that's the lawyer in me, right? I was in middle school when this happened. And I remember seeing the chase. And I loved O.J.

I mean, O.J was like, he. was not just a great football player. He was somebody who was, it was now an announcer. He was a TV personality. He's in comedies with Leslie Nielsen, like naked gun. He was awesome. Everyone loved him. And so as a young man, I was rooting for him. You know, and thought and thought at the time, like, there's no way he would have done that. You know, and then as I got very quickly, you know, kept paying attention. I was like, dude, there's no fucking way he didn't do it. He for sure did. And for sure had psycho tendencies. And to see him get away with murder, was it was crazy. It was like, oh, money can buy you out of any problem was kind of the takeaway

I had. But that's to your point on you reap what you sow, that was amazing that in the civil case, he was held accountable. So that's my opinion on all that, you know, but I just want to say, you're listening to my podcast. I like to make my opinions here. I can't make them here on the podcast. I can't make them anywhere. That's right. Well, and, you know, that's the lawyer in me. I have to always leave some wiggle room for doubt, but, you know, he was held accountable for that. And I can't remember what the verdict was, but it was millions of dollars to the families of Ron Goldman and Nicole Brown. And then again, Clinton, right, I really think, you know, he almost gets impeached in all of those trials. But, you know, we found out, right?

There was an affair. We found out that the affair happened. I feel awful for Monica Lewinsky because she, I mean, it ruined her whole young life. But like there was, you know, for our actions, there was a reaction. So we get the same thing. And sometimes as we see, so here are a couple other times, Saturn and Ares in the past, 1967 to 1969, MLK and RFK get assassinated during that time. Huge civil rights movement stuff, right?

But whether or not your actions are good or bad, there will be consequences for those actions. And that doesn't mean those consequences are necessarily just. When I read that, when I was doing this research, I was like, oh, no. Right. I was just like, oh, Bobby, please have a million security guards around you. Like, we don't want this to happen again. But yeah, that's what happened in the 60s, during the 60s. time. But again, lots of reality checks with the civil rights movement during that time,

lots of reality checks with the government, grappling the citizens. Even then, I think, we're grappling with, you know, what happened to JFK, right? This is years after, but we're grappling with, you know, some of those, what actually happened there. And so we're seeing where we're at and then what we've done with our government and things like that. So, and then, and then, before that it's 1937 to 1939 and that is basically the rise of Germany right the rise of Germany the rise of Nazism the rise of fascism but we get some we kind of have to get real during that time about you know people are really angry and so we do need to you know there is this shift of like personal responsibility it's on you but also that warrior

energy definitely comes through. You reap what you sow. So I don't, I hate to, like, I'm sure lots of good things happen during these times too. I hate to only know only the bad times, the bad things that happen. But, you know, we need to be able to realize that what are you willing to fight for, right? What are you willing to fight for? What are you willing to die for? What do you really need? And I think we've shifted, of course, we've shifted everything that in the way that we do this. All of these times before are very different. Like an assassination and an impeachment are completely different things. And so in the same way, what will happen this time will look completely different. And it will be based on our personal consciousness, right? The consciousness of the collective

and what will happen, but just realizing that during the next, you know, three, four years, we need to be, have the reality check that you reap what you sow. And that's getting faster, right? That the reality check will come back to you faster. And the karma will come back to you faster. The reap what you sow piece is something that actually, and the speeding up process actually gives me hope for the fact that we might see, some justice take place with, you know, the people we have in our own government. Hillary Clinton, for one, and many others, you know, are people that I think, you know,

in large part of vast majority of Americans wanted to see justice with, and it just never happened. Anthony Fauci, same deal, right? We've heard about these Epstein files, and then we get to, oh, no, that's just a distraction. Those don't exist. And it's, and it's kind of mind-blowing to see, like, what is, what is actually true, what isn't true. And for the things that do happen, like, where's the accountability? You know, I want to see some accountability.

And I don't necessarily need to see people's heads on the chopping block. But it would be nice to have some degree of accountability and, you know, people being taken a task and held accountable for what they've done. Yeah, definitely. And I hope that we will see that. And we'll have to hold ourselves accountable also. So I'm just going to wrap up with a few, a couple more things for this year. We have, Jupiter is in cancer right now.

And it will be until about June of next year and where we'll shift into Leo. Jupiter is about generosity. It's about belief systems. It's about expansion. Our conscious expansion. And this past year in cancer, Jupiter loves to be in cancer. We're expanding our tribe. We've been expanding, and we will until June, continue to expand that one spiritual grounding that we still have with the one planet left in a water sign.

So cancer is this water sign. We still have to expand the way that we nurture, our intuition, all those cancerian themes, and our generosity. And then as Jupiter moves into Leo, for the next, half so it will be kind of like half and half of the year. So Jupiter will move into Leo and we will have kind of this expansion of self-expression. Like I was talking about Leo being very shiny and leadership driven. So we will be more focused on expanding our leadership, more focused on expanding our presence and our, the way that we shine and our performance. And we're going to be having a lot of those pieces coming together. And then I did want to talk about we will have, I mean, we always have retrogrades, but we will have kind of an interesting Venus retrograde in the fall. And that

will be in October. And when a planet goes retrograde, it just means that it seems like it's going backwards. And when it looks like it's going backwards, it has a lot of reverse themes. Sometimes it's like reversing a tarot card. Like if you pull a tarot card and it's reversed, it's almost like that. And so what will be happening is we'll have a lot of themes about money and power in the fall. And that will be because Venus will be moving backwards through Scorpio. Scorpio has a lot of things about the hidden, the occult, what's deep down there. It's ruled by Mars, so it has a lot of cutting ability and it can really come back to bite you. But it also has themes of transformation and power.

And so I would suspect that if we're going to see some of this, we will continue to see, of course, like digital currency push and all that. But we're going to see something money-wise in the fall. There's going to be some kind of big, drastic shift, and it's going to have to do with power. Who has power? What has power? And we're going to be reviewing our relationship with power. It's also on a personal level for people, not just like a global scale. Venus retrogrades have a lot to do with relationships. They have a, you know, think about Venus. Venus is like the goddess of love. So like relationships, money, worth, worthiness, your assets, seeing yourself as an asset. And so we will be seeing like your own personal struggles as well, your personal power struggles, your personal struggles with relationship and with love and our relationships.

So we also might see some revealing because that can happen. And so we might see some stuff with money and revealing and relationships, maybe even like government relationships being revealed as Venus moves backwards from. Scorpio into Libra. There'll be some rebalancing. We could also see some shifts, some power shifts into how are we peacemaking? It could be related to global war stuff as well, not like starting a war or anything, but like how do we balance that?

What is the currency going to? What's our relationship with other countries? because we do have, in a lot of these past planets we've been talking about, we do have a lot of country relationship stuff and like the annexation of Alaska. And that has been something that's been talked about, not Alaska, but right. Like Trump has been talking about, people have been talking about, you know, Greenland and Canada. And like, there's been a lot of talk about land and our relationships and alliances. So we might see something like that come up again in the fall as well.

And again, on a personal level, it will be the power struggle as well as the relational struggle, the balance within yourself. So I would just say, like, make wise choices with your money and be prepared for things in the fall that you cannot control money-wise. That's going to come up. But like, don't worry. it's not going to be forever, but I always tell people like, hold on to those things, be prepared for money stuff whenever there's a Venus retrograde. It's kind of, it kind of acts like a recession.

And some people make it big during recessions and some people lose a lot. And so just hold on tight and make wise choices with your money during the fall. So I would say that's my, I, we finally got a little bit through the year. Hopefully, I mean, I can give you my, my conclusionary wrap-up summary of the year. Yes, please. Yes, please. Okay. Let's wrap it up. And I think what we can do also is we might need to just take a whole other podcast

to talk about 2030. I'm so down. I'm so down. Yeah. I love the detail. I love the depth. This has been awesome. And it was perfect podcast for 2026.

Awesome. Okay. All right. So let's wrap this up. Let's wrap up some themes. Freedom, right? Number one theme we're talking about is we're talking about ideals and pushing forward. There's a lot of information that will come up, focusing on rebuilding ourselves and pushing for a lot of our own thoughts of what freedom is, our own logic of what freedom is, structures being kind of

continuing to crumble down, some decentralization, but also push back from the other side of trying to centralize things. In your own personal life, right, that's going to look at, look like what are your personal choices? Like, what is freedom to you? And how do you, you know, what ideals do you need to let go of? What thoughts do you need to let go of to become more authentic, to become more free? We will continue to see everything shifting, speeding up. Technology will continue to speed up. The, our, you know, our innovations, will continue to speed it up. Again, watchful, everyone being watchful about information, things not being what they seem, our own illusions, we've got to tap back into our bodies.

If you do that, if you tap into the spiritual, whatever you think will come into reality much quicker than you think that it will. So whether that be good or whether that be bad, we're going to reap some of the things that we have sown over the years. And we're going to be speeding forward with more of our own, where we feel guided and with the information that we are given. So take care of your health, take care of your body, focus on being in your body. Don't let yourself get so in your head. That's the trick with fire and air. They always get you in your head. You're always too much in your head. So focus, refocusing on your body. It's cues, it's intuition, not to get, you know, caught up in a lot of these illusions, making sure that

you are not being obstinate for your personal logic because you want to be obstinate and you want to be right, but allowing, I would say, like, God and the universe to come in and give you new ideas and help you innovate. Great year for communication, though. Great year for technology. great year for shining, for pushing forward, right? We will push forward lots of new stuff coming down the pipeline. And I would say lots of surprises. So, and then just be cautious in the fall, money-wise, values-wise. But as long as you stick to your values, focus on getting in your body and be mindful

about the information that you consume, then this year could be a bit. powerhouse for manifestation for people and bringing forward dreams that you have had for a long time. So there you go. That's my wrap up for the year. Oh, that was so awesome. Thank you so much, Julie. If people want a personal reading from you, where do they get a hold of you and how can they work with you? Yeah, just go to astrological attorney.com.

That's where you can find a reading. And you can find me at Astrological Attorney on Instagram. Thank you. It's been so awesome and we'll do it again soon. I really appreciate your time. Sounds good. You too. Thanks, Kyle.