Kyle Kingsbury Podcast - #453 Solocast- weight loss, PEDs, peptides and more!

Episode Date: April 23, 2026

This Solocast I deep dive the ins and outs of burning fat and recovery, peptides like GLPs, testosterone and much more.   I breakdown the launch of my new community The Kingdom Within launching May o...n Skool.    Join my new community here https://www.skool.com/the-kingdom-within-5541/about   Microdose with the very best products & get 15% off everything in the store here https://brainsupreme.co/KKP don't forget to use "KKP" at checkout for the 15% off!  

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Starting point is 00:00:00 All right, today we got a solo cast. We're going to talk a little bit about some of the things that have been on my mind and some of the stuff that I'm creating. And I'm really excited to launch with you all. So if you follow me on Instagram, you've seen some posts around GLP1s, weight loss. You've seen that if it fits your macros posts, things like that. And while these are hot topics and deserve some conversation, there's a lot more to it than just a 60-second reel.
Starting point is 00:00:28 So I wanted a podcast on this to give some just a deeper conversation around what this stuff is, how it works, where the pitfalls are. And if you're going to do it, you know, what to watch out for. You could say from a, you know, categorically, this episode is about aesthetics, weight loss, building muscle. It's about performance-enancing drugs. It is about peptides. And it's about, again, the digital community that I'm concerned. creating shameless self-plug. You're going to hear about that. You're going to hear about my nine-week cohort fast track. And you're going to hear about other ways to enhance the microdosing. We just did a
Starting point is 00:01:09 great podcast with Adam Shell, founder of Brain Supreme. You can get 15% off there using KKP on all products, best microdosing products on the planet. And I'll talk a bit about a little, you know, because we just did a whole podcast on it, just a little teaser on some of the best ways that I use those products. Anyway, when it comes to whether you want to build muscle or burned fat. It's a really good idea to see where you're at. And with that, I mean, a true scan of the body that tells you bone density. Bone density is going to come up again. Fat loss, body weight percentage, water weight, muscle, where the muscle is, all those things. Because if you're starting to make changes, whether that's changes to your diet,
Starting point is 00:01:51 changes to your lifting routine, or anything of that nature, you want to see. And checking your weight on a scale means nothing. You could be, oh, I lost five pounds. But if you're burning three pounds of muscle and two pounds of fat, that's not working. I promise you, it's not working. You might have the weight loss goal that you want, but you're getting weaker in the process, which is not generally going to be good for your health, your metabolic flexibility, any of it. And of course, if you're gaining weight, right, how much of that is fat, how much of that is water weight or bloat, you know, because you're loading on creatine and things of that nature. Those are things you want to see. So you take the guesswork out with the Dexascan. They are incredibly affordable now.
Starting point is 00:02:27 again, I don't have a, I don't have skin in the game. There's no Dexas Scan sponsor. There's no, I'm going to mention a couple of kits at-home test kits that I'm taking right now to check on longevity and Omega 3 content. Now I got no, no affiliation with those guys. Sorry, I can't give you a discount code. They're not paying me to talk about them. No one's paying me to talk about them.
Starting point is 00:02:46 But that said, Dexascan is a fantastic way to see all the stats on your body, especially if you're trying to build muscle or burn fat or both. All right. With that other way, again, this is about aesthetics. Aesthetics in large part are a part of how you feel, how you look, and how you are, right? And you can say all day, I'm fat and I'm happy and all that. And maybe you are. Totally cool. But I'm not happy when I'm fat.
Starting point is 00:03:16 I'm not happy when I'm injured. I'm not happy if my body doesn't move well. Personally, I'm not happy if I'm really stiff. You know, like if I'm super stiff and sore and I've talked about this again before in the podcast, and one of my little wrecking ball kids comes barreling into me, if I'm stiff, you know, my knee-jerk reaction is not the dad that I want to be. It's like, hey, what are you doing? You can't hit me in the back. Whereas if I'm mobile and supple and these guys come blasting into me, I can turn, roll with it, take into the ground and start wrestling and tickling them. And that's how I want to
Starting point is 00:03:46 respond. That's the kind of dad that I want to be. And that's the kind of dad that I am most of the time, thanks to the changes that I've made in large part due to my training. But aesthetics are more than just how you look. People like to shit on that. Oh, your main goal is how you look. There's nothing wrong with that. Obviously, you can take that way too far, right? You can get into fitness competitions and things that are completely unhealthy and unnatural
Starting point is 00:04:11 for the body to take form of, particular with women. You know, you lose track of any type of period, any type of normalization there with where your monthly cycle should be. that's a huge indicator that something's off in the body. For men, if you don't wake up hard, that's an indicator something is wrong in the body and something's off. And those are things we ought to pay attention to. While we're in the reproductive years, these are things to pay attention to.
Starting point is 00:04:39 All right, one of the things that I bring forth, when we specifically in the fat loss is gLP ones, gLP 2, 3, these are all things that you're going to hear a lot about. These are in the category of peptides. Now, Eli Lilly has developed some of these. A lot of the big players in Big Pharma have developed some of these. and I'm going to talk about the do's and don'ts, what happens with it and whatnot. I'm going to leave the scientific discussion in large part to people like Dr. Andrew Heurman, who has many podcasts on the subject, so I don't need to touch it.
Starting point is 00:05:07 Dr. Jack Cruz does as well. So it's worth mentioning kind of their take, and Huberman said, you know, this is potentially a trillion-dollar industry, right, because of how well these things work for weight loss. And that doesn't make it good or bad. It just is, right? So it's a part of our conversation. Dr. Jack Cruz said 10 years ago, you got kicked out of conferences for this because they were going to roll this out, sunlight does a lot for us in the same way that these GLPs can do in
Starting point is 00:05:37 terms of conquering Grellin. Grellin gets you growling, as Rob Wolf once said, and where to eat, ghrelin's the hormone that goes up when our body wants to eat really bad. And so if you think of like you have a bad night of sleep, you're under a lot of stress. The fight or flight hormones are kicked on. you're going to increase ghrelin as a means of taking in more food. Now you're hungry, right? You've got to eat.
Starting point is 00:05:59 And so there's a time and a place for that, just as there's a time and a place for cortisol, and a lot of the hormones we sometimes often would call negative. But if you're able to quell that, now all of a sudden you don't even want to eat, right? So think about how fat burners have worked in the past. Typically, you've had stimulants. FenFen was one that deteriorated a valve in the heart that got pulled from the market
Starting point is 00:06:19 after the fact. A lot of people got messed up. There are others that are stimulants. There are thermogenics, you know, when you get into bodybuilding, clenbuterol, things like that. There are thyroid medications that turn your metabolism up, even at the cost of muscle. So a lot of these things have, you know, they're all double-edged swords. Let's put it that way. But conquering hunger is a big deal.
Starting point is 00:06:41 And that's one of the first things I noticed when I did a longer form nutritional ketogenic diet. Right when I retired in 2014, I was listening to Tim Ferriss, I heard Dr. Peter Atia on there talking about it. I heard Dr. Dominic de Augustino talking about it. I've had both those guys in my podcast as well. I've been on Peter Attia's podcast, The Drive, and spoke a lot about the performance intending drugs on there, but I want to bring this to my podcast. All that said, I knew that I needed to heal my brain after fighting,
Starting point is 00:07:06 and I thought nutritional ketosis could be a way that would help, and it for sure did. The side effect that I had no idea was coming was I didn't care about food. Once my body was mainlining ketones from fat stores, there was never like this dire need to eat. You know, people notice this if they do extended fast, somewhere between day, end of day two and day four, you're just kind of like, oh, cool, I don't really need food.
Starting point is 00:07:31 My brain works differently. Everything's switched on. Now, I'm not as gung-ho as many people think on fasting. I think it's fantastic. I like to do it once a year. For a physiological standpoint, I think it's good to do once a year. We're also doing dry fasts for the next three or four years. I don't recommend that for everybody from,
Starting point is 00:07:48 a health standpoint. And part of the reason I have these health tests is because I want to see, is there anything negative happening when I do these? Again, table that for the end. So fasting is important because it creates metabolic flexibility. Nutritional ketosis does the same thing. It basically means that we can burn fat or carbohydrates for fuel. It gives our pancreas a break. It resets insulin sensitivity. And it does a number of things that actually improve overall health from a holistic standpoint. Tons of books have been written on this subject from grain, brain to any of the keto books. Why Are You Eat Again by Rob Wolf is a fantastic one. And while going into a fully ketogenic diet is not right for everyone, it is right for some
Starting point is 00:08:30 people. And the way you figure that out is through metabolic typing. Again, this goes back to Paul Checks book, How to Eat, Move and Be Healthy. Are you a Polar Type? Polar types have, you know, ancestry closer to the poles. They do better with big game, fatty meat, cold water fatty fish, less carbohydrates seasonally at least during the winter. And then you've got mixed types, which most people are. And then you've got equatorial types, which can eat largely vegetable diet. Even those people still eat a little bit of meat, you know, from an ancestral standpoint. But you can take the questionnaires and how to eat, move and be healthy.
Starting point is 00:09:04 And that will help you to decide right now, what does my body need? And this can shift over time based on training, based on sleep, based on environmental stressors. And so, you know, continuing to retake those tests every, every three, three to six months, we'll help you fine-tune so you can actually learn what is the best diet for me. If you're more of a polar type, you can get away with doing nutritional ketosis for longer periods of time. That said, there's an end point. There should be an end point. These are all forms of fasting. A vegan diet's a form of fasting. Ketogenic is a form of fasting. Going without, right, it's a dieta for people that are into the plant medicines. So understanding what the
Starting point is 00:09:39 pros and cons are to that can help us when we're determining what is the best way from a, from a holistic health standpoint for me to capture some metabolic flexibility and the ability to burn fat for fuel, the ability to let the carbohydrates that come in, get access, processed, and stored properly. So I'm not just burning the candle at both ends. We're going to say that a lot today. If I have chronically elevated blood sugar, that's a precursor to damn near every form of inflammation and many diseases. So we want to avoid that. And again, this, This is a part of the aesthetics discussion. If you want to burn fat, if you want to build muscle, carbohydrates are necessary for both.
Starting point is 00:10:17 And going without can be necessary for both in helping us achieve those goals. All right, bodybuilders learn this correctly. They have mass cycles and cutting cycles. And so the mass phase is eat far more than you need, get carbohydrates, get your protein through the roof, all those things, lift like crazy, juice up like crazy. And it doesn't matter if you blow up like a puffer fish. all that water weight's going to drop when you change your cycle, and when you go in the cutting phase,
Starting point is 00:10:43 preserve as much muscle as possible because anti-cadabolic as possible while ramping up metabolism and burning off all the fat. This does work, in a sense, performance-intencing drugs aside, from an aesthetics point of view. It is very hard to build muscle and burn fat at the same time if you're really pushing for both, right?
Starting point is 00:11:06 Standard is cut 500 calories or add 500 calories. So let's say I do a Dexas scan and it says my metabolic burn rate resting is 2,500 calories. If I'm trying to lose weight, getting that down to 2,000 calories a day is a fairly good place to start where I'm going to see weight loss at a rate that's happy for me, but not necessarily detrimental. And we'll talk about the fat loss rate here in a second. Adding 500 calories with adequate protein will help me to have a surplus each day so my body's more inclined to be anabolic and build muscle. those old rules of thumb still apply. Again, as we get into what is holistic,
Starting point is 00:11:42 the if it fits your macros diet is absolute bullshit. And for a thousand reasons, you can say, you know, I just did that post on it, but it was like to say I only need the macronutrients and forego what's inside the food, the micronutrients, the life force energy that's inside the food. Again, this is why I have people read How to Eat, How to Eat, Move Me Healthy, and Health and Light by John Ott. If you have those two books, those are cornerstone prerequisites to a lot of things I teach.
Starting point is 00:12:09 Paul wrote that book, so we wouldn't have to keep teaching this shit to people. Like read these things, he also recommended highly the John Ott book, Health and Light, because when we have these as foundational understandings of what health is, now it's really easy to fine-tune and go from there. So most of you listening here will understand why if it fits your macroses is dog shit, even though the person telling you might be shredded. All right, beyond that, what is... What does it mean to be holistic?
Starting point is 00:12:35 Well, in my opinion, it's four doctors living, right? This is again from Paul Check. Dr. Diet is a big one. We're going to talk about today. Dr. Diet's anything I put in my body, right? It's the water I drink, the supplements I take, it's the drugs I take. It's anything I put in my body. Dr. Movements are movement routine.
Starting point is 00:12:52 This is important when we talk about aesthetics because the ways in which we train can affect fat loss or muscle building to a greater degree than some of the other ways in which we train or don't train. Dr. Quiet is your sleeping. meditation program, and that is super important, whether we're talking about fat loss or building muscle. Again, Rob Wolf, Wired to eat, he said, if you're not getting adequate sleep, you're basically cock-blocking your fat loss, right? Grelin is going to go through the roof if you're not getting enough sleep. You're always going to be hungry. Your body's cortisol levels will go up. You're going to, you'll be having hormone levels telling the body to store fat at a rapid rate
Starting point is 00:13:28 and increased appetite to store fat because it's in panic. So sleep is a cornerstone. in any part of holistic health is a cornerstone in your aesthetics as well. And if you have trouble sleeping, meditation can be one of the best things for that. If you can learn to meditate and quiet the mind, that makes learning to fall asleep a hell of a lot easier. I had Dr. Kirk Parsley on the podcast. He's an old buddy. He was a medical doctor in the Navy Seals, was a Navy SEAL and a medical doctor for the Navy SEALs. And one of the things that he talks about when it comes to sleep with a lot of his guys who have trauma and have works
Starting point is 00:14:03 through a lot of shit is when you commit to lay down and you teach some basic box breathing meditation techniques, but when you commit to lay down, you're fucking in bed, right? Whether you're asleep or not, if you're not sleeping or meditating or doing your box breathing. And so that can be a huge one. Go to bed at the same time each night. Wake up the same time each day. Blackout blinds, no lights in the room. Sound machines I like, white noises out, but like ocean sounds, things like that are good.
Starting point is 00:14:30 Ear plugs, totally good. Get it cold. cold and dark. So 66, 67 degrees, 6.7, pretty good, these damn kids, pretty good temperature to have it at, you know, and I feel like there, I mean, there's tons of science on this. If you check out the book Sleep by Nick Little Hale, that's a fantastic how-to guide for sleep. And I've talked about, I mentioned that book many times as well. So sleep, diet, movement, all that makes sense. Happy also makes sense. But we're going to table that because we're really just talking aesthetics here. happy does come into play doctor happy with how you feel about yourself right and so if you you know constantly have a negative mind about how you appear to the world or how you are in the world that will take its toll on you that's not something you can overlook and there needs to be a balance point of loving yourself for who you are while still holding the person you're becoming right hold the dream of who you're becoming and dream it as if it is already so but then work towards that thing right
Starting point is 00:15:29 don't don't imagine yourself losing 20 pounds like you got to fucking and put one foot in front of the other and work towards it. Decisions. Decisions, decisions will make sure that that becomes a reality or not. All right, we talked four doctors living, metabolic flexibility and health. Metabolic typing, super important. Another cheat, for lack of a better term, you know, people talk about biohacking and magic bullets and shit like that, and I really want to avoid that. I feel like, Ben Greenfield once said, I want one foot in the wisdom of ancestral living with one foot in the miracle of modern science. I like that.
Starting point is 00:16:02 I like that idea. I like the idea of having a foundation of holistic understanding of the body, working towards those things, eating all organic. And then if there's something else you want to figure out, all right, now let's go see what's the best tool for that. Continuous glucose monitors are fantastic for that because they take all the guesswork out of what your carbohydrates are doing your body. What's happening with my blood sugar 24-7?
Starting point is 00:16:27 I've worn CGMs for a number of times. I've used companies like Nutrisense, levels is a good one. There's another one out there that's a little bit cheaper that you can just buy without the added help of a registered dietitian. Anyways, play with those. They used to be $1,000 every two weeks for a Dexcom and you needed a prescription. That's no longer the case. So do your research and take the guess.
Starting point is 00:16:50 It takes the guesswork out. You don't have to wear one for the rest of your life. One of the key recommendations is that when you put one on the first two weeks, eat the same. Don't do a diet yet. Eat exactly the way you normally eat. go to your favorite restaurants, have your favorite snacks, your favorite junk food, and see what that is doing in your body. Once you have that recorded and detailed and you're taking notes on shit,
Starting point is 00:17:11 then you can start to say, now I'm going to switch to a fat loss diet, or I'm going to switch my routine and try to build muscle. See what's going on there first. And again, you take the guesswork out of what's causing inflammation, what's causing or retarding your gains, what's retarding your fat loss. All these things are super important. and blood sugar is a cornerstone in figuring that out. All right, peptides in general.
Starting point is 00:17:34 Peptides, I've been a fan of peptides, and I've also kind of not lost hope, but I can also see through the glimmer of the peptide field as like, oh, this is going to do everything. There's a lot of science on some of these, and there's not a lot of science on some of these. So, you know, buyers beware. One thing that recently happened in the industry
Starting point is 00:17:57 is the FDA shut down, all the research labs that you could order from. So, excuse me, peptide sciences, extreme peptides, every major business out there that's been selling peptides for research purpose only is no longer available. They're shut down. That means you have to go through telemedicine companies. Now, the benefit here is your telemedicine company is likely making that at a compound pharmacy
Starting point is 00:18:21 stateside. It's not something coming from China. You don't have to check to see if this is everything that it says it is, if there's no contaminants, it's going to be a clean product. One of the drawbacks is the cost is going to go up, you know, exponentially compared to some of these websites. That's just, that is what it is. Now, when we talk about peptides, you know, there's peptides like BPC 157, which is the same exact amino acid profile as gastric juice in the body. So the body doesn't see it as a foreign substance, right?
Starting point is 00:18:49 When that goes in, you can inject it locally and say your knee, if you just had knee surgery, I've had it in my shoulder for shoulder surgery, or you can go subcutaneous in the stomach for a more, balanced effects throughout the body. The cool study they did was pretty fucked up, and I'm talking about this before, but it's a messed up study. They severed the Achilles of several rats. Group A was the control. They didn't get anything.
Starting point is 00:19:13 Group B got BBC 157. And I think Group B healed four to five times faster just with BPC 157, not with increasing collagen peptides and vitamin C or anything else that you'd want to stack from an injury like that, just from BPC 157 alone. It also stacks very well with TB 500, also known as thymus and beta 4. These are incredibly safe compounds, right? I've taken these. If my son wanted to take these in college, I'd say, absolutely, buddy.
Starting point is 00:19:41 Other compounds have been pulled from the market. You know, there's other ones that were supposed to enhance cardiovascular and created heart problems, right? So if it's new, wait, pump the brakes. There's no reason to jump in on this stuff super quick. on that topic, you know, getting in the GOPs, you know, they're going to eliminate hunger. To me, that's better than a stimulant. To me, that is better than a thermogen that's going to, you know, supposedly raise your core body temperature.
Starting point is 00:20:08 Clem Beterol, I see you guys just sweating, sweating bullets on Clem Buterer. I'm like, that has to be fucking uncomfortable and it cannot be good for you. Resting heart rate goes through the roof. Your heart rate's up when you're working out. Like, I don't want to increase my heart rate all the time. It's one of the reasons I meditate. I want time to pause and still myself and center myself. And I think that's important. Where the GOPs win is they're not a stimulant. They're just simply alleviating you of your appetite in a very profound way.
Starting point is 00:20:36 The main concern, and you'll see this now online, a lot of my conspiracy, you all know, I love conspiracy theories. A lot of my conspiracy theory, brethren, online will say, you know, Big Pharma did it again. Now they've invented something to destroy your bones. I don't think it's that nefarious. I think really what it boils down to, and I'll give you a couple real world examples here to back up what I'm saying. Again, it's new. So let's find out, right?
Starting point is 00:21:01 But, you know, they did a big study that showed bone loss was super prevalent and in the group that they were looking at, which is large people, you know, large people. It was a large group of people that went through this and they saw significant bone loss. Now, here's the thing. If you're not living a holistic life, if you are, you know, yo-yo dieting, if you're, you know, working out rarely and you're not going outside and you're from a computer all day long, whatever the thing is that makes you kind of G-pop normal person. And you go to cut calories. First, let's say, and Paul talks about this too, you know, what do you give a fat person? Well, the fat person's starving. You need to give them the nutrients they need first.
Starting point is 00:21:44 So that brings about their health. then you can start to cut back or work on ways to lose weight. So why do people keep eating? They're not getting the micros they need. They don't get the vitamins and minerals they need. You can't take that shit in the pill, i.e. Central and silver, it doesn't work that way. And then some things we do need to supplement with, i.e. magnesium, because it's just not in the soil anymore. All that said, if I have a person who eats three to four thousand calories a day and it's not good food, right?
Starting point is 00:22:12 They're going to McDonald's. They're doing whatever. And all of a sudden, they lose their appetite. and now they only eat 1,000 calories a day. That person was starving for the right micronutrients on a 4,000 calorie diet. You cut that down to a quarter of what they were eating, and they're really not getting the vitamins and minerals. And we need a certain amount of these just to survive, right?
Starting point is 00:22:32 We need a certain amount of calcium just to balance our blood pH. So bone deterioration actually makes sense if you think about somebody who's not getting the right nutrients into their body. Is there a way to do this where you don't hurt your skin? I'm going to get to that. I also had a friend who remained nameless, who was, you know, 270 plus pounds, six feet plus, loved alcohol, you know, got his shit together, quit alcohol, plant medicines helped him. And he did two four months stints with the GOPs. I don't know if it was the one or the three. But last time I saw him, he had a six pack. And I was like, holy shit, dude, like, what'd you do? And I know he's been training his ass off and it was been eating, right? He's
Starting point is 00:23:13 doing a lot of things. He lost all that weight rapidly. We'll talk about some of the cons that happened with rapid weight loss. But I mean, the six pack was there. It was like, damn, dude, like this shit works. There's no question. And he was vibrant, right? But he also looked a little run down. I could see around his eyes. They talk about the eyes. I asked him if he had done a Dexas scan before and after. And he said, yes, to monitor the bone loss issue. And his bone density actually increased over the course of his two four-month runs. So, and that's because he was weight training every day and eating properly. That tells me it's not a bone loss.
Starting point is 00:23:51 Bone loss is not created from the GLP's. It is a matter of not getting the right nutrients in your body. And I'll live and die on that statement until proven otherwise. He's not the only guy that I've seen increased bone density while running these peptides, specifically for weight loss. He doesn't augment testosterone. So he's all natural otherwise, and his testosterone slowly plummeted. And the reason for this was he was training hard.
Starting point is 00:24:16 He was burning the candle at both ends and in the middle. And he was cutting calories significantly. Even though the food he was eating was nutrient dense and good for him, he was doing too much. And his testosterone reflected that. He was not waking up with erections anymore, right? From the female standpoint, you would lose your cycle entirely or have erratic cycles where they're frequently coming but not for a full length and full duration. All sorts of she gets wacky.
Starting point is 00:24:40 Again, that's our first rule of thumb. Without any blood work or anything to tell us, if we're monitoring our sex drive, we can tell, are my pushing too hard or am I not? For people who have disconnected from their intuition or an inability to listen to their body or they've been unhealthy for so long, they don't really know,
Starting point is 00:24:56 that's where things like CGM and blood work come into play, right? That's where they can help us fine-tune and decide with a little added help and then learn to listen to our body in that process. another big problem with rapid weight loss. And, you know, they talk about this on the show is like the biggest loser. They don't talk about it on that show. But it happens with people that go on the biggest loser, you know, 400, 500 pounds.
Starting point is 00:25:17 They drop 200 pounds over the course of a year. Well, one of the things that fat does is not just a storage for energy later, right? Ancestor, you know, survival-wise, that's very important for us to have a certain amount of fat on our body. Kids need a certain amount of fat to have cognitive and brain development. That's why they store a little bit extra. They have baby fat for that very reason. When you drop or when you have environmental toxins come in, i.e. micropastics, the shit they're spraying in the air with geoengineering.
Starting point is 00:25:49 I just read a study that showed that glass bottles with plastic caps or metal caps had four or five times more microplastics in them than plastic bottles. This is a fucking weird. This is a bizarre world, right? And again, it's just, wow, look it up for yourself. but that to me shows we're constantly inundated with shit that our body has a hard time handling, just part and parcel of being a part of the modern world. And our fat, when our hepatic system has had enough, when our liver and kidneys cannot
Starting point is 00:26:19 continue to filter stuff out, whether that's metals, plastics, pesticides, herbicides, flame retardants, you name it, forever chemicals. When these things, when you get bogged down to a point where you can't clear the system, the body will intelligently tell it to store in fat for a later date. So if you've been unhealthy, if you haven't been eating clean, if you drink tap water, if all the things in your past and you're just new to this and you're like, oh shit, I've been doing it wrong for 20 years, that's okay. But fat loss has to be done very carefully and it can't be too rapid because you're going
Starting point is 00:26:51 to just throw all this stuff back in your system. When we do our five-day fasting mimicking diet in January with Godzi and I, full temple reset, I talked to people beforehand about the potential of running a parasite cleanse and a metal cleanse, a soft metal detox while you do it. And the reason for that is when you fast, again, all these things can get kicked back up. Parasites also store a lot of heavy metals. So if you do a parasite detox, you should pair that with something to help clear metals because parasites will release the metals if you're killing them inside your body. So it's a good idea to stack these or coordinate these in a way that can be beneficial to alleviating some of the extra things that are
Starting point is 00:27:30 getting it tossed around when you start breaking down fat. What else we got? Metals or besides all that stuff. Oh, yeah. So, you know, after getting into Dane Wigington's work, he has a fantastic documentary that's jaw-dropping, eye-opening. It's been on YouTube for a long time. I think it's still there. It's called The Dimming. In that video, he talks about the realness of geoengineering or what people would call chemtrails and how that's been going on, at least since the 1950s. We have black and white footage of one of our presidents bragging about having that technology as a weapon of war. It could be potentially used today as a weapon of war. Who knows? Just saying, all that said, you know, the metals they spray, the nanom metals, medicals, the nanom metals
Starting point is 00:28:17 are spraying in the atmosphere come down. They get into our food. They get into our soil. They get into our water. They get into our lungs. And one of the ways to test for this is to do a hair mental analysis. Now, many of you know, I raise organic kids, free range kids, if you want to call them that, they've never had a single shot, not one. Never needed antibiotics yet either, for that matter. Their immune systems are fantastic. My son is about to turn 11. My daughter's about to turn 6. And when my son was 6, we did a family hair mineral analysis and I had him done just as a, let's just see, right? He's never had a shot, never cooked in an aluminum pan, any of that stuff. And yet both of them. I had all, you know, I'm 44. So I had at least 10 to 12 vaccines before my 18th birthday.
Starting point is 00:29:01 Right now it's in the 70s. Okay. So it's a different, it's not apples to apples when you compare about, you know, the kids today. It's a completely different ballgame. That's not even talking the C19 guy. This is just talking about the childhood schedule. So he's had none. I had my dozen or whatever. And I also didn't eat clean. A like shit through college and all that. We'll get into that in a second, but his aluminum levels came back just as high as mine, and I was blown away. I'm like, this is a six-year-old. He's pristine, right? He's as clean as it gets, and his aluminum levels were high. And so, again, when I talk about what is the cost of living in the modern world, I think metals, metal detoxing needs to be a part of that payment made on an annual basis,
Starting point is 00:29:48 at least once or every two years. Candida and parasite cleanses should be a part of, and of that, right? We're constantly bogged down. Our immune systems are not what they used to be. And with that, even if we're eating well and doing all the other things well, it's a good idea to help the body gently rid ourselves of these things. We're into bone density. All right, again, foundations, right? We talked for Doctors Living. I'm about to launch. Many of you know, we're doing a soft launch, May. So May 1st is coming up on school for my brand new community, the kingdom within. I'm super excited to talk about this. It's been something that I've been working on for over a year. And I think I have the right pieces in place now to launch this. And it's going to dive into a lot
Starting point is 00:30:31 of these topics. A lot of people come to me, you know, that one-on-one clients that I'm like, man, let's get into spiritual shit. Let's do plant medicines. Let's talk about all this other stuff. And there's still an aesthetic piece they want to work on. It's part and parcel, right? So while we will cover the basics of health and wellness, we'll also get into optimization. We'll talk peptides, we'll talk hormones, we'll talk all the things, and we'll talk deeper, we'll talk about the mind, we'll talk about how you set habits and create change in your life. What is integration really look like, whether that's integrating a medicine journey or just integrating a new book that you've read, and how do we start to adopt these things,
Starting point is 00:31:06 even with all the pressures and responsibilities we already have. We'll talk essentialism, which is a cornerstone book in the work-life balance, you know, what does that ratio actually look like, how do I exercise the power of no in my relationships and in my job to make sure that I leave enough time for myself each day, right? Can I fill my cup each day so that it overflows and pours into all the cups around me? My wife, my boss, if I have one, the kids, that kind of thing, right? That's the goal. If I'm always pouring from my cup first, that leaves me with none. And that is martyrdom and it's an unsustainable practice. So we have to find ways, however short, however small, windows to fit in things that lift us, that fill our cups.
Starting point is 00:31:51 And that also takes the reverse of how we've been taught to train in many ways. So, you know, if you grew up with no pain, no gains, if you grew up with, you know, suck it up, pussy, let's go. While there's a time and a place for that on the football field or in MMA, that's not necessarily the case as we begin to age and we want to think more about how do I fit these things in more regularly. I've talked about the book Easy Strength. I'll break that down in detail in the community here.
Starting point is 00:32:19 But easy strength poses a lot of ideas. First and foremost, is if it's worth doing, do it as often as possible. Right. Well, how can I lift weights every day if I'm going 70, 80% of my max? I can't. Not in my 40s. Even with fucking optimized testosterone, that's just not going to work. My nervous system won't handle it.
Starting point is 00:32:37 Can I train with less and do it more often? Absolutely. And does that result in a higher one-rep max? Absolutely. it does and they've proven this. So easy strength is a big conceptual reframe on how to lift weights, how to do general physical preparedness. Chi running, another classic, right? Can you go for a run where when you finish, you have more energy than when you've started? That's the basic, core concept of chi running. Can I run in a way that leaves me more whole, that leaves me more
Starting point is 00:33:04 full, that leaves me capable of going about the rest of my day, excited and ready to get shit done? Those are the runs that I need, right? I can't, even if I'm running after work, work, that's going to, my next transition is being a dad, right? I don't want to come in, exhausted, out of breath, sorry, can't talk right now, give me an hour to cool down. I don't have time for that, right? And nor does that, nor do I want to train in that way anymore. So figuring out ways to tone it down, but then become more consistent are fantastic tools, because when I run, I get the endorphin rush, I get a runner's high, I feel better, I open up the lungs, my posture improves. And as long as I hit the right stretches afterwards, I continue
Starting point is 00:33:43 immobilize my body and get in a new range of motion, which improves my running, it improves my lifting, and it improves my posture, right? All these things have a profound effect on how I interface with the world, right? And so they're very important pieces as pertains to movement, very important foundational pieces. So we'll be deep diving all that stuff. Again, the mind, habits, your excuses, you know, F your excuses. I have all those excuses too, right? A podcast, a farm, kid, two kids, a wife, one-on-one coaching, you know, a community unlaunch, all these things. And it's not to say that what you do doesn't matter, it does matter. But there are ways in which we can stack certain things to get more bang for our buck, more return of investment in a shorter amount of time. And that's,
Starting point is 00:34:28 those are the things that I've hunted down and tracked for the last 15 years, you know, really since retiring from fighting, I want to know, even during fighting. I wanted to know, you know, can I combine some of these tools and techniques that check several boxes at once, right? And even in my work life. I was doing this when I was at on it. I would take calls, video calls from my phone or my laptop outside. That way I'm getting sunlight. I'm shirts off getting the sun. I can turn my video off if it's not appropriate. Walking and talking, super important. A lot of people talk about that. If I can take my one-on-one calls, I'm almost always walking this land outside with a shirt off in my Earthrunner.
Starting point is 00:35:04 So I'm getting grounded. I'm getting full spectrum sunlight. And I'm a better coach because of it. My brain's working better. Again, the oxygenation, the moving of the limbic system. All that takes place when I'm moving, not in stillness. And there's a time and a place for stillness. But if I can combine and check boxes on many things while I'm working and then in between, you know, jobs, if I have space, that will bring me back so much joy and so much of the filling of my cup that it begins to bleed into everything. It makes me better at productivity. It makes me better at parenting. It makes me better at softening and allowing, you know, whatever is troubling my wife or anybody else for that matter. I can hold that, right? I can, I can be. I can be.
Starting point is 00:35:43 the mountain energy for them and hold the storm that comes in without reactivity, without judgment, without being triggered, right? And that's not always the case, but that is, that is the aim point. That's the North Star for me as a father and a husband is, can I be that calm, collected, stable piece for everyone else to be able to bounce ideas off and share their emotions and not be turned from it, you know, to be able to face it frontally and hold that for them. So again, archetypes will be a part of this. You know, we're going to talk about connection. connect to myself. What does my inner dialogue look like? How often does my inner critic have the microphone? Do I listen to that inner critic? Do I shoe them out the door? What if the inner critic's
Starting point is 00:36:24 right? These are all pieces of my interconnection. And then how do I create space? Right? Because we get so caught up in mind shit. How do I create space for that? Meditation is super important. But there's other methods to the same thing. There's other methods to stillness like Tai Chi. And they're very effective. Chi Gong as well, in quieting the mind through movement and breath. Breath work, again, phenomenal tool. So all the tools that I've learned over the years, I want to convey to you guys, and I want the people that I'm bringing in that are on the same path to be able to share those tools with others as well.
Starting point is 00:36:55 That's what building community is all about. It's what we did in Fit for Service, and it worked phenomenally for six years. So launching the kingdom within, again, like that name to me, all these things, whether it's how I look or how I feel, it all bodes back to the kingdom within. and not just the kingdom of heaven and accessing that, but my own inner kingdom is the thing that I am concerned with most in the world. The health of that translates to the health of everything else I do. And so when we begin to learn the levers and the on-off switches in our own operating system,
Starting point is 00:37:26 kind of like inside out, now we know, this is who I want to be, and I can start to flip these switches to become that being. And that being that I'm becoming is a fucking awesome being, right? It's the best version of myself. And so we're going to learn that together. We're going to grow together. Kingdom Within is $150 a month.
Starting point is 00:37:45 I'll link to in the show notes. We basically have a one-month deep dive webinar with Q&A on top of that. And then two weeks later, we'll do a strict Q&A. So I answer any and all questions, relationships, interconnection, mind, habits, all the things we just discussed. And a lot more. We'll talk about what does it mean to be sovereign, right? There's a big movement in the sovereignty movement since 2020.
Starting point is 00:38:05 And, you know, some people poke fun at that and say, oh, you're going to go, you know, live like. Timothy McVeigh out in the wilderness by yourself. And it's like, no, no, no, can I hold sovereignty in one hand and hold the interconnectivity of all things and the other? How do I bridge that gap? How do I build community with like-minded individuals that don't trust our government, that want to be off-grid on-grid, you know, that don't do it all themselves, but do create more than they need so they can share and barter and trade with other people who are doing something else, right? That's how communities work. We have sheep, you know, we don't have cows,
Starting point is 00:38:39 anymore, but I like cow. So can I trade some sheep for a cow? Sure. Do I have neighbors to do that with? Absolutely. We've got a food for us with certain fruits, but other fruits might grow better at my buddy's place in Bastrop and my buddy's place in dripping springs. These are all ways in which we can work together to build community and sovereignty through interconnectivity. So that's a big piece of it as well. Taxes and shit like that is a big piece of it as well. I'll just leave it there since we're on video right now. What else do we have? nature family you know nature is a big one a lot of people feel better in nature i always laughed when i was at on it this study came out that we wrote an article on that came in a japan and it was called
Starting point is 00:39:21 forest bathing is what they were calling it forest bathing you mean being fucking human is what is what they were they were studying what they found in japan which is you know first world country it's a lot like ours people literally work themselves to death um and you know a lot of them are on SSRIs. They get depressed and they feel no way out and they're trying to pay the bills in Tokyo, whatever the case may be. So what they found was a 60% drop in general depression if people spent 30 minutes a day, three days a week walking in nature, forest bathing. There was still a reduction in depression and elevation of mood just from walking in the city, but it was not nearly as profound. What does this say to us? It says the fucking obvious.
Starting point is 00:40:08 right, that we need to spend time in nature, not just for full spectrum sunlight, but because the plants are in constant communication with us, our environment is in constant communication with us. I know 99% of you aren't going to start a farm and you don't have to, but finding your little space, I'll tell this story, I've told this story before too, but I once did a concert dose of acid while in New York City on a podcast run and with my producer, Ryan Giles, and we had been out the night before staying up late. being bad boys. But we took this and we're walking through the New York City streets like, holy shit,
Starting point is 00:40:45 this is not the move. This was way too much. Again, concert dose, you know, a hit or so. But it was like the 100 micrograms was on blast in the buzz of New York City. And we make it to Central Park. And it was like the gates of heaven opened up for us. And we went and laid next to an old tree and just, oh, my God, pure sanctuary. in oasis with water in the desert of New York.
Starting point is 00:41:10 And that was one of the most palpable displays of what nature can do because, you know, sensitivity is heightened on any psychedelic. But it proved to me, you know, whether I'm on psychedelics or not, that that's still taking place. The buzz of the city is still taking place, even if it's not on the part with New York. But the forest is still there. And where the forest is, there's calm, there's tranquility. There's a reset.
Starting point is 00:41:34 And there's a shift. in neurochemistry. There's a shift in immune function. There's a shift in all things that I want to shift towards wellness if I can spend time in nature. So we'll deep dive many topics alongside that, you know, gardening. If you've got a quarter acre, I grew all kinds of shit at my mom's house when we lived in the garage and I was fighting. We had a tenth of an acre here in Austin and we turned it into this fantastic backyard that was basically our own sanctuary. Dr. Will Tagle, who was one of my mentors before he passed away, he spoke about the fact, you know, because I was like, really want land. I'm telling him this. And I'm like, I don't feel like I can do anything until I get it.
Starting point is 00:42:09 He goes, no. Everything contains its own eco field, right? Each of us as human beings, we're extramented beings. Think of that teroidal field. Think of the heart chakra from heart math, all scientifically proven, and that emanation that takes place that's in constant contact with all things. In a way, individually, we are our own ecofield. When that comes into contact with other beings, right? That eco-field can be enhanced. And the same is true for your plot of land. If you start planting trees and bamboo and fruit trees and you're nourishing them, singing to them, talking to them, throwing grass seed down and not spraying glyphosate and a bunch of toxic shit in your yard, that has a profound effect on the energy that is there, whether that's a tenth of an
Starting point is 00:42:52 acre or an apartment balcony, it's going to change the way you feel with it on a daily basis. It's going to be palpable. And that eco-field is all. also in residence with all the other eco fields around it. You know, we started changing our backyard. Our neighbors did the exact same thing. I'm not taking credit for that, but many of our neighbors started planting trees and doing a lot of shit because we gained permission. We were doing the same thing. And there was an invitation to start to plant more. You know, they'd see us come home from Home Depot with a gang of trees in the back. Like, what'd you get this time? You know, and that was awesome. That was an awesome time where we didn't have much land, but we were still able to do a lot with it.
Starting point is 00:43:30 So nature is going to be a big component of this. Again, it doesn't matter if you have a farm or not. Our relationship to food is obviously incredibly important. We do all our own harvesting here. I've spoken about this a lot with guys like Daniel Firth Griffith. We will deep dive all that stuff. And again, you don't have to grow your own food. You don't have to start a farm.
Starting point is 00:43:47 You don't have to buy animals or raise them at your house. But it's a good idea to know where your food comes from. Know the farmers that are raising your food. Go spend time on their land. And we're going to deep dive a lot of cool ways to do that. What else? We talk nature or family. Family is important, whether you're a parent or not. Family is important because very few of us are islands, right? Very few of us are islands where maybe you were an orphan, the people you raised you didn't, you know, that raised you
Starting point is 00:44:14 you didn't like and you have no siblings. You have no parents. You have no kids or desire to have kids. That's a different category all in and of itself. But even if you're not a parent, you have parents, right? And that interaction with them can be incredibly challenging, right? it's no different in my life. That said, you know, how you communicate nonviolently, how you relate to them, how you own the fact that your triggers are your own, Don Miguel Ruiz, Master of Love, all these things come into play in those relationships. Family is such an important piece. And so we really spend some time there. Again, parenting, I've got an 11-year-old and a 6-year-old.
Starting point is 00:44:52 We haven't even entered the teen years yet. You know, my niece just turned 13 and I'm just like, oh boy, you know, like shit. Shit's about to pop off. We just celebrated a red tent. And so I'm curious to see how that unfolds. I know how I was when I was a teenager. But I won't pretend to have parenting mastered. I think anybody that does that is either a fool or it's their full-time job.
Starting point is 00:45:14 So guys like Dr. Leonard Sachs, who wrote The Collapse of Parenting, Phenomenal book. He has, he's a family medicine doctor. So he sees kids on the medicine side. and he's also a PhD in psychology. So he has an incredible viewpoint in working with thousands of kids over the last two, three decades. And that makes him unique. So he is an expert. So I lean on guys like that with conveying different messages about how to.
Starting point is 00:45:39 You'll never hear me say, you know, I got this dialed. Anybody that says that has not been apparent long enough because shit changes. And the second you've got something dialed, it changes. And now you're dealing with a completely different person. that said there have been things that have helped us and so we'll relay that again leonore sexted boys adrift it's a fantastic book on modern boys and girls on the edge fantastic book on how to raise young women all right that pretty much covers a lot of what we'll deep dive in that back to yeah and then lastly you know who's it for before we move on to to some of the other stuff
Starting point is 00:46:16 that i've got cooking who it's for is like-minded people that want to grow want to learn want to evolve want community, want to befriend other people. Maybe you live in a place where you're the only guy eating organic or you're the only guy who gives a shit how his animal was killed. Maybe, you know, you go to the gym and there's like one other person there that wants to lift weights the way you do. Whatever that case is, you know, we need those things locally, but we also need to be seen, felt and heard from a group of people that get it, right?
Starting point is 00:46:43 And that's what digital communities do. They also offer the chance for meetups, which we'll be doing plenty of. I'm doing my events here at the farm in Lockhart. we've got space for like 25 people to sleep here, the first 25 that signed up for an event. So again, as I release events, we'll be able to hear about that. But it's for people that want to do good, that want to do better for themselves. You know, I don't like the term self-empowerment, but that's a piece of it. You know, optimization is a piece that gets thrown around.
Starting point is 00:47:09 That works too. But it's people that want to grow and learn. And you may know a lot about some of these topics, right? You may have weight training dialed. You might be a personal trainer. You might be from the Czech Institute. Totally cool. We want people like that because those people are bringing something table as well,
Starting point is 00:47:24 and they're still polishing the mirror, as we all are. And as long as you get that and you come with the beginner's mind, then we can learn and grow together. Who it's not for? It's not for somebody who wants a certification. If you want to get certified as a holistic life coach, take check stuff. It's phenomenal. I loved HLC1. I haven't given myself the time to do two and three, but people like JPCS that I know
Starting point is 00:47:45 that have done the whole program, swear by it. They love it. So I highly encourage you if you want certs. go through the Check Institute, get certified in whatever it is that's interesting to you. You know, whatever's calling you forward, that's the thing you should be spending time on and spending your money on. If you want the community and you want to learn and grow, then this is what it's about. You're not going to get a grade report at the end.
Starting point is 00:48:06 You're not going to get certified, Kyle Kingsbury anything. This is more about the community and our own personal growth. All right. Something else I'm cooking up. Nine-week cohort fast track that is going to bridge the gap for people. So, again, we'll have these monthly calls. We'll have these monthly Q&As, so, you know, bi-monthly, you know, two calls a month where we're really deep dive. They're going to be 90 minutes to two hours at times.
Starting point is 00:48:28 So they'll be lengthy. You can watch these after the fact. They'll be sent out via email to people or left on school so you can just watch them there. And we'll have message boards and shit like that so chats can happen. I can take your questions beforehand if you're going to miss one. The nine-week cohort is a fast track. It's a fast track to get people up to speed on everything that I consider to be foundational. So if you were in fit for service and you took my physically full.
Starting point is 00:48:49 fit class, you can consider this physically fit 2.0, right? We're going to, we have to tackle the body first because everything bridges off of that. You know, 80% of our, of our neurotransmitters are coming from the microbiome. So if I don't have a healthy gut, it's, I don't have a healthy me. Dr. Michael Ruscio has been on the podcast, wrote the book, Healthy gut, healthy you, right? These are, these are important plays on word that actually matter. So we get in the body. We get in a lot of the things that I've talked about today. Then we get into habits. We get into the mind, as I've talked about as well. Again, you're going to get this over the course of the year throughout the year and year after year in the community, but the nine weeks is a fast track. It's a fast track for the
Starting point is 00:49:27 most important things that I feel are necessary to lift us up and get us, you know, 80, 90% of the way there. Then we can fine tune after. We're also going to talk nature. We're going to talk communion. I'm new to the dry fast. This will be my second year. So I'm not going to speak about that as if I know exactly what the fuck it is, but it's something that has called to me. There are other forms, darkness retreats. I'm going to do my first one in June. Again, no mastery there, just curiosity. Guys, you know, if you want to learn about that, you can listen to my podcast with Eric Godzi. They're fantastic.
Starting point is 00:49:57 He's done a handful of those, Aubrey Marcus podcast. He's got some cool, cool trip reports from his darkness retreats. And then medicines. I got a lot of experience of plant medicines and theogens, psychedelics, and drugs in general. So that's going to be a piece of this because communion is, you know, making one with the center, making one with our creator. And to me, that is something we all desire, whether we know it or not. We can find it through meditation.
Starting point is 00:50:23 Obviously, meditation will be a big piece of this. And I'll give you, you know, all my teachers. You guys want to learn from the people that I learn from. That makes me happier than anything. You know, get a little bit for me, get the cliff notes from me. But if you want to deep dive certain topics, I'm going to pass you off. I'm a concierge for the best people in the world. And I think that's a great tool to have.
Starting point is 00:50:41 All right. Next thing. finally long awaited i am co-creating uh as a founder a kid supplement company we're going to call it ballers youth nutrition and it's going to launch later in quarter two um so if you have kids and you're tired of mixing different supplements and making sure they get the right nutrients into their body this will tackle things on all basis it's it's meant to enhance cognitive function it's meant to give them all the micronutrients they need to improve sex hormones when they're going through puberty. Every decade, our testosterone for the general population declines. Every decade,
Starting point is 00:51:20 our sperm count declines, not just in the West, but the entire world. And that's a problem. When you go to telemedicine company, they see you have an 800 testosterone score 20 years ago, that would have been low or mid. That wouldn't have been considered high or good. Right. And so how we fix that is we eliminate the toxins. We do the four doctors living. and we also make sure that the things that are necessary to make those, the zinc, the magnesium, all the things that are required as precursors to that, that we have that on deck. My kids have been eating beef liverware since they were six months old. The bear eats oysters with me at least once or twice a week.
Starting point is 00:51:56 I don't know many kids that are doing that. But like when it comes to superfoods, these contain the micronutrients that all children need. And so we figured out a way to work that in to the supplement. We've got an AM pack, a PM pack, there's omega-3 fatty acids in there, there's methylated B vitamins, neutropics like Alpha GPC. I don't know a lot of kids other than mine that are eating a ton of egg yolk. So there's a lack of chlorine, which is super important for cognitive development and function. Alpha-GPC is a super bioavailable form of chlorine, right?
Starting point is 00:52:26 So we've added all these things at really good doses, just five grams of creatine. Creatine's a neutropic. It's not just for muscle. It enhances your recovery. It helps with cognitive function. and it's really good for optimizing the mitochondria. We also have mitochondria-specific optimizers like quercetin and PQ. PQQ is known for creating more mitochondria, right?
Starting point is 00:52:48 Is it mitosis, mitogenesis, something like that? So the increase of the replication of more mitochondria, we need that, right? As Jack Cruz points out, there's more mitochondria in your brain and your heart than anywhere else in your body. And these are the little factories that create energy. It's what's, you know, when most people talk about increasing cognitive function, they really want cognitive endurance. And you're not talking about actually increasing IQ points. You're talking about can I work hard and sustain that for a long period of time? And that's where mitochondria comes into play.
Starting point is 00:53:18 That's where things like ketone and creatine come into play. So for the kids, no ketones, but for the kids, I think this is going to be, I'm proud. Let me just put it that way. I'm fucking super happy in formulating this. My son loves it. He's been taking it already. and I think it's going to do a lot for the world. Not just for sports and athletics.
Starting point is 00:53:38 Obviously, Ballers Use Nutrition is going after the athlete market, but it's also for academics. It's for kids who give a shit. It's for kids who want to be healthy. You want to keep their immune system high. And it works. And I can't wait to release this. All right, so be on the lookout for Ballers Use Nutrition.
Starting point is 00:53:52 All right, let's continue the conversation there. Testosterone. A lot of people ask me about testosterone. You know, you take TRT? What's going on there? You see if it work out video and I got a big pump with my blood flow restriction. and that kind of stuff. And the truth is, I've taken testosterone since I was a kid.
Starting point is 00:54:07 I've taken testosterone in an attempt to play professional football and get bigger than I am. This is my natural weight 222. And there's pros and cons to that. In the conversation with kids, right, where did Liver King fail? He lied, right? Well, Liver King lied according to him because of the fact that kids were asking him online, do you take steroids?
Starting point is 00:54:26 And his thing was like, oh, fuck, I don't want them to do this. And he said, no, go ahead and work hard. Now have your opinion of him and table. It doesn't matter. I have openly talked about this on podcasts like The Drive on Peter Atia's podcast. So it's not something I've ever hit from anybody. At the same point, you know, let's talk about the cons. The cons are I have no sperm.
Starting point is 00:54:46 That's it, right? I can't have more kids, even if I wanted to without adopting or doing some crazy shit. All that said, you know, it would have been nice to have more kids. That would have been cool. There are ways in which you can work with different things, post-cycle therapy, that allow you to kind of have your cake and eat it to. That's a different discussion. I ran the hell out of anabolic steroids during college to try to get as big and as strong
Starting point is 00:55:09 as I possibly could when I was at Arizona State. I could never crack the 270 pound mark. My bones just weren't made for it. But I was strong. I had a 405 bench press. I felt like fucking Hercules. And it was a cool run. And it was one that was unsustainable, right?
Starting point is 00:55:23 What goes up must come down. And that started to, you know, peel off. When I got into mixed martial arts, again, I wasn't producing much of my own testosterone. and at that time, there were quite a few people in the game that were doing things similarly. So a low dose of testosterone became a very important piece in my fight career to maintain recovery. And so, like, again, I'm the same way that I was as a junior in high school right now. Do I look different? Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:55:49 Am I stronger? Absolutely. Less body fat? Absolutely. Does testosterone help with protein synthesis, muscle building, recovery, fat loss? Yes, check every box, right? And so the conversation around testosterone is one that needs to happen because to me it's not enough to say change the way you eat, get good sleep and lift heavy and all of a sudden your testosterone is
Starting point is 00:56:11 going to go up. Rob Wolf did a fantastic podcast on Paul Checks that was four hours long and he spoke to this. He spoke, you know, Rob Wolf's buddy is doing Brazilian jiu-jitsu now. Obviously, Czech is a mentor and a buddy. He talked about being a raw vegan for a couple years in college and how that tanked his natural production and that does happen. So sorry vegans, that does happen. Teng is natural production of testosterone.
Starting point is 00:56:33 And now that he's in his 50s and he's working towards getting his jiu-s black belt, he wanted to make sure he could recover and stay on the mat. So he started working with something called HCG, Human Cryonic Anatotropin, and Enchlomaphene. These are pregnancy hormones given to women to increase fertility. They're also given to men to increase fertility, sperm count. What they do is they act a few layers up to downstream, kick on the lady excels, testosterone production and sperm production, lutonizing hormone,
Starting point is 00:57:01 follicle stimulating hormone, and what you end up with is a better means for producing your own natural testosterone. Is it unnatural? Yes. The pharmaceutical? Yes.
Starting point is 00:57:10 But it's meant to kick on your own natural production. If you're failing in testosterone, you've got like a 250 or something like that, I've worked with a lot of people. Now, I'm sure there will be people here that say I fix hundreds of people's testosterone. If you find the guy like that, go for it. but it didn't happen through plants.
Starting point is 00:57:30 Everyone's selling tribulous, terrestrious, that shit might work for two to three weeks, and then your body normalizes it doesn't work anymore. Rob Wolf cycled on and off of these pregnancy hormones until his natural level maintained the level that he needed. And that to me says a lot. This is a guy who knew about eating the right food, who had, who had metabolic flexibility, who trained well, who slept well, who was the face of paleo-fx for many years, and still understood like this is something
Starting point is 00:57:59 I'm not going to get to where I want to be without changing how my body responds and so I feel like there's a place for this conversation amongst people when you start to get into this space I don't see dramatic ROI when your testosterone's hitting the floor and you're trying to do a whole lot of changes at once.
Starting point is 00:58:16 I just don't. Does that mean you need to go on TRT? Absolutely not. And that's not what I'm trying to say here. For me personally, because my cells have been turned off for so long, if I go on H.D. and clomophine, my testosterone doesn't go anywhere. So I am pigeonholed into taking TRT as long as I want to have a normal level of testosterone.
Starting point is 00:58:36 And again, one thing that Joe Rogan talks about all the time is the point of diminishing returns, meaning when you have so much muscle that's good in the gym, but it doesn't track to athleticism. I felt that before. I felt that, you know, when I was doing powerlifting and shit like that, and I went back to Jiu-Jitsu and I was like, fuck, I'm 238 pounds. and I'm getting smoked on the map by guys way smaller than me. I have no endurance. I'm pumped to all hell.
Starting point is 00:58:59 This ain't going to work. Right? And so finding that balance point of what's right for me, that's the goal we should all have. What is the balance point of, you know, food? Am I getting enough to recover for my workouts? Am I reducing my workout load when I'm trying to lean out because I'm having less calories? All this stuff is a part of a holistic conversation.
Starting point is 00:59:20 And, you know, Victor Conti was a guy who taught me a lot. recently passed away. Victor Conti was the guy behind Balco, Bay Area Laboratory Corporation. In the Bay Area, he worked with Barry Bonds, Marion Jones. A lot of kids won't know who I'm talking about right now, but he was changing sports at the Olympic and the professional level and doing that through, you know, performance-enhancing drugs. And so he went to jail because he was hooking up all these guys. When he got out, that's when I started working with him. And so Victor never gave me anything other than his knowledge. And I'm eternally grateful for that knowledge. one of the things he said, again, this speaks to recovery and the why behind optimizing testosterone
Starting point is 00:59:59 is, you know, one of his clients was Bill Romanowski. Romo, again, young kids won't know that guy, but he was one of the most ferocious, badass linebackers that ever played football. And he maintained that into his 40s, which is unheard of. Now, again, this is according to Victor, not Bill. Bill's favorite of all the PEDs wasn't testosterone, wasn't growth hormone, it wasn't any of these things, and he took them all. It was EPO, erythropoin. Now, EPO, you may know from Tour to France, Lance Armstrong, guys like that. I don't think Lance could have been doing other shit than EPO, you know, to get in trouble. But EPO works by, it's a hormone that signals for your body to create more red blood cells. Now, what that means, and we know this kind of, if you reverse
Starting point is 01:00:45 engineer, what happens in hyperbaric oxygen? Well, hyperbaric oxygen, you go down two to three atmospheric pressure and all of a sudden, more oxygen gets into your body. Oxygen kills viruses, bad bugs, bad bacteria. It increases your ability to recover from workouts. It is incredibly healing. If you have a burn or road rash from a motorcycle accident, hyperag oxygen is incredible. Any type of TBI or brain trauma, hybrid oxygen is incredible. And so you can think of EPO when you raise the red blood cells to the level that is raised, but not too much. You don't want sludge pump it through your veins. That gives you more oxygen. So what Romo's point was, he said, EPO isn't about the fact that I don't get tired.
Starting point is 01:01:26 It's about the fact that I'm recovering due to the oxygen level so much faster than anything else does. And so that stood out to me. I don't take EPO. But that is one of the reasons I enjoy testosterone is because of the fact that it increases my recovery time. It's not doing it. It's a completely different vector. It's not doing the way EPO does. It's not doing the way oxygen does.
Starting point is 01:01:46 But can I optimize the blood as well? And there is a way. So Victor taught me about altitude training as well. We worked with a company called hypoxico and it's about a $4,000 unit. You hook yourself up to the mask and you can breathe there, simulating an altitude of 12 to 20,000 feet. And there's tons of different protocols on how to do this. There's sleep tents you can sleep in. And so I was doing that my whole career and loved it. And while it didn't increase my red blood cell count, it increased my red blood cell width, meaning each red blood cell got wider and had more oxygen carrying capacity. Again, can I I get the benefits of EPO without it. And can I increase recovery? Right? Because I love to train.
Starting point is 01:02:25 I love it. My body likes it. I like to sweat. I like to push myself. And I also like to scale that down and just move. You know, when I go, right now I'm doing a bunch of runs and I'll talk about yeah, I'll talk about that. So again, moving out of PEDs, recovery being important because of the joy of movement, right? And I hope that people can find that. You may not like power lifting. You may not like bodybuilding. You may not like anything. But the thing you like, do it. Right. If you love pickleball, do that and then accompany that with something that makes you better at pick a ball, like mobility and strength training. My wife is a runner.
Starting point is 01:02:57 She loves distance running. I don't like distance running. But if I jog, I can jog distance and actually feel good. When I run fast and hard, it's got to be sprint work. That's just how I'm designed. But getting into Zone 2, so again, no affiliation with these guys. We had Dr. Dan Party on the podcast, who is now the face of Qualia and the neurohacker collective guys.
Starting point is 01:03:17 They're phenomenal. I've had James Schmachtenberger on this podcast. a few times. Dan's awesome. I coach his kids in judithu. He's going to come back on after I take this second test. But I was telling him about Generation Lab here. So this test is kind of one of the better companies right now for longevity. It's an at-home test that you take. And it'll show you, you know, what is your biological age versus your chronological age and system by system? So not just from the totality, but also your circulatory system, you know, how's your heart aging, cognitive system, endocrine system, musculoskeletal systems,
Starting point is 01:03:53 reproductive system, hepatic system. And so all these things are on display for you to see what's doing well, what needs work. And then they give a lot of recommendations on how to fix that. Now, oddly enough for me, and I think this goes back to all the cocaine that I did at Arizona State while juice to the gills, I think that makes sense from a heart standpoint. My heart has aged faster than anything else. My liver and kidneys, believe it or not, are aging in reverse. I don't know if the Coke and the alcohol was a hermetic stressor for my DNA, but they're younger.
Starting point is 01:04:24 They're a lot younger. My heart is about seven years older, right? So that's a big concern at 44. Can I do something now that changes my trajectory so I don't have a heart attack when I'm older or I don't have heart complications when I'm older? Absolutely, you can't, right? And there's no, I grant, genetics can tell a part of the story, but not the whole story. And I don't believe in genetic determinism.
Starting point is 01:04:46 So lifestyle choices matter. And so the lifestyle recommendations they give there are awesome. They say lift weights. Well, I do that already. High intensity interval training. I do that already. I use blood flow restriction, right? Getting back to altitude training, that's what blood flow restriction is doing.
Starting point is 01:05:00 It's simulating a hypoxic setting by reducing arterial flow back to the heart from the veins. So venous return gets slowed down. The pump happens in the limbs, but the entire body starts to have less oxygen. And now as I'm training in that doing high intensity intervals, I'm maximizing gains. maximizing a natural secretion of gross hormone. And I have tons of podcasts on that with Dr. Mike DeBoard. Check those out if you want to know more on blood flow restriction as it pertains to altitude training and, you know, EPO and those kind of things.
Starting point is 01:05:31 So because I'm doing all this stuff already, one of the things I'm not doing that they recommend for the heart. And that's zone two exercise. I would do that intermittently. You know, there's been periods of my life where I ran more because I had a race coming up, like a 55K Ultra and Zion. That was the only time I really ran consistently. but now I've been running consistently because Zone 2 is one of the things that I'm not checking that box on.
Starting point is 01:05:54 In addition to that, I need to increase my omega-3 fatty acids. So again, shout out to Dr. Dan for telling me about this. Omega quant, you can order this on Amazon. It's about $100. This is an out-home test you take that tells you right away, what are the omega-3 levels in my body, one of my omega-6 levels, and what is the ratio? In large part, this determines inflammatory response. and a whole cascade of other things, we want to fix and remedy.
Starting point is 01:06:21 So, you know, eating oysters is going to be good. Eating small fish like sardines is good. I don't have to worry about heavy metals as much as I would if I was eating a larger fish, tuna and things of that nature. But I can get my omega-3s there, and then I can supplement with omega-3s. And a good omega-3 supplement, I think, is important. If it makes you burp, it's rancid. Throw it out or take it back to whole food.
Starting point is 01:06:42 So liquids are generally not well tolerated by my body. if you burp, it's gone bad. Capsules should go down. They're going to have a fishy taste and smell, but you shouldn't burp up fish oil. So good capsules. I like Thorns products. There's a new one I'm trying.
Starting point is 01:06:57 I forget the name of the company, but again, I'm not affiliated with any of these guys. Test it out for yourself. And again, we're going to have an incredibly high-level omega-3 in ballers use nutrition for the kids. Those are the two big tests that I'm looking at. Can I run consistently every day, mile and a half, two miles, zone two style, continue with the other things that I'm already doing,
Starting point is 01:07:18 increase the omega-3s, and then take this test again, which this will be my second one, and report back on what that is. So that's what I'm going to do. I'll have Dr. Dan party on the podcast when those results come in, and we're going to shoot the shit and deep dive optimization. And Dr. Dan knows a lot, so I'm excited for that. All right. Lastly, the cheat code. Again, I talked about the podcast that I recently did with Adam Shell from Brain Supreme. These guys are my only sponsor right now. So this is the ad for them. They're incredible.
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Starting point is 01:07:59 Listen to the last podcast, they did with Adam Schell for all the ins and outs, the how-to guide. Again, it's fantastic if you want flow state. So whether you're playing pickleball or going to the beach, If you want to drop in a flow state, this is an automatic way to get you into flow. It's also a great way to learn something new.
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