Kyle Kingsbury Podcast - #469 David Weck returns!

Episode Date: September 15, 2026

David Weck returns to the podcast and drops a ton of wisdom from his new book and life experience. I laughingly say "I don't think anyone other than David could make 'Balance training' so desirable." I've learned so much from his philosophy on movement and life. Enjoy and check out all of David Weck's awesome training methods and inventions here... https://www.weckmethod.com/   Brain Supreme is the best microdosing company on Earth- the Genius and the Athlete are my favorite products but all of them work incredibly well for a variety of purposes. Get 15% off everything in the store by using code "KKP" at checkout.  https://brainsupreme.co/collections/all I just launched my new community The Kingdom Within on Skool- sign up now for a free 7 day trial. This community is for people who are dedicated to learning and making positive changes in their lives. Read here for more... https://www.skool.com/the-kingdom-within-5541/about

Welcome to today's podcast. We have the return of my brother, David Weck. David Weck, of course, the inventor of the Bosu ball, the propulsors, and many other things, RMT clubs, really the inventor of rope flow too. So you see all rope flow guys blowing up. You might see me on Instagram, using the thick rope, not really jumping, just drag and rolling and moving it around, you know, opening up the spine. A lot of people in functional fitness find a use for it. That all comes from David. David is a genius. He thinks outside the box. And he is not afraid to piss people off. And he's got a fucking little angry bone in them,

which I appreciate because it gives him his fire and his spark. And he's quite passionate about what he does. I've been training with Connor Milstein for the last year and a half. He's been on the podcast multiple times. And David was one of Connor's mentors. So a little lineage history there like you would with Jiu-Jitsu or anything else. David has a new book coming out October 17th. And so that, you know, we're a little ways away from the book launch, but, you know, make a note in your calendar.

He's going to sell it for $1.99. Just buy it for $2. It is well worth your time. I just spent the last week reading it. And we unpack a lot of what's in that book, but there is so much more that we didn't have time to discuss today. David's a guy could have on the podcast a dozen times and we'd still be just scratching the surface. So this is a great podcast. I think what he lays out in the book, it's not only entertaining.

and informative of David's life. But it's really cool to map because what we did in our first podcast, we kind of mapped the trajectory of each of his inventions, the why behind it, you know, are all things birthed out of necessity. But with the writing of the book, it was just so much more personal

and so awesome to see, you know, behind the scenes, like what makes him tick. And entertaining is all hell, super informative. And, you know, as I joke about in the podcast, he's probably the only fucking guy that could make balance sexy. that could make like the idea of training balance, something that a, you know, type A athlete who used to give a shit about, you know, like, what's your bench press?

Like, I got, you know what myself. He's probably the only guy that could make me think like this is outside of maybe Paul Check that this is something that should be desired and get you fired up to want to train balance. And I can tell you right now from personal experience in training with Connor for the last year and a half, but also in just doing basic shit on a bowsuit ball and with the flow rope that, that when you increase balance, you increase all other intangibles, right? And so we talk about, you know, on this podcast, his math equation of strength over balance equals power. And you might say, oh, you know, powers, how fast you move something heavy. Like, yes, yes, but really understand, you know, power, where you get your power from, it comes from strength, it comes from speed, it comes from all those things, but it is all a factor of how much balance you have.

You're only as strong as your weakest link. and one of the beautiful things he lays out from that book and his time in Chinese medicine and Tai Chi is this understanding that balance is affecting our nervous system. Our nervous system is always checking in with our environment. And if we're off balance, if our posture sucks, that affects not just how I look. It affects how I feel. It affects my confidence and my anxious. All of it's interconnected.

I've been teaching people for years that true mental health always starts with the body. True emotional health always starts with the body. and as you get a level of self-mastery, that's a springboard to higher levels of consciousness. It's a springboard for greater levels of productivity, productivity, greater levels of connectivity in relationships, and greater sense of empathy, all of it from having your body right. So David maps this beautifully, and I've said enough here, support this sponsor, support this show, support this show by sending it to friends,

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All right, without further ado, my brother, David Weck. David Weck, welcome back to the podcast. This is awesome, brother. I'm so happy you're here. Oh, man, I couldn't be more excited. This has been great. You sent me a copy of your new book that's about to release, and I was thrilled. We had a great podcast the first go-round.

I learned a lot about you, but the book really went deep and so many things, not just telling the story of your career and your inventions, but deep into you. And I really appreciated that. I really appreciated getting to witness,

you know, the man behind the man, you know, the inner workings that make you who you are. I think that that's an important factor to sort of bear your soul and reveal sort of your fundamental motivations, the trials, tribulations, the successes, the failures, and basically that, you know, I can always take another step. I can always take another step and to go from a, you know,

a position where you don't know things to you've discovered things. And really the intent of the book is I want people to understand how simple it is to establish and make maintain physical integrity when you walk as the fundamental foundation for winning at life, as in more joy, less pain, never giving up, and actualizing your fullest potential with just a practical, pragmatic and very simple way to reside in this realm, you know, physically that is accountable in a manner that's not uptight, not restricted without even knowing it. Yeah, I think that that's such a critical piece that people really don't understand. You know, I feel like having been 268 pounds when I played football at Arizona State,

I could feel the difference. That weight came off incrementally, you know, when I first got into fighting, I was 245 pounds. It became very hard for me training full-time to stay in the 240s. That was a 238. That weight kept coming down. They're like, hey, I think you could fight at light heavyweight. I was like, well, if Brock Lesnar is cutting to make 265 pounds, and Shane Carwin's cutting to make 265 pounds,

and my teammate, Kane, who's going to be world champions, already 245, maybe I should try to drop. And, of course, nobody knew about John Jones back then. We were rookies the same year. But, you know, that's what got me to get down in weight. And then I found, you know, light heavy weights actually probably where I belong. But it came off in stages, and I can still feel the difference. I didn't feel fat.

I didn't feel overweight. I was running stadium stairs as a 268-pound guy in pads, right? I could do that. But, man, you know, resting heart rate, just all these things started to open up. I think people can use the analogy that, like, imagine if you have a 40-pound weight vest on your whole life and you drop that 40 pounds, right? That'd be a big difference in how your body feels. And that's just speaking to, you know, obesity and things of that nature.

But from a nervous system perspective, which is really one of the core themes throughout, you know, the book and what you're teaching is that we don't even recognize, you know, like the more spun up we are. If that's, if that's our baseline, then that's just the baseline, you know, and it might take meeting somebody else who's much calmer where you're just like, oh, that guy's calm, you know, what are you drinking, buddy? You know, like, I've got a lot of shit to do. I'm going. But how much of that has to do with how our spine is an alignment or unalignment, how we walk, how we carry ourselves, our posture in all of those things. And a lot of the training practices that, you know, we were taught in football and growing up in general and from muscle and fitness do not necessarily make us better.

They don't tone the nervous system. They don't make us better at becoming more grounded, right? You talk a lot about feet in the book. That's an important conversation to talk about today. But I just wanted to say I was blown away by the connecting points you made in how we operate in the realm, right? How do I fill this body can actually determine not just how I appear to other people, but how I think, how I feel my general baseline nervous system of mine, fight or flight constantly? It is, you have a low dose. You know, my microdosing anxiety 24-7?

Is that my natural neutral state? No, it's not, but that might be my neutral state, you know, for the last 20 years. It's fixable and it's fixable through the body. And I think that's a really critical point. It's not fixable from a fucking pill. It's not fixable from, you know, some crazy thing out there. It's, it's right here. It's accessible.

And I think you do a great job of bridging those gaps and threading this all together. Because I'll be honest, when I opened it and I said, you know, you've got a 21-day guide to walking better at the end. I laughed out loud. I was like, I think he's, Dave was probably the only fucking guy they can get away with saying, here's your 21 day walking routine and still have people finish the book. You're like, that's the least sexiest shit I've ever read. You know, like, when you think about like, grow an inch on your biceps in 21 days, you know, or add 50 pounds to your bench breast shit that I geeked out when I was a kid,

if I thought I'd be reading a 21 day walk better routine and actually have any care in the world about it, I don't think I don't think I could have done that, but you can pull this off. Oh, that's amazing. Well, first of all, football was my love. Okay? I loved it more than anything. I played eight years and I was Division III because there is no div four. Okay.

But the goal for football was always bigger, faster, stronger, or bigger, stronger. And so I would eat 10,000 calories a day in high school just, and my neck was big, but I was small. And then I played D back in college, so I couldn't. play quite the same weight as I was in high school. But what I learned in life is that in order to make the hard and the strong more effective, you counterbalance it with the soft and receptive. And if you can go to polarities there, and that's why I really love the martial arts, because sensitivity and skillful strength is the essence of martial arts. And a wrestler knows how to make himself invisible to your force, a jiu-jitsu player. It's as much about that. You can't find me so that I get to exploit the fact

that I'm not even as strong as you, but I still get to tap you or choke you or whatever I'm going to do. And for me, I had never experienced any desire to get softer, more receptive. Like, no, Oh, it was always just, you know, greet your teeth and I'm going to plow you over. And I love that. I would salivate with big hits, you know. But if you look at like a Reggie White, a Reggie White, he was the greatest defensive end of all time in National Football League. And his hump, his hump move was that skillful application of winding up one side, unilaterally

taking a 300-pound man and doing this. this, whereas what you're generally more taught is sort of this bilateral thing, right? And they're both of critical importance, but when you have the capacity on the sides, which Marshall is sided. I mean, when are you, you know, just straight on bilateral? I mean, suplex somebody, but it's going to a side. So my development and understanding of movement came from the study of locomotion, which is objective, faster's faster. And I set my sights on that is the principal function with which I want to optimize,

hence 21 days to do it better. But what I found out in the process is that fight is the other side of that coin of flight. And fight is subjective. A beats B. B beats C, C beats A, my master's better than yours, you know, okay, we're going to fundamentally disagree who the best is, but it's the ultimate chess match and it's the ultimate insincerity. Losing a game is a lot less traumatic than losing a fight. All the lights are on you. It's just you and him, here we go. And if you get beat up, that's a difficult pill to swallow than have an 11 guy.

lose and it wasn't a fight. So I think that that understanding that you will have more physical prowess, the more elegant you can beat a supple, big cat like fluid than just the big clunky. And the martial art requires it. And so that's why I have such an affinity for flight and fight and fight. and a long time ago it was who's the fastest man in the world and who's the baddest man in the world heavyweight boxer fastest man in the world before you know you got paid to play with a ball yeah those are those are the original things we give a shit about for a reason for good reason too right yes um i love the fact that you were able to to bring in the martial arts component but i don't know if i'm saying it right feldon kroy is that the guy you spoke about yeah

Felden Christ. Who was a judo expert? Bring in the story, Felden Christ to the podcast because I thought that was phenomenal. And then, of course, you're training with the Tai Chi Master, you know, push at all of that. I think that was really good because it paints a visual for me. I had, you know, same type of thinking.

I brought football mentality to fighting. And I thankfully had early on one of my first great striking coaches, Vince Perez-Mazola was a Jek Kondo expert. It spent, you know, 30 years training with Dan Nassanto at the Nassanto Academy. He actually got to train with Bruce Lee before he passed. And, you know, he understood some of these components, you know, why you train with different, you know, sticks, collie, things like that. Dr. Mark Chang had come out and, you know, and, you know, huge fan of yours,

huge fan of Pavils and really a guy who thinks outside the box, you know, what he was talking about, you know, when Mark was young, his father would always do Tai Chi and he watched him until he was about 10. And finally, you know, he's 10. He's feeling tough. He's like, Dad, why do you do that Tai Chi stuff? It's not a real martial art. He goes, oh, you don't think it's a martial art? And he goes, no, it's not a martial art. You're going to fight somebody like that doing these super slow, stupid moves. You know, he goes, come here and try to hit me. And, you know, his son just comes and tries to hit him and he does one of the Tai Chi moves and sends him through the wall. And I was laughing so hard. He didn't hurt him. But, you know,

the mom had something to say about it. But after that point, Mark was like, holy shit. Like, I have a newfound respect for this. And then, you know, of course, he's become a Tai Chi master himself. But this practice of perfect movement with the breath and a controlled atmosphere where everything is moving, you know, the more, the slower you move. Chek taught me about that. You know, the slower you move in concert with the breath when doing Tai Chi, the faster

the chi will raise. Right? It's not about getting more reps in. And it's about, you know, that timing, getting everything in harmony and just bringing it in slower and slower. Now the cheese starting to run faster and faster and moving through the body. And I really appreciated that analogy. But break all this stuff down. This is awesome.

Yeah. So, yes, slow is smooth and only smooth is truly fast. So you have that. And what I will say about the Taiji is in order for it to be effective, you also need the capacity for hard. So, you know, the Tai Chi master who's only ever done soft is going to get punched in the nose. So you need the hard, right, because it is the polarity. And the real thing is both, right? And like you're saying, you're cultivating the sensitivity so that if a fly lands on here,

the entire body is set into motion. And the slow capacity is the ability to stay relaxed so that you put. can go at speed. And Feldenchrist, as I just is like, hey, I'm on a podcast. Sorry about that, Kyle. I love it. This is good. They're yelling in here. So as I described in a book, I had lower back pain that stemmed from weak feet. I didn't know what I was doing. And I was always hard, hard, hard, right? And that's when I discovered Feldin Christ, who he himself had the hard and the soft. He, because judo and what is more receptive and then hard than judo, right? A really good judo player is going break your neck, not what is, you know, he's going to break it with the floor or a wall. And he had

the capacity to connect to another person's nervous system, okay, and take command of the entire body with that trust because of his capacity to harm you or heal you. And so he would guide someone's nervous system through like, okay, let's find the path in your unique body that feels the best because it is the best, given the idiosyncrasies or whatever, you know, issues you have in your body. And I had just invented the Bosu ball. you know, as a result of the back pain. And then as I was getting the, you know, the bosa ball up and running and started to get a little income,

that's when I engaged in a Felden Christ professional training program that he didn't complete because they didn't need to. I got the essence of what it was. And I got the master's hand. One of his first disciples who was up at, you know, Amherst, Massachusetts, at the very beginning, he was the teacher and he gave me a treatment on the table. and this was change on the table.

Like I got off and I'm like, oh my gosh, you just unlocked the restriction. I didn't even know I had the restriction, but the freedom from it. So that's what queued me into the idea that less can be more, that allows more to be more, because now you have better usage and better force transmission. You're not getting stuck by yourself. And that is what gave me the, the sort of the capacity to say, oh, okay, Tai Chi, okay, there's three internal Chinese martial arts, and the best description I ever had describing them was in relation to a circle.

So you have shin-yi, okay, which is, boom, penetrating the circle. So it's cutting to the center of the circle. The bagua is circling the circles with these sort of eight changing palms and the spirals. And Tai Chi is the center of the circle. All things come to Tai Chi. And Tai Chi yields, neutralizes, lets you go on your merry way, or smashes you into a wall, take you pick, which one you want. Right.

And that's the philosophy. And can it be actualized? Well, who knows? If you have a cell phone in your pocket, you're probably not able to resonate like some ancient true master. But the manipulation of the fundamental objects, which is stick, stones, and ropes, is a requirement, in my opinion,

to reach unarmed capacity, empty-handed combat, which is just the modern contrivance. Because if you showed up back in the day, go back 50,000 years and don't bring up, you know, a stick to the fight, you can get your ass beat. So it's only in the social agreement that we're both going to come into a ring.

We're not going to hit each guy in the balls. We're not going to head, butch you in the nose, not clawing your eyes out. Whereas if it's for real, it's a beer bottle. It's a two by four. It's a stick. It's a knife. It's a gum. Whatever.

For me, it's mace. Non-lethal. It's on me all the time. The situational awareness and confidence is what I'm at. after. So confidence is I don't want a nervous system. I want a confident system. And if I can't control the forces coursing through my body of simple gravity in the ground, what chance do I have to deal with external forces optimally? And so, and I've studied the martial art by studying the principles and then having the very good fortune to touch with the master capacity.

You know, Shanzi and Salo Ribeiro, my first experience is privates with Sallow. You know what I mean? So I'm not like fighting some blue belt with both, you know, just fighting not getting better. I'm feeling the mastery. You know, Tai Chi, William Cici Chen, he took my balance before I even knew my balance was gone. But over across the room in his studio, his two kids. kids are preparing for a full-on-on-contact Sanjiao fight.

So the legitimacy of does it actually work versus just a bunch of pretending and woo-woo, you know, no-touch knockout, I can hypnotize you. And then I can knock you out. But if I'm non-compliant, well, I don't got a chance, right? So that's what I really appreciate about the fighting is, okay, results rule. the underdog who is not as good can still win. And that's that factor where, you know, Hassin Rockman knocks out Lennox Lewis.

Okay, and a rematch, there's retribution. But it's so honest that the better man can even lose and that's what makes it so interesting. It's the infinite complexity of chess or go is the marshal. And Feldin Christ was that, clue in that me, okay, the only person who aspires to look and be like me is an overweight dad, okay? There's not a 14-year-old alive who aspires to look like me. So I need to have technique. Otherwise, I won't be confident in the presence of better men. All right, guys, quick break to tell you

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Yeah, I really appreciate the breakdown of Felden Christ. And another thing that really spoke to me in a way that I thought would translate well in this podcast, because I think a lot of people, when they first get into this, you know, in terms of like balance training, functional movement, and things of that nature. You see people going back and forth online, just fucking yapping one corner, yapping the other. You know, you still need to have, you know,

the ability to move heavy weight. And it's like, all right, maybe if you play football, that kind of stuff. And then on the other side, it's like, all that fancy shit doesn't translate. Well, somewhere in between, you do start to see the rubber hit the road and you actually see results.

And obviously, you know, you've trained some of the best people in the world. Your career as a coach is spoken for itself, right? And I think that that's awesome. And I love that you lay that out. so beautifully in the book. But one of the best breakdowns of why this is important that everyone should be figuring this out,

which is completely counter to what we're taught in muscle and fitness and life growing up in the 80s and 90s, is that we're taught how to build muscle, right? We're taught how to build how to work, a particular exercise gets to be bigger arms, chicks like the big biceps. I know that because of the movies. So that's how I'm going to work, right?

And then you get all these machines and shit that take us further away from our human element. and can build big muscles, but don't necessarily translate to athleticism. Whole books have been written about, you know, like what is functional, what isn't.

And now, you know, you see a lot of people doing fancy acrobatics, but you're not sure how that necessarily translates. But you said this very succinctly, what do you think is incredibly important? Strength over balance equals power. Right?

And I was like, fuck, dude, that's it. Because if you don't, and I thought of this, I, you know, got juice to the guilds,

trying to make it to the NFL. Really just trying to, start at ASU. And I was, I was like, I don't have you seen the movie, but Latimer from the program, right? Not that aggressive with ladies, but definitely, I mean, I was running it. And 268 seemed to be my cap, also eating 10,000, 12,000 calories a day. I loved training. I love getting strong. I had a 405 bench press. I was like, this is fucking rad. This is awesome. But because I was training traditional styles, I wasn't, you know, getting into one leg. I wasn't coiling. I was learning I had to change direction.

I had no balance whatsoever. So it was almost impossible because at 268, I'm plenty big enough to play NFL defensive end. And I knew how to play defensive end. But I couldn't change direction without falling flat on my body or rolling an ankle. Right? So that's a problem if you can't change direction and you have to contain on the outside. So I said, fuck it.

Moving to the three technique, I'll play defensive tackle. I can bulrush anybody. I can rip move through two offensive linemen. Put me there. And I did quite well. even undersized, the three technique. But ultimately, that was my downfall. I had put myself in only one position because I liked balance, because I like coordination.

And when you frame that and you talk about, you know, our ability to access the strength we already have through even traditional exercise like the big three, bench, squat, deadlift, is dependent upon our balance in that we're only as strong as the weakest link in our chain. Right. So something's going to give in sport. or I'm either going to get hurt or miss the tackle if I don't have balance, if I don't have full access to move in a proper way, right? So thinking about that,

it really framed that mathematical equation, framed it in a way for me that made perfect sense. And, you know, I've had the honor of working with one of your students, Connor Milstein for the last year and a half. He's helped me a fuck ton. I'm pain free, broken neck, knee problem, everything. I have a list of injuries like yourself from football and fighting

and motorcycle accidents, all the fucking things, right? It's the first time I've been pain free since I was young, probably since my 20s. And so, you know, completely pain free in my standing existence. If I'm deadlifting, like none of it brings up any issues now thanks to working through, you know, integrating the body, right? Foundation, rotation, weaponization. So big, big credit there for you and Connor and I love the stuff that you teach. But that very simple equation, when I thought about that, I was like, God, that's, that's,

That's everything. And, you know, my son still had, he, I'm watching him in Jiu-Jitsu since he was little, right? He did a little bit of no-gee when he was young, but then really got into it at seven in the ghee when we got here to Austin and training with, um, Paulo Brando actually got his black belt on the same day as Salo Hibero at the same gym from Hoyler. Oh, wow. Awesome. And Shanzhi lives here.

Yeah. You know, I came to Paul. He just had a baby. He just had a baby. That's so cool. Shout up to Sean. He texted me. last night with a picture of his baby on his chest.

And I said, soak that up, baby. Because it don't last that long. It doesn't. It doesn't. That's amazing. I'll reach out to him. But yeah, man, thinking about that, I remember watching my son saying, like, oh, he's so much better at takedown defense than I was.

So much better. And I'm like, how is that? But as you talk about, you know, your feet being in their foot prisons, especially in a special kind of foot prison is a rollerblade, right? Yeah. For six years. What that does to the toes. how ungrounding that is for you and how you're really losing not just contact with

yours but you're in like a ski boot for six years right so you know that's that's a fast forwarding of a negative effect that most people don't can't notice the extremes of obviously you're you know you speak to the way your mind works differently than most people and seeing connections and things of that nature and I think it's painfully obvious it's awesome but many people have that same experience is just not as in their face because they're wearing heels on occasion or they have to wear work boots five days a week and they never go barefoot anywhere right and so that foot problem still happens and I realized like my son you know thinking about it when I was watching I had no idea why he had better balance but balance is our verse right it is something we're born with and it's just

slowly siphoned away from us due to the shoes we wear and then and our repeated you know stressors sitting like this, you know, in front of a TV, whatever, eating at the table, that kind of stuff. And so between the equation you give and then, you know, the idea of the feet, like start to unpack this stuff for us because I think it is something that really is one of the beautiful threads that goes throughout the entirety of the book is how this is something that's innate to us. It's been lost through a number of factors, but it's completely regainable. Yeah, completely regainable. I mean, I found it from. let me just say a few things so first the equation the math so everybody's clear on sort of what

i mean by strength over balance equals power so in a in an equation the top number bigger makes the equal number the power bigger and under what's called the denominator of the number on the bottom of the fraction the smaller that is the bigger exponentially the power is And so how I define it is strength. You want it to be as big as possible for a one, for one relationship in more power. But the balance is where you can get the exponential where that judo person instantly swips them and bang me before you knew it, you had an expression of power that was way stronger than what a top capacity strength could be.

So you want to bring that balance down as close to the zero inefficient. is possible so that you have maximum access to power at all times. All right? Now, a human being comes into this world very, very plastic, meaning you learn how to walk and you learn how to talk by the nurture the others around you. So if you were brought up around people who walk on all fours and bark and sniff and eat at their mouth, that's what a human being would do. and there's precedent for that.

You know, human beings have been raised in the backyard with the dogs. And, you know, 12 years old, you're a dog. So, but it is the birthright of any creature on God's green earth to move with efficiency. And I think God set it up and said, eat or be eaten, go. And what we figured out was we figured out how to potentiate the ultimate economy by going vertical, which is very challenging and a lot more effort to attain the position, right? But the reward is I can chase it down for seven hours and outrun it and tired it down.

So I get to eat it despite the fact that I don't have claws, sharp teeth or much physical prowess compared to the other predators or even the prey, right? So we are reliant upon tools and the tools are the fundamental teachers. I don't think inact in antiquity, just because the scarcity of calories required it, I think efficiency was factored in. Otherwise, that seed didn't procreate, protect, provide, okay? If you can't go get the bacon and bring it home, well, then guess what? Your seed is done.

Okay. How unfortunate. But how unfortunate, because we don't need weakness on this planet. we need sustainable strength. And when it comes to athletic training, stronger is better. Anyone who's going to say stronger isn't better, just go look at yourself in the mirror and understand that you are so fundamentally confused that you're at danger and a hazard to society.

Okay. Stronger is better, provided that it's not wrong strong. Okay. So the conventional training, just picking up heavy shit. I mean, when I was in high school, we just, you know, we squatted, we deadlifted, we benched, and then it was your own natural athleticism that funneled whatever I did to make myself bigger, stronger, faster that wasn't bridged through instruction. And the instruction was actually incorrect.

Keep your core brace. Don't let your head move. 90-90 cheek-to-cheek. That is fundamentally not athletic. It's pathetic. But the good athletes did it correctly anyway because the athletic intelligence and the external objective,

they weren't thinking like, oh, I need to put my head here. No, I got to go catch the fucking guy and I'm going to just go catch the guy. The body did correct things, right? So we were bailed out from the ignorance. And what happened was, if I bench press and I squat and I deadlift and I do pull downs and I just, you know,

sagittalitis is my training. If I'm athletic, I'm still throwing, right? I'm still running. I'm still swinging that require me to move athletically. And as long as you don't have the science guys in the 2006-7 range, where Nat is telling you intellectually to think about it wrong. And weaponizing this science and oh, you need to brace your core and it's science. Yay. I mean, that shit, that is so insidiously harmful because now you got people inside, not focused on the external objective, which is the key to moving well.

thinking is slow. You're sitting here, oh, I've got to move my hand here or there. No, you rehearse the movements. You do it. You're not thinking in sports. This is at the speed of life. This is, if you're on offense, I have 0.16 second disadvantage fundamentally. I mean, if you're in Marshall and you're in boxing range, you have to respect the faint.

But as soon as you make contact and it's grappling, well, you know instantaneously because you feel it. you don't have to see it, right? And that's why most fights end up on the ground. Because you get punched and you realize, oh, shit, I don't grab this guy. I move to get punched again. I'm going to tackle them and put them on the ground, right? So now we're experiencing this sort of renaissance because I know. And I'm as competitive as they get.

You give me a chance to win, okay? I'm competitive. I knew I'd never play football past college. could go to France and make 500 bucks a week and, you know, coach and play. Yeah, okay, great. There's no future in it. But I took it as seriously. And I have a very large ego. I want to be the best. I'll admit it because I'm honest. We're going to arm wrestle. We're going to do pull-ups. We're going to throw the ball. We're going to see who can spit further. I want to know who the better man is. Okay. So I better figure out what the fuck I'm good at that I can win. And it turns out that

this perfect storm of inventing the Bosu ball, okay, to get the mailbox money to fix my pain and now realize there's a lane for me here. Because everybody else engaged in the process of this study, biomechanics, has the burden of teaching it now where you don't have the leeway to go off track, have nerve pain in your left foot because you figured out something that wasn't right that you don't teach because you can't come in scratching your head to the college weight room and say, oh, guys, I got a theory. And if it works, we're all going to win. But if it doesn't work, I don't have a job, right? So I had the leeway and the resources to explore these far out. I went to Chinese medical school.

Again, I only went for a year because I'm not going to be putting needles in people, but I needed to get this source understanding. and what you find out is a tomato, is a tomato, as a pomadourou, meaning eastern philosophy, that is true, goes to the center, Western philosophy, okay, mechanistic, let's break it down, the atomic particles, okay, parts, parts, parts, versus yin and yang. If you're on the true path, both come to the center and they corroborate each other, okay? And God gave me an intellect, and he gave me, you know, I can sleep for four hours, I'm fine. I burn very hot. I'm super, super competitive. And if I believe that, okay, I can, I'm playing hearts and I can shoot the moon, well, fuck it. Give me every heart. Give me the queen of

spades. Give me the jacket, diamonds. I'll take them all. It's the risky play, but it's the big winner. And so I recognize that, that because the focus in our industry, fitness is so much on the hard, hard, hard, hard, hard, hard. And those who are doing the soft, soft, soft, soft, don't counterbalance it was hard. If I can understand polarity and optimize both ends of the spectrum, I get the maximum bandwidth, and I play football. I'm not afraid to run into a wall. Death or injury was superior to messing up and losing. It was a 100% commitment. And I played in the 80s in high school where my objective was to break your helmet with my helmet. A concussion was not in. injury. It was called your bell got rung. Get back in there. Right. So you got dinged up.

Just a different era. Just a different era. And for me, I would always off gas on Saturday night with, you know, with alcohol. And what I liked about it is I was very type A and I was nervous all the time in high school because I was thinking like I have to win. I have to win, but I'm not the best. So I, but I still have to win. And it created this great conflict internally. my armpits would sweat. I was nervous all the time. And so unleashing the beast and removing all inhibition on a Saturday night was like I would headbut anyone and I don't care.

I will not quit. I will not quit. Right. I had that tenacity and put the drive to be the best. And so I was, you know, captain of the football team in high school. Nobody worked harder, you know, like that kind of thing. and you need to counterbalance the both because after college, rather than go work on Wall Street and get rich,

which was the plan, that's the fallback plan. If I can't do football, I know I can't do football, well, get good grades, graduate and honors, do an internship down on Wall Street. I could walk right into that world. But then when it came time for that,

I was like, holy shit, my life is going to be two and a half kids in a big mansion in Connecticut. We're going to summer in the Hampton, shoot me now. And I had a friend who did the movie Clerks. He was in it. And so I looked at, okay, I'm going to be an actor. And so I dove into that and being rejected, you know, 2,000 times if you count the commercial auditions, it fundamentally changed me so that I could stand in front of other people and root myself through relaxation and confidence.

Because standing on a stage, why you want, you know, the podium or the dais is because it's a fourth wall. It gives you balance. If you don't have that, you start to get like a twitchy, like, okay, I'm nervous because it's rising. The tension is rising. And that is the wrong direction for tension to go. You need to send it down. Boom. And that's why weak feet is so insidious is because when your foot is weak, you are

apprehensive every single time you go to put your weight on something. And for anybody listening, step on a Lego in the dark, you're just going to sit up to the ceiling with the ultimate empathetic if you had to deal with the defense of tackle. This is the worst response I could have because now I'm uprooted. If I'm in a fight and I do that, well, you can basically have your will. And even if I do hit you, there's no authority because I'm no longer hitting you with the floor. And my theory is that the bones are strong. They're strong when you're sick. They're strong when you're healthy. Learn how to transmit all the force via the bones so that now the muscles and the tendons, the ligaments, the fascia, that's fluid to let it flow. So the skeletal

integrity and I discovered sort of oh I can arrange my hand like triangulating the structure so the force is now going through it longitudinally where I can go as hard as I want and it doesn't get stuck and I can do this and you know anytime you talk Marshall the fucking peanut gallery is going to come out from everywhere oh no you'll break your hand that way oh no you don't you know what I mean like Like, it is such a toxic subject. Anytime, you know, anytime you start talking about Marshall, everybody's, you know, not everybody, but, you know, the peanut gallery is going to chime in telling you how stupid it is. All right. So whatever.

To those people, grow up, all right? Think for yourself. Don't be weak. Structure dictates function. And when you structurally arrange the bone structure, I don't even know. need tension because it's going through the bones. And I want that understanding that there are no straight lines in the body, flexion, extension. That is a contrivance that is not true because it's all these spiraling movements. So we break movement down to you have internal

torsion and you have external torsion and combinations of the torsion. The triplainer model is very useful as a construct, but it is counterproductive if, oh, this is a transverse exercise. Well, guess what, buddy? You're in the other two planes too, right? So don't tell me that's a transverse exercise because you're still in the frontal and the sagittal plane, right? And sorry, I'm coming off as a little bit hot. I love it. I'm actually a more passionate. Generous person. It's just, I like logic. I like logic. I insist upon it. And I see such tremendous illogic in terms of the state of the world, which is evil running things. And then ego for the good guys, right? You don't go into the fitness industry if you're some evil guy. You go in somewhere where you can make money, right? Fitness is good

guys with egos getting trapped in that crab, you know, bucket of crabs and then bad behavior, making it toxic. And it's like, what's happening now because I figured out walking? I mean, it's seriously, just like you, the incredulous, like, oh, God, what do I get to be the best at? Understanding walking. Really? Like, really? And then step back and be like, wait a minute, That applies to everyone. There's billions of people. If we can teach people to transport and comport themselves with perfect balance, just as good as a kangaroo, just as good as whatever, any other animal, well, now I have the ability to manage force with God's grace and confident. He doesn't want you doing that. God comes down, walks in your shoes, and you're all in pain, blocky and clunky. If I were got to be pissed off and disappointed at you, right? But I would understand it. It's not your fault because you're a creature of your environment.

So what do we do? We change the environment. We use strong men, not strong men who are puffing up, strong men who can win the fight. Okay, that's a strong man. And it takes cunning to win a fight. Nobody's just going to purely overpower and win everything. time. All right, y'all, quick break to tell you about my brand new community, The Kingdom Within. It is launched on school right now. If you join, you get a free one-week trial. You'll have access to any

videos we've recorded in the past. We call them days at school. So first day of school, second day of school, all this stuff is available. Like I said, we just launched. The community is small, which is absolutely great because if you join now, you will have all your questions answered. I mean, there's just no competition. So the community is. about body, it's about mind, it's about connection, it's about family, nature, psychedelics, everything is on the table. And right now, I'm just walking people through some of the most important things I think, in the key takeaways from the books that I've read and the people I've befriended and learned under guys like Paul Check, Mark Sisson, and so many others.

And I've broken it down into very easy to use practical steps on how to optimize the body. And with that, lay the foundations for a successful life, for better productivity, for better emotional intelligence with your kids, with your wife, with your girlfriend, for better connection, which is really what it's all about. And then how do I connect to myself? What does that internal relationship look like? How do I connect to nature? I get it. Not all you're going to have a farm. Most people listening to this don't. That's fine. How do I reconnect to nature? How do I build out my eco field in my own little backyard? If I got an apartment, what are the plants that I bring in? How do I respect nature and make communion with it? And then how do I do that with God? There are so many

past that lead us up the mountain. And I've spent, you know, the last 20 years of my life, really researching, digesting, and breaking this down. So I am so excited to be able to share this with you guys. I love the back and forth. It's something I just don't get on the podcast. I don't get to hear from you guys and get to go back and forth with you and learn about what's going on in your lives. I do in the community on school. It's called The Kingdom Within. And you can go click on it in the show notes and it'll take you right to the about page. And like I said, we cover all the bases. So it's really hard to kind of say, Like, this is my niche.

This is what we're doing. Optimization, all this other. Just join, join us for one of the school days and see what it's like. I guarantee you it will change your life for the better. All right, guys, back to the podcast. Yeah, love that. Love that. Beautifully stated.

Back to the equation, I really love the fact that you, you know, not only outline you, your personal history and win these inventions and the why behind the inventions, but you reintegrate, you know, kind of the point behind them. And so, you know, the Bosu ball obviously was something that made balance training much safer, right? It made it more approachable from many people. Because the lower brain is afraid of losing balance. The lower brain is afraid of you dying right now. And that's why you can't hold your breath and kill yourself.

Because the lower brain will say, uh-uh, going to knock out the stupid guy and keep the, you know, keep the creature alive. So the nervous system will do this if it senses the imbalance. And if you can put yourself in a situation where you would have to do that if you perceived a threat. But when you don't perceive a threat, you can invest in loss and learn how to win, right? If I refuse to lose, imagine going to jiu-jitsu and refusing to lose. First day you have a broken elbow. Yep.

Okay. And that's what makes it such an amazing art to train is because, okay, bop, bap, striking is a lot harder to, you know, get proficient at because the consequences of going full out isn't dot, right? No, there's no doubt. Anyway, that's a balance of stable, unstable. I fell off a stability ball. That's why I invented it to stabilize the unstable so that we can get underneath ourselves, figure out how to fix balance from low down in the body without having to do all this stuff up here.

And that again is another foundation for true confidence. True confidence is having both ends of the spectrum. That's true confidence. Because if you only have one in a spectrum, well, you are not confident when the other one is required to win the situation. Absolutely. Yeah, I love that you have the BOSU for the balance. And then obviously, you know, we talked on our first podcast about, you know, you bringing rope flow to the scene after watching Buddy Lee saying, let's take out, you know, the million jumps and what I actually do here. Well, actually, what this is doing is this is allowing me to integrate these beautiful rotational movements that open up the spine and get things to integrate into the body.

And so those first two, I think, are paramount, right? And I love working with the rope. I love working with the bosu. So my son, who's 11, who started out with more balance than me, you know, is not, you know, in the traps. I got his toes nice and wide. I'm opening up his feet and things like that. So I'm keeping that open. But those two things have been even just in the addition of those two items, I've already seen a performance increase on the football field.

Like night and day, just from his ability to, you know, do basic slow squats on the bowsoo ball, find the shaky parts, move through that, breathe. through that, don't rush through it, allow the body to integrate until there's no shaking, no stickiness, and then we get right on the rope when we start moving through. And that's a one-two combo that in and of itself is an absolute fucking game changer. It's been really cool to be able to participate that personally, but also to give that gift to my son. I'd love for you to talk about the pro polls. You know, my son and I, I don't have cable TV.

Plant medicine kind of took me out of mainstream television, and I don't fault it for that. But, you know, one issue is that I really don't watch football anymore. And I love the game with my son playing. We finally started watching it. And I was like, you know what? There's tons of all the grates are still on YouTube. Let's pull up some stuff. One of the first guys I showed him was Dion Sanders.

Yeah, yeah. I was like, this guy was fucking unreal. I showed him Bo Jackson. Like, there's another guy that played two sports. That was unreal. Look at Dion. And we're watching him. He's like, that's my favorite player.

I was like, prime time was the man. He was so much fun to watch. And so when you bring in Dion into the book, I was like, this is awesome, right? Like, this is so cool that you're talking about how he did things differently and how that led to the pro poles. I have a pair. I haven't started working with them yet, but I'd love for you to break down, you know, the mechanics of Dion, why you've got the pro polls. Obviously, you go to Kenya, they're already well established as the best runners in the world,

and they become even better working with this technology. Yes. So first, just a brief thing. on the rope. The rope is the rosetta stone of integrated human movement. Jumping a rope is syncopated, hands down, feet up. Very useful for changing your stance and your power hand right here. But moving your mass from here to there, rope flow is the rotation and it's the beat. Everything down, everything up. And before I invented the propulsors, I had already had 10 million reps of rope under my belt. And if you think about the ropes, what is it? It's down up, down up, down up, down up,

especially like the dragon roll, right? So if I know how to pulse both arms down and I don't have restriction in the body, well then I get a connective tissue recoil that jolts me effortlessly off the ground. And May 1st, 2010, I had been doing all this weird Chinese acupuncture stuff. My goal was I want to move my hand as fast as I can with the least amount of effort. And if I flick the fingers out like this and then I roll them and fold them up like that, I can do that faster than any other way and I'm not getting tired. I'm a very lazy guy willing to work extremely hard to have an own lazy. I like that. So my hand and I was doing these like, you know, winding whip, you know, landing literally like on the hair of my chinny chin,

getting range and stuff, and then the triangles when I land, I'm skinny, but I'm bony, and I will bite if necessary. So I don't want to lose. I don't want to lose. So anyway, my hand was very familiar with this sort of folding and triangulating from all those reps and then having the Chinese medical, you know, meridian understanding. It all makes sense from that perspective. May 1st, 2010, Shane Mosley clocks Mayweather in round two.

I jump off the sofa like this. I think I had Diego Sanchez and Rob Garcia watching it with me. Yeah, we were watching it together in my living room. I go, bap, like that. And when they left at the night, I went like that. And I felt like, holy shit. And Tai Chi translates to supreme ultimate fist. Holy shit, the harder I squeeze, the more fluid I am with this.

I start shadowboxing on the door jam. Like, you know, okay, this. This is going to hit hard. And then I punched down and I jolt myself up. And that's when Dion Sanders appeared, you know, crystal clear in my mind's eye. This is how he does it. Oh my gosh. This is how he does it.

Now, to teach other people who are so conditioned mentally and emotionally that the arm coming forward comes up and it doesn't jolt down. but if you watch the good athletes, what you can see is they actually do pulse both down and anyone jogging is going to bounce their hands. It's more efficient to bounce on connective tissue than it does to do this. Okay. So it's just the conceptualization of it is wrong because people aren't underneath it. There wasn't a lot of slow motion video way back. They used to think a horse's feet, you know, and a big debate on,

whether all four hooves are off the ground or not, of course they're off the ground. Because the guy took pictures and you can prove it, right? So I know what I know in large part because I can corroborate on video that, yes, in fact, they are doing what I am doing and I can feel why it works and I can see that they're doing it too. So how do you teach that to someone? I go to swap meat a lot. It's like a treasure hunt. You never know what you're going to find.

And some of my inventions, the propulsor came from a swap. me event. I'm walking around, right? And I see this table and there's four hand weights that weigh two pounds each and they're blue and they're shaped like a bosu ball. Oh! How much are these? Oh, they're 50 cents each. Okay, here's two dollars. I will take these two now and I will return to pick up the other two and I start jolting around and swap me with two pounds solid weights. and you want to talk about boom, boom, the next day I was so sore. And you can't go fast with that two pound weight because the inertia from the momentum takes a lot of energy to slow down and a lot of energy to bounce back up and very traumatic on the tissues.

It's too much the harder you go. I had already invented the RMT Club. What makes the RMT Club unique is that there is a partial. fill of this steel shot that can move internally, which basically zeroes out the effects of inertia. So when I go down faster than gravity, the beads in here go to the top because the inertia of the beads is they want to be there, object and rest wants to stay at rest. So when the cavity or the container comes, these things go to the top.

And now I get to stop it against no resistance because the weight is here. And it's going to take a millisecond to get to here. But I'm already stopped. And now it's your knee in a doctor at the office where you go, bink, bink. And it's the effortless connective tissue recoil, the fascial jolt. And now suddenly I had something that I could teach people with. And I can train it because I'm getting a boom. Sorry, if the microphone, pick that up loud.

But now I'm getting this jolt that's going to strengthen the tissues, too. So I'm getting the technique and I'm getting the tissues. And if you're running uphill, you will run faster carrying these, using them properly, than you will without them. You'll get up the incline faster and you will experience less effort because you've invested in down wisely with the timing of the force delivery that gives you more systemic return than the effort you put in because gravity is on your side. I don't want to punch up and fight gravity against it. I'm going to punch here and I want to fight with gravity.

Invest in that down with a perfect delivery. and boom, I get off the ground easy. And so that is basically what the pulsars are. And then when I wrote the patent for this right here, these are handheld devices. And because at rest, the pulsars are down here, I have to move it faster than gravity to overcome the inertia to create the effect of the jolt.

But in the patent, I also wrote a spring, a container and a weight that floats on the spring that jolts it up because now I have the potential that is already there so it works at the speed of gravity and that is what is in the weights that are in what's called my propulse power vest and this is zero learning curve I don't I've got to tell you a damn thing. You just put it on. Every time you load, you get this. And the physics behind it and biomechanics, the physiology, is that when you stop,

and that stop is immediately followed by this micro-delay other hit, I reduce the peak impact force coming, the peak impact force coming back into me. and I shift that wave curve, if we're going to graph it from a force plate, I'm shifting it forward by lopping off the top and getting a lower peak impact force while still managing more force in the same amount of time. And so now, and this is my hypothesis based on that physics and physiology, is that removing the peak impact force or lowering, let's put it that way, puts a training stimulus on the tendons that allows us to engage

and bring into that equation more cross-sectional tissue within the tendons, Achilles being the big one. There is an effect that Keith Barr, B-A-A-A-R, is essentially proven with these long-hold isometrics that he uses to train and rehabilitate tendons, is that a peak impact, or a large force through the tendon will create an effect called stress shielding. The strongest parts of the tendon that can meet the demands at a moment will engage and shield the weaker tissue that your lower brain is afraid will get damaged if it had to incur the demands necessary to meet the moment. And so if I lower that peak, Now there is less stress shielding.

Tissue that otherwise would be offline suddenly springs into action. The nervous system says, holy shit, we're a better army with these extra troops. I felt pretty confident there and you're developing it. And we're getting a post activation potentiation for anyone listening. That means you do something that creates this activation, that makes the next thing you do better. In fly 10 sprints where there's no burden to accelerate, you build up your speed perfect,

you run through the timing gates, you do a body weight baseline, establish how fast you can run, whatever, two, three reps, full rest. Now you put on the power vest and run reps, just one or two, probably two, and then you take it off and you run faster than the baseline on the first.

and I'm talking every athlete thus far. This is not some strict science study. This is going to fucking practice and fucking running faster right now, okay? Which is far more important to me than 19 soccer players, you know, did this or that for six weeks, and now we know.

You see what I'm saying? Yeah. So science can be weaponized because it's the ultimate Trump card, right? Pardon a pun. You can make people do this and do this and do this and do this if you just say it's science right? Yep.

Just the science. All the science. The science is science. We don't need to get into that. We'll keep it. We'll keep it exercise. But you and I both know as men who care about our offspring and the future of human kind, that that's really the motivating factor for what I do.

because I have no direct influence over any of the bullshit. All I can do is control myself and teach people how to harness that inner confidence and integrity by simply moving with balance. And that is why the subtitle of the book is your foundation for winning at life. If I have more joy, more confidence, and less pain, maybe I can be a more effective person and enjoy the human experience in a manner that makes me want to pass it on. I find that the more prowess a Marshall guy has, the kinder and cooler he is. When he was 18, he was hot, he wanted to get in fights, he figured it out, he's now 28,

he's a complete badass, he'll tap out 99.9.9. He doesn't use it because he knows. that's been my experience is that the better you are in terms of handling yourself physically the cooler you are as a human being. Yeah, no argument there. I was just talking to my son about that too.

You know, the difference between the black belt and the white belt is in the personality. You know, one guy's tapped thousands of times. He's expressed himself. He's challenged himself. He's humbled himself and he also has a degree of mastery. And that self mastery leads into everything, not just from what you're doing, but into his being, right?

It's a different person because of that trajectory. That's why jujitsu is such a society, healthy activity. Because when I grew up, you knew your neighbors, you didn't lock the front door. Now you avert your gaze from your neighbor. You don't want to know. The doorbell rings. Are you expecting someone? Did you order dinner?

The doorbell rang. The doorbell rang. People are so much fear now. now, and maybe that fear is justifiable, but jiu-jitsu class has a way of bringing you together in a conflict situation that is governed by the cooperative agreement that I'm going to tap and you're in a studio that's a good studio and some guy comes in, he's like, oh, hey, I'm new, I'm on a spar. All right. Put him with that guy. Teach him that's not the attitude that we roll in here and hope he comes back well adjusted or go grow up somewhere else.

I love that. Well, I know we can keep going. When does your book come out? Where can people find you? And I think it's weckmethad.com for pro polls, RMT clubs, all the good stuff. The only thing you don't sell is rope flow, but obviously, you know, you've spoken to that. You've lifted that industry entirely so yeah well we do sell ropes but i promote everybody else's rope because a rope is a rope and i think you know if you like it you probably want more than one and if you need to and you're short on you know cash you go pick up a rope anywhere right most ropes will do so on social i am the david weck um we have youtube that we're going to start really building and You know, we have a bunch of stuff, but, you know, it's really not a presence.

And so I'm now focused on not so much the exploration and discovery of what's next, even though that continues. I'm focused on taking what we got and putting it in front of people with a very clear, you know, executable, okay, here, here's what it is, here's how you use it. Here's what it does. Go. Like that's now the mission in my life is to capitalize on getting stuff out there to an audience that doesn't know. And no cost, no charge for rope flow, head over foot, any of that stuff, right?

You want to pay for deeper education. That's an option. You want proprietary products to do things that nothing else does. Okay, that's how I make my money. But really, if all anyone ever got from me is rope flow and there was no financial transaction, I am happy as a clam because that is why I wrote the book. It's going to be on Amazon and it's going to launch on October 17th. And if you read the book, you'll know that 1.17, my birthday.

Longitude on the globe, San Diego, David and Glythe in the Bible. So it just lined up that I had so many like spelling mistakes and repeated paragraphs that I didn't realize did it put a big delay on the publication, which worked out perfectly. So it's 10, 17, 117 will be the launch. And what I'm going to do is I'm going to go out to the community to rope flow. Anyone who feels like they've benefited, just bang a drum and tell everybody that it's going to be, you know, $199. Buy it on day one between these hours so I can get best seller status on. Amazon and have them push it. And if you don't like reading, there'll be an audible one. And if you don't like that, just skip the chapter 12 and learn how to three weeks, 21 days, a fucking big cat,

cultivate it mindfully. You set it and forget it. And now you're a stronger human being who can pull with guys like you and me and the rest of them, the good guys, to make God proud. That's right. Make God very happy with his creation that we warn a bunch of weaklings who failed in the mission to make this place a better place for the kids.

I love it, brother. And I'm deeply in gratitude for all the work that you've done. I'm so stoked that you sent me the copy of the book because it really is awesome. It just breaks down so much of this, the why behind it?

And what a fucking rad life you've had. You know, upsdowns and in-betweenes and everything's laid out. I love a fucking good story. You know, like I really do. So that was a fantastic book, super easy to read. I'm stoked. I'm pumped to get the ProPulse vest going.

I'm going to get my pulsers going today right after we jump off here with a little bit of rope flow. So thank you for all the work that you've done in the world. And I'm stoked to be a part of it and get to hang with you later. Big shout out to Connor for bringing us together. Like one of the things that really means everything to me, is when a light heavyweight UFC fighter who is Division I on the cusp of NFL respects me.

Right? Like that is such a bona fide that feeds my soul because that's all I want to do is help and credibility and integrity is everything to me. And I know the cover of this book doesn't look like it. Oh, he's a little sissy.

Oh. But I assure you that I'm, I'm a good guy to have in the foxhole because dying standing is better than living on your knees. Every step stronger. Every step stronger. Thank you so much, brother. My absolute pleasure, brother.