Kyle Kingsbury Podcast - #472 George Wiseman on Brown's Gas and the future of healing

Episode Date: October 13, 2026

In this episode we dive into George's life as an inventor, the power of hydrogen, what makes Brown's Gas unique, the science he's conducting with Prof Gerald Pollack author of (The 4th Phase of Water and former guest), and much more!   For more on the science and where to grab an Aqua Cure check out https://www.aquacure.life/   Brain Supreme is the best microdosing company on Earth- the Genius and the Athlete are my favorite products but all of them work incredibly well for a variety of purposes. Get 15% off everything in the store by using code "KKP" at checkout.  https://brainsupreme.co/collections/all I just launched my new community The Kingdom Within on Skool- sign up now for a free 7 day trial. This community is for people who are dedicated to learning and making positive changes in their lives. Read here for more... https://www.skool.com/the-kingdom-within-5541/about  

Welcome to today's podcast. We have George Wiseman on the podcast for the first time. George is an inventor and an engineer and somebody who's been really clued into pretty fascinating technologies that are kind of outside the realm of what most of the mainstream would deem possible. He's done a lot of research on Brown's gas, which we break down in here. But we talk free energy tech. We talk, you know, the water car, all sorts of stuff on this podcast, the ridiculousness of our fake medical system. And the reason we don't hear about stuff like this, stateside, whereas in other countries that are less controlled, they are doing things like running decades of research on hydrogen inhalation and browns gas and hydrogen water

and so much more. So I really felt like George coming on this podcast was a gift from God in many ways because I've wanted to have access to technologies that actually work and understand. And then to get a 20-year backlog of detailed science on the efficacy of this stuff was really cool. It was one part, fuck yeah, this exists. And the other part, unfrikin believable that this shit's withheld from us here. Like it drives me freaking crazy that this stuff exists and we don't get to hear about it. So today we get to hear about it.

And I've had the opportunity to use one of George's machines, which is inhalation of hydrogen, oxygen, and plasma, or as he calls it, electrified water. And it's nothing short of amazing. You know, and there's tons of research here. We're going to link to a lot of the stuff in the show notes if you want to look at the science yourself that's there. Share this with friends. George, you know, I really tease out quite a few of the testimonials and the things that he's healed in and himself. and in clients, he has a beautiful and heart-wrenching story, you know, from a family perspective of how he was affected, how things, you know, disease states affected his loved ones that couldn't be

fixed with our Western medicine model. And so he's on a mission now to get as many people tuned in to what he's working on as possible. And I'm just so grateful. I got to have him on the podcast. I'm grateful for the work that he's doing in the world. And I think you guys need to know this dude. George Wiseman is the real deal. right guys, I'll link to everything in the show notes as far as, you know, where you can find the science and his products at aquacure.com. Check this one out. Share it far and wide. Support our sponsors, Brain Supreme. And if you're feeling froggy, jump into the kingdom within my digital community on school. We'll link to all that in the show notes as well. All right, without further ado, my brother, George. George, welcome to the podcast. It's very good to be here. Well, I'm stoked to have Jan. You reached out to me, and I was pretty impressed reading about

And I just want to preface, you know, this podcast with that I have geeked out on conspiracy, but I've also geeked out on like very real things, like in particular with technology, you know, the fact that I don't buy that slaves built the pyramids. But even, you know, in more recent times, we hear about a hydrogen car being built that could run on human urine, that you would get, you know, could go all the way across the country on a tank of water. And that guy famously runs out to a payphone from a diner where he's meeting the minute. in black and he goes, they poison me. It's his last word. He says to his brother on a pay phone and collapses in the parking lot. So I premise that, not necessarily not to paint the world in a

certain light, but just to say that I think there's likely technologies that can cure things that have been suppressed heavily for at least the last hundred years, I would say, and maybe a little bit longer, but since the Flexner Report, which was sponsored by the Rockefellers, which really changed medicine from homeopathy and natural cures and sound healing and frequency and things of that nature to just allopathic Western medicine what we have today. The birth of big pharma. So I'm very excited to have you on. This podcast is definitely going to be in a different category of its own from what I'm

used to doing, but I'm super excited to dive in this territory with you. George, tell us about yourself, you know, tell us what was life like growing up? What were your interests and what brought you? that's where you're at now. I was born in Missoula, Montana, and to a fellow who was going to Forestry College at the time, and my dad then worked for the BLM and took a trip to Canada with his friend, moose hunting,

and discovered up in the middle of British Columbia that he could buy land for $2,000 per quarter section, which 160 acres. So essentially on it Hold on, when was this? What was this? That's crazy. That was in the mid-60s, I suppose, something like that.

Okay. So in any case, on a government pay, he bought five ranches, put them together into one big ranch in the middle of BC. And that's essentially where I grew up. And it was a crazy existence. It's like we lived in the 1800s. We were so far out, we didn't even have radio. There was no electricity. There was no plumbing.

It was a hundred foot rush out to the outhouse, even in the blowing snow, which up in Canada, it was definitely blowing snow. So anyway, I grew up. And out there, there was no mechanics. There's no doctors. There's no veterinarians. There's no, anything, professions that people are used to. You did things yourself, or they didn't get. get done. And life was very close to, you know, survival. Neighbors helped neighbors. We didn't,

we left keys and vehicles. We didn't lock doors. If somebody needed something, we provided it the best we could because the next day it might be us needing something. And it just, that's the kind of environment that kind of incubated my innate abilities, which it turns out later when I went to mechanics college and such, I have a mechanical IQ that's literally off the scale. So I considered myself lazy when I was growing up on the ranch because I didn't like to fix anything more than once. So I'd figure out why it broke and then fix it in a way it wouldn't break again.

So by the time I'd left the ranch, I had a 1966 Ford pickup truck that was getting 36 miles to the gallon. And I didn't know that pickup trucks weren't supposed to get 36. miles to the gallon. I just did what I thought was right. And it's interesting you had the reference to Stanley Meyer there who had the water car. I've done quite a bit of research into water as fuel as well. I think I know how I know a way of it being done. I've got like 80 different inventors, water as fuel inventors in my files and stuff as I've been doing that kind of research. But in any case, I traveled around the United States and Canada for a while, working at various jobs. I got my blasting

certification in an open pit mine. Everywhere I went, they didn't want to see me go because I always improved whatever I was doing. It was nice that way. So in any case, in 1984, I decided to be a self-employed inventor. And in 1986, I discovered that they were changing vehicles from carbureated vehicles to fuel-injected vehicles. And in the beginning back then, I was selling fuel-savers because I knew how to double the mileage of virtually any vehicle.

And I helped over 200,000 people save better fuel mileage. So that kind of started my reputation and people trusted me, and that was good. It was all mail order back in those days. It was way before the Internet. So Brown's gas happened to be one of the fuel-saving techniques

that would work on fuel-injected vehicles. So I started to concentrate on that more, and I did a lot of research. thousands of experiments on electrolyzers and better designs for them. And one particular... Can I pause you? Go ahead. Sorry, I don't want to derail you.

You mentioned Brown's gas, and this is going to be a large part of our conversation here. But like you said, did you... I've never even heard of Brown's gas. So, like, what was the thing that just made you go, you know, I need to look into Brown's gas here. I think it's going to help with fuel efficiency and things like that. Okay, so Brown's gas is mostly hydrogen. And the reason is called Browns gas is because... a fellow by name of Ewell Brown, an Australian inventor,

spent the last 30 years of his life commercializing it. It was actually originally invented, as they called it, single-ducted gas by William Rhodes, in Phoenix, Arizona. So in the early 60s, Ewell-Brown started experimenting with this gas, this single-ducted gas, and took it to China.

And over in Asia, they're still way ahead of us, way ahead of us with the Brown's gas technology. The things that they're doing over there are just amazing. And we may get into some of that. In any case, it's named Brown's gas, even though it's mostly hydrogen, where you're splitting water into hydrogen and oxygen. But in addition to that, because of the specific electrolyzer design, we get a third gas that I call electrically expanded water.

And what that is is water that is soaked up electrons until it's become a gaseous form of water that is not water vapor or steam. So when I'm inhaling, like I am right now, the Browns gas, because I inhale it every opportunity that I get. I love what is done to my body. So when I'm inhaling and I'm inhaling three gases, mostly hydrogen and then some oxygen and this electrically expanded water. Those electrons are bioavailable.

So they give a body energy directly, bypassing all the regular energy generation systems in the body. So like people that are sick, when they've usually used up their energy reserves or their energy and or their energy generation systems have become compromised. So hydrogen not only gives the nutrition that you need, but also the energy necessary for the body to do the job. So does that answer for Brown's gas just for a minute?

Yeah, no, that's just perfect. Thank you. Keep going. That was perfect. Okay. So I was selling fuel savers. And Brown's gas, which is essentially injecting hydrogen. and with the intake air would increase the fuel economy of most gasoline vehicles by about 25%.

And then combined with a couple of my other fuel-saving technologies, 100% increase in fuel economy is quite achievable. So I started building larger electrolyzers that could replace acetylene in torches. So people that were cutting steel, brazing, soldering, all those kind of things could use Brown's gas instead of acetyling, direct replacement. But the Browns gas did all the same work better at only 2% of the cost. So I was selling hundreds of those particular larger electrolyzers as well. Now, right about that time, a chiropractor by the name of Lloyd Jacob in Spokane, Washington, asked me if Brown's gas could be used because he was working with

oxygen therapies and you knew Brown's gas had oxygen in it. So he said, could Brown's gas be therapeutic. And I said, I don't know. Let's give it a try. And it turned out it was very therapeutic. And he came back out of retirement. He was retired. And he came back out and for several years until he fell down some stairs and broke his neck. It was sad. But in any case, he helped many, many patients to the point where he had built his own machine, his own Browns Gas machine from the book that I sell. I don't patent. I haven't patented any of my innovations. I do it myself, and then I teach people how to do it, usually with a book or a manual. So he had hired a local person to build a Brown's gas electrolyzer so he could treat his patients. And he called

me back about a year later saying, in an emergency saying, my patients won't come in unless they can get a Brown's gas treatment at the same time as the chiropractic treatment. And his machine had broken down. So he immediately bought one of our commercial units, and he, for another, was at least three years after that. I say three years I know for sure because every year he would bring the machine in and we would clean all the sludge out of it. And in this in this sludge after three cleanings, there was 19 pounds of sludge and the original plates, the electrodes weighed 19 pounds coincidentally and in the end they still weighed 19 pounds. But the sludge was all the minerals, all the constituents of stainless steel, which was what the electrodes were.

So we got 19 pounds of essentially stainless steel out of something we only ever put distilled water into. So there's something called transmutation happening there. So in any case, while Lloyd Jacob was using his electrolyzer, his niece was going to Agriculture College. And she asked if she could just bubble Brown's gas in water and feed it to plants as part of a project that they were doing in agriculture for her course. and the radishes that she fed them to grew four times faster than the well water without the bubble browns gas. So again, I spread out this information to all my subscribers of mail order and customers and such. And then testimonials started to come in from people who were bubbling the gas in water, but not just to feed it to plants, they started to use it on themselves.

And one guy in 1996 put Brown's gas on a cotton ball in a plastic cap and taped it to his forehead, you know, really high tech, right? And rewet the cotton ball several times a day. Totally, I have no idea why he considered doing this. But in three weeks' time, the skin cancer was 100% gone, nothing but baby smooth skin left. So quite frankly, I didn't believe him. because I came at this from a combustion point of view. I didn't think a combustible gas had any health benefits that a person could think of.

So in any case, I did tell people, I sent out a newsletter saying, you know, this is a potential application of the gas. And a lot more testimonials started coming in as people were using it. So by 2005, my customers convinced me to bubble the gas in water and drink it myself. So from 2005 to 2007, I didn't get sick. I used to get sick three times of winter, cold flu, whatever the case may be. I could just count on it. No more sickness. I haven't been sick like that since 2005.

I've occasionally had a runny nose for a day or something, but that's it. Never gotten sick again, even during the latest worldwide idiocy. Yes. Which, by the way, interestingly enough, the Browns gas was the number one treatment in China for that particular pandemic. And they were back at work in two months, not two years. The reason being is that nobody over in America was learning this. It was actually found in the Scandinavian countries at first and taken care of in China. It was a blood virus, not a respiratory virus.

So the virus would kick the iron heem, ferritin, whatever you want to call it, out of the red blood cell into the plasma. And the red blood cell wouldn't grab onto oxygen. So the blood levels of oxygen would go down. And American doctors would put people on ventilators and 80, 90 percent of them would die because the blood couldn't accept the oxygen. Whereas with the Brown's gas, since it had the electrically expanded water with the extra electrons, when those electrons hit the red blood cells, they gave it a charge. charge. And that charge of that little bit of iron that was left was enough to grab onto oxygen, and the blood oxygen level started to come back up within five minutes. And three days later,

people be walking out of the hospital, never having seen a ventilator. So just as an interesting little side note, we're not told the truth. And I just, I know you know this, and I know your listeners know this. Oh my goodness. So many examples. So in any case, in 2007, I then recommended to my customers because I try things for myself first and I told them how to bubble it in the water and we also started selling a small tabletop electrolyzer that we call the ER 50. So people didn't have to spend thousands of dollars on an electrolyzer. So we sold thousands of those and people started asking me, can I enhance? the gas? Can we inhale the gas? Now, you see me inhaling the gas, so obviously I was wrong,

but as I told people, no, I don't think it's a wise idea to inhale a potentially combustible gas. And oxygen, hydrogen explosions are nothing to fool around with. If you've seen outbreak with Dustin Hoffman, the bomb they were using to wipe out cities, it's just short of nuclear in its explosive capability, tactical nuclear. So the in any case, this is the kind of point of view I was looking at. But in December of 2015, a customer sent me a video of a Taiwanese hydrogen bar where they were going in and buying Brown's gas treatment. Like I said, like I said, they're way ahead of us over there. Like we buy a cup of coffee.

And I realized my idiocy, because I knew these things, there's something called the lower combustibility limit. So as long as the hydrogen in the air is less than 4.7% it's not combustible. So, and it's since been proven with thousands of studies that 2% hydrogen in the air is the optimal therapeutic benefit. Even going to 3% gives no additional benefit. So the, and that's what I'm inhaling now is 2% browns, 2% hydrogen in the browns gas that I'm inhaling. So, but I couldn't do anything about. it at that time. It's December of 2015 because at that point I was the 24-7 caretaker of my late wife who for several years her organs had been failing her. She had lost her eyesight. She had lost her

hair. She couldn't even roll over in bed without assistance by this time. I would carry her to the toilet. She never had to wear diapers. I was there constantly, but I couldn't work. I couldn't do anything when I was 24-7 caretaker. So we, and in order to try to get her healthy, we tried all different kinds of things, buying various machines and, and doing various protocols. Some things would stave off some things. We discovered how to cure type 2 diabetes, which actually isn't diabetes. It's called insulin resistance.

So in any case, we, And it was a difficult time in our life. And by the time she died in March of 2016, we were over $300,000 in debt. We'd mortgaged our home and maxed out credit cards and everything. So it was a very difficult time. But as, and I also understand why spouses follow each other into the grave because my reason for living, my life just disappeared with her. Everything was gone. It was...

So as I was sitting on the couch, because I never slept in our marriage bed again, I was... And I looked over my shoulder at the ER 50 I had there for bubbling water. I thought, you know what? I'm going to try inhaling the gas. And I set up a video camera in front of myself, because as an inventor, it's wise to document everything. And in case anything happened,

there'd be evidence of my idiocy. So that video is still available on my YouTube channel, if anyone wants to see what I looked like in March of 2016. And nothing bad happened. In fact, some weird stuff started to happen in that, for example, I had thick white skin on my elbows, knees, and feet, which I just thought was calluses, but it turned out to be a kind of psoriasis. And anyway, that stuff started to peel off like a snake shedding its skin, like large portions of my skin just peeling off. And that was disconcerting, but it didn't hurt, and it was baby smooth skin underneath. So I thought, okay, I can deal with that. But the thing that actually saved my life was that my libido came back.

Within about three weeks of the inhalation, I had the libido of about a 17-year-old. And I can tell you that when you have a libido like that, you care if you live or die. So it wasn't too long, and I started dating again. and eventually met the woman I am now married to, who incidentally told me, George, no one is going to want that, no woman, no woman, is going to want that science experiment in her home because the ER 50 was just a collection of PVC pipes and stuff.

And so I went back out to my workshop and developed what is now known as the aquacier. And that met her aesthetic conditions, and that was good. it was so in any case after a month because i try things on myself first i went i sent out a newsletter again and in this case we're 2016 i'm we're on the internet and uh and told everybody how they could safely modify their er 50 to inhale the gas and then testimonials really started to come in like like miraculous things i i've heard since then it's been 10 years since then and i uh it is i some of the things that happened, it's just like incredible. Like a woman who had stage four cancer, breast cancer,

that had metastasized through her abdomen to her spine, refused to do the radical surgery that would have left her paralyzed, refused to do any chemo, no radiation. And the doctor, the oncologist told her, and I just shake my head because I've actually seen this sort of thing personally, told her, you might as well go to the top of this 10-story building and jump off because you have less than two weeks to live. So this woman, bravest woman I know of, absolutely incredible. Her name is Jay Lee.

She lives in Australia. She was a California girl married an Australian boy. In any case, she hadn't married yet. She's married since. But in any case, she went totally natural. She changed her shampoos, her detergents, how she washed her dishes, her clothes, changed her clothes into all natural fibers. She went 100% natural, organic in her life. And the only thing that she did, in addition to that, was the aquacare, where she was inhaling at least eight hours a day, which is recommended for mitigating cancer and Parkinson's and Alzheimer's and virtually all the autoimmune diseases and stuff.

In any case, about three months later, she rented an aquacure at first from one of our affiliates, and then in three months she bought one. And a year later, she has what she's on her Instagram, she calls it ugly crying, where she's crying and waving papers that tell her that she's 100% cancer-free. Wow. Yeah. So we're just, it's incredible. It's just incredible.

So about three months after I told my customers, that they could inhale the gas and how to do it, a woman got back to me saying that she had lupus symptoms, and in three weeks' time, her lupus symptoms were gone. And that particular testimonial almost killed me on the spot. Like, I literally dropped to the carpet. I couldn't even breathe for a while, and then I just started crying and sobbing,

because my late wife had died of a severe form of lupus. And at that instant, I realized I had Brown's gas in my shop since 1980, Six. Been told by hundreds of people, the therapeutic benefits, I never thought to have her inhale the gas. Like, even if she had started inhaling the gas in December of 2015, when I'd gotten that video from a customer, I just, it was, I call that my Jonah moment. That was the moment where I stopped running from what seems to be my destiny, what seems to be my mission. I'd been coughed up on the beach by the whale, and I realized to honor my late wife's memory

and to help as many people as possible not go through that pain and suffering and financial devastation that we did. And since then, we've helped many tens of thousands of people not, like I say, the testimonials that come in are just absolutely amazing. And it all comes down to a lack of hydrogen. People are hydrogen deficient. Most people are hydrogen-deficient. Most people are hydrogen deficient. If you have a scar anywhere on your body, you're hydrogen deficient. Since I've been inhaling the gas, all the scars on my body have disappeared. Because what happened? Yeah. And you don't get that from just hydrogen. There's several things that the Browns gas with the electrically expanded water does better than just pure hydrogen. Pure hydrogen is great, and you need it.

Our bodies are 62% hydrogen by volume, 24% oxygen, 12% carbon, 1% nitrogen, and 1% everything else. So when they're talking about the various minerals and vitamins and stuff, they're all talking about the 1%, not the 62%. Okay? So it's our most important macronutrient, and our body knows how to stay alive if it has this hydrogen. But if it doesn't have the hydrogen,

it'll start shutting down extraneous systems that aren't immediately life-threatening. Like the regeneration system and your stem cells will shut down first, and so you'll age faster. And if you still don't have enough hydrogen, it'll start shutting down your immune systems so you'll get sick easier, but that's not immediately life-threatening.

And then if you still don't have enough hydrogen, your organs will start to fail, and you'll die. So lots of things happen to me over the years. Most of it in the first year. First of all, I was looking like I was getting younger by a year every month until I reached a certain look, and then I pretty much haven't aged since then.

I looked now like I did 20 years ago, looking at various pictures. But that was just the, just getting rid of crow's feet and wrinkles and all those kind of things as my skin plumped up and became healthier. But all the scars on my body disappeared in reverse order to when I got them. I found that to be very interesting. So the ones I got in very early childhood were the last to go.

So obviously the body has a memory of how things are supposed to be. That's, I guess, how, and interestingly enough, this particular finger here is kind of cauliflowered because I hit it with a five-pound sledgehammer accidentally, obviously. I was straddling a beam and pounding a nail into the beam with my hand supporting myself and the hammer hit off the side of the nail and then slammed down onto my finger. So, yeah, that was quite painful. And I had a scar across the front of my finger. Now, you could still see the indentation where the scar was, but it's just skin.

So the finger is still healing in that same cauliflower shape that it became after it healed there. So something in the way a body is, the electric body, however it is, knows how it's supposed to be. In any case, when you get enough hydrogen and the electrically expanded water or energy, let's simply say it that way, because the body needs three things to heal. It needs nutrition, needs energy, and it needs intelligence. It has the intelligence, and with the hydrogen, you're getting one of your macronutrients, and then with the energy, it helps things put in place. So hydrogen is like a brick.

It does nothing by itself. It's inert. So just think of a mason that has a brick. the mason has intelligence to move that brick to where it needs to be, and as long as you have the energy necessary to do it. So these are the things that I've been discovering. There's lots more, but I should let you talk a little. You have a question?

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And now back to the podcast. This is fantastic. Yeah. I mean, there was a, I moved out here to Austin from Vegas briefly, but I was born and raised in the Silicon Valley. So, you know, fought professionally and just really was a geek on anything that moved the needle from a performance standpoint. And then that shifted more into longevity, healing the brain, obviously, I got punched a lot. But I remember speaking at PaleoFX in 2017, and there was a lot of, you know, great people coming in. It was kind of like the beginning of the biohacking movement, which I think is, you know, as with anything, it's bastardized and ridiculous now.

And you've got people trying to live to 150 that are avoiding sunshine. and table that to the side. But hydrogen was something that was being talked about as a big deal. You had these little tablets where it was, I think, bound to magnesium. If you took too much hydrogen water because of the magnesium, you'd have to go run to the restroom. Then there was this machine company that was going around. And they were screwing people, myself included,

because they'd say, hey, you know, we'll give you this on loan. You've got to go through this third party to buy the machine for $10,000. and then, but we'll send you a check each month to pay it. And so if you weren't like singing there's praises and doing like three posts on your social media and things like that, those checks would stop showing up. And people, they were speaking at the event. So like everyone started talking, Ben Greenfield and I were sponsored by these guys. You know, I had them on the hook for 10 for freaking 10 grand plus the interest.

And I just told the, you know, I told the, the, God, who was it, the, the creditor? Like, I'm not giving you a penny. sorry, he can take my credit score all you want, look into this, and we went back and forth, and finally they just took it off for me. But this hydrogen scientist came up, and he's like, please, please, please, please do not let this scar what hydrogen actually is. Like hydrogen is a miracle, and the science behind it is really incredible. Don't let these guys that have come in here and kind of, you know, snake oil cells

and then work their way in. Don't let that destroy, you know, what you're diving into here. I also love, you mentioned, you know, the electric body. body electric. We talked Jack Cruz before the podcast. For all of Jack's, what's the way to put it? For all of his arrogance and unfriendliness, he does know a lot. And he has turned me on to people like John Ott who wrote Health and Light. Very important book on Light. The Body Electric, you know, famously, he's really been a huge proponent of that. Also Gerald H. Pollock in the fourth phase of water. The importance of water are electromagnetic bodies with an electromagnetic earth. All of these things. start to flow together. So when you talk about extra electrons, and I think like basic,

you have to remind people, because I'm teaching my son about mitochondria and things like that, the Krebs cycle we haven't done to dive into, but when you think about energy, energy's needed for anything. You need to heal something. You want to recover from a workout. You want to sustain output during a podcast or studying or presenting all of that systemic energy, right? And it boils down to mitochondria function, but it also boils down to the Krebs cycle. And ultimately, you know, electrons, how are we using, utilizing these things? So I think this is like, this is awesome because it speaks to the nerd in me, but also, you know, the fitness guy who wants just give me more energy. I want more energy. We're all looking for that, right?

Caffeine isn't necessarily giving you that, but there are things that will give you real energy, right? So I've been a big fan of creatine from a neutropic standpoint, as well as from a, you know, blast athletically. And I just love different pathways that get us there. So this is, this is exciting. I want to know more about, you know, the electrical charge of it that makes brown gas different from pure hydrogen. But first I wanted to ask you, you know, you talked about hydrogen as a macronutrient, as this thing that we, you know, ultimately it's our most abundant resource. How did our ancestors get enough hydrogen? Do you feel like the hydrogen's still here, but because of the, all the crap we have to deal with from the stuff they spray on the food to in the sky, that that's impairing our ability to take it in? that's a really yeah that's a really really good question um first of all i'm going to toss up a theory

that it's entirely entirely conjecture based on a lot of things that i've done uh in the bible that talks something about the firmament and uh after and then i because when hydrogen is released like right now whenever i exhale i'm exhaling any excess hydrogen immediately floats up in the air and it goes to i call it goes to god it just floats up and disappears. I'm thinking that maybe in the early times, there was actually an amount of hydrogen in the air because a hydrogen doesn't go through ice very well. And if this firmament was like a dome of ice, then perhaps the environment that we were incubated in had more hydrogen in it than we now have when the firmament disappeared during the 40 days and 40 nights of flooding, maybe that

ice melted and came down on Noah and the Ark and stuff. So it, and then we had rainbows. See, we never had rainbows before that. That's the moisture in the air, you know, and the light. So the light, anyway, I just thought I'd toss that out there just for fun. Getting back to answering your actual question, where do we get our hydrogen from now? Because we can't inhale it from the air. There's very, very little hydrogen in the air.

So it comes from our food. We eat hydrocarbons. So essentially like when I was working as a mechanic and increasing the fuel efficiency of vehicles, they were burning hydrocarbons. So breaking that carbon hydrogen bond takes quite a lot of energy. And the Browns gas, when it was introduced into the airstream going into the internal combustion engine, would act like a catalyst to lower the endothermic energy, the energy necessary to break that bond. Therefore, it increased the amount of exothermic energy, the heat released, when the molecules recombined into water and carbon dioxide left over some heat,

there was more heat left over because you didn't have to recycle some of that heat back into breaking apart the hydrocarbon bonds. So in any cases, a similar thing happens in our body. We chew our food, we masticated, we threw in some enzymes, it drops into an acid bath, it travels into the lower intestine with some bile from the liver, and the microorganisms start to work on it. And then just before it exits from our body in the large intestine, the colon, they're supposed to be specialized bacteria that finally break the carbons off the hydrogens.

So the hydrogen can go into your bloodstream. And that's normally how we should be getting our hydrogen. And our early ancestors were getting it that way because, first of all, they didn't die at 30 years old. The reason they say the expected life, the life expectancy was low because the children would die a lot and therefore lower the life expectancy. But the actual people lived quite long. And if you look at biblical times, they say 900 years, some of these people. So again, that firmament idea, like maybe there was hydrogen in the air. They've also shown that when they have a terrarium with rodents and they don't have.

little canylus on the rodent snows as they just have the actual air have 2% hydrogen in it. They were living a minimum of 30% longer, some of them 50%. And one particular rat study, the rats weren't dying. It was well over 50% life extension, healthful life extension, but they ran out of funding so they euthanized the rats. Oh, God, that would have been so great to keep that going. Yeah. Somebody's got to run that back.

If that's the fountain of use, like... That's pretty important. Like stop what everything else were you doing? You know, like what else would you want to study? That's awesome. In fact, just keep that Fountain of Youth and Philosopher's Stone in mind as we continue, we're talking about Brown's guest because it appears there's quite a bit of similarities there. One thing I just wanted to say here, the point you just made cannot be overstated

because if it's supposed to take place in our large intestine and colon and, you know, antibiotics have saved lives. I had a staff infection before. I still have my limbs and full use of my body, thanks to antibiotics. I'm not a guy who just poo-poo is on all of Western medicine and big pharma because of the bastardization of medicine. My shoulder works because of shoulder surgery. My right labor, I have it reattached. It works perfectly.

I can throw baseball to my son. I can punch. I can do handstands. I can do it all because of that surgery. Antibiotics have saved my life at least one time when I had the staff. And so there's an importance of that, but also there's no doubt that we've over-prescribed this since the 1980s. You know, anytime I got sick, they'd throw me antibiotics. So, I mean, talking 10, 12 times a year sometimes, I'd be on a full-course antibiotics.

If you don't buy organic and regenerative beef from animals that are, you know, kept outside all day long on pastures, then they're giving antibiotics when they go eat their feedlot because that food is not good for them and it starts to make them sick. so they have to give antibiotics to keep them from getting really sick and to keep them from just, you know, exploding everywhere out the rear end. So all that said, we are consuming antibiotics, even if you don't take them, if you're eating conventionally grown inorganic food,

you're consuming it all the time. And we're doing a number of other things that impair our microbiome. And so if it's the microbiome's job to give us that hydrogen, that explains it all in a nutshell. That's one of the most compromised areas of our monoboom. in life right now. You got it in one. That's exactly where I was going. And it isn't, and just like you said, or it implied, it isn't just the antibiotics. That's a major factor because it kills the good bacteria along with the bad bacteria. There's also the glycate, artificial sweetener,

pesticides, herbicides, incredible amount of things that we're inhaling and ingesting that are compromising our microbiome. And therefore, we're eating food, but we're not getting the nutrition that we need from it, mainly the hydrogen in this particular case. And I'll point out the Japanese who are obsessed with health and longevity actually did a study a few years ago where they compared everything they could about families that lived over 100 years old and families that were dying at 50 or 60 years, the general families. And they found one common denominator that was different between the two.

long-lived families had excess hydrogen coming out their breath. The short-lived families did not. So that meant that the, and your blood can only absorb just so much hydrogen. That's a very important point, about 1.6 parts per million. And anything excess gets exhaled, just like exhaling excess carbon dioxide. So you can't get too much. Like when I'm inhaling right now at 2%, my blood is pretty much saturated, so it only takes about 1% to continue the keeping my blood saturated and the other 1% comes out.

But that combines with the 2% that are coming in with the cannula. So I'm actually exhaling a 3% mixture. That's important because a lot of the knockoffs out there, like you said, I remember that particular. I don't remember the exact name of that company that was fraudulent people. But I do remember the circumstance that happened back then. But there's a huge number of people that are doing knockoff, and they don't have my 40 years of electrolyzer design experience and all the combustion experience I have and stuff. And so they're making machines that are potentially dangerous by telling people more is better. More is not better in this case. More is dangerous. Remember where I was advising people not to inhale a potentially combustible gas?

That's the danger that these people are doing. So let's say that, I'll give an actual example. Okay, there was a fellow in Mexico that listened to one of these knockoffs, saying more is better, and they're selling machines that are putting out what I call, well, full 100%. My aquacures are made so that they can adjust the gas production to optimize for any particular sized person. So a five-pound infant to a 300-pound person,

you adjust the gas volume so that the amount you're inhaling, when inhaled with the air that you're inhaling is only 2% of the inhaled air. So we make it safe. We have triple redundancy safety on everything that we do with our aquacure machines. And we have a one-year satisfaction guarantee as well. So for those people.

My point is, when people ingest, okay, this guy should have been ingesting a 2% mixture, but he went to a 4% mixture inhaling because the guy that he was listening to, actually it was a woman, come to think of it, said 100% is okay. And it is. 100% is okay, healthful-wise.

You can't have too much. Only a certain amount does the most, but you'll just exhale any excess because your body just won't absorb it. The problem is he was going from a 2% to a 4% mixture, only 1% to keep his body blood saturated. So he was exhaling 3%, added to the 4% that was coming in. It was a 7% mixture.

He was exhaling. And he leaned over a candle. And his exhaled, breath ignited, and it backfired up into his head. And gave him a bloody nose. Luckily, that was all. He did go to the hospital for fear of a concussion, but he was okay. The point is safety. this is an actual person,

then instead of inhaling for his body weight would have been 30% from an aquacure, he kicked it up to 60% from an aquacier. If he'd kicked it up to 100% and leaned over that candle, he would not have been saying anything. Because the more hydrogen in the air, the more forceful the explosion.

He would definitely have problems internally. So I just point out for people's safety. Look, when you're choosing your hydrogen, safety is it. Now, I just have the aquacure. I don't bother selling the tablets or the bottles, the little hydrogen sports bottles or any of those other kinds of things. I concentrate because I'm only one person. I put all my attention on what I consider to be the most therapeutic application in the world. And that is our aquacure. Nobody does it better. And I say that as a worldwide expert.

So just be safe. Whatever you're choosing out there, and I'd like to see hydrogen, at least hydrogen, in every home, because we all have had this problem with antibiotics, and our microbiomes have been compromised. Now, a little aside from that, what I would have liked to see the Japanese do is take fecal samples from the long-lived people and inject them into the coal. of the short-lived families and see what happens. Right.

Yeah. To get those bacteria, we're established. Travis Christofferson, I'm blanking on his books. He's written a couple of them. Tripping over the truth was the first one. It was in large part on ketogenic diets and, you know, Otto Warburg's understanding of cancer as metabolic disease. And then his more recent one actually dives into a lot of the science on fecal transplants

and things of that nature and how efficacious it is in other places, but how limited it is here in the States. It's only, I think, like, you have to have one very specific gut issue in order to have that prescribed. Otherwise, it's not allowed. And, you know, there's literally thousands of things that would help with, including things like weight loss, right? Like, just something very simple like that, right?

The whole COVID thing was hilarious to me because it was like you couldn't be more obvious. You're censoring doctors who are, taught in school to look for what do we already have available and what combinations of these things that we have available can be safe and effective. I do air quotes on that and work. So we don't have to wait for this miracle cure to show up. And they were working. And these guys were getting lambasted and have their names and reputations drugs through the mud. Some of them I've had in this chair right behind me, Dr. Peter McCola, arguably the most academically accredited

medical doctor alive today, you know, has more peer-reviewed citations and people that use his knowledge than any other doctor. And he was, he was, you know, he was on the team. He says it himself. He's like, I fully believed in vaccines. I fully believed it, but I also knew that other things could work. And, you know, when he got drugs for the mud, it was a real eye-opener. And now he's, you know, tuned in in a way different frequency. But I bring these things up because, like, this is part and parcel. I like the idea that you have. you know, where it's like you've almost open sourced it in a way. Like you have your things, people can buy it and build their own, that kind of stuff.

I think that's protective in a certain way, if you know what I mean. And I want to see technology like this go out. Explain to us, you know, hydrogen, like, again, like hydrogen had so much hype and it is backed by many people. Many of my favorite, some of the people that I find smartest in the areas of longevity and health and wellness, swear by it. And they have a daily routine with it. Talk about why, you know, these electrons and browns gas make it, you know, just a better option. Yes, and it's not just for health.

It's for optimizing and so-called biohacking as well, which you're familiar with. Like Dr. Tyler LeBaron, he's not an MD doctor, but he's, in any case, he's a real stud. He does some amazing things, and he's inhaling the hydrogen all the time kind of thing. And we have a chiropractor that runs marathons, and he beats his own time. He gets faster every marathon he runs when he's inhaling the brown's gas and stuff. So we, I'm sorry, I got off track. I just repeat your question. Just explain the difference between pure hydrogen and what browns gas offers

because I think this is an important detail. Right. And you're absolutely right. It's hard to measure the electrically expanded water. We measure it with a spectrombic. and you can see that even when you have a totally dry gas, you still have H2O in there. And electrically expanded water, you can consider it to be H2O negative. So because it has extra electrons, it's negatively charged.

It's a gaseous or plasma form of water, technically called negatively charged cold plasma form of water. I call it electrically expanded water. Yep. I just gave them a finger to hold up. I just got a 700-page book here. called The New Force. It's all on, I mean, this is thick and meaty, and it's big too.

It's not just 700 pages, it's giant. But this is all on plasma. And there's another book that I'm listening to right now on Audible called A New Science of Heaven by Robert Temple, also all on plasma. So like when you mention that word, there's like a little ping goes off inside of the importance of this technology.

So back in the early 90s, when I was experimenting with, all different kinds of electrolyzer designs. I discovered, and I obviously went for the most efficient. I didn't know why it was the most efficient, but I developed a particular design that was 130% efficient. Now, obviously, you can't have over 100% efficiency. So I came up with various theories when I wrote the Brown's Guest Book 1,

which turned out to be incorrect. By the time I wrote Brown's Gas Book 2, I'd started to home in, and just after that, I figured out actually what was happening. So we had these three gases. You have the hydrogen coming off the cathode. You have the oxygen coming off the anode. And right in the middle, because these electrolyzers had no membrane in the middle. Very important point.

No membrane in the middle. When you have a membrane in the middle, this effect does not happen. Because an electron bridge forms between the cathode and anode. And as the electrons travel across that bridge, some of those electrons get stuffed into water, starts soaking up those electrons. So a third gas comes right out of the middle of the fluid itself. We built transparent electrolyzers so we could actually see this. And on my website, I have pictures of that.

So you can see the hydrogen coming off the cathode, the oxygen coming off the anode, and a third bunch of gas coming right out of the middle of the fluid. And it does seem to be somewhat frequency sensitive as well, because at a certain frequency, I actually had two lines. of gas coming up out of the middle of the fluid. So in any case, the point is we have those three gases and the Faraday equations are intact because it actually was only close to 100% efficiency, but because of this third gas it was coming out, that was the extra volume of gas that seemed like it was 130% efficiency.

But I didn't know at the time what it was, and I gradually figured this out about the electrically expanded water, and those electrons are giving the browns gas effects that just straight hydrogen doesn't have. For example, I've never heard of anybody on hydrogen having all the scars disappear from their body, just as an example. And the browns gas helps the wounds heal about 30% faster than normal. So the, but one of the main things, as we're trying to discover, is ORP. So we take distilled water, which has no minerals in it,

and if you bubble the brown gas in it, the ORP oxygen reduction potential, which the ORP meters are actually measuring electrons in their potential difference, goes way negative. Like I recently had a guy come back and say he had a negative 700 ORP. And this is in distilled water, which theoretically distilled water would never do that. So this is some of the ways that we're measuring,

but one of the ways that happened during the pandemic time, actually, just before the pandemic, I was speaking at a water conference in Bad Soden Germany, and Professor Pollock was in the front row, and during the question and answer period, he said, George, I know when you have a hammer, everything looks like a nail. He actually said that.

But what does Brown's gas do to EZ jail? Now, he calls it EZ water or exclusion zone water. It's very, you've had, had him on. So your audience is probably familiar with Gaze Water. All right, y'all, quick break to tell you about my brand new community, The Kingdom Within. It is launched on school right now. If you join, you get a free one-week trial. You'll have access to any videos we've recorded in the past. We call them days at school. So first day of school, second day of school, all this stuff is available. Like I said, we just launched. The community is small, which is absolutely great, because if you join now,

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A quick recap. Okay. So when water, H2O means a hydrophilic. Hydrophelic means water-loving, hydrophilic surface. It forms a gel that he called exclusion zone gel because he was experimenting with microspheres. And he noticed there was a place alongside the Nafion that there was no microspheres. There was a layer of this gel, which he had later discovered was H3.02 negative. Okay, so it's not water, but it's made from water and it's negatively charged.

And this is very, very important because a little bit later, he learned, actually, I'll get to to that in just a minute. This solves three medical mysteries. Number one, our heart does not produce enough pressure to push blood through all the thousands of miles of capillaries in our body. It just simply does not. Anybody who looks at one or two PSI and thinks that it can go through all of that at the rate that it does is just imagining things that aren't true. Number two, the red blood cells are twice the size of a capillary, so why don't they just plug it up, plug it up like a cork, plugging a bottle. Number three, fluids always flow to the path of least resistance.

So why do we get even blood flow, like to the tip of my pointy head, to the tips of my fingers, the tips of my toes, throughout all our organs, why do we get even blood flow through all of that? All of these three mysteries are solved with the easy gel. And I call it easy gel. And Professor Pollock is one of my friends. We've discussed this. It actually is a gel. It's not the fourth phase of water. It's not water because it's H302 negative. The fourth phase of water is actually the electrically expanded water I have, which is H2O negative, because it's still water and it's a plasma, which is the fourth phase of matter. So in any case, easy gel. Professor Pollock should be getting the Nobel Peace Prize for this because it changes everything about what is known about how medical science works. So we get back to the point where inside our

bodies, we are all hydrophelic. Everything in there is pretty much hydrophilic. So everything in there gets a gel layer on it. So all the red blood cells have a gel. All the inside of the capillaries all have a gel. And that gel is not only slippery because it's a gel, but it's also negatively charged and like charges repel. So that's why the red blood cell can form down into kind of like a sausage shape and slide pretty much friction-free through the capillary. So that solves that mystery. The second thing, discovered was that when you have a tube, the size of a capillary, which has this gel on the inside of it, and this is the most important thing, probably that I'll say today, it starts flowing fluid spontaneously without a pump. Our capillaries actually do the pumping, not the heart.

So that's why the capillaries take the blood out to the very far points. We get even blood flow everywhere. It's also why the heart only has to produce a bias pressure, a pressure just strong enough to get the, because the tube doesn't know which way to flow. It'll just whatever the bias is. So the heart puts one pressure on it, so it goes from the arteries to the veins,

and therefore we have our pump happening. Now, why does that affect with the Browns gas? Getting back to Professor Pollack's question, during the pandemic time, because I was in October of 2019, and then the pandemic happened before we got very far with the University of Washington, we discovered that if we put hydrogen in water, the easy gel really doesn't change. If you put oxygen in the water, the easy gel really doesn't change. But if you put Brown's gas in the water, the minimum the easy gel expanded was 300%. three times.

And this easy gel is what plumps up all the cells in your body. It's what makes everything work. It's why every water-based life form on the planet, we're talking reptiles, fish, and plants, plants of all kinds. That's why 150-foot-high tree can suck water from its roots and get all the way out to the leaves. Because a little bit of evaporation from the leaves gives the bias necessary for the fluid flow to go.

Because trees don't have any part, right? But every water-based lifeworm on the planet, it needs this particular effect where the capillaries do the pumping. And the browns gas helps that effect. The browns gas also, since it gives the, in addition to the hydrogen, it gives those electrons, it stops oxidative cascade, it stops cytokine storms, it fixes all radiation and oxidative damage in the body,

so the body can essentially heal. And if you're using oxidative therapies, which are very effective for certain things, I really like CDS, MMS, all those kind of things, chlorine dioxide, essentially, where President Trump said to drink bleach. He was telling the truth. This is something that actually works.

Now, obviously, you don't plug down. Yeah, I've microdosed the chlorine to see how that goes. And I mean, within hours, you know, just wiped away any feelings of I feel like I'm getting run down or I'm getting sick, just gone, you know, within a day. So when you do the oxidative therapies, you want to separate them from the hydrogen therapy because if you combine them, they just form water and you don't get the advantage of either one. So if you're doing oxidative therapies, do those first and then do the hydrogen after to come in and clean up the mess and have things heal. So this is akin to like from a workout perspective, you don't want to take an antioxidant like high-dose vitamin C before you train. You don't want to take an anti-inflammatory before you train because you need the oxidative damage and the inflammation to create a response where that leaves you now more stronger, more hold than when you started. That makes sense to kind of space this.

If you, have you worked with a lot of people in disease states and things like that, but from a longevity and dare I hate to use it, but biohacking perspective, you know, you know, have you worked with people in that regard and what is required then from a spacing standpoint? Because even something as awesome as ice baths, you know, which Jack Cruz is a big fan of, he doesn't know his ass from his elbow on lifting weights or how to move the body. So he's no help there. But, you know, I had a Dr. Thomas something. He's a professor of Arizona State, which I went to school at. And he was the big proponent of pre-cooling. So you do the ice bath before you lift weights. It doesn't impair the training effect. There's a a boost in testosterone, boost the mitochondrial function,

so you can kind of have your cake and eat it too. But I was always told, like, do not jump in the ice bath right after a heavy lift or a hard workout because you'll negate the benefits. Is that true with Browns gas, I assume? You could do the Browns gas any time. I recommend both. Like, if you inhale before you do your exercise,

it seems to help get rid of the lactic acid. So this thing where no pain, no gain, you end up in a situation where you can exercise even harder and not have the residual acid problem thing. Also, inflammation, as you know, is important to start the healing process or start building muscle or that sort of thing. But then you want to get rid of it after. You want to continue the process of healing, but get rid of the extra pain. The Brown's gas does that as well.

And we've discovered that even if you're not exercising at all, of course, I definitely recommend exercise. bodies are meant to move, just like an automobile. If you just park it, it's going to go bad. So I say that from a mechanics perspective, because I was a mechanic for a long time before I got into this. So in any case, you want to be able to do the Browns gas about an hour or two after the oxidative therapy, whatever you do. Give a chance for the oxidative therapy to do its thing and then come in with the

Brown's gas to clean everything up, get rid of the inflammation. Like, for example, I now have no arthritis. Obviously, it was inflamed joints and stuff like that. I have zero pain. I have full strength. And when you inhale hydrogen, you've probably heard this before. You get some benefits of exercise without exercising. It's one of those interesting side effects.

Like my muscles hardened even more when I started inhaling the Browns gas. I could do twice as many pickups, pushups, and things like that. Yeah, it was quite phenomenal. And, of course, if you keep it up, then you can continue getting even stronger and faster. And it increases the mental clarity as well. We have athletes like hockey player, professional hockey player, a Canadian player who's playing over in Europe right now, swears by it, because he can think faster on the ice. He heals faster from any wounds.

And in hockey, you get that. and he's stronger. So he's faster, stronger, can think better with the puck, and he heals faster. So all athletes should be having this as well as the baby boomers who are feeling their ills these days. Anyway, go ahead. Yeah, I was just going to say, you know, I think of like there's been a lot of conjecture back and forth on the use of methylene blue.

I personally find it fantastic. And it's been said that it's an electron donor in the electron transport. chain and that that's just giving the mitochondria more to use, right? And so it also potentially is increasing photobiomodulation and other things, you know, so it's multifaceted. But thinking about, you know, these extra electrons coming through, that that would potentially have a similar effect and that we have more mitochondria in our brain and our heart than anywhere else. So when we think of like what's real energy, what's real cognitive stamina, it's going to come from influencing the mitochondria, you know, in a good way, right? That's absolutely correct. First of all, you need the

hydrogen for the mitochondria to make the energy, the ATP and that sort of thing. But then to get those extra electrons in there, even just enhances everything else. For myself, as I continued inhaling, I started, there was various things that happened. Like I said, your regeneration system goes, your immune system goes, and then your organs start to fail. I had a heart murmur since I was a child, weak fluttery heart valve. My grandfather died of complications of his heart murmur. So it's something I was genetically predisposed to.

And the woman I'm married to now sends me in once a year for a checkup, just to make sure I'm healthy, I guess. And the first time I went in a couple of years after I had started inhaling, he was checking my heart with a stethoscope, and I said, I know I have a heart murmur. He says, no, you don't. my heart healed not only just all the scars on my skin

which is the skin is the largest organ on your body but and the next thing that I noticed as my hand warts were all gone so my immune systems got strong enough to get rid of a virus that I'd had since childhood I no longer wear glasses I had worn glasses since I was nine years old I had talk about pain

the arthritis was painful and I have full strength and flexibility now back, but I had areas on my skin like the palm on my left hand and the fronts of my knees to my feet where I had neuropathy, which was a total loss of feeling. You could stick pins and needles in that. I felt nothing. I have total feeling back in those areas. So it was regenerating not just my skin, but all my nerves in my skin as well, and also the nerves in my head. I had tinnitus to the point where, and I had all these things developing even when I started in drinking the browns gas rich water in 2005 till 2016 when I started to inhale. I had all these things

developing. I had my psoriasis and my neuropathies and my bad eyesight and all those kind of things until I started inhaling the gas. So in any case with my tinnitus, I only hear a slight hiss now when I'm under extreme stress. Other than that, It was bad enough. I could hardly hear people speak. And the largest collection of nerve cells in your body is between your ears, right? And it turns out that tinnitus has nothing to do with the ear. They've had people who had cancer of the ear, and they took the entire ear mechanism right out,

and the people still had the tinnitus. It has to do with the, in your brain, is expecting a certain signal that it's not getting, and it compensates with that hiss noise or ringing or whatever, any particular person is doing. So obviously my entire body has been healing and I remember four years into inhaling. I've been doing it for 10 years now. Four years into inhaling, I was washing my feet in the shower and discovered that I wasn't leaning against the shower wall. See, I was washing my feet standing on one foot and washing my other foot. My balance had come back. So this was an additional thing that as you continue over the years continuing to inhale, your body just gets

healthier and healthier. That's, I mean, thank you for the whole last section of this, because those are the things I geek out on. I just had David Weck on the podcast, inventor of the Bosu ball. And I, you know, I just read his book. He's got a book that's coming out of October 17th. And I was like, he's probably the only guy on earth that could make me have a deep attraction towards balance training.

You're like, there's very few, normally I see shit like that. I'm like, ah, you know, that's for the circus guys. That's for Cirque to Soleil or somebody in Vegas. But like the importance of that is access, right? How do I access my strength? We're only as strong as our weakest links. And, you know, if there is some lack of communication within the body on how I move, you think from a longevity standpoint, that really is what matters.

You know, it's going to be a fall or something in that effect. Sure, if you have more muscle, it can prevent things. And if your bone density's there. But how about not falling in the first place as being a little. like letting you know, like we're thinking all this other stuff is symptomatic, go to the root and affect the balance. And if it's helping the brain in that way, I have to imagine it's helping it in all ways because I've talked about this before on the podcast, but I remember Lumosity, you know, the brain grain that had come out. It was like an app, you know, that

was going to make you smarter and everybody, you know, it's a brain game app. So everybody's getting, it was all the rage for a while. And, you know, third party decided to look at it. And they're like, well, does this actually make you smarter? And the answer was, getting really good at Lumosity, made you really good at Lumosity, nothing else. So then they wanted to see, well, what does have transfer? And it was balance, anything that had to do with the balance, like cross-coordination, and learning a second language and learning music. Those are the three things that kind of helped universally improve cognitive function. And so I've really held that since that understanding. And a lot of people overlook balance.

You know, they're like, all right, I'm going to learn piano or I'm going to pick up a second language, but they don't think about balance and coordination. I think when they go to the gym and they do leg press and bench press that they're somehow working balance, they're not. You're on a bench. You're on a flat service. Like there's no balance training there. So I find that very, very, you know, interesting to me.

Yes, that's absolutely true. And that's what does take out a lot of elderly people because they break a hip or something and they essentially never get out of the hospital again and they're gone. So, yeah, for longevity, balance is absolutely. important, but just for enjoyment of life. One of the things that I, and I appreciate so much about the Browns gas is that it took away my pain. Even in my 50s with my arthritis, I was thinking I was going to have to live the rest of my life with pain. I have no pain. A few years back, after I was inhaling, I was doing a stupid thing pounding in a metal post with just a pipe instead

of a regular post-pounder, and I sprained my shoulder. And I knew it was going to take about three weeks to heal because I sprained my shoulder in the past. Three days. In three days, I had full strength and flexibility back from that very severe sprain. I couldn't even lift my arm. It was incredible. So it's really lack of pain.

I enjoy that so much. Yeah, that's massive. Well, tell us the website. Where can people find you? where can people get a hold of this stuff? This has been awesome. I really appreciate the time. My inventing website is eagle-dashresearch.com. So eagle like the bird, E-A-G-L-E, and then hyphen mark research.com. That has about 5,000 pages of information. I've been developing that website since I first started it in 1996. And so it does have a bit of a legacy look, and it was mostly my own

writing, so it's not all polished and professional, like a lot of them out there. But that's, so it's eagle-researchearch.com. Be sure to put the hyphen between Eagle and Research, or you'll go off to someplace else. My wife, however, decided she wanted to help people a little bit more. And so she's developed and is in charge of aquacure. So just like the name of our product, Aquacure. So aquacure. dot life and that's pretty much just focuses on the aquacure itself.

So those people just want to go there. And we have a one year satisfaction guarantee and a lifetime warranty. Like I said, I'm a lazy person. I don't like to fix things more than once. So just like automobiles, the technology exists. For a million mile automobiles, it would have minimal maintenance. That technology exists and has existed for a long time. But they don't do it because it's much more profitable to,

service automobiles and to keep selling you a new one kind of thing. And the same is true of sick care, right? Because it's more profitable to service people than cure them. It is absolutely true. And anything that actually cures people gets suppressed in a lot of different ways. Just like alternative energy. There are so many free energy devices, like over 5,000 free energy devices the U.S. government has suppressed, actually grabbed the patents for

that prevents the, including water is fuel. There's at least one guy out there I know that was suppressed deliberately by the United States government for water's fuel technology. But the medical system, like you started out, to begin with, all the homeopathy, by the way, we get into things with the Browns gas, we call the Philosopher's Stone for a reason,

or say it's like the Philosopher's Stone. Think of everything the Philosopher Stone can do. heal people, long life, transmutation, all of these kind of things. The Brown's gas seems to be able to do that. And I just make deuterium depleted water. There's the next thing that's going to be coming out. So every aquacure that we've ever made has the ability to power a fuel a microtorch, and the exhaust from the micro-torch is deuterium-depleted water.

Okay? because in the electrolyzer itself, the light water splits easier than the heavy water. So the hydrogen and oxygen that's coming out is light hydrogen. So when it recombines into the steam, it's light water, deuterium depleted water. So everybody, there's people who are spending $500 a month to try to get the deuterium levels in their body down. Because excess deuterium, which we're getting in all the foods we eat and the water we're drinking and all the kind of stuff, If you're getting more deterium in than your body's getting rid of, it rises. And just like heavy water was originally in nuclear power plants, and they still use it for that to help dampen nuclear reactions, it does the same thing to our metabolism.

So if you can get your deuterium, you need some deuterium to control things, but you get your deuterium levels down, your metabolism starts to come back online. So this deuterium-depleted water portion of the aquacure or functionality is an important one as well. well. And then we can go off into the transmutation at some point, which is astonishing in and of itself, where you can actually turn water into various elements. Whoa. Well, this is awesome. I think you're, I can't wait to see what else you develop. Anytime you've got something that you want to talk about, you're welcome back on the podcast. I'm going to check out, you know, aquacure.com. And you said about eight hours is like your gold, your gold standard if you're doing this for all the health benefit you want eight hours a day.

Is this something you can wear when you go to sleep at night? That's exactly right. Most people that are doing eight hours because they have severe ailments like cancer, Parkinson's, Alzheimer's, that sort of thing. Like even a couple hours during the day, the Parkinson's patients who have a lot of waggle, the tremors just go away. but if you want to actually heal, then longer is better. More is not better.

More is dangerous. Longer is better. So you get, keep your blood saturated. You don't have to have more than 1 or 2% hydrogen to do that. And then I have my sleep with it notes. So anybody wants to sleep with it can contact me and I'll send the notes. Tell them how to get, for example, silicon cannulas. So they're very soft.

How to get the proper, pay attention to your, your mouth falling open at night. There's various ways that you can keep that from happening. So you keep inhaling through your nose. There's just notes that help people get their full eight hours in when they have serious ailments. Now, I no longer have any of those serious ailments, but I still do my eight hours a day because I love what it's doing for me.

Yeah, that's awesome. Well, thank you, brother. This has been incredible. That's it. I go out there direct people too. Yeah, you're not on social media at all, are you? I am. We just kind of got on it.

I kind of didn't pay attention to it for a long time. But my, so we're just getting on there. YouTube is my biggest social media. I've been on there forever. But I do have a LinkedIn and TikTok, not TikTok, X. Cool. Well, I'll have you send me all this. We'll throw all this in the show notes for people so they can follow along.

And thanks again, George. It's been excellent having Jan, brother. Hey, it's been excellent being here, talking with a fellow. Who knows this stuff?