Kyle Kingsbury Podcast - EP - 451 Adam Schell - Microdosing

Episode Date: April 7, 2026

This episode is all about microdosing- specifically with psilocybin mushrooms.    Brainsupreme.co/KKP for 15% off  Website - https://brainsupreme.com Twitter - https://twitter.com/brain_supp   My new community "The Kingdom Within" is launching May 1st on Skool. Sign up here! skool.com/@kyle-kingsbury-8880   summary This episode explores the transformative potential of microdosing psilocybin and other natural substances for enhancing cognitive function, athletic performance, and overall well-being. Hosted by a seasoned athlete and a microdosing expert, the conversation covers protocols, personal experiences, and the science behind these practices.  keywords microdosing, psilocybin, cognitive enhancement, athletic performance, neuroplasticity, natural supplements, flow state, brain repair, mental health, performance optimization  key  topics Microdosing protocols and benefits Personal experiences with microdosing in fighting and training The science of psilocybin and neurogenesis Applications for brain repair and mental health Stacking supplements for performance and cognition Resources: Jim Fadiman's book 'The Psychedelic Explorer's Guide' - https://www.amazon.com/Psychedelic-Explorers-Guide-Scientific-Approach/dp/1594774021 Brain Supreme Official Website - https://brainsupreme.com Connor Milstein's Training Programs - https://connormilstein.com David Weck's Movement Method - https://weckmethod.com  guest links Website - https://brainsupreme.com Twitter - https://twitter.com/brain_supp    

Welcome to today's podcast. We have the return of my buddy, Adam, the founder of Brain Supreme. We took a deep dive into his background on the first podcast. This one, we really just went straight to it. What is microdosing and what are the best practices? How do we pair these things? What are the uses for it? You know, it's going to be a different protocol for somebody who's trying to heal their brain from traumatic brain injury.

And that's not just MMA fighters and boxers. That could be a hockey player. It could be somebody who was in a car accident. It could be a veteran. And those protocols look a little bit different. If you're just trying to optimize your workouts and get the most out of something, there's protocols for that. If you're trying to learn something new, this is a great use of microdosing.

There are protocols for that as well. And a lot of that is a personal relationship. And so we talk about how to develop that personal relationship. What does onboarding look like? What do the different dosing protocols look like? And best practices all around. So we dive right into this stuff. I love this episode.

Brain Supreme is the only sponsor of the show these days. So just getting that out there, KKP will give you a 15% discount. And I hope you guys enjoy this. Whether you order from Brain Supreme or not, I think this is something everybody wants to know and really deep dive into. There's tons of science coming out these days from all over the place. We've got major universities looking into the benefits cognitively from macros and micros when it comes to psilocybin mushrooms and a number of other compounds that are in here that we know boost cognitive function. Lots of cool stuff in this episode. Share it with friends and support Brain Supreme that supports this podcast.

All right, y'all. Thank you for tuning in. Share this with friends. And I'll see you on the other side. It's your podcast. Personal, yeah. Welcome to Cal Kingserboggy. Welcome, Adam to my podcast.

This is great. Podcast host with podcast host. When I take the athlete, now, let me backtrack, the two types of kickboxing, Muay workouts that I do are either three minutes on, 45 seconds off for, you know, one round of shadow boxing than 10 rounds. We have five different bags. We rotate through twice. So that's about a 45 minute.

It's a little bit long for BFR, but I don't give a fuck. It's more for the endurance than anything else. And then the other one we do like I did today is I'm short on time. I go 11 rounds straight with no rest. So it's from one bag to the next. I'm just looking at my clock to see like, oh, it's been three minutes moved to the next place. And so I have to pace myself a little differently because it's 33 minutes straight, which would never happen.

in a fight, but that is, it's a different type of cardio. And so, and of course with the bands on, 33 minutes straight can give you a whopper. Kyle's talking about the blood flow restriction. Yeah, your audience knows, but for my audience, like, which is like total fucking game changer. Yeah, Dr. Mike DeBore's been on my podcast a bunch. Look up those podcasts, glancing the show notes. If you want to get it, they're awesome. 33 minutes straight with two athletes and I get a pretty decent pump.

Like in a way it wasn't debilitating the way like NO. was, you know, like, we'd go to, like, I had a supplement sponsor, so I went to the Mr. Olympia, and this is right when NO Explode came out and, like, Forrest Griffin's out there, kind of like, you can, you don't take this shit, do you? And he just smiles.

It's like, I love it. Like, you couldn't fucking box for more than 90 seconds so that your arms feeling like they're going to fall off. So something there gives me a greater pump. However, it wasn't debilitating. It wasn't like I lost pop. I just got really fucking pumped. I don't know if it was the cituline,

something like that, you know, increased in basalilation. Personally, I love one genius, one athlete. That's what I took this morning. I feel like it's the best of both worlds. I've done two geniuses great too. You know, like on days, if I'm learning shit or doing something else, I really want to get into, we're getting like all the kids are just learning piano right now. Bear loves violin, but, you know, we're going to talk about cognitive function here in a minute

and not how all this applies to it, but something I want to do. is start on the kid's piano with the genius and see what that can do for the brain as well. Yeah. So I'm excited to run that test. But yeah, I think one athlete, one genius, or two genius, even though if it was strictly weight training, like two athletes is awesome.

Yeah. Like there's a spark that, you know, locks you in with. And you mentioned pickleball the other day, too. Pickleball, dude. Which is, so, you know, when you mentioned that, I mentioned on the phone the other day, it's like my third leading point of sales is, like, is 40 to 70,

year old pickleball players who are getting into microdosing. Are 90% of them in Austin? Well, yes, because that's where I am. And it's a large following of pickleball players in Austin. But now it's, now it's, but they're telling their friends so starting to spread. Like, as much as we can track these things, like, pickleball is like a, there's like a significant jump category for us in the last year. It's crazy.

It's an incredible sport. And let me just say this. It's funny. It's like Connor Milstein, our guy, our movement guy, he's like, I wouldn't call it a sport. You know what it's like? You know, he. plays tennis, he does MMA, you know, he's sparring with the pro team and doing all

this shit. So like I give him credit, he knows what real sports are. But, you know, back to this, the start of this conversation, we kind of just jumped right in is we're going to talk microdosing today. And we're going to talk brain supreme, which is, you know, your company. It's a fucking phenomenal microdosing company. There's other things you guys have created. So we're talking about different things that you have, like the genius or the athlete.

And how those can be used in up, what kind of application, right? Do we really work with this? And so a lot of these applications, you know, from a sports performance standpoint have to do with, am I going to perform better, right? Then there's other applications for neuroplasticity, creating, you know, new neuronal connections, increasing just cognitive output in all directions, right? And there's some things that we can do without microdosing that enhance that, right? And then there's a lot of things we can do with microdosing that enhance that as well.

And so I'm thinking of stacks, you know, that we can get to. So, anywho, a lot of this came from me personally and why I've been drawn to it. In my fight career, I was introduced to plant medicines for my boxing coach. Everyone listening this fucking podcast, this is your first time. You've heard me tell this a million times. Boxing coach was Wheatty. He was Aztec, Miseo, and he would take us out for traditional sweat lodges. And after a couple years of sweating only, he introduces to plant medicines.

Not all of us, but a lot of us at American Kickboxing Academy. me. And those were big doses. Those were macros. Like my first, my first journey with my wife, we basically split an ounce. And ounce is 28 grams. Yeah. So it was just a hair under 14 grams apiece. Yeah. So just so for your audience or my audience to know, like the historic therapeutic journeying dose is five grams. That's the heroic dose from McKenna's, the five grams. Yeah, five grams. These days, mushrooms can be stronger. Most people are like depending maybe 3.5 to 4 grams. But you basically took a triple dose. Yeah.

I mean, two grams of the right penis on me. It could also be a full send. But yeah, that was a, those are big journeys. And so that's what I knew from that world. He taught us respect, reverence, a lot of Native American wisdom, intention setting, how to hold a sacred container, right? And we're doing this on Native land. And he's our only guy. And it's just us when we're doing sweat lodge and drum it in.

And he'd sing his prayer songs and things like that. and we'd have just incredible experiences, then later got into Iowaska, thanks to him. And that was a whole, holy shit. Like, there's a whole world here. He's what drew me to Aubrey and coming to Austin, was a lot of his talks on those. In fighting, though, it was a funny thing,

as I told Kane Velasquez this, was like, hey, wait till you're done fighting before you try this, because I don't really care anymore. There was a point where fighting was the most important thing in my life. My entire career, and then that point shifted. And I don't know if it was from any one single journey, but it basically became,

not the most important thing in my life anymore. And so I told him to hold off on that. And thankfully he has, and he's jumped in and he's done, he learned a ton of, ton from it. But at the time where I was getting ready to retire, that's just when a lot of these big fighters started talking about using. Wait, let me, let me just hit pause. So you're saying that your heroic journeys gave you like a new quantum

understanding of life and your role in it. So your kind of slender myopic focus on fighting got broad. end. So that's why you thought maybe there was no attachment to it. It's like when football, I don't know how it was for you because you played football at Northwestern. I played Arizona State. Even though I sat the bench my whole senior year, when football ended, I was fucking devastated. Devastated. I had no outlet. I had no reason to take care of myself. I had nothing to train for, no teammates to work with. I was going a 24-hour fitness. It felt like masturbating after having the best girlfriend for four years. You know, there was something lost I couldn't

make up for. Good metaphor. And, but when it came time to leave fighting, that wasn't the case at all. Like I had no attachment to, but I'm a fighter, I'm a warrior, I'm a this, I'm a that, like all that shit was just yes and. You know, that doesn't define me. There is a part of me for damn sure, but it's yes and there's so

much more. And so, you know, leaving the sport was a hard decision, but it was the right decision. I was only 32 years old. And I say that because I felt like I never really got to test microdosing in the peak experience of a professional fight. You know,

because I can test myself inspiring, and it's not the fucking same. Fortunately, I was able, I heard enough guys like Donald Seroni talking about it. And, God, what's the other guy? I want to call him Joey something. Joe, Fighter's Brain. What, what, that were, they were microdosing fairly regularly. Yeah. And so, and microing for these guys went up to, like, three grams, you know, but, like, they weren't in a visual, in a visionary state.

you could say they were concert dosing for the amount of how often they took it, you know, this is a drug or a compound where the more often you take it, the more your body downregulates, it's visionary function, right? So it doesn't mean it's not working on the brain, it means that you're just going to have less of a transformative experience from a one-off.

All that said, I really wanted to do it. You know, I was like, damn, dude, I wish I had done this. And Jason Ellis, who's a buddy, hit me up. He's like, dude, come to Ellis Mania, fight me in the main event, boxing only. And I was like, I haven't sparred in fucking six years. And he's like, fuck it, come on, mate. And I was like, all right.

And I was like, I'm going to have microdose through this, right? So I had 100 mugs of penis envy. And from the warm up through the entire fight, I've never felt so loose, so in command and control of my body, so fearless. You know, you have to have some level of fear when you fight or when you compete. Some level of nerves means that you respect what's about to happen, right? to go in there aloof is like, you just, you don't know. Right. So some level of nerves is acceptable, but quite often it would debilitate me, as with most guys.

So having sparred maybe four times in the last six years before this first fight with Ellis was just like, we're going to get to see right now if this shit works or not. And I'm telling you, like, his coaches came up to me after and they're like, I've never seen you so fluid, so crisp with your hands. It's like, why didn't you box more? And I was like, honestly, I was pretty good in the, in the, in the, the sparring room. Mm-hmm. But it didn't translate when I fought in the cage.

Yeah. And the fear thing was a big one. The negative mind was a big one. And the microsylcybin fucking wipe that clean like it never existed. Instant flow, complete presence. Again, like, I'm listening to Pat Benatar and fucking Whitney Houston, like, just warming up. Blast in this shit. Michael Bisbing comes from across because Bisbing was, uh, was cornering Ellis.

And he's like, what are you doing in here? Like, I was like, I was like just fucking dancing around. He's like, okay, okay. You could feel the vibe. But yeah, I got, I had two fights with Ellis. Both of them were, were really successful. And I credit the microdosing for allowing me to be the very best version of myself.

Yeah. And then, you know, enter you. I had to meet you through Cal, find out about this company you've got, and you guys are making fucking phenomenal products. So I've been working with those. Obviously, you've got protocols. I don't want to dive into these different protocols. Yeah.

But this is basically, you know, if we just had, we did a Tarantino podcast. in a way because we just jumped right into the what do you like stacking it's good but you also do your little intro beforehand so it'll work exactly i want to just um one kind of annotation to what you'd said so like originally you were thinking as like as this transitioning in your life from the fighter to maybe something else that those heroic journeys those macro journeys might have like taken you out of the myopic fighter mindset um that's why you kind of worn cane velasquez right am I understanding of? Yeah.

And, you know, that might have been more a synthesis of, like, the quality of the relationship you had, your desire to be a father, like a lot of other things might have influenced that. And the mushrooms might have just, it's now your time to go this direction. Right. Without receiving any more damage. But the one thing I'd say for, like, for younger people who are still in the, what I call the princely stage of life. So you have, you have childhood mimicking, and then you have the squire stage, which is the

heavier the bird and the stronger the more. back. So basically 14 to like 24, apprentice, apprentice, squire, squire, attain skills that you can apply to your princely stage of life when it's all about conquest. You want to go out in the world and now you want titles and acquisitions and accomplishments. And you want to do, you want, it's your time of like serious ambition. You want to do it with a sense of decency and morality that you develop during the squiring stage because you studied under masterful people who were, had a kind of holistic understanding of what it means to be a well-realized expert in your field and a quality human being.

But the princely stage is all about attainment. And then you go into the kingly stage, and the kingly stage is all about keeping the peace and growing the prosperity because now you have children and businesses and partners. King must be generative. Yes. So keep the peace, grow the prosperity. And then the wise elder stage where you give it all away. Our friend Calahan is like a really good example of a guy who like unknowingly played out

these stages really, really well. I think I've had trouble in my life because I have to be the kingly. princely stage kind of simultaneously after my cannabis face plant and all that other shits but that's like a whole other separate conversation the thing that i wanted to touch upon is that princely stage of life if you are so emmessed in your ego and accomplishment and what you do is your identity it can cause a crippling fear so you're going in to fight okay but you are in your entirety a fighter so if you lose there is so much at stake your identity crumbles And what the macrodose and the microdose can do is connect you to the divine so that you're more than the singularity of your experience.

You're more than the singularity of your identity. And what you experience is the liberation of that. Yeah. So the macrodose, the microdose liberates you from the singularity of your identity and then you enter flow state. Because your flow state is restricted by the singularity of your identity and the risk of a complete identity collapse. That's really what the jitters, you know, when athletes. get into their head. There's so much the singularity of their identity that missing the free throw, you know, not getting a goal a game, you know, football players, MMMA guys, the loss is,

equates to a collapse of identity and death. We view that as personal death. So when you can do things in your life that open you up to the divine, you enter flow state because you're more than just this one endeavor that you're in. So you can fully participate in this endeavor. That's perfectly stated, perfectly stated. I think, too, fighters uniquely, you know, are in the position

where if you don't win, you get half your pay, right? So, like, that in and of itself is there. If you're not on a win streak, you have no, no room to negotiate

when you have a contract renewal. Yeah. Right. Like, you have to be on a freaking big win streak when that contract end so you can even say,

hey, you wanted to give me a $3,000 raise. I think it should be $10,000 raise. Yeah. Right. And we're scratching for fucking peanuts off the table

compared to what these guys made. but that too is a separate conversation. But yeah, and then, you know, you have, I mean, in all sports, if you're in the spotlight, you're going to have people that are commenting about you and talking about you and sports writers and that kind of shit. I mean, famously, I had, I had, I think it was Josh Gross, maybe a Sports Illustrated article he was writing for them,

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All right, back to the podcast. Because my final four fights in a row were against like just fucking nasty, nasty, beastly dudes. Which is comical. But any of you, you know, your point hits absolutely. And I feel like, you know,

it's not just something for peak performance. I love it from a peak performance standpoint, even though I'll never fight professionally again. I geek out on that shit. Like, I want to know like,

oh, can this get me dialed, you know, on a hunt? Can this get me dialed when my heart rate's going to be through the roof? Can this help me lock in in a way that's previously harder to access? Yeah.

And then that becomes easier and easier to access with or without it. Yeah. And I feel like this is a technology that does this. Yeah, yeah, for sure. And I would say cumulatively, I mean, I've been at this for eight years, the cumulative benefit of the microdose. I have this expression that I use called the film Fantastic Fun Guy, largely about the life and work of Paul Stammets, pre-COVID Paul Stamets.

So that helps me personally. Before he's using words like super spreader and shit. Yes, and like and working with Fauci and all that of shit. But it's about the. the mycelial networks of the forest and where they interconnect the forest in the way that these root fibers of the mushrooms can relay information between the trees. And even they think maybe even between the birds of prey to eat a salmon on this tree because this tree needs the fish guts.

It sends the warning signals for invasive species that are hitting the trees. Like it's really quite incredible. I have this theory called the etheric mycelial network was for my heart, from like my fourth chakra, my sixth chakra, like I just feel this thing. tuned in connection. So intimacy, vulnerability, authentic connection, like there's been a kind of cumulative, just like flow state of who you're meant to connect with and how you're meant to connect with them. Now you give, now you receive. Oh, there's nothing happening with this person over here. So just let it go, back it off. Like you become kind of aware of that. Like,

like right now, like I feel like a real sense of flow. Well, I've always had a great connection with you, but like the sense of flow state in our connection, like it's almost tactile. It's almost like I can feel it. I also did, I've been doing MacStack and Blackstack, which is so, definitely, definitely helps. Next level shit, as it says. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's talk about that.

So I want to get into, you know, some of the different protocols because you have a list of different protocols on ways to do things. Again, rewinding, when I was coming out of fighting, I knew that I needed to heal my brain, somewhere shape, or form. I didn't think I had CTE or, you know,

like serious brain damage, but looking, at some of my teammates and guys that I had trained with for a long time that were only a year or two older than me, I could see them starting to slip. You know, and I was like, fuck, dude, was we didn't know at the beginning. It's kind of like, yeah, this is taking its damage, but it's not taking the damage that

boxers take. They've only got a head and a gut to hit. You know, we've got all the rest of us to hit. We've got grappling. We've got jiu-jitsu. We've got all these different martial arts that kind are meant to save the head. We can wrestle and grab and hold on to somebody without getting punched. And yet still, you know, it

takes its toll. So, fasting, ketogenic diets, was in and out of nutritional ketosis for the first two years, did two five-day water fast, a lot of hyperbaric oxygen therapy, and a lot of the macrodoses. Stamit comes along, and he talks a bit about a brain reboot.

You know, I think that's five days on, two days off for a month, something that effect. But I'd love for you to talk about, you know, if you're trying to heal the brain, there's a method for that. And then if you're looking for, you know, flow state experience,

a couple days a week, there's a method for that. And if you're looking for like a peak experience, there's a, there's a method for that. Break this down for us, brother. Okay. So I feel most of your audience knows, but we'll just kind of do it very briefly. So the best way to understand the microdoses in the context of the macro dose. So the historic macro dose is five grams or 5,000 milligrams.

Microdosing happens. It's subjective, but, you know, it tends to happen at the sub 10% level of that. So microdosing is historically like 100 to 400 milligrams. Then you go enter the realm of like recreational dosing, call that. It's also subjective for people, but call that 500 milligrams to like 1.25 grams. That's the kind of recreational dosing, museum dosing, concert dosing. And then once you get beyond that, you're entering the psychedelic realm. Might not be as long a journey if you're at like two grams, but you're probably going to hit

like a traditional psychedelic realm of oral acuity, visual acuity, you know, visions, sights, intuitions, things like that. The flower smile at you. Yeah. So, but the microdose is designed to be. perceptible but non-intoxicating, non-hullucinatory. But you should perceive some overall increase in your efficacy. And you just, and that's very different.

Like I have some MMA buddies when I was living in Santa Rosa who they needed like 700 milligrams to do a microdose. So what we, the brain supreme kind of coaching protocol, I say demystify, familiarize, and personalize. So like if microdosing, you know, if this carries a stigma for you, start on. on off day. Start on a Saturday morning, okay? You got nothing to do. Any concerns that you're going to, you know, go crazy and hallucinate. Just take all that. Just totally de-stress the whole thing and just allow yourself to demystify the process. So your first day or two, if you've never

microdose, just take like 100 milligrams. That's one capsule. So we, because we have, so genius, feel good athlete, we're at 100 milligrams of what we call active and 400 milligrams of complementary ingredients. So 100 milligrams in the best case scenario will be like mildly perceptible. No one's going to lose their shit over 100 milligrams. So just, but just demystify. Try that on off day. Best in the morning. Best on an empty stomach. Best with a glass of lemon water. There's a couple kind of like best case scenarios. It works very well with Maxdack, but we can kind of go into that later. And just see how you do and really allow yourself like somewhere between 60 to 75 minutes is like this sweet spot of onset and just kind of see how you do. So de,

mystify the process. And then from there, we enter in the realm of familiarization. And for familiarization, we recommend the supplement protocol. The supplement protocols five days in a row and then two days off, five days on, two days off. I like to do it actually during my Monday through Friday because it makes me better as a dad, a husband, a business owner. It's like it just puts me into a better headspace. But I tell people, if you're new to microdosing, take the first two weeks to a month and just do the supplement protocol. Find out how that works for you. Do five days in a row, start with one capsule, and then just scale up to you hit that perceptible,

non-intoxicating, non-hulucentory, but you notice like, oh, I know what I'm paying for. People who, there are microdose coaches out there. And I mean, I do microdose coaching, but I have a product to sell. So when you have a product to sell, it's great because you can give away the knowledge and information for free. If all you have is your knowledge and information, you have to put a value on that. I totally understand that coaches are very valuable. but people make a very big deal out of microdosing and like honestly it's not it's really not it's not a big

fucking deal it's like if you spent 90 bucks for vitamin c and you're like holy shit like that vitamin c work like everybody else from mommy got sick i didn't get sick and like i feel great that's microdosing basically it's going to be a subtly perceptible increase in your neurocognition your libido your connectivity your ability to kind of compartmentalize stress process stress you might start sleeping better Like you want to perceive some level of benefit in your life. Now, I have certain like combat veterans, PTSD, people have experienced like real heavy duty trauma and they're like, they go on a six month run where their life is just 50, 60 percent better.

Like they can't believe it. Like they're sleeping. They stop having night terrors. They stop having suicide ideation. You know, like the, so there can be that. But for the most part, a realistic expectation is like if you get a 10 to 15 percent bump in your overall well-being, which is enormous when you think about. out that that accrues over the course of a week.

You know, if you're 10% better every day, you're 70% better over the course of a week. Hard thing to quantify, but you kind of know, you kind of get a sense of like of what I'm talking about. That's really what you're going for. So that period of just taking two, three weeks or a month, just like your first bag of product,

just get yourself familiar with how to microdose because it's very, very subjective. So, you know, the science of microdosing essentially boils down to this. Like there's, listen, Huberman's got great podcasts on the three hours on every aspect of microdosing. I'm in the microdosing space and that shit bores the hell out of me because I don't need that much information.

I'm like I'm a bit of like a cave dweller in a way. Like does it work or does it not work? And if it works, like I'm not that curious. That's to know every single aspect of why something works. Which reset 5HT, 2A access receptors. There are people who really give a shit about that and geek out and that. Like my brain's just not wired that way. You know, I'm like, it works, move on.

What's the next thing it works? So, but basically the science of psilocybin works like this, is it moves your brain in a beneficial direction, whether you're cognizant or not. And if you have some intentionality and you are cognizant of it, it can move your brain in a beneficial direction even a little quicker. A couple things happen with psilocybin. You have neurogenesis, the creation of new neural pathways, new and beneficial newer pathways. You have neuroregenesis for like fighters and football players, aspects of the brain that have been

damaged or pathways that are kind of getting dim or dull. are underused that are beneficial, they will regenerate. And then there's not a proper scientific term for what I'm about to say, but there's something that I find called negative neurodegenesis. So negative pathways. Is that two negatives equal a positive? I don't know what the hell it is, but somebody else can. Negative and D at this says.

Somebody else can kind of, but there's a form of degenesis that happens where non-beneficial pathways, because look, you can, you can start doom scrolling is neuropathology. So if every night, you know, after dinner, if you digest and grab your phone and you start your, you know, your shit scrolling, your doom scrolling, you're making pathways that then every night at 730, you kind of feel the ink. That's, that's no problem. I can help myself. We've got to open the phone. Yeah. Yeah. So microdosing can help with the degenesis of that. It can unwire the negative pathway. So those are the three things that are basically going on with the microdose. But the level as to how much you can feel that is completely subjective. And, And what's the best way to microdose? So that first month of just familiarization, do I like to microdose at 8am? And then do I like to do another one at 1 p.m.?

You know, do I like to do Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, on one capsule and Thursday, Friday on two capsules? Or do I like to do Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, on two capsules and Thursday, Friday on three capsules, because you will acclimate over the course of the week. We call that scaling. Do I like stacking? You know, after, I tell everybody, like, don't go crazy at first.

Just order one pack. It's kind of expensive. You want to make sure it works. Just order one pack. But, you know, do I like stacking? Do I like taking, you know, feel good an athlete together? Or do I like taking feel good and genius or genius and athlete? Like, you know, some, for the most part,

microdosing could be perceived as sleep disruptive if done too late in the day, not from a caffeine standpoint. We have a little gujarana in our products and we have a little green tea extract. But honestly, it equates to like maybe eight milligrams of total caffeine. Because when you have 40 milligrams of Guarana, it's about a 10% caffeine level. So none of our products have more than 10, milligrams of actual caffeine and a cup of coffee is 180 milligrams, 150 to 180 milligrams of caffeine,

a cup of coffee. So that, all that shit's negligible. But sometimes microdosing later in the day can make your brain a little kind of neuroactive. So you're still fired up and still creative. Some people have certain levels of brain trauma that, like, they've never slept better and they'll microdose in the evening and actually sleep better. So you just got to familiarize and find all that stuff out. And then once you've kind of figured out, like, what's my dose? What's my sweet spot? then you can go into the personalization stage, and that's where performance dosing comes in, which is mostly what I do,

and like what my professional athletes do, which will be an every other day protocol or a one day on, two day off, or like a Wednesday training, Saturday game. Yeah. You want to use it. Never start that on game day. So the performance dosing is going to be

a slightly higher perceptible dose that's done before your endeavor of choice, whether that's just like you're going for a hike or you're doing a heavy-duty sparring session, or it's your, you know, your soccer matches on Saturday at, you know, 11 a.m. And that will be, so that's like, that usually tends to scale like the three to maybe four or even 500 milligrams combination for people. So, and you want to time that out like 60 to 75 minutes before you're really into it

with your, with your game, with your endeavor, because that's, that tends to be. And then that sweet spot will go from like one hour to about hour four or five, you'll kind of be in. You'll kind of be in that more that flow state. So I do this with my training sessions. I tend to do in every other day workout scenario. So Monday, Wednesday, Friday, I'll take like two genius, two athlete, or I'll take a black stack and a genius

or a black stack and an athlete, but I tend to microdose around 400 milligrams and I do that about an hour before I train. And my workouts are flow state. They're super enjoyable. And that's like the pickleball scenario that we're doing right now. So we've got supplement protocol, performance dosing,

and then we have peak day dosing. So, like, a lot of people want to be a microdoser. Like, they might like me. They might like the products. They might like sponsoring your show. But, like, honestly, it can be diminishing returns. Sometimes you lose that kind of honeymoon effect and you want to really keep that. So just listen to your intuition.

And if that's the case, then you can just keep it for peak days. Like, let's say every other Friday you've got like a really heavy dude crossfoot workout and then you have a performance at review at work or some kind of all in staff meeting. You want to peak on those days. That's where you kind of do your peak day dosing. or on Saturday mornings, that's your nature day. You go for a trail run, a hike, a mountain bike. Just keep it for that day. So that's pretty much the three ways that you can microdose.

You can treat it as a supplement, which I tell everybody to do to start. You can treat it as a performance booster, flow state, or you can treat it for peak day experiences. Love that. Yeah, and I've done the five days on, two days off for a month twice now. But that's the best for brain repair. Yeah. If you're really going for brain repair. Or if you're really working on trauma.

Like if you really have trauma. Like the supplement protocol for six months can be really super beneficial. I bet. Yeah. The other thing with mushrooms is that they'll tell you. Like these things are sentient. They literally will let you know. Like you don't have to freak out.

Just be easy on yourself. The mushrooms will let you know. Like I've had some combat veterans who they're feeling so much better that taking two days off causes them so much anxiety. I'm like, don't. Just run it. Just seven days in a row. you know three four five six months run it the mushroom's going to let you know like ah the work's been done you know like your brain's reached a point you feel full psilocybin is non-addictive and it's actually

anti-addictive like this is used to cure other addictions the dell center for psychedelic research and therapeutics at university texas has proven this that it reduces alcohol consumption by 25 we've seen all so many of our friends who have come out of a macro dose and addictions and so forth like this whole notion of moving your brain in a beneficial direction is so true like like pornography addictions, gambling addictions, alcohol consumption, reactive behavior. Like, I get feedback all the time. And we're like, we're pretty significant now in terms of like the feedback that we've received. Like we've sold like 30,000 units over the last three years, two, two and three quarter years.

And our business grows, like for us, this is a nice thing, like the proofs in the pudding. We, so we keep the secret ingredient off the website and off the packaging for obvious reasons. We say brain supreme proprietary mushroom blend or we say active ingredients. and everybody gets it because of podcasts and our affiliates and so forth. But so on Shopify, we have about the single highest conversion rate and repeat customer use of any supplement out of four million businesses on Shopify. They had a review session with us.

Like, whatever you're doing, keep doing it. We were in the 0.4 top percent. So 66% of people who buy Brain Supreme once become a subscriber for at least six months. As you should. As you should. It works. And that's like so, like, that means like something's working. It's working.

So, you know, the mushrooms will tell you. And then I have people who are like, I love you, but I'm not feeling as much. I'm like, pick a month off. Take six months off. You know, like, I'd love to have your business, but like, I want clean and good business. You know, I, we, that's just. Well, and to listen, right, like the, as a coach, because you coach as well as me, you were, one of the major things that a coach ought to be doing is reconnecting their person,

their coaching to their own intuition. Yeah. Because I know better for my life than anybody else does, right? You know better for your life better than anybody else does. And I feel like there's a point, you know, after onboarding where it's like, hey, it's your job now to fucking listen to your body and have the conversation during meditation. Have the conversation at the end of the night with yourself. Does this continue for how long?

Is there more to be done? Am I full? What am I feeling right now? And just check in. And these are excellent tools for helping us to check in, especially. for people who don't claim to have any intuition or who have lost that ability to connect to themselves. I love this shit.

It works fucking wonders. It is truly one of a kind. It's in a category one. That's why you guys have that, you know, response from shop. It's in a category one. I will say, you know, having run twice the brain healing protocol, which I love, and then for it was probably 2015, I did it with LSD microdosing rather than psilocybin because this didn't exist then.

but read Jim Fatiman's book, The Psychedelic Explorers Guide. And it's a phenomenal book. The whole thing's on microdosing. A lot of it's done with LSD microdosing, but psilocybin microdosing as well. And the potentials there were mind-blowing. And so, you know, we ran that. I did every fourth day for three months and loved it. My wife didn't.

At the two-month mark, she's like, I feel like I'm losing track. With LSD? Yeah, of time, reality, with LSD. I said, okay, just cut it, just cut it. Now, psilocybin is a different substance, right? There's a grounding cord to it. It's an organic substance. It's a different, even though they're very similar.

And so I haven't felt that way of psilocybin either. But I did enjoy that run. Now for me personally, I fall in the category of, you know, once a week or twice a week. So that when I do it, it's wham-o. Like, I'm a full-on effect. Right when I take it, I know what to expect. Typically, that's going to be on a kickboxing day or a sparring day or if I'm learning something new from Connor.

And so this is kind of one of the, the things I don't want to get into. Connor Milstein's been on this podcast. He lived with Jordan Burroughs, our most decorated wrestler in U.S. history for the last two years leading up to the Olympic cycle. He's been my trainer for over a year. He's a David Wet guy. You're a David Wet guy. You guys were co-captons a football team together in high school. It's fucking wild. So crazy. And I loved having Weck on the podcast. You know, Bo Suball Inventor. He's a category of one guy, right? And Connor's one of his greatest students. So when I'm introducing the body to new things that I'm not necessarily good, I have no experience with,

and I want that onboarding process to go smoother, cellicide and microdosing makes that so much more accessible and so much more easy to build off of. Like when I hit the second workout, everything fucking clicks. You know, like it might take me a few sets to actually get like, oh, you want me to come out of a lunge to an overhead press, drop my arm, then go out to a lateral lunge with a fucking clean, and then clean it back up out of the lateral lunge,

back into my backward lunge, and then press out of that backward. I'm like, dude, this is like, foreign to me. Yeah. I'm used to like pick the weight up off the ground and drop it, you know, that kind of shit. And so, um, getting my body to getting out of my head first and foremost, but then letting my body, you know, learn these new patterns while, you know, stacking it with substances like this has made a world of difference. And so one of the things that I want to talk about because,

you know, we, we have, we're dads, right? We got kids. And we think about, I think about performance for these guys. I think about some of the mistakes that I've made and some of the ways I do it differently and you know what is the miracle modern science what do we have access to now that we didn't have access to when we were kids yeah and um you know really really just thinking about that and i just lost my mind here on this lost my train of thought here you were going on with kids and i think you were leading to microdosing in kids and your thoughts on that i didn't want to talk about microdosing for kids but uh thinking about with kids with the move oh what are the different ways in which we increase overall intelligence yeah so this is where the kid picture comes in right and so

I told you this on the phone. Lumosity was the famous brain trainer that had come out. And everybody was like, oh, this will make you smarter. It's brain training, right? It's like this app sold fucking millions of apps because people wanted to enhance their brain, right? Rightfully so. Okay, I can just play these games and it's going to make me, you know, make my cognitive function increase. And so after a while, after picking up enough steam, third party people were like, let's see if this actually makes you smarter.

Right. You know, next you makes your cognitive function increase. And what they found was people who had become really good at Lumosity were really good at Lumosity. Yes. It did not translate to anything else. Right. And then they asked the question that we would want to know, especially for our kids, is what does increase cognitive function in all directions? What does help the brain work better in all ways?

And if I'm remembering this correctly, it was learning a second language, any music, any musical instrument. and then movement that requires balance and diagonal access points. Cross-artigilation, yeah. Cross-artigation. So you think about that, like everything I'm doing with Connor and Weck, that's all cross-patter movement that's getting into, you know, all different shapes and sizes and putting myself in different positions. Jiu-Jitsu is one of these things, too.

Like, you want to take out all the fancy terminology. Like, you go to Jiu-Jitsu, like, that's going to put you in new positions and strain you in ways you've never been strained before. That's going to increase cognitive function in all directions. The same as music. Now, microdose with those things, and that's the shit that I want studied. I want to see this studied where what is it like to, you know, category A, does music three days a week and learns the new instrument, having never played music before.

Category B takes 100 to 500 milligrams of psilocybin three days a week while learning the new instrument. Let's see the differences between those two categories. That's the shit. And so, you know, as a self-proclaimed guinea pig, I'm going to run that test myself, you know, and I'm going to do it with piano. So I'm really stoked on that. This is also where pickleball comes into play.

Because ball sports work a different type of hand-eye coordination than other things. As slow as that wiffle ball moves, it can move pretty damn fast. And you're playing with somebody that's mad decent. And if you're up, you know, if you play up close to the net, it's fucking whizzing by, you know. And it's not too hard on the body. Like we're bigger dudes. It's not like running an ultra. Like your legs can handle it even though you're on a hard surface.

You're getting short little bursts, you know, five, six yards in each direction, three yards, change your direction. And there's so many positives in what that sport brings to the table with very low cost and very low barrier to entry. Right? Yeah. And so I think about that. And I'm like, this is something that's accessible for a lot of people. For guys like myself, I can speak to the fighter community and say, here's what you want to X, Y, and Z. This is what you should do.

And these guys can do it. But the vast majority of people I'm coaching, even if they're already in shape and they just want to improve, they're not able to access some of the shit that we're able to access. Yeah. And if they do, they might get hurt. It might not be a sustainable practice for them. They might need a six-month ramp up to be able to do some of those things. And so I love pickleball for that very reason. The fact that, you know, a sedentary person can get on the pickleball court and start working

their way into it, gradually increasing and getting better and better. And it's not just training them physically for fat loss or, you know, better coordination. It's actually helping the brain in a significant way. Yeah, it's also community. I mean, you play with three other people. So, and you've got to make a plan and you're accountable to your partner. and the people you're playing with. So in every marker for mental health and emotional well-being

and basically being a successful life, it's good, you know. You've got community, you've got accountability, you've got movement, you've got cross-articulation patterns, you've got eye-hand coordination. It's great. Yeah, it's doing all sorts of good shit. Yeah. I have so many cartilage tears, meniscus tears, and I'm like, I still haven't gotten into it because planning and cutting, like, I'm just...

I would honestly, your WEC stuff would help you more with, with that than anything else. Yeah. And I didn't, I didn't think that was the case, but with how much, how much time Connor has me hang out in the bottom of a lunge,

that alone. And, you know, Steve Maxwell, who's in his 60s, he was one of the first white guys to get a black belt from the Gracies. He was on Tim Ferrissus

a whole bunch. He's an RKC kettlebell sport master under Pavel Tatsulin, uh, black belt in jitzae, as I mentioned. You know, he's just a skinny,

you know, old fart. He was strong as a fucking wire. And, um, He's got a lot of things. God damn, my brain again. What are we just talking about?

Well, we're just talking about regenerating the knees and so forth. Generating the knees. So one of the things that he's big on is this static stuff, iso holds, right? And so when you get into those positions, especially good for kids too, because the pounding for kids pliometrically is not perfect until they're done growing. That's when they can really ramp up and take that to the next level. Whereas the static holds builds build strength through that. I mean, we saw the knees over toes guy blow up because of this, right? well, isometric lunges and things of that nature

we were holding on the bottom of that lunge at varying degrees build stability in that, but it also helps the knee. It helps lubricate. It helps build the strength around the knee the same way knee or his over toes does. And to that effect, I feel like all the lateral movements and these holes

have made my knees so much stronger over the last year that it makes it easier because after my final fight, I went in for an MRI, and the doctor was like, I don't understand how you walked in here. And I was like, I just fucking start. strolled in. There's no limp. There's nothing. And he goes, he goes, I've never seen somebody

with less. You are the most bone on bone I've ever seen in the leg. And are you in pain? And I was like, I get in pain if I eat bad. And I'm not in pain right now because I'm not eating bad. But like my body will signal from the neck break, the broken jaw and the fucking X, Y, and Z. If those old injuries hurt me again, that's because I'm eating like shit. If I'm eating clean and my inflammation is down, even if I beat myself up in the gym, I don't feel pain in those areas. But all that to say, you know, The Weck Method stuff, the Connor Milstein stuff. Yeah. All that lateral movement, things like that, I think it's just spending time in those

positions that greases the groove on it and then you're going to be fine. Yeah, no, I got the, I have to still shoot my son and I still have to shoot the intro videos for Connor so he can do it. I've been, I've been delaying, but I've got to get to it. Yeah. Have you taken your test yet? No, I've got it. I've got to do all that. Oh, buddy. Well, for people that want to try it, a phenomenal test that Connor Milstein will have you video and watch when you do your, your thing. It's a basic test. It's nothing crazy.

It is 30 seconds of jump squats with a quarter turn. Yeah. So you quarter turn, each jump, you know, you drop yourself down to a parallel squat, pop back up, quarter turn, and you go all the way around, and then back around the other way for 30 seconds straight. You have 10 seconds rest.

They need a 30 seconds straight of jump lunges. And the jump lunge is not meant to be a super high explosive Jay Schroeder, you know, Adam Archeletta, 40 inch vertical where you get as high as you can, it's just meant to that you catch yourself softly. So just high enough to be able to switch the legs

and catch yourself softly at the bottom of the position. That's 30 seconds on, 10 seconds off. 30 seconds of push-up, 10 seconds off. And then, you know, for better athletes, he'll have you do 15 seconds of sit-throughs, which is, you know, from the push-up position, just kicking the leg and then popping back. That workout is under five minutes,

and it will fry you in a way where, like, you know like I mean fried like the first time I did it I was like oh my god you know like I I feel ashamed that this got me as sore as it did but it's an ass kicker and it shows you know you will he will start to see what's breaking down which hip which knee which ankle what is the part of the body that isn't effectively integrated right now and so you can run that test yourself and videotape it and watch and see oh which knee is fucking shooting way out or caving in you know which toe will not allow me to plant and and push out of at the bottom of that lunge.

All those things can become made available. And if you have somebody as intelligent as Connor or David Weck, they can point those things out to you and integrate it. Yeah, for sure. No, I'm looking forward to doing it. I got to do it. Phenomenal, brother. Yeah, cool.

Well, dude, we've covered so much here. Let's talk about Max Stack because I feel like this is a, you guys created this product. It is as a guy who worked in product development on it for years, creating supplements. When I read the ingredients list is like, holy shit, dude, this is legit. And I told my wife right away, I said, make our car, because she hands,

the coffee, as I say, make the coffees taste good, because this is unflavored, make them taste good, but figure out how to make them taste good with the max stack. I want a scoop in yours and a scoop in mind, no matter what, every day we drink coffee. And it didn't take more than a second with her, you know, dealing with the organic honey and that kind of shit. But it tastes phenomenal. I don't even taste it in there anymore. But the effects of what you guys have put in that stack are unreal. Yeah. Like, it is like, it's right away. I was like, oh, I need to take this daily. Like, this is a phenomenal, phenomenal supplement. I'd love for you to break down. and what was it like creating this?

What was the why behind it and what is it best used for? So I'm in a perfect scenario with the way my brain works because I'm not really like a details. And I'm a very good follow-through guy from like relationship, friendships, and honoring my word and so forth. But like I chef for years, but I'm like a lunatic. I run in the kitchen. I don't need measurements.

It's just all intuition and so forth. So I can come up with ideas and I have a partner who I just fire the ideas to. So, you know, our first product was genius. And then then feel good. then feel good and then athlete and then black stack. So basically, you know, traditional microdosing. So we did that for a while and I was like, what if we made a product without the secret ingredient

that's every known ingredient that complements a micro and a macro dose? So we started to really throw ourselves into research of what complements a micro and a macro dose. And I just tasked my partner with that. And he basically spent like the better part of a year just researching every single ingredient that benefits a microdose. microinacros. I'm like, now let's throw them all together and let's, in a base of ceremonial cacao and cilin, so it's basically mushrooms, adaptogens, aminos, and cacao. So those are the three

categories that really benefit of micronacros, and they're a great way to start today. So we have a base of of ceremonial cacao and cilon cinnamon. And you have to use cilon cinnamon when you go higher because all the other cinnamon, Ceylon cinnamon's the true cinnamon. Oh, shoot, there's a chemical in other cinnamon that if you go heavy really degrades the kidney. It's not good for the kidney. Yeah, begins with a K. I'll get it. But Ceylon cinnamon has none of that. So you can go heavy on Ceylon cinnamon. And blood flow, prostate health, heart opening, cinnamon's amazing. Helps of blood sugar management as well. Yes, for sure. So in a base of ceremonial cacao and Ceylon cinnamon, that's the C. We have a blend of four functional mushrooms. This is what's amazing. So we do all our own formulation

and manufacturing. I had a friend of mine who's like probably as successful in the supplement space as he's been on the podcast you know, actually Sean Wells. So you know him,

I know him. He's a very good friend of mine. And we were talking one day about where to get really quality fish oil and says, just ask you manufacturer. And I'm like, I don't have a manufacturer.

I have a partner in a facility. He's like, you manufacture yourself? I'm like, yeah. And I was like, because I'm new to this game. And he's like, nobody does that. I'm like, but how can I control every step? Like, how can I put the love and the intention and the sourcing, like, everything that matters? And we had this moment of pause on the phone.

He's like, Adam, you're fucking awesome. But it was like, I'm like, don't, doesn't everybody, just like, no? Like, hardly anybody does that. Everybody goes to the private labelers. And there's some very quality companies out there. But like, we just moved into a bigger facility. We grow our secret ingredient mushrooms. We grow.

And then we're growing like half a dozen other mushrooms right now, too. So we grow our own mushrooms. We're biogeometry. air filtration, water filtration, light, crystals. Like, we're throwing everything at a prayer. Like, we do everything for our products and even the ones we source, you know, blah, blah. So in the base of Ceremonal Cicah and Ceylon Cinnamon, we've got four functional mushrooms in there. Chaga ratio cordyceps lines main.

And then we have about 18 different amino acids, minerals, and adaptogens that are all in there. So it's like it is the most comprehensive. nuke your coffee or replace your coffee formula that's just on the market. Like, no one's even close. And no one's even close with the quality of sourcing that we do because, you know, we grow our own and we're, and you know this from other stuff we're going to like really, really meticulous about how we source. So we left it unsweetened. It will be a little bitter in the finish. It's very potent. I've cut my coffee usage in half. And I do, so I do. Same, actually. Yeah. So. I wonder why that is. Because there was a point where I was just like,

I don't want, I remember having the conversation, like, my brain couldn't wrap my head around. I was like, I need less caffeine and coffee, but I still want a full Mac stack. And she's like, oh, you just want me to serve you in a smaller cup. Yeah. It was like, it was just like, oh, yeah, that's, I guess that's all looking for here. I still do a bit, I still do a big honker of like probably 20 ounces or so.

But I, are you in a decaf or just more water? What I've started to do is, do basically I blend 60% of a French roast, a dark, with a 40% of a Swiss water process decaf. So I do like a, I'm pretty meticulous of my coffee. 6040. So I do like a 60, 60, 40 calf to decaf blend. And I just start doing everything in the blender. I just throw the coffee in the blender. I throw the mac stack in the blender. And then I put some raw honey and some heavy cream. And I just blend it all up for, you know,

45 seconds. Let it sit for about another two minutes. And I just pour it through a strainer because all the all the all the max stack ingredients will completely you know just um what's strained then what's see pour it through a strainer what's being strained then the coffee grounds oh the grounds yeah i just do it i don't do i don't even do a i don't even do a french press anymore i just throw everything in the vatic that's like some savage camping shit i just throw every we gotta we got put it all in together yeah if you buy like a if you buy like a cone shape a little like a fine like a finer grain strainer yeah yeah yeah it doesn't even need to be that just a fine, just a finer strainer.

You just pour through the strainer. The cinnamon goes through. All the mushrooms and everything go through completely. It catches the grounds. And then, you know, there's a little bit of that Turkish grind with the last few sips, but I kind of like that. Yeah. That for me is like, you know, you should get some fucking hair on your chest, son.

Right. That's what that's wrong. And just, you know, some people love the bitterness. Others will need to do a little sweet. So I've experimented with everything. It all works. I mostly do raw, local raw honey. but I'll do maple crystals, maple syrup, sometimes coconut sugar, you know, probably like a tablespoon,

and that totally smooths the flavor out. And the way it works synergistically with your microdose is amazing. It's amazing. The feedback's been amazing. It's an expensive product to make. Well, you guys have the kitchen sink. It's a kitchen sink product. Yeah.

I mean, it can replace a lot of other supplements. There's very few companies that come along that do that because of the fact that there are ROI is going to be less because they're putting so much into it. You have to charge a lot just to fucking make a little. Yeah. You know, whereas like other products that have less, you know, main ingredients would have a greater return.

And I mean, I was shut down and on it multiple times wanting to create the very best mitochondria stack and them saying, you know, oh, hey, this is, we're not going to make anything on this. And I was like, I don't care.

Make the best product. Yeah. Sell it for what needs to. And qualia has done that in a lot of ways. Symbiotica has done that in many ways. You know, good buddies with Cherveen, the guy founder of their company. And then now the MacStack, I mean, I'm looking at this and just reading the label, I'm like, this thing has to cost you guys a lot because you guys are putting therapeutic doses.

It's not like a microdose of all this shit. You guys have a whopper of any of these ingredients. And you're saving time from having to put 24 different bottles together to create it. You know, I would defer to you to ask you this question. But I find that there's like a synergistic effect with the Macstack and the microdosing where it's like, because I do, we have a scooper in there. So basically, I think it's 15, 15 milligrams. So a full scoop is like, yeah, 15 grams, sorry.

So a full scoop is like 30 grams. But I find I go like two thirds and I get like all the efficacy. You can play with these things. Right. That's in the experimentation. And then, you know, fitness guys, especially like you, like you're probably going to do creatine a little later. You're going to do some other kind of smoothie. So you don't have to hit everything all at one.

But I find that I'm set up, man. I do that morning coffee. I don't need to eat for hours. My workout's great. My flow state and attention. So feedback's been really good on the product. So it's been. It's awesome.

And then you guys, we got, we are short on time here, but you guys have a Sheila jeet that you're about to lunch right now. Tell me about that. So I had a guy in the Netherlands who saw me on the Chase Hughes. It's like he's a fan of Chase Hughes. And I did a podcast with Chase Hughes. And he reached out to me.

And it turns out he's a distributor. he makes so basically here you can play with this open it up too so she legit is incredible comprehensive profile of minerals and and full vacinacin and homevegazin and so forth five five or six five or six but she legit is gross it tastes like tobacco tar it sticks you got to break it it takes time you got to break it down in hot water and so forth and so what mountain caviar is is it's they managed to create a self encapsulation process. So it encapsulates them, it encapsulates on its own. So you're just taking these caviar pellets. It's the highest quality. There's no actual shell around that. That's just shielage. It's a self-encapsulation product that they, that they have a, or patent pending on it out of

Europe. So they distribute Brain Supreme for us in Europe, and we're distributing their shilogid here. I'm not going to put many other products on the Brain Supreme website besides the ones that we make. And this was a great opportunity for European distribution, because shipping to Europe is so expensive. And his product is like, I test the product. It's super high quality. My kids love it. It's going to blow up too because it's so easy.

You get all the benefits of super high quality, Himalayan Shilajit, but it's just in this self-encapsulation form like these little caviar pellets. So we got that coming on the website. We have a secret menu club now, which, you know, that kind of, I think people can read between the line. So they can join the, through the Brain Supreme website, just reach out. And we send them an invite to the telegram group. So there's a lot of good things. Work on our new product called Dog Supreme,

where we're going to make, like, the most comprehensive. Because they do all the animal studies, they do all the psilocybin animal studies, and we're like, you know, it's incredible for all these animals. I've been microdosing my dogs forever, and it's great for their health and well-being and neurocognition. So we're going to have a, we're working on Dog Supreme,

which is going to be like a, it's going to be like MaxDack for Dogs. Cool. It's going to have, you know, a little microdose in there, and then it's going to have everything else nutritionally to kind of help. dogs, functional mushrooms, asphal ganda. We're like, we're kind of, we've got like 20 ingredients that we're going to kind of parse down from and so forth.

That sounds awesome. Yeah, it's going to be. I got a 14-year-old Chihuahua Shih Tzu who has scared us more than once on if it was going to be the end of his life. But, you know, he's got a pep in his step again. He's blinding both eyes. And like, maybe it'll, maybe it'll fix his vision in a way, you know. It'll be a fun thing to check out.

Mm-hmm. You'll have whole morning meditation conversations with him. Yes. I don't know about that. But actually, I did. We have a puppy. We have a new puppy. And it's a giant schnauzer,

which is a German breed that's like a traditionally police dog, guard dog breed and everything. But they're good with families and they don't shed. But I haven't had a purebred before. And it's like, well, I had a husky growing up. That was a long time ago. But like purebreds are different, man. Like they're genetic wiring.

And I did have this one moment where I was very early in the morning. And the dog is, we're not, we're doing a decent job. We're not doing an extraordinary job. Because you have trained these dogs like every day for a time period. And we're so goddamn busy with, you know, my expression is if you cook your own food and fold your own laundry, like how much time in the day is left. Yeah. And you really care about your kids and your food and all that stuff. It takes a while.

So certain things, you know, you don't attend to. So the dog's been a decent amount to handle and it's quite spirit. And I was doing this like morning meditation because I've heard that dogs, their soul, adopts to the family soul. That the soul of the dog kind of, it gets complete with the human souls that it's around. So I was in this space in my meditation, like really, you know, praying for Shotsie and visualizing this soul meld. And then I do a little powder in the dog's food when I make their homemade food up and everything. And just as I was like in that thought, the dog, I felt this thing climb up my chest and started licking my face. And I'm going to go.

And it was early. It was like 6 a.m. There's Shotsie. So maybe it works. Maybe it doesn't work out. Oh, no. That's awesome. But they know.

They're impasse. I mean, that little dog has been any journey. any deep journey work that I've done at the house, he will plant himself right on my wife's lap every single time. You know, he knows. And then even before we knew we were pregnant with Bear, he would sleep right next to her womb. He would snubes a little spoon, you know, right next to her.

He'd normally sleep at our feet, and then all of a sudden he just starts snuggling up right by her womb. Cool. Super cool. And so he did that the whole pregnancy, and then the second pregnancy he did with Wolf, and we had that was a homebirth, and he's there all concerned, you know,

in the bed, he's licking her face, He's like, God, you got to get him out. I'm sorry, you got to put him out. It's like, okay, I'm like, come on, buddy. I put him out and I shut the door. And right when Wolf came out and howled, she cried, he held. He never held before. Like, never held before or since.

Wow. But you held. And you named your child Wolf, too. Uh-huh. Yep. And that was a full moon. It was Fourth of July in 2020, smack dab in the middle of all the crazy shit. All the planets are on one side.

I don't know what it means, but it was interesting. Wow. That's great. They know. They know. They're tapped in. Yoganana talks about that, too. when a soul is ready for human incarnation,

a lot of times they will become, not an animal, but a pet in a house where they're drawn to the souls of the family members, and then that makes it easier as a bridge coming into human form in the next round. I was like, that'd be fucking cool to have, you know, see them in the spirit world. They're like, you were our dog, no fucking way.

That'd be pretty cool. Yeah, that's a good one. That's good. Well, dude, it's been excellent having you on. Always, where can people find this stuff? We'll link to it in the show. coming on as a full-on sponsor. So I'm super excited by that. So yeah, we'll go for it. We'll have the KKP discount up, 15% discount for all your listeners, for all our products.

And yeah, I'm super excited to partner up with you. I'm fucking stoked, dude. You guys are the best. Thank you so much, Adam. All right, brother. Love you, man. Thank you so much.