LadyGang - Alix Vs Alex

Episode Date: April 15, 2026

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hello hello hello you're not used to hearing us on a wednesday are you So we had to call a town hall because things are getting spicy and, you know, there's a lot of people out there giving their opinion on what's happening in the world. But we know that our takes are the most important and the ones you're waiting with bated breath to hear. Jack, what are we going to be discussing today? OK, if you've been on the Internet at all, I'm sure you've seen glimpses of this. it is everywhere on social media. It is the battle, the battle between Alex Cooper and Alex

Earl. And if you don't know the lore behind all of this, I'm going to give you a timeline so you can be like in the loop up to date about what's going on, because this is a really big deal. This is a big deal. There's a lot of people getting involved. There's a lot of people putting their noses in. And we do have a little bit of insider info. We have a lot of insider info. Now, will I get sued? You know, but I have thoughts. I have insider info and I have my own take. Yeah. But first, give us the jackstivate, investa jacksation. Jackstivation. That sounds sexual. I know. Okay. So I want to start with a timeline because I feel like you can't understand the current like situation that's happening without kind of going back

and understanding how everything started, how they got inserted into each other's lives, etc. So Alex Cooper, if you don't know, she is the host of the Call Her Daddy podcast. That is how she got big. And we're going to go back to 2018. 2018 is when she started Call Her Daddy. She had a co-host in the very beginning. It was Sophia Franklin. And they had their own massive falling out that we'll get to in a second. But that's how Alex Cooper started. They started in 2018. A month after that first episode, it was acquired by Barstool Sports. Dave Portnoy is the owner of Barstool Sports, who we'll also get into in a second because he has inserted himself into everything. 2020, Alex Cooper and Sophia Franklin. Why is a man here? I know. Because he just can't

help himself. No. Well, he's also very funny and doesn't give a f**k. And like he's it's it's great. So 2020, two years later, Alex and Sophia have this massive feud, a huge falling out, And they end up splitting ways. And a big reason was because Sophia Franklin's boyfriend at the time was a suit man, was allegedly trying to get involved into their new deal. They were signing a new deal. Were they going to stay with Barstool? Were they going to leave? She was getting an outsider perspective from his boyfriend. And apparently Alex Cooper was like, no, no, no, we're not letting men. decide. Why is a man here? Right. Why is a man here? So they have this huge falling out. Somehow, some way, Alex Cooper keeps the IP of Call Her Daddy and Sophia is just hoisted to the side and gets nothing. I don't know how that happens. I don't know how it just goes. We have to wait for the book. We have to wait for the book. Sophia Franklin is also doing a tell all later this year that we have talked about before. OK. Twenty twenty one. Alex signs a Spotify for 60 million

2023, Alex starts her Unwell Network. And the funny thing about the Unwell Network is Sophia was the one that actually coined the term Unwell and they kind of used it in the zeitgeist of Call Her Daddy. And now Alex is using it for her own network. I always thought that was interesting. 2023, August, Alex Cooper signs her first pod to the Unwell Network.

And that's Alex Earle's podcast called Hot Mess. It was the first one. Ooh, good detail. first podcast in August of 2023. During the same time, they're hitting the town together. They're hanging out all the time. They're doing all these

like press things together. They were best friends. Allegedly, not allegedly, but you know, like, yeah, to the public eye. September 20th, 23, Alex Cooper has Alex Earl as a guest on Call Her Daddy.

Now, I never listened to this, but from what people are saying on Reddit, it was kind of uncomfortable. Alex Cooper is trying to push Alex Earl into talking about sex, which she doesn't really talk about. she's obviously noticeably uncomfortable in this interview. And people just kind of clock that as being like pushy and weird. Now we're going to 2025, the Super Bowl. This is kind of where it

starts kind of heating up. Anuel is doing a lot of events at the Super Bowl in 2025, but Alex Earl is noticeably absent from everything. And you would think if they were like besties, they would be together. They'd be doing all of these things together for the Super Bowl. At the very same time, Alex Earle has a Super Bowl commercial for Carl's Jr. It airs at the Super Bowl. It's huge. Everybody is talking about it. She's a smoke show. She's so hot. She's eating that juicy burger. The titties are up. And I mean, that's like a huge deal to have a Super Bowl commercial, like massive deal. So also noticeably at the same time, they share a publicist. Her name is Kate Bailey. Do you know who she is, Kelty? Yep. Oh, you do too, Becca? Okay. I don't know who this

woman is. But she was first Alex Cooper's publicist and they were best friends. They were like hanging out all the time, like not just like work friends. They were like besties. And then Alex or Kate Bailey also signs with Alex Earl. And this is before she gets her Super Bowl, Carl's Jr. commercial. So there's a lot like, I don't know, like what's going on behind the scenes. How did she get her the Super Bowl commercial? Did Alex Cooper want it? I don't know. Yeah. Then we're going to fast forward to a couple months later in March of 2025 Alex makes this big post about how she's putting a pause to the podcast in the foreseeable future she's not going to be podcasting she's vlogging she doesn't want to get into the details yeah but make sort of like vague

references that like something was happening under the surface and then Alex Cooper responds saying it had nothing to do with her Alex Earl is keeping all the IP yada yada yada then there's like some back and forth about like Alex Earle making like subtle vague hints about, you know, something happening. Anyways. I'm looking at my notes. I have something to add here. Hold on. Oh, yeah. I want to say that I want to say it was, I can confirm sources. I don't know what I'm saying. I can confirm sources that I asked someone in the business about the business of this, And they said it was an option. It was Alex Earle's option to continue or not continue.

So this is correct that Alex Cooper did not fire Alex Earle. It was Alex's, Alex Earle left on her own. It was her option was up. And as we know in podcasting, that can be for a lot of reasons. If she wasn't making enough money, like, you know, the great, when we had our network, you sign the biggest stars and you hope that the show's become a hit, but you can't even the biggest, most great sparkly person on the internet can have a flop podcast. So it, you know, Alex was not, in my opinion, Alex Earl was not a fantastic podcaster. I think I prefer her as a

vlogger or on TikTok. Like the podcast, it's not for everybody. Um, so, you know, for whatever reason, her option was up. Does she want to stay at Unwell? They, it seems like she was like, I don't want a podcast anymore. I'm going to go now. Do I think that she was treated particularly well while she was there where she was like, oh, this is the greatest place to work. I'm going to keep going. No. And if her option was like this, I'm out. I'm not having fun. This seems like this is what happened. But it was Alex Earle's decision to not pick up her option. Well, and there is not fired um she had posted like a cryptic tiktok in august of last year um just kind of like you know like vague posting about alex cooper and somebody commented saying yes tell it tell us what happened

with alex cooper and she responded how much time do you have so she's putting out there that there is something underneath the surface not just like she wanted to leave like something is obviously happening okay yeah so that's all your backstory about what's going on now we're going to fast forward to Friday of last week. This person on TikTok, the Bravo mom, that's her handle. She makes this TikTok about Alex Cooper and she calls her an ambulance chaser. And she says, quote, it's like you had the most horrific accident of your life hanging on by a thread. Don't know if you're going to make it. And she's the first one there. She's the grim reaper. She wants to be there when you're vulnerable and broken down and you're ready to sign over

your rights to your life. She's profiting off of women's heartbreaks and failures. That's not girl power. This post goes viral. It's like has so many millions of views. And it was one thing of her posting that because it's like, oh, damn. And then Alex Earl reposts the post. So that is like co-signing that she agrees with her opinion. So this is where shit is kind of going nuts. It's crazy. And I want to say this is exactly what I said a couple of weeks ago on this podcast. You cannot be both. I'm sorry. As someone who's worked in entertainment news, the reason Call Her Daddy is so big is because Jesse gets divorced. She's going to announce her divorce. You go to this PR platform that's massive to tell your side of the story. her call her daddy is the new people magazine I'm sorry it's what it is and as someone who was asked to stand outside Becca Tobin's house the day her boyfriend died when I worked for an entertainment news show I know this is how they get ratings like this is the job being an ambulance chaser

is the job and it's why so many of these celebs go they think they're going to the safe place by going to these podcasts now but it's essentially entertainment tonight rebirthed you know what I I mean, it like but you again, I said you cannot be Oprah and also Nancy Grace. Like you cannot be both at the same time. That's so good. That is such a good reference. It can't be women's empowerment. I'm going to help you.

And like it's hard. It is a very hard line. Here's here's the listen, I I'm not particularly a fan of this person, this platform, whatever. She can spin this and say she gives these people an opportunity to get their side of the story out before. So it's like Jessie knows that her soon-to-be ex-husband is going to plaster negative things about her. So Alex could spin this.

Her whole team could be like, we're the place they go to be able to get their story, their side of the story out. And it's exactly the same thing I said when I made Josh Duhamel cry when I was interviewing him after his divorce from Fergie. Right, right. I'm not the bad guy.

Like, I'm sorry, I've done, this is how I sleep at night. I'm not the bad guy. I'm just giving you a position. If you don't want to say anything, you don't have to come. But if you want to tell your side of the story, I'm here. Like, that's how we sell it to you when we want to make profit off your own drama in your life. Well, the difference there is that Josh Duhamel

did not agree to have that conversation with you. These women are agreeing to have these conversations. Right, right. No, you're right. You're right, you're right. I'm not saying, listen, there are a lot of parallels between like old school sleazy Hollywood and what we have here. But I don't think she's going to be taken down or canceled for except for. Being an ambulance chaser. Right.

For the way she books her show. Yeah. For other things. For other things. Yeah, yeah. For other things. I think it's just like the biggest disconnect. And we had talked about this on the other, when we talked about her last, where it's like, it's the Barbara Walters, or not Barbara Walters, the Oprah and Nancy Grace thing.

where it's just like and and this is happening also with like the tv shows that she's putting out and like the things that she is allowing on the tv shows where it's just like either you're like a girl's girl and you're platforming women for like the greater good or you're doing these salacious things for the clicks and the views like and there's intention behind that so like where's your intention going because it can't go both places right i think that that's the biggest problem with how she's positioning herself. So Alex Earl reposts the Grim Reaper ambulance chaser post, okay? Then a couple days go by, and I think that this is so funny with the timing, okay? Last weekend was Coachella weekend. Alex Cooper and Alex Earl were both at Coachella.

We know Alex Earl. She is a party girl. She is going three days on a bender. I don't know if she's sleeping. I love her so much. And the timing of this is funny because Alex Cooper on Monday morning, the Monday morning after Coachella, where Alex Earl is probably so hungover, not even awake at 9 a.m., Alex Cooper posts this video directly calling out Alex Earl. She tags her in the comments and she is speaking like directly to her. She's just in a hoodie, kind of like hanging out on a patio. And she's basically like, sup, Alex Earl. I've seen all these passive aggressive posts that you have been making. And her whole point of the video was like, basically, you just need to get specific. What happened between the two of us? There is no NDA. So come on out and

say what happened because I didn't do anything, basically. And then she says, quote, I'm really tired of waking up and using this fake drama to distract from the other shit that's going on online for you, which I think is interesting because like nothing's going online about Alex I'll tell you what it is. The pump, the pump in her moisturizer didn't work for like 100 people. And there's shea butter, which is poor clogging in her acne line. That's what's going on. And people were very upset about the shea butter. It was a whole thing. And then the doctor came on and was like, sometimes shea butter can be good for your skin if you have acne. Anyway, I don't think it was like it's not a level 10 drama that she needs to distract from. Well, I would say if anything is going on online drama for anybody, it would be Alex Cooper. So with everything going on with the TV show in Dakota and all this shit. So that was weird. So yeah, she posted this on a Monday morning. And what I think, dude, there's this girl, that little detective girl on TikTok. She was saying how Alex Cooper's nails were bare, like she didn't have any nail polish on. But then there was a picture from her from Coachella the night before and she had red nails. so it's like she probably recorded this last week and was waiting for the timing of monday morning to post it that would like with alex earl the most so that's weird maybe she just didn't want to ruin her coachella yeah just kidding so then obviously everybody was like

oh okay number one this is so out of character for alex cooper because i with any scandal that's going on between her, she just kind of ignores it. And it's been sort of like pushed underneath the rug. So for her to directly call out Alex Cooper and know that it's going to be this massive deal is a choice. So she posts this. Tons of people are commenting. Comments are being deleted in real time. Any comment that's negative about Alex Cooper on her own video is being deleted. And then do you guys know who Brianna Chicken Fry is? Oh, I do. But tell me. So Brianna Chicken Fry is a barstool girl I love her too I think she's super just like honest and raw whatever um she was the one that dated Zach Bryan that he broke up with her and tried to get her to sign a million

dollar NDA and then he went and married a girl that is her exact twin which that's a whole different story so Brianna comments ew which is like a big thing because she also knew Alex and she I don't know if she knows Alex Earl but she's in the barstool world she has a lot of mutual friend. So that's like a big thing to comment you on that. I couldn't find the comment now. So either it's deleted or she deleted it. But anyways, Alex Cooper's deleting comments in real time. Then a couple hours goes by. Alex Earl comments on Alex Cooper's post and she goes, OK, on it with two exclamation points. So now it's like this shit is on. And as of we're recording this episode on tuesday at 11 a.m less than 24 hours then we're putting it out maybe

something will happen since then but as of now that's kind of like the last that happened on their posts except for dave portnoy the owner of barstool sports has now inserted himself into the problem which inserted i don't he's very involved i mean they were both alex earl was a barstool girl before she even got famous because she's from jersey he's known alex cooper forever so he makes a video yesterday um on Tuesday or on Monday just being like I think I know what the problem was I think it was something with like the Carl's Jr. commercial like I think Alex Cooper really wanted it but then Alex Earl got it and brought up that Kate Bailey girl and yada yada yada then he makes another video like an hour later that he like deleted I think which was

kind of weird but he was basically like I called Alex Cooper after I posted this video asking like how was it? And she said, if you had a gun to my head, $10 million in a bag, I would have never done that Carl's Jr. commercial. I think that's a very bold statement to make because I'm pretty sure she would have done it. Like to say you're so anti this Carl's Jr. Super Bowl commercial is something. Bold. Bold move. Cause you know, anybody would have taken that. Actually, no. I have some insider information. Go, go, go, go. Yeah. Okay. So this is actually the I have two things I need to say about Block and Bridge in a moment, but it's about the it girl thing. So I wait, can I say the one last thing about what happened yesterday? And then

we'll go into thoughts and opinions. So Dave posts these videos about that. And then today, Tuesday at 11 a.m. He posts like another story and he was like I've been talking to somebody that's very close to both of them and you know what she said I thought was really interesting and then he screenshots this DM and he goes but I don't want to ruin her reputation because you know she's already pissed on me or something like that. Then he screenshots for like one millisecond this DM and I screenshotted it at the right time because I got it and it was from brianna chicken fry and she just says she's gonna destroy her so i'm assuming that means earl to cooper um and that was that was the last thing that i have seen from any camp that's talking

about this story but yeah do we think this is a publicity stunt and alex earl is going to be on call i asked my sources this and they said absolutely not thank god okay so this is so genius if everybody on reddit is the only reason i don't think it would be is because alex earl has like publicly hated alex cooper for the past couple years i think it would be a really weird way to have a publicity stunt unless they made amends behind the scenes made amends they squashed their beef and then they're finally like but i i here's what i'm sorry but this also looks so bad on alex cooper because now literally all the conversation is like team Alex or team Alex and everybody all of the comments are how much their team Alex Earl and

how shitty Alex Cooper is like I think she's gone kind of you know she's made it through unscathed and done some sort of sketchy things a lot of sketchy things throughout the past couple years and everybody's been scared of saying something about it everyone's been scared of saying anything and she just opened the floodgates that's and so I don't think it would be for a publicity stunt it's not a publicity stunt. I will say this. I, okay. First of all, this is classic PR block and bridge. We call it a block and bridge. So block and bridge is when people are talking about something that you do not want them to talk about. You block it and then you lead them to a new conversation. And I will just tell you that I did a little investigating. And as

Someone who has had two failed television shows, I feel okay reporting on this. All nine episodes of her new dating show, Love Overboard, were released. And after 14 days, each one was averaging about 600,000 viewers. The second lowest programming on all Hulu titles. The only thing lower is Vanderfroon Villa. But it is lower than Washington Black, Futurama. girls on the high bridge mid-century modern jfk like and every one of those goes into like the millions yeah 600 000 views on anything like we had more than that on lady gang tv and we got

canceled so that's not great second of all uh the unwell winter games on youtube has a 5 out of 10 rating on imdb the initial viewer reception was highlighting chaotic entertaining drama but some mixed feelings regarding the cast, obviously. They're saying that there's a lot of influencer fatigue and people feel very baffled by the production of the show. So here's the thing. Wait, did you get the downloads on that? No, I didn't even look.

I didn't want to give them a download. But I'll say this is that right now, there they, oh, and then as my three part, I was recently in an event with someone who was very in with Target and I was saying I was complaining about how, you know, ads have been down on podcasts and it's really influencers are down and deals are down. And I said, the only person I can see that's doing it really well is Alice Cooper, because she has all these huge viral videos go and you have the unwell drink. And this girl who's very in with Target in the same world turns to me and she goes, well, I was just with the buyer at Target and they said unwell drink is doing very poorly at Target. so we have three things that are not going well for this like big, like super girl. Now I want to be like compassionate here and say that she's got, she has done more than we will ever do in

our lives. Like the fact that she's trying to produce TV shows and make drinks and host a podcast, like hosting a podcast is hard enough. And there's a part of me that wishes she just would have stuck with that because I do think like, obviously that's very successful, but I think they came in and her team came in and they were like we want to make this like such a big brand and sell it off and so they're trying to be everything to everyone and that is what's causing this like you know this downfall in a way but here's the thing you have three things that are not going well right two big tv shows and this it's the first time really in her career that the thing is not working out unwell vegas you know was okay didn't wasn't a superstar event

like people thought it was going to be. And so now everyone started to talk about this. They're like the demise of Unwell. Oh my God. The Dakota of it all on Unwell Winter Games. Everyone's like coming for her and she's like block, bridge. Let's talk about something else.

And so this is like actually- But it's not good. It's not positive. But she didn't know that. She didn't know that. I think this is all just karma. I don't think this is, I think that this is way worse

than her having TV shows that bombed. When your TV show bombs, that's not a that's not a reflection of you as a person. That's like that's just happens. All TV is bombing right now. So it's like I would be just as an optics, I would be far happier to discuss that my show didn't do so well, as opposed to the entire entertainment industry is about to tell all of my dirty secrets and say why I'm a horrible person. back to my insider information okay i do believe that alex um alex earl possibly had the first faux pas i believe which is what well here's what i think happened okay this is also not source information this is just from the timeline i think that alex earl signed to the unwell network and when you this is very kelty of alex cooper when you sign this person you think oh now they're on team unwell right like across the board and Alex Earl started not going to the events like I do think what you said Jack about the Super Bowl is like just because your podcast

is signed with unwell doesn't mean that you own me for me to be in your Instagram or for me to go all your all your events and I think she actually started getting the ick and started feeling like they were using her at things like that were not contractually obligated and so she stopped started not showing up. And then I believe that the, uh, manager, and I mean that by manager, like the, the husband and the dad, cause Alex Earl's dad is a beast. He's like a Kris Jenner. Okay. So I think Alex's team and daddy Earl went to war on what the deliverables actually meant. And I think that might've been the first thing that really split them. And then I will say this, I know from having, and I will share this at some point in my life, I was in a deal

with Alex Cooper on a project and dealing with her team. And what I learned is that she actually does say no to everything. I am not, I would not be shocked that the, she never wanted the Carl's Jr. commercial. I, she's being offered everything like Dancing with the Stars, Traders, like they're offering her all of that and she's turning it down. She is, will not take a deal. She does not want it because she's making so much money on the podcast. But also like she really I think they really see her as a very serious like they really do see her as that Oprah of Gen Z and that anything that goes into just being a celebrity, they say no to. Like this girl's turning down half a million dollar, million dollar deals all the time for stuff, which is crazy. But then you can't be mad when Alex Earl says yes to the thing. Right. So like she says yes to Carl's Jr. She's the hottie. She says yes to Dancing with the Stars. America falls in love with her.

Like, you can't be mad that the younger, hotter, cuter girl comes in and does the Hollywood game better than you. Because they have kept her, they've kept Cooper so on this pedestal of, like, that's below her. She's this. And, like. That's a mistake. I have a theory. Lost the plot on what makes someone famous and relatable and lovable to the American. I have a theory.

What is it? This is just my gut. Just came to you? Yes. It did. I hope I'm wrong. I think that the people pulling the puppet strings on Alex Cooper, they are not going to benefit from her being outwardly in the public eye, dancing with the stars, sexy, Carl's Jr. Think about it. She's married. Carl's Jr., my husband may or may not be thrilled about me being in basically a pasty. Would he like the $10 million? Yes, he would.

He'd take it. He'd suck it up. But like, I think there may be someone on Team Alex Cooper who wants to keep her behind the scenes, but capitalize on something that she has built. Because the more she gets out there dancing with the stars, all the things, the more likely she is to blow her life up. And you know what I'm talking about. And you're talking about the husband. Yes. He is a genius. He doesn't want to get her around other men because maybe she would want...

I don't think it's men. I think he knows that what she has is... She has created something very powerful, right? But he also, maybe if he's a bad person, wants to keep her very contained in that as well. So she kind of remains the Wizard of Oz by not going out, aside from her podcast. That's the only forward-facing thing she's doing.

But if she were to go do sexy dancing on Dancing with the Stars, go do traders world opens up it's not even about it's about losing the cash cow that she is and not being able to but can i say this wait let me say i want to say something it's on top of that i think it's also she gets to control what she puts out there about her personality and about what how people view her yeah once you're putting once you're entering something else where you're not the editor and you're not the ceo of how people perceive you then there's an issue like Like, then people can—and also I will say that Alex Earle is so likable. She's such a naturally likable person.

She comes from a good family. She just seems so fun. Like, I want to hang out with her. This is the thing. And nobody feels that way about Alex Cooper. This is what I'm saying, is that Alex Cooper is—she's a little bit of a K-type. Like, she doesn't actually want to go out. She's not a party girl.

She's like, you know, when you wear a black dress to the Golden Globes— I think she is. No, I don't think she is. I think she wishes she was. I think she wishes that she had the seven enneagram of her Jack Vanek where she was like that girl. But I think she's a homebody. I do think and that's why she had so much success with Call Her Daddy because I do think she's that girl who wants to be in her home, not go the fuck out, be in her sweatpants and make her little make her little make her massive show. Right. I think all the Hollywood shit like she's like a little bit of a she doesn't want to do that. And so then Alex Earl is the opposite. Right. And she like loves that. Like she's going to go be at Coachella for three days and not sleep. And so but you can't be mad when the girl like there's always going to be a new bright thing. And it's very heartbreaking. And I know we've seen it with Lady Gang. Like you think you're the shit and you're like, oh, my God, we got this TV show at this clothing line. Like we're that bitch. And then there's like a new podcast. And then Giggly Squad comes and you're like, what? We were that girl. Like, you know, and it sucks, but it's the same way in music. You're Madonna and then comes Mariah and then comes Ariana and then comes Sabrina.

Like there's always a new hot thing and it is fucking destructive when you are not the new hot thing anymore and you don't know what to do about it. And I would also be very upset if when I was the hot thing, I didn't get to have sex with Tom Brady. I know you don't use your fame to the full potential. instead she did what she did and she's probably also a little salty that she didn't capitalize on being the hot new thing and having the opportunity right to bone babes but I think the thing is is that like you you have to be like you okay so you this is a bad example but you know

when Usher found Justin Bieber Usher was like a pop star and he found Justin Bieber and then Justin Bieber became the biggest star in the world you have to be happy for that person that you discover. So if she's going to put Alex Earl on the Unwell Network and then Alex Earl is going to blow up, you have to be excited that this person has blown up. But like as a woman and as a twin, like I think there was there's something going on there where like they are not happy for each other and there's a competition, which they basically are twins. Like this makes complete sense that there would be competition. All the comments on Instagram, you guys, I actually did put something together for us to enjoy was my favorite comments underneath some of this

Instagram posts. Let's go read it. This is my favorite. I genuinely thought they were the same woman until now. I'm so sorry, Alex's. And wait, hold on. This is the other one that I love. Whoever loses in Alex versus Alex has to dye their hair brown. I heard that they're actually one of the big fights was over the trademark for Big Al's. I heard that too. I heard that too. Wait, I do want to say, wait, what was I going to say? Oh, I was going to say something about her signing her to the network.

There is like all of this talk about, you know, it's like keeping your enemies closer. And if she had control of Alex Earle's podcast, she could always keep it beneath her. And there is something that happens with any podcast that signs to her network. It just goes away. Doesn't do well. Yeah. I think we know people that had podcasts there that like, you know, it just wasn't a friendly working environment.

And I think that it was like, you get so excited because you get to join the Unwell thing. And then like, you have an Unwell show and they don't invite you to the thing in Vegas. Like, that's so weird. Like, it's like, you're either in or you're out. You know what I mean? And so it's, it's, listen, running a company is really hard. We had a network on a very small scale and it was brutal. It's so difficult to produce other people's shows. That's why there's like three networks doing it. Also, I think this very interesting Hulu versus Netflix. I mean,

there's so much, you guys, there's, there's so much here. You know, our old showrunner from Lady Gang TV is going to be the showrunner of Alex Earle's new show. Oh, really? Trish? oh she's gonna have all the dirt and trish is also the showrunner on freaking summer house god she's making good tv i texted her last week and i said if there was one person in america that i could drug and make them tell me all their secrets it would be you right now i got some i got some like hot tea not gossip just like perspective of somebody who's like actually knows these people, has been in the world for so long. And she's also such a level headed, like observant person. So it was interesting. But I'll tell you this. George

Clooney, one of the biggest movie stars in the world. I know he's an old, old guy, but he has this saying, never complain, never explain. And I think that where we've made a mistake, Alex Cooper, and I have a lot of respect for what she's built, is that she's on the cover of fast company talking about like being this business girl and then also doing like a very embarrassing instagram post in like a fight with another woman like if i had 125 million dollars i would not be doing that on instagram i would just be going and framing my fast company ad and being like this speaks for itself like you can say whatever and the thing is is that like again, I think Alex Cooper and the company possibly have been quite mean to people and

have been hard and cutthroat and like maybe acted like a man would in business. But like coming from a female, it feels weird. So I just want to give her like the respect of like it is very hard to be a female in the entertainment business at the helm of millions and millions and millions of dollars. And I think that we got it wrong a lot. And I think that's what the legs that Alex Earler was going to stand on. But at the same time, like, just have your fast company. Be on the cover of Fast Company. Like, just be that girl. Let Alex Earl go to Coachella and hate you a little bit. Like, don't get involved in the petty shit. If like petty shit is for us, you know, that's why you're not. But you're telling you're telling me that Kelty, even if you were in that position,

you wouldn't also do the petty thing. It's a it's a I would Alex Earl it all day. She would do the quiet, petty thing that nobody would know. I would do the quiet, petty thing, the passive aggressive thing all day. I would like, because again, like Alex Cooper is giving very them theory right now, which is just like call people out on their bullshit and make them explain it to you. But it's going to backfire because knowing what we know behind the scenes, like I know 10 people that have a horrific Alex Cooper story or Alex Cooper camp story. Like it's either directly her or it's the people working for her and how they've made these bad, hard decisions and played it so hard that they pissed a lot of people off. And now everyone's going to come out of the

woodwork being like, here's my story of when she was awful to me. That's why I can't imagine it's a PR stunt because it's like you just too risky for her. I do like that somebody said. I think she was crying in the closet and had a countdown and no one stopped her and like they should have stopped her because this is going to backfire in a way because now we already had Sophia's book coming now with Alex and then I you know other people on the network and stuff their NDAs are gonna end and they're gonna say their story too and the thing is it's like it's okay it's okay that you were a bitch but you were a bitch allegedly someone said white on white crime never gets old I mean I'm here for it okay we could talk about this all day uh you guys wanted

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