LadyGang - ALLEGEDLY WASSA HAPPENING: Alix vs Alex, Wendy the dog and Polymarket
Episode Date: September 10, 2026Keltie is off-Broadway (kind of), Taylor and Travis have a dog named Wendy, and Nikki Glazer told the greatest wedding story of all time — involving a stolen cake topper and a Tom Cruise in...tervention. We also get into the Not Skinny But Not Fat Polymarket ad and where the line is on sponsored content, Phaedra and CT going public, and Alex Earle's Hulu show + the Alex Cooper of it all. Also: a formal request that dads stop discussing their daughters' boob jobs. 🎧 Listen now.Check out our amazing fall sponsors!K18: Start reversing hair age in 3 months! Shop at Sephora or get 10% off your first purchase at k18hair.com with code [LADYGANG]Draft Kings: Download the DraftKings Casino app, sign up with code LADYGANG, and spin your way.Nuna Baby: Need a car seat for your little one? Visit NunaBaby.com or head to your local Nordstrom!Clean Simple Eats: Shop the best tasting protein powder at CleanSimpleEats.comSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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It's time for a quickie.
Podcast One presents The Lady Gang.
The Hollywood Girl Posse with Lady Gang Quickie.
Here's Kelty Knight, Becca Tobin, and Jack Vanek.
Let's make this quick.
Hello, hello, hello. Welcome to Lady Gang Quickie.
I'm Becca here with Jack and Kelty.
Quickie!
Well, it happened.
Dallas Cowboys cheerleader star Reese Weaver made her Broadway debut,
and they showed us a little bit of it, and she was adorable.
Yeah, we knew she was adorable.
She was so cute.
I have nothing to contribute to this.
Well, I just wanted to let you guys know it's Tuesday and we're recording this.
Tomorrow night, I will be making my Off-Broadway debut in the Spelling Bee on Off-Broadway.
I'm flying to New York tomorrow morning and I'm the guest speller.
So I just allegedly, Reese Weaver and I are both on Broadway this week.
Wait, what is it? A Spelling Bee?
Okay, there's a show Off-Broadway called the blah, blah, blah, blah, blah Spelling Bee.
Putnam County Spelling Bee.
Yeah. And they do this thing where they have like a guest speller.
like Hoda Kotb did it. Heather Morris did it. I'm trying to get Becca to do it maybe when she's in.
Oh, no, it'll be closed. It's closing soon. Anyway, they I've been trying to shenagle a
guest starring role on Broadway, the actual Broadway in anything. I was like, can I be a
backup dancer in Ann Juliet? And they're like, yeah, yeah, we're trying. We're trying. And then
they came to me. They're like, we have something for you. And I was so excited. And then I realized
it's not really a Broadway show, but that's fine. So anyway, they pull a speller out of the thing.
I'm going to go on stage. I'm going to try to spell a word, which we know I'm going to fail at.
And then they put you back in the audience.
But anyway, you get to be on their Instagram, which is really exciting.
And I will be adding it to my resume.
That's cute.
I think I've seen clips from this.
And I always wondered, I was like, what the f*** is this?
But now that, I guess, makes a little bit more sense.
That'll be fun.
Cute.
I know, I'm really excited.
Okay, I want to talk about some things.
Allegedly, what's happening?
Taylor and Travis, they confirmed the dog.
And the dog is named Windy.
Like Wind or Wendy?
Wendy, like the Wendy.
Oh, Wendy.
Like Wendy.
Like Wendy's.
Wendy's chicken nuggets?
Yes.
Wendy.
Wendy, like a Frosty.
They're saying Wendy, like.
Me too.
Like the Windy City.
Okay, well, confirmed that the dog exists or has a name or confirmed what?
We didn't know.
Remember, we were talking about it.
We saw the dog on the plane at the wedding and we're like, is it their dog?
It seems like it is.
And then Travis's Tommy Hilfiger campaign came out and he's modeling with the dog.
And then they announced that the name is Wendy.
Okay, cute.
I have a problem with all white dogs because I think their eyes and their buttholes are never white.
Yeah, because they're black.
No, some white dogs have fine eyes.
Is it just the shiskoos?
Shiskoos?
No, I think it's just case by case.
And like, Orly did not have a black butthole or black eyes.
She didn't have like the brown tear eyeballs?
No.
Oh.
No.
But I know what you're saying.
It's a tough, it's a tough, tough look on a white dog.
It's like buying a white t-shirt and there's always a little bit of makeup on there.
Yes, it is.
It's like a white t-shirt.
A white dog is a white t-shirt.
When do you think that they're going to like show anything from the wedding?
on the one-year anniversary.
Do you think she's coming out with like a DVD,
a documentary or something about it?
Obviously, they filmed it.
It makes some money.
They filmed it.
Maybe it'll be a music video.
That's what John Legend did.
Remember when he married Chrissy Teigen
and they had, oh, me.
Oh, that would actually be cute.
Something like that.
Yeah, she's gonna, she's not an idiot.
She's not giving it away for free.
She's using it to break a record
to become the most streamiest,
most sellable-est, most, like if she...
It's definitely coming next record cycle.
I'll tell you what, if she does not win the Oscar, which she probably will this year for
I Knew It, I Knew You on the Toy Story movie, it's going to be nominated for an Oscar
as best original song.
And then she will have a Grammy and and then she's going to do a life story at musical
social.
Like she's got to be an EGOT.
That's like one of the only things she hasn't won.
so I could see her doing something Oscar related like a documentary something in with the wedding
stuff to get Oscar if she doesn't win the Oscar well she shouldn't wait too long because we all
know that like wedding dresses age pretty poorly these days so she's gonna already be sick of her
wedding dress I can't imagine it was you know it probably is a little dated dress anyways I'm
assuming you know I was actually thinking about you Jack um the other day when I was on TikTok
talk I don't think that you fully I think by the time your wedding happened you were so stressed
and over it from the planning I don't think you fully monopolized your wedding footage the way
you should have on the internet because we got so much pre-wedding yeah try on 900 dresses I'm
trying out like there were so many details like those in flags and that like that we never saw
that I know you have footage of.
So I think you should go back and rebirth it
and do like a details of my wedding.
Would I change it or not now?
I know there is.
And you're right.
It's like by the time it happened,
I was like, well, everybody's over it for sure.
I kind of want to forget about it for various reasons.
Not because I don't love Jared,
but I, but yeah, there are a lot of details.
But now there's somebody that I follow on Instagram
that's in their wedding era.
and God damn, it's annoying.
I can't imagine how,
you know, I had to mute them
on stories and posts
and I'm like,
I can't imagine how annoying
I probably was
for that period of time.
You know?
I think it was fun,
but like you didn't give us
the payoff.
Like I'm willing to
come with you on this ride
of you trying a thousand dresses,
but that feather dress
that you wore
for the rehearsal dinner,
I saw one photo of it.
And I barely wore it.
I wore it for like two hours.
Yeah, but like I know you took,
we took a million photos
and videos of it.
We did not.
get that payoff for these things at all. You're right. It's really honestly disappointing.
Well, I'm in a lull right now for social media. So maybe soon. Thank you. I'm not going to ask
Becca the same thing because she's the one that looked at me after her first dance ended and
turned to me and she said, can I go now? Her own wedding. And I don't have my wedding photos.
Can I go now? Can I go now? It's hilarious. I don't know what that noise was. Okay. Next up,
One more wedding-adjacent thing.
Nikki Glaser.
You know, Nikki, she's never getting invited to anything again.
You know they have the craziest NDAs for this wedding.
She went to the Taylor and Travis wedding.
Yeah.
She was on, like, Seth Meyers or something this week.
And nobody's talking about the wedding.
When they get asked about it, they're being like, we're just so happy for them.
Well, Nikki Glaser's telling an actual story from inside the wedding.
And she's going to get, I don't know, is she going to get sued or?
Was the story having anything to do with Taylor and Travis or just her?
Her experience.
So she tells this story of like at the end of the night, she went up to the cake and
there was a Taylor and Travis cake topper, but someone had stolen the Taylor already.
Someone had taken the Taylor.
And so it was just Travis up on the cake by himself.
And she was reaching up.
She was like, I'm taking Travis.
So she's reaching up to take the Travis and someone behind her says, no, no, no, I wouldn't do that.
And she turns around and it's Tom Cruise.
That is amazing.
I'm like, this is the best story that's come out of the Taylor-Travis wedding.
If I'm Taylor and Travis, I'm not mad you're breaking the NDA.
Who the has the Taylor?
See, I think what they should have done, they should have let people leak more stories.
I think like little, yeah, little lore like that, it keeps the conversation going because
I don't think anybody's talking about her wedding anymore.
I forgot it happened.
Me too.
But then also now we know there was a cake.
Now we know there was a custom cake topper.
Like, this is so interesting to me.
Who stole the tailor?
Who has it?
Where did the Travis end up?
Did like the cleaning stuff at MSG take it?
Did mom take it?
Maybe Tom wanted it.
Maybe.
Honestly, Tom probably took it.
But the fact that she got berated and it's Tom Cruise behind you is just.
God, I love it.
She literally was like, I don't even know I'm invited to this, like, whatever.
And then she's just f***ing around.
Like, Nikki, God.
I love it.
That's amazing.
You're just that girl.
Okay, next thing.
I don't know if you guys are interested in this.
I'm very interested in, did you watch last season of Traders with Phaedra and CT?
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
Okay.
This is the best thing that's ever happened to me.
So, Real Housewives of Atlanta star Phaedra Parks is officially in real life dating challenge star CT.
they were on the traders together and CT is like a big bro normal looking jersey dude
and Phaedra is a glam queen who had like a full bead of makeup in every challenge they seemed like
cute friends on traders but they just walked a red carpet together at the Emmy Awards and
confirmed that they are like in love I think it's so cute they were so cute on the traders like you
could tell that they had like a little something going on, like whether it was like just a little
flirtation, but there was something there. So I love pairings like this. I think that they're so
genuine and I, I don't know, I'm just obsessed with them. It's really cute. I love it. They're
very, I would have never in a million years put the two of them together. I picture him with like
a Hooters waitress. Me too. No, like with love, but like he doesn't seem like he could get a
glamorous, sophisticated lady.
There's more than meets the eye with him, you know?
For sure.
And he seems so sweet.
He does seem like a sweet guy.
And he's obviously very smart
because he does so well in these games.
He's like an undercover...
FBI.
Catch.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I love it.
Okay, when we come back,
we are going to be talking about Earl Meets World
and also Polymarket ads.
Long story short,
Becca talked about the air wash,
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then we all started talking about the air wash. Then we linked it in the Facebook group and you
guys sold it out. And then everyone now in the Facebook group is saying, what's the thing? And
then KTN was like, well, we'd love to be sponsored with the podcast. And we're like, well, we already
sold out the air wash. And they're like, let us show you our new product. So you can talk about
that. And we are two months into future IQ, which is this serum that you put on your hair when it's
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things where we're going to tell you like, Hey, this really works, but you have to do it every
night. So you have to be consistent. And then it led me to think, can we be consistent girls?
I don't know if we can. It's, it's so hard because everything feels very inspiring at the beginning.
Like when you're trying something new, you're like, this is going to change my life and I'm
going to do it every night. And then I feel like it always falls off. Yeah. I feel like the only
time I've ever been able to be consistent is when I have like spent a ton of money on something and
i feel like guilt needing to do it but i did find the solution for myself when it comes to all i'm
like there's there's something happening in my life where if it's not in front of my face i forget
to do it yes so i just i this product in particular i'm very proud of myself because i've been
consistent because i just leave it on my counter well we're trying to get rid of your grace and
that too but it's like i just if it's just on my counter i don't need to spend eight million
dollars on something to make myself do it it's simply it just needs to sit there in front of
my face and I don't need to be so OCD about putting everything away all the time. I agree
out of sight, out of mind. Obviously I'm taking prenatals and I have to have it on my coffee
table or else I won't take it. Like I can't have them put away. And then I've also started
water flossing and same thing. It's too big to put away. So I have to have it right next to my
toothbrush. And I think if it's, you're doing it and adding it into a routine that already exists,
it makes it easier. Not a whole new one. And I started doing the same thing. We got fooled by
those home edit girls that everything needed to be in a labeled bin, put away, lovely style. No,
you know what, you know what your sink area is for? It's for your night routine left to right.
So it's like, I have my floss out because sometimes I get lazy and I want to floss.
Sorry. So gross. Sorry. Um, I have my floss out and then I have my little rings and then I have
my retainer. And then I have a jar full of like the retainer things that you have to put into
clean your retainer. Then I have my eye serum to grow out my eyelashes. And then I have my eyebrow
serum to get my eyebrows to not fall off when I laminate them. And then I have my, um, then I have
my, um, little roller. I have like a face roller thing. And then I have my future IQ and it just
goes and like, that's the only way I'll remember. Yeah. That's so true. But I'm also really trying
to wear sunscreen on my chest. I know it doesn't look like it in this video. Cause I'm very tan
right now. I'm also trying to text people back in a good amount of time. I'm also trying to
talk to people on the phone more consistently and I'm back on my Pilates grind. Ooh, she's
doing it all. Yeah. I'm trying to text people back less. You're so consistent. I love this for us.
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is very hard to be a public facing person, no matter what you do. And we over the years have
been offered some polymarket ads. It's very well funded. I will say this, like when you do an ad
like this, it is at the top of the pay grade. So I can understand why someone would want to say yes,
But Not Skinny, Not Fat is a podcaster. She also just got this big Hulu show. And she did a sponsored ad basically about the Clancy trial saying, you know, is she going to be guilty or not guilty? Obviously, this trial is about motherhood. It's about postpartum depression. There's a lot of pieces to this trial.
Sensitive topics.
very sensitive topic and also like maybe not something we should be betting on like i think
it's funnier like i get the idea that polymark was trying to do and they what they asked us to do
which is like do you think travis will bear a white suit to his wedding or a black tuxedo like
shit like that is fun this is like kind of messed up you know i mean there is nothing more up than
this let's be honest three children were murdered and if you're betting on that in any sense of the
word. It is deplorable in my opinion. I just think what's interesting is I had a friend in
entertainment call me and they were like, oh my God, do you think Hulu's going to kick her out
of the Hulu show? Because it's one thing to be a podcaster and sort of like a cultural commentator
and say whatever you want and get in trouble and get canceled and get brought back and all this
stuff. But when you work for these big corporate companies, it's very much like more of an HR.
Liability.
Yeah, your liability.
And he said something interesting.
He said, no, I think she'll just continue to win.
And it's, you know, like, I'm not wishing anyone poorly in their career, but I remember, it's just like, man, oh, man.
It just, I don't know, people stay winning.
People will forgive her.
Well, you can feel an apology.
And she's going to keep getting all the jobs.
Well, I think that she's I think that she showed who she was the moment she talked shit about Jack on the Internet, like, you know, which was a long time ago, by the way, I have known this for a while, but which she like hated your what she was mean to you.
Jack was posting pictures about sorry, I'm hijacking it, but no, go ahead. Her pictures about like, you know, what versus reality, like body acceptance, body neutrality.
Like she was really going, Jack was really going in on this because it's a topic that she deeply cares about.
And she wants the girls following her to think that she's not like a flawless supermodel and that she herself has, you know, she was posting, you were posting pictures where you had like a little bit of like a butt dimple or like, you know, where you weren't, didn't look like a Victoria's Secret model.
Right. And then posting the one that you finally picked.
That's like you found the perfect pose.
Yeah.
Yeah. Which a lot of people were doing, by the way.
It was a big thing.
That was like a whole thing a lot of people were doing.
and then she would she just like took my video and posted it on her page and was basically
like shaming me about it and then it became this whole thing yeah it was jealousy because
her her basis of it was like you're not even you're not allowed to post this shit because
you are perfect like this is annoying that you're doing this because you actually are and
she would at the time was I don't know it came across as just jealous just jealous and hateful
and whatever yeah there was a lot to it um but i it is interesting seeing this and then the apology
um because it's one of those things that should be the most like black and white thing of something
that you should not be doing um but i am interested you don't think she's gonna get
nothing's gonna happen with that show i don't think so i mean i don't know i i just don't like
I think we've actually moved past the, like, you can cancel people area. If this was 2022,
it would be a huge uproar, getting taken off, losing all your brand deals, like all this stuff.
But I just think it's like, there's just so much thoughtless behavior out there now that it's like,
listen, we've fucked up too. I'm not saying we're perfect. We've, we've fucked up a hundred times,
but it's just like i don't know it's like now the profession like it's like the same thing as all
these red carpet influencers where i'm like you can up and do a horrible interview and not have
even watched the movie and not know someone's name and make it awkward for them and like it's
just kind of like ha ha ha like nobody really cares you know yeah there's no like actual
repercussions yeah like you know it's it's an interesting time so we'll see what happens i just
don't understand like that I see sometimes where people take a money thing and you're like it's
probably not like the best thing but it's money grab see a money grab I could see where you're
like she's a mom she has kids like she's supporting her family and like you have scarcity mindset
you're like this opportunity is never like this kind of money is never gonna but this was something
that was like so black and white like well and she had also made a post like before it happened
like this like a long like white text on black background post that was like i think trying to
soften the blow that would come after of her talking about the lindsey clancy thing and then
that happened so she knew she even knew because she was preemptively posting
like a sense like something thoughtful about the trial yeah yeah so she knew that it was coming
which is even worse that you're like you know it's bad it wasn't like a moment Kelty with with
all due respect I could see someone like you I know you're gonna say and I agree not even thinking
about it not even thinking about it like I know when you have those lapses it's not because you
even for one second thought something bad about it.
Like, you know what I mean?
But because she like already was putting out premeditated,
premeditated offensive behavior is, it is.
It's just like, what a bummer.
What a bummer.
And you are also about to be on this Hulu show.
So it's like, you also couldn't see for yourself
that you had good things coming.
I could see you like us right now where we're like,
oh my God, we're f***ing drowning.
And we have to take what we can get.
She's about to, she's going on the bigger mountain,
like she's climbing the mountain still.
So it's just like crazy to me
that she would have such short-sighted ideas.
It's wild out there.
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Okay.
Last topic of the day.
Did you guys watch Earl Meets World?
I did.
What'd you think?
Me too.
I mean, I love her.
I think she's so cute and so just earnest.
Was it like a show that was going to change the world?
No, but I liked it for what it was.
Like it was an easy reality show.
Her family is really interesting to me.
And I thought it was cute.
I think it did its job.
Yeah.
And then you get the Alex Cooper tea.
Yeah.
And well, I just wanted to give a shout out.
What I like about Alex Earl is that she's on the show and she's like,
I just don't know how to respond and like I'm kind of scared and this is weird and then she's
on the premiere carpet like she just she just Hollywooded so well that she's so good you can't
help but just clap for her because you're like okay this whole thing happened whether or not
she even had a good reason to hate her or not irrelevant she made us wait until the show so
she was like oh I'm not going to be writing back to you on TikTok no no I'm going to use this to
my advantage and then she's at the premiere of the show and people ask about like the journalists
are asking her about it and she goes well she goes um she says something so cunty no she was
like well her shows are getting i'm just i just want to focus on my show because her shows are
all getting canceled or something and it was like so cunty like quick i don't even think it was a
prepared answer i think it just like it just slipped out and it went everywhere and you're
just like damn shots fired again like it's just it's really good you know listen i don't know how
sleep at night like this seems all very stressful to me but like you're feeding the children like
you gave us an entertainment news story that we can now latch latch on to and you know it's a the
reason is exactly what I thought you know it and I said this before it's impossible to not be not
be a podcaster but to be at that level and not prey on people's stories like it's you're the
new entertainment news which is you're an ambulance chaser like this is the basis of the brand you've
made now is to get hot stories and ask hard questions. And I just thought the most telling
thing was Alex. And we've had this conversation so many times and had this happen so many times
on our podcast where someone has comes on and they say something and they're like, you know,
in the moment I was comfortable with you, I said this thing and like, I'm very uncomfortable with
this. Will you take it out? We always take it out, you know, even after it airs and they forget
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about her sex life. And she was like, I'm mortified. Like, can you take it out? We took
the episode down we took it out as soon as we could like you know but her well the problem was
is she got her drunk and then asked her all of these very sexual questions when she was like
yes but not whatever whatever it was but then she was like i felt really uncomfortable i think the
problem is she went into this very naive and earnest and like because she has a good family
she thought that she could trust somebody else that was coming to her as sort of like a mentor
type of a figure. And I think that she, yeah, she was just a little bit too green in the situation.
And then Alex Cooper took advantage of her and then f***ed her over. And again, well, thoughts
on Alex Cooper aside, like, Alex Cooper's doing what's best for Alex Cooper and her brand, which
is, like, to get the headlines, to get the hottest influence in the world talking about doing anal
sex. Like, that's what she's doing. She's a business. So, like, and then, you know, Alex,
again, what you're saying, like, is naive to think that this person had her best interest in mind,
but also like that's hurtful so now I can see where the fight came from you know what I mean
because they both don't think they're wrong and they're both a little bit not wrong but like
they both were in the game for different expectations like Alex thought Alex Earl thought
oh this person's going to mentor me and they're going to turn my podcast into the next call her
daddy and instead she was like here's a mic film it on your phone we're not giving your producer
do your best and she did her best and it was not good she needed a producer and Alex Cooper's
trying to make money and be successful like it's it's an interesting anyway well I can't wait to
watch it's she's cute I mean it's fun because you're watching her fight with Alex Cooper and
then you're also watching her crazy ass dad be like hey why is the snapchat numbers down and
then you're watching Alex like be in love with Braxton and like it basically the whole show
ends with her just being like calling him sadly and being like do you ever think we could get
back together and the whole series ends with Braxton just going oh Alex I know well you know
they're not together because I just saw him on a date with somebody else on Dumont last night
heartbreak anyway this was good tea tea by the sea tea by the tt portney portney also I just I did
see the headline that her dad bought her half of her boob job for her like can we can we I'm even
if that is true she i need you to never say that ever but so many dads buy so many girls boob jobs
but can we not talk about that like i don't think we should it's like the brooks nader dad in this
topless yes we just can we just separate separate boobs from dads like jenny jenny mullen got
dragged dragged for making a very clearly a joking post about like her son and you know he's
this is his most toxic toxic relationship she was like hugging him on a bed anyways people like how
dare you sexualize like blah blah blah blah blah like she got dragged well i i also think that we
need to stop even if it's true or not like please can the dads take the creep factor down
Like, men are creepy, unfortunately.
The creepiest you can be is Jack's dad
with a camera in our faces on stage at Lady World.
He is not creepy.
Right, because that's not creepy.
That cares about me.
That's dedication and caring.
Dedication and caring is all we want.
Like, if I went to my dad and I said,
I just want my boobs done.
I want my boobs done.
I want my boobs done.
Like, my dad would find,
even if he wanted to support me
in like whatever the thing is that I wanted,
he would find a way to like maybe give me gift me money to say like hey this next chapter of
your life like you know i want to give you 10 grand to like set you up don't say it's for half
of a boob job like don't you talk about my titties don't you dare i don't like it gross
it's too weird all right we weren't here for a long time we're here for a gross
creepy booby time. Bye-bye. Bye, guys. Lady Gang is hosted and produced by Kelty Knight,
Becca Tobin, and Jack Vanek, with social media support from Kali Carrera, audio and video
editing from Jared Monaco, and additional support from Steve Delameter and Podcast One.
Lady Gang, it's Kelty. I would love to see you on my book tour this fall. It's going to be
a really cool, intimate chat. I'm going to do celebrity moderators, music in some cities. I'm
going to do a little self-help talk, and then we're going to do a personal emotive writing
session. I just think it's going to be really special. If you've come to a Lady Gang show
before, it's probably going to be a little less chaotic, a little more like getting yourself
together before the new year. Tickets are 35 bucks, and they include a signed copy of my new
book, The FM Theory. I'm hitting Atlanta, Washington, Boston, Philadelphia, Chicago,
New York City, Toronto, Canada, Seattle, San Francisco, Los Angeles, Austin, and Dallas.
And I would love to see you. Tickets are available now at fthembook.com. It's 35 bucks. Come out and
see me for the night. It would really mean a lot to me to see some of my lady gang girls there.
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