LadyGang - BSB @sphere, Valley Szn 2 + the Candle Cold Call!

Episode Date: August 12, 2025

The LadyGang is larger than life this week as we deliver our official, highly scientific (read: wildly biased) Backstreet Boys review. Then, we spiral into the chaos of cold-calling strangers after buying a candle (because why not?), unpack the shocking revelation that Chris is a full-blown “jeans man,” and accidentally trauma dump in the middle of it all. It’s a little boy-band nostalgia, a little retail regret, and a whole lot of oversharing—just the way you like it.We have summer deals for YOU!!Ollie: Your pet needs good food! Take the online quiz and introduce Ollie to your pet! Visit Ollie.com/ladygang for 60% off your first box of meals! #ToKnowThemIsToLoveThemQuince: Elevate your fall wardrobe! Go to Quince.com/lady for free shipping on your order and 365 day returns!Macy's: Check out Macy's Big Home Sale thru August 13th! Shop in-store or at Macys.comApretude: Prevent HIV! Talk to your doctor and learn more at Apretude.com or call 1-888-240-0340Progressive: Wanna save on car insurance? Visit Progressive.com to see how much you can save!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

well what is this welcome to the lady gang that's amazing say that again the lady gang things are about to change around here each week we catch up with hollywood's hottest girl posse kelty knight becca tobin and jack vanik hello hello hello welcome to lady gang i'm becca tobin we're jack vanik and tonight night. Good morning. Good morning, everybody. Thank God we are together. I have so much to talk about with you. Oh, well, did something happen? Yeah. No, I mean, there goes the Celsius. Kelty, I am done with seeing you do this. This is an intervention. Yeah, this is my first. This is I doesn't matter. We should have zero morning. Zero. You went through a health journey. Okay.

You had your uterus removed. This is a tough love moment I'm giving you right now. okay okay but i can still drink it fine i'm not not today what i do not agree jack all the all this stuff coming out we've already is they're not sponsoring us they don't like us and so we can talk about it can't we i think we can but here's the thing coffee i can't do i'm not doing coffee anymore neither am i i know the ick the coffee ick i've been doing a black tea from starbucks with a pump of vanilla in it every day that is not enough caffeine black tea no not compared to what a celsius okay well that's meth do you want you go by meth okay then yeah i was hoping it was one of the ones so this week i read the news that some of the celsius actually has

alcohol in it yeah they're like the right client i was like that's really what i want i almost sent you that article and then i was like no they have they've drank it so much that they would know it's different than what they're normal the other but can i can i in respectfully let you know that this is the other drink i have which is just a large water wow congratulations it like evens it out i know you're just being a human that's being healthy and then you're screwing it up you just can't you know 8 a.m there it's 8 a.m i already drank mine for the day i want to be proven wrong here yeah but allegedly there have been all these studies done and it's like basic it's like what's the worst thing you want to drink it's celsius no i know and i also already got the ick like i

i know that can someone in the lady gang dm us the options i don't i told you i told you the option uh juno is the caffeinated water caffeinated water but here's my problem is uh celsius has like 200 milligrams of caffeine in it like nothing else has that much drink two of whatever else okay i did try this this is not an ad you guys okay there's an energy drink that my trainer um aaron always has as like a little treat yeah a treat it's called georgie okay and it's oh wait i think that they were gonna send me some they it's delicious and i really like it let me see how many how much uh caffeine for you psychopaths 150 okay that's perfect not bad not bad georgie georgie and i think we need to make the switch guys i'm so so worried about your

insides well you know what it's just all these energy drinks do have the same kind of stuff in them no this doesn't have taurine this doesn't i'm looking at the ingredients right now okay georgie if you're listening we will be the test kids i'm not set like i'm not brand adjacent i know that in the morning i need a shitty drink so it's going to be a diet coke it's going to be a celsius it's going to be a coffee and i feel the best when i have the celsius but i also i know it's time to quit yeah i know it is i actually was planning to maybe quit after lady world because i i know it's six weeks but i um chris has also said to me i think some of your anxiety we'd be better if you weren't drinking the caffeine all day. And I said, well, I'm not

drinking it all day. Um, I, the, I have it for one, one in the morning. Like I remember I used to have four. Yeah. That was insane. Wild. So I have come back. I'm ready. I'm like having one social cigarette. And now I think when lady world's over, then I could get, cause I think I'm going to crash. Like I'm, I need, I can't, I don't have time in my life right now to be that girl but i'm gonna stay in florida with my family the week after now that i don't have a job uh i'm gonna stay with them a week after and lay on the beach and i think that's the perfect time because i can detox as much i'm gonna detox retox all right jack what's your plan here's the thing i mean i don't i don't know let me tell you something i'm listening to you becca and i'm

like you're right it's time i need to think jack's gonna be like go yourself i'm gonna do whatever i want and that well but I don't I don't live in the extremes the way that you do I do drink a Celsius every morning so that's extreme I just want you to know no I know um I just haven't found my thing it's like once you like do once you're on the Celsius it's real hard because nothing else hits the way it does but I do I mean also it's like I'm trying to maybe have a kid next year so it's like I definitely need to prep my body a little bit better it'll happen I'm just i'm also just maybe i'll try after lady world with you kelsey we can do it can we do it together okay but i gotta find another i i gotta find georgie and try all the different flavors you

know because like sometimes with brands you have to like find your flavor um i think also cs is pretty gross but it's still good it's all disgusting it's all so gross i think yeah this is i'm excited for you guys to try this um okay well it's time for good week yes it is bad week oh no who wants to start i'll go okay um my good week is i'm officially back from backstreet boys oh my god i really wanted to talk to you about this i know i'm very excited to have i didn't want to ruin it for you and people in the group were like kelty went and she didn't talk about it i know i didn't i wanted to debrief with you i didn't want to do it alone and you'd be like oh i can't wait to see that now we can talk yeah we can debrief um i mean just high level

uh it was the coolest thing that i have like ever seen in my life holy shit the sphere it's like one of those things that you cannot describe to somebody and all the videos do not do it justice it's like the most overwhelming all-encompassing feeling being at the sphere like what did you think about it this was your first sphere concert yeah and what i need to know what uh items you put ingested into your body oh my god just so much tequila are you talking about drinks yeah well i took oh no well i'm not i'm not sensitive to any of that my body is like pretty i don't get like motions yeah dumpster i'm not like sensitive to like motion sickness and stuff like that i was just drinking no i'm just saying because both times i went to the sphere for you

and baxter boys i took um mushrooms oh oh no but i don't also don't do drugs okay alcohol is my drug mushrooms are a drug god put it on the planet for us it's better than celsius it's definitely a mind-altering substance on earth too yeah cocaine is natural becca is the yucking my honestly everything everything is when you think about it everything is natural no everything is natural it all comes from the earth somehow the taurine comes from the earth and this is okay so discuss backstreet boys sorry this was your first time at the sphere so people who don't know the sphere I mean I think everyone knows the sphere okay um no but it was I mean it was amazing I like it's like you don't even really need them there it's like

more about the visuals and they're so when you have like a farther up seat like we have the best freaking seats um but like when you're not on the floor at the pit and you can't really see them close it's like you're kind of there more for like the whole experience but it is so fun looking at them again like we were talking about last time when they're like up on the riser they're so high up there and then it's like you get the whole there's like a visual where you're like in a spaceship and it just goes like all the way above you i mean it's insane it's absolutely insane were you still sexually attracted to kevin the way you thought you'd be he was so far away i didn't even see him see this is so strange so strange what the concept of the sphere i guess you just said it

it's like an immersive experience like a disney ride but then there's like a few hundred people in the front that are actually there for a concert yeah it's their way of selling a ton of tickets to something even though you're watching little ants on stage yeah and there's like not i mean there's some parts of the concert where like there's like visuals of like you know when you're at a festival and it has like the video like up close of somebody performing yeah so there's like parts yeah like a jumbotron kind of thing that's like worked into the sphere it's like a part of like the window of a spaceship or something um but other than that it's like yeah we were talking about it afterwards we're like would you go see it again without them there and

i'm like yeah absolutely i actually think it would be a great bonding experience to do like a 90s alt rock or a y2k karaoke sing-along and it's just all people there it's it's almost like going what i assume i have never been to but it feels the baxter boys concert felt like going to a mega church like i was like am i at a mega church right now like everyone was wearing white your outfits were so cute thank you um it was very culty and you like everyone's a stranger but you all love the same god oh my god it's so fun like before the concert when you're just like in the hotel and stuff and you see other people that are obviously going it's like it's like i know it's gonna be like lady world you guys everyone's gonna be in their themed outfits

and seeing each other yeah and they're gonna come there's worship the gods just kidding us no it's like it's a special that's why I love like themed anything because I'm like it does just like give you another little thing and you can meet people and you're like cute Chris got me a collector cup at the bar oh my god cute I have it actually I should have brought it down um okay I have more details I need to talk to you about number one one of my favorite parts of the show was before the show opens they just have like this crazy wall so when you walk in and there's like fans and it's a video wall but it's playing all they're so smart it's playing all their like videos and then also behind the scenes stuff from like trl yeah and it's like it's peak backstreet

boys nostalgia so you're just i was like i don't even want the show to start because i just want to watch like these behind the scene videos it was so cool um then i i just want to talk about some of the outfits so i think maturing sorry i know this is your good week but no jack who were you when you did see them who were you the most sexually attracted to i'm not in the past in no like in this show or like this one i'm telling you i was not really paying attention to them like this is wild okay so for me but no but from the i mean that's well we talked about it like the other week where it's like i think that like kevin is really getting me now like that that's sort of and it's like his like nonchalantness is like kind of sexy he's like all chalant you've

seen him dance in rehearsals he goes full out that man does not know how to mark no so i think he is because he doesn't belong like he's a robot yeah so their soul is gone that's what's nonchalant He's just there for the money. Hat dance. Hat dance. He's not sentient. I can't even believe how much money they're probably making off of this, by the way. They have to split it so much, though.

I know. But the sphere fits 20,000 people, so they're playing to 60,000 people a weekend. Yeah, that's a lot. But this sphere, yeah, it's crazy. I don't know. Should we ask them? So, okay. I have a few thoughts.

Number one, I'll start with Kevin. So there was a whole song time of my show where Kevin was like under the stage. I don't know if he was peeing in a bucket. Like now that I know behind the scenes of this thing, I'm like, where's the bathroom? I'm like, where's he peeing? Like what's happening? But like the song had started and then Kevin just shalantly walked up and joined. And I was like, okay, maybe he has diarrhea.

Like that's literally what I was thinking. But the thing about Kevin is that Kevin has dressed himself as Obi-Wan Kenobi for this show at this sphere. he is only wearing long coats yeah every outfit he has is like a trench but there's this section that they're all in the white millennium but it's like millennium 2.0 obviously and he is giving like he is giving the natalie portman space movies like it's wild and he's so tall that then you're like oh kevin you've really got it and then you look at brian and it's like listen i love all the backstreet boys so if you're a backstreet boys fan and you run backstreet boys for life do not

come for me right now i'm just giving honest critiques with full love like i love them 100 but brian was my guy in high school like we've asked this yeah same 100 and i looked at him at this at this sphere show and i was like what happened to brian like oh my god i'm not talking about the voice like i understand he had no his voice he sounded amazing he sounded really good the first like five or six songs at our show and then i could tell how he was taking over for him in some parts like you know it wasn't full brian but it's like the nerdiest conversation i've ever been a part of no but listen so brian there's a point where brian is wearing and i kid you not a hot pink sneaker a oh a cargo pant no what was the hobby an obi-wan kenobi tunic and then a cropped

sequined tuxedo jacket on top and a pink hat backwards no and wasn't this the same look that aj was also wearing like a bright pink beanie but there's only like his was like kind of sexy it was pops of pink and they had like the pink kind of low wave shoes or whatever yeah but brian like there was a time where he went on the big screen and i was like are you wearing a cropped tuxedo So I turned to my friend and I was like, am I high or is Brian wearing the weirdest thing right now? And she was like, it's weird. So, and then she was like, anyway, Brian.

Okay. But our Lord and savior, AJ, AJ had the flu at my show, which I didn't know until after I went on Tik TOK, AJ is still holding it down for the Backstreet Boys. I'm sorry. Always. Like he gave it to me so much. He's the Kelty. he came out at the end through his shirt like couldn't get enough of himself like i with the

flu he threw his shirt after i was like and then i was like attention is the only medicine he needs exactly yeah okay the one thing i do want to sorry i know wait i have something i want to talk about about the show i have another thing too um this song to wrap this up this song siberia and the and the visuals for siberia i don't know that siberia was not a song on the the list but are you talking about the faces in the snow that's siberia that's the song that they sing for that okay so they do a song becca where they do mount rushmore faces but they're all frozen and it's their face giant on the screen it's like an arctic tundra but then you're like taking have you seen it on tundra guys i just want to tell you that we're in the portion of

the podcast where someone's describing the plot of a movie to you you know what i mean okay yeah sorry i was just obsessed with it i am proud of you for going and going like really enjoying yeah i just want to night night i want to end this with jack i know you and i love to get out of places like early the next day when we go when we travel right oh i i feel the same way i'm mad at you i saw you take those shots of tequila before the show and then i was disgusted when I saw your face on Instagram at like it was like five in the morning so what flight did you take out the next day you know I take the first flight out no matter what I do it is the absolute most psychotic serial killer thing I've ever seen in my life I can understand when you leave you know

leaving like a show London right and you're like oh I gotta get off you're in Vegas there's a flight every hour like you could have taken the nine well i couldn't have because there's only very few flights from delta that fly into orange county so i was very limited because i didn't want to stay until noon oh yeah you're free but it doesn't matter even if it was lax and there's a million flights i i have to my anxiety cannot take spending one more minute somewhere that i don't need to be it's like so weird so the first flight of the day i get home i was showered and on my couch by like 8am. And I'm like, this is where I want to be. I would not be able to enjoy myself at all for one second. I couldn't take that shot of tequila. You really have it. You

have something inside of you that's stronger than anybody I know. I accidentally did it once. And then I'm like, wait, this is it's the hack because you get home before you even know what's going on because I'm like, so hungover. I'm like, still kind of drunk. So by the time I get home, I'm like what and then i'm home okay wow do you have a bad week my bad week was just the fact that um and i don't know if that sorry one more thing about backstreet boys um and another thing about jojo siwa um i don't know if it was like this for you kelty but there were not enough people out of their seats dancing i was very shocked because i feel like everybody that went to that show paid way too much money for these tickets like when i was looking on stubhub they were

like minimum five hundred dollars and like we the second the show started i was up out of my seat dancing the entire time and it was maybe like 20 of the people that were doing that probably because the rest were on drugs that make the experience so exciting they just wanted to sit and enjoy it yeah standing up for me was not gonna happen it made me feel like i was gonna fall off earth i mean it's very vertical and the other thing is i can't stand at concerts like that because then chris is sitting because chris can't stand he would ruin it for the people behind him so we did a mix we did a mix of like for the hits we got up and then i was like and then i sat back down and enjoyed the show so i'm sorry i'm an elder but yeah i know i understand if i was on

the floor i would have danced the whole time yeah and i do believe in dancing at a concert i don't believe in sitting at a concert but the the sphere is very up and down i felt like i was going to fall off earth okay if you're afraid of heights is that a bad place to go i'll tell you i can't i can't sit like nosebleeds at sporting events like basically like soaring at disney the ride but like that's like i'm strapped in but i'm like strapped it's very it's very vertical like i could do it yeah or if i went low if my seats were low i don't i couldn't be up yeah but then you don't get the full experience yeah because i yeah it's really um i thought there was a whole beginning part where you're flying through space and i had to look at my feet and

i was also very high and i thought i was gonna barf so not barf but like i was like this is too intense so i wonder how many people have barfed at the sphere before oh god there's probably a full protocol yeah no i think there is i think there is a part because i saw it on tiktok now my whole tiktok okay anyway becca sorry we're done elfine now back to the lady gang All right. Okay. So my bad week is this. I am so sick and tired of customer service slash hassling and finagling of brands. I bought a candle online. And when I tell you for the next two weeks, my phone was ringing off the hook from someone at the candle company asking if I wanted to use some special discount, like some sort of special extracurricular item. Wait, they called

you? They called me. Two separate men called me from this candle company. And I am, I feel like I want to call them out because I am sick and tired of people taking liberties just because you order a candle online? I didn't have a pap smear. I didn't need a follow-up to the candle. And if I wanted to use your discount, I would have clicked add discount or add special item or secret item, whatever the they were peddling. When I checked out of the cart, I'm so, why do you even use my phone number? I hate you. That is so weird. I have so many questions. Number one, are you not gifted enough candles in your life? Like you had to buy a candle. I feel like as millennial women, do we not just have a small drawer of candles? We've been gifted when people

come to our house. No, you don't have that drawer, but I'm very particular. I don't want just any burning candle. I don't want like, I need to have a smell. It's a wonderful candle and I'm upset about it oh and also i accidentally somehow subscribed who needs to subscribe to a candle so then another one shows up and i'm like i cannot oh my god i cannot i hate you i hate you i hate you they make the website so complicated this is so boomer of me so complicated that by the time i check out i don't even know what the happened to me and then i get two calls from like joe and Stanley from the candle company I hate you I am like literally about to burn my candle the way the person burnt their lady box years ago and make a video for social media I guess you can can't you

can't burn a candle but anyways I am so mad at this company what is the smell it's amazing I need you to side text me what it is what's the smell let me just give you an example so you know that i'm not no i believe you so here we go fashionately i've never seen you this passionate about anything hi becca this is chris going from hotel collection please give me a ring when you get a minute um i saw that you had ordered a deluxe candle no shit chris didn't know if you actually um have one of our diffusers in your home or not but your purchase did qualify you for one complimentary so give me a call my number is 78 he's just trying well no we should all call him back no wait that is well number one he was giving you a complimentary no it's if you sign

up to subscribe it's all bullshit it's all bullshit hold on the upsell it is hold on i'm so well hotel collection is great candles but you should use no neom cozy oh i love that one best candle in the world. I have that too. And they've never made me sign up for anything. You can get it on Amazon. You don't even have to get it from their website. Yeah. That's where I get mine from. Oh, yeah. They're big fancy. Okay. Um, there's another one in here somewhere, but okay. No, we, we believe you. Yeah. No, it's so funny. I got the, I got the funniest non compliment at a party on Saturday. I know I left my house. Um, I met this guy named Gavin, who's just so funny. And we were talking and he

said something to me and i said oh gavin i'm like basic and he and he looked at me and goes oh you you're a yankee candle girl oh my god oh that's so rude yankee candle girl yeah but he was joking and i said not a yankee candle girl i was like how dare you and then we were like naming all our favorite yankee candles because a yankee candle is a very basic bitch candle like they're good they are good i'm sure that they're poisoning you the way a celsius is poisoning you allegedly like so is everything dude i know it's just life that's life just being human do you feel like we can move on or do you want to find the other i know i can see you looking for the other i want everyone to know i'm not exaggerating you're not exaggerating we believe you we really do

i am so angry i am just how that is just so like invasive how dare you call my pretty crazy phone number you i'm so mad okay do you have a good week yeah okay okay my good week is this everyone's been doing like ask chat gpt about your color assessment about your color assessment oh what's your color what is your are you cool summer are you your mom didn't love you she didn't have your colors done when you were like nine what what i've had my colors done my whole life that is so weird she took you somewhere to do it no they came to the house i'm a star baby yeah you are a star baby like this is so wild this is so wild i'm a winter i've been a winter forever are you oh okay i'm a summer anyways i figured out

my colors and i share the same the same colors as amanda seyfried michelle pfeiffer oh this um yeah there's some other oh kate blanchett uh naomi watts it's a really nice class of women to be in and i'm excited about it you know because now i finally know like what color blush i'm supposed to put on my face because oh there's nothing more confusing than a blush knowing a blush even a lip color you know i always go toward you gravitate toward what looks good on other people when you pick out a lip color you don't necessarily gravitate toward what looks good on you I don't think so yeah it was quite helpful it turns out I've been wearing all the wrong colors wearing all the wrong makeup but we're about to turn this ship around we only wear

sad colors so are you gonna induce some happy colors the only good news is I gray oh I am wearing gray gray is a good color for me so that's in white so that's like these are two of your mainstays black overpowers me but that's sort of what I want when I'm wearing black do you know what I mean? I'm like, don't look at my face. I think you look great in black. Yeah. Okay. But like black's not a color. Black and white don't count. What colors? They're not great. And so I'm going to really have to try to like. What are they? It's like light, like a light purple and icy blue. Icy blue is kind of fun. Icy blue is beautiful on you. And then there's a, hold on, hold on, hold on. I have every color in the Pantone. Okay. Here we go. I'm a cool summer.

okay my best neutrals are like see these grays whites okay it's like oh it's giving like lisa frank no they're like no those are not bright those are more muted they're they're like oh good your camel brown is in there that's your favorite color it's pretty good and then some of these colors i'm never gonna wear purple not ever not once not ever and so it's a bummer that there's like three shades of purple that they're recommending for me um i'm like i bet it would be beautiful on you though. It's just too, it's too soft for me. You know, I don't like, but it was very helpful. I feel like now I'm sort of thinking about it when I'm getting dressed. I do wish I could go to somebody in person and maybe not just rely on uploading a picture to chat GPT,

but I think they did a decent job. I'd really like to have that at lady world. I know we can't add any more things to our plate. Cause that would be really cool. We could ask around. I'm sure there's somebody down there from a local that could do it. I think it would be a really cool thing. I actually love that idea. Yeah. Me too. It's going to be so hard at Lady World because literally like we're so in the planning right now and we know all the surprises that are happening and like, how are we, how am I going to enjoy it? I want to be selfish. Like, I'm like, well, wait, what about me? Like, when am I going to DSW to get my treat? When am I going to this food truck to get my acai bowl that's the catch for sure and i'm just gonna be out there and people are

gonna be like can i take a picture with you and i'll be like no i'm getting my matcha anyway okay um all right i have a good week okay oh my god i'm so excited about this i am living with jeans man now if you are part of lady gang and you know the lore many years ago i was working at entertainment tonight and i would work out in the gym there And there was a man who I still don't know his name, and he would wear bedazzled jeans to work out every day at the same time. But he was incredibly sexy. And Rebecca, my makeup artist, and I had a big crush on him, and we were, like, always talking about jeans men to the point where when we had our very first Lady Gang show a zillion years ago at a yoga studio in L.A., we hired a man to just wear jeans and give out drinks. And no shirt.

No shirt. A real-life jeans man. So the lore is luring. I am sitting on the couch this weekend with one Chris Knight and he has a shirt on and jeans. He's, I don't know. I think he's come home from work. Maybe it was a Friday.

It was Friday night. I look over and this man is wearing a bedazzled belt. What the f**k? A bedazzled belt. No, he's not. Yes. His shirt was pulled up a little bit on his waist. Chris Knight.

I looked at him and I was like, do you mean a rhinestone? It was a picture belt. Did you just open another Celsius? No, I'm texting him and saying, can you please come here and bring the belt? Wait, that is so, can we get like an, like what, where'd he get it? I don't know. He might be in Spanish class, but he is wearing a rhinestone belt. it's got multiple gems on it of all colors of the rainbow red blue it is like someone get that go

get it i know go in his closet immediately i need to see this this is so upsetting oh he's in a spanish lesson well you can he's probably not wearing it you probably destroyed you guys i'll be back keep talking about it this is insane also she's saying that the guy at the gym wore bedazzled jeans he didn't have bedazzled jeans he had on like the true religion and the back pocket had some sort of like uh it was like embroidered something but I feel like true religion always has like a little bedazzled like maybe their thread is a little bit shiny so it's like giving early 2000s this is so this I do have an item of clothing of Zach's that he when we first started dating had two pairs of shoes that one was a red suede and one was a like Clifford the no that's

clifford the big red dog and then like a blue smurf colored suede shoe like solid a matching pair that they were the same style no he had two different ones with the same style shoe i can't find it it's a deep cavern in there he's probably wearing it in spanish damn it well you're gonna have to just post about it on yeah i'm so sorry you guys that would make me flaccid so he was wearing this rhinestone belt it had many gems like red green blue and I looked at him and I started laughing hilarious like hysterically and I was like did he buy it for himself I crawled over to him on the couch and I was like and I just started touching it and I said excuse me who is this man and what have you done with Chris Knight and he was like do you like it no and I was

like what is this and he goes my friend matthias made it for me now matthias is a creative director he's from europe and he loves to bedazzle so he gave us these vans like he took vans and yeah and he he actually when he was at my house visiting he you guys know those shoes that men wear that have each have toes yeah yes the worst shoe of all time yeah he was like I'm trying to make this shoe happen so he had a black pair and a green pair and he rhinestone them and then he had some person wear it at fashion week very strange and I was like this is hideous but anyway Chris was like Mateus made me this belt what do you think and I was like I everything that I have known for the last 16 years is gone like i don't first of all you're wearing a blue jean who are

you i've never you never wear a jean and i was like and a rhinestone belt i just maybe he's having a midlife crisis it's tough on a heterosexual american man to see something like that it's very european that's what i'm saying it's very euro so it was hard for me um please thoughts and prayers with me during this difficult time. I hope my marriage survives. Please respect her privacy. This has been one of the most difficult times in my life in my, um, in my marriage. I was still thinking about it while I was having sex with him on Sunday. So I, you know, I was like having sex and I was like the belt, the belt, but then, okay, here's the, what I need to admit to you. Part of me found it very sexual, like not in a bad way, like in a, no, that's definitely

something you would find sexual though like it's in a von dutch way like in a rock star way well it reminds me of your youth when you're dating a rock star they always had like an accoutrement like a studded belt or like a painted nail and exactly a little eyeliner a little liner like now i was like chris is a good boy and now he's a bad boy it's like yeah it's really giving rhinestones say bad boy it depends well it's a mix of rhinestones and like metal studs so you know it has it's giving ed hardy like it's it's wild okay well i love this for you that's my good week you're listening to the lady gang okay my bad week is i i think i'm a terrible person which we already knew. I'm having a situation at work that I don't know if anyone who's worked in a

corporate office can appreciate. This is not something for like Becca on set at movies and things like that. It's not a Jack Vanek thing. This is a corporate office thing. You know, there's friends that you're friends with that are just like, I don't have your phone number. I don't even know your last name, but like we work together and I see you every day. You know what I mean? And we all have job to do. There's someone at my work who is a trauma dumper and this is, it's very strange. So like they're the friendliest trauma dumper I've ever met.

So this person is so friendly, comes by every day. Hey, how's it going? Like very happy, always feels included, like super nice person. but once once a week this person will come into a public space and do the asking of like hey how's it going does not care about your answer and then tells you the worst news that has ever happened like i think to them yes so i think am i in an episode of saturday night live so like one week the dog died it's like how are you i'm not good my dog died and then you're just like i don't know you enough to be like i'm so sorry like yeah i don't i didn't even know you had a dog like i'm

just like oh man that's really hard like the energy is just out of the room yesterday i'm sitting there we're by the way the energy is not great at e-news right now everyone just lost their jobs everyone's gonna say good news is you don't have to listen to this person anymore no i know we've got six weeks of trauma left, but I'm like, you need to read the room right now. So like everyone, no, everyone's trying to figure out how they're going to pay their rent in September or like, you know, a lot of these people are like giggers, right? Makeup hair, like, you know, they're giggers. So they, they're not like, they're making $300 a day to do their job or whatever. And when they're not working, they don't make money. So anyway, we're all kind of like,

we incomes trauma dumper. Hey, Hey, Hey, how's it going? How's it going? So positive. Hey, how's it going how's it going guys good everyone good everyone good yeah we're good how are you because you're nice and you ask not good no my sister's sister no my wife's sister died and they're in nigeria and they can't get she can't get there i'm like do i need like are you what i don't know how to help you here do i need to go on expedia is this a government issue is this a visa like i don't know what to say so i was just like wow everyone's having a tough day Like, I don't know. The trauma dumping is so dark. It does. Has anyone experiences? I don't know how to handle it. Normally I would just ignore this person and be a dick because that's

like what I do when people normally tell me about their feelings, but I feel like the feelings are so dark. Like it's not just like, Oh, I'm having a hard day or like super tired today. You know, it's Friday. Like every single week it is something so aggressive. Am I a terrible person? No, I think that this person has bad boundaries. Like you should know that there's things you bring to work and there's things that you don't. And it's what maybe, okay, if your dog dies and you go to work, I understand. It's like, that's going to be a very hard time to go. And maybe you do share that.

And that's like a once in a, you know, job situation. The only trauma I needed from you for the year. Right. and then everything else especially he's like doing trauma adjacent like the wife sister like i don't even know her but i also want to be like do you know how many awful things are happening around the world like i don't know how to place this this trauma well there's there's okay no there's like a um i think it's like an unspoken rule that it's like if you are asking somebody how are you and in like a space like that where it's not a close friend it's not like an intimate

relationship even if you're having the worst day of your life you say i'm good how are you like because that's just appropriately what you do in that situation it's like not understanding the it's like you said it's like a boundary problem it's like what kind of interaction are you in right now it's not time to unload shit on somebody else also like i'm trying to glue an eyelash to my face like i can't and so it'll be so strange because like eileen will be up in my face drawing liner. And like, we've just heard like this earth shattering, horrific news about the sister who's dead and we can't get to her. And we're just like, I'm trying to, I don't know. I don't have, I can't compartmentalize this. And so I just, I want to know if anyone else has dealt

with this. I think there's probably some really great stories from the lady gang group, but it's like, it's really hard because this is someone I like, like, I really like this person. They are so lovely and one of the only people that comes and says hello every day but like maybe they want to kind of this reminds me of there is this person on a girl on tiktok that did this kind of same thing but like she would film herself going to starbucks and the starbucks person was like how are you and she's like it's the anniversary of when my husband got murdered was she doing this on purpose like as a as a joke no like she was just like and then she was like i don't remember what the point was but it was like oh my god like the starbucks employee is not getting paid enough

money to be a therapist for you like for your shit like it's not the right time because then it's the the employee is like i'm so do you want a latte like then what i feel i i after my rage i felt the same amount of rage as beckon the candle after my rage and like laughing about it you know then I felt really sad because I was like maybe they don't have anybody to talk to well do you need a journal and also like it's a call for help you know what I mean like I think maybe not enough people are loving on you or really like that care about you or asking how you are and so you feel like you need that I don't know like that then makes me really sad like when I really go deep into it I'm like oh no you don't have like a best friend that you could

call that like i don't know it just makes me so sad that's tough that's tough well anyway um and then i have like just one quick before we go sorry this is we talked about the backstreet boys for a long time um i just want to tell everyone that i have a sin that i would like to confess um confess yeah so i gotta get this off my chest so i are you jax taylor's finstagram account oh my god you guys jax is off the valley i'm worried about britney's safety are you really genuinely like you think it's real sorry this is this is this is a turn let's maybe talk about this I just had, like, at the reunion, if anybody watched the Valley reunion yet, the things he's saying and the things he's doing behind the scenes and that is coming up on, like, the things he's saying, the way he's harassing her, like, this feels like the beginning of Dateline. Really?

I'm scared. Like, this is going to be a Netflix documentary. Yeah, I don't like it. I don't like it. And I feel for him. I think it is very sad what's going on. But the way he is acting is – Becoming unhinged?

Yeah. It's scary. Damn. I really think that we have – well, I – sorry. This is a weird transition. No, it's not a weird transition. You haven't even admitted anything. Confessed your sins.

okay let's finish this and then you can confess you can take us out with your sin okay let's discuss the valley i think it's wild that they let people like go to jail for fraud like all the housewives go to jail and people get duis and they break the law and they like literally housewives are in jail and then they get to come back to the show and i just think it's crazy that they kick jacks off like and that he but i also feel like what is, there's gotta be more to the story. So if we're just seeing like the corporate level of what the lawyers will let them show on the reunion, you know what I mean? Cause like, you know, there's other stuff going on that they can't even talk about. Like what is the darker

stuff? That's what scares me is like, if it's this dark on the season and Bravo has kicked him, like I said, we're going to take a break off the show. Like people, housewives have been wasted and running into people with their cars and they're like, keep, keep filming. So like, what is the truth here? You know? And it's interesting because, you know, I, I've always had a soft spot for Jax because I was like, he's dealing with this mental illness. I talked about it when Alex was on the show, Alex Baskin, the producers on the show. And it's been hard to like rally. Cause now I'm like, oh my God. But I also feel like I just, like, I've always been like, okay, Jax, you know, he's going to get it together. He's going to get it together.

Same. I just am not sure that he is. And I, I had thought about having him on the podcast. I was like, you know what? It would be great to have Jax on and we could have like a conversation with him about mental illness and this stuff and i texted kristin maybe like retrospectively in years from now if he does get it together you could have him on i mean listen we're not having him on because i texted kristin and i was like hey do you think we'll get cancer if we have jackson like i wonder if it would be a good episode blah blah and she just said like his problems are so much deeper than that like yeah yeah and that's true i just i i didn't even i haven't watched the reunion yet I need to watch it. But like, it's it's too sad for me. It's very sad. And I'm like, is this

usually you see people hit rock bottom, like I get it when boys live their lives, and they're destructive, and they treat people like shit. Like, there are so many out there, right? I mean, Tom Sandoval, one of the biggest, right? But then there's a level of humility that has come after after where you're like, I'm going to take accountability. And Jax is completely it's Like, is it opposite deep, deep narcissism where they cannot see it? They're always in like defense mode or is it, it's, it's definitely a mixture of, they've said he's been, he's been, um, uh, diagnosed with certain things, but that's not, that's not a characteristic of those diagnosed.

Like he, there's something going on that's making him incapable of redemption. Yeah. And it's like, that's, what's sad is that you see all these other reality people coming to a place where yeah maybe sometimes it's for the cameras but that's how bad he is is he can't even fake it for the cameras he can't even fake he didn't most narcissists could could fake it yeah i don't know what that is yeah and what's interesting is like when you're in his aura like i've interviewed him a bunch of times and he came on the redemption tour before the valley started airing to e and like he's either like he's either the best actor you've ever met because that's

that's why narcissists are very charming. Yeah. He's so charming. And this is why I've always had this soft spot because he'll come in and I'll be like, how you doing, man? He's like, I'm just, and I was like, damn, muscles are big right now. And he's like, yeah, I'll have as the gym. I take it out on the gym every day. I'm just trying to be a better man. And you're just like, oh. And then I'm like, this is why I got hoodwinked by so many assholes in my life. Because like, I really believe you when you say you're working on yourself and you're a sad little pony i'm like oh my god sad little pony it's just it is i love when you take phrases like sad little puppy and turn it into pony it's like your greatest greatest quality sad little pony i

wanted let's that's like let's put it on a shirt sad little pony yeah sad little pony club it's like the pink pony club sorry anyway no i know it's so tough sorry i had to bring it up i don't know what the oh it's because i made you wanted to confess something and i was like you're running yeah just so weird no all the super weird all i wanted to tell you is that i was on jeff lewis last week and before we started he was like i love your necklace is that real and i said yes and it's not well one this is so dumb i know like a tennis necklace yes it is real it's a it's a it's a it's a real cubic zirconia it's a real gold necklace but it is a lab grown diamond no oh who cares how can you buy a real gold necklace with cubic zirconia i that's a weird combo yeah

it's this high end i got it was like an article that all the upper state moms had it so melinda marie and it's expensive it's like eight hundred dollars but maybe it it's lab maybe it's lab grown it's got to be if it's eight hundred dollars that's a lab grown and that is a real diamond like okay so i didn't like now you have to ask is it a natural same thing you know what everything is real or is nothing real you know oh god okay all right we'll see you next tuesday social support from collie colera editing from jared monaco producing from steve delameter and iconic hosting creating and being the gang gang of all gangs by becca tobin jack vanek and kelty night kelty night support by derrick haley you've put off that upgrade long enough during the hyundai

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