LadyGang - DeMario Jackson

Episode Date: February 20, 2018

Bachelor In Paradise's (AND JAC'S ALLEGED FUTURE HUSBAND) DeMario Jackson comes on the podcast to talk about his time in Bachelor Nation and how he came came to meet Jac before playing a deme...nted version of the dating game to determine the strength of their budding relationship. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey guys, it's your Lady Gang, Jack Vanek, Kelty Knight, and Becca Tobin. Thank you so much for subscribing on iTunes, and thanks for supporting the great sponsors who make it possible for us to have this much fun with you every single week for free. Well, what is this? Welcome to the Lady Gang. That's amazing. Say that again. The Lady Gang. Things are about to change around here.
Starting point is 00:00:22 Each week, we catch up with Hollywood's hottest girl posse, Kelty Knight, Becca Tobin, and Jack Vanek. Hello, hello, hello, and welcome to The Lady Gang. I am Rebecca Grace Tobin-Martin. That's my full legal name. Across from me is Kelty... Colleen. Colleen. Cher.
Starting point is 00:00:41 Cher. Oprah Knight. Jacqueline Patera-Svanek. Thank you. Jesus. How's everybody doing? Honestly, I've never been so excited for an episode of Lady Gang to air. Like, you are in for...
Starting point is 00:00:57 I better be into this. A rocket ship. I better be into this. Becca really hates Bachelor contestants. I don't hate them. This is not a Bachelor contestant. This is a possible next husband for Jacqueline. Okay.
Starting point is 00:01:10 All right. All right. We're into it. Okay. Fine. And on that note, it's time for... Good week. Yes, it is.
Starting point is 00:01:16 Bad week. Oh, no. I'm going to go first. Oh. I just jumped right ahead. Okay. My good week. So, I...
Starting point is 00:01:26 I love you, Jacqueline. What? You always start Good Week the same. Why? My Good Week, looking at the phone, because oh, and then you move the phone over and then you begin. It's amazing. It's true.
Starting point is 00:01:35 You guys, I'm a creature of habit. Okay. You really are. So my Good Week is this guy that I used to date like years ago texted me this morning and he's like, oh, I read an article about you this morning. I was like, was it about the Lady Gang or something? He's like, no. Links me to it.
Starting point is 00:01:48 It's a Forbes article. Not about me, but it's about this band called X Ambassadors. I don't know if either of you guys know about them. Of course. So they're amazing. I have loved them for years and the article is about how to manage a successful band. I guess it was with their manager.
Starting point is 00:02:03 So the reason why I'm in this article is because they're asking about like how they got their big break and they credited me. What? Yeah. So I put their song on a Spotify playlist like years ago. It's this whole weird chain of events. Then somebody from a local radio station was following me. Cause you're so influential.
Starting point is 00:02:21 Put it on the radio and then it ended up blowing up on the radio and becoming like the biggest song of the year. then imagine dragons were at the radio station and they're playing it over the radio they heard it and then took them on tour so it was this like weird like we're better awesome yeah okay when are they coming to la and we better get free tickets i know they're so good too they're like such a good band that i'm so glad that they've seen success it makes me happy yes you do you'll know their song their songs are all over commercials they're all over the radio yeah Is anyone in that band
Starting point is 00:02:53 single and rich for you? No, I don't think so. They're definitely not rich yet. Like, it takes, like, at least five hit singles to be, like, bonafide, like, Jack Vanek-worthy rich. They're so talented, though. No, because when you're in a band, as you guys know, with the Lady Gang, when you have to share the profits,
Starting point is 00:03:08 it's like, one peanut for you, one peanut for you, one peanut for you. Okay, my bad. Adam Levine doesn't get more. He does because he's on The Voice. Yeah, now he's, like, his own celebrity. I believe, shares their money equally. Interesting. Even though, do all...
Starting point is 00:03:23 See, I feel like if you're writing the music, you should get more money. Well, you do. But Adam's not writing that music. I mean... Yeah, because you get songwriter credit. Yeah. It's a very tricky business. It would suck to be in a band with five people.
Starting point is 00:03:34 Okay. My bad week is I have a problem with Starbucks. Starbucks, I was driving through the Starbucks drive-thru. I know what you're going to say. I've been following your drama. I saw this sign, and I thought it was, like, written by some stupid employee that worked there. And it's a poem about their new Cherry Mocha Frappuccino, and it goes like this. Cherries are red, cocoa, woo-hoo, topped with whipped cream, Cherry Mocha, I love you.
Starting point is 00:04:04 Okay, so I thought it was just somebody that worked there was like, I'll write this fun poem to promote the Cherry Mocha. It turns out that it's a national campaign, and somebody got paid a lot of money. to write this poem to be put in every Starbucks across the country. What's your problem with the poem? It's really f***ing bad. And it doesn't make any sense. Well, can you come up with a better one? Yeah, that's what I was going to say.
Starting point is 00:04:28 I have a better one. So if Starbucks wants to hire me to write their poems. Or you could just give it to Free on your ultra popular podcast that lots of people listen to. Roses are red. Blood is too. Touch my cherry mocha. I'll f***ing cut you. Okay, I don't think that's really on brand for Starbucks, but good job.
Starting point is 00:04:44 Thank you. I feel like, you know, if they want to get a little edgy, they should. They're not going to use the F word in, I don't think, any of their campaigns. You can't use the F word when you're getting your puppuccino. You know what I mean? It just doesn't go together. Whatever. I think it's horrible.
Starting point is 00:04:56 I don't know who approved it. It makes me really fucking angry. And now it's become a thing that I get so many DMs of every person that sees it. They're like, thought of you. Thought of you. Well, also, nobody wants a cherry mocha. That sounds disgusting. That sounds disgusting.
Starting point is 00:05:08 It sounds so gross. Cherry flavored anything. Anything gross. No one's like, mmm, I'm really feeling a cherry flavor. I'm going to say right now I'm looking at the only cherry-flavored thing that I do like, and it's one of the LaCroix flavors. It's delicious. It's not even my favorite.
Starting point is 00:05:20 I'd rather have grapefruit. Okay, I'm going next. Sorry, Kelty. I know you wanted to go. No, it's fine. Live your life. You said you were going to go first. No, it's fine.
Starting point is 00:05:28 Look at how friendly I am. You were just writhing inside. No, I'm not. I'm rolled over a new leaf, you guys. You're cool, Kelty. I'm not cool, Kelty, but I am trying to be, like, conscious. Okay, cool. um so no one cares i when we moved into our house a year and a half ago i was so excited that i have
Starting point is 00:05:48 this fenced in backyard and there's like little places for little orly to go out and live out wilderness dreams you know because i think every dog deserves a backyard yes so first thing in the morning i open up the door and i let her go out there for a while yeah and i'll get take a shower i'll drink coffee and she'll come in and like you know mosey on in i never let her out there at night because there's coyotes in the hills and so by the time it's dusk she can't go out there by herself we were in our backyard at 3 p.m the other day and what comes walking up a giant mother effing coyote the size of a large german shepherd it's broad daylight which means it has rabies yeah and it's wait really i don't know that's what becca said
Starting point is 00:06:35 Well, I think when they're out in the daytime, they're like, something is wrong with them. They're crazy. The boy's hungry. Yeah. So he's just right over the fence. Yeah. Staring down. So now Orly can't live her best life.
Starting point is 00:06:50 Yeah. As my dog. So now I have to wake up every morning, make coffee and sit out there and watch her like I have a child. Yeah. It's really annoying. Well, it's better that you saw that now than like after he ate your dog. No, it's true.
Starting point is 00:07:02 You know what? You're right. Glass half full. Glass half full. Glass half full. And also, I feel like because of this story, do you feel like the coyote knew that Orly lived there? I'm sure he smelled her. But I'm saying—
Starting point is 00:07:14 Because she's a beautiful, young, vibrant, fertile woman. No, I'm just saying, but like, to me, this doesn't sound like the first time coyote has come to check out this territory. That makes me creeped out. And he probably knows that she's out during the day. Yeah. Yeah, you're lucky that— You're lucky. You need an electric fence.
Starting point is 00:07:31 I'm scared. Okay, anyway. I don't know if that's going to stop her. Here's my good week. it was from a couple weeks ago but I forgot to use it and it was so important to me that I had to bring it back. I was at Aroma Cafe, shout out in Studio City
Starting point is 00:07:42 standing outside on like a Saturday there was kind of a line so it was you know wrapped outside of the restaurant so I'm standing outside and all of a sudden I hear someone in the... Shouting your name. Paparazzi, Becca, over here, over here, over the shoulder. What are you wearing? No, even better. I hear a girl scream, Becca!
Starting point is 00:07:58 Becca! And I'm like oh I must know somebody and I look over and she's pulling away and she's like I love the Lady Gang! oh that's cute it was really cute it's the first time for me i love wait no one's ever come up no one screamed it out yeah i've never been every once in a while people will say but like that was really aggressive and i loved every second of it yeah please aggressively love the lady come and like grab us from behind and give us a big hug maybe not that maybe not that i don't really enjoy hugs from anyone no the other day i took my parents to the movie theater a pretty
Starting point is 00:08:28 popular movie theater here in la and i was like please god someone recognize me so i can seem so in front of my parents, but no one did. Aw. You know, that would thrill them to no end. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:39 Sheila and Ken would use that story. They'd be like, we went down to see our daughter in Los Angeles and people were recognizing her. She's such a celebrity.
Starting point is 00:08:46 She needs a hat. She needs a hat. Anyway. Okay. Good week. Real Housewives of Atlanta used one of my sayings. What?
Starting point is 00:08:54 I'm officially famous. What? Housewives of Atlanta used roll the tape. No. Yes. I don't watch the Housewives of Atlanta,
Starting point is 00:09:01 so I was told this by a lady ganger. And I'm sure we could find the footage. If anyone can, please tape it. Roll the tape. But they used roll the tape. It's a good one. Did you make that one up or did you save it somewhere?
Starting point is 00:09:12 No, I made it up. You did? Yeah, like roll the tape. I can't imagine you're the first person. I know. I'm absolutely the first person. I brought Rad back from the 80s. I'm a word connoisseur.
Starting point is 00:09:19 What? You brought Rad back? No, I was the first person. Rad never left. No, Rad left. No, it didn't. In Canada, Rad was gone. Rad was big in the 80s when I was born.
Starting point is 00:09:30 And then when I was in high school, listen, when I was in high school, I was a waitress, and some of the hot guys from my town came in, and they were like, how's your day, Kelty? And I was like, I'm rad. And everyone was like, rad? Who uses rad? And then like a year later, it was on all the t-shirts at Abercrombie. I brought rad back.
Starting point is 00:09:45 Okay. NeNe. NeNe used it. Oh. Roll your tapes back. Oh, different. Wow, that's way off. Well, roll your tapes back and roll the tape is exactly the same.
Starting point is 00:09:55 NeNe, I'm with you. Turn that off. Okay, next. Turn that off. I signed up for Bumble Biz because I've missed out on all online dating and I was like, oh, this is like Bumble Biz is this app where you're supposed to be able to like connect with other entrepreneurs and other people in the business like a dating app but only for business. So I was like, oh, cool. I'm going to like support our friends Aaron and Sarah Foster who like started like this section of Bumble. And so I signed up and I like uploaded my profile pictures like one of my head shots, you know, and I did all my like funny witty things like why people should follow me and swipe, swipe, swipe.
Starting point is 00:10:26 How'd that go for you? well then on the app do they normally do this thing on dating apps then you have to take a picture of yourself from your phone that moment and then they verify like you are who you say bumble does that yeah so bumble does that so i'm just sitting there and i'm trying to get bumble to say yes you are the person in your headshot they wouldn't recognize your face it was like do not recognize do not recognize because i was like essentially like no makeup like gross face hair and a bun and then like i was like trying to be glamorous in my headshot and i couldn't like anyway so eventually i waited till the next day when i was like more glamorous and
Starting point is 00:10:57 took the picture and they let me yeah so basically i'm such a transitional beauty that like or maybe it's you don't look anything like you do with makeup on that's what i'm saying no my makeup artist said that she's like you know what's good about your face you're a transitional beauty like we can like you can go from like oh to like beautiful like with some makeup so that's a good thing it's a good i mean i'm fine with it anyway bumble biz is not that great though right yet there's no one on there people are like i'm an artist let me take your picture that's not what i'm looking for i'm looking for the woman who runs cover girl i'm an artist you know what i mean like i'm a musician listen to my demo no no no i'm looking for a box company that can make our
Starting point is 00:11:31 lady boxes please yeah i don't know okay great so um speaking of our lady boxes who's here the person who might claim jack's lady box for life is here holla and he's here next you're listening to the lady gang our guest today's bachelor bio says i won't lie i love attention and that's why i love him um and damn has the world ever given him attention from is he there for the right reasons to his alleged girlfriend showing up on his season with rachel to the salacious sex scandal with corinne most importantly though most most importantly though most importantly he's been sliding into jack's dms and we are convinced they're either dating about to date or should be dating and that is basically why we invited him on the lady gang
Starting point is 00:12:22 today to get to the bottom of this lady gang investigates please welcome to the podcast demario jackson oh that was a really good intro did you like it really great i have to be honest you were maybe the hardest person to find out about i was like what did you do before bachelor the only things that came up were like bachelor like you need to get a wikipedia page no you know what i control everything like you notice through all my bs usually with african americans when something crazy happens like a guy can be murdered and they'll put up a mugshot from like 87 with me i control all my pictures because i actually just created social media for this so you didn't exist before i didn't exist i'm like kaiser sose like i just kind of like i come and go i appeared out
Starting point is 00:13:05 of nowhere no it's interesting because i was like i went through normally when you google someone like their instagram and then their wiki page and then like their high school yearbook photo comes up and all this stuff but it's like literally bachelor bachelor bachelor i had to pull off your bachelor profile yeah i mean i do have a facebook disappointing for me yeah it's i mean because a little deeper you know i like to control my you know like your image don't let anybody else you're reclaiming your time i'm claiming it reclaiming it after having it snatched yeah exactly um okay so i just want to full disclosure this becca is not a fan of the bachelor she has no idea who you are i love that yeah people like becca i like genuinely well here's what i don't
Starting point is 00:13:45 like i don't like people who who are like who pretend to be becca like i'm on bumble and stuff and then like i'll have girls that'll be like i have no idea who you are but it just so happens that my great aunt's dog said is that demario and then all of a sudden 20 minutes of conversation she's like tell me about corinne tell me about raven tell me about adam like i thought you said you didn't you know if you watch it you watch it that's great but if you don't then have you ever gone out on a date with a girl that said that she didn't know and then like through the date like you start feeling it i once went over to a girl's house it happened to me on a monday night and she's watching your season she's watching it and when i walked in i like i kind of played it off
Starting point is 00:14:27 and we're like 30 minutes to the conversation and i called her out i go through our text message and i was like hey one of our first text messages is hey my friend told me that you were on this show but I don't watch TV and I happen to come over and you're watching it and she's like oh my god no my TV just happened
Starting point is 00:14:40 to be on here also people who say I don't watch TV do you? do you breathe? do you eat? everybody watches it everybody watches it
Starting point is 00:14:47 you're not better than everybody else because you don't watch TV and why do people have to lie? yeah just admit it you watched Handmaid's Tale in one Saturday
Starting point is 00:14:55 it's fine you have no life what did you do on Saturday? oh I ate a sheet cake and I watched reruns of Fixer Upper and I'm okay with myself
Starting point is 00:15:05 admit that own that yeah own it because i mean because it's just weird when it comes out yeah yeah that's awkward and yeah it's just because then you're kind of just sitting there for me i'm like damn you're starting off this you know shallow bumble relationship already with a lie right you know i mean it's already it's bad enough that we're just swiping away and just hey you're hot yeah you know i mean that's terrible and then you're just going to start off with just a blatant lie yeah i don't i don't even watch tv and then you come up with some hey are you that one guy yes my name's demario it's like i'm one of one like yes it's me i'm six foot four and black like my name is like mike smith and i'm some white redhead with glasses or
Starting point is 00:15:45 something it's like oh it's a million of me in the world it's me and not to be like uh like a cocky guy but you know it is what it is i assume that every woman between the ages of like eight and sixty whenever i see them you know i'll get like oh my god like before when everything came out it was weird it was like oh shit grab your purse like you know this guy's coming in he's coming in here to like damage you now i get hugs i actually hold babies like twice a week i feel like obama yeah it's weird next you're gonna get a painting in the smithsodian that would be okay so let's talk um let's i want to talk about the scandal first uh because whoa yeah so whoa here's my question about it it um for those of you who do not watch television um there was the
Starting point is 00:16:26 scandal he was on bachelor in paradise it came out that like drinks were taken advantage was taken allegedly and then corinne came out saying like i can't believe i was taking advantage like this and you were like this never happened and then they canceled bachelor in paradise and they got back together corinne never said that she never said that she just said i was a victim yeah but she said she was a victim but that was and then everybody messed up if she wasn't a victim and to say i was a victim i think it was probably her lawyer there's also a lot of stuff that we can't speak about like corinne and i things that happen and there's also a lot of shout out to trump fake news there were things that if you put a source or a ledge you can put anything out there
Starting point is 00:17:07 literally we do it every week like literally and when we had first met up her and i and we actually had a chance to discuss all of this it was like whoa this is nuts because the minute it was released instead of people caring about what happened it was it was black and white in the middle of like a very racist america we have like nazi marches like hey yeah i'm you know so it's a very it's it's a weird time you have this black man this white woman and before people even knew they were coming up with they're like yeah well based on the boys in the hood that came out in 1990 he did you know rape this girl he did do this or do that and that just sucked because i felt like that when i was found quote unquote not guilty or whatever then people thought oh she's
Starting point is 00:17:47 a girl who caught woof and now she's this terrible person right so that was yeah it's like a lose situation what is it like for your and i'm not gonna harp on this but i just can't imagine like your parents when this is all going down you're like mom dad or whatever like family friends i'm gonna go on the batch and they're like oh my god he's gonna be he's gonna be the next bachelor and then this stuff goes down and your life is literally ruined overnight by the internet like how how did you explain that to people of a different generation my dad my whole family's in law enforcement like my whole family like answer judges my dad like dea my grandpa's the most decorated fbi agent in the history of the world that's why you never had social media yeah
Starting point is 00:18:29 yeah well so like through this yeah like my dad was every single morning let me know if you want me to take care of it like you know he just you know he's very because he knows he gets it my mom was a wreck my mom was like any mother a wreck like every single day she was just a complete wreck uh but throughout the whole entire thing like i knew what happened i knew like my truth i got confirmation from people at tmz who was owned by wb like look we all saw the tapes we know what happened but unfortunately we have to do this whole cat and mouse 11 days of dun dun dun and so that was the only thing that was keeping me sane is like you know great parents great friends my castmates uh you know raven alexis well everybody had your back from the beginning
Starting point is 00:19:10 when it was happening you could tell when people were just like like standing up for him in the beginning before anybody like had any confirmation if something didn't happen like you could tell and that was like the like the humbling thing yeah is people that i knew for like 72 hours were going to bat for me and like breaching their contract like raven could have been sued and for me it was very i'm like oh my i'm waking up and you're like oh my god i didn't even have to ask people like my dad he always told me he's like if you think you're the person that you are you won't have to i won't have to do the kanye west and be like hey i'm the greatest people are gonna you know speak on my behalf and he's like you don't have to tell people like that you're a
Starting point is 00:19:47 good guy that you're not this human that they're trying to paint because other people are coming back for you and that was like super even to this day like i still thank raven and all the girls i'm always like oh my god they're like no but you're the guy who is like hyping up everybody you're so like loving and caring and for this you know for you to go through this it just sucked but I'd rather me than any of my castmates. Really? I mean, if you told me this is going to happen to, like, Eric or, like, Dean or Diggy, I'd rather me go through it because in a weird way I was kind of, like, built for it.
Starting point is 00:20:14 I don't know how. I don't even know what that means. But going through it and being able to, you know, John Mayer slow dance in the burning room, I was fine with it because I feel like that, again, it's like the support system. It's the family, the friends, and I guess I was built for it. Have you gotten a deal to write, like, a tell-all book yet? I've been in talks. Like Courtney Robertson?
Starting point is 00:20:35 Yeah. Like, I need a DeMario. How do you do that legally? Because you can't talk about certain things, right? Well, for me, I really want to talk about the media and how they wanted to paint this particular African-American. Like, I actually had a VJ from San Francisco call me, and he apologized live on air. And he goes, hey, I won't lie to you. Just based off of movies and rap music, I thought that you were, like, a terrible human being.
Starting point is 00:20:57 Then I found out about your family, and then I found out, and I'm sitting here, and I bash you every single day. Right. And then I call you on the air to apologize. Wow. And I'm like, what? He goes, yeah, I legit. The minute this came out, I'm like, he raped her because boys in the hood and because black fathers are absent. And because like all these negative stereotypes that have been built throughout the media.
Starting point is 00:21:18 And that's why people are like, well, how come you didn't go crazy? Because the media, they paint pictures of African-Americans as we're all fatherless. We all have like these crazy, crazy. So for me, I always tell myself if I was to ever get one second, two second, three seconds, i was not going to be that person who they've been portraying for all these years wow bravo it was tough like a big bravo can i just say right now you're too good for the bachelor he is i told you he's the best no and i honestly that means a lot coming from becca because every time me and jack are like we're having a person she's like can we not i feel like she's gonna
Starting point is 00:21:51 probably boycott you coming on no i begged them every time i saw a bachelor on the schedule or a bachelor person on the schedule I'd be like you guys these people are sort of mind numbing
Starting point is 00:22:00 like they're kind of crushing me and thank God God answered my prayer most importantly
Starting point is 00:22:08 everyone wants to know how you met Jacqueline I met Jack through Kay from Betches
Starting point is 00:22:15 you know the Instagram Betches yeah we have a mutual friend and we met at a bar
Starting point is 00:22:20 and we met at Mama Shelter and it was funny because Kay's like oh my god I'm gonna fight over this girl
Starting point is 00:22:25 you're gonna think she's hot did you think she was yeah i did yeah of course he was hitting on me after like five minutes no it was like five seconds it was like but like what i liked about her is that for me because i'm very like out there and can like kind of like dish it out and she was dishing it back no she's a sassy bra yeah so it was so it was cool just right off the bat like i mean we had like the best like day just but like every now and then i would just like say oh you want to take a shower this or that she He's always, like, back and forth.
Starting point is 00:22:51 Wait, do you want to take a shower today? A shot. Oh. No, a shower. He's like, wow, okay. That's second date. I will say, so when we met, I had a bruise on my shoulder from sexual experience that I had the night before, and he called me out, like, within, like, two seconds.
Starting point is 00:23:08 He's like, I know that kind of bruise. Somebody was holding you down. Yeah. Oh, my God. No, I, like, saw it, and, like, for me, I'm like, wait a minute, that's that, like. That's a finger. Yeah, that's that. So I'm like, oh, you know, I'm just going to go for it.
Starting point is 00:23:19 Good job. And I was like, hey, pretty cool bruise you got there. Like, I know it's part of a handprint. It was, like, bright red, and then I, like, kind of lined it up. I was like, wow. I was like, all right. I like that. Wow.
Starting point is 00:23:31 Okay, so what do you look for in a woman? Like, okay, so obviously there is fame now. There's fame. You're famous. And you're probably getting hit up all the time. You can date basically a lot of people. Do you want to date a famous girl? Do you want to date an internet famous girl?
Starting point is 00:23:47 Do you want to date the most influential podcaster of all time? She's talking about me. No, but, like, what do you look like? What do guys look for in a man? I'm all about family because I'm extremely close to my mother, my sister, my father, my grandmother. Like, I'm, like, I mean, we do family dinners on Sunday. I go to my little brother's basketball games, like, twice a week. Like, I'm, like, really, really big on family.
Starting point is 00:24:08 So, for me, it has to be somebody who loves their family, somebody who doesn't mind hanging out with mine. Like, we hang out, you know, with yours. I just love, like, family time. Like, as much as I love to, like, party and have fun and hang out with my boys and stuff, I love family time. How old are you? 31. Okay, so you've got a few years before you're ready to settle down. So there's nothing, for me, it's all about, like, family.
Starting point is 00:24:28 And, I mean, number two, you have to have, like, something that you, like, love. You know, whether it be, like, you're an up-and-coming, like, designer, or, like, you have a podcast, or you're, like, an engineer. Right, a passion. You know, anything, like, just something passionate about. Because I think a lot of – we are in this generation where we're all ladybosses, right? Like in whatever we're doing. And there's two kinds of guys in the world. There's guys that can handle it and that are like, wow, it makes it hotter that you have like your own –
Starting point is 00:24:59 I can go to Zoomies and like see you in the window and you have your own brand. But then there's a whole other set of guys. Which are most guys that get emasculated by it. That's true. They can't handle it on their ego. I agree. Like you're great and successful and you built this and it would scare people. I agree.
Starting point is 00:25:12 So that's kind of sad, you know? for me i love the michelle obama i love the like the oprah i love those women who because that inspires me i mean i was raised like a very strong mother like my mom always had her like you know real estate and was always like a boss and her my dad they split very early but my dad i mean my mother got my stepdad but she never like needed a man she always had like that vibe where like this is my shit like this is my and i love it like it for me like you know it's a turn-on because is nothing's greater than when you can bring your high credit score and I bring my high credit score and we combine and we join forces.
Starting point is 00:25:47 Buy a house, get a mortgage together. You know, because, I mean, I don't have an ego with that. I wish they'd put that on your bachelor page. I have buddies who, like, are legit. They're like, no, like, man, I don't know. Like, she's a little, like, too successful. Yeah. And you're like, what?
Starting point is 00:26:04 Yeah. But then you look at how they were raised and the dad is, like, some vp at a company and the mom you know stay-at-home mom she's really great mother you know great person but it's like the way you were raised like my grandmother uh was like you know principal for la you know unified school district for years my aunt runs melina healthcare like i have very dominant women in my family like so i'm and that's all i that's all i know okay so i love that so i know you guys have this problem all girls have this problem you have a million clothes in your closet yet you never have anything to wear and then you end up wearing a variation of
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Starting point is 00:27:21 our promo code hashtag lady gang to get 15 off the cost of your first styling session or your unlimited membership and look your best every single day again wishy app and code hashtag lady game to get 15 off all right we're gonna play a game now it's called the could we be newlyweds game with jack and demario so each take a slice of paper oh no and a pen hide your hide your responses from each other becca will you like keep a i don't know keep jack yeah barrier yeah barrier okay um and so basically okay so you're gonna answer them quickly and then we're gonna show each other and uh becca you could uh answer wisely yeah answer wisely i guess be for the sake of the podcast you should say your answer into the mic when you turn it around
Starting point is 00:28:11 why don't we just say the answer oh i guess we can't because we're both you have to say it at the same time i forgot and so i think we should switch on and off okay so you start becca with the question what is jack's go-to outfit yeah what is jack's go-to outfit i actually know that okay well no don't okay okay from instagram yeah you can't not know yeah i feel like everybody knows yeah okay here we go wow it's definitely not that long okay and he got detailed okay mario first go what is it okay hold it like a flip it around the crop top and the weird hippie pants yes i just have crop top i did wear a crop top in the weird hippie pants yesterday yes you did you wear it every day one pant okay next choice who wrote whom first like on social media
Starting point is 00:29:01 or we met in real life yeah but then after that who initiated contact who did the dm text okay close your but wait okay here we go yeah okay because i gave you my number because he was like trying to hit on some other stupid girl uh-oh what everyone knows you can't do that i don't know what big wangs that you're playing basketball with i thought it was a bachelor day i thought it was a two-on-one okay okay next question is it okay is it okay to kiss on the first date okay ready jack you go first yes you guys are both skanks i don't know why i'm using your horse i kiss on most of my first We know what is the minimum height you have to be to date Jack panic
Starting point is 00:30:01 Minimum height minimum I have to be to date Jack. Okay, Jack. No tomorrow's first How tall is DeMario This is crazy. This is nuts. When's the wedding? Can I wear red? Yes. Okay, this one is really hard.
Starting point is 00:30:30 No, this one's going to be hard. Okay. It is hard? What is Jack's favorite color? Oh. Oh, man. It's not hard. It's not hard.
Starting point is 00:30:42 She decorated this room. Oh, I was going to... Yeah. What were you going to say? Black? Okay. No. What?
Starting point is 00:30:49 He said pink. Yeah! All right. I was going to say, like, some fuchsia type of... There you go. I'm with you. Okay, we only have two more, and you guys are basically married at this point. I do.
Starting point is 00:30:59 It's tomorrow's dream. I know. How? I'm happy I came here. Did I tell you that Jack loves her family? They're very close. No, they do. They come to all the lady hangs.
Starting point is 00:31:09 No, we had to talk about her mother and father. She's my best friend. Yeah, like her comment section. I was like, oh, my God, your dad. Because it's cool. Have you listened to the Lady Gang podcast with Jack's mom? No, no. It's very good.
Starting point is 00:31:19 It is? You should listen to it on the way home. I will. Oh, that's cool. You'll learn a lot about little Jacqueline. All the things. My mom's name is Jacqueline as well. Is it?
Starting point is 00:31:26 Yeah. What the? Who is? My mom. His mom. How does she spell it? J-A-C-Q-U-E-L-I-N-E. I mean.
Starting point is 00:31:33 Okay, but like that's the same name. It's a sign. It's not the same name. Okay. Okay, next. Here, this might stump you. How long should you wait to have sex? Oh, my answer has changed recently.
Starting point is 00:31:44 Uh-oh. Oh. Okay. Okay. Um. All right. Hmm. I don't know
Starting point is 00:31:55 Jack's like five minutes after the first bathroom break speak from the heart follow your heart follow your heart into the bathroom
Starting point is 00:32:08 and have sex at the bar she's like when we're soulmates what'd you say? second date you like psychopaths no I hate psychopaths what is Jack's
Starting point is 00:32:19 until I know you're not a sociopath oh sociopath Oh, yeah. Okay. You missed one. That's the second date. No, it could be a year and a half.
Starting point is 00:32:27 You never know. Oh, wow. Okay, this is the last one. Final question. Make or break. What is DeMario's hometown? Oh, man. Even I don't know that.
Starting point is 00:32:37 Well, the hometown as mentioned on the Bachelor bio on Bachelor.com. Are you not from L.A.? No. Oh, I don't know. That's what I put. All right. She said L.A. What did you write?
Starting point is 00:32:47 No, I'm from Vacaville, like the Bay Area. But California. No, I did know that. Hold on. Same state, though. I'm going to give you a half point. But you've lived here for a long time, though. Yeah, I've lived here for like a decade.
Starting point is 00:32:56 Yeah, whatever. That's not a hometown living. All right, you guys. You got seven and a half. No, six and a half out of eight. 6.5 out of 10. Elena, can you please tell us what percentage it is likely that they will get married? Also, we've talked about our kids' names before.
Starting point is 00:33:17 Wait, what? We disagreed. Well, because he wants to name his kid Kanye Coachella. And Derek Jeter Jackson. I like Frankie Carter. Wait, I said Frankie, didn't I? And I agree. Those are good ones.
Starting point is 00:33:31 Well, I can't say what I want to name him. Honestly, I'm feeling vibes between you. We have vibes. Have you guys made out? Yeah. What? And you never dated? No, because we've been ships passing in the night.
Starting point is 00:33:46 She's very busy being an international clothing owner. She's a busy bee. And then whenever he goes to the bungalow, I'm working. So whatever. So maybe you can go on. It was this weekend. Oh. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:55 She was working. I thought you were working at the bungalow. Jack is now a shooter girl on this side. Yes. All right. Well, you know what? Honestly, I wrote these questions, and I thought this was all a joke, your compatibility. Now I'm seeing it in real life.
Starting point is 00:34:11 No, it's good. No, I mean, what I like is that we both go at our own flow. It's not like anything that's forced. We always like a playful flirt and text and FaceTime and all that kind of stuff. And we watched Serial Killer documentaries together. Exactly. That was really romantic. You guys watched a Serial Killer documentary and then made out?
Starting point is 00:34:29 No, but that was with Afton. It's sort of like a group hangout with Afton too sometimes. And we did facials. We did facials, watched a Jeffrey Dahmer documentary. Have you guys had any sex? Have you guys been nude? Kind of. No, not a nude.
Starting point is 00:34:45 It's like sexy pics Let me see it No She also taught me the rule What is it? Remember like the screenshot thing? Oh yeah Cause if you
Starting point is 00:34:55 If you send somebody an old picture It has the dates You have to screenshot Crop it And then it'll look like Did you do that to him? No You sent a recycled nude?
Starting point is 00:35:04 Not to him But we were talking about Like to get around I didn't know that You deserve Now that I know you You deserve a full real Brand new
Starting point is 00:35:11 Fresh moment She actually owes me one from New York But she got drunk that night And like just Shocking So she could do it today I know Every single night
Starting point is 00:35:19 She would FaceTime me Like her and Brynn And just wiling out And then I'll be like Yeah you sent me that nude She's like okay I'll send it And then the next day
Starting point is 00:35:28 I wake up like Is my phone broken? What's happening? Like what's going on Did she forget? You guys are very cute together I can't wait to get married I will get ordained
Starting point is 00:35:37 Yes Oh my god Me too And I can't wait To have the FBI At the wedding You guys have to marry me One day
Starting point is 00:35:44 Both of you We'll be like Tina Fey and Amy Poehler That would be funny It's going to happen What was that Bridesmaids when they kept going back and forth We did you We will do that during speeches Yes amazing
Starting point is 00:35:58 It'll be a group speech And we'll wear the t-shirts we shot in today We're going to save those forever You guys just shoot from like When we first met each other That was really dope When you guys were in black I believe
Starting point is 00:36:11 when you looked all fierce wait that was a while ago like when we first launched Fempire when did you see that photo you like posted it when we first
Starting point is 00:36:18 no we did yeah it was like I don't know he loves it Jack just take the compliment you're hot alright when we come back
Starting point is 00:36:25 I think about it logistically Demara's gonna help you figure out your love life ladies because he's clearly made his decision and we're back are these all love questions are they awesome okay so we have love and sex we have our listeners writing questions and we give them advice i love it okay
Starting point is 00:36:48 first question comes from reagan i have to save this to use at your wedding sorry don't throw away your paper reagan that's my goddaughter's name i have so many different i made them all different pages here right here she ruined it no i have it oh the one no but i want to keep this so if you do end up getting married that i can like use this in my speech and one up becca okay crop top i'll just frame we need to agree on kid names before we get married okay okay um first question comes from reagan reagan says my boyfriend and i have been together almost three years and live together our sex is decent like it's nice sounds so sad i have been craving wild and crazy sex i've kind of told him this before in an extremely roundabout way but he's honestly never looked
Starting point is 00:37:32 at a woman in a discriminatory or dominant way that i don't know if it's even in his being what does that mean like he like he doesn't even have the ability to be like like look at yeah how do i how do i make this sweet boy a little monster in the sheets without ruining him tomorrow man you know to be 100 they're guys that it's just not in them like i have buddies who all tell like sex stories to her we'll all just be you know discussing it amongst ourselves and they look at us as if we're animals like straight up animals and it's just it's just not in him like i mean he's probably going to just be that guy who has missionary sex his entire life and his wife is going to have to find her a tyrone or something to come and clean those pipes every couple of
Starting point is 00:38:16 months or something i mean you know i mean i have buddies who just straight up or like no i would never do that i would never choke her smack her like do anything like it's just missionary it is what it is and they you know go to sleep and i feel like if she's like mentioned it to him or tried to like nudge him if a guy wanted to be into that he probably would be yes exactly toys like stoked i have a buddy his girlfriend is like like one of those like very very attractive fitness models and she has like a big old butt and he hates it like it's the weirdest thing like legit it makes like they're definitely not gonna last but it's just i mean but you know he's one of those you know he's one of those guys where he's like oh my god her butt's just so fat it's just
Starting point is 00:38:56 so stupid like it makes no sense and i'm i'm sitting over here just drooling i'm like what you say no no it's real she's like she's just yeah she's just petite like little little petite little white girl with like this like real kim kardashian but but but it's proportion it's not like all stupid and he always all the time he's just like dude i just it's just so dumb like i just don't get it like oh like she wears these little jeans and her ass sticks out and i'm sitting here just what the hell like what but but like again just not you know it's just like that guy he's just not into it yeah and he'll never he'll never be that guy and if she tries to force him it's just gonna ruin their already bad sex life awkward sex of him like trying to choke me
Starting point is 00:39:35 okay and like he's choking wrong like two little fingers okay right here and he's like i i mean no it's gonna end really bad he might kill her actually they've been together three years and live together i would say my advice would be um to maybe like gift him a shoebox of like fun sex toys then then he'll get freaked out no and i think it's like a fun way to be like oh these are like stupid shit like you know like the handcuffs that you're like are fuzzy and like there's they're like basically a barbie house of sex toys you know like something that's fun and it's not going to scare him off like don't whip out the like double-sided dildo thank you which Which we just saw a picture of last week, which was terrifying.
Starting point is 00:40:14 That's going to definitely scare them. Like, I have a buddy like that. The little fun stuff that's like, oh, look at this. And you can start there and try to, like, wean them into it. But I don't know. He'll probably think it's weird and text his gaming friends. Be like, oh, my God. His gaming friends.
Starting point is 00:40:26 You know, my girls are weird. So break up now. Yeah, break up with them. I mean, honestly, if that's, like, an issue for you, probably. They're living together. Because it's something, like, for the rest of her life. Like, she really has to picture herself, like, 25 years from now still getting that, like, three-minute missionary. It's like, well, got to watch Jeopardy.
Starting point is 00:40:43 I love that you just hump the table. I can never unsee that. Dream life. Dream life. Winning. Dreaming and missionary sounds incredible. You're done. I'm awesome.
Starting point is 00:40:51 Don't have to talk to you again. I'm taking a bath. Bye. See you in a month. Okay, second question comes from Robin. Robin says, all these people left their names. I know. Hopefully we don't get in trouble.
Starting point is 00:41:02 My boyfriend and I have been together for a year and a half. I'm 25. He's 26. The past few months, we've been bickering all the time. We make up quickly, and the second it's over, we're back to being in our loving, happy relationship. But we can't seem to stop bickering. We both say I'd rather fight with you than be happy with anyone else. We need advice.
Starting point is 00:41:22 Help, please. That's a bit weird. I mean, Zach and I do this. What? We sort of have, like, we go through periods of time where we just, like, get into little petty arguments. But we move past them really quickly. and i think i mean i don't find that it really is detrimental in any way i think if it continues but you know after like four years sometimes that's just how you communicate like it's just
Starting point is 00:41:47 i guess like bickering is one thing but if you're getting in like these full-blown arguments about real shit yeah there's a problem yeah yeah i mean bickering i mean like my ex and we had like a lot of bickering like we were like politics like crazy like little just jabs here and there but it was nothing to where like we were like arguing i'm punching holes and stuff through the wall so i mean as long as it doesn't escalate and get to be like a serious serious problem where you're staying like at your mom's house or something like that yeah i think that's just kind of a part of you know just two different human beings right so where i don't really ever fight with my husband like we never fight but he he gets tired and moody and sassy and i get tired
Starting point is 00:42:24 and moody and sassy so like he'll ask me a question or something and i'll be like short with him and And he'd be like, oh, being sassy. Or like, he'll be short with me. Like, the other day his phone broke. And I was like, do you want dinner? And he's just like, I just can't. And I was like, oh, being sassy. And then we'd call each other out on it.
Starting point is 00:42:39 But we don't really fight a bicker because I got to be honest. I kind of just rule the roost. Like, Zach is a strong. Zach is an alpha. Right, he's an alpha. And you're also an alpha. So you guys hit each other. I look at it as like a volcano.
Starting point is 00:42:56 know like every couple weeks months whatever like you gotta like have a little explosion yeah to get back to normal like like let the steam out and then you can kind of go back because i think if it if we didn't have these i think it would probably build up to something really big and then it would be the big one well yeah because you both big one and then you're divorced and then we're divorced okay so no divorces no divorces last question comes from lola what the fuck is this lola i can't help what the lady gang writes in she said do you cry like naturally when you have sex whoa that's crazy i thought she was gonna i thought she was like me just crying just in general i do cry but i've cried after a great sex i have never ever cried after great
Starting point is 00:43:41 during sex she said when you have sex no you've cried after good sex because it was so good like When your orgasm is so, like, wah! And you just are, like, overcome with emotion. That reminds me of, like, Diane Keaton in that movie where she, like, has sex with, what's his face? Do you know what I'm talking about? Elena's just laughing because she loves you. You've never, like, you've never been, like, emotional, like, been, like, after, like, making love? No.
Starting point is 00:44:10 No. Not at all. Lola, you're not alone. Kelty's here with you. No, I mean, I think it's, like, an emotional thing. like it can be very overwhelming listen if there's a story behind it you know what i mean if there if there's like a personal struggle or whatever but just like straight up sex makes you cry i don't know i don't think that's like i feel like there are weirder things in the world but
Starting point is 00:44:34 like that's kind of weird that is weird it is sorry well i'm i'm unweirding it if you cry one time i was having sex with someone that i really really was in love with and they were awful to me and i just remember like this is gonna make no one want to ever have sex with me again so chris if you're listening please turn this podcast off i know you're listening i love this um i i was desperate for this person to love me and they didn't and my music was like shuffling remember when you just had an ipod yeah it would just like shuffle through your songs and like i have a lot of classical ballet music on my ipod which is like very weird but there's this piece of music called the dying swan from swan lake and it's like my favorite piece of music of all time and i know
Starting point is 00:45:12 This is, like, so, like, unsexual. But anyway, it's a very beautiful piece of music, even though it's called The Dying Swan. It's, like, very emotional. I'm dying right now. I am the swan. No, I know. But in Swan Lake, the part of Swan Lake in which this piece of music takes place is when she is dying and the prince is, like, his heart is bleeding open because he's in love with her and, like, she can't live on this planet. Anyway.
Starting point is 00:45:36 Wait, so were you having sex to that song you're envisioning that happening now? So having sex to The Dying Swan, no. And it was, like, we were so in love, and I was just, like, trying to keep us together, and I didn't want our love to die. And then, like, when it was over, it was, like, very emotional. And I just, like, have this moment. Like, I actually have a journal entry about it, and I was just, like, I was so emotional. Like, I don't want this to be over. I love this.
Starting point is 00:45:57 Lola, Lola, Lola. See, my story's different. I actually, I had sex with this girl I was on again, off again with in college, and, like, we had, like, had a separation. halfway through she just starts confessing that she hooked up with this other guy and like and then Dengspon came on she started crying but for some reason
Starting point is 00:46:18 my egotistical side came out and it turned into like some filthy like really good dirty talk and then it got like she told you while having sex that she hooked up with this other guy and then it like triggered something
Starting point is 00:46:34 it triggered something in me and I'm like well like like do i f**k you better and she's like yeah that's why i came back all of a sudden it got to be like it was like hard just i'm like that's when i morphed into what the media wanted me to be and then i remember just like just dominating her and we both laid there i remember she was crying she's like oh my god that was crazy and that became our thing we were like role play and talk like really weird and dirty so you you were able to move past the sleeping with other people I think he was
Starting point is 00:47:02 Almost instantly It was like The athlete in me Came out And it was like You know Like you being like I hooked up with LeBron
Starting point is 00:47:08 It's like Well shit I'm gonna be better Than LeBron Like what do you mean And it just I turned Give me that crop top
Starting point is 00:47:13 Give me those Weird pants Weird pants Yeah Like those little Hippy pants Yeah those little Weird pants
Starting point is 00:47:20 They're just bell bottoms They're not that weird They're weird pants They're bell bottoms Whatever But you look amazing in them Cause you have that Great little butt
Starting point is 00:47:27 And then the super long legs Like you have Karlie Kloss legs That are so long for your body. That was so nice but it was not true. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:47:32 Okay. Well, that's the end of this episode although I wish it wasn't ending because you are fabulous. I know. I could watch this reality show. Honestly, if you guys got together
Starting point is 00:47:40 I feel like we could sell a reality show. I do too. And we could be the ones that commentate like it would be like Hunger Games. Spectators, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:47 Or like Pitch Perfect when the people are like well, they're really going at it tonight, huh? You can just be like watching from a clock tower. Yeah, with like a sequined Or watching like
Starting point is 00:47:57 serial killer documentaries. Doing face masks. Yeah. it's so sexual I'm like I'm gonna have to have you be like really soon
Starting point is 00:48:03 LeBron did me better so that we can get like the better side of you because I don't know face mask side is like the sexiest side of you yeah it is I like it
Starting point is 00:48:11 okay well you're both looking at me so it's creepy we're gonna sign off now where can everyone follow you I know I have it written down somewhere at demariojackson underscore
Starting point is 00:48:20 yeah you need to get that changed that's the only thing I can have I don't who was demariojackson some little black kid he's like four
Starting point is 00:48:27 don't kick him off I'm legit I've reported him I've bribed him with money it's this little black kid he hasn't posted in like forever
Starting point is 00:48:35 but he'll respond to the messages and be like nah yeah he'll be like nah I'm gay he's like alright alright bruh damn
Starting point is 00:48:43 everyone on the lady gang send little four year old Demario Jackson a message yeah spam him yes spam him and be like tell him you'll send nudes
Starting point is 00:48:50 yes he's not gonna want that until he's like at least eight exactly anyway this is very illegal while we're at it follow Jack Vanek
Starting point is 00:48:58 in her funny little pants at Jack Vanek Becca Tobin wait at Becca and me Kelty Knight at Kelty and follow the lady gang at the lady gang
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Starting point is 00:49:15 we had a love connection we had a game we had serious talk we had good week bad week we had a four year old with his Instagram handle I mean we had it all
Starting point is 00:49:22 there's nothing else to give we had a sex talk we had crying I told you about Dwayne Swan this is everything you could ever want in Lola
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