LadyGang - Flash Back Friday: Justin Anderson

Episode Date: October 13, 2023

Join the hair guru and "cool blonde" hair stylist about the secret behind Jennifer Aniston's hair, growing up in an athletic Mormon family, the tragedy of Brittney Spears' hair, and the must-know hair tips you should embrace in your life! Original Airdate: May 7 2019 Check out our great sponsors!! LadyGang is brought to you by BetterHelp! Visit BetterHelp.com/ladygang to get 10% off your first! SKIMS: Get free shipping on orders over $75 at SKIMS.com - Select "podcast" in the survey and select LADYGANG in the dropdown menu!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Well, what is this? Welcome to the Lady Gang. That's amazing. Say that again. The Lady Gang. Things are about to change around here. Each week we catch up with Hollywood's hottest girl posse, Kelty Knight, Becca Tobin, and Jack Vanek. Hello, hello, hello, and welcome to the Lady Gang.

I am Becca Tobin here with Jack Vanek and Kelty Knight. Hi, guys. How does my mic sound, Kelty? It sounds pretty good today. I got a yelling at by Kelty. no you didn't i'm sorry no it was it nope nope it was no talking talking to you guys don't it wasn't even stern i'm not the bad guy i listen i'm not screamed at me i did not you're so she did it she did it i said jack i need to talk to you about your mic i don't know what the answer

is sometimes your voice sounds a little tinny it could be the fact that i drive a fiat because on my phone just maybe your car is a little bit tinny that's what i'm saying it sounded amazing on my phone just now that's true and when i was driving in my car i was like this is not 100 perfect and then i was sad and it was you i know you've been sick but this is the thing disappointment is worse than anger so yes it's like disappointed i know and i'm sorry because when we record you constantly pull my mic away from me i know and then you're telling me now that i am so maybe your levels are just too jack well our audience just turned it off because it sounds great did you notice i got a new candle personal power i didn't it's a mantra candle oh my god it's too has too long of a mantra

for me to read i stand in my power fully i don't like those prayer candles because they say you can't actually put them out or they don't work so you have to let them burn they don't work for the prayer yeah whatever it's for mantras you can blow a mantra you have to let the prayer candle go in one shot yes that's gonna take days it's awful you can't leave your house house lights on fire you sound excellent by the way i do yeah all right well you guys ready that is definitely kelty's good week but for the rest of us it's time for good week yes it is bad week oh no i have to go first because i made an observation this week that's very important it's gonna offend many love those start strong here on the lady gang here comes somebody ranting on facebook about

this yeah i know we live in la people drive like crazy they just do it everyone's angry everyone's in a hurry but there's one specific driver that acts like they're in a goddamn go-kart and that vehicular rules do not apply yes do you know who these drivers are yes Priuses oh every time I'm near a Prius and I think what it is is that because the way it feels when you drive a Prius there's no like vrooming engine yeah it really does feel like a golf cart or a go-kart so it kind of feels like you're in a game oh yeah well this is how i feel like if i'm in any car that's a normal like sedan size because i drive a zippy yeah i feel like i am on the ground playing mario kart that's that's what it is but they they're also like usually and this is a very general

statement oh you're in so much trouble already i don't care they're usually dicks like i found that people yeah the people who are the biggest dicks to me on the road are always in priuses because they're like saving the earth they're not even saving the earth like they did a study and the batteries from those Priuses are like worse for the environment than our gas I used to drive a Prius and I gotta be honest I couldn't even see out of the windshield it's the weirdest it's a weird car I'm not a fan of Priuses I hope they well I guess they're not I'm not a fan of their drivers so if you drive a Prius get your shit together that's a really good observation good week okay I you know I love finding a stereotype oh so um my good week I I don't know

if I was extra like emotional, but I started watching botched. Like I've, I've watched it here and there, but I binged and number one, I freaking love Dr. Dubrow and Dr. Nassif. They have the best bromance in the entire world. I love it. I love it. They didn't bug me at all during like 17 episodes of botched, but here's the thing that really got me. They have heart and soul. You laugh. There's a little bit of like quirky, weird people that come on, but this one woman came on who had had a double mastectomy she had had her nipples were gone and she had reconstructive surgery she was just she looked like frankenstein she called herself this she's like i look like frankenstein like my whole body's messed up they fixed her whole body like this

miracle surgery and then at the end of the episode dr dubrow brought in this tattoo artist to do the nipples like you know how shaughnessy did like on the podcast so this guy comes in and he does beautiful nipples on this woman and she stands there and she cries and she's like i don't know what i did to deserve to be able to be in this position like i was sobbing watching botched good job e nice little show if you're our bosses out there congratulations on having two wonderful shows on your network yes two we're the other one are we the other one yes yeah maybe not okay like yes nightly pop is also great which it is the lady gang is decent okay well on the basis of tv shows my favorite tv show from my youth is coming back what unsolved mysteries i don't

remember that show i don't know oh my god i couldn't watch it and then fall asleep at night oh my god it was my sleep with the lights on you never heard of unsolved mysteries come on i have a terrible it had like a really creepy host and like all they did is he coming back i think he might be dead it's not for kids but i used to watch it as a kid he got murdered and It's unsolved. So it's coming back? They're bringing it back. So it was like the original true crime show back in the day, like along with Dateline

in 2020, whatever. But they're bringing it back to Netflix for the people that did Stranger Things. So it'll be like artsy and hopefully stylistic and shit. I'm very excited. I just found out about it. So that was my bad week. My bad week. I was on the plane this morning and I went to go to the bathroom and I dropped my AirPod

into the toilet. That's it. Did you take it back out? Had to fish it out with my fingers. No, you didn't. This is now the second thing I've dropped in an airplane toilet. In your own pee or where you peed yet? In my own pee.

And many others. And yes, that was- You can't even clean an ear pod. Are you going to keep them? Yep. Because I already had to replace it because it flew out of my ear in the car one time I don't know if it flew out of your ear. That's not how they work.

Did you guys see on Instagram that they're now making clips on strings for your ear pods? And it's like we're basically back to ear plugs. What do you mean clips on strings? It's like a holder for your earpods. It's essentially the headphones. It's the string for the headphones. It's turning it back into a headphone. It doesn't plug into your phone.

That was a really fast turnaround. I feel like earpods haven't even been around for a year yet. Because everyone's losing their fucking earpods. They're like, here's a string to put it on. Oh, you mean just the headphones that were before the earpods? Like, you idiot. Those wireless headphones that I had before. And then the strings probably cost like 200 bucks.

Yeah. Apple's a genius. Apple is a genius. They build you something great with a problem on it. and then they sell it to you. And then they come out with the thing for the problem. I know like not enough Ram. Here's a hard drive for you. We can put more Ram on that computer. It's $4,000. And you're like, Oh, I thought when I got that brand new Mac book that it would actually work. I'm sorry for thinking that literally they could sell me shit. Like, but that's how Apple is.

Everything is like cool and sleek and amazing. And you're like, sure, I'll pay $2,000 for this thing. I don't think I need, I won't. I know you won't. All right. Good week. I had the most fun girls weekend ever oh my god i saw you instagramming the shit out of it i love it was like the first time also what porn den were you in that it did look like like a 70s like ron jeremy's condo well this is what i want to tell you this is my good week so i had a fun girls weekend and we stayed in a suite at the beverly hills hotel oh and we went to the beverly hills hotel yes and we went out to dinner that night at whatever the cactus i don't know what the frick it's called but it's like the big polo lounge or whatever at the Beverly Hills Hotel.

Yeah. And guess who I saw? Who? Ron Jeremy. Shut your mouth. Yes. Wait, that's really weird. That's amazing.

So we were staying in like an opium den. And then I looked and Ron Jeremy was wearing like Crocs and sneakers, Crocs sneakers with like socks and also trying to act really important. And I was like, ooh, not my place. Anyway, that was my bad. I have never not seen a celebrity at polo lounge. I've seen Ron Jeremy. so many times in life i actually have two i feel like he is all over the place around town but only

like in the beverly hills area yeah yeah he's going to the places to be seen honey in those crocs i saw him at canter's deli once yeah those are the kind of places he goes he's got gray hair now i wonder if his curtains match the hair it's i don't think the carpet matches the drapes oh whatever sorry okay bad week so we're sitting at dinner and everyone my friend Courtney's house just got broken into and like we start going around the table with all of our like crazy stories about like scary stuff yeah and I'm like oh I don't know I have this like amazing security system at my house and I can see everything but I haven't really looked at it in a while so I look at it and then there's two videos clear as day people trying to break into my house

Oh, my God. No. Yes. Do you want to see it? Yeah. In the day or at night? At night. One of them said like 4 o'clock in the morning.

No. The guy is in – Were you home? I was home. That's terrifying. The guy – I know. The guy is in like a hoodie. Did you knock in notifications of this when it was happening?

Well, I turned my notifications off because I'm an idiot. Oh, my God. Hold on. Okay. Here you go. Here you go. So we're watching. We're watching.

Okay. There's your front door. He's coming. This is 4 a.m.? 4 a.m. Did you report this? i didn't report it yet but then he walks back out he clearly has a bat he can't get in so he he leaves and then there's another one too is it the same guy different guy different time he goes

in he never comes out we have no video of him coming out i don't know did you jump the fence so anyway you live there now so then my girlfriends at the dinner table and i was like oh my god they're like well maybe they're just trying to go to the park and i was like y'all are idiots no you don't come in a balaclava and a black hoodie what's a balaclava sorry that's the canadian for like a ski mask oh i thought it was like the type of house she had i thought it was the type of baseball bat so and a bat and i was like you know what that's scary so don't worry everyone i ordered two more rings thank god for they sponsoring this podcast so i get the deal yeah i ordered two more rings so now i'm gonna have a six ring house notifications on don't mess with me i will knife

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Cox, a step ahead. requires two gig speeds and gig unlimited mobile taxes and fees excluded from price lock mobile data speeds reduced after 20 gigs now back to the lady gang we're very excited about this our guest today is the go-to guy for stars like jennifer aniston miley cyrus jillian michaels kim biesinger kelly osborne ireland baldwin and emma roberts and many many many many many many confused is this wrong what That's a little dated. Okay, give us the update.

Charlize Theron, Margot Robbie. I like those better. Gwyneth Paltrow. I like those better, too. Well, okay, I wasn't done. Tony probably gave you that old list. No. That old list just circulated.

Hold on. Listen, you've touched all these people. Can you guys let me finish my thing? Yeah, go. Sorry. Because it's in the next sentence. Okay, go. His pop...

Jesus Christ. No, I'm just kidding. Top crowd. His popular Instagram account features looks from Gwyneth, Margot Robbie and Charlize Hanai. Basically, he's part of the Cool Kids Club that we wish we were in, and he's here to make us beautiful,

share the tea, and make us all cool blondes. He loves a meme and Britney Spears. Please welcome to the Lady Gang, Justin Anderson. Welcome! I'm so excited to be here. I love all of you guys. This is a really exciting day for me. My favorite thing about it

is that you were like, on your Instagram, you're like, cool blonde. Cool blonde. Well, that's my thing. I have sweatshirts that I sell that say i'm a cool blonde because uh one of our products within my lion deepy hue is our cool blonde shampoo and condition and i've just kind of like made a name for myself in the blonde world you are the blonder yeah the blonde the blonde i have so many questions about this ask me anything okay i can i can i start with the one that i really want to know the answer to and you can lie if you have to i don't know what your nda is like does jennifer does jennifer aniston have

extensions no i no she doesn't she does not have extensions and uh jennifer is one of the people that i am really really protective of because i've worked with jennifer for years and i love her and the first thing i always say about her is whatever you want or whatever your idea of jennifer aniston is she beats it by a million she's just coolest amazing the nicest person on earth i feel so lucky to even know her be around her whatever uh but i am really private just with jennifer because jennifer she doesn't have social media yeah and um and i think she's so cool for that you know i just read an article that she did recently where she just said you know that's the one thing that she can keep private her life is so in the public and it's like she's like why

would i want to share more and so she is someone that i i'm just i don't talk about her much you know and she doesn't have any real good gossip anyway i mean there's nothing like no i don't need i didn't need you to gossip i just need to know if that hair was real because to me when she comes down to red carpet i said this on our tv show and it aired on e which is like so embarrassing please don't tell her but i was like jennifer eniston looks like she just had sex in the back of a car and a margarita like she looks that much like she's that much fun right she just looks fun she's the girlfriend that you're like let's go to cabo and she's like yeah bitch and she is she is that much fun she's so fun to be around but also i mean the credit there is to

chris mcmillan chris mcmillan has been styling her hair forever and he really is i mean i've been doing hair for like 15 years now and seeing all kinds of hairdressers and chris mcmillan is he's like a hair god like he makes hair look amazing um but also i just think it's like the way that jennifer wears it you know like her clothes her makeup nothing is ever like overdone yeah and just like you said like that messy hair it's like so effortless but it looks perfect on her and i really think it's the way she wears it she's also like a freakishly beautiful person yeah or like if any of us tried not that hard we'd look like garbage yeah yeah my other thing and i want the people of the world to know charlize someone else you work with i have to say after

interviewing hundreds of celebrities that i think charlize is the most beautiful celebrity in real life as to what she looks like in a dior ad like they're the same yeah no like sometimes like people have photoshop or they're like not as stunning in like their non-photoshopped vogue cover but she's like she's stupid she looks like human face to you're stunning in person You really are, though. Wow. Because I'm the only one that has makeup on at the table. It's true.

She never went home last night. It's last night's makeup. I tried for you. I have been wearing this jumpsuit for like three months, but I tried. No, you look great. But it is true with Charlize. Charlize is a newer client to me. I just recently started working with Charlize.

And every once in a while, I'll get like these calls to work with a certain person, and I get super excited. And she was one of those people, you know. I hate when people say like, oh, celebrities, I don't get excited about celebrities or I don't care about celebrities. Bitch, we all care about celebrities to a certain degree. And I care about celebrities in the sense that like I care about people who are successful and driven. And so I like to be around people who have, you know, Jennifer Aniston has been in this business forever. And to be in this business forever like that, there has to be something really special about you. And I like to be around that kind of energy.

You know, Charlize Theron is an icon. They're sparkly people. So I'm not going to, we're not going to sit here and just ask you to gossip about celebrity. I do want to know about you. So tell me the story. Like, how did you, like, what terrible beauty school did you go to and like intern where? How many people's hair did you fuck up in the process? You know, since I was a little kid, I've always been obsessed with hair and blonde hair in

particular, like just little kid obsessed with hair. The first art class I took, I was painting a picture of Kim Basinger's hair in the movie Batman because I was like obsessed with her. and then cut to she's a client of mine which is was another huge moment yeah like that was one when she sat in my chair like immediately had to say i'm like i've just got to say that like you've been my everything since i was like a little kid did you tell her the story were you like i was drawing your hair back in the day yeah i told her and she's the sweetest person in the world she like immediately makes you feel so comfortable and like love she's like family to

me like she i love her so much so that was like a really cool moment in my career but um when i was kid obsessed with hair always drawing pictures of hair all the time but i come from a really big mormon family and like lots of guy cousins for whatever reason and very um athletic in a very athletic family like i have a lot of cousins who played professional sports so in the back of my mind i was always like i could never tell my family that i want to do hair for a living like no way you know so i went to college pretended that i was straight i joined a fraternity i was like hanging out like being totally like a bro but in the back of my mind i'm like i want to do hair so bad i was so afraid to tell my parents so after my second year of college right before

i was going back to school i remember my parents were in hawaii where my grandparents lived and um i called them and told them i was dropping out of college and going to beauty school and my mom lost her mind like lost her mind in a bad way yeah just because i think at that point it was kind of like that was almost my way of also coming out of the closet maybe you know i think immediately she started asking me a lot of other questions and like what do you mean you want to drop out to college and do hair. Like nobody makes a lot of bombs. Yeah, exactly. Like, yeah. So now I've, uh, I've made her realize that it is a career and she's proud of me now. And we have a really good relationship. I was with my mom last night for dinner. Well, I'm sure she's so proud about

what were the first years like, because you're not, it's 10 years to be an overnight sensation, honey. I mean, you didn't come out of the womb doing Charlize Theron's hair. You know, I really think that like in life, if you do what you really, really want to do, and you're super passionate about, chances are you will be successful at it. I mean, of course, there's a lot of, like, there's chance and luck and, you know, you have to really be driven and whatnot. But I did really well really quick. You know, I was really young when I started doing hair.

I knew, like, three major colorists in L.A. that I wanted to work for. And so I went and assisted all of them, kind of learned their techniques. And then I just – it happened pretty quick. My first big break was Kirsten Dunst going from red to blonde for Antoinette and then back to Red for Spider-Man. And I did that. And what happened was I was an assistant, just went on the floor.

I worked at this really cool, posh salon at the time. And it was the end of the day. And somebody called and said, Kirsten does and needs her hair done now. Is there anyone that could do it? And everyone was like, I'm out or whatever. And I'm like, I'll stay and do it. And so I stayed in the salon

until like one o'clock in the morning. I did that. And then the next week Vogue reached out to me and said, we want to write an article about you. And so that was just like, I was like, I was literally like 22 years old or something crazy. And they like in Vogue magazine put a picture of me you know and this whole thing and it's so kind of like went from there um congratulations man

that's cool that's really cool and it's a an act of bravery to be who you really are you know what i mean it's not easy to to to defy your family's wishes or whatever and then go on and do your life and then be so successful that you're like such an inspirational story that's really cool okay let me talk about britney spears so you have a lot of celebrities but anyways britney but you have two instagram handles both of them are like gold popping off i mean i'm gonna say it's gold insane honestly i love you but fuck jerry the fat jewish follow justin anderson like i die every day i a little death in the best i love that i have so much fun with instagram i think instagram should just be fun and i have so much fun with it i never have any sort of filter

yeah and um can i talk about your trip to new york recently oh my gosh is that just a shit like watching like i can't even explain it was he you were drunk the whole time i was drunk for 12 days straight and the funny thing is like i put on the i put on this you know on instagram you know like when i share i only want to share if something's like funny or i'm like yeah yeah i don't just post everything yeah but when i'm drunk i post everything you know so i think a lot of people who look at it are like this guy is like a drug addict or an alcoholic or whatever but but i have a very balanced like when i'm back in town like i go to 10 o'clock you were doing yoga at 5 a.m this morning yeah i went to yoga this morning at 5 a.m i know your life no thank you

stalker here would like to ask you it's so good you're missing every you have to follow him so we love this so on the hair instagram is a lot of the hair and the clients and the photo shoots and all the beautiful stuff and then your justin anderson account is like meme city and there's just a lot of britney spears is what i noticed and so i want to know like have you ever like stalked britney to get to do her hair like what's going on no because she needs some help you guys i think the thing is is i love britney spears i think you know britney spears was when i was in high school she was just like everything right and i've been obsessed with her forever i root for her no matter what but i don't really want to do her hair i just think

i'm so afraid that it'd be like a huge letdown it's like meeting your idols yeah and here's the thing with um britney i feel like britney's one of those people like she'd get in the chair and give you five minutes to do it and it's like i've heard that yeah i've heard she gets haircuts standing up walking around the house yeah and i like i can't i can't deal with that well i'm sure she has like her like childhood friend you can't put your work on that no no no and that's the thing i wouldn't even want to claim it or anything and um so no i like to kind of keep that separate But is it hard for you as a true Britney stan to see sometimes her hair? It actually kills me to see her hair.

Yeah, it kills me too. Like, it kills me. And then when it's good, it's so freaking good. So you're like, I don't know. You know how to have good hair. Yeah. Why don't you just keep it? I just really think that she is, like, lazy.

I think she's, like— She just gives no f— Yeah, before her show, I think it's, like, five minutes, a little tease, and she goes— Oh, she—no, halfway—you've seen her show. Three times. You know how— The biggest one, three times. Were you part of the era of when she was doing the show that, like, halfway through, she put her own pony in?

Oh, yeah. And then she would just keep cranking it. But I love a good ponytail crank. Like, that cheerleader crank is my favorite thing in the world. She gets a little bit sweaty. And the extension is starting to, like, flop. Oh, my gosh. Yeah.

She puts it up. She puts it up in her own pony. Like, she's a fucking battle around her wrist. She's, like, in the middle of, you better work, bitch. And she's like, oh, I think I feel like a pony now. And then it just gets wonker wonker. And then the best part of this is she does this in effort. This is, like, part of the show.

Yeah. It's not like she just did it one day because she was, like, sweating. The best part about it is that girl has a bob like me. Like, it's only this long. And so the extensions are all tied up in the cranked pony. Yeah. And then the real hair length is all down at the back. But then all of us just, like, forgive her for it.

And the thing that I always say about that is it's, like, we can hate on Brittany all we want. But it's, like, there, again, there's something about her. There's no one else like her. She's so lovable. Even when she's, like, f***ing up, it's, like, you're just, like, aw. And I hear from people who have worked with her, it's like the minute she kind of like looks you in the eyes, you're like, oh, wow, that's a fucking star. There's just like a twinkle in her eyes. Even, you know, as crazy as she can be, whatever.

I mean, there's something there. Yeah. There's no one like her. Yeah. There's no one like her. Sorry, Ariana. Oh, I love Ariana. Don't say that.

She's healthy. Listen, no, I love Ariana. Don't. How dare you? She's not the same. Not the same level. Never will be. Who will be?

Someone tried to say to me the other day that Dua Lipa was. And I was like, oh, my God. It's Dua Lipa's career like happening. Brittany Spears, everybody knows every one of her songs. I don't know a Dua Lipa song. Also, watch a Brittany Spears video. Oh, my God. For days.

She also became a star during the time of TRL, music videos on TV. Boy bands, that whole thing. Everything now is so segregated because you can go on the internet and you watch what you want. But back in the day when Brittany was coming up, it was forced down our throats so everyone knows everything. It's like that's the last of that era. my next question perfect segues what you just said though what is in general you work with all these famous women we are trying to become famous women i mean becca's on her way becca's on her way but we have we have you know we're trying to like make it you know and we want to be in the

cool kids club so what is something that is the through line between all these famous women you work with if you had to say like a characteristic or something we should be doing that we're maybe not i can honestly say thirsty i can it definitely is thirsty what do i need to change starting tomorrow no i mean this is like what's the through line of these powerful women because it's not easy to live in hollywood and to be at this level for a long time a serious like dedication to their craft you know i look at a girl like margot robbie who like is on top of the world right now when she's sitting in my chair i mean she is studying scripts she's on the phone with agents she's working deals like when she's getting her hair done she had like a meeting with her production

team and she like she's in it for the right reasons she loves like the the acting part like she's not worried about the red carpet and all that kind of stuff i think with jennifer anderson same type of thing she's obsessed with acting she loves it loves movies charlize the same type of thing a chelsea handler she's so like dedicated to her craft and like um but then i think the thing that makes these women i you know when i name off those names it's like whoa those are really big freaking names you know my cyrus is another client of mine and when i think about these girls who stay in this business for a really long time they do really well i think another thing is they're really professional and they're really really nice i think if you're just like a dick in

this town like you float away it's like we hear about these people who like are on set are just like a nightmare and hollywood's small like people think about that they don't want to work with you again if you're like it's really fun to be around like people want to do more movies with you more projects so it's like i think that that's a lot of it like being professional yeah i've worked with these young actresses that i thought at the time were gonna be like a huge deal right and they'd be in my chair and they were if i could like talk about certain people but that's just mean but like certain people just nightmares and they just go away and they'll never make and they could be the best actress in the world but it's like when you act like that like no one wants to work with you

i love that it's so true yeah like those mega mega stars are really nice when is palter on the set of glee actually like everybody else totally you're like then why is this like 22 year old twat acting like she's too busy to be here no and that's like an insecurity i think i think they think that that's how they'll like act like a movie yeah and you're so delusional to think that miley said something to me that dolly parton told her said you know whenever you're on a set make sure that you talk to the lighting people the sound people like treat everyone the exact same and she told that like as a young kid and not like stuck with miley forever and miley's just like that like talks to all my assistants names like you know she's just i think that's really

important. She's looking good. Good right now. She's like, did you do that wedding color? The wedding hair color? Yeah, so I've done Miley's hair for a really long time. Did you do Wrecking Ball Miley? Yeah, when it was all bleached and all that kind of stuff. So we've grown it out. We've gotten it to a really healthy place. It's beautiful. It looks good. I'm really proud

of her right now. She's the best she's ever looked. She looks so good. And happy. And happy and fulfilled. You can tell behind your eyes. You're the person you want to be. You know when Katy Perry cut her hair off and she's like, this is who I want to be now? And I was like, I'm not sure. She must be Miley. With Miley. with Miley like Miley's hair all grown out and her I was just like oh you're exactly where you

need to be right now right I love that because women it's cool to see it because we've watched her grow up but there is something that happens in your like later 20s early 30s where you like really figure out who you're gonna be and it's so awesome it's such a cool thing um you I'm not talking about just celebrities but in general you hear the weirdest shit because I know when I go get my hair done it's like when you're like verbal vomit garbage you know like you tell the stories they're like you know about all the gonorrhea and everything so i want to know what is the craziest story any client has ever told you you don't have to say the name or who it was like from behind the chair that you were like you wish that you could call someone to tell them

immediately or that maybe you did um like with someone like i'm cheating on my husband with an alien or like you know whatever it is i really do hear like the craziest things but like nothing stands out to me i think like um nothing really stands out it's such a boring answer but like i can't think of something right off the top of my head are people using you as a therapist too oh yeah yeah all the time that must be tough it is really i'm trying to do imagine trying to like do a craft like do your craft part of it somebody well and that's something that a lot of people don't understand i mean i'm not trying to compare myself to like a famous artist or something but imagine if you were like painting a painting yeah and someone was asking you for advice through the

whole thing and i really i'm obsessed with hair color like no matter what happens in my life you know with dpu is my line with my partner don and we have this brand and we're building it it's growing really fast we sell our stuff at ulta beauty and sephora and nordstrom's and we're growing no matter what happens with that business i will always do hair color because i love it it's like my passion i'm in my happy place but sometimes when i'm like painting hair and i'm like doing it and someone's just chatting my ear off i'm like you need to know that i'll do much better work if I just kind of focus on it unless it's like a natural kind of a conversation but the thing that drives me crazy and this is just being really honest when there's new clients in my chair like

they'll like they do like an interview process where they're asking me a million questions you know and you're not in that that mode when you're at work you know yeah but like Becca the first time Becca sat in my chair I mean we were immediate friends it was kind of because Becca Morgan Stewart's a good friend of mine too but you guys have a similar personality and it's like you know when you meet someone it's just like easy conversation that's fun for me and easy I can do hair and just keep chatting but it's like when they like are interviewing you that gets hard what's been the hardest thing for you starting a new business because it is the dream right like you're first you want to do hair then you want to be a celebrity stylist then you want like

vogue to talk about you and then you want your own line like that's the next step and so what has been the challenge because i'd love to compare notes on like us branching out and making lady gang and like making our business and your business like it's scary right no i mean you guys get it you guys have your hands in so many different things and i think that's the hard thing That's the thing that scared me or scares me the most because I feel like in order to be really successful at anything, you've really got to put a lot of time into it. Right. So for the past three years, I feel like I've been pulled in so many different directions. So just recently, I completely stopped taking clients.

I don't do any salon days. So I just take care of my celebrity clients, to be honest. And then I work with a lot of influencers for my brand to help promote the brand. Yeah. But I don't do any clients. Do you go to their house now? No. So I have a private space that I work out of in Beverly Hills.

It's so dope. It's really, it's a cool house. Becca's been there. It's super cool. It's super private, so I can bring all my A-list celebrities in there. And I don't do any house calls, though. Like Chelsea Handler reached out, and she was like, oh, I need a house call, whatever. My assistant, who's my sister, was like, Justin doesn't do house calls.

She's like, who the fuck does Justin think he is now? But the thing is, it's like, I just, you know, you get to a point where when you're- Can't establish it that you're going to do that. And you get to a point where- Some people take advantage of it. Yeah. And then you're spending four hours in traffic when you could be doing hair. Exactly.

It's all about time and all that kind of stuff. People ask us a lot to like, we can get the girls just come to us to podcast. And I was like, no, no, no. It really comes down to time. And it's like, it's all about your energy. Like I am worn the out. Like I was working seven days a week for sure. Like house calls, salon days, building the DP Hugh brand, all that kind of stuff.

And I was like not having fun. I wasn't a happy person. And just, this is the first two weeks I'm not doing the client thing. And I feel like I have so much more energy and I feel like, yeah, I feel like that's when you really grow. What's your next project? Um, so we have some amazing products coming out in the spring that I'm the most excited about.

Cause it's like my partner and I have been working really hard on coming out with these new, we basically started with all of our base, like our shampoos. We have our ACV rinse, like all the kind of standards. What's an ACV rinse? This is, wait, let me tell you a story. I have psoriasis and I posted on the Lady Gang Facebook group. It's like 25,000 girls in there. And I was like, you guys, what am I supposed to do?

Like, my scalp is a disaster. I don't want to be on steroid cream. Like, 500 girls wrote back, the rinse and your scrub. Yeah, the AC. So it's an apple cider vinegar-based rinse. And it cleans your hair without, like, stripping the good oils out. It doesn't wreck your color. But what we found is that people with scalp issues, it's completely fixed them.

And, you know, we sell our products on HSN, which also, since I was a kid, was always a dream of mine to do the Home Shopping Network. And now we do it. but um but so the thing is i can't really say that i can't make the claim that it's going to fix your scalp issues but we have people tell us that all the time allison hannigan the actress you know the red funny actress like her um daughter she's like it completely fixed her scalp and it's like it's amazing that's what everyone is saying so everyone can use it or just people with scalp issues no everyone can use it and it's just to clean your hair and it's like like a once a week or no you you completely i want people to replace their shampoo with i

haven't shampooed my hair in years your hair is so amazing by the way i'm just i'm like i want this color here's the thing i feel like since we were young everyone always taught us like wash your hair every day shampoo it but it's kind of like if you had your favorite t-shirt and you washed it every day it would like break down the color would fade so i don't get why we all shampoo our hair so much so the acv rinse replaces shampoo it cleans your hair without stripping the good stuff out and once you start doing that your scalp will balance itself out and you won't get so greasy and oily like i never have oily hair like i do hot yoga every day and i'll just rinse it with the acv and it's like because your your scalp will take care of itself we start to produce all those oils

because we're shampooing it so do you do conditioner after that every time you so when you very first start using it if you have like dry ends put a little bit of conditioner through the ends but the healthier your hair gets like we also really don't need conditioner if you have healthy hair you shouldn't have to gunk a ton of conditioner on it i always i just feel like less is more. So the stuff that I'm excited about, we have like really cool now, like, uh, innovative products that are coming out in the spring stuff that I'm really, really excited about. My really good friend, Kristen Cavallari and I, uh, created this product that I can't wait to share with everybody. And I've known Kristen since she was a baby. She was one of my very first like celebrity

clients, you know, after Laguna beach. And so I've been with her through everything. And, um, but we created this product together. It's a blonde product and I'm so excited about it. And We talk about it on the show, and that's part of it. And when the show airs is when the product will launch. Oh, my gosh. That's going to be amazing. So I'm really excited about that. That's amazing.

Before we run out of time, what is one thing that you wish you could tell all of our listeners? I mean, I know everyone's head is different, but, like, if you could say one thing to the girls, like, here's my advice to you from me to your head. And, like, there's a lot of girls, let me preface this with saying, like, living in places that are not Los Angeles. They don't have access to, like, you. A U, a Sephora, or like even like super expensive products. Oh, no. I am so – I don't think that you need a ton of money to look beautiful. I don't think that you –

Yeah. Yeah. I don't think you need to be in LA or New York. And I think the most amazing thing about social media nowadays is I travel a lot because all of our products are in all Ulta beauty stores. So I go and visit some of the Ulta beauty stores across the country. And I can tell you that like now in airports and like wherever I am, like there's pretty hair. And I really think that it's happening because of Instagram. Like, girls are on Instagram, and they're seeing, like, pretty, like, remember, like, years ago, like, probably, like, 12 years ago, you'd go to different cities, and there'd be, like, those chunky Kelly Clarkson highlights.

Yeah, and you wouldn't know. It's like, how do these girls not know any better? Because they don't know. They don't know any better. But now because of Instagram, like, people have pretty hair everywhere. So the one thing that I can say, I feel like when you see really bad hair in a lot of places, especially, like, in L.A., where there's a lot of good hair colors, it's usually the client's fault. Like, people are saying, like, I want more of this, or I want to be blonder, I want to be blonder. And all of a sudden, this girl has like this crazy blonde hair.

And you're like, how does she not know that that looks terrible? Well, she's telling her hairdresser to do it so much. So if you find somebody whose work you love and you end up in their chair, listen to them. Like if they're saying like, girl, like, because the first time you get highlights, it's like an addiction. And you're like, I want to go blonde. I want to go blonde. I want to go blonde. And it's not necessarily the best look for you.

So like listen to a professional. I like that advice. Okay. When we come back, Justin's going to fix your life because he just fixed your hair. I'm Lola. And I'm Megan. And we're the hosts of Trust Me, cults, extreme belief, and manipulation. We both have childhood cult experiences, and we're here to debunk the myths about people who join them and show that anyone can be manipulated.

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closer to my dream job. But recently I was asked to come in for an interview for a position in communications with my city's mayor. I'm not sure if I have the job yet, but if I do get it, I'm not sure what to do. This job with the mayor's office would be a better title for way more money, but I don't know if it's something that I really want to do. My family is pushing me to really take this job because of the money. I don't want to give up my current job and burn bridges with my employer, especially since it's a field that I've been dreaming about for years. Do I choose money over my passion does it say how old she is or not 26 choose the money i say chase the dreams i feel like we i just i feel like even like in relationships if you're

not happy move on if you know what you really really want like wait for it to happen we get one life i really really believe in that um i think it's really hitting home for real what part no it's just so true we have one life like stop sitting around like compromising i feel like we do it every day i feel like everyone does i work with so many women and you know since i was a kid i've been obsessed with i just love women i love being around lots of women you know i love powerful women i like when women make decisions for themselves nothing makes me more sad than i if a woman's sitting in my chair and she like hates her life or she hates her husband or she hates her job and it's like we all hate our husbands yeah you don't have to though i know

you're kidding but i feel like it's just that thing like especially now like we're in this time where it's like we get to be happy like you really can there's lots of options there's so many options you know you can be an influencer tomorrow just buy some followers and you're not please stop in please stop being an influencer that's the one thing i want to go away more than anything i think if it comes to you you can be an influencer if you're chasing influencer life If it's not good, the amount of interns we have that are like, oh, I'm like, you're studying communications. You want to be a journalist like me or whatever?

And they're like, oh, I just, I really want to be a YouTuber, but can't do that at school. I told you yourself for career day and like elementary schools, they had to tell parents to not let their kids say that they want to be YouTubers. Like that's how bad it is. But you just said something that kind of, if like, if it comes to you that it's like, yeah, you shouldn't have to try so hard to be an influencer. You know what I mean? And it's like, and it's like, it's killing Instagram for me.

I watch this stuff and I'm just like, oh my God, like I can't handle it. You know, you're the person to follow if you can loathe Instagram, but you can't stop. Yeah. Because at the same time, because at the same time, I love Instagram. So I don't want everyone to ruin it for me. I'm like, can everyone stop? Like when people say things like doing their social media breaks and stuff, I'm like, do your social media break and don't talk about it.

It's fun. Cause the rest of us, I didn't notice you went away. I didn't notice. I wasn't missing you. I already unfollowed you. The thing that's so bad too, if you're looking at Instagram and it's putting you in a bad mood, it's like, because you're comparing your life to other people. It's like, I feel like my parents, that's one thing they did really well with me and

my siblings is like, don't be jealous of other people. You know what I mean? Just focus on yourself. But those people who look at you and are like, I want that body. Why don't I have that house? It's like, then go out and work for it, you know, or appreciate it. Get your ass off Instagram. Or don't and accept what you got.

Just accept what you got and stop following them. It's so easy. But don't take a break and tell us all so that we have to comment like, don't go, please. And like, why? What happened? It's like, bitch, stop. Nobody died. Like, it's fine.

I kind of want you to like spend some amount of time. I don't know what's appropriate yet, but like doing these things, like just everything that's so awful about Instagram. I want you to do it. Like what? Oh my gosh. Like I'm going to take a break. Like it class.

But then be like, at like three in the morning, couldn't help myself. You like post a story from in bed. Yeah. Well, and the other thing that I hate that when, when people like tease things, you know what I mean? I'm like, we hate it. We hate it. Justin.

It drives me. Working on something super exciting. Can't wait to tell you guys. It's like, no one cares. It's never gone. Yeah. I'll have like a cousin that has like a thousand followers. A thousand followers is great.

No followers don't mean anything in the game of life. But like when they have like a small following and they're like, you're literally just talking to mom. Yeah. It's like call mom and tell her. No, you're talking to your mom. and three bots but what is that

there's nothing worth it was narcissism Instagram is narcissism dude we had our own these three nobodies had our own first season of a television show and we made it through without being like filming something special

today can't wait to show you we barely even posted about it when it was on our producers were like you guys there's a show tonight does anybody want to post about it we're like does anybody care The thing that bums me out about that, though, is, like, there are times where it's, like, is that going to affect people like us who, like, we should be putting stuff out like that. But when it's happening, hey, guys, turn on your TV. I'm on it right now.

But the problem is it's, like, when you're teasing shit and you're doing this and this and that, then when something important happens, it's watered down. Nobody gives a shit because it's being watered down by everybody else's stuff. So what you're saying is when the new DP Hue product comes out for blondes that I'm like now really excited about because I'll be back blonde by then, are you not going to do like four days, three days, two days? No, you do the pictures where you're like – And it's just Kristen with like ponytail. Yeah. Oh, my god. I could never.

It's happening. Okay. Next question. We're running out of time. Okay. Second question. Where is it? Oh, this one's bad.

Subject. No, I'm not going to say subject. But she just says, I've been in a wonderful relationship for almost two years. He's super into fitness and his health. At the start of our relationship, that wasn't my priority. But about eight years into our relationship, I said I'm going to make some lifestyle changes unrelated to him or our relationship, but for myself. I joined Weight Watchers, and over the next 10 months, I lost 40 pounds. Good job.

But I have plateaued and haven't lost any weight in the last four months. my boyfriend says that i look good but that i would look better if i lost some more weight obviously i wish i could lose more but i want to focus on self-acceptance and being proud of myself what do i do go f**k yourself man the f**king guy yeah no because that only gets she said it was a new relationship right no no they've been together like over eight years no two years two years oh but eight years ago she started no eight months ago eight months ago she started into our relationship she was making lifestyle changes but my thing is like if he's saying that stuff now it's gonna get worse imagine 10 years into the baby and if she starts listening to him

and like going to him for validation it's gonna keep going like you'd look better if you got a nose job and a boob job and this he's that guy that i caught at flywheel who just moseyed on in from largemont off the street and he's in like street clothes and i'm standing there like getting ready to go to class and he's like so um how is this for snapbacks and the instructor's like excuse me he's like my wife she's pregnant is this is this the best place for a snapback to get her body back and i was like oh my god oh i thought you meant like a snapback around town trying to find the best way for his wife to get her snapback wow there's nothing more disgusting than a man that cares cares about a woman's body guys

in my like women will sit my channel like my husband says that i should be a little bit blonde i'm like your husband's a homo like if he's talking about your blonde hair like first of all but the thing is i'm like i really i like i genuinely love my boyfriend so much like i mean the first time in my life i'm in a relationship where i really really really love him and believe me i'm not like all like pollyanna about relationships like i would talk shit about him but they're really good i would never say something that would like maybe put something into his head that like something was off about him you know what i mean and it's like that well he's also perfect he's really pretty actually he's like perfect and furthermore when you really

love someone you actually lie to them yeah do you know what i mean when you really love someone you're like my husband is so tall he's like six five and he can gain and lose 15 pounds in a day i swear to god like we'll go on vacation and he's not eating as much or like we're doing something and he'll literally lose 10 pounds but he's like that's his thing he like really hates it about himself and he'll be like do you think i've lost weight and like sometimes i mean i don't even fucking know at this point but like i would never be like yeah yeah like even if i thought he did i I wasn't going to say, yeah, you're looking so skinny right now because I know that's like a sore spot for him.

Just like when I'm like, do I look bloated? I don't want you to answer guys and girls need to realize that. That's the one thing that more girls need to realize because clients will say it to me all the time because I have such a problem with that. But like girls come in like, you're so skinny. What happened? I'm like, that's so rude. Yeah.

That's a common girl thought. Yeah. Guys want to be strong. Right. So it's just like, and I know they don't mean any harm by it, but bottom line, I mean, going back to that, it's just like, be careful with your words. everyone's sensitive yeah exactly dick okay last question says it's from real artist reality star wants my man she says my boyfriend of almost a year has a very close friend that's a girl

by close i mean they do the following go out for dinner she visits him at his work and they text about they text constantly non-stop about everything including our relationship which i'm not okay with because of my suspicions i've read his phone and i found nothing but i do think that the way that they chat so often is unusual and their nicknames make me feel uncomfortable aka baby and boo this girl is also a reality tv star z-lister who has a reputation of sleeping around and gets papped with him my friends ask questions and wonder why they hang out so much and i feel like it makes me look stupid i've told him i'm cool with him hanging out but there are boundaries and i hate having to always explain the relationship to my friends and family i've

recently read his phone again and found out she's been complaining about me to him because she feels quote awkward around me and he did not defend me at all and instead said i don't know what to do you're both my friends friends i had the impression that we were madly in love as he always talks about the future and marrying me he is truly a decent guy that treats me like a princess and i trust him a thousand percent my questions are how do i bring it up what i found on his phone without him knowing i've read his phone and what do i do about this thirsty z-lister who is obsessed with him a if she's on the z-list she's not accidentally getting paparazzi because I'm on the W list and I have to call those bitches myself. Okay. So

she's not accidentally get second of all, this doesn't sound like a guy that's madly in love with you. He's calling you his friend. He's calling you. He's a loser. He's not cute. And also like, it's just, it's a no. And so you don't need to worry about how you got into his phone because you're not going to be in his phone at all. You're going to break up with this guy and you're going to go find someone that's a little bit better. Do you really want to be with a guy that wants to be friends with a lame-ass reality TV star like us. Ours is called a talk series. It is not a reality show.

Okay, bitch? Thank you. Thank you. No, what? Also, baby and boo? No, thank you. No, it's like you have a gut feeling that something's off, which it is. They're probably hooking up.

Yeah, for sure. All right. On that note, D.P. Hugh is sold at Ulta, Sephora, HSN. We have it at Nordstrom.com. Nordstrom.com. I got mine on Amazon. Really? Yeah.

Is that fake? Should I not? That might be fake. Not fake, but somebody probably sold it to you for more expensive then. Oh, maybe. I don't look at prices. Don't get on that. You're so rich, you know?

I'm so rich. All this work you have now. We're so proud of you. And when this finishes, we're going to try to get Justin to put something in our lady box. Oh, my gosh. of course i'm gonna get the apple cider vinegar thing right now we're gonna send you so much stuff it's good so excited oh my god i'm so excited we're so proud of you and make sure to

follow justin justin anderson color if you want the hair experience justin anderson if you want the meme experience probably follow them everybody wants the memes probably follow them back um we're so excited to have you please come back again and again and again and again and again uh this was an honor i honestly love all of you guys you guys are so amazing and i really really like what you guys do for women. I love how women look up to you guys. I think you guys are so awesome. They shouldn't. Thank you. That's true. Thank you. Thanks, guys.

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