LadyGang - FLASHBACK FRIDAY: Kaitlyn Bristowe

Episode Date: June 9, 2023

"Bachelorette" star Kaitlyn Bristowe and Shawn Booth still haven't set a date, but you'll hear plenty of wedding details as the LadyGang inquire about everything from number of bridesmaids to location to wedding hashtag to sex on the big night! Kaitlyn also shares deets on the proposal, the "Bachelorette" season she filmed with Shawn & why she ultimately chose him, and the logistics of joining the "mile high club!" Original Air Date: February 8th, 2016 Check out our amazing sponsors!!! Nutrafol: Grow thicker, healthier hair by going to Nutrafol.com and use code LGPOD to save $10 off your first month’s subscription Just Thrive: Get 20% off a 90 day bottle of Just Thrive probiotic and Just Calm at JustThriveHealth.com with promo code: LADYGANG ThirdLove: Visit ThirdLove.com to get $15 off your first purchase!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Hey, Lady Gang, welcome to Flashback Friday, where we bring some of our favorite Lady Gang episodes from the vault to you in the feed. We have over 600 episodes of this podcast, and whether you're an OG and you've heard this episode before, or you're a new listener and we're just bringing this up and you had no idea we had this person on our podcast, well, you're welcome. Small caveat here, we are an imperfect group of trio of ladies, and we've been podcasting for almost six and a half years. If something we said in this podcast doesn't align with Lady Gang 2020 please give us grace for instance there was a period on lady gang where i was not into taylor swift it was a reputation era i wasn't feeling what she was begging but now i'm like a swifty

again and so i just don't want you to hold me to that because we're all growing and learning and our opinions change pretty much every day without further ado welcome to flashback friday well what is this welcome to the lady gang that's amazing say that again the lady gang things are about to change around here each week we catch up with hollywood's hottest girl posse kelty knight becca tobin and jack vanik hello everyone it's tuesday and you're getting a new episode we're so excited you're joining us thank you so much for going to itunes and subscribing i actually had a friend this week that said i mean i see that you're doing a podcast but i don't really know what that is duh they don't know what a pod no they didn't understand so you go to itunes you

have to subscribe you're going to get a new episode every tuesday or you can go to podcast1.com and we're just so excited that you guys are loving this so much so many people writing in and sharing with their friends and that means so much to us but really we know why you're here why are they here becca um the booze nope the i was gonna say the champagne too oh this is up see you guys it's been a long week and it's only tuesday it's time for good week yes it is bad week oh no okay so who wants to go first for good week bad week the best part of the show that we've been told uh i'll go yeah okay so um the other week becca was uh highlighting some of the things that our fans were sending in and yeah saying and we love our fans period in the spaghetti so first off i have

two things to share one of them i just found like five minutes ago when i was peeing and checking my phone like we always do and uh we have okay i don't have my glasses on so i can't really see l michelle on twitter so hopefully everybody's listened to all of our episodes but we had the episode about putting period blood in your man's your man's food and then he's supposed to fall in love with you and whatever right which i think is ridiculous and i hope nobody's actually done it but so she goes i can verify the blood thing i have done this only i put it in his meatballs then he went back to his ex-wife oh okay so i don't really know if that works i have an idea should we just do a cookbook with using your period blood oh my god i bet you that exists

somewhere what's a good name for it um cooking with cooking that meal of the month or cooking with flo cooking with aunt flo yeah perfect that's horrible flo's in town i got ideas i got ideas okay well we love love her that was an amazing story about your life but so it's tara nicole sent us a link to this website called dicksbymail.com and you can send people a bag of gummy dicks back to dicks anonymously okay that's pretty good but i thought it was gonna be like like a real like a prosthetic dick like a yeah like a dildo just like a real door just like a suction one like on the ground yeah like a real rubbery dildo i kind of want to do that honestly first you could name the cockroach after your ass and then the bag of dicks like we have

all the ammunition we need for life yeah yeah so that was your good week that was a good week um so okay so my bad week you know i think a lot of people are bummed out that i'm not like the single girl of our group anymore. I know I am. Apparently I'm not going to have any, you know, really embarrassing, awkward encounters, but that's not true because I ran into the last guy that I dated at the gym the other day and it was the most horrific experience. Tell us everything ever. I need to know. So did you have crotch sweat? No, no, I just had gotten there. I was like wait did i maybe no so i dated this guy for like a couple months and he moved right near me like a mile away from me and we go to the same gym so i'm like you know i'm gonna run into him

probably at some point and i'm walking into the gym and i was like you know it'd be so weird if i you know if i ran into him but i won't because he works out at 5 a.m i know this for a fact it's fine and as i'm like saying this thought in my head i look up and he's one foot in front of me you manifested him i literally manifested this horribly awkward encounter and he okay so it was laundry day so i was wearing like some 10 year old old nasty leggings so you weren't wearing your like fabletics or something that's like your cute outfit i wasn't wearing fabletics i have a such a cute victoria's secret little workout outfit i could have been wearing i was wearing a holy pair of leggings a sock that was like a crew sock and then another one that was

like up to my calf sock nice i hadn't showered in two days and you know it was just it was bad and the last thing that i said to him i was so uncomfortable and awkward that the last thing i said was like go get your swell on and but you don't care about him i don't care but it's yeah but you know what i don't care about any of my exes truly but if i saw them and i looked bad that would upset me okay i looked really bad i was just uncomfortable and awkward it's just one of those things that i don't really want to happen every day yeah and then the worst part was i go upstairs and he's downstairs i'm like okay that's over don't have to worry about that anymore and then i see him walk over and he

sits on the mat behind my elliptical and starts stretching right behind me naked stretching i wish. No, I don't wish. But yeah, that was awkward. And I didn't look good. It looked like a sack of garbage. Kelty. Oh my gosh. I'm so excited about this week because I feel like the past couple weeks, my good week, bad week has been mediocre. Nope. Put it back on point. 2016 is bringing it home. I'd like to start with my bad week. So I was at a movie junket. For those of you who don't know movie junket is basically where they put the stars of a movie in hotel rooms and they take out the bed and they basically set up a little studio with chairs and all day long for eight minutes at a time they shuffle in all the media from around the world so it's like literally everyone comes

for one day and angelina jolie sits there for 12 hours and does a movie junket so it's a movie junket for um a new disney movie that's coming out and um chris pine so hot so chris pine is the star of the movie and he's a super babe so i was excited to you know interview him he's always like a fun guy and so it's very uh busy time as usual and i probably didn't have quite enough time to prepare and really wrap my head around this and it was very early in the morning so i'm driving to the the shoot and i'm like okay okay okay and i get there and then i look at my paperwork and it just says like chris slash bernie and bernie's the person the care real life character he played in the movie and so i'm sitting there and i'm like okay cool and i'm like

oh i looked down the paper i'm like oh my gosh well bernie's gonna be here like that's the real life character i didn't have any questions prepared for bernie so then i sit there for like 30 minutes and i'm like writing my questions i'm like chris what was it like was there extra pressure playing someone who's really um in really lived and like did you feel like you had to uphold his story blah blah like making up all the shit on the spot right and then i go up to the girls like all these music studio executives and i'm like okay i'm ready and i'm like so i said okay So just to get this clear, like Chris and Bernie are going to be grouped together. And she looks at me and she goes, what do you mean?

And I was like, Chris and Bernie, like on the sheet. And she goes, Bernie's dead. Bernie's dead. Oh God. I was, I just, what's the movie about? It's a movie. It's this. No, here's the worst part.

The movie is the ship movie called the finest hour where there's a horrible on the ship. There's a horrible, he dies in the movie. You see it in the movie that he has died. like, what is wrong with me? So I'm just, I'm so embarrassed. And there's all these people looking at me like journalistic excellence. Like she has no idea what's happening. It was just so embarrassing. So then I walked away and sort of felt bad about myself. Then Bernie probably feels worse. I interviewed, no, then it got even worse. Then I interviewed Chris and I was staring in his baby blue eyes thinking, Oh, beautiful people like really do exist. Like there's no, listen,

when you sit next to a beautiful woman, you're like, Oh, well that's makeup and hair and all those things when you sit next to a beautiful man you think there's no makeup there's no any like that's just your face and your face is nice and i am acting like a child because i'm like hi oh i'm guilty i'm gonna see some questions anyway wait i have a question how tall is he tall oh what and he has like a buzz cut side haircut ew like the undercut no it's a perfect haircut he was so nice and he's incredibly talented and he was a great interview like i was so happy with it all. But anyway, Bernie's dead. So Kelsey was trying to enter. It's like weekend of Bernie's all over again. I kind of brought him back. Bernie's dead. My good week

is so good. Tell me. Take you back to 2009. Okay. I have Pamela Anderson eyebrows. I have a mullet because the whole front of my hair has been bleached into like four inches and the whole back, the back is growing. The back is a full pony. So I have a bad mullet. I have just gone through the worst breakup of my life and I am thirsty and desperate and feeling like shit about myself. Like I feel so bad about myself. I'm at a party in Las Vegas with my friend who is on general hospital and she brings this other guy who was on general hospital at the time who happens to be from my hometown that I had no idea. Please picture me in like bad clothes. I possibly might have a photo from that night where I was wearing a silver kitten heel with a bell jean, a black

tank top and a leopard Betsy Johnson purse. I can picture that. I can picture that. If you don't have a picture, so many things. So with like a tiny eyebrow and like a lot of tan, it was before I got like my lips done and I had no, I was like this anyway. So, so I'm at the party. I am desperate. I'm thirsty. I would make out. That's not sure. I was never like a big make router. I would try to date anyone that was walking. I'm like, Oh, bell man. Hey, woo. Cause I just wanted to feel loved i love that you're desperate but then you also are like wearing a kid yeah right i'm desperate for attention but not sad you like want somebody to like love you and date you but not even touch you right that's never gonna happen but anyways continue okay so anyway i'm

at the party and i meet this guy i'm gonna totally name check him his name is jason thompson he's a big daytime soap opera star i kind of didn't know that because i don't watch daytime soaps but um anyway so he's from edmonton he's from my hometown so i meet him in 2009 and i'm thinking This is meant to be our parents are going to be best friends We're going to go back to for the holidays to edmonton. Like this is my guy. I've decided this all within this party Brought you together. Fate has brought us together. I got this is the reason I had this horrible breakup Jason thompson and I are meant to be so meet him at this party and i'm thirsty thirsty thirsty He wants nothing to do with me. He's like, oh hi, and i'm like so you're from edmonton

Oh my god, do you like the oilers? Like i'm so ridiculous, right? And I totally scare him away And i'm like texting with my friend kelly after i'm like jason's so cute blah blah blah doesn't want anything he's like nope nope so fast forward it is 2016 i have grown in my eyebrows i am married no longer desperate my hair has grown back i'm no longer wearing kitten heels i have an assignment for my show where i need to go on the set of the daytime talk show to interview jason do you know what else is kind of funny that he's still there no it's he's moving to a different show but yeah he's still a soap star but that's okay i feel like they probably make

good money. Oh, they do. For sure. But he's still there, but he's there. He's there. So I know that this is happening. This is this week, you know, I know what's happening. Listen, I am happily married. I love my husband. I'm not trying to go like get any, I'm not going to thirst up in his, I just wanted to like really throw it in his face and feel good about myself. So I had a great outfit. I wore a super tight black turtleneck with like a leather skirt and my like really cute boots and had great hair and makeup. And I went and did the shoot. And so I did the whole interview. So what's it like being a soap star? So he doesn't know who you are, right? No. Cause I kind of said, Oh, you're from Edmonton, right? Oh, cool. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm just like giving

him a small talk. Anyway, the last question of the interview, I said, so do you ever get sick of being like a sex symbol? And he's like, Oh no. And I go, speaking of sex symbol, you know, I tried to date you once and he goes, what are you talking about? Turns beet red. Now I want to tell you this from 2009 to 2016, I have flourished. You know what? Jason Thompson into a butterfly filling in your eyebrows. Really? Jason Thompson is still hot and he's still a babe, but the Jason Thompson I had in my head from 2009, it's not anywhere close. So I was like, Oh yeah, I tried to date you. And he was like, I don't remember. And I said, Oh, you know, like, and I told him the whole story. He's like, I have no recollection of this. And I was like, Oh my God, that's so

funny. And then I was like, okay, see you later. And then I walked away and I was like, and I just like, he was totally flabbergasted. And I just thought in my head, listen, he has kids and a wife. He's probably like, what an idiot. But in my head, when I drove away from that interview, I thought he's thinking maybe she was the one that got away. There's a girl. If you Google Jason Thompson, there's a girl maybe eating his ear off his face. I don't know. Right. So, I mean, of all things, when I was super thirsty and desperate, you weren't going to let me eat your ear?

Oh, I know who this person is. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, good week. Retaliation hotness is awesome. Good week. All in your head. Yeah.

All in your head. Also, like. Nothing good actually happened. It was just in your head. No, no, no. That's usually Kelty's. I love Kelty's good week. Also, your bad.

Everything is usually just in the head. Like, it's not an external situation that's happened to you. It's like her boost of confidence every week is her good week. all right back on okay wrap it out so um i will start with um this is my good week it's kind of good week turned to bad week but let me just i'll take it from here so i have a friend who we share a lot of like stories regarding bowel movements I have always been a really, really like sensitive Sally when it comes to my, you know, digestion. So I'm always dealing with something always like diarrhea is my middle name.

Like I spray paint toilets all over. So I usually, but here's my problem with it. I go from zero to a hundred. so i'll go days without going and then i'll have like a explosion what that's called ibs yeah i definitely have ibs but i'm not going to do anything about it because i refuse to change my lifestyle what are you what do you i don't what do you do for you have to change the way you eat and i just can't i can't no no deal with that when you're like 55 and honestly it's kept me pretty thin this diarrhea okay so um but here's the problem is that lately maybe i've just been

healthier i don't know what my deal is but now i'm like having trouble going at all so my friend who's like a professional like be skinny went on a dime type person was like try these pills they're all natural and they're from you know earth bar which is this place in la where like they can put anything in there and and i and i'm gonna believe that it's good for me it might not be but i'm gonna believe it so i'm like okay like how bad could these pills be um i wait so are they they're like glorified laxatives it's it's kind of like um it's magnesium with a couple other things and that's supposed to like really you know clear you out so after a couple days of not going i take this pill and it was like it wasn't like that crampy contractions i need to

get to a toilet type thing over like the span of a couple minutes it was like in 20 seconds you have to find a bathroom or you're in trouble i found a bathroom yeah and i'm just gonna say that it was like an at-home colonic oh my god it was hot lava sludge okay the thing it was from so high up in my intestines that i just can't even i like i saw what i ate for last thanksgiving it really cleaned me out i love that did you lose weight i'm sure i did but here's um i feel i felt my stomach felt very flat there was nothing left in there so this was great and i was like oh my god i'm a convert this stuff is amazing i go to yoga later that day and i'm fine in yoga i'm totally fine okay i come home i'm hot yoga shit i come home i don't wear underwear with my yoga

pants anymore because I was having too many situations and my doctor was like, just don't wear underwear in yoga. Like how hard is it? And I'm like, I'm afraid I'm going to queef or something. Like it seems too free, but I stopped wearing underwear and my vagina was really happy. So I'm in these yoga pants, these really cute tiki yoga pants that I'm obsessed with and they're not cheap. And I'm, I come home from yoga. I'm like doing a couple of things around the house and you know i'm like putting some laundry away here and there and i i'm like oh i have like a little gas it wasn't gas i full wait what color were your pants sharded in my purple pants i got to the bathroom and it was like someone dropped a hershey kiss into the lining of my pants

and um how did you feel i honestly felt ashamed it was shame and embarrassment it was shame embarrassment and fascination fascination i haven't i don't i think that was the first time i've ever done it and i think the reason it happened is because i had a friend a couple weeks before literally tell me that she did that like and i was like how do you do that i did contract the sharding from your friend i think i did and i like i well what happens with me is like if someone has a zit on their forehead in my mind i'm like oh that sucks i'm glad i don't have a zit on my forehead and then i get a karma zit the next day yeah like for whatever reason so i think i got karma sharting going on karma sharting it was a karma shart coin watch out somebody

trademarked that all right so wait do you have a good week the good week was that i had sludge come out of my intestine oh you're skinny yeah i was so this was i was like a skinny hot bitch who sharts. Who doesn't want that? And on that note, Kelsey, what's coming up next? Oh my gosh. We're so excited you guys, because if you thought this was not safe for work, Caitlin Bristow is here. The former bachelorette who PS we grew up together. So we're about to go in like Flynn on Caitlin. This episode of lady gang is brought to you by just thrive. Do you ever feel like a tightness in your tummy, sitting in rush hour traffic. Maybe you get a little sick to your stomach before a big presentation. That's because your gut, not your brain, is responsible for your

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get ten dollars off at neutrafold.com that's neutrafold n-u-t-r-a-f-o-l.com promo code lg pod the lady gang we are back oh my gosh i could not be more excited about what's about to go down i'm fangirling like so hard you don't even know we're so excited caitlin bristow is here hi in the flesh i can't believe it not much flesh because she weighs about 80 pounds hey i'm a buck buck oh five no chance no you're not yes i am you haven't seen me naked i'm five three you haven't seen me naked you're the tiniest and you give hollywood anorexia goals a whole no i'm gonna i'm gonna combat you on that because i'm five three and the thinnest i've ever been as an adult is 107 when i was sad and i still didn't look like you like i never looked like maybe you have brittle

bird bones brittle bones i think you weigh 95 pounds no i just weighed myself okay i was 105 five okay well i feel like a whale so yeah jack you and i have a drink so caitlin's not drinking and this was concerning to us because we felt like she's probably pregnant because this has happened to us on the podcast this happened we had ali fedtowski on she wanted a nice water two weeks later she announced that she's pregnant so first of all well not that i know for you to pee on i'll do it because i'm like i count i'm counting down the days have a drink well you need to come back and have a drink with us. She's doing sober January. It's the worst decision of my whole life. You're the second person I know who's doing this. I don't know. Apparently it's

a thing. It was in like Sweden. It's a thing. I read it online. Dry January. Oh, but not your vagina. Okay. So you're in Los Angeles and I thought probably you might be here planning your televised wedding, but you say, Nope, you're just here doing your thing because you and Sean have this life now where you guys are like globetrotting as a couple it's the cutest thing you're in Sundance then you're in a you're everywhere so tell me about post finding the love of your life you don't go back to your regular jobs there's a new job it's famous people jobs it's really bizarre it's a whole new world it's funny because every one of my ex-boyfriends I could not travel with so as soon as we're like we got out of this world and we're traveling everywhere I'm like oh

this is going to be like a true test traveling is the time it's so stressful and i we travel great together like we bring cards on the plane we have like our date nights on planes it's really fun yeah that's so cute i know we're girls no i love it oh it's so cute so what has been the best thing about you know going on the show is obviously a risk i don't think it was super easy for you, the whole experience, but what has been the thing other than finding sort of the love of your life? Like what has been the thing that Hollywood has sort of given you? That's been just rad. Um, the Hollywood's given me, I don't know. I feel like the best thing that I took from it is I did not know how tough of a person I was. Like, I feel like I grew so much, even though

before even going on the show, I felt like a pretty confident person and I was happy with everything in life. And I'm like, yeah, but coming out of it, I'm like, Whoa, I'm way tougher than I thought i was i feel like a strong person but you sorry did you think that you like going into it your expectations of it did you think it was going to be like as hard as it was no because i feel like everybody probably going in you're like oh it'll be fine guys are like chasing after me no big deal yeah i thought it would be the best thing that ever happened to me yeah which it ended up being but during it i was like oh this is hell it was hell i lost hair i was like oh yeah it was stressful i was it was really bad did you have to make out with anyone that you were like this is so

i want to know about that all the kissing yeah oh this is fun i haven't talked about this a long time who did i kiss that i was like oh are we gonna name names should i yeah yeah at first i don't know what i was thinking about i was really into jj but i think it's i kind of loved jj i just said the beginning but then after a while i was like no well his personality is profession wait he was something he was a retired something yeah i know i don't even know what he was he was like it's something like an attorney or something like that at what point did you know shot like did sean catch right was it right away or not yep right as soon as he walked out yeah i was like that guy's so hot and then i thought about like the jinx of giving him the first impression rose

like that sometimes doesn't work out i'm like no i have to he was the only one that really stood out to me because he's so hot and tall oh my god yeah he's a babe it's it's it's kind of uncomfortable because i'm like you're the pretty one in the relationship he's so pretty and he really like cares about his hair and his skin and like like he's like a pretty one he needs to be presentable does he take longer to get ready than you do it's like the same which i'm not a fan of i've told him this many times but he will hate me for saying that yeah yeah um let's talk let's backstory a little bit because this is a very interesting thing so i'll main people sort of know but not really that we grew up sort of in not in the same town our towns were side by side

But our moms have been good friends and, and, um, I think they like used to go on birthday retreats. Yeah. They have the same birthday. Yeah. They do. Yeah. September 15th.

Yeah. Oh my God. Anyway. So Kayla and I grew up together and we're like both little dancer kids in Edmonton, but we're from sort of separate little sort of suburbs. And I don't know if you guys know this, but I went on the bachelor many years ago. Of course I know this. Yeah.

You did a bot ma out of the limousine. Yeah. Did you? Is that what you did? Yeah. Oh, I need to go back and watch that. No, because what they do is they lock you in this hotel, and then they come around, and they're like, what are you going to do out of the limo?

And it has to be a thing. Oh, wait. They ask you what your schtick is going to be? Yeah. Why do you think people... They come planet with you. Yeah. Hello, did you hear what I said out of the limo?

Something about your lawn, right? Oh, yeah. To Chris Souls, I was like, are we allowed to swear on this? No. Oh, okay. Then I won't say what I said. You can YouTube it. Wasn't it about plowing your...

Yeah, plow my garden or my fields. I dropped an F-bomb in there. And how did you come up... You came up with that because someone came to your room and they were like, I came up with it. Actually, I was joking and they're like, you should. I'm like, there's no way they'd air it if I said that. Yeah, they did.

They did. Anyway, so I went on The Bachelor. It was the worst experience of my life. Wait, by the way, I started watching The Bachelor on your season to watch you. You're welcome. And then I was. You're welcome, Jack. You're welcome, ABC.

Gotcha. So I did a batma, batma out of the limo and it was the most awkward thing. And so I remember walking up to Brad Womack, who is my bachelor, and he was standing there and like, you're standing face to face and there's all these cameras and it's like, somehow it's always wet on the driveway, but it's not raining in California. It's bizarre. They wet it down. Just to hope that you slept.

I was, well, I don't know. I was sitting there and I looked him in the eye and he was like, hello, I'm Brad. And I looked at him. I thought, you don't like girls. That's literally what I thought. And you grew up dancing. So you have good gaydar. Amazing.

My gaydar is amazing. So then I was like, I'm going to put that down because at the time of my life, it was a time when I was a little desperado. I was thirsty. I'd been through this horrible breakup. Oh, when have you ever been desperado? No, I was for sure desperado. Your whole life. Anyway, so my whole life. So I go on the show and week, day one or whatever, it was just like a girl had fangs. Like people were so insane. Oh, the fang girl was on your season. Oh yeah, I remember that. And I just couldn't even wrap my head around it. And everyone was so drunk.

Yeah. And I just wasn't drinking that much. Like I'm drunk right now at this podcast, by the way caitlin she's had one glass of champagne wait is brad out of the closet no so listen here's what happened then i make it past the first night which i know wasn't brad's choice it was definitely the producer's choice because i was a little zany and like up for anything they love those there's people right they want to keep me around right that's good then the next day or the next like two days i was only there for like three days total i remember he wore a purple tie and a purple shirt and i was like zoom zoom zoom zoom zoom zoom zoom zoom like you don't like girls and i said to him i said him in passing i said oh my gosh that tie is amazing i think my

best gay has that and then i got really he was like oh busted so then here's a little scoop scoop i listen allegedly we don't know if he whatever it's fine be whoever you want to be but i don't think that he slept with that many girls that he is he's not still with the girl he ended up emily right emily mainer oh it was yeah wasn't he the bachelor twice yes so anyway it's crazy how can you want to go through that no so long story short caitlin is thinking about like oh i you know i think i want to go on the bachelor so she writes me and she's like what do you think and I was like, do not do it. This is the worst. This happened, right? What did I say? Yeah. You're like, that's, that was the worst decision of my life. Don't do it. That you will be humiliated.

I was like, Oh my gosh. Was Kulti your only advice giving person? And you went against it. What made you decide otherwise? You can't say no to that kind of opportunity. I'm like, what else am I going to do? Stay at a restaurant? And yeah. Wait, did you send in your own video or did somebody recommend your own? No, my girlfriend did it. Yeah. I just came out of a relationship. I was living in Germany. He played hockey out there and I moved back and she was like, that's it. We're getting you on the bachelor. You know, the whole like best friend doing. Yeah. And then, so they actually, she put me in for Juan Pablo season. Oh my God. Yeah. That would have been interesting. Yeah. And apparently she had sent it all in too

late. So they kept me on file and they called me like exactly a year later. And I'm like, we kept you on file did you have to do a video or anything no that's so weird so you so anyway she goes on the show right you're fine you do great except you get your heart broken yeah and then i knew i thought bachelorette oh really oh yeah i was like no i was like there's no way i'm not that like bachelorette type no you're like the funniest person and the most personality than anybody you want to hang out more often were you nervous that you weren't going to be the bachelorette in that first episode though like when the guys got to decide yeah kind of wait yeah that what oh you were really good about not talking smack about her because i would have just

gone in oh my god i've talked so much yeah all i do is yell at my tv i hurt because i knew that's what they probably wanted but i didn't really love her on the first or on the bachelor i didn't really get to know her and then once i did i'm like oh she's such a sweetheart that i actually felt bad for both of us being in that position i'm like i don't need to talk smack about her Cause I just feel sorry for her and myself. Like whoever goes home, that's just sad. That's the most uncomfortable.

Yeah. Brutal. Really? So really historical though. Yeah. You know, I want to know about the dresses. Tell me about the styling of all the gowns.

I am such a tomboy. It's stupid. Like the fact that I'm even wearing heels right now, I'm really proud of myself. Um, but I'm really, so going into all the gown, like they just give you racks and racks to choose from.

And I'm like, I don't, I don't do gowns. And then all of a sudden I'm like in sparkly dresses every single episode. I'm like, apparently i like rhinestones i'm always wondering that like no there's brands that sponsor it right because there's one brand that has all those crop top gown things oh they wouldn't let me wear crop tops i was all about it on the bachelor and then when i went on the bachelorette i guess i had to

like class it up a bit as a crop top connoisseur that offends me don't be offended i was offended by them saying that i'm all about the crop top no i know your fashion i was like i would wear everything that you have another question do people try to bang chris harrison you'd think so but he's so professional there like also chris harrison has the best job in the entire world honestly can i get that job he's just goals of life he's a presence too like when he comes into a room you're just like it's crazy he's funny he's hilarious so funny yeah i'm really shocked that they don't try to make did he really try to be your friend and be an advisor or was that just for show no i love him he's probably one of my favorite people that i've met through this whole

experience. He's really been there for me. Like even to this day, that's amazing. Cause he's done it for so long. You think after a while they'd probably phone it in, but the fact that he cares. And I think that actually comes across when you're watching it. Yeah, I do believe he does. I love him. There's something that you did on your season of, I want to get to the present time, but I do want to mention this because we have a lot of women listeners and there are a lot, it hit the fan, your season, because you really like, you sort of changed the game, but Like, honestly, I think any woman that's a real woman and not a judgy woman is like, yes, you need to do things.

You know what I love about this? And I think the lesson we can take away from Kaylin season is that you got to like go and get with the guy that is like, you're hot and you're just wherever it is. If you're on the bachelorette or you're in a bar or you're in your high school, like get with the guy that's so bad on paper, get with a bad boy that everyone hates. It's the one your mom won't like. But there's the chemistry is just insane. do it get that out of your damn system and then pick the good guy yeah i have a question do you

think that if you hadn't done your thing with nick that you would have felt differently in picking the good guy and because there's still that like un like known no i don't know i don't know what it's i mean it was definitely exaggerated on the show too like yeah when when that all happened we had no mics um we had like no one was really even there and i actually was like this isn't right and then it was like that was it yeah and then they made him do you know the whole b-roll in the morning so it looked like he was leaving my place in the morning but he did not spend the night there it was not like this big yeah no so it i probably shouldn't be saying that but i'm like but yeah so it's it was a little blown out of proportion anyways like my mother

likes to say, you should always test drive a vehicle before you buy it. I said that on Chris' soul season with Jimmy Kimmel. He was like, what are you going to do if Chris sleeps with other women in the fantasy suite? I'm like, you got to test drive the vehicle. Especially in the situation of The Bachelor, because it's like you're basically saying you're going to

marry somebody. It's kind of a life-changing decision. You either have to have sex with them or get a dick pic to see what you're buying. I don't buy clothing online that there's not a picture of. I'm certainly not going to sign up for a wiener I've never seen. thing i honestly wouldn't date guys until i got a dick pic first in my in my single life that's a

way to live my god get it jack man somehow i'd always get one incredible he must be six three and send me a dick pic six seven requirements seven what is the what like what is the thing about sean i mean i follow your instagram i see it it's disgusting but like what what is it because they didn't show much on the show because if you think about it they're filming how many hours a seven days a week and they only show an hour of it every monday so he's hilarious and he's got such a good personality and he's such a softy and he's so sentimental and he loves his dog and he just is like such a good person with a good heart and stupidly hot but you know he's passionate about what he cares for and i think on the show it was that was clear and they they

played it as jealousy maybe a little too much but he is so funny he's so kind he's got such a great family he's so hot he's just everything like i feel like they played the the conflict in his situation more than like way that's what people want to see obviously and i don't think that they probably showed like any of his personality yeah no they didn't it's sad but i mean now people see it on our snapchat right but people are i think people are really jaded because there have been many seasons where people like i love you forever and then they don't yeah and so this is you're telling us like this is the person like this is your person oh i don't even i just can't wait to like prove everybody wrong i'm like i love that yeah it's good yeah everyone's like well what are

you gonna do differently or like how are you guys different from any other bachelor couple i'm like well we just are i think everybody sees that anyways and you could take any couple like you know on the street and it'd be the same odds like they're probably not gonna work either yeah most people don't yeah the wait is finally over third loves it bra aka the 24-7 t-shirt bra is now available in a timeless and versatile white shade most bras suck so third love decided to make a better one with a smoothing band and no slip pleated straps all day comfort and support is possible in 13 colors including seven shades of neutral available in 60 plus sizes you'll walk away with a bra that actually fits making every day a great boob day don't believe us the 37,000

plus five-star reviews prove that this bra is the real deal visit thirdlove.com to find your fit and shop their best-selling bras get $15 off your first purchase has there been a moment since this all went down that you sort of felt like oh i'm the ish like i'm cool like when you saw the cover like your cover your face on us weekly no i hated that when you got to be on i saw you at the american music no the um cmas you're walking the red carpet yeah that was cool except i found out the night before and i wore a freaking terrible maxi dress that like it was terrible so i was like but i was like i'm on red carpet cma so what am i doing here but this is awesome i'm so jealous yeah bless you bless you thank you

okay yeah most importantly have you taken him to edmonton yes he understand the like listen we love edmonton but there's nothing there nothing but i'm actually well from leduc like a side of edmonton and he loved it because he's like the kind of small town person and he grew up in a small town in connecticut windsor locks and so he like loved that's where i came from and that's where i grew up and he appreciated my little town did you take him to tim hortons of course i did he doesn't like it i know i can't i can't get on board with tim hortons what yeah you guys have like been drinking the kool-aid for so long yeah oh i just love it tim hortons is delicious wait i thought tim hortons was a bagel shop am i wrong well there's bagels

donuts donuts yeah it's good um okay so i want to know about the celebrities now because you have some celebrity followers i think anna kendrick is one of them does she follow me i don't who's i know she tweets me yeah i have a question about that because like there's so many celebrities people really liked you yeah like i had no idea it was insane did you ever get like any crazy tweets from people that you're just like um oh my god yeah okay this is fun this is so canadian of me but do you guys know trailer park boys yes no you don't what is it oh it's been a long time honey okay i'm not gonna get into it because it's such it's a weird thing to explain but one of the trailer park boys it's like a canadian terrible quality show i was so pumped

he tweeted me oh my god you're like i don't care about chris jenner but trailer park yeah five i can't think of because people didn't tag me in it but i know like sean penn was a fan and he said he was like team caitlin on jimmy kimmel and it was when they already took my phone away so i'm sitting there in a hotel room by myself watching jimmy kimmel and sean penn was like yeah i'm team caitlin and i was like i can't tell anybody about this i can't snapchat it i can't i'm like oh i was going crazy because they take your phone away yeah i gotta be honest i'm like i was actually super jealous of the fact these girls know my plight of instagram i've been really trying to get my followers up i'm slowly growing at 35.1 hey that's good did you get the 0.1 i got the

point one. I got like four new followers a day and I watched you go from like 23 followers to like 1.2 million in like two weeks. And I thought that not great girl. I'm so mad at her. Take that. I feel like I should win an award. Are they fake? Did you buy them? Keith, I didn't even know that was possible. Somebody called me out, but you know what happened? Michelle money apparently had like quite a bit of following and it happened when it was after women tell all and Chris soul season. And I went out with her, but nobody was supposed to know that I was off the show yet. Cause it hadn't aired yet. And she had, um, Instagrammed a picture that I was in and then had to delete it the next day. But I already got like so many

followers from that. And then it just kept going. And then after bachelorette, I was like, Oh my gosh, but I don't, I still don't know how you buy them. They're like bots. So you're saying your followers are real. They're real. I hate you so much because I think there's some program where sometimes they go and clean that up and you can lose like thousands. So I promise, they're real. What kind of photos get the most likes? Is it you and Sean together or is it you working out?

I can post one of me and I'm like, dang, I look really good in that photo. Like a nice fire selfie? Yeah, and I'm like, this is going to get some zero likes. But it only gets like 50,000. I'm like, wait, how many? And I get so mad. I post one with Sean and it's like two seconds later

and we get like 100,000. Life's so hard for you, Caitlin. out there believing in love i know i know i do i feel like that's another good thing that's come i feel like we've really inspired people yeah you have like they're like i want my sean b i'm like you go get them don't settle until you have a sean b who is your celebrity that you stalk that you still think i'm hollywood now i want to be friends with you oh that's a good question i have one for sure i just i feel like i'm on the spot right now and i can't think of it all right well get back to us i'll think about that one think about it most importantly i know that you're

from alberta so you drank the same water as i did growing up do you have an inspirational mantra or mirror message that you taped your mirror like for instance i just printed one out of my office that says that says don't ask for permission go get it you know what i'm gonna buy you one day is that a whiteboard the poster that's the cat that says hang in there classic classic classic um i give myself mere high fives ah yeah like i'm like you know it's gonna be a good day that's it that's good you high five yourself who doesn't like a good high five lame than me less lame it's less lame but it's still kind of but the fact that i have one and i had an answer for that do you do you actually do that though yes okay appreciate

not very often but if i'm like really feeling myself that day i'll do it okay we want to get into um some of the wedding details okay because honestly there's nothing more than we that we like to watch than a wedding or divorce yeah what is your wedding hashtag the booth stoves oh but i'm i don't know i just that just that's what we call ourselves but now i think i'm like but i'm gonna become a booth so it wouldn't be booth so anymore because my last name won't be bristow i feel like there's so many good puns you could do with for booth yeah yeah booth me booth i don't know i'm not gonna have very many answers for this because i suck at planning anything well here's the thing do you have a date is there a date for the wedding no are you nervous

about that because you gotta tie this up he's babe yeah but he's not going anywhere you don't think he's obsessed with you he loves me we are like no we are two peas in a pod he's not going anywhere. He's like the most loyal person I've ever met in my life. When is his birthday? May 18th. So he's a Taurus? Is that what that means? Is that a Taurus? Yeah, it is. Okay. Those are good, solid people. Yeah. He's very loyal. Yep. Loyal. Okay. Um, when you do get married, big dress, small dress. I know. I want to know your dress. I want to go back to that. He has only had one other relationship and it was for almost like eight years. Eight? Yeah. Hold on. Is he bad in bed because he hasn't tested? No. Do you think I would know? Just because he hasn't

sleeping with other people oh yeah i'm sure he has yeah oh also he could have practiced on the same you know oh that's how it works no i thought you had to be committed yeah i think sometimes guys are better when they've had like a long-running relationship because they've like had comfortable they've gotten the feedback from that girl you know they're not just like hopping from one bed to the next with one girl faking an orgasm after the other it's like a girl that's like they're giving they've experimented now i'm thinking about him with his ex the next question my dress okay okay so you're a tiny tiny poly pocket i really do want to know about your like your dress i don't want poofy well no no no i think i know what i think i know what i see for

you crop top dress i would be so down for that there are crop top dresses kelty was telling me really yeah i should send her that designer yeah she would look great in those dresses yeah so do you like a lace do you like a satin do you like a mermaid do you like lace okay yeah i like lace i like fitted i like low backs i was gonna say backless long sleeve backless maybe um yep maybe something from your bachelorette days with some sparkle i'm gonna leave the sparkles on the show i went overboard with that sequin dress was there was there times that you watched it back and you thought what the heck am i wearing uh i can't know to be honest i can't really think of a time i'm sure it happened but you're dressed amazing trust me i was watching i didn't realize how picky i was

with clothing until carrie is the stylist i was in his like apartment he had racks i'm like i'm not really picky and then i started going through and i'm like oh i'm really picky yeah okay um all right so we're gonna have a tight body con low back lacy dress at the wedding that has no date are you gonna say your are you gonna write vows to each other yes of course yeah definitely it's really they're gonna be so cute how many bridesmaids oh i've so i want so many oh i know Oh, and I don't know what to do. Kelty couldn't help it. Oh, yeah.

Just kidding. I'm totally joking. I was so done. I was so done. How many will you have? Well, because I want his sisters and I love his sisters. They're the best. My sister.

I have six stepsisters. I'm going to leave them out of it. Then I have like Becca and Whitney, who I'm so close with from the other season. Then I have four best friends. Okay. So you have like 10. Maybe just no one. I was like a 10th bridesmaid in a wedding.

maybe i should just do my sister my two sister-in-laws yeah and just and have it not be personal just have family yeah just do family because here's my here's what i'm gonna say to all these women who want like they want their entourage up there this day is like probably the prettiest you're ever going to look in your life why do you want to share the focus i have really pretty friends yeah stand up there stand up there by yourself maybe put some fatties next to you but don't put like hot girls that were on the bachelor they're gonna steal your thunder like no unless you just give them like the worst dresses ever yeah you're gonna spend ten thousand dollars on this gorgeous gown and you're gonna share the focus yeah you know no no no you guys

talked me out of it thank you thank you i'll be planning your wedding right now okay but these the two that you choose to be your bridesmaids matching dresses or and a color will you have a theme do you have a theme color for you now i'm scared about your guys reactions because i kind of like the idea of us all being in white oh no that's good i like that my best friend did that that's like a kardashian pictures are beautiful yeah that's okay i really like that like sean on the same page yes yeah yeah but definitely be the skinniest one so if any of those i don't think that's a problem i'm not gonna worry that's not gonna be a problem her arm is the size of my i know i'm just saying you know you don't want to like you don't want to share that attention

have you been a bridesmaid yes yes i've been a maid of honor and a bridesmaid are you a good bridesmaid yeah i'm fun i'm not good at planning so i just get someone to plan the like parties and stuff for me but i also make really great speeches you're a good time gal you know what most importantly caitlin are you gonna have a wedding theme no i haven't thought about it do you have a like a location like do you want to be like a beach or like a i yeah i like the idea of a beach i definitely don't want to do it in a church holiday in edmonton bring your how do you feel about him seeing you before the ceremony for pictures i don't want to do that okay good i like the old school like traditional yeah just see me right when i walk down the aisle yeah because

people that go to the wedding as an audience member i love being able to watch like his face oh that's my favorite part yeah and he'll cry like oh yeah he'll just be a puddle oh yeah oh yeah he will do you think he'll cuddle with a boner oh my god he'll cry and the tears will land on his boners i guess i'm just confused because if you all are really if you're really in love and this is the person why are you not like what in your brideness is like you don't want to set a date i think it's because it's still new ish like it's still i don't question that i'm not going to be with him that doesn't ever cross my mind i'm not ever like oh is this gonna work i'm like i know it will before he leaves it's fun to be engaged i have the rest

of my life to be married i'm just i just feel like we're not in a rush i love that yeah yeah did you do engagement photos i think you did i think i saw them on your instagram wait i didn't see them oh yeah they're pretty tell us about it because we usually think we kind of hate them normally but yours were cute oh explain to everyone what they were it was my girlfriend she's a photographer and i love when she takes pictures i love how they turn out and she was like let's do one for vanity fair i'm like good try like that's not gonna happen um but we did like these really i don't know it looked like i was in a wedding dress actually i was in a wedding dress it was a burda is that something i don't know no idea okay i thought that was like a popular

game um but yeah we we look like we were people were like did you elope and i'm like no those are just our where were you like in by some trees or something like on a beach no we were like on a farm kind of area oh so you're like you're channeling some crystal the ranch the branch vibe yeah shabby chic wedding yeah did you but you did like a bridal spread for a magazine as well where you get to wear a bunch of wedding dresses that was those were our engagement photos yeah that's nice yeah it was fun it was fun it was for brides magazine yeah does he have an opinion on what he wants you to be in um no he he said he wanted to be heavily involved in the planning which i believe because he's so like his christmas present was so cute he made me

like a big ass oh sorry big jar of um coupons like this i'll rub your feet for an hour and i'll cook your favorite dinner he bought me like voice lessons because i love singing and he like he's really thoughtful that's so and i feel like he'd be good at planning with me so does he have a pinterest probably a secret one probably he like has the whole wedding planned out on his secret pinterest he has a date i don't you're sure when you got out of the limo you looked in his eyes and he does like women yeah he is not a brad or when he got when he got out of the limo i got that he likes girls vibe yeah he had the good good good so do you want babies oh i'm more excited about babies than i am to get married really yeah i can't wait to have any of your

exes reached out to you since and been like i'm really happy you're happy but if you ever want to get back together or just like maybe like a late night sort of like a high tech no i was wondering yeah when i came out through i'm like i wonder because i have like two really serious ex-boyfriends and i wondered because i'm still close with one of their families but they did the family told me oh he's really happy for you i haven't talked to him i think his girlfriend would probably murder me um and then the other one the recent one that i was with that i lived with in germany and he no i ran into him in vancouver and we're just like and then that was it it was so strange because i remember with my ex i remember watching sean and katherine's season

and i was cutting his hair in germany and he like got teary-eyed over their engagement and i was like are you crying over the bachelor right now he was crying because he knew and now i'm like he could see the future okay are you guys ready for the most important question of caitlin's entire time here i don't even know what it is sex on the wedding night yes or no duh yeah why is no a thing yes no people get tired you just have to i didn't have sex on my wedding night you did shocker no i'll tell you why because i got married um in a backyard and then we had six people staying at our house and the next day we left for a honeymoon so we got home at like four in the morning had to get up at six for a flight and then we got to the cayman islands have you not

heard what i admitted on um et canada what tell me sean i had sex in an airplane oh yeah how did you do is tell us i want to know because i want to do it how do you do that i want to do it we like said it and then we're like oh that's gonna like start trending people are gonna know um we were in pods and so he was across on the other pod i'm like you're so far away from me and everyone was sleeping and it was overnight and it was really dark and we hadn't been in a long time we were coming back from new york going to vancouver and so it was really dark and i'm like come over here and he like got under the covers with me in the pod and we were watching a movie and then we're like no one would even know oh i need to do that all right that's why

i bring wet wipes on my airplane yeah because there might be that specific reason residual what yeah where does it go where does it go you know they can't clean up where does it go that's also why i won't touch a blanket on an airplane maybe we didn't finish maybe we didn't finish how did you both fit in that tiny seat i mean the pods are bigger she's a tiny person right you're only five inches i turned sideways and then i'm non-existent yeah yeah basically like spoonie sucks yeah oh yeah it was full spoon yeah yeah it's easy did you feel so happy that you joined the mile high club oh yeah we couldn't stop high-fiving that is such a goal i went immediately to the bathroom and high-five

myself in the mirror that's when those mirror monsters were that is so good oh my god like yeah me yeah so what is the one thing about you that nobody really understands like you know listen there is a stigma that comes with you're the bachelorette it's so cool when it's happening your face is on us weekly and then after you can never really go back to regular life yeah like you can't go work in a restaurant again yeah like you're the bachelorette like now you gotta like you gotta sell tummy tea on instagram or whatever else you're doing i refuse i refuse to sell the flat i'll sell it for you okay but like what is the thing that you wish the public knew i feel like everybody knows so much about me you're a pretty open book like i don't think that you're

like yeah there's nothing yeah you haven't been like misrepresented which is nice i mean i pee in the shower uh who doesn't yeah okay deep talks riveting conversation that i do not i guess i'm alone on this island it's just you just you so the wedding is coming do you think it'll be a 2016 yeah i'm 2016 really wants in yeah will you televise i want to get down with leslie because leslie's the jam she is a time her lashes on the back like i was so proud of leslie when mom came on and she was wearing a fierce lash and i was like your mom really turned it out she does she's hot yeah my mom is next level she's unreal it was almost like she had found her moment like she was like this is my mom because i know when she was younger like her mom was this

very famous ballerina and like incredibly talented and she was like i'm gonna have children like i want to choose having a family and like she kind of a little bit i think gave up a little bit of career to have you and your sister definitely living through me right and so now you know she's sort of like when she was on the show especially when the meet the parents i was like leslie is like living her days of her life moment right now oh that's exactly what she was yes 100 she was eating it up and she killed it she killed it she's like come outside i want to talk to you yeah what does she think now oh she is she's so cute because she's the most supportive person and she's also like kind of crazy but in the best way possible and she's like stocks up

on any magazine that has my face in it and she like brings out the bag if i'm home she's like look what i have and like yeah it's she's hilarious proud mama yeah she really is yeah all right so since caitlin has clearly figured out her life like look two years ago waitress in Vancouver now live in large in LA with Hottie McHotterson planning it. Are you going to do a TV wedding? Oh yeah. Um, so we've talked about it and we were like, why wouldn't we? Cause it would be like a big fun event. And then we could have our own little intimate wedding with close family and friends. I know you might as well get a free wedding dress. You're going to get everything for free. Just don't star Jones it where you're wearing like an earring and a tiara

and a bracelet because it's free. She's like every accoutrement possible. No, I will not do that. I promise. We'll help you. Just ask us

and then we'll keep you. Yeah, obviously, we're now your wedding planners. We're there. Hey, you are very helpful so far. Yeah. All right. Speaking of being helpful,

you're going to help us answer our fans' questions and help them figure out their lives because you've done an incredible job of figuring out your own. Yes.

She figured out how to have sex on an airplane. I'm so jealous. Life made. ask the lady gang kelty is looking like an insane person over here she's really drunk so jealous one glass of champagne no she had three you had three three oh my homie from leduc alberta i used to wear a white i remember honestly this is my memory of the last memory i think when i saw you

someone died and we were at a funeral and i was i got my i was very poor i was like poor and from goodwill we got i got a matching white pant and jean jacket set and i wore it to the funeral that's a really weird color to wear to a funeral do you wear white to canadian funerals did you ever that's the thing did you get the clothes the hand-me-down clothes from katherine yes i got some oh i got like garbage bags because i think we were poor i think we were poorer than you and we got the clothes from katherine yeah she was not talking about the best i told you there's a trifecta of best friend moms okay yeah and maybe tell the listeners i know you guys i was i was thinking what they don't read mine i know i was like what so you guys were pouring got

hand-me-down clothes yes and it was awesome you didn't get very many so sorry about your life i got a couple that's cute i think she's getting all the free clothes she wants now yeah that's true it all turned out okay all right guys so we're gonna go into our last section of the podcast which is my favorite because we get to give you guys advice and i think that's pretty great and caitlin kind of has her life together that's so great to hear at the age of 30 i feel really good about that i think that you can like kind of give advice we give advice all the time i don't know if we're qualified for it but at least you've done something successful and like have some kind of you know something to base it off of but before we get into our questions i just want to let you

guys know if you want to get 20 off of jackbanic.com you can use code lady gang and buy all the clothes that your heart desires and it's only for this podcast i'm not putting it anywhere else so use that code i love you okay let's get started so our first question is from savannah bisale on email and she says i'm 17 years old how do you deal with insecurities and favoritism for as long as i can remember i've been told i'm not talented enough to make it as an actress or singer i'm in glee club and drama but all my friends and sisters talents go noticed but i'm just plain old savannah help me oh savannah first of all i feel like every successful artist their story starts with i was a nobody and people said i would never make it and i got told no

i feel like yeah and then it's like now i'm john mayer so wasn't it it was kobe or shaquille o'neal or somebody couldn't get on their high school basketball team one of one of those yeah i feel like at 17 who isn't insecure though like when i was 17 i was so insecure yeah and i have sort of like a secret for savannah like i was this girl i definitely was not like the i was not the cream that was rising to the top at 17. I was just like struggling to get by. I don't have that many innate talents. It was really, honestly, a lot of like persistence and a little insanity because I was so determined to prove everyone wrong who thought that I wasn't great, that that kind of fueled me into my career. And I go to lots of therapy now to try to fix that, reverse that.

Um, but you know what? I don't think that most people who make it in their industries weren't necessarily the most naturally gifted. I think it's hard effing work. And I think it's like one of those things too. If you've been told, if you've had like yes men around you your entire life, then I don't feel like you appreciate your hard work and like what you've accomplished. Whereas like if you've gotten knocked down and we've talked about this a million times, how many times we've gotten knocked down, it just gives you that persistence to, to prove everybody wrong and to appreciate the work that you're putting in yourself i guess kind of like caitlin and sean no one said it would last yeah and here you are exactly okay our next question comes from katie

on email too and she says one of my best friends is a lesbian i've always supported her and she recently told me that she has feelings for me i'm flattered but now i am stuck and i'm not sure how to handle this is this straight pun out of a movie what should i do caitlin yikes that's hard no i just well oh man i've never had that happen to me so i'm not sure but the friend that is the lesbian she obviously knows it's never gonna happen maybe yeah i mean i flirt with my friends And so they can just have a flirty relationship. Yeah, that's hard. That's a tough one.

That is tough. I mean, I have a thing where like for me, I can't actually spend time with another person, like a guy in most cases that I feel like has feelings for me that I don't have the same feelings. So it's kind of hard to even have a friendship in those situations. I may be like a weirdo, but for me, it's like it's not a good feeling. no especially if i mean you aren't attracted to that sex too there's like literally no chance yeah it's just uncomfortable the most important thing in life is just like you have to be honest

and her friend was honest and that's her friend was honest yay you you get a trophy and then it makes it uncomfortable but you have to be honest back i love you you're my best friend i'll love you forever and i'm so excited that you feel confident enough to come out i'm gonna support you ever forever let's have like a little french kiss to see if i'm 100 sure let's get drunk and come down to my nether regions and try this out and let me see if i feel anything and then when you're a hundred percent sure yeah yeah advice is drink a bottle of wine invite your friend over maybe have some stuff happen and then revisit how you see a hundred percent if you don't still feel anything in the morning then you can just you know you'll probably feel something though

i feel like lesbians really know what they're doing and also here's the thing they seem to yeah yeah also if you're young there's a time to experiment you know that's why that's why i asked how old they were yeah look at becca taking selfies that's taking a selfie because it's like so late at night people think i die unless i text them back okay that happened to you guys yeah well my oh my god my mom my whole family my sister will call me twice and i'm dead if i don't answer the second time so okay just showing her right okay all right that's a good selfie though thank you okay our last question is from agron's little lamb on oh my gosh she follows me oh my god she she constantly tweets me i love her oh oh becca loves you love you she asks how do you

tell if a guy has feelings for you oh kaylin i feel like it's obvious i feel like they probably tell you yeah i was gonna say doesn't he tell you um where did i was just watching something where they oh it was full house yes i was just watching full house full house or fuller house just full okay full house and they said if the guy like fixes his hair but that's full house i don't know i feel like it's all if he fixes his hair with his left hand and does a little swoop that means he's into you if he gets the boner when he talks to you he probably likes you yep but here's the thing when you're in high school or young and guys don't have the confidence to really like hate on you kind of it's like oh let me punch you in the face that means you it's very

confusing it is confusing but they're so simple at the same time yeah they are men are simple idiots yes they're so dumb and they're so black and white and if he likes you and if he wants you're gonna know and if he doesn't you should have confidence and ask him if he likes her that's good or if you're old enough to drink you could also do what we suggested for the last question just get really bombed together and usually you'll find out oh here's yeah if you drink a bottle if you each drink a bottle of wine and are in a room together and you don't have some sexy time then he doesn't like you or he's gay very good the thing is with men i feel like and i'm two sheets to the wind at the moment but they're very black and white yeah like just said

Kelty turns into my mother when she drinks where she like literally repeats what you said but says it in a way that like is groundbreaking I think that if we have a bottle of wine and things don't happen Kelty if you don't have sex with your husband tonight I don't even know you died you died on your way home you died no but I think that in general like listen I want to tell egg runs little lamb i mean i i spent so many years i really was confused and i let people treat me awful because yeah it was definitely desperado and it was just because i thought all the things that they were telling me were their feelings and the truth is i think with men they really are they show you yeah the way they act if they're calling you if they're tweeting

you if they're trying to call you out if they want to go on they pay attention to you if they're sending you a dick pic like they like you but all the other stuff that girls i'm talking to the crazy women here all the other stuff that the girls all get in our heads and we're like well he looked at me and oh this one time he posted a kanye song that i liked and he would have remembered that for my birthday i need i need to jump in you're watching this season of the bachelor right no you're not what gives me so much anxiety oh yeah i guess that you can't oh my god there's such there's a there's a crazy girl on it which i've heard about olivia oh olivia olivia she's crazier than lace in a really weird way because like what you were saying she

was talking about she's like well ben touched my leg as he was like like jumping out of his chair and i think that touch really meant that like that was like solidifying and she's like when he hugs me he squeezes me twice and i think that's our little signal to each other that's what every girl thinks on that show i thought that was chris all the time you did yeah i just didn't admit it but yeah oh okay i guess i feel like i feel like everybody thinks well did you take anything in those moments did you give little signals throughout the season like did you have a thing that you did like with sean's always yeah i would like didn't you guys write each other notes and stuff yes we wrote each other notes we got in so much trouble i'd wink at him sometimes anytime

i said the classic like i really think my husband's in this room i'd always make eye contact with him oh that's so cute yep so did he know like yeah you told him like when he i'm an idiot um like when he was coming out to propose he said he was nervous excited not nervous that i would say no or that yeah you know he was pretty confident yeah but how could he believe you because you were dating all these other people i know he's they just knew he just you know man called a soulmate when you know you know all right you guys well we really did it we did it we went in thank you to caitlin for coming in so fun so fun i'm like i want she's awesome you can come back anytime you want thank god anytime your spray tan looks amazing thank you really mad if i see a

lot of bridesmaids at your wedding but well i'm reconsidering okay yeah like any kind of advice that we offered you, if you don't take it, we're going to be personally offended. And we're honestly going to call you out. Yeah. Caitlin, you didn't wear that long sleeve backless dress. I know I'm taking mental notes though. I'm remembering all of this. Good. Thank you. That's all that matters. Guys, make sure that you go to iTunes and subscribe to our podcast. You can get more gems like this in your box every Tuesday afternoon. Now, Caitlin's going to tell her 1.2 million Instagram followers to listen to this. And if you're one of those people and you'd like to also follow us mere mortals you can follow us at it's becca tovin jack vanek and

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