LadyGang - FLASHBACK FRIDAY: Karamo Brown
Episode Date: August 11, 2023The Culture Guru of the latest incarnation of Queer Eye's Karamo Brown talks about his humble start in The Real World: Philadelphia to joining the current cast, how he handles his role in the... Fab 5, and what really happened on the episode when he got pulled over. Then the Ladies challenge him to a game of Yay or Nay! Original Airdate: June 12, 2018 Check out our amazing sponsors!!! Wonderful Pistachios: Check out WonderfulPistachios.com to learn more about your new favorite summer snack! Post-It: Organize your life in a bold way! Find your favorite Post-it products at a local retailer today! Go to PodcastOne.study for the chance at a $10 Amazon gift card!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Each week, we catch up with Hollywood's hottest girl posse, Kelty Knight, Becca Tobin, and Jack Vanek.
Hello, hello, hello, and welcome to the Lady Gang.
I am Becca Tobin here with Kelty Knight and Jack Vanek.
Remember back in the day when we used to do a full intro of each of us?
Yes.
That was wild.
want it to come back yeah kind of i can add that i've done two hallmark movies to mine
yeah don't be jelly okay um how is everybody i mean how do you think i am look at my t-shirt
oh i didn't even see that where do you get i need she's wearing a queer eye tan and anthony and
bobby and caramo and jonathan wow you guys i need that it's exciting i got it on the internet it was
like 16 and i also really want it's like a rip-off one that's our name can we have a kelty and jack
that's what i'm saying oh my god we need that on the merch we need that on the merch store yeah we
need to do that oh my gosh wait jack really quickly i thought of something i said something
in my life today and i felt like it could be something that you could use okay don't you love
when i do this yeah give me free ideas half is horrible and half are great they're usually bad
okay they're usually wait i came i blacked out i let what was it i came i saw i blacked out yeah
i think that was one of my best okay that was you yeah okay but here's my new one credit i didn't
know that it's all of us wait what your eyelashes are so long it's because i'm actually wearing
mascara for one and a colored i love the pop of color liner thank you is it you know it's like
shocking when i wear urban decay it is it is it's like yeah oh she looks pretty no she doesn't look
like a dumpster um okay so here it is ready my pitch this is my pitch i'm nervous if it doesn't
make me rich or skinny i don't have time yeah that wouldn't work why think about it anytime
somebody asks me to do something if it doesn't make me more money or skinnier i don't have time
for it or drunk everything i do in my life is to to achieve those two things yeah there's always
an ulterior motive so you don't think it's a good happiness no no no no if it doesn't make me money
or skinny you know okay all right anyways it was good for me uh now it's time for good week yes it
is bad week oh no who wants to go first am i going or you want to go i'll go go okay bad week so
it's now summertime and you guys know i love to make my manifest list yeah every january
first and I'm pretty good at getting my goals realized like I'm like oh I'm gonna do this yes
and so my goals are not great this year I changed the position of where I put my goal list and it's
not right in front of my mirror so I don't look at it every day it's a mistake I gotta I gotta
fix it but anyway one of my goals for this year was to read 100 books in 2018 because I figured
well if I read two books two books a week right two books a week and which I can you know I love
to read um there's no way i read one book maybe a month right but you travel a lot i travel a lot
on and you read a lot i love to read and you also are reading like books yeah okay let's you're
reading like mindy kaling's like fun book it's true i'm reading like a book on psychopaths yeah
you're reading like erica jane's autobiography so like let's not give you too big of a pat on
the back oh you could skim read that like 10 minutes you're gonna feel even more disappointed
for me when you find out that so far this year, I keep a list in my phone.
I've read nine.
Oh, good.
You're off to a roll.
What's your favorite?
Is it like-
Shantaram.
What?
Did you read Shantaram?
No.
Did you read Shantaram?
Is that like an actual book?
It's 900 pages, which is why it's like it's been taking me a month.
That's three books.
Yeah.
My friend has a really good podcast for book people.
Oh, really?
It's called The Stacks.
Oh, that's cute.
It's really good.
Oh, cute.
Yeah.
Anyway, disappointing.
Nine books.
Is that a bad week?
That's okay.
That's a bad week, yeah.
I'm just so disappointed in myself, but I'm like, well, you said you're a hot guy.
Good week.
So you're going to think I'm lame, but I'm a tea connoisseur, as you guys know.
Yes.
I love a loose leaf tea.
Because you don't do coffee, right?
No.
And if I have to drink a tea in a hotel that is just a bleak, regular tea bag, it's always
disappointing to me.
Like a Lipton is for beginners.
They're sad.
They're sad.
Unless they want to sponsor this podcast.
You made me a tea at your house at a photo shoot at one point.
It was delicious.
Me too.
Oh, you've made me many teas at your house.
You crush the tea game.
Thank you, guys.
Oh, I'm glad you think this is important.
It is.
So I have been gifted and have curated many teas, and my tea drawer is completely full of tins of teas.
And I'm feeling like I can't get new teas until I finish some of the tins because I was like, even though if it's a tea that I tried and I don't love, I still feel like I can't just throw away perfectly good tea.
Nobody wants my old tea, Becca.
Bring it to work and leave it on the counter.
Oh, I guess I could.
That's a good idea.
Yeah, well, it's not like tea is gross when you open the box.
They're so good.
Life is short.
You drink the tea you want.
You should drink the good tea you want because it's like six cents a teabag.
So I'm so glad you said that because what I did is I went through all my teas and I just threw out the ones that I was like, I'm never going to drink you herbal mint.
Like, you're not for me.
And I went online to David's Tea, which is like one of my favorite tea places in Canada, and I ordered three new teas, Genmaicha, Genmaicha Matcha, and Passion Fruit Green.
and they are my three favorite teas on the planet
and so every day this week, I've been
getting up in the morning and I've been making myself
my own little pot of leaf-sleeve tea
of my favorite teas and it is like
life-changing and I know this is so nerdy
but it's a little thing. Good night.
Good for you. That's cute. Good for you.
You're adorable. Drink the tea you want.
Tea keeps you looking young.
Does it? How dare you?
I'm unsure about that. I think Botox
keeps you looking young. Tea has a lot
of antioxidants. No, it's just coffee.
No, it doesn't. But coffee just died.
Black coffee is good for you.
Who drinks black coffee?
I do every morning.
Me too.
I shifted after I did the whole 30.
I do it as like the intermittent fasting.
Me too.
Yeah.
It's the only way to go.
You guys are weird.
Tea for two.
I'll go.
And the two is not you.
Ooh, look at that little rhyme.
Tea for two and the two is not, he's not for you.
Not for you.
I used to do a segment on Glee called Fondue for Two, I think.
Like on the show?
Yeah.
Well, Heather Morris, her character had Fondue for Two and it was like a web series and I
was a guest one time anyways that's really weird sidetrack is fondue always disappointing though
always no i had fondue in switzerland it was epic i had dessert fondue or regular no no it's cheese
fondue but i had it twice and now i will never have to have fondue in my life again i had it
in switzerland i was bummed really yeah maybe you didn't go to the right place maybe i loved it but
it's very like it's very stinky yes cheese that's what grosses me out yeah smell of cheese and
communal like breads yeah yeah and the bread's not and the things they decide to dip in there
questionable like i don't want asparagus dipped in cheese no but switzerland you just get bread
no we got things oh yeah i got things i probably went to the equivalent of like a chili's in
switzerland what's that the melting pot yeah yeah it probably was the melting pot yeah the
stinking rose isn't that fun no that's just a garlic restaurant oh my actual nightmare oh that
sounds amazing oh my car smells like an armpit right now because of garlic we have never gone
on that many tangents before and i'm so chill i know because new kelty so chill new kelty you
gotta go back to it whenever you feel like this could be a five-hour podcast my good week my best
friend alexis who you guys have met that i'm doing the true crime podcast with she was working on
this new show that just got released and it's called a masking a killer and for any true crime
fans out there it is amazing it's about the golden state killer which is the most prolific serial
killer he's raped over 50 women murdered over 12 people the show is amazing it's on hlns everybody
should watch it if they want a new true crime binge oh that's great yeah it's great um week
bad week so i was at sweet greens the other day getting my salad which i love that class
so much nice little sweet greens and i want to be healthy i'm in line i had drank a couple of
croys before and like anybody that listens to the podcast knows how burpy it makes me and becca
so it was just rumbling in my tummy and I'm getting to the front of the line I'm like oh my
god I got like a big burp coming and I don't really know what to do I'm like hold it because
I don't want to like you know burp into the general direction of food but it was you know
it was gonna happen it was brewing so I went to like turn to the side to do the belch and as I
do this this old little lady just walks up right next to me and my poor burp goes right into her
little cute face and i felt so bad that i bought her her salad no way yeah she thought it was funny
though it wasn't that bad but i'm like oh my this is the you know what's so crazy is that old people
can be the biggest assholes on the planet but since they're old we just assume they're sweet
oh yeah sorry about my burp you might have been a total raging bitch my grandpa used to say the
most obnoxious questionably offensive things to people but number one he was foreign he was greek
and barely spoke oh yeah any english and he was just so old that people were like oh gus it's
just him being gus i cannot wait to get there i know can you imagine whatever the shit you want
love it'd be great sorry zach okay here's mine um i was in studio city which is in the hood
and i was at a coffee shop is it the hood where we are right now we're in studio city oh i thought
You meant like, no, not the hood, not like Compton.
No, no, no.
It's like in the neighborhood.
And I went to the coffee shop that I love.
And I get a little annoyed with L.A. people, even though I'm one of them at like 3 p.m.
Why is everybody at a coffee shop?
Haven't you had your coffee already?
Because for me, I justify it as in we record the podcast later in the day.
So this is like at 3 o'clock.
Sometimes my workday is starting at 3 and then we go until 8.
Right.
But most people, I'm like, why is this line so long?
What are you doing?
So I'm standing there already very irritated because I had to get here.
And this is the second time this has happened.
There's a real basic bitch.
She probably looked like we could be related.
So I'm being kind of whatever, self-deprecating too.
She was so annoying and taking so long to make her order.
And she turned around and asked four people in line.
what she should order what what she should order let me tell you this happened again
this happened a few months ago no same type like us but annoying like us annoying like us but this
happened a few months ago and this girl turned around and asked like three people if she should
get her latte on ice or hot i no one gives a shit strangers strangers not her friends even
you're annoying if you ask your friends hot or ice but strangers so you're on a line like think
about it while you're in the line i was so annoyed but then good week this really sweet lady not an
old lady middle-aged looks at me and she goes you look like so adorable right now you look like annie
hall that's so cool yeah it's cute it was a really that's one of the best i love it yeah it's great
so that's it so what's coming up um karamo's here and i'm wearing a t-shirt with his name on it and
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Hollywood had her eye on our guest today since his debut on The Real World.
He was an amazing host and producer for OWN.
If you don't know what that is, it's Oprah's channel.
So Queen Oprah has blessed this man herself.
and the Huffington Post, and now he has found his home and superstardom as a part of the Fab Five on Queer Eye.
Along with his five co-stars, he has blown up the media scene seemingly overnight.
I'm currently wearing a t-shirt with his name on it.
Oh my god!
I'm so proud of you!
Thank you!
I'm so sorry. I bought this from a janky online retailer. You didn't make money on it, and it's your name.
You boys need to get on top of this merch game.
We've already been getting on top of that.
Is this shirt an actual one of your shirts that they ripped off?
No, they ripped off.
They just put our names on it.
It's just like, I got it from like Cafe Press.
I know it's a mistake.
You guys need to get the Queer on the Store app.
But I haven't seen anyone with it on in person, only in photos that we get sent.
Oh, I love you for this.
Thank you.
We are so excited.
We've never been excited for anyone this much.
Can I give everybody a visual though?
Okay.
So Jack's mom was like, I hope he's as handsome in person as he is on television.
when I tell you
this man has like
Barbie doll skin
it's like
a smolder
you've never seen
hey
how are you ladies doing
how are you ladies doing
obviously the sexiest
voice I've ever heard
no one's buying it though
right
you are
and he's so tall
yes
we didn't know this
about when you were
watching him
thank you
everything is just on point
I'm staying
I'll move in
this just can be
a compliment circle
just directed at you
yes I appreciate it
the cutest part was
when he walked into
the studio
and like obviously
we just saw each other
at a red carpet
and we've been covering Queer Eye on ET.
But he was like, hi, you know, I'm on that show Queer Eye.
And I was like, bitch, you don't have to introduce yourself.
Oh, yeah, he just came in and said that.
We're like, we know.
We've been trying to get you.
You know the whole Hollywood scene where people get really, like, arrogant
and they think they're famous and they think everything.
I just am like, it's not happening.
So I just assume people don't know who I am.
And I'm just, like, thankful, you know.
Back it up.
Sorry.
You have a booming voice.
Big voice, sorry.
You're famous.
but the humbleness
is very
it's adorable
and we love it
so when did you know
that you were famous
like this is it
you guys are the
breakout stars of 2018
I would tell you
it would probably be
at HRC
I know at
it wasn't HRC
it was
the GLAAD Media Awards
where we sat together
when I was sitting
next to Halle Berry
and she was like
oh my gosh
so beautiful
I had photos
I had photos
talked the whole night
and this was like
I feel like you guys
would create like
a beauty bomb
and everything would explode if you sat next to each other.
I know, it's unfair.
Like, this is us, like, people were, like, capturing us, like, having conversations.
We're laughing all night.
I'm like, this is amazing.
This is Halle Berry.
This is Halle Berry.
She's stunning.
Wait, what's the biggest celebrity that has, like, tweeted you or said that they were a fan?
I don't know.
Oh, my God, here she is being like, you're so fabulous.
I watch every week.
I binge it all in one Saturday.
Oh, my God.
No, it's crazy.
It's a dream.
Yesterday, Tan, Jonathan, yes.
um yesterday tan jonathan and anthony were with gg hadid i saw that on instagram yeah none of this
was like six months well we were here in l.a yeah otherwise you know they said they were going and
they were like if you can come you know come to the party like should i buy i know should i um
we're way cooler than that yeah obviously and more beautiful let me just say yes
okay um okay so this halle berry moment is a moment you're like why i'm someone because
Halle Berry Watches Queer Eye?
Yeah.
No, I mean, we've had tons of people that hit us up, like Chrissy Teigen hit us up,
Drew Barrymore.
Like, it's been all these people.
But, like, sometimes it seems surreal because you're just like, you know.
Like, you're too famous.
Yeah, you're not watching this show, you know what I mean?
But then you're like, oh, you're watching the show because you're telling me about episodes.
So you're just humbling.
You just love it.
Okay, now, tell me this.
I have heard through my Hollywood sources that the audition for this show was like the
Hunger Games.
It was.
Like, they were, I actually appreciate this from Netflix.
Like, they were so committed to finding the five right guys and the right mix of guys and the right chemistry.
Because the chemistry is.
It's unreal.
Unreal.
But also the sincerity.
I think that they chose five.
There's no, there's no bullshit.
It's so, you feel like every single one of you.
Because you know there's always a bad egg.
And there's no competition.
And you guys are all genuinely so wonderful to each other.
like there's nothing that's like a weird sort of vibe well that's what you're hitting on we don't
compete with each other yeah we all have different lanes and like even now with our careers as the
first season has come out we all do different things like i'm clearly the oldest and the most
activist and i have a clear path i'm all about talking and healing people where jonathan is now
going on this comedian path and he's like doing stand-up you know it's like amazing and i would
never compete with that vice versa it's like we have our lanes and we don't compete anthony is
the sexiest guy on the face of earth so we like to be sexy literally the sexiest undercover sexy
the first couple episodes you were like oh he's he's just like odd like he's like cool but odd
yeah she's like there's this like really hot one and i'm like is it jonathan yeah he's like no no
this one i was like really and then after two episodes i was like no he sucks you in he has
that i keep saying to people like that robert pattinson is that his name yeah well he's way
hotter than don't say that out loud that's offensive but no but you mean i'm talking
where they're like
very like
I'm dark and mysterious
undercover hotness
yeah
what's the craziest thing
during the auditions
yeah tell us about
the audition
oh the auditions
were crazy
so it was like
hold on pause
I've never seen
these girls so excited
about anything in their life
honestly
they usually sit here
and they're like
yeah that's cool
Kelty what's next
they're like
Kelty always leads
me to the views
and Becca and I
are like
and we'll like
sit here
and we're like
she's boring
I can't believe
you're asking for that
who cares
Becca is sweating
I'm so excited
okay so anyway
the feeling is mutual
by the way
back to the audition
They brought in like 300 guys to this three-day hotel conference room roundtable thing.
Did you know you were auditioning for Queer Eye?
I did.
I knew.
And how did they like, did you just like answer a casting call?
No, I was actually, I have a show on MTV that I host called Are You the One Second Chances?
And so I was in bed watching Carson Kressley on Watch What Happens Live.
And he was like, they're bringing back Queer Eye.
So I called my agent.
I was like, I got to get on this.
And they told him no.
They were like, we've already did our casting.
We're done.
And so he went back and was, like, hard-pitched.
He was like, if you see him, I promise you'll love him and you'll hire him.
Good agent.
Yeah, we are.
Yeah, great agent.
Never get rid of that agent.
I know.
Oh, my God.
I never will in my life.
But, yeah, it was, like, round and round after round.
But on the very first day and the very first hour, Bobby, Tan, and I sat next to each other and never locked arms.
I mean, did not loosen arms.
Is that what it is?
Like, I'm doing the motion right now.
I locked the lock.
You were stuck.
Yeah, we were stuck together.
And then Jonathan came in immediately, and then Anthony came in.
And the five of us did not stop being around each other the entire time.
Oh, my God.
And the other guys kept saying to us, you do know this is a competition.
And we were like, we don't see it like this.
And I think that's part of what helped us to get the job because we weren't competing with the guys.
So, like, when we'd go in the room, they would give us questions, and we would come back out and be like, okay, this is what they asked.
Where the other guys were like, oh, I can't tell you.
You'll find out when you go in there.
And we're like, girl.
But also, it's kind of good.
I mean, you guys are the Spice Girls, so the five of you are so different.
Yes.
There's not another you in that group.
No.
So it's almost like a safe place.
That's what it was.
Where it's like, you're not Becca Tobin at the audition with every blonde bitch in Hollywood
with blue eyes.
Right.
You know what I mean?
Like, you knew they needed one of you.
Yes.
And they needed one Jonathan.
And then so it was actually really smart of you.
To help each other.
And that's good karma, too.
That's the other thing.
And we didn't just help each other.
We helped other people.
So we were like, oh, you should do this.
You should do that.
and slowly but surely we would go in
and we'd come back out and five people would be missing
and then we'd go in, we'd come back, five more people would be missing.
That is the most nerve-wracking thing I've ever heard.
Nerve-wracking. I mean, because you would go in
and you'd be like, oh, snap.
Like, we're dwindling. Yeah, and I let that guy borrow
two dollars and he'd give it back to me.
And I'm never going to see him again ever again in life.
But, um, whatever. Is there someone
that you're the closest to on the show?
Um, I would say Bobby and I
are the closest. I love Bobby. Bobby, okay,
by the way, is the most
talented person
Let me tell you something.
Ever.
How does he do that in a week?
I don't understand.
Let me tell you something.
I say this in every interview, praising my Bobby because I love him.
I love everyone.
But I'm like, for me, I have a conversation.
They took my social worker and psychotherapy background.
I have a conversation.
I get to the core.
For two hours.
You know, and then we go have fun.
Jonathan, it takes him two hours.
Yeah, meal, it takes him an hour and a half.
Jonathan's like, you don't really need a haircut.
I'll shave you.
Yeah, he's like, I'll shave you.
It's two hours at max.
I mean, that's not taking away from what we do.
Not at all.
But Bobby, when we leave on that first day, he's like, bye guys, see y'all later.
And he's in the house all day long.
And one time he's like, y'all want to help me paint?
And we're like, no.
No, we don't.
My work here is done.
Have fun.
Transforms it.
It's incredible.
He needs his own show at some point, too.
Completely.
You all do.
I feel like you're all going to get your little spinoffs.
Hopefully not soon, because we really all love being around each other.
We'll keep that.
Yeah, we all want that.
It's like a side hustle thing.
Not a hustle, but.
Completely.
Okay, so where were you when you got the call, like, you are in, you're picked?
I was on the phone with the Fab Five.
No way.
We were literally on the phone together.
Did you all find out at the same time?
So, no, we didn't find out at the same time.
Who found out first?
The thing was that we don't know exactly.
Oh, you know what?
I think Bobby got the call first, and then I got it next.
But we were on the phone, so it's, like, scattered because we knew that it was coming that day.
They said, like, we're going to let everyone know this day.
Yes.
So we were all on the phone, like, did you get the call?
Did you get the call?
Did you get the call?
And ironically, when the call was going on, we were already talking to each other.
Jonathan will tell you.
That is crazy.
So that's who I was with.
I was with the guys I would eventually call my family and be working with.
Was it you five in a group, and you five would make it together, and there was other groups of five?
No, there was singular.
There was ten.
Oh, no, it was singular.
Okay.
So at the end of everything.
So you just happened to be on the phone, like, with those of your guys?
Yeah, we made a Fab Five text, group text.
Oh, my God.
The last day of the casting.
And we're like, no matter what, we're going to be our own Fab Five.
Like, legit.
And so that's why I say, like, when people are like, why are you all really friends?
We became friends immediately in the beginning.
Oh, my God.
And it just stuck.
That's weird.
I know.
That is weird.
Completely.
So crazy.
Because none of these guys I've never seen in my life ever before this.
And now we're together.
That's amazing.
I know.
Crazy, right?
season two gonna i mean i'm nervous yeah it was season one i mean like juggernaut like the most
incredible thing also the first episode of season like there could not wait
they're about to get married they are yeah they were together and then they broke up again and
then they're together and i'm like i can't follow this on twitter this is too much no yes and tom
is having a field day being on twitter and being twitter famous we are getting our life of it it's
like your grandpa who got on twitter and became twitter famous and like doesn't really know how
to use it doesn't know how to use it like he tweeted out his cell phone number to bobby the
other day we're like we're like take that down uh-huh because brandon people are gonna start
calling you i love you know i thought the episode that really got me was the one with the policeman
oh my god and like i mean also the one where the guy came out like that was very emotional but that
was like expected emotions i actually was i just think there's so much skirting around the issues
in the world where you just kind of like talk around it and there you guys went and it was so
powerful to watch you both have this conversation and man it was just like it wasn't planned right
it was not planned no so the the thing was that they had always planned that we were gonna get
pulled over as a gag like we had little gags throughout the show so that was one of them
they didn't want me driving that morning we actually were an hour and a half behind in
schedule because i was fighting to drive because that was one of our furthest ways out and i was
like if i don't drive i'm gonna fall asleep so i must drive and they were like no no but they
couldn't tell me why yeah they didn't want to ruin the gag so i'm like i'm driving and like
caught a hissy fit and so finally they were like fine drive and they were like scared you know to
death because they were like we're putting the black guy in a seat and we know we're getting
pulled over but it allowed something to happen that was like organic it took the show and they
were like you don't have to go there we can like pretend this doesn't happen i was like oh no we're
gonna go here yeah you know i'm the culture guy and we're gonna have a culturally relevant
conversation right is what's gonna happen yeah and your conversation was yeah it was so wonderful
it was so organic and inspiring to people and it's like it needs to be said so that was like
such a wonderful and he and i are like best friends now really yes how is he he's phenomenal
he is like he's um deciding that he's quitting the police force really yes because he's an actor
no she's being more that's probably superman because now he's getting all this response from
like people of color, from like these right wing white Republicans who are like, oh my
gosh, you opened my eyes.
And he realized like now he could be a voice to like bridge people together.
And so his wife is supporting him.
He's like doing all this great stuff.
And then also like he's big on NASCAR and that's like a space where people don't really
talk about issues.
So he's using that as a platform to like reach these like rednecks, as he would say, and
like talk to them.
And I'm like, wow.
Oh my God.
Like you're literally changing lives.
That's so cool.
It blows our mind.
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mouthfuls of joy can power your day now we have a very uh big fan base of you know that we've all
been talking about you in our facebook group for many months so they have um a couple questions
yes the fans okay so first of all um my how can i get my dad on the show he wears zip-off pants
to functions that require business casual.
That's the question.
My dad loves a zip-off pant.
I mean, it is useful.
Do they zip off at the knee?
Like as a short?
Yeah, like when you have a pant,
they become a short.
Let me tell you something.
I used to wear zip-off pants all the time
because I played sports.
And so that was like the best thing ever.
That's relevant for a sport.
Yeah.
First of all, I tell people
when they hit us up like that
is that if you've acknowledged the problem,
you can be their queer eye.
You don't have to have us.
You know, all it takes is for you
to sit down with your dad and say,
hey, how about we go to the store
and I show you a new style,
something just equally as comfortable.
You've acknowledged it.
You don't need us.
Right.
But as far as, like, applying,
we have no idea.
You don't?
I think it's, like,
QECasting at Gmail.
I really don't know.
Okay.
They would already have been
in the casting process beforehand.
Yeah.
And they don't give us any say
in who gets cast.
Right.
That's good, though.
That's actually good,
so you don't know what to expect.
No, we're actually always surprised, so.
Is there any possibility
that you might make over someone
from your own lives
at some point
like someone's mom
or aunt
or like a bad seed
or
I love that
I would love
if we could do that
the less cute brother of you
is there one
is he straight
Mr. Mary Jack
no
please damn it
two sons
both straight
but no
that would be down for that
but I don't think
any of our families
are also private
would ever
like we're the
extroverts
and all of our families
are all like
we don't want anything
to do with the camera
I love that
will you ever make over women
and she says
specifically me dear god i need so much help the answer is yes call me and i'll just come to your
house to make you over um we're hoping so like the big thing for the five the five of us that
we really want to start branching out and start doing women we want to start exploring like the
trans community we want to do so much more you know what i mean is that why they took out for
the straight guy yep okay that's what i was assuming yeah that's so cool yeah because it's
like you know i think they were smart in like allowing the audience to see majority straight
guys the first season yeah and then seeing one gay guy so you can kind of get a taste of it being
different and i think as we go forward i think they're going to be smart and like letting us like
branch out one of the things that we were talking about in the lady gang this actually came from one
of our members but is a really smart conversation for us to have is you know we've always said
lady gang is an escape for people so we don't cover religion and we don't cover politics because
there's people that do that so much better than us like i can't even vote in this country um you
can't no i'm canadian okay oh my god but my point being is that it's also something that it really
does break people in half it's like what side are you on and people don't come around and so how do
you think that you deal with such political and controversial issues in such a digestible way
that people are like crying one minute laughing one minute and then going the next minute yeah
it's years of training first of all and it's also us being open and being great listeners and i think
that's the biggest thing of why this country's so divided is because no one wants to listen to each
other right everyone wants to be clear on their point they want to go to people who believe what
they believe and i tell people this all the time facebook algorithm has screwed us up because it's
the echo chamber it's the echo chamber we all are like oh my gosh we're in a bubble and of course
my opinion is right yeah and it's because the algorithm just keeps pumping up what you want
to hear and what you want to see and what we do is we decided when we first started that we weren't
going to be that echo chamber we are going to listen and allow people to influence us and you
see that with like the cop episodes i think with the casting for all the people that were like your
guests on the show is so well too because i had this conversation with my parents that they were
so open to change and they're so open to those conversations too because you've seen shows like
this and the guests are like oh i don't know like and you know they're not receptive to it and even
after these people are making huge changes in their lives they're trying to make changes in
other people's lives so that's like a huge thing too i would give me a little pat on the back
because the first time around the culture guy they didn't know what the hell to do with him
they were like
I know Jay
I love Jay
oh my gosh
I love Jay
but it was hard
I always felt bad for him
I was like
you don't have a purpose
yeah
and he was in Broadway
so he gave out
Broadway tickets
and when I went in
I was like
listen I'm not giving out
Broadway tickets
if you give me one
Broadway ticket
I'll give out
like literally
the only time I gave out
tickets was to Corey
and it made sense
because he had never
been to a play
but we had already
had this moment
so I was like
it's gonna work
but I was like
my background
is going to allow me
to fix the inside
because we can change
all this stuff
on the outside
but if I can't change
their heart and their mind and help them to see get past this block then we're gonna be hearing
in a month that they all went back to what they were doing before and right so a lot of times
people don't see like these conversations where i had with them you know like for three hours where
they're like crying on my shoulder and that's why a lot of times you see these guys crying
and you're like why are they crying no it's because i had already opened their asses up like
you know like a doctor we're all crying with that like we all see we were crying we were crying
Jesus, man, oh, man.
Oh, God, my brain is so tired.
Hold on.
It's all right.
Oh, over-stimulated here.
No, I'm like, ah, look him in the eye.
Okay, so the joke with Tan is that, like, he's always like, you know what you could do?
You could add this patterned shirt.
He always wants, like, so has he ever peer pressured you to wear, like, a floral patterned shirt?
If you go to my Instagram story, I have one on today because of him, yeah.
Wait, yeah, have you guys taken fashion tips from him?
um because you're all fashionable yourself yeah i would say that tan and i are the two that love
fashion the most so we sort of talk about fashion the most anthony loves a dirty t-shirt and i don't
say like a dirty right but you know like the grungy yeah could have holes in it where i'm
like a t-shirt with a hole in it not doing it um garbage exactly in the trash like i'm dusting with
it and so um you know he's like me and tan always talk about fashion so i take advice from him all
the time because i think he's super stylish but he also has a very specific style yeah you know
what i mean so well it's like the clean cut like he's making everybody look like sharp yes exactly
and it's funny because he and i get fashion questions all the time and i'm always like you
know i'm not the fashion guy but a lot of you know guys one time you went in in the suit yeah
we did it together yeah oh yeah there's actually three times that happened but they cut it
yeah they went yeah have you psychoanalyzed anyone else in the fab five like have you said that
Really?
All the time.
I sit there and do that all the time.
Crack them open?
Oh my gosh, all the time.
Wait, can you come back and crack us open?
Yes.
I know, you're a therapist.
It would take me no time at all.
Really?
Yes.
When Jonathan gets here, ask him, like literally throughout the season, I would get upset if
I didn't crack a guy open and make him cry.
Really?
Like I'd be in the trailer and I'd be like, why did I make, why didn't I get him to get
to his core?
And not in like a sadistic way, but like in a like, I need you to have a cathartic time.
Yeah, what's your word?
How do you get people to their core?
It's pretty easy to find someone's trigger and to figure out what that moment is that, like, stopped them from feeling like they can feel it.
I know.
Everyone, like, took a deep breath.
The air just came out of this.
I'm just nervous.
It's pretty, you know, again, it's just a couple simple questions of, like, figuring out, you know, most of us know what we're scared of or what we want out of life.
And we don't know sometimes why we can't get it or why we can't get over that fear.
Yeah.
And it can always get pinpointed back to one moment.
It could be someone in high school.
It could be a mother or father who said something.
So if you can get back to that, it will open up the floodgates, and then you'll move past that.
All right.
Honey, let's take y'all to church.
You're a f***ing unicorn.
Do you want to open up?
No.
You're like, no.
No, literally, he's even just saying that.
He's like, everybody's like, I almost started crying.
Do you want to have attention?
No, not right now.
We're too fragile.
I literally am too fragile.
Okay, well, I thought it would be fun.
Do you want to get cracked open?
I've already cried like three times.
I'm having like a horrendous week.
She has.
So I don't think there's any tears in me.
You notice none.
And when y'all were saying who wants to get cracked open, I didn't even flinch.
I was like, I'm ready.
No, you're ready.
Yeah, I'm ready.
But we'll, you know.
This will be a private episode.
Next time, yeah.
Maybe you should come back and do it.
I will, I will.
I'm scared.
I'll watch a TV show.
I will.
I'm down.
If we get one one day.
You're going to get one.
You will it.
It's there.
Thank you.
All right.
So I decided to play a game called High or Nigh.
Nigh is like that word, like, I didn't know if I was making it up.
It's like nigh, like nigh.
Nay?
Not.
Nigh?
Nay?
Not?
Like nigh.
Is it a word, Jordan?
USC?
Full ride?
Honey, it works for me.
Is it not?
Do you get a USC full ride scholarship?
Yeah.
You got a work brain, damn beauty.
She is.
I know.
Come through.
Okay, Katie Holmes.
She's smarter than all of us combined.
All of us.
It's kind of embarrassing.
Anyway.
She's like 10 years younger than us.
For the process, no, for the reason to have it.
Nine?
Isn't that no in German?
It's not.
Nein.
Nein.
It says adverb, preposition, and adjective.
It means near.
Departure time.
Nein.
Jordan.
Jordan, you're so pretty.
Nay.
We were looking for nay.
Like yay or nay.
Yeah, yay or nay.
I and nay don't rhyme, so I want to do I or nigh.
And we're going to make up the new word.
We're making it happen.
Yeah.
So now it has a new definition.
I is yes.
I is yes if you like it.
And nigh is a new word created for the Kelty Knight Dictionary.
Yes.
That is no.
We can get this in the Urban Dictionary, by the way.
Oh, you can get anything in the Urban Dictionary.
Do you have an Urban Dictionary?
My name is in there.
So is mine.
Yeah, yours is in there.
It's yours.
Mine is for an undercover black guy, undercover gay black guy that sleeps with women.
I was like, I don't sleep with women.
Are you a gold star gay?
No, I'm not a gold star gay.
I have a kid.
Okay.
But after that, it was like done.
Do you have a kid?
I do.
Oh my God, it's so crazy.
Where were you?
Just in the press, I just read about this.
Yes.
I don't know.
You've been all over.
Two kids.
One biological, one adopted.
So the last girl I slept with when I was 15, she got pregnant.
She moved away.
She didn't tell me about our kid.
And then when he was 10 years old, it was like, hey, here's a stack of papers for back
child support for your child.
How does he feel about having a famous father now?
He loves it.
Because before, he didn't give a damn.
But now, it's like all of a sudden, he's like, oh, we're getting free stuff.
Do you see him often?
They have full custody.
We live in Sherman Oaks, so we live down the street.
Oh, my gosh.
That's amazing.
And then adopt a baby?
And then, no, adopted his little brother.
So they have the same biological mother, but, and let me tell you something.
Their mother is one of the, I'm going to get emotional.
She's probably one of the best women in the world.
Because when I met my son, she was in a hard space.
And when I asked her for full custody, you know, a lot of people are like, how can a mother give up her child?
She was like, please, if you can give him a life that I can't give him, please take him.
And her only request was that we keep the family tight.
so they talk to her often
she comes out here
they go out there
for Christmas
and holidays
and I just love her
because she gave me something
she gave the kids something
she gave our family something
and so
that's wonderful
that's amazing
yeah
I love my son's mother
that's incredible
yeah
where does she live?
she lives in Texas
but she comes out here
all the time
she'll be out here
in like two weeks
great
that's amazing
sorry I just went
I or nay
nine
nine or nine
that's an I
exactly
that's an I
okay
to baby mamas
okay so
So first, I or Nye?
Undercut haircuts.
Nye.
You know where girls have a pony?
Wait, Halle Berry just had that photo.
I love it.
I think it's super cute.
If it's on Halle Berry, okay.
Yeah.
Anything on, yeah.
Yeah.
I think it's, and first of all, it gets hot as hell.
Like, I'm bald, so I don't know.
But like, I can only imagine.
It's like hot as hell.
Yeah, air it out.
Yeah, it's a lot.
And then it's stylish.
And then you can go back to like super sleek.
Or then you can go like.
The grow out is feeling bad for me.
The grow out has to be horrible.
But not as bad as a.
Not as bad as trying to grow out
a shaved head.
Well, you have a lot of hair to spare. I do not.
My grow would be poking right through.
This is my publicist, Lisa.
Hi, Lisa.
I feel like if you
if you're the right type of person for it.
For myself, it's a 9.
If you're Halle Berry, you die.
Orbiting. Do you guys know what this is?
It's a new dating term. Orbiting.
So it's like you start talking to someone
you ghost you get ghosted around that's called submarining no i'm telling you orbiting so say
we're dating jack we go on a date and then i ghost you but then i continue liking all your
instagram photos that's and watching all your instagram stories so i'm just orbiting your
that's the same thing it's called stalking yeah isn't that a casper situation no caspering is
when you ghost and then you run into the person and you're super nice and you're like we should
meet up and then they're the friendly ghost can we call this insecure and unavailable or not
not able to commit like i have so many other terms then i don't want to be mean to you because
we were so excited that you came on but there are rules she is a rules person i love it nine
yeah how could anybody like that yeah nine i'm just saying the term did you like the term for
it i'm into the term i like the term but i'm i already did say this word and it is submarining
It's the exact same thing.
Do you want to fight?
Yeah.
I think I'll win.
What do you guys think of cruises?
Like going with your family on a cruise or like having a cruise?
Listen, I was very anti-cruise.
I was very ni-cruise.
But I've been seeing some people on the Disney cruise lately, and I kind of want to go.
Is it legit?
Yeah.
It's not like one of those like shitty.
No, listen.
Disney does everything.
Perfect.
Right.
Full out.
So these people on these Disney cruises hashtagging Disney cruise because I know you're there
for free.
I see you.
But can they send us?
Because it looks fun.
Hashtag Disney.
Hashtag Disney.
I would go on a cruise.
So it's an I?
It's an I.
I'm going to say I because of that.
I was going to say an I, but yeah.
Let's do a lady gang.
Do we want to do a lady gang, queer eye, crossover cruise?
Crossover cruise?
I'm about that life.
I'm about that life.
I'm about that life.
Yeah.
Wait.
First, we'll spend the first part of the weekend f***ing you up.
And then we'll spend the second half putting you together.
Oh, yeah.
We'll get you wasted.
We'll make you have extra time.
We'll tell you to text your ex.
We'll have you have sex with your ex.
We'll do all of that.
And then Queer Eye can put you back together.
We'll just fix you back, yeah.
This is great.
We're on to something.
Okay, I say it's a nigh.
I used to work on a cruise ship.
It's dirty shit is happening on there.
And P.S., it's toilet water in your shower.
Oh, is it really?
Yeah.
But they filter that.
Sure, they filter it.
It's still poop water.
I mean, we're all showering in poop water here.
I know, but it feels less like I sat across you at dinner
and now I'm sleeping in poop water.
Now I'm brushing my teeth in poop water.
don't ever brush your teeth
on the cruise
well with a bottled water
right
yeah bottled water
so I've never been on a cruise
but my dream is to go on a cruise
with Jonathan and Bobby
so I say ah
so anyways about the
Lady Gang crew
you guys are gonna have
cruises soon
if Master Boys has cruises
you're gonna definitely
that would be so fun
but I don't wanna go
with Tan and Anthony
why
are they gonna get too wild
because they don't drink
and they also don't
like they don't go out
and they don't party
and like Jonathan
and Bobby and I
listen we can replace the
yeah yes
you are replaced
but they could also
just hang out
and do the water slide
you know what I mean
like they can
Yeah, but we'll be too hungover by the time we're doing the line.
I love you.
What if just the three of us and the three of you go, and we also do a ballroom dance
performance?
I'm down for this.
Who can teach me how to do it?
This is getting better and better.
Because three girls, three guys.
Yeah, this is getting better and better.
And you guys can be shirtless, and we'll be in the sequence.
I can have my sling.
I love it.
I'm pretending whoever my partner is is straight, because you guys are all hot.
And I'm single.
Perfect.
Great.
Yeah.
Is it weird for you to be like, there are so many straight women that are like-
No.
You're like sex symbols for women.
We're having sex dreams about you guys.
Are you kidding me?
I love it.
It creeps me out when gay guys are like, you're hot because I'm like, I'm in a relationship.
You know, it's like, it gets awkward, but when girls do it, I'm like, yeah, tell me more.
Hit on me.
That's my loophole in my marriage.
It's just gay men.
It's my loophole.
That's all I've got.
Okay, Auntie Annie's.
You know the pretzel company?
Auntie Anne's, no?
Auntie Anne's, sorry.
Yeah.
They dropped a pretzel-themed clothing line that's coming for Jack Vanek.
I love that.
Well, I'm going to go over to KFC dropped a really good clothing line as well.
So I'm really liking these obscure brands.
Is this real?
Did they really drop clothing lines?
No, they have these chicken tender sweatpants.
They are legit.
Whoever is the designer is so good.
Yes, honey.
You did a good job.
I'm into it.
I know.
That's an eye.
That's an eye.
Would you wear it?
Yes.
I need to look it up.
Auntie Anne's, could it get more?
Wait, can Auntie Anne's be the sponsor for our cruise?
Yes.
No shit.
I'm with it.
I'll wear a chicken.
If I'm a vegetarian, I'll wear a chicken nugget.
If KFC wants to sponsor anything for us,
give me the chicken nugget bikini.
I'm in. I'm wearing it. I'm water sliding.
I'm in it. I'm done.
It's happening.
If I saw you in a chicken nugget bikini on a water slide,
I would die.
You know it would fall off.
I would pay for this.
I would have started a GoFundMe page tomorrow.
You guys, should we?
I'm planning tomorrow. Vision board.
I'm going to say nigh,
just because I have style.
Let me give a shout out to Disney in hopes that they send us on a cruise.
Exactly.
They have a cream cheese filled pretzel at Disney and it is what dreams are made of.
Really?
Cream cheese filled pretzel is delicious.
So it's basically a bagel.
Last thing.
Ariana Grande started this at Coachella.
It's been a couple months now.
And crimped hair.
She has a crimped ponytail.
She's bringing about the crimper.
Jack, I feel like you're in this.
Yes.
That's an eye for me.
I feel like I could pull off a crimp.
Well, you know, because I did the big lion hair before.
I could do a crimp.
I hate to do this to my ladies, but 30 and under, yes, you can crimp your hair.
We cannot.
Hold on, you're over 30?
Oh, my God.
We all are.
No.
Good job.
I didn't think any of you were.
Shit, you guys, you heard that, right?
Yes.
Okay.
This is the best day of my life.
Jordan, make a note of this exact time code.
This will be the new intro for the lady game.
This is going to be on the move.
This is going to be on the crimps.
I'm actually putting the intro of my real
that my agent sent out. I'm putting it in my
Instagram bio.
Oh my god, that's so good.
No, it needs to be in our lady gang Instagram.
Oh my god, this is everything I've wanted in life.
Please don't crimp your hair, ladies.
I'm doing it. I say nigh.
Yeah, nigh altogether.
There's some styles that I like that can come back.
That's not one of them.
What style do you like that's come back?
What are you liking in your women?
I love a high pony in my women.
I love a high pony.
I love a high pony.
So good.
So good.
So good.
Also, I'm into this braid.
Thank you.
Everything about it.
Thank you.
I love waves.
The beachy waves.
Thank you.
No, I'm serious.
You know what I mean?
I should have washed my makeup on.
Are you regretting not leaving your face beat?
Yeah, I had a nice face beat, but because I'm one-armed right now, my makeup artist
was like, let me help you because yesterday I came in with some lashes left after the
shower.
She's like, let's fix this.
But I should have been ready for you.
Okay.
All right.
When we come back, you are going to help our girls fix their lives because we are really
bad at it.
And Lady Gang, wait, Lady Gang, you're like, Lady Gang is next.
We just don't know what we're doing.
Hey, Lady Gang, we need your help.
I want to tell you about a quick podcast study.
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Hey ladies, get funky. Ask the Lady Gang. And we're back. Okay, so we have our Lady Gangers
write in questions and we give them
questionably good advice
but I feel like yours is going to be a lot better than ours
we should probably bow out of these
I gotta be honest
take your braid let's go in the class
you're on
this is our last one
our first question comes from Megan
Megan says I'm 26 years old and I've been single
for about a year but before I had
been in three long term relationships
all in a row lasting about two and a half
to three years I've been happy being
single been able to do whatever with no one
to answer to sorry i was looking for my shoe you're literally rubbing your feet up against
my one it was me i'm like a table sorry keep going okay she's single by the way she's single
she's happy dating has nobody to answer to i've done bumble day it's hung out with some guys and
all that bullshit and nothing has stuck which is all good with me but i wouldn't be against being
into a relationship or dating a little bit more seriously but it seems like when a guy is into
me i get super annoyed like why are you texting me all day every day i really enjoy sharing my
bed with just my dog is this normal to be super annoyed after being single for a minute any advice
for this trash bumble slash dating world like i think i'm decent looking funny nice blah blah
blah can a girl get a second date oh what's her name megan megan so can i see this yeah yeah yeah
because there is so many things that are like there's a lot of things a lot going on here first
of all you keep saying you want to be in a relationship you don't want to be in a relationship
then you're like oh i do but i don't so you're conflicted all around there right i need you to
be intentional about what you want so no more wish washing and that's also going in how you
see yourself you're like i think i'm kind of decent looking never refer to yourself as this
decent looking you are beautiful you are perfectly designed and made just the way you are and so the
thing is is that if you're finding men who are annoying you it's because you're not finding men
who are reflecting you.
You're finding men
reflecting this slow,
self-esteem,
unconfident person.
And I need you to reflect
and be confident
about who you are
and be intentional
about what you want
and you will get it.
I'm going to stop
referring to myself
as a six from now on.
You're not a six.
I am an 11.
You are.
That was amazing.
I don't know what else to say.
I don't even think so.
Sorry.
No, it's true.
I mean,
it doesn't sound like
you want a second date.
It sounds like you're not,
I don't know.
Well, I also think
it's very important
in every woman's life
to go through a period of singleness.
Of course.
You learn a lot about yourself
when you're not in a long-term...
It sounds like she said
lots of long-term relationships
back to back to back.
Like, go be single.
Have your friends.
Travel.
Like I said,
you never know
who you're going to meet
in Germany or Italy.
And it might be some, like,
cute foreign exchange person.
Well, and also,
you might be on a cruise with them.
In Chicken Finger.
Yeah.
Annie Ann's bikini.
I've been this girl many times.
And I think
it's obviously not the right guy
if you're getting annoyed
that he's just texting you like a normal person.
Exactly, that's it.
And a lot of the times, you know, with this, like, first, second date thing,
it's, like, a lot about the chase.
So maybe you would have liked him if he wasn't texting you because you didn't have him.
So it's one of those things, like, you've got to figure out if it's, you know,
a guy that you actually want to pursue a little bit more.
I really like what you said about intention.
Because otherwise, if you're just floating around and open to everything,
I think there's something nice about that.
But when it comes to you and your time and where you're putting your energy, there's a lot of value in saying this moment in time, I'm going to be single or this moment in time, I do want that second date.
So I like that.
And we've not really ever touched on that before.
But she said I was single and she said that, you know, like, I want this.
Yeah.
Like, listen, I will put a ring on it.
Don't play with me, Kelty.
No, I'm telling you.
Okay.
Just in between these questions.
I'm around Hollywood people
all the time
as you know
because I'm super famous
but I'm like
always around
all the most beautiful people
and it's kind of like
a Facetune situation
where it's like
after Getty Images
gets a whole different photo
and they have the lighting
and those big flashes
they don't do that
to mine though
Getty Images
they only do it
to like really famous people
do they do that?
they don't fix it
but like
their publicist
will go in
and take down the pictures
they don't want
is that a thing?
oh yeah it's a thing
so it's like
when I see
you don't have to work
but when I see people
like in real life
I'm always like
I'm always like
oh my god
you're so beautiful
and then I'm kind of like
but I mean
you're normal
Jack's pretty too
you know what I mean
it's like you're not like
you're one of those people
like you look like
you're out of like
already photoshopped
what?
you are
I love you all
you're face tuned
it's annoying
okay I'm like distracted
okay Jack what's next
before we like
can't wait for our cruise
oh my god
the cruise is gonna be
the best moment of my life
okay question
yes
it's gonna be great
question two comes from
yes
whoa man
i don't know what this means yet but okay she says i'm currently a full-time student i just
started working full-time because i need the money i'm cordial but definitely not there to
make friends i sit in my car during breaks and listen to the lady gang yes bitch during orientation
for the job a guy i had made some small talk with asked if i had a boyfriend i'm told i told him i
had a girlfriend and he replied with i like girls that like girls it's weird i responded with a
Naturally confused, disgusted, and turned off face and figured that was the end of it.
Since then, he greets me with, hey, beautiful, every time he sees me.
And the other day, he went with a happy New Year's hug, which I clearly rejected by going in with a handshake.
I'm not confrontational by any means, and I can be annoyingly nice, especially to people I don't know.
My question is, how do I get this guy to leave me alone?
Did she say work with him?
I think so, right?
Oh, yeah.
If you work with him, this is an easy fix for me, first of all.
It's an HR fix?
Yeah, HR fix.
You need to go to the HR and you need to document these things immediately.
And a lot of times, my female friends and also gay friends, they don't feel empowered because they don't want to rock the boat or they're scared.
And this needs to be – because he's exhibiting all bits of toxic masculinity.
All of this is like, I don't – are you like girls?
Great.
That's hot.
Can I watch some time?
Get out of here.
And then also, hugs?
You're – uh-uh.
Stop.
HR.
And if he doesn't go to HR, you should feel empowered to call the police and say, yeah, I'm all about escalating things that far.
And make sure he doesn't know where you live.
Yes, 100%.
I mean, I know I sound insane, but really.
No, you don't.
Because he's clearly, you don't know where he's going.
Yeah, you never, like things start off small all the time and you never know what the last goal is.
And if he does know where you live, maybe have someone stay with you for a little while.
Like after you make the complaint, just because you just.
Detaination.
Yeah.
But most offices have like a non-retaliation clause
Where if you go complain to someone at HR about something
They can't then fire you for being like a troublemaker
Oh yeah no
Yeah
But I just don't want him going to her home
A crazy person
I'm paranoid though
It's the worst like
I like girls that like girls
Ew
Like that's so
What year is it?
97?
I know
Or 2017 if you're in Hollywood
Yeah
Like maybe we can all like have a good time together
Bring her too
He's like, I'm wearing a bathrobe.
Can you get a massage?
Okay, last question comes from Josie.
She says, I live in Los Angeles with my boyfriend.
After graduating college, I am no longer on a student visa because she's from Sweden,
which means that I can be in the U.S. for 90 days at a time.
This also means that I'm not allowed to work or intern for money while I'm here.
I don't have many friends, so when my boyfriend leaves, I mostly sit at home, clean, cook,
go to shops in my neighborhood, or eat lunch at a cafe to kill time.
I'm getting tired of waking up in the morning and not being able to do anything that I want.
I want to work, learn, and grow every day, but I feel as if my hands are tied.
My boyfriend tells me that he wants to marry me in the future anyway, so why not do it now?
And then I can just, oh, okay, then I can get a job.
Got it, got it, got it.
So she can get her card.
That wasn't the plan I had for my life, to get married on paper to get a job, question mark.
If you had all the time in the world to do something but not too much money to be spending, what would you do?
Would you work under the table?
Would you just say, screw it?
all and move home i am more happy here in la but i am so extremely bored you do you it sounds like
you're living his life and you're not living your own life and you will regret that one day
preach sister yeah it's like you can't i mean i almost fell into this trap before where i almost
compromised so so much for somebody that i was in love with and you can never rely on that for
somebody because it's like you're sitting around doing nothing all day when you could be with your
actual friends you could be pursuing your actual own career and you never know what's going to
happen with your relationship in the future even if it's like super secure right now that's true
yeah i would come i would try to get like some sort of job where you could go home and live there
and be based at home and then work yeah in sweden and like try to work for a company there like my
girlfriend um has a job in canada where she works remotely so she works from home so you could work
anywhere in the world like there was a girl an american girl living over in london that i knew
that worked for refinery 29 but she worked the night shift for refinery 29 doing news and so
like she worked overnight. So I wonder if there's some sort of job where you could come back every
two weeks or like every month and spend a month in the States and then a month back and like
live your life too though. Yeah. A hundred percent. There's something you said about
not being underneath him because the thing is, is that she's clearly surviving, but she's also
saying that she has all the free time, which means she could find friends and a hobby and something
to do. But she also said, well, I kind of approached getting married, which means you
kind of are hoping that this guy is going
to take the next step, and you're hoping
that him seeing you suffer, and I'm doing
air crocations, is going to help him to make
the decision. Yes!
See? That's why you're a professional
and we are not! He just cracked Josie
open. Okay, and I want you to
know, Josie, that what you should do is
you should be direct with your boyfriend
about what you want and what you need.
Because at this time, literally, you can make
friends. You can be doing all the stuff you want.
There are opportunities that you can make.
I have friends who are immigrants and are in the same situation, it sounds like you're
looking for a bigger answer from your boyfriend, but you're scared to ask it.
And you need to ask that.
Otherwise, like you said, Kelty, you're going to spend all your time underneath the sky,
which you're going to regret later, especially if he doesn't make the decision that you're
hoping for.
Right.
Wow.
Done.
There are a lot of women that do kind of do the, maybe it's the martyr thing and you're
hoping that he's going to just out of like feeling bad that he puts you in the position.
But then, yeah, that builds resentment, like, so fast.
And also, let's be real, just to let you know, he's not going to marry you, so you should move on.
I'm just going to let you know that right now.
You don't think?
Why do you say this?
So, graduating from college, I'm assuming they're younger.
Yeah.
So, he's in a space.
Also, the fact that she's bored all day long and not one part of this said that I'm spending my days with my man means that he's living his life and he thinks that whatever is going on is healthy.
and you're identifying that it's not healthy
so if he's not mature enough to realize
that this is an unhealthy situation
he's not mature enough to marry you
so move on
drop the damn line
Josie move on sister
alright thank you so much for coming
and changing our lives
did I help with the question?
are you kidding?
that was the most qualified answer we've given ever
honestly in two and a half years we've never actually given good advice
this will be the first episode on record
I doubt that
I loved all your advice.
We are.
Our advice is like, you should probably just drink a bottle of wine.
Watch some Netflix.
Online shop.
Don't worry about your credit.
Okay.
Thank you for coming.
You guys can follow along, I guess, on your Instagram to find out about the new season.
Yes.
At Karamo Brown on all my social media.
Do you have any idea when it's coming?
We're hoping soon.
It should be very, very soon.
Netflix hasn't given us the exact date yet, but.
Were you so pumped when you got that pickup?
Oh, my gosh.
I mean, did you think you would it?
We didn't.
Really?
We didn't know.
We actually were.
It was kind of a late bloomer.
It was like the first couple, you were like, I'm not going to watch that.
It came out in February.
Okay.
And then it just sort of like rolling and then, you know.
Oh, yeah.
I think I watched it.
But also, we were all scared.
This is like a reboot.
So, we all were like, oh, this is either going to fail miserably or it's going to be successful.
Right.
So, I cried when I found out.
You did?
I did.
I'm not even lying.
Of course.
I cried.
Of course.
Like a big baby.
How long does it take you guys to shoot a season?
Four and a half months.
Great.
yeah it takes some time
it's like a week and a half
for every guy
yes
and we go
we don't have any
we have one day off really
oh my god
that's it
damn
so it's like
and Bobby has no days off
none
at all
not at all
Bobby's a machine
but it must be like
being at camp together
it is
it's so much fun
we used to like
every night after
we would do this
we would get on the roof
of our building
and we would watch
RuPaul and order food
oh my god
I love Ru
you have to come back
because we have to talk
about all of it
oh my gosh
I can tell you
I can't believe
Shangela didn't win
all stars
like what happened
seriously
Oh, my gosh.
That right there.
If it was not.
If Angela Graham left, I was like, shit on you.
Shangela has to win.
It's Shangy.
Yeah, that's it.
But, you know, there's so many politics in drag.
They got to come back, and then the people who got voted off got to vote who was going
to win.
Well, that's what it is.
If they didn't come back to vote, it's like they were hating.
They were mad.
Yeah, they have all these, like, ulterior motives.
Yeah, it's spiteful.
That's not fair.
Ours is so savage, though.
Yeah, very savage.
Because it's not, like, that whole, like, you vote your friends off.
Like, it's, like, more of a little.
like a Hunger Games.
It's like the Queer Eye auditions.
Exactly.
It's also like
when I watch Top Model
if they ever brought back
the old girls to be like
vote for who you think
should be Top Model.
They're voting for their friends.
Yeah, they're voting for their friend.
It's never going to be
the right person.
Yeah, or against their enemies.
That's so mad.
We'll talk about that
on the cruise.
We'll have an entire
Drag Race screening
on Thursday night
on the cruise.
I should invite Rill.
I know.
She's on here.
Yeah, really?
He was crushed.
He's our second favorite
next to you now.
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