LadyGang - FLASHBACK FRIDAY: Kristin Chenoweth

Episode Date: February 24, 2023

The legendary Kristin Chenoweth is in studio and Becca is the most excited she has ever been! She's talking about her new album, so much Christmas stuff, and her dream role. Original Air Date: October 15th, 2019See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Hey, Lady Gang, welcome to Flashback Friday, where we bring some of our favorite Lady Gang episodes from the vault to you in the feed. We have over 600 episodes of this podcast, and whether you're an OG and you've heard this episode before, or you're a new listener and we're just bringing this up and you had no idea we had this person on our podcast, well, you're welcome. Small caveat here, we are an imperfect group of trio of ladies, and we've been podcasting for almost six and a half years. If something we said in this podcast doesn't align with Lady Gang 2020, please give us grace. For instance, there was a period on Lady Gang where I was not into Taylor Swift. It was a reputation era. I wasn't feeling what she was begging, but now I'm like

a Swifty again. And so I just don't want you to hold me to that because we're all growing and learning and our opinions change pretty much every day. Without further ado, welcome to Flashback Friday. Well, what is this? Welcome to the Lady Gang. That's amazing. Say that again. The Lady gang things are about to change around here each week we catch up with hollywood's hottest girl posse kelty knight becca tobin and jack vanik hello hello what wow hello hello hello and welcome to the lady gang i am becca tobin here with jack vanik and kelty knight we gotta keep that in that was weird yeah something happens to me when we record in a different like day and time than usual and so like i'm off we're because we're recording in the morning we

usually record in the afternoon yeah yeah i also have my invisalign in which i think makes it very hard you know to talk you really don't have a lisp when you talk like jared has a really it makes his he kind of has lisp already but then like it makes his lisp worse yeah no i i was i've been working with it trying to make sure no one can hear it no you're good kelty hears it i don't hear it really oh i think you're great and you would be a great roxy harden broadway oh my gosh she's starting already i know i think that just a few minutes away from china we need to retire this debate after this episode are you sick of hearing about it yes like so sick of hearing about it i'm not so bitter yeah let's have our feel left out let's have our listeners write in

yeah are you sick of hearing about it because they seem to be posting a lot about it they do that i mean you're probably talking about the same five people posting over and over about it well we'll see okay well in that case it's time for good week yes it is bad week oh no i'm going first whoa okay i never go first go for it okay my good week oh so i read was reading this book and it came and it had the best term for something and i've never heard this term used for it before it was skin hunger so it's like that like need to be touched like when chris is out of town all the time and then he comes home and i'll be like falling asleep and i'll put his hand on my back or like he'll rub my head or something there's that skin hunger like you just it's not sex right

and it's not like it's just a massage from a stranger it's like that hunger of just needing to be like coddled yeah skin yeah like affectionately touched skin hunger i like that Isn't that so good? What book was it in? It's my good week. I just finished this book called Maybe You Should Talk to Someone. It's about this. Oh, yeah.

I just heard her on Dax Shepard's podcast. Fabulous. She's so good. The book is incredible. It's huge. It's like 500 plus pages and I finished it in like two days. It's like such a good read. All right.

Here's my bad week. I've come up with a game that technically I love, but I know you're going to hate. It involves lying. Lying? Oh, gosh. So you guys know how my foot's broken and everywhere I go, someone's like, how'd you break your foot? Yeah.

And I've started doing a thing with all the celebrities I interview and making up lies to do with them. So like, I'll be interviewing Kelly Clarkson and she'll be like, how'd you break your foot? And I'll be like, it's actually your fault, Kelly. And she'll be like, what? And I was like, I'm on the treadmill. And I'm like, what doesn't kill you makes you stronger. And she's like, I broke your foot.

And I was like, yeah, you did Kelly Clarkson. And then in the next five minutes, Gwen Stefani comes by and she's like, how'd you break your foot? And I was like, Gwen, I was on the treadmill and I'm like, I know he's no way to end up your ex-girlfriend. I was like, it's too fast to run to. And she's like, oh my God, I feel kind of honored, but like weird. So I've started telling all the celebrities that they broke it.

You can't do this. I love this so much. I hate this. What about if it's a celebrity that's not a singer? So I get that any singer. No, I'm like, I was watching Pose on Netflix and I got so gagged by the category that I fell on the treadmill. It's so easy and fun.

That's, I kind of like that. Thank you very much. I know it's good. No, it's a good week for me, but it's a bad week for you. Okay, go ahead. Okay. I'm going to go. My good week.

So I was with Tanya rad last night and I was helping her set up her like merch store or whatever. And after we're done working, she's like, I'm going on a first date. I'm like, Oh, this is so exciting.

Like he was coming to meet her. So we're like finishing up all of our work and I'm like getting up to leave. And she's like, no, you have to stay and like feel this guy out and like, let me know what you think. I like this.

So I was like, this is weird. Cause I would never bring a friend on a first date, but I was like, all right, I'll do it. I'm like drinking some wine, whatever.

So the guy comes, he's so nice. great job, like super cute. Great. And I feel like I was on the first date. Like I was on a first date myself and I kind of miss dating. So I feel like I have like circumvented this problem of being in a relationship while also getting the excitement of a first date. And that is being a third wheel. Jack's dating service, hooking you up. I kind of liked it. It's kind of fun because like there's there's such an excitement to a first date but it's usually because you don't know what the other person's thinking so it's a way to like get that excitement while also being

in a secure relationship into it yeah so that's my good week my bad week um is simple i think i'm getting a bunion on my foot i am old why the side of my foot like on my bone kills how do you get bunions i don't know what a bunion really grow it's is it it's a bone it's a bone yeah so i don't know extra bone every time i put on any shoe my foot kills me and i think i have surgery for that i know it's like a full-on surgery yeah it's intense it sucks okay becca all right so wait so your foot hurts that's what you're saying your foot hurts i think i have a bunion okay i just want to make sure so like on a scale of like one to a broken foot how bad is it oh i get it okay but no your foot will heal bunions only get worse you can get surgery for bunions i know but

But I don't want to have to, I've never, knock on wood, have had to get surgery. I'm scared of it. All right. I love surgery because I love. Just being knocked out. Being knocked out. That does sound nice. Like a lot.

A lot, a lot. It does sound, it would probably be the only time I'd actually sleep. Actually, yeah. The best moment before you get, I was about to say put down. No. Put under. Is the propranolol. Is that what it is?

No, that's the beta. Propothol. Propothol. that they give you a shot of like inject like a quick little shot like a morphine i don't know but you feel amazing oh hell yeah like it's so good it's like a warm water but that doesn't put you under it's before they put you under it's to get you like chilled out and relaxed before they actually like massive xanax yeah um okay so my good week is that the woman that i have admired since forever is on the lady gang today that's a very exciting day she's the

only person i care about in hollywood that's not true i like a lot of people but you know what it is they always say don't meet your heroes but i did and she's better like you guys will see kelty knows her but like barely she's even better than what you could possibly imagine that literally never happens that never happens and i just love her so much okay bad week um well i am suddenly like a teenager again where i can't predict my cycle oh and i woke up in the middle of the night and it was like a gusher in the bed it's so gross but like to the point where i had to take the sheets off to not ruin my mattress and i just heard that it gets worse like your periods get more aggressive as you get older yeah i thought they were supposed to be slowly disappearing from

our lives. I think they get worse and then they go away. Great. So, well, I mean, being a woman is just brutal. It's a dark time. It sucks. So what's wrong with me? This is the second time this has happened. Well, remember when I got my, I got my period twice in one month. Yeah. My period is usually every 28 days on the dot. Yeah. Me too. It sucks. My period has been shorter. I've been getting it like every 19 or 20 days and I'm like, wait, does this mean I'm going to have more periods in my lifetime? Yeah. Well, I think they're going to come really close together and I feel like I must be going through menopause. I'm old.

I'm not that old. Okay. When we come back, Becca's about to poop her pants. Stop wasting your nights on a mattress that doesn't get you experience the most comfortable mattress in the world. The sleep number smart bed at the touch of a button. You can personalize your comfort,

choose firmer or softer, adjust cooler to warmer, And right now, save up to $2,500 during our massive Labor Day event. Hurry into your local Sleep Number store today, because we have your number. Now back to the Lady Gang. Our guest today may very well put an end to our ongoing who should play Roxy Hart in Chicago battle. As an accomplished actress, singer, and author,

She's conquered Broadway, film, and television with roles in The West Wing, Pushing Daisies, Glee, and The Good Wife. But it was her Broadway roles as Sally Brown in You're a Good Man, Charlie Brown in Glenda in Wicked that left us feeling all the feels and a little jealous that she will definitely become an EGOT winner before I do. Now, after just releasing her seventh studio album, For the Girls, that features, no big deal, Ariana Grande, Dolly Parton, Jennifer Hudson, and Reba McEntire, Please welcome to the show Emmy Award winning, Tony Award winning, Grammy Award winning, way too good to be here, Kristen Chenoweth. That was the best girl. How do we get you that Oscar, girl? I know.

What are we doing? You're so close. No. I mean, I don't know. I've really, I've been a part of cast albums that won Grammys. I would love to have my own there. Okay. But...

It still counts, though. I was part of a cast Emmy, and I call it an Emmy. Of course. Emmy Award winning Kelty Knight. It does. It counts. It counts. You're close to the EGOT.

I mean... I know. How do you, how do you, how do you figure it out? No, you write an original song for the Lady Gaga. That's what I think. I think it could be your musical Lady Gaga. That is such a great idea. I just wrote a song for a Hallmark movie.

Not quite the same, but, but, but can you win an Oscar on a Hallmark movie? No, because it's television. No. God damn it. It's there. Thank you for putting that into the universe. It's good. Well, let's talk about the Hallmark movie because we love Christmas movies.

December 7th. Yep. A Christmas love story. Yes. Okay. Are you falling in love? Of course. And with Scott Wolf.

No. Scott Wolf is my high school's child. What? Your high school what? Did you get to kiss him? I can't confirm or deny if I got to kiss him in the show. Do you remember the Scott Wolf haircut? Yes.

Everyone had it. I would run home on Wednesday nights to watch Party of Five. Oh, my God. I definitely kissed a pillow saying it was Scott Wolf. Oh, me too. And, you know, when you walk in and you meet him and you're like, okay, be cool. Be cool. and then of course I got to like chance to like talk to his wife FaceTime and who I really really

love a lot and she's so cool that and you see them together and just you know you just like oh stab my stab you but he is just so sweet and so funny he's a good guy but there's something about holiday movies because there's this one and then in 2020 there's holiday on Netflix do I have Christmas right yes you are wearing a fuzzy white glove right now too so I'm feeling I'm not really helping my cause you're not helping your cause i'm like but i love a holiday movie and i don't think we've made enough of them in our life weren't you in four christmases i have done four christmases which i love i loved it too i loved being in that film and reese was so good and vince vaughn and all of the people all of the character actors deck the halls and 12 men

of Christmas. Oh my God. Uh, uh, Christmas, I did a Christmas album maybe 10 years ago and then a Christmas love story and then holiday. So it'll be six. You really do like exude Christmas spirit. Thank you. I love Christmas. Yeah. I love it. I've been doing Christmas though all year y'all. So I'm starting in February. So two months and then the break and then two more months. And then now we're here talking. Well, listen, well, the good thing is is that we can break up the christmases with a shirt only cover of the album yes okay let me tell you something i love this i love this for so many reasons a you're hot you're like ageless which is like a whole thing but the fact that you're like you know what i'm gonna do this record

i'm gonna bring all the girls on it and then i'm gonna be pantsless on the cover it's next level Chenoweth thing is a new verb it's like the risk like there's no risk she does whatever the fuck she wants she does was there blowback to that or you were like what are you gonna wear I was like maybe just a t-shirt

but on the bottom I'm like nothing I think nothing and then I took some with just wrapped around the t-shirt wrapped around you know and then I took one with no top and just jeans you know covering myself of course yeah but I just thought it kind of was a throwback

feel for me but also i i was tired and i didn't want to put on pants that day they suck they just suck and i thought why can't i not have pants yeah well and also i think it's very funny or interesting that ariana grande is on the album she also hates pants it's like a pantsless duet i did not realize that right she wears the big hoodie sweaters and just a jean and an over the knee boot a boot a boot no jean no pants a boot and a sweater and you just had just a shirt just a shirt. Just a shirt and like no bra. Just went for it. Tell me the conversation that goes on between you and no big deal, my icon queen, Dolly Parton. I think my head would explode if I was in the room with you and Dolly Parton. There's a picture of me and

Dolly on this. And it's a terrible picture of me. It's the only one I have. My neck looks so old. And I'm like, well, wrong. What's going on? Wrong again. I saw it right when I walked in the room and I practically genuflected. I like bowed. Okay, good. It's like at the altar of Dolly. She's way above Kim Kardashian. You know, she's at the top. She's at the top at the top top um you know i didn't think she would say yes i had a different song in mind for us to do together um here you come again oh yeah better than a body has so i thought maybe that song and then when my manager reached out to her manager because we do know each other but i didn't i wanted her not to feel pressure right you know yes she said well if i'm gonna do something

with chris and i want to do something i wrote and i thought no she's not gonna get she is not gonna to give. She is not going to let me have that. And when she said, let's do, I will always love you. I thought, Holy crap. So, um, I sent her my cut and then she sent me her cut and I did the ugly cry. I sent her a video back going, I can't believe it. I was unable to speak. And she videoed me back and say, well, Christy, I don't know if you like it or hate it. I'm like, I love it. Are you kidding? You can read the, sing the phone book and I would celebrate it. But so that, that, that happens. It's next level. I can't believe that's like

I want a movie with you too I want a movie with you too I would love it so much you know I'd love to play her

long time ago you can be Jolene oh my god Jolene cause they're making the movie right did they make it already I think they did I think they did it

for Netflix god damn it Dolly I love you I mean I need to play her she's staring at the picture you do need to play her that's your Oscar babe that's your Oscar

that's the Oscar you're playing Dolly and then there's a new original song you write with Dolly for the film you win the Oscar you all are each other's

dates to the oscars dolly are you listening you need to chin with this up dolly can you hear me dolly are you with me come on oh yeah it's so good so so i just feel like there's a part of her spirit i mean i have searched the world over and i cannot find anybody it says i don't really like dolly what have you met a person that said never never never ever but i feel like you have vibes you have dolly vibes have you taken did you watch her was she an icon of yours v1 yeah And I mean. Because you have the same vibes. Thank you.

I take that as a huge compliment. I mean, when I was little bitty, bitty, bitty, I started singing and this guy at our church goes, you sound like Dolly Parton. And I went, I just always remember that. And then I just became, of course, growing up in Oklahoma, country music was all we listened to. And that's just my queen. She's the queen.

She is the queen. And then I asked the other queen, Reba. I mean, Reba. Reeves. Reeves. Who looked up to Dolly, too, as well. And then, you know, it's just like generational, right? And then I was like, it'd be cool to do such three different voices on I'm a Woman and get Jennifer Hudson to do it.

And she sings her face off. No, Jennifer Hudson. She has an insane, I mean, insane voice. Here's my next question. You do so many things. Like you have your hand in so many, I would say, divisions of Hollywood. I want to know which one has the best people and which one has the worst people. You know what?

Music people worse than TV people or movie people worse than music people? There's good and bad. This is the truth. But I would tell you the truth. There's good and bad vibes to both. And what they are is just different. When I'm in New York on Broadway, it's no joke. Like, if I walk in and I'm tired and a bunch of people are there to watch, like, say, a workshop, I better deliver.

Because the producer, it doesn't matter who you are, is going to come up and say, oh, that wasn't, we have to, you know, we need to talk about that. Yeah. We need to workshop that. We just need to workshop it. In L.A., I get the feeling that people are like, of course we want you to do la, la, la, la, la. And then you find out it was never even. Right. So I just feel like it's just different.

However, I will say that the speed at which things can get done in L.A. is very, quite impressive. Like what you've just done in one morning of your day, girl. We had a busy day. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And then, you know, in New York, I tend to sort of just do Broadway. Right. You know, or concerts.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. um speaking of your ageless wonder um are there roles that you would love to do like on broadway that you i mean i'm assuming you can get anything you want but like is there like the right like she has like a bat phone to broadway i know but she's like i'm ready to come back but hold on i guess my question is like okay take chicago for instance yeah are you ever gonna go be velma no i know but she's not gonna do chicago no she i know she wouldn't do chicago but like are there Roles that are dark and big and... Oh, we are getting back to Chicago.

No, like, are there roles that... That I would like to play. That you want to play like a mother f***er, you know what I mean? I kind of do. And you're too sweet. What are they? I kind of do. Yeah, what's your ideal role?

I kind of think if I got myself back into shape, like real shape, The Kiss of the Spider Woman would be fun. Uh-huh. Yeah. Miss Candor Nip, my favorite. There's roles, I mean, obviously we're talking about Dolly. She hasn't gotten her due yet on Broadway, really, with her own story. And I would love to delve into Broadway there for her because she deserves it.

Also, I've said the same thing about Reba. Just as a sidebar, just for the girls, I think Reba deserves her own show. Think about what all's gone in her life. But, you know, there's the memes and the Hello Dollies for sure. But Tammy Faye Baker is one that I'm thinking of, which is a very dark and light person. of revisit of i have i'm attached to playing her so that would be something cool and we're doing death becomes her as well yeah so there's a lot oh my gosh you can get whatever you want but gives you i know i know and i'm worried about i need to get in yoga asap because you know all

those maryland and goldie even though they were a lot of it was cgi'd and trickery they still had to get themselves you know who can help you with the yoga poses i know she almost she almost gave up she was like i'm moving to seattle to become a yoga teacher and then the next week she got glee i left broadway and i was like i'm so tired i'm so done i feel so like disenchanted with it all and so i started doing yoga and i was like this is my next calling and i'm doing it and i'm doing it and then i get a call from my agent they're like glee's looking for a bitchy cheerleader and i was like of course they are and you know they've been casting out in new york for a long time And I think because I didn't care, I got it.

You didn't care. Yeah, that's what happened. Yeah, that's why. Boy, you're right. I'm so happy that happened. Me too, because honestly, I will say this, when I got Glee, the only person I cared about meeting was you. That's it.

Are you kidding? I swear to you. I think there's an article somewhere that I did for some stupid magazine. It's not stupid. They probably are listening. And they're like, who's the person? It was Vogue. Vogue.

Hardly. They're like, who's the person that you are most starstruck to work with? And it was you. Thank you. this morning this week when we were like i was like guys et comes first and i get in trouble if i miss like et for this and i was like i don't know guys i gotta go to i gotta go do this dance through the stars things at disneyland and becca's like no this up for me i was like she's like we're doing it if you're not here it's the first show in 300 shows that you're not a part of but like

we're doing it without you and i was like we haven't had a show where all three of us weren't we've had one one another one yeah so it's like are you serious yeah so we made that we can't I was like, you're very important to dropping the gauntlet, but okay. What's the worst show you've ever seen on Broadway? Oh, really? I'm giving it to you. She's sipping the tea. She's sipping the tea.

She's sipping crystal light. I saw a show and I had a friend in it. It was off Broadway and it was about like, um, dance with a vampire. That's mine. Dance with a vampire. No, it was like the beach boy. It was a, there was like the age of the Aquarius. Yes.

Um, it was like all the, it came from Japan. They started a workshop in Japan. I was dating a guy doing it and then they brought it to, and it was like, it was like all that sixties music, like child, groovy things or something. Jack, have you ever seen a show on Broadway? Yeah. We talked about it earlier. I have seen Joseph and the Technicolor Dreamcoat.

Amazing. Amazing. Or whatever. Yeah. And Phantom. And Phantom of the Opera. Okay. You've got to come to Broadway girl.

and you have to see kristen oh let's all go let's all go she's doing november yeah i want to go two weeks we're going november 8th it starts on actual broadway in new york yeah well that's the only thing she does yeah she's not gonna be off broadway i don't know where this woman is not gonna be at like there's not a broadway the tapper theater she's not at the pub down the street so you can't do broadway in la it's only in new york but this is an honest question jack i appreciate There are relatives of mine still wondering that. So thank you. Not all of our listeners know about musicals.

So I'm asking a question. So Broadway and the theaters are not actually on the street Broadway. They're a Broadway caliber theater. They could be on 56th Street. But that's what I was wondering. There's not Broadway caliber theaters anywhere else other than New York. It's only New York. Only New York.

There needs to be. There needs to be. You need to do. I'm so glad y'all are having this discussion. We're here. We're here. We're coming. We're coming in November.

We're coming in November for the girls. And we're coming backstage. And we're wearing Jess t-shirts. Well, I may or may not be doing the same thing. That's hot. Oh, my God. Yes. You better have a fucking expensive pair of shoes on.

Listen, have we met? Have we met? Look at her shoes now. I know. What are you wearing? And what I love is that she's a little teeny tiny. This is a Louboutin you get when you're rich because this you can only wear with this one outfit.

It's true. You know what I mean? Like, you have to be rich to have this Louboutin. It matches your shirt. This is not an everyday Louboutin. Also, what size is this Louboutin? That's five, I think. Five.

Thirty-five and a half. Oh, it's five and a half. So they're a little big, these shoes. Oh, my God. You're the tiniest person I've ever met. Before we run out of time, we have to play our game. I've prepared it importantly. I'm excited.

Queen Chenoweth. Okay. Here we go. Okay. We're going to play a game now called the Chenoweth Casting Couch. Oh, gosh. Oh, my God. Oh, gosh.

Now, Kristen, I'm asking you to put your casting cap on since you're the greatest icon queen goat of Broadway. And Becca and I will each be now pleading our case as to why we should play Roxy Hart on Broadway. Oh, are we? Yes. Okay. You should have told me this.

So begin. Becca, we're going to start. First question. What is your Instagram following? I don't know. 800,000 something? 840,000. Okay.

And mine is 126.5. So as far as ticket sales, you would... Ticket sales. Okay. That's the first clue. Okay. Got it. Got it.

Next. Now we will review our Broadway performance experience. Becca? Rock of Ages on Broadway. I was the swing and the sherry cover. and then i toured with the 50th anniversary of west side story i can't remember which jet girl i was an important one what about um none of them are that's why okay and anything else you want to add you know just tours and regional theater okay what about the trans-siberian orchestra i

did tour with the trans-siberian orchestra okay that was big um i had that's a christmas thing you haven't done yet i would love to hello don't give her any ideas probably because that's cool hey i've also seen that so that's another one in my life in vegas you are cultured in vegas oh yes we did do vegas what if you might have seen me holy shit yeah that was our tour did hit vegas okay back to the casting okay but back to the cast my broadway performance experience is none i would be a fresh new star i was a radio city rockette fresh new star. That's right. That's not a Broadway, but it's Broadway adjacent discipline. Yeah. I know the stage. Yep. I know how to wear a heel on stage, stage, right? I know. Um, and I think

what would be really exciting is that the headlines, I just want to add this and could be like Kelty Knight in her debut, Broadway debut. She's going to be back on Broadway 10 years after she said, and no one cared about the swing in rock of ages. So they're going to be like back. Is the swing ever there? True. What's a swing? Okay. Casting couch.

A swing is the ensemble member who covers every female ensemble track in the show. So basically, it's the hardest job in the show. She has to understudy all of the people, all of the ensemble, and be in the show. Oh, my God. So just in case somebody gets sick, then you can take anybody's spot. Yeah. So you're like the MVP. MVP.

Okay. Next, training. Where did you grow up? How's your training? I grew up in Atlanta. I went to Pebble Brook High School, which was for performing arts. Did you get kicked out of school? I did get kicked out, but not because I wasn't talented.

It was because I smoked cigarettes and skipped class. You got kicked out for that? Yeah, they were mean. They were out to get me. They were flavored cigarettes. They might have been jealous. They were. Were they cloves?

No, they were like those fancy ones. I don't know. It's the equivalent of the Juul these days, like the mango-flavored Juul. I got got. Um, I got, and then I went to AMDA in New York city, which is no joke, which is no joke. I didn't get into NYU. I was not smart enough. I feel like you're being a little biased right now.

But we haven't gotten to you yet. Yes. And then, yeah, I continued training in New York, you know? That's wonderful. Yeah. Okay. Um, I went to the Sherwood Park school of dance. What was the name of that?

The Sherwood Park school of dance. Um, and I, uh, took hip hop and, um, it's a recreational class of hip hop. And what year was this? This was, um, 1956. Um, I studied tap jazz and ballet. I moved to New York, uh, at 18. It took me three times to get into the Rockettes. And, um, even after I had paid someone to teach me the exact routine, so I knew the

routine and still couldn't get the job. Um, and then also Jerry Mitchell said, please stop singing. It's a good thing. You're so pretty at an audition to me. I love Jerry. He didn't. Well, to see, that's going to give you a few points with me right there because I feel bad.

Resilience. You'd be a horrible casting director. It's not going good. The worst person. You get the job. Okay. We have three more things. The haircut.

Roxy haircut. I have it now. It's very short. Doesn't she have? I mean, Renee Zellweger had the short one. Is it a bob? They're like little, it's a party's bob. Yeah, I've got it.

It's true. You wouldn't need a wig. I do have poop brown hair at the moment. That's expensive. Did Roxy have blonde hair? That's an expense. Saves money. Okay, next, vocal range.

Show us a run. Come on, Becky. No! I'm telling you, you have to see a run. Hello. I told you that I was going to, you have to. You know I had a dream last night? Wait, I had a dream just last night.

No, I'm not. I'm going to do it for you, but here's why I'm scared. Don't be scared. Because I had a dream last night that I had to go do Rock of Ages again and play Sherry and they wouldn't give me rehearsals. And you just had to go on. You have to know. And I went on and my voice cracked.

My mic fell off and I had to hold the mic. The actor's nightmare. You had it. I had it. And I was like, why last night? Yeah. I don't know. Because you knew Mama was coming to audition you today.

There she goes. Wait, that's, is that it? I gave you a little warm up. Give her us a line. No. Becca. Don't make me do this. So rude.

Your icon's right here. Okay, I'll do mine now. Can you tell how good somebody can sing by doing that? Well, she's definitely got some high notes. Yes, thank you. Becca, I think you need to show us. Yeah. I'm not doing it.

I love you so much. I'm not doing it. You're so mean. Sing us a song you sang at Glee. This is like asking a 14-year-old boy who loves Michael Jordan to shoot some hoops for Michael. Yeah, and they would. Not at all.

Yes, it is. If you want to be young Dolly in the Dolly Parton musical, you are... No, she's going to be young Dolly. You're going to be young Dolly. You're right, actually. She's going to be young. If you want to be the understudy to Chenoweth on the third national tour of Dolly... I'll swing it.

You'll be my swing girl. I'll swing it, yeah. You want to be Dolly at the Pantages in LA. Yeah. I think Dolly younger years myself. Maybe. Maybe. And then I can narrate as Dolly now.

Oh my gosh, please. If you want to be Dolly's bitchy sister, Hilda. Does she have a bitchy sister? She has sisters. She has so many. Okay, last thing. Shoe size. Oh, my God.

We wear the same. I know. That was a joke. That was a joke. We wear the same shoes. I'm very sad. Do you need a small shoe for Broadway? Jack, I love you.

You guys, I don't understand the requirements. No, you know what? There is no requirement. You can have any size foot you want. But sometimes if you're going into a world that's already existed, they will find someone that has the exact same foot so you can wear the old shoes. I wanted to be Belle in the Beauty and the Beast, and I never would fit the costume. Right.

I wasn't really right. Was Belle on Broadway? That was one where it was like a 5-6 requirement, right? Yeah, and I was like kept auditioning. And they were like, you're good. I was like, maybe you could be a fork or something. But, you know, I could never really get in. So I think to the girls out there, especially who feel like weird about their size, who cares?

It's what made me different. I'm sure it hasn't. I know it hasn't gotten me parts, but it has gotten me parts, too. So to you both, I don't understand why you can't switch off. One of you be Velma, one of you be. No, because nobody wants to be Velma. I do kind of, there are moments in Chicago that I like Velma's role. Is Velma in it?

Velma gets to do the cell block tango and Roxy doesn't. You're right. But Roxy Hart, da, da, da, da, the name on everybody's list is going to be Roxy. She's got the passion. See, look at, now she's going to remember me. He's tone deaf. I am tone deaf. Okay, Becca.

It's okay. Let's hold hands. Have a good spirit. Who is the next Roxy Hart? Because now, you know, they're doing a Facebook watch, like, trying to find it. And we were going to enter, but we can't. Okay. Okay.

My team won't let me. I'm going to say this. Wait, your team won't let you? It's, like, below her. Okay. I think it's with all due respect that I speak to both of you. And, Jack, I think you could actually understudy. But I'm thinking I'm going to go with.

I probably have a better voice than Kelty does. I'm going to go with Becca on this one. But Kelty, first runner-up is my favorite spot because I've been there many times. and you have a cash scholarship to go to my Broadway boot camp with 13 to 17-year-olds next summer. There's some training. You know what my problem was? And I'm just going to go out on this.

I really thought that my Broadway audition song should be Before He Cheats by Carrie Underwood. Oh, why? Why can't it be? That was such a bad song. Before he cheats. You have to really be able to sing. Yes.

I could have picked an easier song. That's a hard song. That wasn't. I know. What? This guy I'm paying $150 an hour on 54th Street led me astray. Yeah, he's not right. No.

There's so many good songs. You do have a voice, though. I have a voice. She has a voice. It is incredibly grating as speaking and singing. Okay, before we run out of time and we get to the Ask the Lady gang, I do want to remind everyone that you are going to be joining the Tabble, I'm going to say this wrong, Tabernacle Choir at Temple Square for their annual Christmas concerts, December 13th, 14th, and 15th.

So we're very busy this fall. We're busy. We're doing a lot of Christmas. Love it. We love you so much. Love y'all. You're never going to stop. I hope not.

You are like the hardest working person in this business. Thanks, Becca. Do you like to do it like that? I want to know. I want to know. Do you need breaks? Yes. And I'm going to have to get better at them.

Okay. Because I'm just speaking truthfully. I'm 51 and I need more rest than I used to have so that I can continue to do what I do. And also I need to be an artist. So to be a better artist is to have more of a life. So I'm getting there. The problem is when you're good at everything, you're not just getting calls from the TV people. That's the thing.

You're getting calls, movie, music, touring, Christmas, Christmas tree, Mrs. Claus, Santa. Like, you're getting a lot of fucking calls. I look up and I'm looking on Marvel. I feel grateful for it. Because I also have a showbiz ADD, so it works out. Okay, well, we can't wait until you get that Oscar. Oh, wait, I didn't tell my favorite Kristen Chenoweth story. Oh, please.

Oh, my God. Oh, my God, I'm nervous. I'm nervous. So we shot in the observatory in Griffith Park. I'll never forget it. And it was you and Matt's duet. Yes. It was, what was it?

It was a heart, was it a heart song? It was a heart song. And we were there for, I mean, maybe 15 hours. 15 hours. At least. But Kristen walks in with a sheet cake. Just because. I can't even remember.

It's no one's birthday. It's nobody, nothing exciting is happening. But she's like, y'all, I brought sheet cake. Oh. and she just walks in walks in you're so cute i think you had maddie at the time i did i had maddie you had maddie your little dog with the cake yes and she comes in and we're she's like we're gonna eat sheet cake and we just sat there and ate sheet cake while we shot this fucking beast of a music number that got cut from the episode i want to see that so badly

should we ask for let's call brad falchuk please brad i got the lovely email the night it was airing that so sorry this isn't gonna make it i was like what but at least we had some good we did have sheet cake there's something makes it all there's something so trashy and delicious about sheet cake i know it's so good i love it don't give me fancy gasoline like i don't know what it's crisco it's crisco it isn't put in my mouth and you know how that tingles all right well the sheet cake queen is gonna fix your life when we come back oh my gosh you're listening to the lady gang okay and we're back so for this part of our podcast we have our listeners writing questions and we give them questionable advice but we feel like you might

give a little bit better advice than we will definitely we'll see all right low bar look very low bar okay our first question comes from fancy nancy you know and they give us usually it's anonymous but sometimes we get a fun name because people used to write in their real names in the beginning and then we accidentally ruined people's lives but yeah we're like we didn't realize how many people were listening like ashley johnson from georgia says i'm cheating on my boyfriend and their life is over exactly life is over okay so this is an alias yes i would hope oh yeah fancy nancy says i've been seeing this guy for three-ish months we hang out once or twice a week he's a real gentleman and i can't complain about the d every time we're together i usually end up having

a good time but when i think about it we don't really talk much at all i wish i could say we're too busy kissing or getting lost in each other's eyes but it's mostly just silence neither of us are big talkers and i never really feel like it's an awkward silence but i'm starting to notice it more and more we definitely have things in common so i don't know what the issue is i've never been good at dating and would usually have phased him out by now but for some reason i want to keep seeing him and would even consider making things official soon. Could it be that we're still warming up to each other

or is this the universe telling me I'm an awkward whore that can't handle a mature relationship? Whoa. Harsh words, Fancy Nancy. Oh my gosh. Fancy Nancy. Oh, Fancy. Fancy. So seeing a guy for three months, they don't talk. Sex is good. But she wants to

make things official. Yeah. I think she... Okay. First of all, Fancy. Fancy Nancy. I would like to know your age. Yes. Secondly... I say, if you're below, actually, I'm not going to put an age on it. If you're having a fun time and he's treating you nice, don't worry too much about the awkward silences right now. But let's say in a year, if you're still with him and it's awkward silence, I don't know.

Eventually, all that love and awesome, like, as you say, the D, all of that things, all of those can go away and you're stuck with the personality. So you really want to get to know someone's personality because that's who you have to imagine being your best friend and stuck on an island with and all that stuff. And if you have nothing to say, it's going to get real boring. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I get frustrated after Zach and I have spent a ton of time together, like on a vacation, say, and it's just the two of us. Like the end of our honeymoon, the final dinner, we were like, I have nothing left to say to you.

And that's after five days of constant togetherness. Yeah. And that was hard, you know. I mean, that's hard. That's reality. But I, I can't imagine that off the bat three months in. Yeah. You should probably be, well, you should still be in that honeymoon phase where you're like

obsessed with each other. And if, I mean, if you're both bigger talkers, you never run anything out of things to talk about and it's exciting. So if you're already noticing, try asking him questions. Yeah. Engaging conversation. What's his interest? Yeah.

I think. And does he talk about her interests? I mean, yeah, that's another big thing. Well, it's hard when you have two, like, introverted people dating and neither of them are the ones that are, like, initiating conversation. Then it can kind of get hard. So I don't know if it's just maybe an interesting match and you need somebody that's going to, like, pull info out of you. Yes. Second question comes from Anonymous.

Anonymous says, I am 23 years old and got out of a long-term relationship a few months ago. I've typically been a boyfriend girl and haven't been single for a long period of time, but I want to take this time in my life to be single and really figure myself out. I'm absolutely loving my independence and having the opportunity to be completely selfish and learn about myself. My only issue is that my entire group of friends consists of about nine couples, so every time we do anything, I am the third, sixth, or ninth wheel, and it's making me start to doubt myself. Any advice on embracing being single and independent while being surrounded by couples? Oh, I mean, I have a lot to say about that. Okay. Dive in.

I've not been married. I've had serious relationships, but I've had many times in my life where I've shown up at family functions, and they're like, oh, crazy Aunt Christy. She's not going to have anybody. And I've been the third, ninth, fifteenth. I mean, it's a family joke now. I say you're at the age that you should – it's great that you have all these married couple friends, but get out there and meet some other people who are like you.

Yeah, yeah. And that will also open your dating pool up. And just, you know, if you want to date and date. When I say date, I don't mean get in a relationship. I mean date. Yeah. We try on jeans. Why don't we try on men or women or partners?

We must date so that we can find out what we like. Yeah. That's my opinion. Preach. Do you want to get married or are you like me? I was always never kind of led with that. Yeah. And that always made me feel a little bit of shame.

Almost like I'm from Oklahoma and the Bible Belt and you should get married. Right. I engaged twice and did the runaway bride thing. now i might be a late late bloomer but now i could see myself like eventually it making a little bit more sense but then i wasn't there right but i i've had great relationships right you know i just wasn't i didn't want to just necessarily get the white dress the the diamond and have that and then i've seen so many of my friends do that too soon and then divorce and i think i really want to be of course i'm 51 i probably know what i like now so oh yeah i mean do we ever i don't

think we do i think our tastes change throughout our lives i think so too well raring for a third husband at this point i'm like what do i want for my 40s someone with a jet yeah there you go baby jet sounds good god damn it that's what i number one was for a green card number two was for love and number three's for a jet you know my grandmother said my grandmother always said marry the first marriage was for love second one was for money and third was just a companion it's true that makes sense but hopefully you keep the money from number two yeah yeah yeah marry a dumb rich guy yeah dumb and rich no i was gonna say this girl's 23 and all of her friends are married so statistically half of those are going to get divorced yes yes so they're going

to be the single third sixth and nine wheel when you probably have found your dude yeah a couple years. That's right. I also think that I was single a lot in my twenties, but I still feel like I could have, could have done it more. I could have dated more. I could have had more fun. I could have sampled more jeans. I could have tried on more jeans, different sizes, the denim bar, you know? Um, so I, I don't think you'll ever regret taking that time. It's really important. And it is true. It's to wait. It's a way to find your person later down the line. Yeah. And you'll really know that this person's right for you once you've experienced all these other men and all the other genes just dating all the genes i like that genes is now really just coined

something the d yeah the d okay last question also from anonymous can you blame them i know she says i'm a 30 year old teacher who recently became the head coach of a varsity dance team at my high school in town when i was hired for the job a few months ago i was confident inspired and hopeful to make positive changes to the program as a new coach unfortunately that outlook has changed in the past few weeks mostly due to drama with the parents of the girls i coach in all modesty i look very young for my age i'm often mistaken for a high school student one on campus which has led parents to undermining me and assuming i am too young and immature when it comes to dealing with their teenage daughters how do i deal with the judgment and assumptions

made about me based clearly off of my looks and how do i prove i am worthy of this position regardless of my age i feel like this is a good kristin question because she still looks like she's in high school from far away not up close i love you becca i would say to her i i did go many many years not anymore but many years looking way younger and also being petite i understand that also sounding a certain way i understand that and not being taken seriously i I think what you're saying, Anonymous, is that you feel that you're not being taken seriously by the parents and therefore they're overriding you. Yeah. I say to you, not to pretend, but maybe you take on a new persona, if you will.

You are the dance teacher. When you come in, you are going to kick ass and you're not going to take any crap because I know how hideous the parents can be. There are shows called Dance Moms for a reason, okay? so girl decide your character your inner character who how strong you're going to be and you're not going to take any crap and that would that doesn't mean um no matter how tall or short you are be a character be a tough ass coach and go in there and kick butt yep amen amen i think so too yeah do you know i was thinking about this show that you were on that i loved so much um good christian bitches thank you i love that show it was so that was like they i know it got canceled or done or

whatever for no reason that was one of the best shows that was the best show that came out that season thank you it was so good but you were like so sweet and then you were like so malicious inside she needs to go go watch the first season of good christian bitches you changed it right yeah it's it was actually called good christian bitches which they should have kept it yeah but it's called GCB, but go watch it and just take her. Yeah. Get tough girl. It was really good. Also, it's going to be really nice down the line when you look so young. I know. Never complained about looking so young. Exactly. All right. Well, Kristen, we're so glad you took time out of your amazing press tour for this record. I see you with all the real famous

people. And then you came to the lady gang and I was like, Oh my God. Okay. We're so excited to have you congratulations on the record everyone needs to go hang out um go check it out buy it support her love her instagram us when we're listening to her and we love you so much and thanks for being a good sport you're amazing all right oh you can follow her on instagram k chenoweth very easy but literally i was looking through instagram today like and then you go through your tagged photos and you're one of those people that's like a hundred thousand plus tagged photos because everyone has a picture of you it's intense anyway i really loved it and then a lot of people have your tony speech from 1999 like re-tagged and posted all the time it's magic

anyway go check it out i mean i can't even believe i don't know that i just know when i post and i do something like random and my team are like kristen we should have rethought that run things by us this is off-brand right now yeah we've got stuff to promote um okay anyway we love you so much and we will see you next tuesday thanks for listening and make sure to rate and review this podcast wherever you get your podcasts. We have new episodes of Lady Gang every Tuesday and Thursday. Follow us on social media

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