LadyGang - FLASHBACK FRIDAY: RuPaul

Episode Date: October 14, 2022

You better work! Because the self-described "introvert masquerading as an extrovert," RuPaul, has found his way to the LadyGang! Whoo hoo! And you are about to be schooled! Ru is dropping wisdom about life, love, career, and believing in yourself! He's also dishing on this season of "RuPaul's Drag Race," what it takes to look fabulous, and surviving the mad world of Hollywood. Original Air Date: May 23, 2017See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Hey, Lady Gang, welcome to Flashback Friday, where we bring some of our favorite Lady Gang episodes from the vault to you in the feed. We have over 600 episodes of this podcast, and whether you're an OG and you've heard this episode before, or you're a new listener and we're just bringing this up and you had no idea we had this person on our podcast, well, you're welcome. Small caveat here, we are an imperfect group of trio of ladies, and we've been podcasting for almost six and a half years. If something we said in this podcast doesn't align with Lady Gang 2020, please give us grace. For instance, there was a period on Lady Gang where I was not into Taylor Swift. It was the reputation era. I wasn't feeling what she was begging, but now I'm like a

Swiftie again. And so I just don't want you to hold me to that because we're all growing and learning and our opinions change pretty much every day. Without further ado, welcome to Flashback Friday. Today's Flashback Friday is our episode with RuPaul. Now, looking back to 2017, I have no idea how we got RuPaul to say yes to our podcast. Not only that, this was before Zoom podcast he literally had to get in his car drive to beverly hills to our studio and sit with us look us in the face it's one of my favorite episodes of all time for the lady gang and he gave advice that i still think about to this day rupaul's my favorite you know i love drag race enjoy the episode well what is this welcome to the lady gang that's amazing say that again the

lady gang things are about to change around here each week we catch up with hollywood's hottest girl posse kelty knight becca tobin and jack vanik hello hello hello and welcome to the lady gang do we have a treat for you today holy crap i almost don't even want to do the beginning of this because we have the best guest ever not even worth it but in the meantime i'm becca tobin actress and blogger across from me is kelty knight entertainment journalist to my right it's jack vanik clothing designer it girl um we're we're ready and ready i do have one quick question this is very important what's your favorite type of ice cream uh mint chocolate chips mine is rocky road um i love that bubble gum but i don't ever have it that sounds disgusting

that's so like there's actual bubble gum in it yeah when i was a kid but i haven't eaten ice cream a long time okay yeah but i also like a whatever mint chip but okay i gotta go all right it's time for good week yes it is bad week oh no um who wants to start i'll start okay i My good week this week is I figured out how lizards have sex. Oh, my God. And I got a firsthand look at it. I always wondered where was the penis, you know? I wonder that with most animals.

Yeah, you can't see the penises. Yeah, so here's what happens. It probably just pops out. So lizard's down on her fours. And other lizard comes across. So it's 69. But they're both facing down. Facing down, yeah.

And he wraps his tail around her tail, so they're connected by tail. I feel gross. Tail to tail. And then they rub the tail area together, and then that's it. How does that suck? She looks like she hates it. I'm sure she does, like most of us. Just kidding.

Where's the penis? I still didn't see the penis. I think it might secrete and then just a hole. Maybe there's not an actual peen. That's gross. I don't like that. It's a good week. I was pretty excited when I was like, ooh, look, two lizards.

And I was like, wait, what? they went to sexico they went to sexico all right it's amazing um bad week so i'm driving on the 101 and the end that's a bad week so i have a little tiny white mini cooper and i'm driving um to the weed store to buy weed for my dog and i'm kind of stressed out about this my first time um and i'm driving and i'm like oh my gosh oh my gosh look at that big truck ahead of me and out of the back of the truck, like a big semi-truck comes an entire slab of plywood. It was like a scene from the tornado movie with Helen Hunt, Twister. And it was like, like flying. No, listen. And I was like, Oh my God, in my head, I'm like the plywood's going

to hit me in the windshield. The plywood hit the middle of the hood of my Mini Cooper, which when you have a mini cooper your hood is like what two feet and then it bounced off my car if it if i had been going one little mile faster or the plywood the wind had been one little bit different it would have gone right through me and cut off my head damn did it like mess up your car it just gave a dent and then i was like did that just happen did i have a near-death experience and i was like destination was so weird and then i texted my mom i was like a piece of plywood almost just killed me on the one oh and she's like see la is horrible shit anyway that's scary i don't like I feel like it was bleak like it wasn't an entertaining

bad week it was like legitimately a bad week he almost died um I'll go um so I usually don't give a shit about celebrity sightings like Justin Timberlake could be standing next to me and I probably wouldn't even notice but I was at Coachella the other week and

I saw Leo and it was very he's the most underwhelming star sighting that I ever have really he's so oh my god mushy and sweaty puffy he's very i've always thought he was puffy but the funniest thing is i was waiting in line at the bar and nobody really noticed him because he was like wearing the cap and he was like kind of in the line he got to the front of the line and everybody that was working at this bar like

20 people stopped what they're doing and just like jaw on the floor and just stared at him nobody was working that seems weird for coachella bartenders because they see everybody i know it was so it was like they saw a freaking unicorn it's because you can't believe that he's not good looking in person that's actually what it is you're like wait my vagina's dry right now what's happening you can't believe how jack kind of ugly he is that you jack i won't let go wait i'm letting go i'm definitely letting go because you're gonna capsize this door that must be what everybody's thinking it must be for sure nobody's so struck at all what was your bad week seeing leo in my realizing the leo and you were not meant to be because he's not hot in real life yeah i know

it really sorry allegedly it really hit hit my dreams um so my bad week i got a spray tan recently and after you get a spray tan you can't wear like tight clothes because it can like rub off your spray tan thank you dr vanek sometimes becca's a doctor sometimes i'm a doctor you know um so i got my spray tan i put on like some sweatpants and like a crop sweatshirt a crop sweatshirt oh my god this is crazy sweatshirt this is insane brandy melville and i should not be shopping there because i'm like 15 year old 10 years out of that continue i like their sweatshirts crop sweatshirts i'm wearing this crop sweatshirt walking down the road the road the street and i'm passing like this group of like really hot

guys i never see hot guys ever in like real life and i'm like oh damn they're so hot right as i like walk past them a gust of wind comes and lifts my hoodie covering my face exposing my bronzed boobs no to this group of very attractive men what did they do at first well so they're like hey oh because i was so damn bronzed like i was probably offensive to some people how bronze i was oh my god so it was not a good um exposed booty what have you learned jack wear a bra don't wear a cropped sweatshirt with no bra underneath i couldn't wear a bra it would rub off my spray tan oh jesus you know all right well um okay my my good week since we're talking about celebrity sightings i am the same way where i really actually don't care about seeing people

but for some reason in the atlanta airport i was boarding my flight to fly back to la and chase chrisley todd chrisley's son was he was on my flight real stretch for the celebrity of it but here's the thing i had to like guess who that was i just love that family so so so much and to me it was exciting did you talk to him no i just stared at him and then i realized i had a sad moment where i realized that he's so young there's no way he would have even noticed me because i'm officially in that like old lady category how old is he he's like 16 or 17 but in my mind i still felt like oh maybe he'll check me out and then i was like wait i'm not even like remotely close to like i'm his mom's age now i'm scared to have children because i'm just gonna

like think they're they're you're gonna be the cool mom cool mom in like a bikini like this is creepy um but i see how you get there i see it you forget how old you are but that was exciting for me my bad week was also took place at the airport um i am walking in to the airport bathroom and um i see this woman filling up a squirt bottle like a little like looks like like you squeeze it and it shoots out water whatever she's filling it up in the sink with warm water and then she takes it into the stall with her is she giving herself i don't know if she was giving herself an enema i don't know if she was cleaning off like if maybe in her culture she like takes a poop and then if she doesn't have a bidet she like uses a squirt but she was

filling it up with the water from the airplane no the like airport like the sink same same but i was like not as bad as an airplane water though and then all i could think about was someone like pooping in the airport bathroom and then using a squirt bottle to like clean themselves and i just in my mind it's like a travel bidet whatever it is and i'm like whatever happened to a baby wipe like just get a baby white paper or toilet paper but i understand that need to be a little cleaner but if you're getting on a long flight and you have like you know go to the bathroom like get a baby wipe like a squirt bottle it would gross me out so much and gave me the worst visual and then it's like near your butt and then do people do this on it is this a thing let us know what

the lady travelbidet.com yeah like square bottle okay so um what's coming up guilty uh i'm so nervous i'm gonna pee my pants she's like how i was when ryan murphy came on nervous af raise a glass with the lady guest our guest today is an international icon since 2009 he's hosted the greatest show on television in RuPaul's Drag Race, winning himself an Emmy in 2016. It's recently moved to VH1 from Logo and is so successful in its new debut that season 10 has already been ordered.

Thank God. His 1993 hit song, Supermodel, You Better Work, is legendary, and I know we have all heard his voice in our heads saying, now turn to the left, now turn to the right. His other hits have mirror messages written all over them, looking good, feeling gorgeous, and a shade, shady, now prance, and snapshot.

He's released 11 albums overall, And he's the first ever supermodel drag queen. And he made us all buy MAC lipsticks before we even knew what a drag queen was. He hosted his own talk show, game show, and is a judge on another show. We love Skin Wars. He's also the single best thing, Becca Tobin says, on Girlboss on Netflix. The single best thing. And he also hosts a podcast, RuPaul What's the Tea with Michelle Visage, which is fabulous.

And you guys should definitely be subscribing to Tide You Over until the next Tuesday when there's another Lady Gang. There's 500 things more I want to say, but this is already the longest intro in the whole world, and you guys know how anal I am, and I could just keep going and going and going. Please stop listening to my annoying voice, and please start listening to the brilliance of Ru Paul. Oh, my goodness. Yay, welcome. I love that.

That's very kind of you. But here, Ru, I literally had to shorten this by like seven pages. There's all the things we didn't even talk about. Well, you know what it's like in Hollywood. you really do have to keep it going because man they they will forget about you so i rarely turn down a job and i you know whatever also i told someone this earlier today is that i like to stay busy so that i can be get ahead of the voices so i can so the voices so i can drown out the voices because they you know they come back and they they try to say you think you're something don't you

You know, you know that, that's how the tour. Yeah. So, you know, and the darkness is, is, is always in my peripheral, hard to, I can't say that word, my peripheral vision. Yes. First of all, I want to talk about Drag Race first. Okay. I was just recently in London with some of our London lady gangers.

London, Kentucky? London, England. And we had like a 30 minute conversation about who we thought was going to win, who was the best. And I want to say Valentina is going to take it this year, but then she only has been doing drag for such a short time. Would it be like unfair for her to win? No, you know, in the competition, if you're in the competition, everybody has a fair shot

at it, you know? And so it depends on how well you do in the challenges. You know, sometimes some vets like Charlie Hides, you know, who's been around for a long time, he slipped up in one of the challenges and is already gone. So how long does it take you to change from suit fabulous into like full zhuzh to walk the runway? Well, it could take about an hour and a half, but I like to take a lot longer just because I can. Yeah. No, it could take, you know, an hour and a half to get together, just like really anybody.

It has less to do with being a man than it does with just wanting to really sort of rev myself up for the runway. Can you please tell us, all the ladies here, how to get that under-eye situation so – because no one does it better than a drag queen. Right. What is the product? What is the technique? Well, you're talking about the highlight under the eye. If you're not careful, you can come out looking like a raccoon or you could come out looking like – it could go really bad really easily. The trick to having a highlight under the eye is to not go too light.

Now, I've been guilty of going too light. I've been guilty of everything, by the way. That's amazing. They can't make this charge a stick, not at this point. But, you know, everything with glamour and being a glamazon has to do with practice, practice, practice. Everybody's looking for a shortcut. The truth is you've got to be in it to win it, and while you're in it, you're going to make lots of mistakes. Has there ever been a time that you've gotten ready and you felt like, I can't go out tonight?

No, no, no, no. Because drag, it's more of an attitude. And then when I talk about taking a long time to get ready, that has more to do with revving yourself up and getting the attitude right. Because like with most things, it's all between your ears. If you believe it, we can see it. You know, when we play charades, or now we play dirty charades, which is, we won't get into that. but um that's the after show it's the after show uh you know if if you if you're playing charades and you want your team to get the clue or whatever um if you can see it in your head

we your team can see it and that's true with so many things in life i like that i know no i i'm telling you the wisdom drops are just going to start falling from the ceiling and we're just going to be blessed by rupaul the thing about that is i i didn't come up with any of these things i'm I just happen to remember them and I'm saying them out loud so that I can remind myself. That's the key. You know, you talked about the voices earlier. It's an ongoing dialogue to keep my head above water, so to speak, to keep myself, to keep that balance. Because being a sweet, sensitive soul, what happens is you can feel everything.

You feel everything. And if you focus on the darkness, that's what you'll get. And so you have to be careful of your power. So, you know, you have to constantly do the mantras and all that stuff. But I think there is something about working in Hollywood. You have to be a badass, too, because no one gets 10 seasons of a show without having to be a boss. Right, by just being so friendly and so lovely. So that's got to be hard, too, right?

It is hard, but life is hard. You know, people talk about, you know, they want messages for young people and children, you know, teenagers who are coming up. The truth is you can't baby safe the world. it's a hard life even if you don't want to be in show business even if you don't want to be a boss even if you just want to take care of your own business and just glide by it's still hard life is hard so you know uh 10 seasons into the show the truth of the matter is i get to work with these friends of mine who i met 30 years ago who we still work together and we get each other and we could finish each other's sentences and having a support team finding your tribe and we'll talk

about drag con a little bit later too but which is all about finding your tribe that's what college is supposed to be it's supposed to be a situation when you find your constituents and your your comrades and and it does happen um on my college just happened to be the east village in the 80s you know and that's literally my next question you were someone who brought something that was sort of underground into the public eye and you were the first, you know, and now every girl on Instagram has the eyebrows, you know what I mean? But, but you really were such a trailblazer and the bravery and courage just to be yourself is just overwhelming. And then the fact that you pushed it into show business, how did that come from? And what was the moment, you know, we always

say in our show, like the Hollywood heartbreak, what was the moment you thought, you know what, I'm done. I'm going to go do this quietly by myself and not be the center of attention. Well, that happens every day. Not the truth. I'm sure. But, you know, the courage part of it, honestly, I didn't have a choice. You know, I was either going to live or die.

And that's really the bottom line. My mother was really, really punk rock. She was an anti-establishment type of gal. And she was someone who would always question authority. Actually, I saw a psychic years ago, over 20 years ago, who told me that my mother was world weary. And talk about the darkness. She had the darkness. And she wanted to – she knew that I was a sweet, sensitive soul like herself.

And she wanted to protect me. And she didn't know how to protect me. But she did bestow upon me the idea of doing your thing. You know, she's famous for saying, unless they pan your bills, pay them bees, no mine. Mere message. Unless they pan your bills, pay those bees, no mine. That's right. Love it.

That's good. It's hard to live by, you know, because we are sweet, sensitive souls and we are affected by what other people say. But when you consider the source, when you understand where someone's negativity is really coming from, it has nothing to do with you. It's actually, it has everything to do with them. You know, then you're able to deflect any type of negativity. What's your ish moment in this whole career? What is the moment that you, you were it? Well, you know what?

It's funny. In 93, the supermodel came out on my birthday in 92. And by the beginning of 93, things were starting to happen. And I was visiting my mother in San Diego at the time, and she was literally on her deathbed at the time. And I knew that this Kurt Loder MTV report was going to come on about me. And we were sitting up in bed waiting for it to come on. And when it finally came on, she looked at me, I looked at her, and she said, N-word, you are crazy. thanks mom yeah and it was funny because um before i was born when she was pregnant with me

she saw a psychic runs in the family um who said well um it's going to be a boy and he's going to be famous so i i grew up with that um that knowledge and i went into show business i did all the thing so that moment when we both looked at each other and said and she said that to me we both knew that the prophecy had come true yeah that's so cool it was cool it was great and she's since passed away yeah she actually after that i think she was um she had about two more months left after that she went on to paris we say that's what we call it she moved on to paris love it you're listening to the lady gang i love a mere message which i consider like an inspirational quote you put on your mirror in your bathroom to remind yourself how great

you are. Your show has mirror messages that are more of a farewell, but do you have a mirror message? Absolutely. My mother keeps coming up again. She collected sayings, and she had a lot of crazy sayings. Like, one of my favorites from her was, I don't lend, I don't borrow, and I don't visit. I love your mom. Yeah.

Your mom's the jam. Well, you know, and she had this one that we still don't even know what it means, but it sounds good. she has one and i actually put it in my song geronimo um she says um blind tom said sight beat the world and we shall see i have no idea what that means so deep i don't even get it it sounds amazing so like my life just changed i'm gonna start living by that right oh new mantra yeah i love that so much i think if you dissect it blind tom who could not see And if he had the faith that we will all see one day, I think it means the truth will come to pass.

I'm assuming. Right. But anyway, so in the family tradition, I've always collected sayings. I say, if you're born naked and the rest is drag. And I say, if you can't love yourself, how in the hell are you going to love somebody else? That's right. And so I've collected these things and turned them into songs and all this kind of stuff. So, again, sweet, sensitive souls have to arm themselves with the knowledge and reminders.

You know, in the movie Inception, where they go into the dream, but they have what they call little totems that they carry into the dream with them to remind them who they are and what's really happening. And these sayings serve as totems in our life so that we and good friends and your tribe will also remind you because we get sidetracked. And it's just part of it. You know, we're sensitive. So the sayings serve as totems. I just hear Rue in my mind every single day. And don't bleep it up. And don't bleep it up.

I'm like, that's my, you know. I have a couple more questions. Number one, are you pissed about lip sync battle? You know, no. It's a rip off. It is. You know what? It is.

It is. But the truth is, that's the nature of the business. And the truth is, we have plenty of ideas. I feel like we're fine. Yeah, we have tons of ideas. If you can take something to the finish line that I said, or if you could finish my sentence, go for it. But we're not threatened by that. I'm mad for you a little bit, though.

How is a drag name made? It has to do, and this is true for everybody, not just drag, it has to do with your own frequency. When you understand who you are uniquely, you will be able to name yourself. In fact, I believe that all babies should be called John or Jane. And then when they're 13 at their bat mitzvah, they get to choose a name, you know, because by then you know what your rhythm is, your frequency is. And that's, you know, a lot of the kids that I grew up with in New York, I say kids, we're in our 20s and stuff. We grew up reading Andy Warhol's interview magazine and reading about the parties at Studio 54. And all of his superstars who moved to New York changed their name to something and then became fabulous in the scene.

So we all did that. So the club kids, all the club people, we moved to New York, changed our name to something, and that's what we were known as. For me, my mother named me RuPaul. And if I were smart, I would have changed my name because, you know, your name ends up on public records. and you don't really want that when you're, you know, in a sling at the gynecologist's office, you know. That's true fact. Yeah.

So anyway, so you choose your name. Actually, RuPaul, that is my rhythm. It literally, it suits me, and it works, you know, in drag, out of drag. It's the perfect name. I think one of the things that our show, before we have a very fun game, I want to take it down to a real level, is the differences between us as humans, I think a lot of times come because we just

are misinformed and it's a lack of education and I often we had Tara Jolie here who's a little person from her show Little Women and I was very confused about like how they have sex like all this stuff so I do want to ask you a drag question because I know that there's

transsexuals and then there's drag queens and then this season you have someone who's transsexual and a drag queen how does this all can you like break this Yeah, it's very simple Drag queens

Transsexuals are focused On identity and they identify With a certain Gender, you know Drag queens say to gender And identity Ha ha You know

I love it We're shapeshifters Now, so there are drag queens Who start off in nightclubs doing shows as showgirls, like we all are, who then realize that they, too, are transsexual, that they feel that their gender is kind of, not kind of, but is the wrong gender. So that's the difference. So there are showgirls who are transsexuals, and there are transsexuals who are not showgirls.

The difference is really, you know, I got to tell you, when I was a kid, I never fit in and i thought you know i'm smart i can figure this out i can figure a way to fit in and i i looked at society i'm just i looked at what it was all about and i realized um after i studied it i want nothing to do with that i feel i'm i'm lucky i don't fit into that thing so i made a pack with myself to never buy into the matrix or never um you know subscribe to the the identity that Madison Avenue, the advertisers, want to stick on me because they need to put us in a box so they can sell beer and shampoo to us, right?

So I thought, I'm never going to fit into that box. And I never have. Isn't that fabulous, though? Your success comes from you just being authentically you. Yeah. I mean, isn't that a wonderful thing? It is a wonderful thing. It's not easy.

It's not easy because you have to be a trailblazer and a frontiersman. You have to find your way. And a lot of times there's not an easy path, you know. There have been people who I've hitched my wagon to, like David Bowie and Cher and Diana Ross and people like that. But at one point, like a fuselage to a rocket, at one point you get to a certain place and that fuselage breaks off and you're out there on your own. You have to draw it from within. Damn.

Are you schooled? I'm schooled. Becca's never usually this quiet. she's just over here in awe i didn't come up with any of this stuff by the way this is stuff i've collected along the way i'm curious like amazing at any point in your career did you feel like you strayed from that path of of listening to yourself and your intuition and who you are sure absolutely there have been times but i've caught myself you know and this is where meditation and this is where spiritual practices come in because um and good friends in your tribe there

have been people who said uh-uh come over here uh come over here and and also listening to the the universe's stage direction you know it's you know a little to the left kiddo and so um that's that's that's been very very very helpful yeah wow because that's so hard though you know it's like you're in show business and you're offered this job to the right and you're like well it's going to pay my mortgage this month it's not really what i want to do and it doesn't really go along with who i think i but you know i got in it oh gosh it is hard to i've done it i've done those things and uh you know and i look back and think uh i'll never do that again you know or you just learn from your mistakes and that's sure but you know it's still early today i may

you never know what's gonna happen you know but it's it's it's important to not take life too seriously now the operative word there is too seriously and you have to decide what's too seriously but you'll make mistakes it's okay it's all right you'll be fine you know i i don't want to get too i don't want to get too philosophical here but there's the a few years ago the philosopher um alan watts became very popular he's in the movie um her and he's just made a real but i've been listening to him for many years and he has a theory that um what if we were uh you know all dreaming and that this is all a big dream and that our lifetimes say last 20 minutes and every time we go to sleep we get to choose what we're going to dream about

and that initially we'll when we start this we want to be princesses and kings and i want to be a superhero i want to fly and then all later as we get used to this concept we think you know what Make it random. I don't want to know what it is. Surprise me. And, you know, for the 20 minute dream, you might decide I want to be a little person or I want to be blinded or I want to be something different. Right. Because, you know, at the end of the dream, you will be whole. You will be that you will go unchanged. So then it's then life becomes not so serious. you realize um i'm good no matter what you know and actually i think that's what it is interesting oh my god here hold the crystal some of spencer pratt's crystals here i saw them here i thought we were going to have a seance or something we might last thing before that was the seance was you i'm like i don't even know what to say yeah we're just like actually the show's over good night i'm high um before we

take a break before our game. I do want to talk. I did actually in fact F it up everyone because I didn't talk about drag con. Drag con. Drag condo. We did not talk about drag condo. I actually went to junior high school with someone called drag con. Really?

No, I'm lying. Drag con in your offensive bio. We didn't talk about it, but I did see that pheromone was there. Yes, pheromone. They were all there. All the queens were there. And so tell me about it. Drag con is our convention that we hold

once a year at the L.A. Convention that this year we're actually going to be doing it in New York City this year at Labor Day weekend. All the queens were there and it's talk about finding your tribe. Our show has a lot of social media

activity with young people around the world. So we wanted to do something where they could meet one another because magic happens when people meet in person. So that's what it was. This year at the LA Convention Center, we had 40,000 people come over two days. It was amazing. And it keeps growing. And I'm just excited that these young people get, and we're talking 13 year olds and

on up, get to come and see that there's a way to live your life outside the matrix and still be successful and still be happy and still have friends. Because that's really what kids are worried about there's so many people out there who never venture into their their dream or their imagination and this is a way to to um you know prove it's possible do you have a favorite child that you've birthed off drag race you know i i of course i can't i am mother mama rue and i can't really say but you love them all equally i love them all special snowflakes yes but you know we've had 113 queens come through there and i gotta tell you in my whole career i've been doing this for 35 years um the most proud i am is uh the fact that the show has launched the careers of

113 queens because they can go and then get the money and get the shows and get the deals because they've been blessed by you if you will yeah well and and the fact that the show is seen around the world um you know they're in i think uh alissa is right now she's in uh south america somewhere i saw a picture on on something they're traveling the world that's amazing everywhere so cool all right when we come back we're gonna play a game of shantae you stay or sashay away okay what's going on now here's the lady gang okay we are back now we love pop culture here so we're gonna have a little game shantae you stay is gonna be whatever we're talking about you like it it's a yes it stays sashay away is get it out yeah you don't want it okay all right

Let's start. All right. I'm going to start with something we already talked about. The Instagram eyebrow. The strong in the daily wares of the life. Jack Vanek, our eyebrow connoisseur. Well, that's the ombre. They call that the ombre where it starts out light and it goes.

Yes. Yeah. I mean, not for me. So sashay away for me. But I think it looks really good on some people. It depends. It's a stage thing. And, you know, if you're on stage, it works fine.

And what the purpose of it is, is to change the proportions of your face. And you can, you know, zhuzh and nudge your proportions. That's what it's about. But for every day, I don't know. Yeah. How does that look every day? Rue, I'm going to have to school you right now. I'm a sucker for a rule.

So I'm going to need you to actually say, Shantae, you stay eyebrow or a sachet away. Okay. All right. Sorry. This is hard for me because you are a mother, Mama Rue. I don't want to take you to school, but I do love a rule. Okay. Since we're with Lady Gang and you guys are not drag queens on stage, for the purposes

of Lady Gang, I'm going to say sashay away. Thank you. Becca? I agree. Sashay away from you. Yeah, like how does that look in a real life? But I am going to say, when are we going to have someone come and do us up like drag queens? Like I want that face.

Me too. I want that face. I want to see it. I had one makeup artist do me really good with that like under eye, the baking eye. And I looked so good. That's what I want to know. I know. I want to see what I can look like.

You said baking. You know it's cooking, right? She said baking. I said baking. Is it not the baking? I thought it was you bake it. You bake? You bake it.

Show us how much I know about makeup. But the queens call it cooking. You cook it. You let it sit for a minute. Right. I feel like when I let anything sit, it just gets into my wrinkles. No, no, no. It will.

It depends on how it's applied. And, you know, the thing about doing drag, and this is true for everybody, boys, girls, everybody, it's like you're Superman to your Clark Kent. Once you put it on, you have to be willing to know how to navigate all the energy that's going to come your way because people react so wildly at looking at you, and then you react very differently when you have it on. That's why when you see straight guys in drag You never know if they're going to be Sort of slutty queens Or if they're going to be the coy You know that thing

It's like seeing the dark side of the moon It's so interesting And that's why everybody, boys and girls, should do it When are we doing it? I know, we need to Let's put it on the calendar Okay, a little celebrity news J-Lo and A-Rod are together

Shantae, you stay for me I love them together I think they're the right amount of glamour They're both from New York It takes a New Yorker to love a New Yorker I'm going to say first before I say Shantae, you stay I'm going to say

I need to see footage of that Because that is too good to be true It's so good It's like some beautiful thing It's too good The caramel skin I hope they have a baby Yes

And call it Alonzo Okay Rue Rue's got the plan let's get j-lo on the phone i mean shantae you stay all day you stay okay american idols coming back it is yes on abc are they doing anything different i have no idea i mean i haven't watched it in like 10 years so so stay away i'm gonna say shantae you stay because i do like that there's a platform it's called the voice but the more the merrier i feel like the more the merrier and i'm always very touched by the people who come on and whose lives are changed

i like that whole thing you know just for the sake of leaving the door open um that maybe they might need a judge or you know i'm gonna say uh sean shantae you say i always get that mixed up by the way you do i do shantae i have to ask michelle visage now what is it again so i'm gonna say shantae you stay and hoping that they offer me a job you know what i'm gonna say the same thing i'm changing i know you're gonna get the offer first but if you turn it down then i'll take it shantae you stay for me too okay you would be i want you let's call j-lo first to make a sex take then we're calling the american idol people to get rue as the host bye seacrest this is great rue's it um okay so i found out that now you can frame tattooed skin from your loved ones after

they pass away like keep it forever their skin you take it off their body and frame it i can't even talk it's disgusting it's just sashay away it's disgusting disgusting i'm gonna see sashay away too yeah like there's other ways you can remember somebody because it's so gross i'm gonna not gonna hold you to the rules this time but i'm assuming it's a face sashay away i'm horrified okay um wearing thongs to the met gala underneath see-through dresses? Rue? I guess it depends on what the theme is. If the theme is

slot. If it's a horde theme. If you're trying to have a homant. Oh yeah. We have some words that you could steal. A homant? A homant.

Please use it. Make everybody use it. It's all about portmanteaus. I live for portmanteaus. Anytime you smush some words together we have a lot justin bieber's mustache is a just dash it's a good one we have lots we have we're gonna make a dictionary one day i love it i love it my favorite word by the way of all time is mexicatessent because and now that i've said it my brain will be saying it over and over and over because i love it so much what is it it's a mexican delicatessen oh my god mexicatessent

Have you ever taken a drip to Sexico? Yeah. And I got Montezuma's revenge. Okay. I like sex. What do you think about making Instagram accounts for your dogs or babies? Becca. Oh God.

It's so hard. I'm not into it. So I'm going to say sashay away. um shantae you stay because when i get a dog he's gonna have an instagram and i'm gonna make we know we know you can make like millions of dollars for monetary reasons i'm gonna say okay i know i can't choose both you can't because that's i wish i wish that it wasn't a good financial decision but sometimes it is yeah that's true i you know i'm gonna say um shantae you stay just because i know how much people love their pets and anything that brings

you joy in this horrible world amen go for it i follow so many dogs live your life live your life prince harry in general oh yeah shantae you say so hot hey you stay so hot and ginge yeah shantae you say what is it about redhead that feels racist it feels something's wrong with that there's like a tom hiddleston it is a fetish i lost my virginity to a redhead really i love them so much. I do, too. I was, like, obsessed. Should we be... Is it wrong for that? It feels wrong. Like, we've put them in another box. Yeah.

Like, the redheads over there. In the cage. The gingers. The sideshow. The gingers. Yeah. I don't know what it is. Because no one wants to make out with them in middle school. And also, either redheads are, like, not cute, or they're really hot. There's no middle ground.

Like Michael Fassbender. I think he's starting to lose his hair, though. Is he? Well, I mean, the balding is in their family. Yeah, that's true. Is he? Because the brother is, but he has a good hairline, does he not? He should get the surgery now before it goes. He needs the hair transplant before it

looks like his brother's. Okay, last one. The 90s, Steve Madden's shoe is back. If you remember it, I will describe it in great detail. It is a black platform, and then it has a stretchy spandex

wide, like a flip-flop. Say no more. Like a sandal. And you walked in high, you walked down the and then it was always like, yeah, slap, slap, slap, slap. It's back. Refinery29 said it. They're also like a very,

like it's a low. Gross. I had a leopard print one. I have many. Many. I'm going to say sashay away. In your flip-flops. And don't they say if you wore it once, you're too old to wear it the second time? I'm really sad about all these resurgences of trends that I want to try,

but I can't because I already have done it. Yeah. Yeah. But see, you guys are young and what happens is you see this over and over again throughout your life. How many times have you seen a choker room? Oh my God. All the chokers.

If I had a nickel. But I remember when I was a kid, I remember telling my mother, bell bottoms are the thing. I mean, they're everything. She says, you know, they're not new. And I was like, get out of here. She said, no, they were in the 30s. Sailors wore them in the 30s. And this is, I'm going to teach you marketing 101.

Someone turns 18 every single day. So you know what you do for them? You sell them a pair of bell box. That's what you do. That's amazing. You know what? Why are we wasting our time doing this podcast? We could be bell bottom connoisseurs.

We've got five foot nothing Becca to model them. She looks amazing in a bell. Doesn't make her look small and stumpy at all. Never. Not stumps at all. Zero percent stumps. No, you won't see those on me. I love a good bell bottom.

Yes, you do. With a crop top. Yep. Imagine that. She's 85. Okay. When we come back, since we've already been enlightened and we're floating above this table by Rue, he is going to help you fix your lives during Ask the Lady Gang.

We'll be right back. Hey, ladies. Funk it. Ask the Lady Gang. And we're back. And we're back. Before we start, ask Lady Gang if you guys want 20% off jackpanic.com. Use code LADY.

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No. They don't know where. It's a bad week for you. You just want to go. Bad week. I didn't make a sale. So for this part of the podcast, you're going to help us answer our Lady Gang listeners' questions.

Okay. Okay, so only if you're ready for some real truth. No, we want you to get real in. Yes, yes. Like, don't tough love. Yes, okay. We like tough love here. Good.

We love it. We do. We tell a lot of girls to wake the up. Yes. Yes. Yeah, good. Okay, our first question comes from Olivia. And Olivia says, my husband and I have issues like all couples, but for some reason, I decided

I shouldn't air those issues with my friends. However, lately, I feel like I'm driving myself insane by not venting to anybody. I want to talk to my friends about things that are bothering me, but I don't want them to hate my husband. What should I do? Do you want me to answer this? Yes. Do not tell your friends about what's going on in your marriage. It is a recipe for disaster.

Get yourself a therapist. Because, you know, I grew up with all girls. I come from an all-female family. I understand, you know, they say that women work problems out by just, you know, bouncing them off the walls and saying them out loud. They don't necessarily want you to respond or say, why don't you do this? They just want to do it. But in doing that, you then make it open game for anyone who's listening. And you don't want to do that.

You want to protect yourself. So I say don't do that. Get yourself a therapist. Yeah. Yeah. because i had a friend once that was going through like a maybe divorce and she told me all the stuff and i hated the guy and then they stayed married and i she's forgotten it because she loves him right i have not forgotten it i still hate him yeah and it's hard for me because now i'm like

oh i'll be the auntie to your kids like yeah yeah yeah and especially if like i don't know if you know some shit is really going down yeah and that like it's you're maybe making a wrong decision by telling your friends and then possibly staying is not good and then you're so mad at your friend that stays oh yeah oh yeah i'm my friends with you i don't even like you right you make horrible decisions if she was going to choose she's going to choose him yeah oh yeah yeah because he's got the you know what boom okay he's got the sexico oh my god that's a place not a thing she doesn't understand he takes you on a trip to sexico yes there you go he gives you a home All-inclusive.

All-inclusive trip to Sexsico. A cruise to Sexsico. Yes, yes. When are we doing a lady gang cruise to Sexsico? He takes you down to Sexsico. That is our lady gang cruise. We're going to Sexsico. Yeah, we are.

Kamosayama. Too much. Okay, our second question comes from Abby. Abby says, I really struggle with my body image. I don't consider myself fat, but I've always had boobs and thighs. As a girl in her mid-20s, I want to be confident in my own skin. I try to work out, eat in moderation, and still try to treat myself every now and then. How do I learn to appreciate my body for what it is?

Okay, well, this is the thing. You know, our perception is skewed. This is, you know, when a plane takes off into the horizon, it looks like it's getting smaller and smaller. But trust me, it's not getting smaller and smaller. It's just from where you're standing, it looks like it's getting smaller and smaller. So the key here is to change your perception. She has, Abby has a warped perception of herself. Because when you talk to me, a black man, yeah, I may be gay, but I'm still a black man.

You know what I like? I like a big ass. I like thighs. I like, can I say titties? You can say titties. I like two tiggo bitties. and you know uh and i don't i like i like that on a man too you know yeah so um unfortunately you know young women your generation all generations are you know bullied into the

fashion magazines and all that kind of stuff when the reality of it is um maybe your other girlfriends who read those magazines don't appreciate you but uh men and real humans who humans who are in touch with their own sexuality, they love it. I give me some cellulite. I love it. Oh, I like a big fat. I'm blushing.

It's amazing. He took us to church, and then he took us to the brothel. Yeah, he did. Yeah, no, that was amazing. That's right. Next stop, Sexico. Going back to Sexico.

Yeah, that's right. I will say this. You know what? You spend enough time hating yourself, and then you get old, and you start having a double chin anyway and it all goes to hell

so just like really don't spend your whole 20s hating yourself because you're the most beautiful you will probably ever be in your life your body is going to be

the best it is trust me it only gets worse yeah and you'll look back at pictures of yourself and go what was I thinking you're so beautiful

gorgeous gorgeous yeah okay our last question comes I nearly cried looking at an old photo of myself

in what in a good way or a bad way no sadness like you just be so young and vibrant in my 20s

and not a care in the world yeah i'm poor it doesn't matter i know yeah oh i'm scared okay our last question comes from serena serena says i have a very small group of girls who are my closest friends they're like sisters to me however lately it feels like i'm losing a lot of them one of my friends is having a baby next month another is moving to australia to live with her boyfriend and i have one who just likes to stay home with her boy her other boy her boyfriend a different boyfriend i hate making new friends but i think it's time for me to get out there and meet new people do you ladies have any tips for meeting new people and creating new friendships i hate

people yeah i i so hate people but um this you know uh i ran into this sounds so uh star effer but um i saw mia farrell recently and uh i told her i said you know what you said something years ago that stuck with me which is getting older is about accepting loss because you know as you get older things just fall away they fall away and you know and it's a fact of life but um uh you know in terms of meeting new people the what you do is you uh you go to classes you go to yoga classes you take um if you have the time you know you try to put yourself in different places but it's just a fact of life that um things change some people will stay forever and if for whatever reason but um it's it's the heartbreak of being on this planet you know and i think also you know

as we get older and you get relationships and start families and stuff you don't really have that much time to be seeing people all the time yeah so i mean one of two of my best friends live in new york and i haven't seen him in over a year yet i talk to them every day and they're still at a support system to me so as long as you have those people in your life at all then you're luckier than a lot of other people yeah i gotta say you know i i haven't smoked a joint in 18 years but for years i was a wake and baker so i had lots of friends back then because it really didn't matter it's like oh come on over well yeah who's who's got a joint let's go find you know so we had all these friends but um you know uh you know as you get older you know and you have to go to

work and you have to do things um i don't do that anymore and i don't first of all i don't have the time for a lot of friends i used to have game nights over at my house and we would play charades and dirty charades and taboo all that kind of stuff but not so much anymore because i work all the time you know and i'm and again i am an introvert masquerading as an extrovert i'm not the social person you might think i am i uh people really get on my nerves you know but um i can do it i know how to do it i think a lot of people in hollywood are that way i think so too i'm definitely that way. I'm 100% that way. Unless you're paying me, it's not turned on. Sure.

Yeah. It's expensive. You'll be entertained, but honey, it ain't cheap. It'll be worth it. But it's going to cost you. Real. It is just an honor to have you here. I know. Truly. You really have, and there's so many

girls around the world that are listening to your words that you're going to impact on this fair Tuesday. But bitches, do not forget to watch Drag Race. Yes. VH1, Fridays, 8 PM. Yes. I have to subscribe to it on iTunes and I bought it like 29 for the season. And then I get the new episode every Friday when it comes out or Saturday morning or whatever. Anyway. Um, sorry. He's like, uh-huh. Uh-huh. Um, follow Rue on Instagram. It's RuPaul official,

the official laughter. Cause he's real fancy. Is there anything else we want? What do we need to buy on Twitter? You know, I do the Instagram, but I'm still, I'm old school. So I'm still mostly on Twitter but you can go to iTunes and get my latest album called American which is one of my best albums ever and I'm so proud of it. Can I just tell one story really quick? I know it's the end of the show

I just forgot until you said that that I needed to tell you this while we're sitting here. Okay so RuPaul means so much to me because when I was like in fifth grade I was at a dance convention in one of those big hotel rooms and they clean up the whole conference area and there was a first ever dance instructor

that was a boy and his name was raj kapoor and raj was teaching us across the floor pas de bourree pas de bourree this like little three-step thing and we were doing it to your song turn to the left now turn to the right and i have this vivid vivid memory of growing up and this moment where i was like turn to the left and i was like really living to your song and it was like and i thought i was like on the broadway Like it was like little Sherwood Park, Alberta with like the crappy dancers of America, of Canada. And I remember, and Raj looked at me, he goes, that was good.

And I was like, turn to the left, turn to the right. Anyway, it's like one of, you know, you have like a handful of growing up memories. It's like little gifs, you know. You really are the soundtrack to that. Like the first time I felt like in my body and I was like, oh, anyway, well then I guess you're going to have to get this new one because I want to see what that does to you. I can't imagine what a little dance will do to it. There we go.

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