LadyGang - FLASHBACK FRIDAY: The Secret Life of a Dominatrix

Episode Date: January 20, 2023

This week we’re getting a little kinky with our super special, sexy, secret Dominatrix guest. Learn the ins and outs of how it all works, common misconceptions, some gossipy kinks from some... very important clients, and maybe even a thing or two for YOU to try. Original Air Date: January 7th, 2020 See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:36 The Lady Gang. Things are about to change around here. Each week, we catch up with Hollywood's hottest girl posse, Kelty Knight, Becca Tobin, and Jack Vanek. Hello, hello, hello, and welcome to the Lady Gang. I'm Becca Tobin here with Jack Vanek and Kelty Knight. Hello. wow that was like almost a harmony i really want to tell you my good week
Starting point is 00:00:59 okay well it's time for good week yes it is bad week oh no guess what sock haters socks help you orgasm huh oh sock haters sleeping and do socks help you orgasm here's why this random trick actually leads to hotter sex sick because your feet are actually hot sex socks help you orgasm because it turns out that wearing them during sex keeps your body covered and it helps you to feel more satisfaction there was a study that did and looked at people's brains when they're climaxing and the people that had socks on felt a stronger where did you find this study it's probably like a sock company i know it's probably a sock company yeah in what what website's that only 50 percent of the regular no only 50 percent of the couples
Starting point is 00:01:56 regularly achieved orgasms and when you put socks on them 80 percent achieved orgasms if you want to wear have an orgasm wear your socks to bed bad week i'm in neighbor jail i i went down to the park with my dad and a hacksaw we tried to cut a tree that was falling on my yard but technically was in my neighbor's yard and my neighbor yelled at me this is the third time this year i've been a neighbor jail i think it's me you think common denominator i fucking hate neighbor jail is there because you can never leave well stop you can't also just stop angering your neighbor stop doing shit that is outside of your fault mine you drove too fast down my street that was the first time i was a neighbor number one i did not you can't drive fast on your street because it's tiny and
Starting point is 00:02:39 it just you just cannot well you were driving too fast your neighbor is a dick no he's not i love you so much sorry about your tree he was pissed same neighbor no he was pissed that we were filming lady gang tv and we had 50 people at your house not that my one car was driving eight miles an hour instead of five i have like the nicest neighbor ever who has a fluffy white dog and he was like hey man like i just gotta tell you like i'm a pretty cool guy and this is pretty annoying yeah it was annoying for us yeah okay anyway anyways okay i'm gonna go number one i'm never gonna accept that sock fact well i'll be sending you the article from psychology daily from socks.com from buy these socks to orgasm.com okay my good week is uh our
Starting point is 00:03:20 lord and savior hoda posted my quote on instagram what yep hoda hoda cobb yeah posted copy oh copy copy copy posted jack vanek quote no with my name in it no you're so famous did you get more followers didn't tag me so no i didn't get what quote uh very long it's you're the books you read the films you watch it's like this long quote i wrote when i was emo when i was younger i had it in the back of a jacket i think oh did you what's crazy to me is that i was like what's the title to our book and jack's like i don't know and i'm like but you can birth this 15 sentence quote for hoda the title for a book is just never gonna happen okay my bad happened it's too late there they're still asking us what okay anyways my bad week i was on the plane the other day i get up to
Starting point is 00:04:08 go to the bathroom and i'm walking down the aisle and i look at my left and there's this girl that is eating a full bowl of ramen ramen is a weird choice for a for a plane did she get it from a restaurant at the it was in i would have to it would no i don't it's a liquid that's true but it was in a plastic seemed like a not throwaway plastic bowl she brought her own b-y-o-r b-y-o-r ramen but you can't she added the hot water at the airport maybe i don't know but then Anyways, I go to the bathroom, I come back, the ramen can spill all over her plane or her seat, hit turbulence while we're in the bathroom, walked back out a total mess all over her lap, but that's why you don't eat ramen on the plane.
Starting point is 00:04:52 I'm sorry. What do you expect? That's a terrible plane food. That is, you just, there's no, no soups, please. Just as a reminder, never accept the coffee or tea from an airplane. Yeah. I just read that whole article. My girlfriend told me like 10 years ago, she's a flight attendant.
Starting point is 00:05:05 It said that sometimes they accidentally put the bleach that's supposed to go in the toilet one in the water one and they have to clean it out. And then you're like basically drinking chemicals. No, it's not the chemicals. It's the poo. Yeah. That's why they say not to. Because they use the airplane water, right?
Starting point is 00:05:20 But if you're, they can probably get away with it. Poo is everywhere. They probably can get away with it because if you boil water enough, it's supposed to kill the bacteria. It's true. But I, if I'm desperate, I'll still drink it. We're all showering in poo water. I got on a JetBlue flight actually a couple days ago.
Starting point is 00:05:35 Terrible. in flight by the way um and the flight attendant the pilot was getting off like he had obviously they'd all flown there together and they they were loading us on and he's like do you guys need anything from the airport and she both flight attendants asked for a hot cup of water oh and i was like they won't even drink they won't even drink they know so bad anyway maybe i should talk about my bad flight yeah bad week bad week i am very loyal to delta because i'm from atlanta And I just think that their planes are newer. I think that it's just better.
Starting point is 00:06:09 But then I was flying to New York and I was like, oh, I'm going to do JetBlue. And also JetBlue now flies to Burbank. And Burbank is a much better airport than the shithole LAX. It's much smaller. And closer to you. I get on this plane and I'm in an exit row. I don't have an armrest. Like, you know how you book a window so that you can put your arm on the armrest and then lean against the window?
Starting point is 00:06:33 no armrest rude the tvs were like two inches and there was no wi-fi because you flew to burbank they put their shittiest they put the shittiest planes at burbank i knew they would do that because chris was like i should take it on burbank i was like no no that's where planes go to die they getcha the shittiest plane i've ever been on it was such a bummer like no wi-fi no no movies to order on such in the six hours i was trying to get in touch with you and i was like there's no way she's not on her phone yeah no you always wi-fi on a plane six hours you have to wi-fi on that flight no wi-fi and no movies it was sitting there you just had to think about yourself no chargers for your phone that i was on a plane like that the other day what is this the dark ages
Starting point is 00:07:12 yeah i'm sorry i was fully planning on having power that airplane belongs in a graveyard trash it try to die in burbank delta forever okay here's my good week i am obsessed with a tv show i don't even know if my blood is has felt this titillated in some time it is a titillating show it's called rock the block on hgtv what do you do it is like a punk rock no it's four of their design stars yeah you know leanne ford is like yeah sure she's like my special special like god like figure leanne this girl mina that does good bones that show oh good bones yeah and then there's the girl from Chicago. Oh, that does Restores the Old Houses?
Starting point is 00:07:59 Yes. With the beautiful hair? Yes, beautiful hair. And then there's a girl named Jasmine who does another show. And they all compete. They're given the same exact spec house on the same street.
Starting point is 00:08:12 Four houses. And each week, they compete. For room to room. For room to room. And it is... I love that. So good. I love that.
Starting point is 00:08:22 Guys, you're home for the holidays. Get that shit on demand. Rock the block, bitches. You're welcome. Rock the fucking block. Can we get Leanne Ford on our podcast? I'll make a note right now. She's a dream.
Starting point is 00:08:33 Leanne Ford. The problem is that she's just so much cooler. Yeah. You know? She's got vibes. Her cool factor is just so good. She's like you to me. Yeah, totally.
Starting point is 00:08:43 That's how I felt when I was watching it. Yeah. You're like, I'm definitely the Leanne of this group. Okay, when we come back, it's time to get sexual. Now back to the Lady Gang. All right, so today's episode is a little bit different than anything we've ever done at The Lady Gang before. For the first time ever, our guest is going to be anonymous.
Starting point is 00:09:05 Our guest today is a dominatrix. She's been trained by the top doms, that's like dom speak, in the world and is a member of the most illustrious house of domination in Los Angeles. She's taught classes at DomCom, didn't know that existed, and has been in numerous fetish publications and films. She has multiple celebrity and high-profile clients, and she does this all while living a totally normal and separate life to the outside world. Please welcome to the Lady Gang, our anonymous dominatrix.
Starting point is 00:09:32 Welcome. We are so excited. We've talked about this since we were doing the TV show. We're like, oh, we should have someone come and tell all the secrets. So we're so excited to have you. Thank you for being here. Hello, ladies. I didn't even know this existed until I watched season two of Pose.
Starting point is 00:09:46 Do you watch Pose? No. You've asked me 800 times. No, because it's so good. and you would love it anyway so on pose one of the girls who's like a model makes her side living from like being a dominatrix and then she puts a guy in a suit and he ends up like choking on his own barf and dying but i think that's like just the tv world that is a uh dramatized version of what goes on yeah okay so what exactly is a dominatrix um great question i'm probably gonna
Starting point is 00:10:16 use some words and language that is you might not understand so feel free to stop me if there's something that you need me to clarify okay a dominatrix is a bdsm practitioner that stands for bondage discipline sadism and masochism so people visit a dominatrix for a fetish experience typically there is no sex involved this is what surprises most people buster that is everybody thinks that yes that you're having sex with these clients and you're not at all no sex and no nudity i never get naked whoa so what's the difference between a dom and a sub so a dom also known as a top is a person who is in charge in control of the situation they're the leader and the sub the submissive or the bottom those words are all used interchangeably okay is the person who is uh having
Starting point is 00:11:10 the experience essentially done to them but like it's a so it's not a sex but it's a sexual experience right it's a power exchange are these subs getting off are they like climaxing to orgasm so great question that varies practitioner to practitioner okay it depends on the scene it depends on that person's fantasy what they want some people love the denial of it some people don't it varies personally i am typically one to withhold most of my sessions do not end in climax i have a question so you're part of the like one of the most the illustrious house of domination in los angeles like what is it like a real is it like a house like yeah can you explain this can i ring the doorbell it's considered like can i ring the doorbell it's considered
Starting point is 00:12:10 a dungeon right a quote-unquote dungeon is it an actual dungeon um do you go down the stairs you do not go down the stairs not underground it is a dungeon yeah um it is a beautifully appointed and decorated warehouse in downtown los angeles in a secret location okay that you cannot get to unless you have an appointment with someone who works there it is absolutely gorgeous maybe later i'll show you guys pictures of it okay how do people find you yeah um there's a number of ways there are websites that um people can advertise on i no longer run ads because i'm not i don't take new clients anymore oh you have too many clients i just i don't take new clients because my my books have actually been closed for about a year and a half um damn but you can run
Starting point is 00:12:56 ads, um, on certain websites, social media up until recently actually was a huge, um, business platform for me and my Instagram after having it for five years and having 12,000 followers got deleted by Instagram because they said that it was inappropriate when in reality I had no pictures that were even suggestive, suggestive of nudity. And is this, this is the dumbest question ever. is this legal not a dumb question because it's actually a legal gray area no it's not illegal um but it's one of those things that kind of rides the line of is this um is it an exchange for of sex for money which it's not but a lot of people think that it is and it's kind of in a gray area so it's a tricky question right because they're not getting sex but they are it's a sexual
Starting point is 00:13:52 but that's that's it's subjectively sexual i think right exactly depending on the person and the act and the thing that's why it's like cops can zing you for it right but um typically they don't go after doms okay so a celebrity comes in does like let me stop you right there yeah celebrities don't just come in okay they only come to me by referral okay so you it's not like It's like Brad Pitt, George Clooney, everybody's lining up to get into the dungeon. Well, okay. Well, here's my question. A lot of times when you go to celebrities' houses, they make you sign an NDA at like
Starting point is 00:14:29 the gate before you even get to their house. So I assume when they make an appointment with you that there's some sort of non-disclosure happening. We both sign one with each other. Oh. Mutual NDAs. Does every client sign an NDA? There's an agreement.
Starting point is 00:14:46 it's an like a it's almost like a waiver oh how much like can you say like how much money can you make doing this it's obviously you can ballpark like yeah ballpark so like how do you somebody that's starting off how much do you think they'd make and then the the like number one dom how much would they make and where's the you can easily make your entire living six figures plus doing this easily is it a per session type of feet like you go get a massage typically it's per session and then on top of that you can do other media so selling videos photos i make a ton of money just selling photos of my feet this is why we found you yes should we start selling feet photos um not unless you're prepared to deal with the type of people who want to buy your feet
Starting point is 00:15:41 photos and and is that an interesting type do you think typically actually they're i maybe i'm just really lucky but i've dealt with some of the loveliest clients just great guys who like the way my feet look and i'm happy to make send you a custom set of photos for a hundred dollars for six pictures wow okay ever fallen in love with a client i plead the fifth amazing um have your clients ever bought you gifts tons of gifts it's one of the big perks yeah one of the biggest perks is that um there's a thing called a tribute and a way to get a attention is to tribute so a tribute is a gift of cash or of off your amazon wish list so i have an amazon wish list and if a client sends me an email or and i don't reply or wants to get my
Starting point is 00:16:40 attention for a session like my books are closed so if you want to get my attention you really have to what's the best gift um i have a client who lives in italy he comes to see me flies in from italy to see me he has a high heel fetish so every before every session he sends me a brand pair of italian shoes that is tight um okay do you wear one of those latex outfits oh hundreds of them like okay because are they the most uncomfortable yeah is your sweat real talk they're gross they probably smell but i went on glee or the cat one right did you sweat into your shoes i sweat to the point where it was shooting out of my wrist like at the end of the sleeves every time i moved is that why the latex outfits are considered sexual because they're like you
Starting point is 00:17:29 know your body's all wet in there or is it just the way it looks it's the way it looks it's the way it feels it's knowing that there's nothing in between you and another person except for rubber i mean it's turned on right now if you guys want to hear kind of a story that might freak you out as if you're a vanilla but actually it's kind of hilarious i did a session once in a latex catsuit and i had um my client tied to a table and i dripped my sweat into his eye on purpose no way that sounds like an eye infection oh no he loved it oh my god what is the weirdest thing that somebody has requested from you that's a pretty weird he didn't request do people get to request or do you just do whatever they can absolutely make requests so before somebody books
Starting point is 00:18:18 a session. They fill out an application on my website. They talk about what they want. They've obviously reviewed what I want. And then we have a negotiation before it starts, which talks about where, what do you like? What do I like? Where do we meet in the middle? What's a hard no for you? You know, what are your limits? That's always the first and foremost thing is everything is consensual. So they're allowed to make requests, but I'm also allowed to not grant them because i'm allowed to have limits too the weirdest thing that i've ever had oh man like the weirdest kink somebody's had pooping on you that's a hard limit for me yeah no poop it has been requested but that is absolutely a no um this is gonna sound really
Starting point is 00:19:02 simple but i had a guy who had a knee fetish and he wanted to come and rub lotion on my knees for an hour and that's all he wanted to do but my knees are so ticklish i could never do that a knee fetish and so i said of course you want to rub lotion on my knees for an hour they're kind of ashy come on over no way yeah guys are so weird do all these appointments happen at the dungeon yeah i um i've done what's called out calls in the past meaning i'll go typically to a hotel um i don't do them anymore i just it's too much work sounds like it could be sketchy um yeah okay so you how do you come up in this like how do you get discovered and then trained and then like how do you get your first session are you at a mall and then someone's like oh my god
Starting point is 00:19:52 it's you you're a stop queen um so how do you come up in this i started because i took a class with um i'm gonna leave names out just for the sake of everybody but one a very very well known dominatrix and i had met her in my real life job just kind of cross paths and we chatted a little about what she did and what i did and she was like you should come to my class it's like a like a women's empowerment class and i thought maybe this sounds kind of fun and i could use a little boost and so i took her class and i realized like oh i'm actually so good at this this is a thing that i've been designed for my entire life and so i thought well i mean what if i could make a little extra money on the side i guess i'll put up an ad and right see what i can do and so you
Starting point is 00:20:52 know it's a very small community so once you get connected you um you know i had found a met a friend who would let me use her space this was before i was at the house though now and you know it just kind of snowballs from there. Social media is a big, um, yeah. Conduit for growing your business. Is there an archetype of a certain client that wants this type of experience? Like in billions, you know how he's like a high powered whatever, and he wants that exchange of power. Well, it has to be somebody that has money cause it's not cheap. So you would think that it's always these super high powered people with tons of money, which I'd say that's a third of my really i would say it's all different kinds of people i had a client who was an uber driver
Starting point is 00:21:39 who would save up his money he could only see me twice a year but he would save up to see me and i had people from all different walks of life i had guys who invented apps i had guys who are distributors i had a guy who was an alcohol distributor who always brought me bottles of champagne every time uh academy award winners uh high ranking um government officials in the city of los angeles that's what i believe and now if if a guy comes and he's married since it's not sex it's not really cheating um his relationship and disclosure to his wife is none of my business we're doing a business transaction if he feels comfortable telling her cool if he doesn't cool it's none of my business i typically don't even ask and or no
Starting point is 00:22:33 sometimes they want to share that information right what do you think of 50 shades of gray that movie really hurt us it did it made bdsm accessible in a way that i think was great because it made people want to explore but also so much of that was just an abusive relationship that is so true there was that meme where it was like if christian gray i don't remember how to i don't remember what it was something if he was poor he would just be an abusive boyfriend yeah he was that whole it's true it's true or like not as hot as he was he would be like right just be a creep again um do you have a safe word is it like monkey banana mango i'm gonna i'm gonna bust another myth here and this is gonna make everyone really
Starting point is 00:23:24 disappointed but there actually is a universal safe word in the community what is it red red red is like a universal safe word for almost everybody uses that because they'll use like yellow and red as like assessing if your client i also use mercy is the one that i'll use a lot mercy means like you need to back off but i don't want to stop oh yeah so like if it's too much you can say like mercy and i'll back off a little bit but red means like session over we're done everybody drink some water let's talk it out and you have for a debrief um okay now if you're married to kelty and you're just having some regular old sex like is that so boring now if i was married to you okay well no so like can you like now that you're in this world can you go
Starting point is 00:24:15 back and like just have like normal everyday married person sex civilian sex is a great way to say it um or did you even ever have civilian sex i did for a long time huh um i've always been a little kinky yeah i was thought that i was more of a sub when i was younger and then there's this thing kind of once you switch it's hard to switch back um when i first started doing this professionally i had a lot of trouble dating and i'm sure it was a it was uh a disaster yeah um but now my uh partner is very understanding of all of it and there is an element to kink that runs threaded through our entire relationship so um what would advice would you give to someone who is listening and they're like wait this could be good for me um don't be scared to do your
Starting point is 00:25:14 research okay and also don't be scared by what you find because there's varying degrees of everything that you could be interested in and talk to your partner about it and do the research together and don't spring it on them because that scares people and just take it slow dip your toe in one one one foot are the rooms red one of them is okay and then do you have like i'm just thinking of that rihanna song chains and whips excite me oh nana come on so do you have handcuffs and chains like what props do you have like paddles literally hundreds of implements in the engine everything from um your classic bullwhip four foot six foot twelve foot oh vloggers in varying sizes paddles of wood of acrylic of steel we have one that's made out of the bottom of a
Starting point is 00:26:16 shoe we have one that's an from a boat it's an oar we have a classic fraternity paddle we have canes of every material so bamboo acrylic plastic metal uh rattan oh i love rattan yeah like a chair like a nice but i'm gonna beat you with it until you cry like a broom like a broom is there an on-site like medical professional in case things get too like is there there's injuries i imagine no there's no injuries they're probably i'm sure something is gonna get hit with a cane that's made of steel you think everyone's gonna walk away bruise free no they're bruised but they're not like i'm sure you've there's somebody has definitely gotten hurt doing this at some point they pour like pour like hot wax to do the wax oh i love wax so we are all um everyone who
Starting point is 00:27:11 works at the house that i work at is actually first aid certified oh that's a requirement of the owner wow but not everyone is like that i have a question do you have ball gags right do you reuse them we sanitize everything we use medical grade sanitizer on every surface and every implement are there std checks so no because there's no sex and this is the thing that actually kind of makes it a gray area is we put condoms on the client to protect them and us that's where it becomes a legal gray area there you go that's smart though because like you can't keeping it clean and you can't stop somebody from not from having an orgasm right i mean if they're gonna accidents happen i'm sure and then you don't want all their sploogey everywhere
Starting point is 00:28:04 try to act like a little bit like nice around our guests um a little fancy sorry about jack she's trashy um i have a question are they always naked when you're performing on them um so when i start a session with someone um i invite them into the room and then i say please undress to the level of your comfort okay it's like a massage some people it's everything some people leave their underwear on it it varies the sensory impact is better if you have less clothes on have you ever turned down a client yes because they're too poor too ugly too ugly i typically actually don't know what they look like until they show up has somebody ever showed up and you're like you were so hot yeah like unexpectedly hot yeah
Starting point is 00:28:55 Has someone shown up and you're like, oh, my God, I just watched your movie last night? Yeah. Okay. What lessons have you learned in the dungeon that you take out to real life? So I think the biggest lesson that I learned is whatever you look like and whatever you're insecure about, there is someone out there fantasizing about that exact thing who thinks that you are the hottest thing on the planet i love that whatever it is that you're like oh man i'm weird knees there's a dude out there who wants to rub lotion on your knees for an hour he's out there it is true we're
Starting point is 00:29:41 all like tailor-made for someone else right yeah someone like loves a big horse face right or my giant feet i have huge feet size 10 but there's someone out there who wants my size 10 feet that is so true oh i love this i'm getting a bunion on my foot somebody's gonna love that oh yeah again with the trash um okay last thing before we have you fix our girls lives um what is one thing you want people to know about what you do and like the stigma around it oh there's so much stigma about it being this scary weird freaky thing when in reality we all have these quirky urges deep down inside of us people are just so scared there's so much shame around it and i think the biggest thing that when you're in the bdsm community and and around all of these people is
Starting point is 00:30:33 there's no shame it's a completely judgment-free zone everyone's allowed to be their truest weirdest self and if we could all be five percent less judgmental of other people the world would be a much better place and on that note well said when we come back we're gonna red your life no the other one no we're gonna green green we're gonna green right right red stop right right okay we're gonna read your life you're listening to the lady gang okay we're back so we have girls writing in questions and we try to give them the best advice that we can all right question one we pick these questions for you great question one is from is pegging for me so i've been friends with my best friend since high school he and i are each other's quote one who got away we never
Starting point is 00:31:25 really got our we've never really gotten our shit together but we did take each other's virginity and have a marriage pact yet we've been in and out of each other's lives for over 16 years I am so to say at least absolutely in love with them I've recently gotten gotten out of a six year relationship and guess who popped back up the sweet old sweetheart well we got a little tipsy and we were texting when he stated I know you've been having issues in your relationship and I like to be pegged it's clear you want me inside of you but maybe we can work something out that's mutually beneficial I am shook I guess my question is do I go for it even if I feel like I'm being a it used and i'm in love with this guy or do i tell him that i'm not a piece of meat what's pegging
Starting point is 00:32:06 it's where the girl wears a strap on and then has sex with the guy in the butt yeah how did i not know that existed i don't know not know that i mean i knew it i knew the strap on existed we're really revealing how truly vanilla is right now in this moment rude okay have you ever pegged anyone no wait do clients ask you to stick things in their hineys constantly really yeah all the time i have a huge request i have a disgusting question i must not be the only one thinking this but does any like i know does it get messy so experienced clients who who know the process clean themselves out beforehand they take an enema yeah yeah i'm aware of what they do i just wanted to clarify oh i don't know if they just wash their bowl no it's an it's an
Starting point is 00:32:57 animal yeah yeah okay got it okay um what do you think this girl should do pegging oh does she peg no not in this situation no that is way too messy and complicated if you've never done pegging before please don't start there please don't start there don't peg with emotions involved no peg a random guy you took home from the bar and just practice i couldn't have said it better don't start with a strap on start with a butt plug and work your way up because that hole is not prepared i mean but just not amen he seems like he might be prepared he seems prepared he's not though and that's more important that's true okay i just learn something every day here on the lady gang pegging okay second question comes from young and
Starting point is 00:33:44 confused i'm 23 and my boyfriend is 30 we've been together for five years and have lived together for two up until about six months ago my boyfriend and i are on the same page about marriage and actively talk about what our wedding would look like but recently something changed and now my boyfriend doesn't want to be married at all he thinks it's a waste of money he says it just makes for a more expensive breakup my heart is set on marriage and i'm not looking to get married tomorrow it could be five years from now i love my boyfriend but i'm afraid if he doesn't at least open his mind again to marriage then this might be a deal breaker you're not on the same path oh dump him dump him there's a big difference in my opinion between a guy that's like i want to get
Starting point is 00:34:24 married i'm moving slower than maybe the plan you had in your mind is and a guy that's like i don't believe in marriage those are not the same man you will end up married to one of them you will not end up married to the other one well also if like if they've been more expensive breakup is if that's not the biggest red flag i've ever heard you're 23 you got your whole 20s to date douchebags just go date a couple more yeah date if you get married in your 30s i know you don't need to get married anytime soon girlfriend give yourself like 10 years and also i feel like all of my girlfriends who ended up with that guy that quote didn't really want to get married and didn't really want to have kids they're kind of on a lone journey even though they're technically
Starting point is 00:35:09 married to this man. They are pretty much raising the children alone and they can't even ask for help because then the man says, this is what you wanted. So it's a very lonely ride. If you're trying to talk somebody into, they're never going to get there. You should never have to talk somebody into it. And I remember there was a point at my, in my last relationship when things started going downhill where I remember thinking, well, I guess I'm in this alone. Yeah. And I'm sure that's how so many of these women feel because it's like you shouldn't have to make anybody try to marry you they gotta want it more they gotta want to marry you more yep uh last one i want to peg you not the right use okay
Starting point is 00:35:51 okay the last question comes from jane doe i've been dating my boyfriend for four years and i love him so much we don't really fight at all but the one thing we do argue about is that he really likes getting oral sex well i'm surprised the problem is i really hate giving it also surprise i'm just really freaked out about the taste of it and knowing what is causing that taste i also find myself gagging after just a few seconds of doing it any advice on how to make blowjobs not suck so much do it in the shower oh yeah yeah because then when they when they because then it's like you're eliminating the smelly ball odor that could be you know present present you don't have to swallow you don't have to swallow you just spit it out right there or
Starting point is 00:36:33 you even let him just do it finish it off himself yeah and so do you just get on your knees on the tile yeah i mean you're not like he's standing yeah okay he lays down like yeah i mean yeah you have to be on your knees but like it's not that bad okay and also i feel like if you're in the shower they're already kind of hurried a little bit so they'll probably like get off faster yeah It's not going to be, like, a nice, long experience. A leisurely blowjob. Yeah. But, like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:01 Lather them up in some really good-smelling soap that hopefully will be a distraction from the ball odor. You know what? Back a toe bench is great advice. That's some smartness. That's why I like shower sex, too. Because then it's like, you have sex in the shower, you're cleaning yourself off. You're clean.
Starting point is 00:37:14 Yeah. It's the best. You don't have to feel gross after. You don't have to go get in the shower because you're already there. Yeah. I'm so sensitive to smell that, like, even in New York when I was dating, and I would, like not necessarily be having sex with these guys but i was like hooking up and getting frisky my roommate my best friend peggy would laugh because she'd be sleeping she was like in medical
Starting point is 00:37:32 school at the time and i was a tramp running around the city she would hear the shower go on at like 3 a.m and she would know that i was like hooking up with a guy because i would always be like let's take a shower that was your move yeah because i'm like i don't know what's lurking below the surface yeah no and i don't in new york exactly it's like 90 degrees we're on subways we're trying yeah everybody's feet smell a ball so that's my jam with the shower that is that is smart very clever what if i what if one of your clients is stinky have you ever done i'll make them go take a shower we have a shower there oh i've done it before basically a becca yeah i've done it but i don't need to show you need to go you're like i can't get out of this latex suit
Starting point is 00:38:14 i will tell you something interesting what's the secret to getting out stress sweat and other kinds of sweat smell different yep what smells worse stress sweat so when somebody comes to a session and they're nervous and they start sweating because they're nervous it's stress sweat and it smells really bad oh it's different than like workout sweat or just like bo oh so true yeah damn i got stress sweat it's bad okay well on that note have you ever had to put a cigarette out on someone's penis uh i've done it on someone's tongue oh someone put cigarettes out on my bike seat same thing two people i have my bike seat here at work and like then two different one time i noticed i was like oh it must be one of those things where the sun hit someone's glasses the
Starting point is 00:39:00 wrong way and burnt a little hole and now it's a thing they're doing that doesn't just accidentally happen number one that's so hard to do to start a fire with glasses no when you were a kid you had like the little glass that takes so you have to have it there for like 20 minutes In the same spot. So you think it's a cigarette? That's a dump. All right. Well, Lady Game dominatrix, it's red time.
Starting point is 00:39:24 Time to stop. Oh, my God. Thank you for being here. I learned so much. Come back anytime with all the stories. And here's to pegging and flagging. And we will. You still don't really know what pegging is.
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