LadyGang - Harry Jowsey

Episode Date: August 11, 2026

Our boy Harry Jowsey is getting married — or trying to. Ahead of his Netflix show Let's Marry Harry (Aug 5), the Too Hot to Handle star hands his love life to the people who know him best, including his ex. He opens up about grief after losing his dad, the courage to be disliked on camera, and why he doesn't trust his own judgment. Plus a Woman Manifest List and a brutal "Should You Date Him?" round. See you next Tuesday.We have deals for YOU!Boll & Branch: Sleep cooler this summer! Get 15% off your first order plus free shipping at bollandbranch.com/ladygang with code LADYGANGNutrafol: Get $10 off your first month’s subscription and free shipping at Nutrafol.com and use code LGPOD.Talkiatry: Head to Talkiatry.com/lady to complete the short assessment and get matched with an in‐network psychiatrist.Clean Simple Eats: Shop the best tasting protein powders at CleanSimpleEats.com Progressive: Visit Progressive.com and see if you can enjoy a little extra cash back.Amazon Music: Get your music, podcasts, and audiobooks ALL IN ONE APP! Subscribe to Amazon Music today!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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like he's he's so hot, but he is so nerdy. And this is a problem for Jack and I like. I mean, obviously, we're not marrying Harry. He's marrying someone else on his next show. But bummer. These are the types of guys that I historically had gotten in trouble with in the past. Me too. I feel it. I felt my younger, my, my younger self being like, Ooh, boy. Ooh, doggy. Yeah. What is it? It's like, I think four or five of my exes had so many had that same thing where it's like, you're a good guy, but you're a boy, but you're not a boy anymore. and you have a real sweet soul yeah but the problem is with our exes we probably or at least i did fell for them when they were still in the boy phase but because they're such a nice person

and like have a good heart it tricks you not to say that he would trick somebody but like it you fall in love with this version of them it's like falling in love with the potential right but now he's in love with this 30 plus something like fully formed cognitive boy yeah he's not even there yet he's pretending he'll get there yeah yeah but now Harry is there like he is the man it's like and then you see the boy go on to like marry somebody you're like why couldn't it have been me yeah it's like because their frontal lobe was not developed yet and then now it is now he's a fully formed person that's gotten over the boy phase and now he's like such a freaking catch and that's why us in our 40s me almost my 40s is like wow that is the guy that

you end up marrying. Yeah. Like it could have worked out for us if we just hung on long enough. Just kidding. We'll tell ourselves. Okay. Let's do good week, bad week. Mine is so embarrassing. Here we go. Okay. It's time for good week. Yes, it is. Bad week. Oh, no. So my bad week is that I recently was on the Today Show being sad and like just sads on the Today Show. And, you know, me I'm still like old school press girl where I send a thank you or bring a thank you and like remember I made us when we went on Hoda and Jenna we brought like a four foot wine glass and they're like yeah we're good we don't have room for this right in the trash thing yeah totally but I always do bring a gift so I brought um I brought uh I said Hoda Jenna and Chanel like my book a Starbucks

card some like really cute like press on nails that had like the same vibe as the book like I don't know just dumb stuff and afterwards I worked with this producer named Allison and Allison was like so kind to me she was like you know listen she probably produces six things a day but she just made me feel really important and special and um I was really blown away by her and so I wanted to send a thank you gift to her post the show and I have like my listen this is lady gang stamps.com baby I got my stamps.com here so I ship all my stuff from the house and do my mailing labels. And so what had happened was I had made her a little gift with some face stuff and like early morning stuff because she's on the Today Show. So and a card and a handwritten note and

I had mailed it. And then I also mailed my Poshmark that I sold this week, which was an L.A. Tahari navy blazer that was chic as AF and honestly shouldn't have sold it. Like, I don't know what I'm doing on Poshmark. I'm just sitting such a deep clean in my house. Yeah. And I kept getting this notification from Poshmark, which is very good. They're like, please mail your blazer. Please. Why are you not shipping? Shipping? It's going to get canceled if you don't ship it. And I was like, I shipped this a week ago. Like it's been shipped. OK, I marked ship on the app. I was like, no, I don't know why. You know, sometimes they don't scan it properly at the mail or whatever. And I was so crazy. And so then I get a text from Alison and she's like,

Hey girl, um, thanks so much for the thank you gift. Uh, you really didn't need to do that. That's so sweet. Also, is this blazer for me? I accidentally, this is you guys I'm on the station. I'm like, I'm a three-time Emmy award-winning. I'll take that as a new book, New York Times bestseller and I had to say to the producer oh man I think that's my posh mark just trying to make a few extra bucks how embarrassing was that I was like uh so then she's like well I was like no you can I don't know what I said I was like well like I don't have an answer like am I just gonna say like keep the blazer it is cute she does work on like she probably wear it and then she was like just send me the address and I'll forward it along and I was

like oh my god so like literally here I am screenshotting the in stamps.com thing and like sent it to her and she was like it's in the mail and I was like that's a girl's girl you know yeah I mean listen it could have been worse you could be like returning like some sex toy or something like that I mean you know that's like that was like so good that she thought it could have possibly been for her you know you could have done way worse I guess I mean I just think it's like why is Poshmark like a dirty little secret I know it's not like I think it's great and I love buying things off Poshmark and I yeah anyway um okay so I have a sorry I have a second good week bad week can I just go for it? Yeah. All right. So my good week is I found a Grammys dress and the Grammys

is in six months and I found it on Instagram and I think I'm getting scammed, but if I get the dress, it's going to, can I show it to you? It's going to be amazing. How's it on Instagram? Okay. So it's like a designer from the middle of nowhere. I don't even know. And I'm doing a, hold on. Okay. Hold on. Oh, this is the payment link. Okay. So it's like clothing brand worldwide shipping and it's followed by my stylist, Yara Miller, like a lot of people. Okay. And okay. So this, okay. So it's like all fringy and sequindy. Yeah. It's like a body suit, but it's like see-through and it's got like a bum out kind of situation. Like, I don't know what's that going to look like anyway. So I was like, oh, I would love to borrow this for the Grammys. And they

were like, we don't lend. And I was like, okay. And they're like, it's to buy. And I was like, okay, well, how much? And I thought they're going to say like $10,000 or whatever. And they're like, it's $2,000, which is so much money. But I just want to put this in parentheses that normally for award shows by the time I borrow a dress from Australia or the UK or wherever it comes from I have to pay at least $700 to have it shipped and then I have to pay another at least five or six hundred dollars to have it tailored perfectly and like then send it back like it ends up being and then like if I like rented what I rented from um the showroom here in LA for the I was $1,600 to rent a dress, like a designer dress. So I do have a budget for these things

that is like comes for me. So I was like, okay, I'm just going to buy it. So I was like, okay, I'll buy it. And then he's like, can you send the measurements? I was like, oh, it doesn't exist. He's like, no, we're going to make it from scratch for you. And I was like, okay, how long will it take? And he's like two months. And I was like, okay. And they sent me this like fudgy link and I Apple paid it. And I was like, okay. And he's like, send me the confirmation once you order. I'm like, okay. So I sent the confirmation. He goes, thanks, dear. And he goes, is this the one you want? Exactly the same as this? And I was like, what the, like, you don't know on the order number? And he goes, dear, dress exactly the same, right? And I was like, oh my God, like,

what is happening? Are we going to be okay? I don't know. You're so getting scammed. You're going to get like a Timu version of that dress. Am I going to get a Timu? I am, right? Yes. Yes. Right. But it doesn't. Have you seen. What are their pictures look like. Do they look real. Gorgeous. Like this is the video of a woman wearing the dress. OK. There's a video. I mean I could make a video but I mean it's real. I wouldn't put that purse with the dress. Looks a little. It does. oh no literally you're literally like a boomer falling falling for some i am i know but they have like real i mean they really this might be ai oh my god it's all ai isn't it no so when are you supposed to get it like two months i here's my thought my thought was you're right this is all AI okay my thought was even if the dress is horrible I can tailor it like the fabric will be worth the money and I can tailor it within an instant of its life and make

it amazing right if it's what the fabric is in that video if it's not some janky ass version of it anyway I thought this would be fun story to tell you guys and you can follow along so I'll let you guys know. I can't wait. I can't wait for updates. I can't, I can't wait. And I am doing this, you know, I like to at least have one crisis happening in my life at all times. You do thrive on being in crisis mode. I also bought a dress for the Emmys and it's short. And now I'm like, can I wear a short dress? I think I can. I don't know. Can you? I don't know. Is it formal? It's like formal adjacent. It's Givenchy. I saw it on, honestly, it's on Poshmark. I bought it on Poshmark. Is it even Givenchy? I don't know. Probably not. Probably not. Okay. Anyway,

what's your good week, bad week? I'm a messy ass human with bad bangs. Okay. So my bad week, it's a little bit delayed, but I went to Vegas a couple of weeks ago and I was like, okay, I haven't been to Vegas, not for when we were young in a long time. And because of that, I haven't had to wear like Vegas-y type clothes. But like when you go to Vegas, you want to wear like a Vegas-y type outfit. You want to like dress up and like do the whole thing. So I was buying all these outfits to try on that, oh my God, what am I doing to myself? Tight outfits, high-waisted outfits, like things that I wore 10 years ago. And I literally had a straight up meltdown one because I was trying them on in the worst lighting in the entire world with no spray tan after I had

eaten a massive Thai dinner. And I'm, but I like did one of those things where you start to spiral. And then, so I started trying on more clothes and more clothes and more clothes and more bathing suits. I'm like, yeah, you're like, let me try this on from five years ago. And you're like, it doesn't fit. I'm like, Oh, this is like tight in all the wrong places. So I was like literally spiraling. I'm like, I'm like, am I like, I think I talked about this the other, like a couple months ago where you, you have these like points in your life where you start noticing aging. And I'm like, this is the first time that I've, I thought that I was noticing my body aging. Like I've noticed it in my face, but my body. And I was like, I felt, I haven't felt that bad about myself in a long

time. Cause every, every new thing I was putting on, I was noticing, I'm like, I never look at myself in the mirror that much because I know I had spiral and I was just like, it was like old me coming out really did not feel good. So I finally hit a point where I'm like, okay, what are you comfortable in? And I pulled some shit out of my clothes that I've worn recently. I got a new pair of camo jorts inspired by you. And I'm like, I'm just going to make you feel great. I know. It's everything I want to show. An ankle and a beautiful pet. You got your toe ring. See, I don't like showing my ankle. Like that's actually the part of my leg I don't like showing the most. But for some reason, I was like, throw on a little heel with a jort and a tight little

tank top. And I felt so that's what I ended up wearing the first night we were in Vegas. And I was like, I've never felt more powerful in my life. And I kind of had a shift where it was like, okay, you need to just start wearing clothes that are actually comfortable for you. It was like the kind of last turn that I've had in my wardrobe where it's like, you don't need a little body con dress. You don't need a short dress. You don't need anything that you used to wear, like just wear the clothes you feel comfortable in. And I've like never felt sexier in my life. So that's my little spiral turned into success story because it's hard. I'm like, I need to throw out all these old clothes.

They've been sitting in my drawers just being like, maybe I'll wear them one day. Next like pool day club thing I go to. I'm like, I'm not going to any of those anymore. I'm trying to have a kid soon. Like, let's just purge. Speaking of like you purging, I'm like, I got to throw some more shit in my Poshmark.

Yeah, you got a Poshmark and get rid of it. And like, we're just, we are not doing or wearing things that make us uncomfortable anymore. Like we're just not doing it. Like, I'm just, we are not, you know, I think, I think back to when I was on ET and I used to wear the add to cup size bra every day. And like, you know, I, I remember people like on Instagram would be like the men, the gross men would be like, I'm confused by your breasts. They're so big on TV. And then in real life, there are not there. And I was like, ah, like, you know, but I just felt like I had to do that. Like I had to distort myself. and yeah listen do we want a bad haircut no do we want to I I will say I'm gonna say something that you know this is not very Harry Jowsey of us but I recently started okay so I went to the doctor and they were like you got to be lifting heavy weights you're losing bone because I'm old

and I was like okay um and and he basically scared me he goes do you want to be one of those old crotchety women that's like hunched over and looks fragile and I was like no and he's like you're gonna be like he's like you need you need to build your bone and build your muscles like okay so it's interesting I switched Pilates so I go I'm doing heavy weights and then also I usually go to reformer Pilates and there's one instructor Jack that her name is Jennifer and she's so inspiring the way she's first of all she's older and she's gorgeous and she looks strong and she's an older woman but she's like she just has this glow of like confidence and strength that like you don't see in LA especially because everyone in LA is just like be riddled with like what you're

just talking about and like just trying to be the like thinnest youngest part of themselves and I I love the way she talks about us in the class like in you know so many times you go to work out or you go to something and people are like oh my god you're gonna look so good in that bikini in Vegas or like you're gonna, oh my God. And she's like, let's work off that dinner that you just ate. Yeah. Like it's like weirdly toxic, but like you're not noticing it. The way I'm in class with her and she was like, she goes, I know this hurts girls, but you're going to be so strong. And she's like, your body is going to be able to move forever. Like the way she talks is so positive that I started only going to her class. And I'm just like, I truly think that we, I can feel this

between us. Like we're going through this era where we just don't, I don't have space to create anything in my life that is going to make me feel bad, feel unpowerful. Like, and so this is like, that's what I mean. It's like, I'm not going to a workout class where they're like, oh my God, you got to be so skinny. Like I'm not go, I'm going to Ibiza and everyone's wearing a mini dress and I'm wearing my jorts because I feel good in them. You know what I mean? I'm not like, I am I'm just not in a place anymore where I'm gonna try to status quo um like even this Emmy's dress like I really like my legs I I'm I I don't want to have to do a juice cleanse for three weeks before the Emmy's so that I can fit in some corseted size double zero dress like I just

don't want to and then I'm like the whole time worried about like what if I wore this balloon dress that's like big tent dress where just my legs were out and I can just like eat a breakfast burrito before I go work for 10 hours you know what I mean like I just I don't know I don't know if I have it in me to like do the body it's just like no I know and I so I had like my spiral and then I had like a meltdown and with the when I was talking to Jared about it I'm like I I'm trying so hard to be evolved past this to just have body acceptance in a way where it's like I'm trying to get pregnant soon and like my body's really gonna change so I need to be okay with my body changing and growing and expanding in different ways and not like trying to hold on to a younger version

of myself it's just like we're gonna age we're gonna get saggy we're gonna get wrinkly like that's okay like that's literally you're lucky to age it's a gift to age yeah um and so I was really disappointed in myself because I'm like I feel like I should be evolved past this and then like I shoot it out of my brain and I that whole weekend I actually had a lot of conversations with my friends about it, about how I do want to be this version of myself that is not so vain in this. Of course, we're always going to have insecurities, but like giving into the vanity and giving, like giving into this part of ourselves, that's impossible because it's always going to change. You know, our bodies are constantly going to change as we get older. So,

but it's, it's a constant struggle. I mean, the way that we were raised and with the billboards and the body shaming and everything. It's just like, it's an impossible hill to climb, but we'd be trying. We'd be trying. We out here trying and I'm proud of you. And I'm sorry that happened, but I am proud of you. And like jorts forever.

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with iGaming Ontario. Now back to the Lady Gang. Gang, gang, gang. Today's guest has turned falling in love on camera into an entire career. You may know him from Too Hot to Handle, Perfect Match,

and being the internet's favorite lovable menace. Since blowing up in 2020, he's built a massive following, launched his top podcast, and become a full-on lifestyle brand. But now he's getting married or trying to he has a new netflix show let's marry harry it drops august 5th and he's handed his

entire love life this is so crazy over to people who know him best including his ex-girlfriend please welcome our boy harry jowsey to the lady gang hello sir thank you so much thanks for having me um we're okay so jack and jack go ahead jack's review of the show okay so we got to watch the first episode. I am such like a dating show junkie. I love it all. And I have to say, this is probably one of the best shows I've seen in a long time. We were just talking about it before you got on. It's like bringing us back to The Bachelor when The Bachelor was good. Wow, what a compliment. That's crazy. Wow, you really enjoyed it? No, I loved it. I loved it. I think and you're so, I mean, you're so likable. You're so enigmatic. Like you're such a good lead. And I just loved

it i think it's gonna be amazing he's wearing a tank top right now he's got a usa looks like a racing jersey behind him someone has given him some hot swag no it's actually i bought it i bought it at the um at the paris olympics but it was the last jacket that my dad wore before he passed so i just got it framed because i felt weird about wearing it i'm like that's a bit that's so sweet okay see i was trying to make something like i was like oh look at this piece of merch. And he's like, actually, it's very, you know what, that, that honestly is the show in a nutshell. Like I, I remember, sorry, we were going to let you talk, but first we have to say our piece. Um, I remember when the show was first announced and I gotta be honest, Harry, I rolled

my eyes. I was like, Oh my God, this guy, he just really wants the 15 minutes of fame, like, and the title. And I was like, this is, uh, you know, what are we doing? What is happening? And And then I talked to Amanda Klutz. Um, so Amanda Klutz is one of Harry's best friends and she's on the show as like a mentor judge. And she was a rockette. Um, I was never a rockette with her cause she was perfect and she was in the middle and I was in a different cast. But anyway, we've known each other for years. And, um, I text her and I said, Hey, we're thinking about having Harry on the podcast. Like, is this guy for real? And I was like, is this just a gig for you and she goes no he's one of my best friends he is salt of the earth he really wants to get

married he really like this is so genuine and the show like he's like she's she just was like no he's like real reveal and then she was so funny she's like if he was older i would have snagged him for myself wow i was wondering about that so much actually yeah because i was wondering too i was like well if he's so great why don't you date him yeah that's a good that's a good question i think that um you know she's perfect me and uh amanda but we've always just been like kind of confided in each other with each other's relationships and stuff so it's always just been like the perfect friendship um but i love her more than anything and she was such an angel on this show like because obviously my ex it was quite heavy to have her there and then my other friend sunny

we don't really have that emotional relationship but me and amanda have really been through the trenches together so having her there was just so perfect i was so glad that she yeah that she said yes to it it's so nice that you were able to have your friends on because again it's like i was an avid bachelor watcher and it's like if you're the lead on one of these shows you're kind of just like cut off from society and it's like i'd really like to have like somebody to bounce ideas off of so like i think that that makes it so much better because they can see things that you don't see if you're maybe kind of like falling blind for somebody and not seeing a red flag pop up which happens a lot and to be honest I think no one really trusts me so it's

good to it was good to have my friends there because I was I don't know what was going on and then halfway through when they're like okay we're gonna go now and you have to make the decisions I was like oh well that's really stupid like why would you do that that's really scary so I was gonna say like for red flags obviously we've only seen the first episode and we saw two girls that you kind of like right away you're like this girl's here for fame this girl doesn't want a family like it was very and again you don't see this that much with leads where it's like you're pretty obvious the way that you feel about these girls like is there any other red flags for you that are like or total deal breakers that when you hear somebody say something you're like

absolutely not I don't care how hot you are I don't care how much like I'm attracted to you this is a no yeah i think it's someone who doesn't have like goals or like big dreams like for me that's kind of that's really deflating like just someone who's happy and it's good for some people but people that like sit at home and just want to just exist like that's cool for you but i want to be with someone that like i'm excited to be around and like to see them achieve their biggest dreams gets me so excited and i think like that's probably why this is like better than the bachelor's because i can people already assume the worst like you guys saw the announcement you're like oh no way this guy's the idiot so people already assume the worst so i can kind of just just do

what i want which is good and just be like over honest and i think that's why this is um i'm really excited about i'm really excited for people to see it but i'm also super nervous it's really scary you're gonna do great you're like you're so fucking likable you really are like you just obviously i think as long as you are yourself i feel like people will fall in love with you yeah and you know what else harry sorry the kelty review you know i'm the bitch of the group. I'm, but I mean this with love. I loved how, like in the first episode, you were very honest, like, and you know, like you don't need everyone to like you. And I liked that about you on the first episode. Like I liked that you would sit down for an interview and I was like, this,

they have no chemistry. This is not, this girl's not for him. And I had already decided in my mind who was right for you. And, and then you would like walk away from it in your, in your like confessional or whatever you would be like, I just didn't feel it. And I was like, Oh, like the courage to be disliked is so powerful because I think so many times now especially since reality tv is so big when you put yourself out there you don't want to be the bad guy like a lot of these shows are waiting for the girls or the the cast implode like do you know jack like when you get to like episode 10 of the bachelor and then like the person's like oh my god like you know jill was such a bitch you're not seeing it and he's like I don't see it I like everyone I'm in love with all

of them like i really like that harry was to the chase he was like i don't feel it with this girl yeah i think also like some life yeah people are afraid to get canceled on these shows and stuff and i was like i you know i think i've been canceled enough and been liked and hated um so i was just like i'm just gonna be and also i kind of had to be over honest because there was a lot of people there with the right intentions and pure intentions and i'm like if i just if i don't clock this then it's gonna piss everyone off and then they're gonna hate me and like i don't want that I want to just like make sure everyone's here for the right reasons you guys have actually seen more than me so I don't know what's in the first episode I haven't seen any

watched it no I don't I was there but I don't know what are you going to watch it um I think so I'll be in New York when it comes out so I think I'm just going to sit in a hotel room and just like go through it all because it towards the end it gets very heavy like my dad like there's we go to New Zealand um for the first time in a year since it passed and it's first time seeing my family since he passed so I was like really navigating grief as well as like oh my god I'm about to marry someone um I don't want to waste anyone's time it was it was really like the hardest thing I've ever done and then also going off there's 50 cameras watching me like mentally processes so you guys will see it later on like I'm really struggled like it was really it was

really awesome well I think this is an interesting like just thing to to sort of switch gears here is that you know grief is and we talk about this all the time on the podcast we've had experts come on like grief and losing someone like that it changes your whole world and um it you probably couldn't have done this show I don't even know if it was was it in the works before he passed like i think that losing someone like this and what you've gone through probably like makes you more hungry to create a family right like because you're just i i don't know i can imagine that you're like let's get on with it like enough with the shit like let's make a life yeah i think it's in anyone's life when when they lose someone it really kind of puts you in a in a crossroads and

i was looking at my sisters with their families and like knowing that my dad had those relationships with their kids growing up and i was like like i haven't done any of that like i'm over here just being a sausage in a in la and not like caring about this stuff so it really made me kind of reroute my life and then this show like it started to progress um and i'm like maybe it's the universe you know the universe is telling me it's time to put my head in and i may as well just do it um and all these people like on the netflix side like it's just people that i hang out with on a daily basis, like real life friends, as well as Alex Cooper, and then my other friends that were on the show, like everyone, but some put their life on pause for me. So I was like, I should probably

take this pretty serious. So I have a question just about the show shows format and stuff. Obviously, it's like you, as far as we know, you're getting married at the end, like those are high stakes. The only higher stakes show that there is is married at first sight where they get married at first sight before even seeing the person so like was this how involved were you in like how the show was gonna go like did you propose this because you're really serious about it or is that did that just happen and you're like i guess that i'm gonna do this like what was the vibe honestly they were we were kind of figuring it out as we went along like i i thought of an idea of like oh yeah we should have an altar like i'm super happy to do that um and they were

like oh we'll just we'll see what happens as we go because i think because i was going through so much throughout the whole process they were just like we just want to let whatever happened happen and if like the goal is to get married at the end if it happens awesome if it doesn't no worries we'll figure it out like it was they were very hands off with how it was going on but obviously the intention is to get married at the end um and yeah oh my god we'll see okay all right harry we We many, many years ago, we wrote a book called Act Like a Lady. And in it, we had something very famous called the Man Manifest List, which I will show you. And the Man Manifest List is very important to the Lady Gang community. And we have made people manifest their partner. And actually, we made Jack do this. And then she met her husband. so I'm we decided we're gonna switch the gears today for you and we're gonna have a woman manifest list and we're going to quiz you on the things now we don't know word is out you may have

already found her but we're gonna just get the vibe of what you're looking for so that when we watch you every week on the show we can judge from the couch of like if they match the manifest will manifest list. Okay. Okay. So you are going to answer the, you're going to fill in the blank. Okay. Okay. When you say, when you think of her, she is, here's some examples for you. Trustworthy, reliable, empathetic. So Harry, your dream woman, she is. Independent, um, humorous. Is that a, was that a word that's a big word for me yeah good sense of humor yeah humorous and motivated like I just I love that I just love seeing a woman in her power and just being like wow this is so exciting it's the best I love that yeah so you because in that first episode you really were

digging the girl I don't remember her name but the girl that had like her own clothing line I think that like had her own business yeah yeah yeah no she we she was great like she was so exciting um and she was very like very motivating and it was really awesome to see that because look at the end of the day i know it's a tv show and i know that like um maybe some people going on just want to have followers and fame and and that's like that's all good because i know that's a big part of it um but the fact that she showed up and she's like no like i'm putting my business on pause i'm putting life on pause i'm here for this was really really incredible yeah i love that okay we'll manifest list number two her actions are here's some examples for you harry consistent

respectful thoughtful oh i think her actions are her actions are thoughtful i think that's a really good one i really love when she's consistent um yeah i think those would be the two like i'm The problem is with me, it is what I said on the show when I was casting it. I said, don't listen to anything I say. Just do what you feel is best. Because I don't trust my judgment. You're like, I'll pick the wrong person.

Wait, I have a question with the casting process. How, because I'm just, I'm so interested in how like involved you were with everything. Like what did you tell the casting producers and like how much could you tell them for like who you were looking for? Like physical stuff or like whatever? yeah literally this like what we're going like they they were doing like questions like this

and i was like guys i don't want to go what i don't want to do what i've always done because it's hasn't led me on the right path i want to trust that the people that love me because the head of casting netflix is one of my dearest friends like he's one of my best friends um and he's like i know exactly like everyone put so much love into it so i was just like as long as they're like independent and excited about life and have a good sense of humor and maybe thick skin because i know the comments can be mean that's kind of it like i don't really want to and like i didn't like even a lot of people were saying oh i cast them or saw saw the cast this before i had no idea they knew who i was because obviously it's the name of the show but i had no

idea any who was going to be there anything like that so i was when i walk in on the first day you guys obviously saw i was so nervous because i don't know what yeah i was freaking out i don't know what was going on i was gonna cry like when i say goodbye to georgia sunny and amanda i i started choking up and i was like i have to walk away from these guys because i'm gonna cry this is really scary i was thinking that when you had to do your speech like when you're standing there like talking to all the girls i'm like i would literally shit my pants it's like doing a speech at a wedding but like times a million and like did you have something written down or were you just like talking from your heart no no they they gave they're like oh you gotta go say hi to

everyone and then you're gonna do like say something like this and i was like okay cool And then I walked down there and I fully forgot what I was saying. And I was like, oh, I have to address everyone because this is kind of like the first like introduction to everyone. And I remember looking at the producer. I'm like, fuck, what do I say? What do I do? And I think I just kept walking in circles because I was like, I don't know what to do.

It's really scary. Don't do it. It's really terrifying. Well, they edited it very nice. It was cute. But you haven't watched the show, but there's so many of the girls. They're like, yeah, Harry was really nervous. Yeah.

I was shitting myself. yeah and they're like harry was really sweaty and red or like they're like he was really red and i was like you know what i like when a hot guy with a bad reputation gets nervous you know what i mean it shows your heart and i was like oh i like him instantly like it's really great okay jack hates this but we're going back to my list because i told your team we were doing this and she keeps asking questions that were not on the approved list oh sorry you can ask anything this This is a lady gang. This is a lady gang.

Okay, she makes me feel. Give me three words. Calm, stable, hot. Yeah, she makes me feel sexy. She makes me feel energized because that's a good one. I feel like you've been, we've all probably been in a relationship where you've been with someone that makes you just feel like a big kid and excited about anything.

And she makes me feel powerful. I feel like that's a good one. I love when I can tell my person everything that's going on and they're like this is awesome like you're gonna kill it like that's what gets me excited i love it that's a really good answer thanks you want someone that's like especially in like your hollywood world like i was like what what if they get married then we're gonna have like last night i swear to god i was laying in bed and i was like what are we gonna call the second show like we can't just this is the problem with the show is that it's gonna be great and then you're gonna

be happy and get married and then we're not gonna have a second season and what are jack and i gonna to do you know so then i was like i'll tell you the trick let's baby harry or like you know i was like house of perry great oh i hope you have that trademarked no i don't but um that's i might steal that but i so the the trick with the show it's actually called let's marry dot dot dot and so they're just going to change the name to someone else oh oh let's marry like cardi b adored no thank you we only want you harry you're the star we don't want i don't want to see anyone else do this it's only you I'm so sorry it rhymes for a reason okay you're right yeah maybe we'll find another Harry or maybe it'll have to be like Jerry Jerry or Barry Barry nobody wants to marry

Barry though like Barry we're good yeah okay I'm so sorry this is your last okay last question she never so like lies to me makes me worry disrespects me like for me when I was like rejiggering my life and meeting my husband, I was like, I don't want anyone that like, makes me like stay up all night worrying like where they are. Like, I want to feel like really like I can go to bed and I don't have to be searching, look at my phone every hour. So she never, these are your last, you're almost done. You're doing great. I feel like she never makes me feel insecure. I think that's a good one. because like no matter who you are like if you're with someone and they're always comparing you to

x or comparing you to something on instagram like you're always going to feel a little bit tight about that and i've found that in la especially in this industry um she never makes me question her and her intentions i think that yeah those are probably my two like i just i never like i want to what i realize is how good trust is like just to trust each other and love each other obviously um had quite a colorful past being on both sides of that um but now i'm gonna realize like it's just so nice to just be full of trust and love and security so yeah cute everywhere i go someone says as you age you know you need to eat more protein but as we all know i love to have four drinks at all times sometimes it's hard to get enough protein and also finding the right

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that my husband has like platonic girlfriends or exes that are still in his life because like I feel like like you know the way we grow up like sometimes you're just like all in the same circle or whatever it is. But I had a friend, my best friend was a guy and has been a guy for 25 years. We grew up together since we were five years old. And when he got married, things got really weird because she was like, she said on paper, she was like, Oh, this is like your sister. You know, like that, like we have never, I've never had a thought about him. We have never done any, like we are literally brother and sister, but it got, it got weird. And then there was a time after they were married that she was like i don't want you to be around kelty in this way like

obviously maybe i'm a terrible person but what how like this is this is going to be tough for you you know what i mean like this question too like i do think it's weird for a guy to have a girl like even though i had the same thing like how are you going to navigate that well you're like hey new girlfriend welcome to my life amanda klutz six foot tall model beautiful most perfect angel on earth is my best friend like you yeah it's tough harry i think because we start off with those people in like from day one so there's no like question i think that's what we're pretty lucky with like if it was just a random situation and i'm like hey i'm just gonna go hang out with my ex-girlfriend and my beautiful friend amanda it'd be a little bit confusing like so i think we kind

of got lucky with just off the rip it's like you can see us all work but i guess it's also another thing um i've been in situations where i've been afraid to have everyone like hanging out and i think like because we're kind of all just hanging out that it really disarms that and makes it easier um and can kind of like kill any insecurities at all or any issues with that so yeah so if the obviously if it was the shoes on the other no that's not the right thing i'm looking for if the if the situation was reversed and the girl that you pick is like best friends with her ex like you're okay with that and her her ex is like jason momoa literally like the hottest guy ever well he's like oh i'm just gonna surf here's my nine abs i'm very tall and culture crazy you're

saying that yeah uh that that has that happens uh that has happened um and it's fine because i'm just like you know what i i get it from my perspective but i just it just comes down to trust i think like yeah maybe i'm too trusting at times but then on the other hand i'm like unless you've done something unless you've come up to me and be like oh no we've like a month ago then i'm like oh it's a bit bit gross but if it was like a high school thing or years ago and you kind of work back like i think me and georgia are very rare because um after my dad had passed that was when she reached out and we just fully cemented our friendship after that um and we kind of come to each other with relationship problems which is always fun and weird um but

yeah I don't know I think like I'm pretty relaxed in the past maybe I wouldn't be relaxed about things but I think just because of the position I'm in now I'm like oh I I get it like I understand like it can work you're you're evolved yeah you're evolved and you're allowed to evolve Yeah. I mean, a lot of people like would not be okay with that. And it's, you do seem very like secure and relaxed about it. Like it seems very genuine. So yeah.

Of all the most. Yeah. You got our stamp of approval and we're the biggest bitches in the world. So, you know, you're welcome. I, you know, Harry, like this was actually, sorry, this is actually a trap door. This is a trap before the show airs. If you can pass our trap, then you're allowed to put it out. And I do want to ask you about like what you may not know, but like what what's your big dream like now?

OK, so assuming that you meet the love of your life on this show and you're going to get married or you're going to stay in a relationship or whatever. Like I was thinking about how you remember Travis Kelsey had chasing Kelsey catching Kelsey. I was going to ask you if you've ever heard of it. Yeah. Have you ever heard of catching Kelsey? I loved it it was incredible you know and it's funny because like when you think of Travis now you don't you don't think of him like being on a dating show and finding love and stuff and he's got this huge podcast which you already have and like now you know obviously he's married

Taylor Swift a little different but I don't know like do you have a long do you have like no one grows up being like oh I can't wait to move to Hollywood and be on dating shows like what, what is the Harry Jowsey, like long form, like dream for this career of yours? Yeah. I think the, the ultimate goal for anyone who's been on like a reality dating show is to host one. Like I would love to produce, like now we're pitching, like we have a few shows that are, uh, in early production, um, that I'm producing, which is kind of where I want to go. Um, because it gets, it's scary being like always, always having a camera on you and always making mistakes. um so I'm trying to hopefully this show makes me look perfect and I can kind of hide off into the

sunset and host shows and produce shows that's the ultimate goal is to just do that like any Cohen's got it figured out I feel like that would be that would be the dream you do really well doing that and I would love to see you like do a game show too I'll be so fun like that's I want to do fun stuff I'm sick of the drama yeah like a like a pop a reality show pop culture jeopardy where it's just like world's, you know that show like World's Dumbest, but it's just all the reality shows doing like really hard questions.

I love that. Yeah. Yeah, I would love to do that. That'd be so fun. Kelty's ready to produce you. Don't worry. No, I'm good. She's got ideas.

I'm taking a moment. I'm taking a break. Okay. So last thing, the very last thing we're going to have you do is not to promote us, but we have a very important quiz called Should You Date Him?

And we need Harry's advice to all of our ladies in the lady gang. So we're going to do this. He loves fedoras. Should you date him? No. What? No way.

Deal breaker. He exclusively wears flip-flops to formal events. Should you date him? Big no. Yeah. His screensaver is a picture of him. Oh. You've done it.

Harry's guilty. Him on the beach. i'll say no i was like i was looking good this one of course there's one time in hawaii i was like damn i look reddit i need that i need to see that every day you know it's you know i really sad screensaver so my best friend dom he's staying with me right now and i was looking at his phone i was like what is this and it's just all mean comments about him being ugly that's his screen oh my god and he's so hot yeah he's the hottest guy ever but he just like makes him like work harder i'm like what are you like he's had the most insane glow up i'm like dude what are you

doing that is bad self-talk yeah everyone needs to give him love yeah oh my gosh want to marry dom doesn't sound the same i mean he is hot okay um he refers to himself in third person i hate i hate that anyone who does third person should go to jail yes for sure immediate life lock up yeah It's a federal crime. Yeah. Okay. He is, he's a little bit off with your parents. That's a weird one.

But I think you shouldn't date them. I feel like everyone, you should at least try. Yeah. Figure out what the vibe is. What's going on. Yeah. Also, Jack, we're so, one of the questions is like, you found a box of fake passports under his bed.

What were we thinking? Like, they have like multiple identities. Who's dating Secret Service people? what's going on i don't know i mean you found a pair of panties in his room that aren't yours like obviously it's a no i don't know this book sucks listen we wrote it a long time ago it was 10 years ago yeah i mean you know what that's in the book that got printed this is the this is hand-drawn vaginas by me jack drove that's the inside of the book so that's where we're at okay that's cool when is there a version we're iconic well we tried we did another book it

flopped and then we haven't written one since then yeah this one was a big success i think it was the the obviously it was the should you date him quiz over the edge people are like oh this is great okay harry listen we're very excited for you um and i we can't wait the whole lady gang is going to be watching this show we are so pumped um the the show drops august 5th lady gang this is gonna be what keeps you through the end of summer into the fall it is truly we hate everything and we really love this i think we're gonna have a watch party it's that good harry really is i haven't seen it so i don't know i can't wait for you to watch your own show everything we literally just have people on all the time and we're like hey congrats on the show and then we get off the

podcast and we're like it's really not that good um this is really good we talked about it on a group text before you even got on so congratulations no way really thank you so much yeah I've been really nervous about it to be honest like all week we'll be doing press I've been coming to everything like super anxious like sweaty palms I've never had that before my therapist said I was about to have an anxiety attack I was like is that what that feeling is I don't want to do that that's horrible well you know what when you feel that way it's usually a sign that you're like headed in the right direction like the absolute fear if you weren't scared about it you wouldn't care and then it would just be like a blip like i do think this is gonna this show's gonna change

your life in a really like love aside like i think it puts you in such a from what we've seen like such a wonderful light like you are so lovable on it yeah and i think it's gonna with netflix behind it you know it's gonna change your life and so that's why your fear because you're like you know your life's never gonna be the same and your internal organs also can feel that so just take a deep breath you're good thank you so much yeah i think also like the other shows too like i was a bit of a dick you know i was being a bit of a sausage and like this one i was like i can't really hide behind anyone and i just had to be myself so i think that's what's also really scary is it's just it's me being me instead of like i'm just gonna be a drunk idiot and kiss

everyone which yeah a little bit it's it's very vulnerable but you're such a little cutie it's gonna be amazing you have nothing to worry about yes the best and we'll be watching okay you're gonna be fine keep coming back you'll be fine we uh we will uh we're so excited for you and how do we end the show jack see you next tuesday is the end see you next tuesday five six seven eight see you next tuesday see you next tuesday lady gang is hosted and produced by kelty knight beckett oban and jack vanek with social media support from collie carrera audio and video editing from jared monaco and additional support from steve delameter and podcast one Thanks for watching!