LadyGang - Jana Kramer on the LadyGang - Ep38

Episode Date: August 22, 2016

Maybe you know Jana Kramer from "Friday Night Lights" or maybe "One Tree Hill" or maybe you just bought her amazing new album, "thirty one!" However you know her, be prepared to "know her" on a whole 'nother level after she joins the LadyGang! They're talking mommy shaming, songwriting, Hollywood Heartbreaks, and most painful beauty regimens. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Hey guys, it's your Lady Gang, Jack Vanek, Kelty Knight, and Becca Tobin. Thank you so much for subscribing on iTunes, and thanks for supporting the great sponsors who make it possible for us to have this much fun with you every single week for free. Well, what is this? Welcome to the Lady Gang. That's amazing. Say that again. The Lady Gang. Things are about to change around here.

Each week we catch up with Hollywood's hottest girl posse, Kelty Knight, Becca Tobin, and Jack Vanek. hello hello hi lady ganger hi hey um how are you guys doing are you asking us yeah oh you never asked us before i'm really interested today i'm doing okay okay i had a lot of sugar and so i'm like really on another level i need you guys to meet me there um a little bit hi guys i'm becca tobin hi becca hi uh across from me i'm gonna do a little introduction in case you haven't listened before kelty night television host and her fun fact is that she uses the biggest font on her iphone you know like what your grandma uses i don't believe that yes she does i've seen it a million times and i always catches me off guard do you have bad eyesight you know i'm a little bit

dumb because i'm a blind one of this group and i don't use that font i actually i'm going to get my eyes tested this week because i'm having extreme night blindness where like i'm driving my car and i can't see anything holy shit all right um hopefully she's here next week two fun facts for me sitting next to me is clothing designer jack vanik and her fun fact is she used to be in a bowling league and she also has a turquoise bowling ball with her name on it i'm so cool do you still use it when you go bowling no because it fit my like 13 year old fingers oh now i have that little snubby fingers oh remember when you would have birthday parties at the bowling alley and they'd give you a pin and you'd hope that boys would come and i would kick all their

asses because i was in a bowling league that's really i was also in a bowling league were you yeah i was on team pack of bowlers i was not because i was doing things like trying to make the olympic gymnastics team um my fun fact is that are you gonna introduce yourself i'm becca tobin look it up google it google her nudes um and my fun fact is that my favorite song is Valerie by Amy Winehouse. That is a good song. That's a really, that's a nice choice.

I know. My mom's name is Valerie. I also love Amy Winehouse and that song just makes me want to dance. I would just like to say before we start that we're doing really bad

with the eating while recording. I know. We've gotten so many complaints that eating, that we're eating and it's gross. We're literally opening bags,

pouring things in. I'm being very careful to chew away from the mic. I don't even know why you put this garbage on the table. I don't even like the gummies and I still eat them.

It pisses me off. Keep them over there. more for me um all right it's time for good week yes it is bad week oh no jack i'll start okay uh so my good week see i'm starting it off by saying hold on let me just describe what jack did she used the correct terminology in the good week bad week segment by opening her arms into a jesus pose like she was the second coming of host we're 10 months into this podcast and you are the first time ever on the back congrats jack congrats so my good week if you guys follow me on instagram you would have seen a couple weeks ago that i

changed one of the predictive text things in scott's phone yeah it's amazing anytime he'd type yes i changed it to i love my girlfriend oh my god and somehow i mean i was like hoping it would you know happen to like a work thing or like it would be like somebody else but it ended up he ended up texting me and it was really funny because you guys are inseparable and text each other 800 times a day or what how do you do that what change the text uh you go under settings keyboard and then it's just predictive text it's amazing so anyways i changed another one before i left yesterday what is it and my employee did this to another one of my employees and i love it i changed no to yes sir may i please have another

that's amazing i gotta do that to chris tonight it's it's the best prank ever because it's like really you know innocent but so amazing it's so good like anyone you do is really funny somebody online changed that to like diddly do oh my god i love it just we're so young and hip what what's next my bad week okay yeah yeah so we're going um i was visiting scott last week and every day he like made a smoothies every morning and every morning it was the same thing the smoothie is it was blueberries banana strawberries uh almonds whatever same thing every single morning i drank it every single morning and then on the fourth morning i drank the smoothie we go in the car my diarrhea my mouth itches a little bit and i'm like oh that's

probably a banana i'm allergic to bananas a little bit and i'm sitting in the car i'm like oh my god my eyes are burning a couple more minutes later i'm like oh i'm breaking out in hives my whole entire body breaks out in hives a few minutes later my throat closes up a few minutes later one side of my face blows up one side the other side was fine and then he had to like rush me to the emergency room what happened i don't know i like what was different in the smoothie scott nothing it was the same smoothie you probably had too many bananas in a row and it built up in your body but i do that every morning though a banana well it's time you're knocking on heaven's door if you keep it up well now i i'm like i think it's the almonds for some reason because

i ate a banana the next morning but i'm gonna show you guys this photo because so becca one of the first episodes you had that allergic reaction to the cat and in becca's photo of her face she looked like a hot meth head let me see yours i look like half of my face is melting off will be the judge of that oh my god you look so bad it literally looks like the right side of my face is melting off my face no do you know what this looks like it looks like when you put your face into a computer and it like shows you the rapid progression if you keep drinking and smoking yeah it's like what i would look like what you'll look like in 20 years if you don't stop drinking jack holy we're gonna post it on at the lady gang on instagram so you guys can see

brutal it doesn't even look like you thank you i'm like i hope it doesn't no my whole even my nose changed shapes i don't know whatever i didn't die so you still look cute today thank you you're back to normal i'm back guys i'm going next okay i had the best facial of my life oh this is my tell us about it good week um so i go to this place in la shout out to rea and they did they give like the fiercest 75 facial because in los angeles you know you can get a 500 facial i'm not about that life because i like to get facial every five or six weeks like you know i'm on tv i need my face to look nice diane at raya i don't think it's a real name because she was definitely like immigration like she was like had a russian name that was hard to

pronounce and then was like i'm gonna be diane yeah and we're just fine either way i love you both names diane she was doing my extractions and then she's like started pulling on my earlobe and she's like oh oh no oh no and then she like extracted all around my earlobe and then she had my ear completely folded over she extracted all the blackheads from behind my ear that i didn't even know were there because i can't see it they were there what yes we have blackheads behind our ears and we don't know and all of our other facials facialists are sam it matters to me because now i know they're there and now i know they're cleaned out and as a type person i feel extra clean gross does everyone have them i think so i'll check on you later well and you know

they've never been extracted before so they're probably like 20 years no and here's the thing you could tell that she like my facial was two and a half hours like it's an hour block i walked out there and i was like for 75 yes and she was like every time she'd got one she goes oh oh good one yeah like she loved her job so much i wish i was passionate like that about anything i feel dermatologists have to love it they're all she was diane so if you need a good facial wrap okay that was i was excited about behind my ears here's my bad week so you guys know how i have been definitely we've all noticed raising my profile in hollywood like when the podcast started i was on the z list and since then i have really been you know spotted paparazzi couple mags

a couple of gossip tabloids, some good red carpets, some nice fashion mentions. So I've been feeling pretty good about myself to the point where once or twice I've worn my sunglasses places. I probably shouldn't wear them just in case someone snapped me. You know what I mean? That you called? This is amazing. So I'm at the TCA's, um, which is like all of, so all of August is like all the television

networks throw these massive parties and it's like all these interviews and it goes on for all of August. and so basically you're i was at the beverly hilton and i was doing interviews and you interview all the celebrities for all the new shows and then you did you ever do the tcas i'm sure you did right i think i interviewed a tca probably so then the celebrities are all leaving so there's like this guy he comes up to me on the street and he's like oh excuse me and i was like of course i'll take a picture with him in my head you know and he goes to my face he goes do you know where all the celebrities are yes that's amazing that's my good week

and i was like well i think if you wait here long enough someone will come up to valet their car which i was doing oh my god that was just god bringing me right down to my z-list level yep that's amazing oh truly i don't know if you know me from life and style magazine but i guess not that just made my day I know I'm changing my good week to that well I'm gonna make you feel even worse okay hardly so I rarely go to the grocery store I hate going to the grocery store it is the worst thing in the whole world the worst part about being an adult um but I decided after a workout I went to Barry's boot camp and I like was feeling really productive after because I was like, I got my good workout in.

I'm not going to Postmates Chick-fil-A to my house tonight. I'm going to actually go to the grocery store. So I go to the grocery store. I had just gotten off the treadmill at Barry's. No more than 20 minutes before this. And I'm pushing my cart around, and I'm trying to get it done quickly. And I notice this guy is sort of looking at me. And I was like, oh, God.

I'm so sweaty and disgusting. He's probably like, you have no business being in public. I feel like you smell cany-fleur. Yeah. I'm stopped in front of the salad dressings, and he looks over at me, and he goes, I just wanted to tell you that you're devastatingly beautiful. Oh, damn. Did he know you were a celebrity?

No. And I just looked at him, and it wasn't creepy. Was he hot? He wasn't ugly. Damn. Wow. I don't think I've ever been to home like that. Was he British?

He wasn't British. And he just said it, and I smiled, and I was like, thank you. and then he just like walked away oh my god so he didn't even want to like bone me well he probably did want to bone you he probably did he probably came up and smelled you and then left and then he was like whoa it's like i don't want to grow into those crazy girls that just eat salad but isn't that amazing i really it's been a long time a long time since a guy has come up to me and told me that i was beautiful well and there's a difference between like getting hit on by like like gross guys yeah but like a nice respectable man and when you're wearing no makeup yeah

Because usually I don't understand the girls that go out like done up voluntarily. Like if I'm done up, it's because I have to go somewhere or I have an audition or whatever. And it's like the attention I get from that feels so gross and I'm not even that hot. So I can only imagine the hot girls walking around L.A. Like they must enjoy it because they continue to do it. Like I hate – No one wants a full lash and a foundation at 2 p.m. My face looks so itchy.

Plenty of Los Angeles women do though. like how do they do it they just love it i don't know i would love to know the answer but here's the thing i actually saw some i know this is interrupting you but no go for it like i saw some girls i was shopping at like the grove and i had gotten out of work early and it was like 3 30 and they had the full kylie jenner contour kit on you look ridiculous like it's it only looks good on instagram or at night in the club yeah like that deep you're young just let your skin out you don't need all that makeup i know it's like you're like 20 years old dude your skin beautiful it's crazy let it free beauty is wasted on the young is that the term i don't think so

i think yeah i don't know anyways screw you guys um my bad week is actually pretty uh relevant right now because jack is sitting next to me in like little daisy dukes like the shortest shortest shortest shortest shorts ever sorry and um i want to say i recently was in my backyard and i saw the reflection of my legs in a pair of pajama shorts and it was like quilted like i have like chanel bags on my thighs dude so do i no you don't and it's only you can only see it when it's the direct sunlight as of now thank god yeah but i sat there like lifting the skin up on my thigh and letting it drop down and lifting it up and dropping it down and also being like becca you're an effing moron i had the best legs when i was young and i still didn't wear short shorts and

i realized today i'm gonna die without having worn enough shorts it's over like it's over i think it's it is a sad day in womanhood when you catch your reflection of the back of you for the first time in your 30s because you live your whole 20s and you're like i'm so cute and You don't even worry. You're not even, I'm not even concerned what my, the bottom of my under back of my ass looks like. And then you get old and then you clench to see if you still like, well, it's not that saggy.

It's muscle. Let me clench it. And that's worse because then it's just straight cottage cheese. It pushes the cellulite out to the top. It's so upsetting. And I didn't even appreciate it when I was young. I hated wearing shorts. You never appreciated shit.

When I die, I want someone to put me in a pair of Daisy dues because I know at some point i'm gonna get thin enough underground to look good in them and i i need one more day on that note on that uplifting thought we're gonna be right back with our guest who also looks fantastic in short shorts and she's got a baby what the oh get her out of here now back to the lady gang okay i'm embarrassed to admit this you guys but you're about to learn a lot about me our guest today is someone that i first fell in love with many moons before i first interviewed her because i was a massive friday night lights fan timmergan's forever um many of you fell in love with her on one tree hill but her talents clearly were just too big for television

and she has since who wrote that i've written this janet be quiet okay i have she has birthed her love of music two best-selling albums including um she's won the acm award for top new female artist she was nominated this year for female vocalist of the year no big deal she also birthed something else her adorable daughter yay welcome to the lady gang podcast jenna kramer you girls are so cute like you're actually too hot to be here i know you're on a press tour right now you walked in i just i was picking a zit like i had yeah i was like i had like a tissue on my i was like i just picked a zit sorry fine you can stay we gotta bring you down a little bit yeah we have to bring you down to our level or else you're out. Um, we're very excited for your music. Is it

ever surprising to you that people were able to be like, I loved you as an actress, but like, I really legitimately love you as an artist. Well, the coolest thing is, is people that are like, I'll sometimes read comments and it'll say, Oh, Jana Kramer wants to act now. I'm like, Oh my gosh, I love that. Cause they have no idea that I started as an actress. Yeah. Like that's, that's the coolest thing because a lot of the people that knew me before were the one tree hillers so they kind of came into the country world with me but then you know it's been probably five six years since i've actually done anything acting wise so yeah but it's not just that you're like in the country world like you're like female vocals of the year level like does that blow your

mind let's talk like that's like the top you know but girl it's it's still awesome though to be even in the in the realm of possibility so talk to me about the new music okay i have a new single out right now it's called circles and it's my favorite song on the album because it's the it's my love song for the album but it's about my baby girl too so just the circle of life and it's such a good song thank you jack's our resident huge country music fan oh yay thanks because it kind of has like a different vibe to it too you know it's not like it's just different i love it i've been listening to it all day thanks just prepping myself i appreciate that how hard is it to write though because you know then everyone's gonna pick apart your life um for me it's therapy i

remember one of my favorite songs on my album is called the last song i walked into this writing room and uh they were had this like really like upbeat music going and i was like no like i'm not happening i was like i need to write a song about this person and it needs to be the last time i ever speak his name ever again and literally i was like i wanted to be as raw as possible so in one of the lines it was like um just like this shit that we went through because it's just you could, I couldn't think of another word. I'm like this, it was shit, you know? So instead of writing nasty Facebook messages, I just, I write a song saying this is the last time I will ever speak your name, but it's, it's such therapy. Like I love writing and people can, you know,

think what they want, you know, and they can, they can kind of dive in and you can, people can speculate, but I know who, like who it's about and what it is. What about the, the title album titles how pressure how much pressure is that because that was hard because i wanted it to be like a very strong title and we were trying to think of all these i'm like oh it sounds kind of cheesy and then i was like all of me i'm like well john legend just did that so i was like taken and then i was just like what's like super strong i'm like you know what's stronger than a woman owning her age so that's why i did 31 it's pretty i like that damn that's good because i would lie and i'd be like 25 and a half forever thanks yeah exactly um i'm very interested in

because we are not mamas yet the mommy judging oh my it's like literally she went i want to explain this to all our listeners okay she went to the grocery store oh no to buy some food for her child and it was as if you were dangling the baby over a blanket in a blanket over the balcony like god forbid she buy baby food it was well first of all it started because i didn't breastfeed so that's a whole other like you know mommy shaming thing so that was i mean i had to go through that and then i was so excited that jolie was ready to eat foods and um you know she was eating a lot so my my doctor was like it's totally fine to start her on solids and so you know i go to the grocery store jolie and i and put all the food on there take a picture and they're like

first of all she's too young she can't be eating that young why aren't you making your own food like that's so bad for your daughter and she's gonna end up with this and i'm just like i'm sorry like are you her doctor are you her mother like you're not like i think i'm gonna do what's best for my child that's insane but then i'm like why like why can't you be why can't we all be nice why can't we help each other out be like hey you know what worked best for me was beach nut instead of earth or something you know or i don't know just give me like positive reinforcement not some not negative because i honestly i know there's time i hate when people say there's not i don't have any time but i really don't have the time to make baby food and if i did i'd probably waste a

lot of food and i don't want to waste a lot of food i've seen bitches put coca-cola in bottles so like they need to settle down i thank you and i can't i'm like my mom gave me like freaking whiskey i'm like am i allowed to give her baby tylenol she's like it's fine but i'm like i know I'm so afraid to even ask. People are going to be like, ooh, look at what she did. It's just so crazy because it's the other moms. You're already not showering. You're covered in poop yourself.

That's another thing. Why wouldn't you want to lift another mom up? I said something to people, and I was like, honestly, I don't remember the last time I showered. And I said it just because I really don't. It might have been like two days. But people are like, that is so unhealthy and so unsanitary. Oh, my God. Being unhygienic and being around your daughter.

And you should really take showers when people. I was like, are you freaking kidding me? No. That's insane. I have showered, but why would you even like, like, yes, I realized that I need to be clean. You literally can't say anything. I mean, honestly, I don't have a baby. I don't have a baby.

And I don't know. Last time I showered, you know what I mean? It's good for your hair. Yeah. Whatever. It is good for your hair. Your body naturally cleans itself. Just let it do its thing.

Wet wipes. Why are wet wipes? Can you just go to the shower? Isn't that fun? No, but I mean, even that stuff, like in, I hate to bring it up, but like in Florida, it's like, I would have let my child walk on the beach. I didn't know that there was, there's no signs saying alligator. You know what I'm saying?

like yeah but stopping like i would never do that like oh because you're such you're a better mom than she is like let's not even you know you are i like listening to vicky gundelson on real house wives of orange county where she's like unless you're perfect don't judge me and i was like as much as these are the cheesiest taglines ever it's kind of true yeah like i don't i've never met one perfect person no more than you're a liar or a perfect parent it's like you're supposed to screw up like i'm gonna mess up yeah i totally realize i'm gonna mess up like i you're doing it for the first time yeah and and jolie's doing it for the first time too she's like i'm new to this too what is this bright light and like i don't know um let's get into your hollywood life so what has

been your ish moment the moment where you thought i've made it this is it i am the ish uh probably actually being nominated for female vocals of the year oh with that it wasn't being fan voted does that make sense so it was in like the industry it was industry voted who was in with you it was miranda lambert uh carrie underwood kelsey ballerini and i think it was casey musgraves maybe i mean that's crazy it felt like really good because i've i've won things before that were like more on the fan side of things but just to be in the yeah in the mix does that put a lot of pressure on the dress that you wear oh yeah and my stylist and i who's here right now what's up low what's up low um yeah we sometimes go at it but it's but he's my best friend so i mean in

like the loveliest of ways because it's like it's so hard especially since just having a baby too like i'm i'm more self-conscious yeah you're pretty fat right now yeah huge no but i'm but you know what i mean though like i get it i get it it's like stretch armstrong down there so it's super stretchy what has been that's amazing that's a verb now you just invented it yeah what has been your hollywood heartbreak the moment where you thought too hard i'm out packing we're talking guys because i know i'm anything i'm anything but i'm talking career like what's the moment when it was just so hard that you thought this is never going to happen for me and i'm out oh man like every other day it was tough being here because just everyone's

trying to chase a dream and it's it can get if you're not around the right people it can get real negative real fast um is there one moment someone do something terrible they push you down the stairs no i think honestly it was when i tested i the very first thing i ever auditioned for i i tested and it got all the way and then i didn't get it but i you know obviously the first thing you attest for you're not going to get but it was just kind of that moment where i was like wait is that a sign or but i mean it's i don't know i do you remember what the job was yes for clubhouse actually never got picked up so so you know who also was uh testing was kristen bell because she's like what am i gonna do because i think i'm gonna go do veronica mars and she

ended up leaving the testing to go test for veronica mars wow yeah it was hard for her between a test oh yeah so busy i have to audition for every day i know but how's that for you this year it's crazy i mean i'm barely made it here i don't know the last time i showered Ew, you're so gross. I'm drinking LaCroix. All right, you guys. When we come back, we are going to have a like a lady question that is very secretive. Ooh, I like secrets.

Ooh. The Lady Gang. All right, guys. Welcome back. Today is like a lady question. I made up. So you know it's really good. I'm very scared.

I'm ready. What is one thing that you do that you would never tell a significant other about? Me. It's farting. Oh, my God. But girls fart. You've never told your husband you farted.

I mean, I like fart, but I would never acknowledge the fart. What if it smells? It just didn't happen. Ignore it. That's a very strange thing. I'm going to think about mine. Do you know yours?

I have to think about mine, too. I know. I was trying to think, too, because I feel like I tell Scott everything. Getting my butthole waxed. oh you do that yeah yeah oh i tried once and i was like it hurts wait you've never what do you do just shave you shave it it's so itchy when it comes back i'm like a dog i like scoop my ass across the rug you gotta like put the leg up on the shower yeah but like if i miss a day it's like

so it's like i have a ringworm it is i know i need to get back into it but it hurts i hate getting whacked down there i tried laser and they burnt me no god you guys i had to have i had a pack of peas like on my did you sue me why does everybody did you sue that no i felt bad you felt bad yeah because i like she was nice she was like i'm so sorry i'm like i have frozen peas on my who like oh my god you gave that up in a hot second yeah jack what do you not tell your significant okay mine's kind of along the same lines because i started getting laser hair removal because i get ingrown hairs down in my lady parts and anytime i get an ingrown hair i'm like i'll tell scott that i cut myself shaving and i have a band-aid on it and don't touch me because i don't want

to talk about ingrown hairs ingrown hairs are gross they're not that gross they're really speaking of hairs i get these like black hairs on my chin oh yeah the whiskers yeah but it's like legit black hair and then i'm like i have to go to the bathroom really fast and like pull you know get the tweezers and like hide from like pulling my what about on your nips razor can't pull that that hurts no wait you shave it yeah that's such a rumor so i mean that's so false does not grow back it's not a spiky nipple hair just do it every day guys i have such a good every day holy crap she's you guys she's busy she's shaving and she's getting the baby food

I don't have a child, and I can't shave my butthole every day. Do you want to hear a crazy story? Back when I was a performer, I can grow one of my follicles grows at, like, an alarming rate. On your vagina? No, on my nipple. And I grew, like, an inch-long nipple hair, and I plucked it, and I taped it into the opening night card of my friend. No, you didn't. You're welcome.

That's what it's like to be friends with Kelty. Do they know that you did that? Yeah, it was like a joke. I was like, guys, check it out. I'm growing it. and then I like clocked it out. Oh my God. Ouch.

So, well, we certainly have our lives figured out and we're going to help you figure out your lives when we come back. Guys will never like us, by the way, ever again. Oh, we've got... Not knowing where it's over. It's fine. When we come back,

we're going to answer all the Ask the Lady Gang questions. Hey, ladies! Funky. Ask the Lady Gang. Okay, for this last part of our podcast, you're going to help us answer user-written questions because you've kind of got your life together and a lot of our listeners need a little bit of help.

Before we start, if you guys want 20% off of jackvanek.com, use code LADYGANG and I brought you some presents. Ooh, I love presents. I'll come to you after. Thanks. Okay, so our first question comes from Anonymous and the subject is pubic hair. Right on trend of the episode.

There we go. That's shocking. Yeah, there we go. I did not plan that. Are you sure? Weird. Okay, she says, Hi, Lady Gang.

I have a question. and I'm too embarrassed to ask anyone in person. I'm 19 years old, and I've never really had a serious relationship before my current one. Things are going very well between me and my boyfriend, but I'm afraid to take a step further because I have no idea what it's supposed to look like

down there these days. Do I get rid of the hair? If so, how much, and what is the best way to do it? I really need some advice because it's making me very insecure about my body. Okay, here's what I would say. This is my opinion, and y'all might have different opinions,

but I would say, first of all, guys like it all different ways. you need to own whatever you like the best like don't do it for a guy just because if they want it whatever or the strip whatever like you do it the way you want it like how you feel pretty yeah that's my personal i agree i feel like when you're that young though you don't really know what yeah you want here's the thing if you put on your sexiest panties and it's coming out the side take off that part yeah yeah that's my advice yeah yeah totally like i've always shaved my entire life but i feel like number one it was because it was kind of in when we were younger

i feel like hair is now like kind of back cool to have yeah but then i also get no you're saying hair is at is back in oh i know and i couldn't grow mine to save my life it's gone also because of laser hair removal it's like straight like an asian person yeah you can comb it and braid it yeah there's no way it's not happening i don't even think mine's growing in the words of cheryl burke who was on our show months ago you do you girl yeah yeah you do you do however you however you can ask your friends like yeah ask your what's in in your city yeah maybe there's a cool if you feel comfortable with it then that's yeah exactly yeah great okay all right next question comes from katie she says although i have a boyfriend some feelings for this

guy i used to have a major flirt moment with still linger my friend had asked my permission 100 times to go after my flirtation guy and i've given it to her because i assume it would be a literal crazy move to lay claim over another guy while dating someone else sorry am i correct in giving her my permission even though it hurts me so much to hear about her pursuits how do i stop girl you made a huge no no i don't care if you're like but that's just like rules you know what i mean don't don't ever even if you're like i think even if you're you should never like go to a past like a friend going to a friend going to a past boyfriend i don't think that they ever dated it was just a guy she was like flirting with if you don't want anyone to flirt with your side piece

then you shouldn't have a boyfriend if you still have feelings and obviously this person you don't really like that and if you do like if you think you're gonna marry the dude then we'll maybe you should rethink that yeah yeah i mean that might not be the guy for you maybe as a problem just go back to the relationship yeah she's brewing no i just i agree i think it's like because i'm trying to think if there's any of my friends like any guys from my past that if my girlfriend asked permission to like date him if it would bother me i would well you're a cold hard no but i'm saying like i think even if i didn't have feelings for that person it would be weird right you know what i mean it's weird but again it's like it's not an ex oh it's just someone

she has like a little crush she says some guy stop being so greedy kelly katie you can't lay claim over every guy you've had a crush on or else i would have like i would just say if you have a crush on someone else and you're yeah you shouldn't be dating the guy that you're currently with yeah like go break up with your boyfriend see what you got with the fling and then hey if you want to go back go back we want to support you and we want to love you katie i think right you're wrong question about your current relationship yeah let's figure out that that current relationship first girl love you love you girl that was such good advice okay last question comes from kelly she says i've grown up with this need in my life to be the

person who is enough on her own i want to be the boss in work and the boss in my own life but now that i'm getting older parentheses she's 25 so old i know you're really freaking old i don't want to end up alone and i'm worried that just because i wanted to make sure i was in control of my own story maybe it's i'm going to be a one character book you are so young and i honestly though when i was 25 and people told me that i'm like but i'm not it's so annoying because i'm like but i'm not young and i'm whatever i'm gonna be alone forever but it's like looking back now i wish i'd have been like go have fun enjoy your 20s get to know yourself and then figure out who you want to be with after that also you're gonna be a in a better relationship down the line yeah

when you've figured out your own stuff yeah and i think that anybody who's kind of looking to fulfill that part of their life always ends up fulfilling it in like a weird way so it's like if you're focusing on yourself that's the best thing that you could do and like to find a relationship that's gonna work for you oh snap kelty's about to drop a truth bomb on you kelly in your 20s you're looking for love and you're like i want someone who's hot and sexy and we have fun together and we go on trips listen wait until you're like 30 31 32 to figure out your guy because then you will be smart enough and know enough in your life to just marry someone who is incredibly rich like just marry someone who's so rich turn because because working is the worst

and shoes are the best but no way I'd rather be with someone that like come on if you met an 80 year old rich dude and you don't even like him I'm not talking 80 years old I'm talking a nice looking good man

with a jet if Kelly Hook looks like Gigi Hadid great I'm sure she's adorable but if there was a billionaire to be had she's 25 she'd have him but they're not billionaires yet unless they fell into money well okay well that's true also nobody at 25 is established

meanwhile kelty's happily married to a very nice man is she but how much easier would my life be if i had a jet and i wasn't waiting in line to fly southwest i'm gonna murder you wouldn't be happy i mean you might but like you probably i probably wouldn't be no but your life i just stop rolling your eyes oh my god i mean that again since we're friends and i have to fly back to nashville you could maybe i can use your jet right thank you here's the thing how much do you change between southwest yeah why it's if you're non-stop oh it's the only one but did you get business so you get to go on a1 um yeah i hope so then you get the window seat in the front you'll be fine girl i know all about that southwest life here's the thing though you change a lot from

25 to 30 oh yeah you change a lot so kelly chill you got you got more time to be a one woman book I wonder where she's from right because if you're in Atlanta then your book could be all about myself exactly you're gonna make

a lot of money off of being super lonely yeah and you'll be successful and you'll buy your own shoes and take that back about Atlanta Atlanta is a metropolitan city

by the way I was just talking to Shaq and he was here earlier and he was like Shaq? oh he has a show here yeah

he was talking about Atlanta what was he saying? are you ever in Atlanta? no I don't know Shaq do you have a plane going there? because I'm about to get

on a Southwest flight Can you drop me off in Nashville or what? I'll just jump out of the plane and charge you down. All right, you guys. Well, we've had a blast. Thank you for coming on the show. Thank you for having me. I really appreciate it.

You're so fun. I've never learned so much, and now I'm going to go get waxed. Where can everyone follow you? At Kramer Girl on Twitter. Yeah, Kramer Girl. It's cute. Kramer Girl, and then, yeah. And the records on iTunes.

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