LadyGang - Julia Michaels

Episode Date: July 23, 2019

The singer-songwriter behind some of the biggest pop singles on the air stops by to talk about her rise in the industry as the Ladies help her figure out who to go out with! Follow the podcast on Instagram @theladygang and email Jac, Becca and Keltie at [e-mail]! And check out the TV show page's official page @ladygangtv Check out new episodes of the LGTV show every Sunday at 11:00 only on E! And thank you to today's sponsors: Amazon = Go to Amazon.com/shop/ladygang to find their favorite products while keeping the podcast FREE! Apartments.com = Visit Apartments.com to find your next place to rent. Change your apartment. Change the world. Figs = Head to WearFigs.com and use promo code LADY for 15% off your order Honey = Get Honey for FREE at JoinHoney.com/LADY Miller Lite = Hold true with the original light beer MTV's Real World: Atlanta = Check out all the drama streaming now only on Facebook WatchSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Each week we catch up with Hollywood's hottest girl posse, Kelty Knight, Becca Tobin, and Jack Vanek. Hello, hello, hello. Welcome to the Lady Gang. I am Becca Tobin here with Jack Vanek and Kelty Knight. oh and jack's mic is off here you go you arrived the one time that we haven't done a test beforehand and it didn't work it's true i know what was i did do a test i did a test but you didn't i guess i didn't really remember about you whatever she forgot you were on this podcast you were on this

podcast you're a real dick sorry girl i'm sorry um guys uh what you okay oh my god oh god no i gotta be honest uh we so our guest today we we did like the other part first and i thought she might be not uncool but i thought she might be like shy and do you remember when she came in she started with the yeast infection story oh yeah i was like you're our people you know what It always is such a nice surprise when somebody is, like, really f***ing cool. I know. But I think most people aren't. Yeah, most people aren't.

Most successful people aren't. No. But I think her, the reason she's cool is because she started off behind the scenes as a songwriter. And she never wanted to be a star. Yeah. So she doesn't have that, like, annoying, narcissistic star quality. Not star quality, but star narcissism.

Star narcissism. Yeah. Star narcissism. I'm into it. I'm into it. All right. Well, on that note, it's time for... Good week. Yes, it is. Bad week. Oh no. I'm starting. I'll go. Okay. My good week is one

of our girls in the Lady Gang Facebook group. Her name is Lauren. She just made this post earlier today and she said, what is something that you believed as a child and just recently found out that wasn't true? And it was such a good thread of things. And do you guys remember anything? Like when I was, well, there was a lot of like really weird ones, but one that somebody else posted that I was like, oh, I also thought this was true is I always thought it was illegal to drive at night with your light on in your car i did too and i always thought it was illegal i don't know why to drive without shoes on like to drive i also i think that might be illegal actually i didn't i looked them both up because i'm like are these illegal i'm not sure

i think the thing about the the light in the car is just that my parents would freak out because it's hard to see outside yeah yeah but apparently you can yeah i never thought it was illegal i just I knew that my parents would get so annoyed when we would. Oh, I thought that you could, like, go to jail. Like, when I was a kid, I'm like, I'm going to be thrown in jail. That's so funny. But, yeah, all these, like, there are so many, like, good posts in there. Like, thinking that it takes seven years to digest bubble gum.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Is that true? No. I don't think. No, I think you shiz it out, like, the next time you poop. Oh, really? It doesn't get, like, stuck in your intestines.

Oh, I've always thought that. Yeah. Oh. That it takes seven years to digest. Gum. Yeah. Because gum doesn't digest. I think it just goes through your system and then, but anyways, great posts.

If anybody wants to read it, go ahead. Um, I don't have, I'm trying to think of like some things that definitely are them, but I got to ruminate on it. I don't have it in like ready for podcasts. So, um, give it a think and comment on it later. Yeah. Um, my bad week is more of an interesting week. Well, I'll tell you one thing.

What? I thought a vagina was like a column, like a tube. like i thought it tubed like it was like tube shaped all the way up to baby maker but it's you mean you didn't think that there was like i didn't understand the cervix at all well the cervix is like kind of like a tube and then there's your ovaries and your fallopian i think i still couldn't draw it or i definitely still couldn't draw it i don't know you just draw like just like kind of like a long like a watermelon with a spout at the bottom oh that's my organs that's a vagina that's sort of how i picture it too like a watermelon with

a tube yeah it's not that what's the watermelon your is your actual like uterus that's where the baby comes but apparently the uterus is really really tiny up until the baby comes yeah and if your period your uterus is it your uterus that gets bigger whatever does it get bigger yeah it gets like three times bigger on your period everything is hard gross okay i'll go next um first of all oh my god i just did a jack i know you cleared your throat before you Okay. Um, I have a good week, so I get to spend some quality time with my husband. Whoa.

And, uh, it's been a long time. We've both been on the road a long time and we haven't had like a day to do fun things. Yeah. And so we had a day together and, um, we went to Home Depot and I, um, got some new plants and that's not something fun. That's not, I thought you were like, we're going to have a date day. Yeah. Like we went to the beach.

Oh. Well, we love Home Depot. You ran errands. Literally, you worked on your house. Anyway, so normally I have to sort of like say to Chris, he'll be like, what if we get a giant sculpture of the Mona Lisa and put it in the living room? A sculpture of the Mona Lisa? Like he's always like coming up with these ridiculous ideas for the house.

Okay. So he's like, well, what if we just hang plants all along this wall instead of just one plant in the corner? And I was like- Did you like that idea? It's not a bad idea. so then we went and bought the plants and he's so tall he doesn't need a ladder is this for the living room no for my bathroom upstairs you know over my bathtub yeah we're gonna do plants all

along so when you're like in the tub you're like in a jungle cool anyway we hung up the first two and it's like bringing me so much joy to know that he got his way and i like it oh this must be how zach feels does he have well since you're does he have no um is all the say of your interior weird decor you like he doesn't know he has a say absolutely he'll be like i don't like this or like this is too girly or whatever but at the end of the day it's you my veto is stronger than his veto he'd be like i don't want this he'll be like come on and he's like okay you can shiplap the bathroom and then he's like he's like what about this and i'm like i hate it and then it never happens yeah you know what i mean okay so my plants that's like the opposite of mine

really relationship yeah what he has the veto like I haven't I'm less rigid when it comes to like stuff in the house like we've similar tastes so that's good but if there's something that he like absolutely wants and loves I just don't like have it but if there's something that I really want and he hates it there's no way it's happening really no I know Zach and I are so alike you guys are the same weird I told Jared I already told him I'm like when we move in together you have zero say and anything you're like and most men shouldn't have they should well his house his house now is a very live laugh lovey type of a place with the decor very chip and joanna gaines vibes well because he lived with his ex and he also had like that don't say it like

laugh love is the best that is the best description of a house i've ever heard in my life it really it's they have that or they it was whatever it was they have like you know those like the big they're like a slab of wood and it says like tokyo los angeles like london like here's one of those if you have that take it down right now immediately that means you bought and that's not chip and joanna chip and joanna would never have something yes they would yes they would so many signs they love a sign but it's always an inspirational quote well it's not just tokyo but what if if you have a sign hanging on your wall for a city that you've never been to it's a no Well, he's been to those cities.

What if they're passionate about Tokyo? Anyway. All right. My good. All right. That was my good. I think that just across the board, a TJ Maxx sign with wording. It's got to be a hot seller though, because they're everywhere.

Honestly, the only word I have some pretty dope quotes, like a long, good, like Harvey milk quote, but I don't want like a flat sore with upon your wings into heaven and like script font of my bed. Some people might. some people might jack honestly they sell that's where they're tj maxx are you wearing yeezys no these are my ps uh 821 i wore mine yesterday i love them i do too they do look a little yeezy yes okay my good week i would never spend money on yeezys i didn't think you would my bad week so callie callie has been a pretty great street dog and she's had relatively no issues since i

got her like she had a bad tooth i had to pull when i first adopted her um but we had our first major medical malfunction this week um she was out on the cement and she broke a nail oh so her little this is weird i wanted all the dog parents out there so i don't cut her nails they they grind down on their own i think that's like a thing pavement yeah they're walking yeah so she like walks outside so they grind down on her own and then one got like a little blood and it would not stop bleeding so for two days i have had to wrap her little paw in a tensor bandage and she bled everywhere but the funniest part was that this is do you remember how i told you that i have that friend's house and every time i take callie something happens like the possum this person's

yes and so i was like can i bring my dog and they're like okay so the the pavement she's bleeding everywhere so the first time she's bleeding everywhere i got down with a scrub brush and i like scrubbed the blood off the pavement because i was like i don't know if this is going to stain or not and then she was bleeding so much they're like it's okay we'll power wash it anyway we left her blood all over their pavement i feel so bad i'm a bad friend this is why i don't have friends becca jesus christ you're such an idiot um okay i actually wonder when you have kids if that's how you feel all the time when you bring people are just wrecking people's houses yeah it must be so unless those people have kids too they understand right

yeah okay so here's my bad week uh i've been talking about the selling of a house and buying at the new house well i my bad week is that when your house is on the market i forgot i forgot that you have to always have it ready to always show and so every effing morning this week because the night before we'll get a call from our realtor and be like oh someone wants to see it at noon tomorrow so every morning i have to do everything like go around the house and like hide the dog bowls. Oh shit. Speaking of, I forgot to hide a dog bowl this morning. Pick up the dog poop in the yard. Hide her dog toys. Make sure everything is spotless. Pick and span. The towels, the this, the that. It is so hard to live like that. And then I was like, as I was cleaning up my house,

I was like, I have friends who live like this. Like their baseline is so clean that their house is always ready to show and what does that feel like it's a real your house is pretty clean i'm either messy as fuck or ready to show that's how i am too i'm what i'm never just like a little clutter my problem is when i get messy it's when i'm traveling and then it's like i bring a suitcase home and then forget the worst part and then packages come in and then i didn't throw the boxes out and then it just builds on itself until my house is a hurricane worst part it's the worst part sucks I hope you sell your house today so you don't have to so do I believe another one tomorrow I'm like I can't live like this I need to pack for my European vacations let me live

okay it's hard being you now it's so hard being me now my good week is this I found a new online store oh it's not new it's been around it's just I think it's gotten a facelift in the last it's called forever 21 but it's like one of those it's probably like a zara are you gonna say what it is i can't decide because i got i bought so much stuff from the store and like i never once thought about it but i saw i was at a brunch and this girl was wearing this amazing like linen dress and i was like it looked like it was 400 dress like this is so cute i don't even know what possessed me to ask her i never ask people where they get their clothes i was like this is so cute like i have to know where you got it and i was prepared for her to be like oh it's jenny kane

and not those that shit's like five hundred dollars yeah and it was a fancy crew and she's like don't tell anyone i go where did you get it she goes mango oh yeah mango mango is pretty cheap legit mango's a uk store mango back it's back it i mean it's probably always been around it has but Yeah, but 2003, it had some camis that you wanted with your jeans. Yeah, I used to go in New York. In the city, there was a mango. Yeah. But you guys, don't sleep on mango.

Shit. I'm going to go right now. It's so good. I bought so much stuff. Well, who's coming? Okay, don't sleep on our guest because she's got issues and so do we. So do we. Ooh.

Now back to the Lady Gang. Our guest today is a pop star and songwriter who began her career as a writer for tracks It's recorded to everyone from Selena Gomez and Shawn Mendes, who we love so much, Britney Spears, Justin Bieber, Gwen Stefani, and Demi Lovato. She released her debut solo single in 2017, Issues, and we've never felt more seen because we've all got issues. And it peaked on the Billboard Hot 100, was certified triple platinum, and garnered her Grammy Award nominations for Song of the Year and Best New Artist.

She's got a brand new record out in her monologue, Part 2. I've been listening to this in my car nonstop. She's spilling all of her emotions to the entire world, and we need it. Personally, I'm just going to start with some lyrics that I love. i love the song of falling for boys and the lyric is i like guys with big lips that treat me like shit i keep falling for boys and mistaking them for men oh please welcome to the podcast julia michael welcome yay i where do you come up with this who is treating we'll kill him please do no um uh you know i was going through a really bad breakup and the person that i was involved

with had posted a song about basically how he wished he had never met me and it was like really brutal I was just like wow like I didn't realize that like you hated me so much oh my god and I was just like I really gotta stop falling for boys and uh and then I just sort of like became the thing and just like that came out of me and I wrote it on the ukulele and I posted on my Instagram and everyone was like please make this a song and so I went to the studio and I just saying i like didn't have any ideas i just like went there and i put the headphones on and i just like blurted out everything basically you're everything like it's that easy yeah i like that she's like i just went in the studio like anybody could just go in a studio right now and just play

like a unicorn yeah god damn it how is you were behind the scenes and then you jumped out to be your own self. Yes. How is superstardom treating you? Are you okay? Um, I don't, I guess I don't even think about it like that. I just think about it as like, I get to make music now and like experience all of these beautiful like connections and all of these beautiful feelings firsthand versus, you know, like living it through somebody else. Right. Is there a song that you wrote that you wish you had a really hard time like giving that baby away? Yes. Is it too late now? it would not be that one but there was definitely like a song or two where i was like oh man like i really love this song but it didn't really click for me until issues were that i was

like oh maybe i want something more than i think that i do right and did you did you always think that you're gonna be a songwriter or did you want to be i always thought i was just gonna be a songwriter i was just like yes anonymity i can go to the coffee shop in my mickey mouse slippers and like not give a but you still can't i mean i still i still can't wear a hat yeah you're cool you can kind of get away with whatever yeah it's a it's just it's a weird thing because i'm like such a hoarder of like the sugar like counter and uh like someone will bump into me and i'll get oh i'm so sorry i'm blah and they're like it's okay also i loved your uh and i'm just like oh this is weird i'm like i can't be a dick i'm so uncomfortable right now um speaking of

being uncomfortable when you started you were like i don't want to go on stage yeah i would run away i would hide in uh staircases uh literally i had the worst stage fright had to be such a hard thing to learn how to be a performer definitely the first year of like basically all of 2017 i think i had panic attacks like every single day it was so brutal but i had done a performance for the vmas and i was singing issues and i like my hands were sweating and i felt like i was gonna pass out and there was this girl in the crowd that looked at me and she goes you've got this and i was like okay and like ever since then you know who she was i don't and like i wish i did that's so cute she was singing she was singing issues with me like

at the top of her lungs and it was like it was that moment when i realized that i feel so much more comfortable on stage when people sing with me yeah versus like being up there and feeling like isolated and alone and like no one understands sure knows you but i'm sure you need beta blockers you know how many times people have told me it's a game changer it's a game changer i'm so i'm scared though like i there's a lot of me that like it's not like it's not a drug it's not where you there's part of me that like panics if i don't panic you'll still be part of the nerves are probably good though part of me kind of still feel it likes it because i it's like okay i care like i care yeah the adrenaline yeah yeah this is still you still feel all like you still everything mentally

feel like everything but your heart is palms in your heart it doesn't race it's that would freak me out so much really oh my god yes you are a glutton for punishment yeah well she's saying i guess she's a creative right actually but every every artist i know takes a beta blocker yeah like a majority of people that i know also also as well secret it's secret i took them when i started on et because i was like puking okay well and jack when we're on tour has nervous poops like five minutes but i don't drink but you can't drink and take a beta blocker so it's too many um okay next topic uh teen choice nominee hey girl welcome to the club becca tobin was also a teen choice winner loser loser well loser in my category winner for the

overall tv show which she didn't get it okay but that's amazing yeah there is a surfboard somewhere out there for me apparently oh really with your name on it yeah somebody's surfing i don't want it where do you put that but i hope you get one i i'm that would be amazing yeah thank you that's fun i was not expecting that at all i actually am nominated for two and i just can't i'm like what like it's awesome what are the categories uh i'm i'm nominated for choice summer female artist and um choice collaboration with nile for what a time oh yeah all right we're We're going to get into Niall in a second, but first we need to talk about Shawn Mendes. Yeah, we need to talk about Shawn.

It is like everyone I know, whether they're gay or straight or old like us or young, they love that Shawn, and I know you toured with him, so tell us something nasty about him so that we can all get over it. No, I don't want to get over him. We feel a little inappropriate loving him so much because he's so young, and we're like, we would all have sex with him right now. But he's four, so it's weird. He's an old soul, though.

Oh, God, he is? I love him more. No, that's not what we need. When you talk to him, you're not talking to, like, a 21-year-old boy. You're talking to, like, a 21-year-old man. Does he smell bad? Like, what's the catch? Does he litter?

You know, like, someone that's just like, I'll just throw my gum wrapper. Who is that? I saw somebody do that today. I don't know anyone who litter. People definitely litter. I saw somebody in a stopped car today throw a can out of her. That's a garbage human. Yeah.

Wow. Garbage human. It is a garbage human. No. Okay. He's great. Yeah. I don't really have anything bad to say about it.

He's really funny and fun and outgoing and like, like I got to work with him in the studio and he's just, he loves to create, like we'll finish a song and then he'll want to start another one right away. Cause he's just like, so I can see that music. And I think we did three songs in two days and yeah. And then two songs ended up on the record and it was just,

he's just amazing. Yeah. He's amazing. do you come from a musical family no i don't um my mom when we were kids used to take us to karaoke my sister and i oh my god she could drink and you could and then we could sing oh my god yeah my dad would play darts my mom would drink and then we would just sing all night like just all night long that's so i love your makeup too but we she looks very beautiful yeah And did you notice she's wearing my dream shoes?

The Balenciaga dad shoes? Are these your dream shoes? They are, but I am not rich to afford them, but one day. Okay. Then I will not tell you how many pairs of these I get you. I have. Oh, my God. What size are you?

She's worked very hard. If you wrote hit songs, you too could wear Balenciaga sneakers. If you toured with Pink, you could also wear Balenciaga sneakers. I saw you. You were so good. Oh, thank you so much. What did you learn from being on tour with her? because she's like oh she's the dream the dream is oh my god that woman runs her ship man like

everything goes through her which i love yeah i love a bad bitch in charge um she i mean she's amazing she's like what every female artist strives for she's what every artist strives for she's doing arenas and stadiums and like and doing it the way she wants to do it right you know also i don't know how she flips around in the air while singing perfectly there's no harnesses there's no nothing i'm just like how are you not dying this is unbelievable i love her so much amazing it was so crazy but you were so great and you really and it's got to be cool now too that like you've been at this for a minute and now everyone does know all your songs not just the one on the here on the radio and everyone's singing back and there's people that came to

tables just to see you like that's it's gotta feel good it does feel good you know we did our first headline tour this year um we were actually doing it in between the pink shows so like on her days off we were doing our own shows damn we did 58 shows in three months holy cow it was a lot but it was the first time we got to like actually experience our own fans and we ended up like selling out quite a few of them which was amazing and um you know just a whole room of like-minded people that want to just scream and dance and cry and like have these beautiful experiences with you and it's just it was just amazing it was amazing now is dating hard for you because they know that like are you single right now i am okay are you do you want us to set you up with

someone oh my god i don't think who the hell would you set her up with she doesn't need help i see a lot of celebrities all the time it's got to be a celebrity you're young you have got please who's your celebrity crush tom holland so cute spider-man oh cute and wears nice shoes i don't know if i i think i kind of want to date someone outside no you should what is your type yeah bad wait would you would you date like another like singer creative like you or is that too much um i've done that and i would i probably would not do that yeah it seems like could be a lot yeah yeah um did you write songs about each other what about an actor falling for boys um oh what about actor oh i don't know like a brooklyn for me it's all about like

it's personality for me like i have to really click with somebody well we don't know anyone in hollywood with a good personality so you're just great everybody in hollywood's an asshole la la is kind of shitty for dating i'm not even gonna lie horrible like it's horrible what about one of those guys like the singer from 1975 or like one of those cute like band guys i think i want someone that's like not even like like affiliated with music what about like an athlete well an athlete but athletes are hot you know you need to like hook up with an athlete and that could be good i think an athlete yeah because an athlete will be like oh maybe like like so out of your like public comfort who has

the shortest season in like a sport what about like an x games guy like a snowboarder a snowboarder that like goes to the olympics i could do that goes to the olympics is sponsored by nike but also like isn't like on the road 52 weeks a year yeah right except for they are i'm on but i'm also on the road which makes it extremely hard because then the minute you start something with someone you're like oh i have to leave for three months right and then you're like texting every day and then the texting goes from three times a week to twice a week and then never you need like somebody that's developed an app that is like yes let's go yeah a tech guy and then he can come on tour with you or he can like travel wherever he wants yes work from his laptop or someone that was like

a championship ice skater and already hit that ice skater but like you know how you know how well you know how a rod was like a big deal but now his time has passed and he's like following around j-lo you need like a retired but you're too young to get a retire anyway how old are you 25 okay yeah i like a tech guy i think the tech or spend five more years having fun have sex with everyone anyone have safe sex with everyone you know you shouldn't have a boyfriend under 30 that's like my that's my new thing i like that like oh god especially you the heartbreak is awful it's awful have you dated guys that are like uh foreign that are like foreign no like like because you're touring right so like have you had an italian love affair um no you should

that's my biggest regret in life not yet like i want someone to be like oh i am so i want to feel more differently like accents after a while are the absolute worst i don't care who you are like that to me is a nightmare oh i love it let's eat the baguette i thought this is like her like um it's my crisis though because she keeps talking about it all the time okay next question we just out on a real tangent big sorry i love it we're gonna romanticize we live vicariously through yeah we're gonna sexual endeavors yes and any guy that we meet at the grocery store we're gonna be like but we got a new guy we found this guy named tank he lives with his mom um okay so we have uh speaking of dating we have a game that we play on the lady gang called desert island dick which

is essentially like the last dick he would like to be on an island with but i thought for you um we would play the songwriter edition okay which for for the three of us old ladies it will be the people you want to be on the island with like to for you we're going to keep it clean and yours will be songwriter edition who do you want to be and you have to write all of your songs with this person for the rest of your life for the rest of the island yeah okay okay here we go she's giving you options i'm giving you the options based on your life already okay and it So for a lady gang, it's who we're going to bone forever for you, who you're going to write songs with forever. Because we're horny old ladies.

Yes. Well, I didn't want to make it awkward because some of these people are married. Okay. And you'll probably work with them. And you'll work with them. You've probably written them songs. Okay. So the four choices for today's Desert Island Dick Songwriter Edition are Adam Levine, because you toured with Maroon 5.

Yes. Sean Tightpants Mendez. Keith Urban, who you also toured with. Oh, man. And Nahoran from One Direction. It's just so easy. Sean. Why don't you put Sean in a category?

It's always Sean. Well, I was actually hoping there'd be somebody better than Sean, but none of them were better. Who's better than Sean? I mean, he's not age-appropriate for us. He's not. But there's no age-appropriate person. He definitely doesn't know how to find the clitoris yet. Because men don't do that until, wait, 35.

Yeah, so he has to teach them that when they're, like, 40. They need a license. He's too young for a clitoris, for sure. Keith Urban, though? you know honestly if i had to pick yeah i would i would pick either adam or niall because i'm really close with both of them like i still talk to adam like all the time and now he's one of my best friends so could you date now he's dating someone i know i think it's too close like we're like it's like a camilla yeah he's like a bro like he's like my homie like i don't i just like

i don't look at him and think he's in love with you for sure your problem is you know everybody already yeah like you know all these people so there isn't like a good thing because you can't be fooled yeah that's true yeah maybe she can't be fooled have you heard her records she's a big fool she's only been fooled i literally am always fooled it's okay you're still young you can be yeah i i hope i don't keep the pattern yeah exactly well all right well i'm gonna pick sean too because he's tall and i'm not a big fan of adam levine's hotness like his hotness is not my hotness yeah he's not my type of hotness keith urban i feel like there must be something special about him because nicole kidman is like smitten kitten yes that he's not a scientologist he's

probably the most like gentleman like gentleman i've ever met he looks so nice he does he looks like a nice person he's i honestly don't think he's human like maybe that's it no truly like will send me flowers like if we're like doing a music video he'll have flowers on in the dressing room for me like i i uh i bought a house last march and he i was on tour when i came home he had gotten me literally an upright piano what and it's in my living room oh my god yeah like he's like talk about the sneakers i know like literally he's like the most wonderful human on the planet yeah you can tell though yeah because you know what he is shorter than nicole kidman but he doesn't give off insecure short guy vibes he has no ego he's right there's something

about him which would be amazing on an on a deserted island that's true but you didn't choose him yeah no but he wasn't even in your final two no he wasn't mostly i you know i think because niall and i have like such similar personalities like we're both super stupid and goofy that like if if i had to be on an island with someone i think a personality yeah like someone i would just be like super silly with yeah because you're gonna have to dig a hole and poop in a hole around someone that's gonna make a fun poop yes exactly you'd actually probably get annoyed at keith because he's so nice and he's the only person you're talking to i dug you this giant hole for your poop

last question um you are very popular in hollywood i've seen you at award shows everyone wants to be your friend because they know you're going to write them a hit song but also you're cool i want to know who your ride and die in hollywood is and then who is your ride and die that no one has ever heard it's ride or die ride and die down to fun kelsey thought that dtf meant down to fun that's amazing wow Did you see the billboards in L.A. that stole our DTF? Down to Farmer's Market? Yes.

And I'm like. I don't think they stole that. Anyway, okay. Who's your ride and die? Ride and die in Hollywood. Who's your ride or die? Is it Niall? He would probably be one of them.

I think my ride or die would probably be Selena. I love you guys are tight. I've never heard anything bad about her. I know. And you never will. Yeah, that's how you know. It's kind of like she's, like, actually a nice person. She's incredible.

Like, I mean, she, I had my first number one record with her, my first platinum record with her. Oh, my God. Like, literally, I mean, I probably wouldn't be here right now, like, if it weren't for her belief in me, truly. Wow. Wait, I have a question. What's the first song that you wrote that you sold to somebody?

um well i guess the first the first one one uh will probably be good for you really yeah because after that oh and that was good for her too it was very good for her magical for her career i mean i i i literally i owe so much to that woman i really do she's um she's a magical unicorn she really is love it who's your ride and die who's your ride or die out of hollywood like who's your do you have a friend like you grew up with or is it like family or yeah i have a lot of i don't know that's that's that's a lot i don't have a lot i have like three ride or dies and they're just like my closest friends i've known them for like five years um like i'm i'm okay i'm taking my first vacation ever oh this august oh where are you going i'm

going to Turks and Caicos oh it's so good there I've never been yeah you're gonna love it and I really want to go and I I'm inviting literally like four of my best friends including this and um we're gonna literally just go be horizontal for six days yeah and I just like yeah I just like want them to be with me and like have a good time and relax and that's so nice yeah don't worry about the boys because girlfriends are the best girlfriends are the best yeah like i also my favorite thing about having girlfriends is no matter how like upset you are at your boyfriend they are always more upset oh yeah that's your boyfriend yeah they'll kill him yes i don't even really know you i'll kill him well the right girlfriend the right girlfriend yeah yeah i

literally to turn i'm sorry the wrong girlfriends will be like yes the wrong girlfriends will be him yeah yep all right well when we come back julia's gonna fix your life ask the lady gang and we're back um so for this part of the podcast we have our girls writing questions okay some advice fun all right first question dear lady gang how do i tell my friend to stop wasting her time on this boy who doesn't want to be with her he's the typical quote don't want to commit but wants to sleep with her type and she even knows he's no good her exact quote was i'm already hurt and dug this deep i might as well continue jesus oh my god she just turned 27 and i know she thinks she's old and is feeling the pressure to settle down but i don't

want her to wake up one day and realize she's wasted her 20s on this tool do i say something or do i let her learn from her own mistakes what do you think um well one you're 27 like you don't like don't even still young yeah you're so young well the eggs are beginning to dry up no they're not they don't have a 30 no 28 right you're good before 35 yeah all right stop making me scared yeah fear monger well you are actually starting to okay no 27 you're young yeah and i don't know i think it just it depends on what you want if you if you want to have something casual and you want to like just keep messing around with somebody then like that's one thing if you want to have like an actual relationship with somebody then you should see the signs yeah that

this is just like not like people don't change the stripes don't change like they just don't and if you go if you're gonna be a girl back to the boy then you're good you're good have some feelings right 27 is too old to be dealing with a boy that's like treating you like shit but the friend's question is do i say something and the thing is is that you can't really tell your friends that their guys are dicks they kind of have to realize it for themselves yeah yeah because she's just colored glasses yeah you know that whole thing yeah but there is nothing more annoying than if you do have a friend like that and they are getting hurt yeah and they keep complaining about it i was just gonna say like some people like to do that though yeah like that

like they like the pain of being in this like weird vicious circle of a situation and they like to complain about it yeah like clearly you're not trying to find a solution so okay they thrive on the drama yeah they do masochism well i will say when you end up with someone who's just lovely and nice you have to find drama in other places in your life you know what i mean like you can't be drama free in your life right you have to like watch so much bachelor i guess i'm gonna scream with the tv instead of like screaming at my boyfriend exactly you know like you got to replace it with something you do it's like too boring it's just too boring when you're in a good relationship okay second question how do you get over a guy especially one who continues to screw

around with your emotion and then so this kind of sounds like the same story send mixed signals he'll text me then ghost me but whenever we see each other he'll continue to flirt with me fast forward to new year's eve he kissed me multiple times but told a few of our friends that nothing happened seems like a liar i know he doesn't like me but i just can't seem to get over and please help so he's like doing two different things at once being like super contradictory yeah like lying about how he kissed her any dude that's not bragging so much that he kissed you yeah not your dude not your dude no i agree have you kissed me it's amazing so he should feel that way too

the best kiss of your life he should be like do you know what just happened upstairs in the hallway he should be posting about it on instagram telling his mom about it give him an award give him an award bring you a fucking trophy

if it's not notebook you're out you know girl that was an easy question I've been dating this guy for a couple months now he's great, caring, and really respectful too respectful question is how can I get him to be a little more rough in bed anytime we do something quote-unquote different he'll stop rearrange and tell me no easy on myself I don't

want to know the problem it's not that I'm super kinky but I'm so over vanilla sex it's not even funny what's your advice on talking about it with wait hold on repeat that he'll he'll recalibrate What did she say? What? Anytime we do something different, he'll stop, rearrange, and tell me to take it easy on myself. So maybe she tries to do a new position. He's like, no, no, no. Missionary.

Wait, Becca saw the funniest meme the other day about sex. What? Oh, my gosh. Where it's like boys bending me all kinds of crazy ways. And I'm like, stop. I might fart. It's like, settle. You need to settle down or I'm going to fart.

like my legs are the butthole is too open in this position yeah you know what i i have really good advice for this i think it's probably horrible okay you should go to urban outfitters and you should get that position of the day book of the karma sutra and then you should be like i have a fun thing for us we can do a new position every day and then it will be like you can be in the weird pretzel and it will be like on purpose and he won't need to like rearrange right back i think she's more like needing a little more aggression yeah yeah yeah it's also about him like there's obviously something in him that's like holding him back or something that's like not kosher in his mind yeah but like he she needs to like figure out and break apart so that way

that he can like feel comfortable to do those things he probably just doesn't enjoy beating women so probably you have a good guy yeah congratulations congrats yes but yeah you gotta like more trophies yeah i think you just have to be like you know i don't know you could i mean it's so awkward talking about sex but i feel like in this kind of a situation like maybe you have to just have a conversation like get drunk and have a conversation about it or get drunk and and then yeah you know what i love baby yeah when you push me around yes take his hand and put it on your throat yeah and hold it there and don't let him take it away don't let him rearrange they're rearranging you can just like really see it that's such a visual thing i can see him literally be

like oh can i turn the lights back on and uh let me just put my socks back on before we finish feet are cold okay well good luck good um listen you're so lovely oh thank you uh thank you for being here if you want to follow you're probably already following her but if you want to follow follow julia just follow julia michaels it's very easy inner monologue part two is out but part one is equally as great so get them both go supporter go buy the music on the itunes don't just stream it a million times and wait are you are you selling tickets where what else can we have them support you in are you going on your touring more i am i leave in september and i go to australia We have lots of Australian fans.

And back to, I come back to the U.S. Fun. And then I get to Mexico and Canada. Yay. Oh, girl. You're everywhere. I'm everywhere. Can we borrow your tour bus when you're done?

Three months. Hell yeah. Can I borrow a pair of sneakers? That's amazing. All right. You're so lovely. Don't fall for boys when you think they're men. Get the men, ladies.

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