LadyGang - Just US: Drugs, Vagina Scoops + Calling Out the Grifters

Episode Date: April 21, 2026

Ladygang we have horrible news, apparently we were supposed to be "scooping" out our periods this whole time. Plus, a Becca rant about group photos, and her realization that THIS WHOLE TIME what she thought was a beta blocker was a.... (OMG!) In this epiosde we have the longest good week bad week ever and girl chat just us! We have spring deals for YOU!Hers: Ready to reach your goals? Visit ForHers.com/ladygang for personalized, affordable care that gets YOU.Clean Simple Eats: Shop the best tasting protein powders at CleanSimpleEats.comSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Well, what is this? Welcome to the Lady Gang. That's amazing. Say that again. The Lady Gang. Things are about to change around here. Each week, we catch up with Hollywood's hottest girl posse, Kelty Knight, Becca Tobin, and Jack Vanek.

Hello, hello, hello. Welcome to the Lady Gang. I'm Becca Tobin here with Jack Vanek and Kelty Knight. Hello. Hi, ladies. Good morning. Jacqueline, are you wearing a floral sweatsuit? I am a little matching pant. What? Abercrombie. They have the best sweats ever. You do love my

lounge clothes. Abercrombie sweats. It's so funny, like getting older. I'm like, I shop at all the same stores I did in high school. Abercrombie, Hollister, PacSun, Urban. You're not shopping at Urban Outfitters. When I go into Urban Outfitters, the material feels like it's going to fall apart once it hits water. And I can't. And I was like, I can't believe how much money I spent at Urban Outfitters back in the day. Well, I don't actually go shopping there in person, but like every once in a while they have a good, it's all lounge clothes, but I don't know where else to shop for lounge clothes that aren't. Aerie has the best lounge clothes in the world. Wow. Get her a sponsorship. Come on. I wish. I spend so much money there. And pajamas.

I'm like kind of phasing the sweats out of my life or trying. What are you wearing instead? I mean, as I wear, I'm wearing a hoodie right now, but I haven't bought any new sweats as tempted as I have been because I think every time I go to buy them that it's going to be like, oh, this is going to be great for the airport. I'm going to look airport chic, but then it ends up looking so chlubby. And it's because you can wear it one time and then before you wash it, but then you wash it and then it looks like pajamas. I had a real mental breakdown about leggings, which I'm also wearing leggings right now as my lower half. But I was in the airport.

This really happened. I'm in the airport and I'm working away and I look up and I see like my doppelganger and it's everything. Doppel or choppel? It was my doppel. Thank you so much. My doppelganger of like everything I had. She had the New Balance sneakers. She had the black legging she had the oversized sweatshirt with a jean oversized jean jacket on top like like she was me you know um and I looked at her and I was like god what a old millennial trying to be cool looks like like it's this girl and then I looked down and I was like oh my god I'm wearing the same thing and then I realized like are our leggings choogy like I think they are because nobody's wearing a tight pant anymore, but I love to travel in a legging. And so then on the way back from

Mexico, I wore a jean. Like, who am I? I felt fine. I was wearing a big barrel jean. Very comfortable. Nice to have a pocket. I'm not going to lie because you can put all your snacks in your pockets as you're getting on the plane. But I don't know what to wear. Well, I think that if you're going from L.A. to Cancun or Cabo or wherever you're going, like a five second flight, jeans are absolutely fine. You know, if you're if you're flying in the middle of the day and it's an under three hour flight, I think that it is criminal to be in pajamas or anything that resembles pajamas because. Not me. Not me. Well, that's just I feel like, guys, we can do it. We could put on a hard pant. No, but here's half the reason why. Well, no, just a part of the reason

why I fly in sweats is because I want a pair of sweats when I'm traveling. Yeah. And they're so bulky that I don't want to pack them. So I'm wearing the most bulky thing. So it's like a double duty. But here's my question. Devil's advocate. No, this is a question that I have because I have the same thing going through my head. But then I travel in those sweats. I get to my destination and I don't want to put them on again unless they're washed. Dirty. I only wear them like if i'm going to get coffee in the morning before i shower like i wear them when i am dirty okay you know but you have a different routine where this actually does work for you yes and i will say i found a secret so you remember space bags do you remember like the

infomercial that people like yeah the space bag and you it was like a giant ziploc that had a hole in it and you rolled it up and you released the air and then it stuck well space bags have got a facelift because I have been looking for an answer for Chris Knight because his clothes are so big and he travels and he's wanting to just have a carry on. I'm like, you can't fit this man, like a pant and one pair of shoes. His shoe is a 13. It takes up the whole side. So I found on Amazon these great, like they look like a packing cube and it has, it's black. It has the little opening on it and it comes with a little air sucker filter. Have you seen these? oh this is not new information jack is but not impressed and then it happens when i

you just can't use them on on checked bags because then your bag is going to weigh 100 pounds right because then you can do more shit but if you're flying in business class they'll give you up to 70 pounds but here those space bags i think are good in theory but then when i go and like store stuff in my house I have found that I can fit the same amount of things that I can't with both without with and without the space bag because the space bag makes clothes in this like hard it's like a it becomes a book like a coffee table book whereas when it's just clothes it's like you can smush them around and maneuver them and get them in little nooks and crannies so I don't know if this is so much a space save if I don't know I don't like it and then it makes all

your clothes so wrinkled. So wrinkled. Okay. Well, listen. But I love that for you. Thank you so much. Chris Knight is happy with it. He was very thrilled. Oh, good. Good, good. All right. Let's jump into, it's time for... Good week. Yes, it is. Bad week. Oh, no. I'll go first. Okay. So I get so much shit from my friends when we're on vacation or we're doing something fun and somebody stops to take a picture or wants to take pictures and all the pictures and all the pictures. And I've always said, I don't know what it is. I just feel like it, it stops the energy in the moment. Like we're having a great time. And then we have to like go and like stand in a row on the beach. And, you know, it just kind of like, it cuts off that fun vibe. Right. And it just,

it's annoying. And Tamsyn was on our podcast recently and I went to her Facebook or her Instagram page just to see like all the things she's doing. And she was talking to this guy and he he's a Harvard professor and he talks about why taking pictures on vacation. He's a happiness expert. Why? You lower the meaning that you, that you feel in the moment by 16% when you take a picture. And so the solution is you assign one person per day to take a photo and you send this to the people you're going on vacation with to see and to try it out. So there's one designated person. There's one moment for the picture. We're not passing around phones, blah, blah, blah. But I'll play his justification for this. And I, I feel like this was my instinct.

...that you feel... Hold on. ...lower the meaning that you feel on your vacation by 16% by taking pictures. Really? Yeah, yeah, totally. So do you not... How does he know that? You don't think you should take pictures on vacation?

I recommend... Yeah, I recommend that one person be assigned to take pictures on your vacation each day. One person do it. One person per day. And that nobody else gets to take any pictures the whole day. And it makes a big difference. Big difference. Yeah, because if you're looking through the screen to take a picture of the thing that's

right in front of you so that somebody else can enjoy it, maybe you in two years... Guess what you've done? You've turned your experience into a simulation of the experience. Oh my God. You've turned a right brain experience of beauty into a left brain simulation of the beauty that you thought you once were experiencing, but not.

The lower meaning. Right? Unfortunately, this is just how our whole world is. What do you mean? Our simulation? Yeah. I mean, well, yes, we are in a simulation. But just like with everything,

it's like you can't experience anything with the beauty that it is because everything is always going back to like capturing it the internet and right but it doesn't have to is what he's saying yeah but then one person's still doing it so that person doesn't get to live in the happiness well i don't know i'm not sure that's a great question i'm sure there's just one person that can't help themselves you know because of all my friends i know if i give this message to all of my friends one of them is going to still demand that she take pictures And then that's going to be, hey, you do the picture person.

I think it's different. Like, it's different if it's like one person that like takes pictures all of the time of everything and like wants to take selfies of like the whole entire day. I think you can take one picture in the day. I have a K-type solution I have just devised. OK, so it's like a meet in the middle. But here's the thing. I prefer I like an outfit picture because I like to remember how much work went into looking hot because so much of it is fraggle rock. right? So like, I think before we leave for the thing, Chris Knight takes a photo, but then I

agree. And I actually, in my later stage of life, I'm not enjoying a, everyone's we're going to a dinner. Everyone stand. Yeah. Um, and like take the picture. Those pictures are not the ones that I'm really joyful about. The pictures I'm joyful are of like the other day I was at, I'm so bougie now guys i was at the beverly hills hotel and my girlfriend was in town and her she's a granddaughter now which is crazy um from her husband's stepkids and they saw the granddaughter for the first time in like a while and she was holding and i just started snapping pictures because this is not a moment for me this is a moment for her yeah and then when i left i sent her like the 20 photos and it wasn't her posing like trying to get the baby to look over here it was just her

loving this child and they were the cutest pictures. So I think if you have someone like that, it's like someone to take the pictures of it actually happening. Then those end up being my favorite photos anyway. But I, I disagree with you, Becca, because when I was in Mexico doing water aerobics, if I wanted a video of it, I wanted a photo. It gave me more joy to look at Chris Knight's arms flopping around later. Yeah. I will say as somebody with a really bad memory. I love taking photos because I also if I'm in the moment and I'm out like, you know, doing stuff, I actually forget to do anything, which is good because I'm like living in the moment. I'm like drinking and I'm like, I forgot. But like, I like the idea. And especially

because I don't see my friends that often, like at least capturing that because we don't get together that often. I have one friend that's been doing this that does the thing where it's like, OK, before we go out, let's take a picture. Right. Just we have like one picture together because we have forgotten. Like I barely have pictures with my best friends. Yeah, it's just like, get it done. And then I didn't take another picture or video the entire day.

But isn't it crazy? Because there also is this thing. Sorry, Becca. We're not trying to tell you. No, I don't care. No, listen, it's preference. It's just supporting. All I'm saying is this is supporting why.

So my friends thought I was just being a pain in the ass and an asshole. No, you were like, I want happiness. I'm like, no. I want to be 16% happier than you. Yeah, because I'll let you go on, Kelty. but it's, here's a perfect example. And this is why we go to Cabo on a girl's trip. We all go back to our rooms to get ready for the dinner. And so I'm so excited to get ready. And then

finally walk outside in this beautiful view and sit with my friends and have like a cocktail before we go to dinner. But instead there's a tripod set up and there's a TikTok talk dance being taught. So I'm sitting there. That's different. But this is the extreme version. But like, but even if it's like, Hey, let's get a group picture of all this. I'm like, no, I'd rather have 10 extra minutes to sit here and drink a margarita and talk to you guys and enjoy the view in my, with my eyes. So it breaks up my flow. Your flow is off. Yes. Kelty, sorry, go on. A flow is off. I can't remember what I was. Oh, sorry. Did you ever read the thing where people like, so my very best friend in the world, Katie and I, we have like four pictures together

our whole life. Like when we're together, we're, it's exactly that. We're so zoned in that I forget to take pictures like I forget to take pictures when I'm hanging with my mom because I'm just like visiting with my mom and then I'll go back I'm like I don't have I literally don't have any pictures of me and my parents like because I never take a picture with them because I'm just zoned in but then I have a hundred pictures of like us I have more pictures of us than I do of it anyway love you guys okay what's your that's bad that's okay that was that was my good week. So I have, I've been in a big organization mode. I mean, my whole life is organizing things in drawers and whatever. And I went to go on this very top shelf of my bathroom

kind of closet cabinet situation and I pull down the pharmaceuticals, right? So anything, whatever, beta blockers, Xanax for travel, blah, blah, blah, whatever. And some extra amoxicillin in case the world ends. You never know. Keep all of your prescriptions people. So I had this one travel bottle that I always take with me when I travel because it has beta blockers in it. Because if I, this is more for a couple of years ago, it doesn't really happen anymore. But if I was on vacation or if I was traveling and I had to do an audition or put something or zoom with a producer or whatever that pops up within like a day's notice. So I need beta blockers to a lot of the time, like make me less nervous. So I'm organizing this pill thing and there's like some Advil, my beta blockers

and like one is cut in half because sometimes I have them. And I was like, you know what? I need to just separate these and label them. And so I started taking pictures of the pills to like confirm what everything was, right? I have been taking what I thought was a beta blocker has been a Klonopin. Oh, my God. Wait, what's a Klonopin? Like heavy duty. Yeah. Like, I don't know. I don't even know how I have this in my possession. I have I have no idea. The only thing I can think of is that I did at one point ask a friend if she had extra beta walkers. And I think she actually gave me her Klonopin. Klonopin sets you up. I was thinking back on it. Before the audition, you're getting high as a kite. Yeah. And I remember. Now we know

the problem. Now we know the problem. I remember the last time I did an audition, I had like a producer session on Zoom and I took half. And I remember I finished and I fell asleep for like three hours. And I thought it was because my adrenaline was so high and my nerves were so high and then I was just so tired. Oh, my God. I drugged myself. Oh, my eyes had to have been soulless and dead in that audition. There's no other face. I mean, it's so great. You're so tiny. Like even a half Klonopin is one half too many Klonopin. I it was wild that it took me this long and that I, it's also scary that I took it and didn't realize like a major problem.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so there we go. That's a lesson learned. Such a good nap. It was the hardest I've ever slept. It was so strange. And now it's like, yeah, so. Oh my God.

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Now back to the Lady Gang. My good week is I have finally hit my goal of having a thousand followers, a thousand subscribers on my mail club. Yay. I actually am up to like 1,100. And guess who finally joined? Kelty. Miss Kelty Knight.

I saw I was printing my envelopes last night and I was like oh she did it yeah I told you I had my I couldn't use my credit card oh yeah but it did take me two months well at first I have to be honest at first I was like this isn't for me because the mail really stresses me out like I am the opposite that's the point of how of the mail club well this is the thing but you won me over when you're posting all the cutie newties about it because I was like I I really hate opening the mail and I it's like another to do thing and the thought process of like getting something in the mail deciding what to do with it and then throw like keeping what I want like all of it was just too many things and then I kept seeing all the cutie patootie things and I was

like oh I'm sold so you know you can always cancel I'm not gonna cancel I also thought It's kind of offensive after her first month if she cancels. I'm like, actually, this was stressful. It is so funny because all of my friends are subscribed to it. And I'm like, and I can obviously see when people cancel. And I'm like, this will be interesting. Yeah. I'd rather just Venmo you $100 a year so you don't have to worry about sending me anything in the mail.

I mean, that also works. Just to support you. Send it on over. I'll do that. Yeah. Okay. Well, congratulations. Thank you.

Are you doing commission work? Because I'm just going to let you know that I have an old wall here that I would like that little cowboy on. Which one? I don't know. You post all these beautiful pieces of art and then like, you don't tell us how we can buy the art. Well, this is my problem is I'm trying to figure out how to do that. Like, how do I ship a four foot painting across the country? You put it in styrofoam and you go for it.

I know. I mean, I have so many logistics I have to figure out. This has really taken over my life. My mail club has taken over my life that I have like no time to do anything else. But that's like my next big goal is to be able to like figure out how to pack and ship and sell my original art because it is stacking up. But you know what? I sent you I sent you a link of an online company that does it and you send all your art to them and then they'll sell it for you. Oh, really?

But you still have to send the art to them. Yeah. Well, those were original. I guess those were prints. Is it a thing where you can like paint on the canvas and then take the canvas off the frame, roll it and send it like that? They have like unstretched canvases that I think I want to start doing because then, yeah, you can roll it and it's like way cheaper and less fragile to ship. But if you make me an art, I'll drive to the OC and pick it up. I'll see your house.

Oh. And then I'll get my art. Yeah. All right. Yeah. And I'll stop at the outlets. Oh, wait. The San Clemente ones?

Yeah. Oh, hell yeah. That's good. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah, I'll make a commission for you. You just let me know what you want. Thank you.

What if I'm like, I want me? I was thinking that. Just a portrait of me. Okay, my bad week is a TikTok and I have to play it because I was going to try to paraphrase it and it's just not working. Okay. Okay.

You just told me that she is not a scooper and we need to discuss because I thought every single woman was a scooper and I'm a little shocked that she is not. And I need to know if everyone else is. And this is exactly the type of conversation I came out of TikTok retirement to have. She sent me a video about a woman that was getting her pap and she happened to be on her period at the same time. And the gynecologist scooped everything out. And I said to my friend, I'm like, you don't scoop. and she was like, wait, what? I was like, literally when it is that time of the month,

I get into the shower and I scoop as much out as I can as possible because I don't want to deal with it. And to me, it's just easier to reach up in there and scoop out as much as I can. And I do it every morning during that time of the month. And then I barely have any sort of residual action throughout the day. And I highly recommend this. Okay. So then she just goes on to explain why she does this. I am so confused here. How, with what are we doing this? I can't get this visual and I wish she didn't call it scooping. You know what I mean? Scooping is the wrong word. That's the grossest. It makes me think of like fingernails and it really grosses me out. Well, yeah. The comments are so funny. It's like, you're in fact the only one that does this.

And they're like, scoop from where? Scoop from where? But is she wrong? I get it. But isn't it way up there? It's not. This is the thing I learned during my histo. It's not as big as you think it is. No, I know the cervix is only, like, three inches long, which is why when people are, like, when you're having sex with a guy, it's, like, not actually going that far up there. But you're not going into your cervix. This is just in your uterus. You can't go into your cervix. I mean, you can.

It's like when they put an IUD up there. That's what they're doing is they're opening and putting in your cervix. But how? Is she scooping? Like, she can't reach into your uterus. In her vaginal canal? Yeah, you can. You can.

As far as a penis can go in there. Yes, that's where a penis. A penis doesn't go in your vagina. But like the vagina. In your vaginal canal. Canal. Yes. Your vaginal canal.

But like that's not where all the blood is held. No, your uterus is above your cervix. Yes. So it's uterus, cervix. You can't get to your uterus. Vagina is what I'm saying. Correct. You should get up there.

She's going. But I get, okay, it's not like you're scooping the melon of your uterus out. you're just going in the causeway of your vagina and making, cleaning that out so that you get less residual. I'm not mad at that. Honestly, wait, is our product that we'd never developed a uterus scoop? No, no. It's like, you know, you get that little thing at home. Oh, like a little spoon? You know, like the straw, the cleaner to get the straw, it's like a little spoolie on a thing. What if you get that for your vagina and you just I mean, listen, I wish that you could do that.

I would. Yeah. I'm not mad at that idea. My period doesn't actually come out of my body unless I am peeing. What? Well, I get like blood clots when I'm peeing. Yeah. But I don't leak.

I don't wear tampons or anything. I hate you. I hate you with fucking every inch of my being. Has it always been that way or just during perimenopause? Well, first of all, I'm not in perimenopause yet. Oh, cool. I, um, I, it's been like this, it's been like this for probably more than 10 years. But you have the IUD.

No, I used to, but I haven't had my IUD. But even after it was out? I, I barely believe. Don't say that out loud to anyone else. Actually, we're going to have to take that out. I mean, I had to pay someone $100,000 to carry my baby. I think I can have this, you know? Yeah, you're right. You know what? That's true. That's fair.

So you'll never have to scoop. I, however, could scoop. Honestly, you could scoop with a double hand. We could put both hands up. I could scoop a whole entire Venti Starbucks coffee worth of blood out of my body. But yes, I don't know from where and with what is really the question. I think it sounds dangerous. Yeah. Yeah.

You're going to like damage your vagina. I used to, I had a period of time where I was having sex with this guy where every time I had sex with him, I would bleed like I was on my period, but I was not. And it turns out because sometimes if you're having sex, it can create like little lesions inside your vagina. And those are very hard to stop from bleeding. So our scooper would probably cause a lot of injury to that area if a penis can. That's true. And a penis is smooth for the most part.

Exactly. Just another bad idea from the lady gang. I don't know who's scooping. Lady gang, please tell us who's scooping. I truly think it's literally only that girl. I hope so. We'll see. You know, this is why I'll never have a good TikTok, because I'm just like talking about real life.

You're listening to The Lady Gang. My good week is that yesterday, out of the blue, I got an email from my publisher that Target has pre-ordered 15,000 copies of my book. Wait, does that count towards your pre-sales? Well, then there was confusion because my agent and my book guru said no, because they actually had to change the cover. So they are doing like, you know how remember when we did Barnes and Noble for Lady Act Like a Lady, we did like an exclusive. so target wants an exclusive and they want to change the cover so that it's f star star star instead of fuck on the cover and then they want to do the pages like either glitter or like the color of the outside so it's like an exclusive edition and I my team was like well that doesn't count because it's a different ISBN or whatever but then the publisher was like it absolutely

counts and we'll order them through book scan like it'll be fine anyway here's the thing I will say is that my whole life and everything we've done and you guys can attest to this is like begging people to work with us like everything we have done in 10 years like i cannot explain enough was like please please please please please please please please do this do this do this like to get a random email at 4 p.m that's like a success point is just so unlike the vibe of my life. It's like, please let me, you know, so that was like so delicious. My bad week is that as you guys know, I like to have an enemy at all times. Like one enemy, nobody knows about it except you. It's healthy to have. I like, I live for an enemy. Unfortunately, I have made my enemy Amanda

Francis from Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. I have never, I've never met this woman. I know nothing about her but like for some reason I watched one thing of her on TikTok or Instagram and now I'm and I completed it so the video now they they think I want this content this bitch put out a f***ing Instagram video about why the New York Times is a lie like the New York Times book list and because she didn't make it well yeah and she was like basically um the new york times is oh god what did she say it was something like um the new york times you have to like buy your way on and gaga gaga and she like says this whole thing of like why it's not real and why it's not actually doesn't actually have anything to do with like the book sales and then she's like

So it doesn't matter. And I was an Amazon bestseller. And I was like, first of all, she's not 100 percent wrong. The New York Times list is an editorial list, which is I've talked about this before. It is book sales with cultural impact, with press, with our people talking about it. And yes, there are books that sell 4,000 copies that make it to the top of the New York Times because it's a big book. Whereas like the Danielle Steele romance number 575 is not making the list because they just feel like this is not culturally relevant, right?

This is, you know, so yes, it's an editorial list. But I am such a cunt, you guys. I love having an enemy. I commented, now what am I doing with my life? On her, what did you say? I went on her post and I said, Amanda, this is not true. This is a great way to manipulate your audience. Oh, I'm going to the Instagram.

I'll tell you. I'll read exactly what I said. I'm so mad about it. I was like. Did she just post this? She goes, the truth about the New York. Oh, here. I see your comment.

I'll read it. Okay. Wrong. Amazon is an algorithm based site. So you can sell 500 books in a day and make it to the top of the list. there and screenshot and act like it was an overall ranking. This is a great example of you manipulating the story in your favor. If you truly sold that many books, you would have hit the USA Today bestseller list because that is in fact based on real book sales and includes

self-published books. XO, a New York Times and USA bestselling author. She wrote you back. Yes. I know. This is what she said. Amazon, USA Today, and New York Times all measure different things and reward different strategies usa today is based on tracked sales within blah blah blah uh whatever i just published a book a book i received 60 of royalties on because it's self-published my point stands these lists reflect sales whatever that was a stupid reply oh my god kelty you're so funny and then you went and you said this about somebody that like corroborated with you this is incredible she doesn't i was expecting more do you follow her no but she's like i didn't do pre-orders i just published a book i'm like here's the thing i get

why all these bitches in beverly hills are so upset with this woman she is infuriating because she believes her ridiculous her she's me but so much worse she believes her hype and her own rules to such a T and like their gospel to her. I don't even know. I just think she's like a scammer. She's a grifter. She's a grifter. She's like an MLM grifter. Yes. But like she believes it so much that you can't tell her she's a grifter. Like she's like, I just published a book like I. Well, it's a fine line between grifter and just somebody who hustles. You know what I mean? That's what I'm saying. I'm like, am I mad at her hustle? She posted two hours ago pictures of sales on these things.

On what? On her Instagram stories, e-books and paperback, hardcover, Amazon. You can do the math is what it says. Well, she's really trying to sell it to people. Orange and Noble, 18,000 books. she said she sold 85,000 audible 75,000 or no 85,000 I mean she sold a shit ton of books 105,000 hardcover or like actual physical 85,000 audio and 19,000 other real retailers I mean wow she but that's the thing is that you're so who's buying this what's the book about

being an mlm manifesting money we don't need any more of these anyway but this is the annoying thing because i find her so annoying and like but then she's like me and i'm like she's really smart like she is doing it and then i'm just so annoyed by it like what is that anyway buying her bullshit who is her target audience dum-dums no i think that like i listen i she's so annoying on on housewives i want to punch the screen every time she's on it i think what it is is that she is almost like a tony robbins type where yes they make you believe in yourself so much because they themselves have created an empire and they're living proof that this quote way of living reaps all of these rewards and that's not there's no lie there so it's like does she have a rich

husband is she rich no she's totally self-made totally like amazing and you look at her and you're like well maybe i should sell a digital course i would like to have a birkin like that's an mlm but no it's not an mlm because she's not she's not getting girls to then work for her to then sell courses to then work for her but it is weird because a lot of the people that buy the courses are people that want to then make courses yeah no so yes that's that does it but that's not the goal. I mean, that's that would be like our saying that our podcast, teaching people how to do a podcast when we did that, that that was an MLM. No, ours was if you want to learn to do a podcast, we have a handbook for you. But if you want to then take that and make your own and then

teach other people how to do podcasts like we can't control that. We're not right. And we're not getting a course to make a course. She's not getting any money back from those girls that are then going and selling courses on their own. That's the difference. And I think that if she weren't so obnoxious and annoying on the show, then there would be a little bit more, there would be an ability to accept what it is that she's doing a little bit more with a little bit more respect. But the fact is, is she's so annoying on the show and all she talks about is how rich she is. And so that no matter what your business is, I know somebody like that who created a brand here, it has nothing to do with building wealth. It's something that she created, but she's the most

annoying person. All she talks about is how much money she's made from said thing that like you they'd want to go and be like, well, that thing isn't even that cool. But the reality is, is that you're tearing that thing down because that person is so annoying. Yeah. Yeah. It's not the thing. It's the person. Yes. Like Tony Robbins. He doesn't trigger people. He's he's I went to his thing. I'm like, wow, I get it. I mean, I'm not a disciple, but like he's cool. He's doing his thing. He's powerful. He's like commands, you know, your attention and has some really good points, but he's not annoying and he doesn't flaunt his money in your face. So then you're not like he's a grifter. You're like, oh, he's made of empire. He's a prophet. I know this is

and not to say that they don't prey on people. Listen, I think she's also preying on people, which bums me out. But I think that that's just capitalism in general. So you could say that us having 60 second ads in our in our podcast is preying on people. It's just all how you look at it and she's just annoying. And so it all sucks. I think it all comes down to how annoying you are, period. But I'm annoying. Yeah, I know. Exactly the same way. I think the reason that she's my new enemy is that she is me, but she's a richer version. She's more of an evil genius than I am. She evil geniused herself into a twenty five million dollar house and I have only evil genius to myself into Sherman Oaks. You know what I mean? Like she is so annoying, but then

you're like, I got to give it to her. But she's not sitting here saying I'm so annoying the way that you're sitting here saying I'm so annoying. There's no self-awareness with her. No. You're self-deprecating. You're so aware. You're like, I'm shameless. I'm doing X, Y, and Z. I'm shameless. I'm trying so hard. I'm like, you know, I'm, I'm working the system. I'm doing the things like you're so transparent about it that you can't dislike you or not root for you. With her, it's annoying she's acting like she has done something that is like nobel prize worthy when really all she's done is everything that you're doing just pretending it's something better than it is yeah yeah is she off the housewives no she's still on they're never gonna let her go

she's the only like she makes bows is you know bows was like the head of pepsico right like she she is like she makes this woman crumble and it is wild i'm like bows has it's the exact same thing does bows sell courses on something yes and that's the whole thing is that amanda's like what's her courses well bows left corporate america she was like huge ceo of like multiple companies and she left corporate and now she has like a be a badass bitch course the badass workshop yes she does workshop she does everything Amanda's doing but like obviously is maybe not so Amanda it's crazy because Bose will be like you're such a grifter and Amanda's like you're just jealous because your digital course is not selling the way mine is like it's but it's she's right Amanda's right

Amanda is right Bose's course is not selling the way the rich as course is selling like it is kind of crazy the shade that Bose gives about like the money queen and then hers is the badass workshop like it's really kind of a little bit worse. I'm so mad at Amanda. And I'm like, how dare you make this little group and sell these things? And meanwhile, I'm like, join the K-Type Collective. Like I'm doing the same thing, but like I'm not charging. But like, right. It's still like Jack's like, join my mail club. Like we're all trying to create a join the lady giving them something. But here's here's the difference with the reason Amanda is so maddening is because her expertise is getting rich, but she doesn't, she, it's like, how did she get rich? It's so

meta by selling courses. So it's like such a, like, is that what, yeah. But that's the thing is like, Bose has all this experience that she's sharing. Kelty, you have all this experience in the business world that you're sharing. In the real world. All she's done is sold courses from the very beginning. So she's just making money. She's an influencer. But how does she make the money in the beginning? Oh, an influencer. I think she's just an influencer who like started to believe she's like big into church and so she had this like you know collective mindset and then so she's like a manifester being an influencer and then she started selling courses yes because you can't sell courses about being rich when you don't have money right she was just showing her

i think she was showing how beautiful her life was turning out like going you're going along the journey with her because she's been manifesting all of these things happening she's like manifesting I manifested this man. I manifested this life. I manifested the Zimmerman dress. And then you were like, I mean, she's winning. We're talking about her for 10 minutes. Like it's just the, I just don't. Anyway, I, I need to be put in the sandbox. Like I cannot be publicly commenting on people's Instagrams. Like what is wrong with me? I love it. I do too. Keep it going. And I also, it's part of your fat will keep you. No, that will keep you relevant. You should actually do that more often To everybody that's like that, to like any kind of grifter.

I think the equivalent of like bows, because, you know, I see a lot of myself in bows when you're looking at like nepo babies. And you think to yourself, it's kind of the equivalent, not that I have a leg to stand on, and nor does she in this situation. But I'll see somebody get put on a TV show. And I think, wow, if I counted the amount of hours that I trained, the classes I took, the things I sacrificed, the real world experience of being an actress, the grind. But then this person is more successful than I am at doing this thing that I trained for. I, I, it's just, I mean, it's silly. I can feel those feelings, but it's silly to say that that person doesn't deserve or get like, that they're not good. You can't say they're

not good at what they're doing. Maybe they are good. It's just that I feel bitter because Bo's worked her ass off in corporate America a million years to get this knowledge, then teach people. And then this girl was like a natural, natural ability to make money. Yeah. Like just, yeah, you just need a course. That's exactly how I feel about like, I was seeing like Sierra Miller was team Sierra, but I was seeing her like, she's doing interviews now, right? Like she got to host the Wuthering Heights premiere. And I was like, I want to host this premiere so bad. And it's crazy because I'm like, she does a great job. And then I look at the clip, it's got 4 million views and I was like well they're doing the right thing but then she's holding the mic in the wrong

hand everybody like all these influencers they get on the red carpet what if they're left-handed they're like they're like oh my god here's my question that's the wrong hand everybody knows that it's you keep your body open to the camera but if you haven't been yelled out by an executive producer to do that you don't know that and I want to like write her and dm her and be like you're so beautiful you're doing a great job change your mic hand but like No. Keep the comments for, like, the losers. I think you should.

I think that's helpful. I think it's helpful to tell her that. I did it to, like, an influencer at the Golden Globes. Like, I follow, like, this fashion guy. He's like, no, I saw your interview. Please help me. And I was like, okay. And then I sent him, like, I screenshot his videos.

And then I marked it up. And then I showed him, like, when it was good and when it was bad. And he was, like, very thankful. Yeah. Yeah. Well, anyway, I have a new enemy. It is no longer old enemy. if you've been my enemy in the past you're free she's moved on Amanda Francis is my enemy and the

bummer part is is like she's everyone's enemy I'm not even being that yeah you're not getting very creative with your enemies because the other one that you were on for a while has become America's enemy as well I know but the thing is I can't decide if I like really this is where I'm at I am mad about this post but like I can't decide if I hate this woman or if I really like her and think we could take over the world together like that is don't do that don't do that she wouldn't take you as a partner she's a one-man show okay well um it's been fun blessings to all especially i hope you manifest that go take that course join the k-type collective or the male club or the lady gang bye see you next tuesday see you next tuesday lady gang is hosted and produced by kelty knight

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