LadyGang - Keltie's Hysterectomy Journey

Episode Date: March 19, 2024

Today, after a hilarious Good Week-Bad Week from Jac and Becca, Keltie opens up about her decision to undergo a hysterectomy after uncovering a blood disorder. The ladies have an in-depth conversation about Keltie's health journey, hopefully inspiring you to care for yourselves and fight against the doctors who shrug off the often horrible symptoms of womanhood as "just being tired."  Check out our great sponsors!!! Kion: Save 20% on your fundamental supplement for fitness at GetKion.com/ladygang  KiwiCo: Got curious kids? Get 20% off your first month with code LADY at kiwico.com/panda See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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because we have your number. Well, what is this? Welcome to the Lady Gang. That's amazing. Say that again. The Lady Gang. Things are about to change around here. Each week we catch up with Hollywood's hottest girl posse, Kelty Knight, Becca Tobin, and Jack Vanek.

Hello, hello, hello. Welcome to Lady Gang. I'm Becca Tobin, you're with Jack Vanek and Kelty Knight. Do you guys think we should have like, you know how some podcasts have the... beginnings of the record like of the episode like a behind the scenes moment of everybody settling in and being like oh this is a delicious drink all of nick vial's like oh is that what he does they always have like the guest like who's it gonna be like come sit down and like yeah headphones on oh yeah yeah except the guest is us so they're gonna know yeah they're gonna know

i mean how how on other podcasts they'll they'll just keep they'll be rolling and they'll be settling in the guests will be settling in i can do it i can do it great but it's gonna be me just having like an existential crisis about the cameras not working or something like that and then they might throw listeners off i'm gonna say yeah without hearing the hello hello hello first well people come to us people come to us although some people left i did see a mean comment that they were like i know it was on our youtube channel it was like i stopped what i stopped listening to lady gang because kelty's unnecessary need to control everything was really super annoying. I recently came back to the podcast and realized she lightened up a bit

and it's been quite enjoyable since. And I was like, you know what? It's the Prozac. I want to thank Prozac and Big Pharma. Okay. Anyway, but yeah, we could, it's been so many years. We've all hit some slumps as humans. So come back if you turned away. Cause I was a cunt. I had a new baby and you're still you. I am way better than I was. You are way better. I was, we lost you for a minute. I was about to quit lady gang. I was like, I cannot do this. We lost you for a minute. She's back. But you know what? It's so funny. I was with a friend of mine last night and, um, he's got two kids under the age of six. Marriage is not great. And, and I just looked at him. I said, I gotta be honest with you. I don't know anyone, not one of single one of my friends

who is like thriving, having their babies under four years old. Like they're thriving in that. they're like oh my god i did this and i'm alive and like here's a one cute moment that kept me alive but like everyone's marriages are terrible everyone's very no one's their person like no one's yeah well it's a i don't know time to be alive i think for everybody yeah but i just think like you're doing a great job and we saw you struggle but you held it together beautifully and i'm glad you didn't quit because now you're kind of on the other side of having a baby baby and you're back and now she's in terrible twos so it's perfect yeah it's perfect so potty trained no you don't really potty well everyone can do whatever the they want but for

him he's only just turned two and it's early to be doing it i didn't know i'm not potty trained and i'm 42 it's true first born children are harder to potty train because they don't have siblings that they're watching yeah and then i think boys take longer as well longer but i can't decide so all these parents are like it's great when they're potty trained you don't have to change another diaper but then i think about it i don't want to go to public restrooms i don't want to have to go to every public dress restroom around austin yeah with a two-year-old right so what do you even do you just bring them in and you and sometimes they just pussyfoot around it and they fake it out because they just want to see the inside of the bathroom oh my god to get

up from a dinner table and i think at some point parents do it and then their kids like i gotta go to the bathroom and they're like just shit yourself just why did we diaper back why did we take it 100 all right well it's time for good week yes it is bad week oh no who'd like to go first i'll go um good week we officially put an offer on a house no you did not yep this morning and we're a little we're recording a little bit ahead so by the time this airs i will know if we got it or not okay i'm thinking well it's very competitive obviously which is insane okay um i was telling becca a little about it in the car it's nuts because i walked in this house and it reeked of cat piss yeah yeah i'm still thinking it's my dream home yes of course no and it's worth

well over a million dollars like it's pretty crazy like what the world has come to when it comes to buying homes did it have carpet no carpet so where's the cat piss living that's what i'm wondering it's okay we can deep clean i love it i love a project i'm i don't have any projects anymore i'm like i'm ready please help me ken is ready oh okay so the house that we like put an offer on it has the weirdest walls everywhere so it's going to be like a big demo opening up the ceiling like it's gonna be a project like nothing about that home is livable so i'm excited about that because i've seen you do it and like so we'll see fingers crossed again if you're listening to this i'll already know the if i got it or not but who's

gonna call you your agent yeah how many offers i don't know did you go over yeah yeah like you have to yeah in orange county did you write a letter you can't it's illegal now love letters you can't shut up that's how i got all my houses like it's just me well my poor little canadian dream to live in your home yeah they can't do it because of like discrimination yeah discriminate but you're right because we put like a photo with us in the dog and all that oh my god yeah i mean i could literally that could be discrimination wow yeah i could well because we didn't know we haven't put an offer in yet so i was like already i'm like envisioning what my letter is going to be i'm like oh we're like wanting to start a family by my parents and like whatever and where's

the house uh in Mission Viejo it's like eight minutes from my parents it's by um like a really cute trail that we walk on already how has the hunting been has it all just been garbage horrible yeah it's like every couple weeks there's one house that is a dump like they're all dumps like falling apart there was a house that we looked at last week that was amazing but it was from the 70s and the carpet was from the 70s and the bathroom stains everywhere and we're like this is amazing yeah it's perfect it's sold immediately for $300,000 over asking. Wow. Dumps. I'm not kidding. When I say dump, I mean, dump, dump, dump, but at least we're in the game. It's exciting to even like put an offer in. So

we'll see. I think it's great. And I'm so proud of you because this is something you've wanted. So listen, I think whether you get this house or not, we're in, you're in the business and you're going to have home this year and that's thrilling. Oh, good job. Thank you. And also congratulations on saving up that down payment yeah you've worked your ass off and you don't have real jobs so the two of you no but the two of you together you've never had a w-2 in your life yeah so it's like the fact that you've been able to live these weird careers and also be putting a down payment on a big purchase like this it's huge thank you i agree proud of you thanks no one's parents are like you go be a guitar player you go start a niche fashion line

in a podcast go buy a house yeah i can't wait for you to buy a house yeah i can't wait for you to be adults it is crazy because i'm like who else are the people that are like have enough money to put a down payment on a house that's that expensive and people are like all cash and you're like what no it's insane where are you getting this cash like unless you're generationally wealthy but i am really proud it's like we're spending our own money and my parents didn't give us a single cent right like you did it and like coming off a wedding year it's huge yeah yeah and we didn't even give you wedding gifts so you didn't even have like a honey fund yep very spendy two years but that's why we need to make the lady gang money okay yeah or else i'll

die um okay my bad week is okay you know how we had tamron on we're talking about smut reading i remember we're like what is it what does it stand for and we couldn't know and i said sexy mature something we couldn't figure out what it stood for i looked it up sexual maturity under text wow i mean yeah yeah a hundred percent you know what i'm sure i really want to tell you something i really want us to do a smut book series i knew you were just i've been thinking about it and i already reached out to an agent to write it well we would have kelty and i would write it i would write it you would write a bit of it it would be here's the idea no lady gang tell us what you think you don't have to do anything no well no don't say it out loud

we would it would be based it would be stories based on our real encounters in hollywood so it would be like pr two people are in a movie and they fall in love and that's like the romance or like it would be like reporter and whatever and it would be like all of our great stories about our is it short stories no not short stories it's a novel hannah brown just wrote one it's called um mistakes we didn't make and it's great it's smut it's smut so jacks would be a music music guy music guy music festival the penny lane of emo yeah yeah it's like millennial yeah i like it but like because the smut i'm reading is either like too normie like it's a doctor and a whatever or it's like old or it's very fantasy there's a lot of smut that's like

in the fantasy world and that's what i liked about hannah's book is it was just like this guy from her past and then there's like some like sexy sexy rom-com kind of make you horny honestly hannah's book is great i would take us a little hornier oh yeah we got like she's like some make us you never got to like the penetration i think we could get to like corny but that's what women are reading tell me that you have already reached out to an agent regarding this i just said would do you think there'd be interest i'm in before i bring it to the girls i want to know if we can sell this thing i mean i look back there's nothing bigger in the publishing world right now i'll do it smut becky you don't have to do anything i do because if each of us has to do

our own version no but they would be a series right yours wouldn't come until if you want to go last yeah and then we could really get you a ghostwriter because we'll be so successful but wait how would that work money-wise because i'm not it each person would just get their money all of lady gang we'd split it all we split it three ways and you wouldn't have to work until the third book you'd have to be in the photo shoot which you'd hate no by then ai will be able to put me into a photo shoot anyway okay moving on sorry but my second part of bad week is you know we're talking about smut and i'm like i know it sounds it sounds like a dirty word it's out there's something that's up about it it's because it is because there's a type of porn that's called smut

porn is real bad oh really bad murder porn wait it's called smut porn it is murder porn is you don't think the book industry should have looked into this you don't think turn around hall would have known that she wrote she writes murder books i swear to god i mean don't google it because then like the fbi might be on your phone but like oh god so many things to worry about sorry guys Well, I'm going to jump in because my bad week actually has to do with the first house I ever bought. So I up on Laurel Canyon. Yes. I that house means a lot to me and Zach.

It's just in my fantasies. I thought I'd buy it back at one point. Yeah, it's so cute. I'm so mad that I didn't figure out a way to how somehow hold on to it. And that's where we filmed. That's where we filmed the sizzle for Lady Gang. so when we bought the house it was a time where you could write a letter to the owner yeah and i found out from the broker that she was a makeup artist in the business so i felt like we had some

sort of a connection there and yes she had inherited money when her dad passed away and that's how she bought the house so it was really sentimental to her and so she really wanted to give it to people who wanted to make a life in it you know so in my me and zach's mind our intention was always to stay in that house have our first baby in that house do so many things in the house but life happened and we really grew out of it quicker than we realized and so it was teeny tiny it was it was teeny tiny house it was 1100 square feet little old house like a little a little it's like a cottage cottage and for me and zach and a potential baby at the time it just felt like it wasn't as feasible i'm sure we could have done it but we had another option and we went with it

and i felt guilt forever because i then we sold the house to people we didn't end up knowing we didn't have a close connection we just sort of it was an all-cash buyer and damn them damn them um we recently drove up the street yeah oh no they have torn the whole thing down no except for one little portion of the facade which i guess they have to legally leave if they don't want to do The permit for a new. Yeah, for a new build or whatever. Wait, so what did they redo it like? Like, what's the vibe?

It's just empty. It's literally, there's just a lot of dirt where the house used to be. And the staircase is kind of still there. I think the staircase was gone by the time I saw it. So the house is going. And I have so much guilt regarding this makeup artist who sold us this house thinking she'd still be able to drive up and down that street, see the house. yeah and oh I can't believe how like why these people are doing it and they're they essentially they're tearing the whole thing down yeah and I don't get it and it's so sad there's so much

history in that street and I'm just so bummed and I hope she I hope one day I see her and can apologize because I know for a fact like the fact that her dad died and she inherited money and bought that house with it that's really sad yeah well in better news i was i was listening to a podcast and i heard a term that there were people talking about smut no there were people talking about um the housewives of salt lake city and all of these psychological things that go on in. So there's this term that Brene Brown came up with and it's called floodlighting. It's the opposite of vulnerability, but it presents as somebody who's very open and very vulnerable. It's oversharing publicly can not only make other people feel like you have invited them

into a very personal space when they barely know you, it can have the opposite effect you are going for. So Brene Brown calls this floodlighting. People are when they overshare a lot right up front, like Monica from Housewives of Salt Lake City, and she puts it all out there. So if you meet somebody in there airing all their dirty laundry, they're floodlighting you. They're like flashing these lights into your face. Essentially, it's their armor. Yeah. To make you think they're very open and very vulnerable when in fact the floodlight is their armor so that you can't have a chink yes so floodlighting and every single time i was thinking about this and watching people's behaviors and thinking about people who i initially had that first

interaction with where they did that yeah they later proved to be shady shady people interesting that's yeah i'm like who have i been floodlighting or been floodlit by because she's my floodlighting Well, I think that there's a level of it that can just be done unconsciously because sometimes I'll overshare to somebody, but my intention is not really any other thing than to just show them that I'm open so they can be open. But I guess these people do it so that you can't, like Monica, she said, I f***ed my brother-in-law and she like announced it from the day she started on the show. So no one digs into her life because you think you know all the dirty secrets, but you don't actually know. If you're so open, you're going to be open about everything. So why would you ever think that person would lie? Why would I lie?

Because I admitted that I f***ed my brother at the loss. Yes. Yes. Interesting. Well, this is a perfect segue. When we come back, I'm holding my good week, bad week because I have news and I'm going to floodlight you with all my stories and my uterus. Now back to the Lady Gang.

We are back. My good week, bad week. Here we go. My good week is that I'm going to take two weeks off. No, she's going on vacation. How is that not good? That's a great week. It's a great week.

I don't even know, to be honest with you guys, like I don't really know. I feel like I'm numb to everything. Like even when the e-news was announced, like everyone's like, oh my God, are you so happy? And I'm just like, yes, but like, I feel like I'm saying I'm happy because I'm supposed to feel happy. but like, I am happy, but also I'm like, is it being grounded that like nothing really excites me or disappoints me that much? Like it's all just, I'm just level. Is that the Prozac? Yes. I mean, well, two things, the announcement of a job is like not really the time. Like the

public announcement is not really the time that you should be feeling anything except for like gratitude for people being nice and reaching out. But when you got the call from your agent, you were excited. So like all these like fake announcements that all these influencers are doing and it's like, this is so exciting. You know, that's for the fans. That's for the followers. That's for like other people to get excited or hyped up. But for you, it's like those little moments that are smaller, quieter moments where you're like, oh, this is a nice one. But I also think like, if you don't experience super high highs, then you also don't experience super low lows. So sometimes it's just a way of us subconsciously protecting ourselves from

feeling too much. Well, and we've talked about it before, too, where like, I get more excited for somebody else's like success or like an exciting moment for them than I get for like, I was the excitement I had when you had got super fan Kelty was more excited than I've probably been for anything in my life, which I don't know is also like some sort of like a protection for yourself, but like you're actually allowed to feel excited for somebody else. So, I mean, I was elated. So you've got everybody on your side. Thanks. Okay. So the reason I, I, so I'm having hysterectomy and I'm, you know, I'm it's today it's now, like if you're listening to this, I'm in surgery, which is great. Wait, is this actually, this is going to be the day that you're

having surgery. Yeah. Yeah. Um, and I wanted to like, I'm pre-recording this a week out because I wanted to talk about it. And I actually was like, should we say something? Am I going to say something? And there's many reasons why I want to say something, but then just two days ago in the Facebook group and our Facebook group, um, one of our members actually posted that she has a very similar thing as me and is having the hysterectomy and is freaking the out about it. Um, and I was like, Oh my God, I'm not alone. And then throughout this course of like learning about this, I've realized that like most women, the most hysterectomies that are performed are for women aged 40 to 44, which is wild because it feels like it's an old lady surgery. Um, and so, but

I go back to my e-story. So this is what's crazy. So I I've obviously been feeling like shit and suffering for a long time. And I, you know, I, I'm trying to unpack this in therapy, but for me, I, I feel like I was, I'm, I'm such a hustler and I'm such a hard, hard worker. And I've always like lived and breathed that. And so when I felt like shit in my twenties and thirties and, you know, even in the past few years, I always sort of blame myself. Right. And I blame myself because I'm like, I'm working too hard. I don't have good work-life balance. If I woke up and like meditated for 10 minutes, I would feel better. If I ate my vegetables, I'd feel better. And so like, I have made it no secret that I trashed my body and have been terrible to myself

in my twenties and thirties. And I absolutely believe that like some of that has caused me to have a lot of these health issues in my forties. Like, and I know I am to blame, but at the same time, like, I think I kept going on these, like what we call the health journey, because I would be like, well, I know I feel like shit and I know I need to be better. And then I would try so hard and put so much effort into being super healthy, but I never really felt any better. Can you be specific about what you were feeling? Yeah. So I've always had like numbing fatigue, especially well. So it's been a couple of things, right? Like I've always been tired. I've always been sort of this. And then I was like, am I bipolar like my brother where I'm like a maniac where

I'm manic and then I'm so tired and I have to sleep for three days. I don't know what's going on. But the past few years as I've been going into perimenopause, what I have felt are mind numbing fatigue, like where I am on doing Lady Gang with you or I'm at E and if I'm not doing those two things, I am asleep in my bed. I'm asleep at 7.15 at night. I could sleep 14, 16 hours a day. I do not work out. I do not hike. I do not hang out with friends. I don't go to dinners. I don't go to birthday parties. I read my book. I fall asleep. I cannot. So mind numbing, like fatigue, like you can't even really get it. Body aches and pains. You guys remember when I was like, oh my God, I have arthritis over my whole body. And then they went and searched for

arthritis. They're like, you have no arthritis. My feet hurt. My ankles hurt. My elbows hurt. My back hurts, um, constant headache, like constant headache where again, I blame myself. I'm like, Oh, if I wasn't drinking coffee or whatever. And then I stopped all those things and I still had the headache, um, really bad eyesight. So basically for the last couple of years, I've been memorizing or lightly memorizing the scripts that I have to read out of the teleprompter because my eyes, it's like, I, I can't focus on anything. And everything is like this, like everything's like a blurry line.

Like it's all moving around at all times. I can't focus. My eyes don't focus. What else? Obviously like weird rashes all the time and just horrible, horrible, horrible periods. Horrible periods where as I got into perimenopause, I just got my period again today. It's been 17 days. I'm getting my period every 14 to 17 days. And it's so heavy where I was wearing menstrual cup, menstrual disc, and a period panty at work and wearing my like mini dresses at E and feeling like I was going to bleed through them like in an hour, you know, and like a really big clots, like not to get too graphic, but I want to get graphic on this podcast. Like a lot of clotting, a lot of like where you sit, you know, that feeling before you kind of, this is gross, but like you have a big poop and you're like, your body starts to kind of

like grumble and maybe you get like a little period, like a pain or whatever. And then you're like, it's like that, except then I ha and then I take a deep breath and I like pass a huge, like clot out of my uterus. Um, really. And, and as I've gotten older, really bad, like PMS too. And I'm doing all the things I'm taking the supplements, I'm doing the progesterone cream, but just like sore boobs you know all of those things that go along with it so these horrible periods um this crazy crazy exhaustion to the point where it's like i can't walk my driveway is hell but like i can't walk up and down my driveway um i can't take the trash out like i'm i'm not like you know bringing my luggage on an airplane is like i need to like take a nap after

that even doing a phone call like doing a phone call where i have to like you know talk about lady gang or whatever. It's like, then I have to like go lay down after and just like put myself back together. Um, so anyway, a couple of years ago I started, you know, really working on this. Um, I finally have a, um, prognosis if you will, and what they have finally figured out. So I just want to say the first doctor I went to, um, this was kind of before I got, had the mono and was going to this, I was seeing a naturopath. Before I did that, I really thought my thyroid was off and I've always had thyroid stuff and take a thyroid pill. And I went to this one doctor and he's like, oh, well you have chronic fatigue syndrome and you're just going to feel like

this forever. He's like, you just, it just happens. I was like, well, what causes it? And he's like, it just happens sometimes. And I was like, I, if I have to live the rest of my life this tired? Like, this just seems like a weird thing. So then that's when Christina Perry was like, you need to go see Dr. S at the Beehive of Healing. So I went to Dr. S and he was like, no, no, no. Like I'm going to fix you. And so we went on this crazy two and a half year journey where the blood work that he does is like 60 pages. Like it's not even like a CBC panel is the top. What kind of a doctor is he? He's a holistic, like functional medicine, functional medicine. Yeah. Um, and he's, he's like out here. He really helped my friend Christine after she

lost her baby at eight and a half months. And it was like a real, you know, saving grace of like getting her health together. And he really, really, really dug in and he would see me and he would be like, you're going to feel better, but it's going to take some time. And so some of that was on me, right? Like I started working with a nutritionist and I really had to look at what I was eating, what I was putting in my body, you know, changing some of my eating habits. And so then we kept digging. So then it was really interesting because, you know, my iron was low and the doctors would be like, well, just eat a steak. And even my nutritionist who was now wrong and was still seeing her was like, well, what if, would you eat a steak medicinally? Cause I don't

eat meat. She's like, would you just eat it? Would you look at it like medicine? Would you just eat a piece of steak once a week as your medicine for this iron? Like if you felt better. And I was like, yes. Um, I didn't eat the steak, but I started drinking bone broth and I was that desperate to feel better. I haven't had meat like red meat since I was 15 years old, but I was like, I feel like shit. And if I bone broth is what I need to drink. So I started having bone broth. Then they tested all my things, my number one inflammation allergy in my body is bovine. So all the collagens, all the beef liver pills, all the iron pills, everything is made with that. And it was actually making my symptoms worse and inflaming my body and causing me to feel bloated, terrible, like I

had a little pregnant belly. So I switched to chicken broth, which I'm still eating. And I haven't had chicken since I was 14, but I'm doing the broth every day, all these things. So I made a big change. And one of the things Dr. S did is he sent me to this oncologist named Dr. Berkowitz, who I love at the Disney Center. And he was like, you need to like go and really see someone about your iron because your level is like crazy. So Dr. Berkowitz does all this testing. This was last year. And he's like, so here's the thing, your iron is bad, but your ferritin, ferritin is the binder of iron. Ferritin lives in your blood and it is what connects with the iron and keeps the iron and your healthy stuff flowing through your blood cells.

He's like, your ferritin is eight right now. The level is eight. And he's like, it needs to be over 200. A healthy person has a level. On the bad side, 120. On the good side, 200. So they gave me iron infusions. So I went for three iron infusions, you guys remember. And it's actually kind of dangerous to do iron. I mean, they do them all the time, but too much iron can cause heart attacks and like stuff in your brain. So you have to be really careful. And of course, being the delicate flower, I am the second infusion I had, I had allergic reaction to it. My throat closed up. So they did like stop anyway. So I went to the infusions and normally like those infusions last, they're like, Oh, we'll just like a kickstarts. And then your body starts

doing what it's supposed to do. So did all the infusions, the highest my level got after the infusions was 34. And when I tell you that's when, do you guys remember we were doing the podcast a while ago, year ago. And I was like, I have a crazy sex drive. And I was like, all I want to do is have sex. And I feel so good. That's when my blood was 34. And I was like, I felt like I could win a marathon. It was only 34. It was like even a small improvement. Still a hundred under the lowest. Yes. Yes. So, but then I kind of instantly started feeling shitty again. And, but I assumed that the, the iron infusions had worked. So I was like, okay, it's something else. It's something else. So we, I just keep working. I keep working. I go back for

like my checkup and he does it again. And he's like, um, everything's improved. My thyroid could not be better. My, like all of the different hormones, like everything that he tested, he was like improved. And he has this thing where he's like a big visual, uh, my, this is Dr. S He has like a big visual thing. So he writes on your chart improved and he writes like arrows going up because he wants you to see like you're getting better and like that go into your brain. And then he gets to the ferritin. It's five, five, level five. So it went down. It went down. And he was like, we really, he's like, we really need to figure out what we're

going to do here because this is not getting better and you can't live like this. So it was interesting because this was all happening at the same time we had Sharon Stone on the podcast and Sharon Stone had said that thing in passing about an ablation, which I didn't know existed as a human being. So then I went to my gyno and I was like, Dr. Lily Lee, here's where I'm at. I'm having these terrible periods every two weeks. I literally can't go on vacation with my husband without having a period through half of it. These are my ferritin levels. I came with this yellow folder of like all my paperwork. And I was like, can I have an ablation? And she was like, I mean, let me talk to Dr. S. So they got on the phone. So then there's four things they try to do before

the hysterectomy. Number one is they give you the mini pill, progesterone pill. So I took the mini pill because the mini pill of progesterone only pill allegedly stops your period. I took it for three days. I got cystic acne all over my face. I called Dr. Lee. I was like, I can't do it. My body's never been good at hormones like that. And I was like, this is not going to be the option for me. So then she tried to talk me into an IUD, which is why I was texting you guys about your IDs. And, um, and she was like, Oh, um, I was like, I don't want to do the hormone one. And then my pelvis is tilted in a weird way. And she was like, it's going to be really hard to insert your IUD. You're going to be, you could be one of those people that has problems with it. And I was

like, well, I know I will be the person that has problems with it, like of all the people. So I was like, that's not an option. So then she's like, great ablation. We do the sonogram. She's like, I think your uterus has a septum. So you're not gonna be able to get an ablation, but let's really look. So uteruses are normal shaped like a diamond, but some people have a heart shaped uterus, which is kind of a beautiful thing. My uterus is heart shaped. But when your uterus is heart shaped, it means you have like a septum that comes down the middle and the ablation tool is shaped like a diamond. So it won't go in and it won't burn off the uterine lining. So then I go for an MRI.

I have another correction to the MRI machine stuff. And she basically calls me and she's like, you have this septum. The only option is hysterectomy. So that's what I'm doing. I'm doing the hysterectomy. I don't want to live like this anymore. I'm also doing the infusions. And their feeling is that if, oh, sorry, we finally figured out what's wrong with my blood.

I have a blood disorder and I've probably had it my whole life. It's called microcyclic anemia. It's a specific type of anemia that is not food-based. So eating the steak, don't text me, eat the steak. How you live your life doesn't affect it at all. It can be genetic. It can develop over time. Essentially, I am just someone that the way that my body is made, my blood cells are smaller and there's less of them than a normal person. And so no matter what I did, no matter what supplements I take, no matter what infusions I get, there is really nothing that can be done other than stopping and keeping as much healthy blood in my body as possible as all times. So that's why the hysterectomy is the perfect thing to do because

it will mean that I won't be bleeding out all of the good blood all the time so we can try to like get on top of it. But yeah. Is there a blood test to take to know if you have that disorder? So I don't, that's such a good question. Um, probably I need to look on my files, but Dr. S like essentially, I think it's something that people know a lot about doctors anyway, because he looked at my chart and he was like, okay, yeah. And then he wrote it down what it was. And he based, and then when I went to the gyno and I was like, this is the anemia. And then when I went to the other guy he's like oh yeah yeah so probably just like putting together a lot of different pieces to kind of figure it out instead of just one test and it's also like i guess maybe

after you maybe you see it for a while of like you know nothing because nothing helping it dr s saw how hard i worked and he knew all the treatments i was doing and he's giving me an iv every week and i'm taking all of his supplements and i'm seeing the nutritionist so he knows like we're doing all of that we're throwing all of this at this and it's not doing anything and so the only cure or the only thing that'll make it better is a hysterectomy so if you're if there's somebody that has the same thing but wants kids then that's like a huge well maybe an iud or an ablation because they have if they have a normal shape they don't have uterus right if they have a normal shape uterus i think well it's so interesting so i would jack vanek to this like i've been on

Reddit every night. And, and so a lot of people with all types of anemia, they go and try to stop their periods in some way. Like my IUD stops my period. I don't bleed really. So that is, yeah. Right. And I'm just taking, I mean, of course, delicate. Well, it's funny. Cause I said to my doctor, I'm such a delicate flower. And he looked at me and he goes, he goes, you're not a delicate flower. You're incredibly strong. Like the way that you've been living your life and being successful at what you do, even though like this would, this would trash people, you know? So I felt happy when he said that. You're listening to the lady gang. Um, yeah, people stop their periods. Right. I just don't have that option because of the tilted uterus and then the weird

shape uterus. And it was like, we kept, we kept, cause it seems so easy, right? You're like, Oh, I'll get these infusions. I'll stop my period. And then that'll be it. Um, but I, and then we just kept going down the list of things and I was like, Oh no, of course I can't have the day surgery where you like go in and they ablation you and then you're good forever. People do say ablations don't last. And like, there's things with it too, but if you want to have kids, it's like IUD or you just have to deal with it. Um, but there's so many people. So it's very helpful because I feel like Jack, you would agree. Reddit is like a terrible place where like the worst of everything kind of comes out, like the conspiracy theories. And if you go on like hysterectomy and

anemia Reddit, which I can't believe that exists, people are like, people are like, I wish I did it 20 years ago. Why the have I suffered for so long? Like so many people are really positive about it. Some people are like, I gained a ton of weight after my history. Oh, so I'm getting, um, I'm leaving my ovaries. So they're taking my tubes, my cervix and my uterus. Um, you can take the cervix out isn't that just like a tube yeah but there's some like sometimes for people your endometrium like what actually builds like the lining kind of goes down into your cervix so to like have a super clean wait so do you is this technically endometriosis that you have no okay not the same thing at all endometriosis is when your uterine lining is built around the

outside of your uterus so it's in places that it shouldn't be he's like he's saw some endo he saw some cysts he saw like all kinds of shit on the mri and he's like i'm gonna clean it out like when i get in there but this is not like i do know people go in to have like surgeries for endo but this is not that at all this is just to like stop the period so um and then i'll get the infusions and i'm really excited about it but just last thing sorry i know this is long but um i just was like, you know, I talked to my mom about it and she was like, all of my friends were in our seventies, all of our friends, we had our kids and then we've had horrible menopause and horrible perimenopause. And she's like, I feel so jealous of your generation because you guys are so woke

in like your own health journeys. She's like, I just saw my doctor every two years for a pap smear and was like, I have horrible periods. And they're like, sorry, have a hot water bottle. and she's like, I'm talking to my friends that you're doing this and all of us are like, why the didn't we get, finish having our children and have a hysterectomy because we've had prolapse uterus and all of these issues going in to menopause and she was like, I'm so happy, like she was so excited

and she was like, I'm so thrilled that you're doing this. Two things I'll say, I want a hysterectomy TikTok and do not, if you're planning on doing this surgery, look up how they do it. They put you on the slab and they tilt your head down so all your blood runs to your head and you're strapped by your tits and you're in the stirrups naked, legs in the air. Whoa. Like you're on a seesaw and the seesaw, you're up on the bottom.

I have no idea. All these photos and videos from the surgical room, they're like, by the way, I was excited about my hysterectomy until I found out how they do the surgery. And they have you legs spread, head down, like you're doing the dab. Anyways. Bizarre. I was like, I'm not doing this anymore. I'm not doing this anymore.

And the second thing was that they won't let me keep my uterus. I tried to see if I could put it in like a jar. No, they won't let you. They take it for like pathology. He said he, I could get special permission to take a photo. Cause Dr. S was like, you should do a ceremony where you like say goodbye. So anyway, my last thing I just want to say about this is that I was texting with Sharon Stone, which is so funny after the podcast.

and I told her I was doing the surgery. Um, she was like, it's going to be a real emotional, like warfare. And I was like, no, I want the surgery. Like I want to feel better and I'm not having kids. And I know that. And then now like in the, you know, the past, past few days as the surgery gets really quick, I am an emotional disaster. Like I, and it's, I think it's cause it's so final. Like I knew we weren't having kids, but it's like, I'm wrapping my head around the fact that like, I will never be pregnant. I will never birth a child. I will never have those feelings, whatever, good, bad, ugly, all those terrible things. I don't know if you went through this Becca, when you like finally had to like get good with the fact that you were going to have a

surrogate like i i'm just like that part of womanhood i will be on my deathbed and i will never experience it like do you know the way that i look at it when i mean i don't know if this is helpful or not but i'm like yeah it's like a rite of passage carrying a baby it's like this thing that i'm literally gonna die and not have a clue what it's like but then i'm like but then i look at my life and i have had so many other experiences that a ton of other people will never have never so we don't get to go on every roller coaster in the theme park of life we get to go on the ones that we you know we do that we're lucky enough to do and then some of the other adventures we just we skip and it's i i mean it's like a it's like it's bittersweet but it's also if you talked it's

you also have to look at it where you are getting so much more pros out of the cons like for me i was like, I don't have any desire to put my body through hell again. I was waving my white flag and I was like, I'm done. So whatever the goodness is in those visuals of women breastfeeding their babies, like that's fine. I can say goodbye to those if I never have to stick myself with it and eat needle again. Yeah. So you never have to have another day of exhaustion, another period of hell and clotting. And so just keep thinking of the good stuff that's going to come on the other side of this. And you're going to have so much energy and you're not going to have a kid you have to waste it on. Yeah. Oh my God. I'm never having a period again. That sounds

literally delightful. Yeah. And I just like looked at Chris and I was like, you're such a good man. And like, you should procreate, like there should be more Chris nights on the planet. it. Like, and I was just like, Oh, all of a sudden, like my, like, do I want a baby? And then I was like, Kelsey, this is just like, this is the final, like, it's like the thing you want, the thing you can't have. And, and also like based on this, um, this is probably why when I have had pregnancies in the past, like I miscarried, like, or whatever, you know what I mean? Like I wouldn't have a healthy baby anyway. So it's like, I, I would probably end up in the case of not having be able to carry my child anyway. You know what I mean? So it's like, fine. And then also I don't

want a baby. Like, so I just have to like, I get in this like mode where I'm like, Oh my God, my God, like what this is. So, and then I'm like, but really think about your life. Like you don't want this. So, and once you go through it and you start healing and you start feeling better, like this is obviously like the shock of it, like the emotional shock hitting you at once of like, you know, not the, what could have been, but you know, just life in general and womanhood, but like, you'll feel so much better. You won't even think about it. And I just, the reason I wanted to, I just, I know this was long winded, but ladies, I know you're listening. I, I just want to say like, A, it's not your fault. And B, you have to be such a, a, like your own force

field in your own health. Like there is no doctor that you're going to be like, I'm tired all the time and they're going to go into this journey with you. Like you have to, if you want to feel better, like you and something feels wrong. Like I just, for so long, like I felt like it was my fault. I was like, oh, well, if I was a better person, if I was a better woman, I would feel better. No, this is in me. This has been in me. This is a real medical condition that has a name that is a thing. And I thought it was my fault for so long. Or I thought, oh, this is just what womanhood is. Womanhood is suffering. Womanhood is bleeding through your sweatpants, having to take a shower at 3 p.m. before I go shoot a show at 4 p.m. so that I'm not covered in blood.

I just thought that this was somehow my fault. And I just want every person out there to know it is not normal to feel so bad all the time. And if you are feeling awful, more than just the regular sort of everyday stress, like please go and do your very best to like get to the bottom of it because we don't deserve to like live this life in hell. You know? I love that. Right. It's like you, Jack, it's like you and your skin. It's like you knew something's up and people are like, oh my God, it's a rash. And you're like, I know in my gut, there's like, well, it was literally in your gut, but like you knew there was more to the story. And it's like, we get gaslit by medical people and they're like, oh, it's chronic fatigue syndrome. I would still

be just nowhere closer to health if I had believed that, you know? Oh yeah. You have to be your own advocate and like the healthcare system, especially like regular, like Western doctors. It's like, they're not going to look into the things that like a naturopath is going to look into. So it's like you knew and you kept digging and if you didn't keep digging, you would just live your life in like be suffering the entire time. Right. And I have four doctors. I have a surgeon. I have, and by the way, his name's Matthew, which is my brother's name. And I got on the Zoom with him and he just started crying. And I was like, are you going to tell me I can't have it? And he was like, no, you're the perfect candidate. He's like, I would force this on

you. He's like, you have to do this. And then it was so nice because then the next day Becca was like, Hey, I was talking to my friend and she's like, you have to have this guy. This is the guy. and it's my surgeon. It happened to be that guy. Yeah. He was like, you have to have Dr. Seidhoff. He's the guy that is the best guy at Cedars. And I was like, that's my surgeon. I literally talked to him this week. Well, and that was like another side thing because Kelty had just kind of mentioned them going in and if they see some endo stuff kind of handling it. And I was describing it to my friend Megan and she goes, please, please. Megan has been in hell for the last couple of years, fertility wise. And she was like, please, I have been living on the internet,

the same type of thing where she's been her own advocate. And she said, please make sure with the endosurgery, she's seeing a specialist because there are, and listen, this is probably going to piss off a lot of OBGYNs, but I don't care because like we're here to help people. That is not a specialized field for most OBGYNs. And so you have to be very careful when you're going in and handling endo to see a specialist. We have a few friends who've had some bad experiences. And if you go on and you really dig pretty deep, it's like, that's a very precious part of our bodies as we're talking about. It's kind of like, she said, it's like going to see a dentist for braces and not an orthodontist. That's kind of the comparison. And listen, OBGYNs, they're wonderful.

I love them. I think they're brilliant, talented, whatever. So this is not shading anyone, but just for this specific thing. It's really important. No, it's true. And even my, um, guy, no Dr. Lee, she was like, she was like, I don't do this surgery. She's like, I can, she's like, I'm trained in it. But like, I, there's a guy that is the best. And she's like, it's all he does all day long. Right. She's like, I would love to be there. And like, you know, but she's like, there's a person that this is their specialty and this is who I want you to go to. And it was this doctor so yeah I'm really excited my mom's gonna yeah my mom's gonna be in town taking care of me and um I am you know I am just last thing I'm very thankful to both of you because I you know

I've been up and down over the past few years for sure and you've been so understanding and um and like you working about taking the time off and all that stuff and I just love you guys and I actually love that we have a community like it made me feel so seen when I saw in the Facebook group that someone else was writing about this. And then I was like, cause I feel like an idiot talking about it for 25 minutes or 30 minutes and being like, Oh, this thing, blah, blah, blah. Like, and then I'm like, no, we actually like, listen, we're full of shit and we're idiots and we have fun and talk shit. But like at the end of the day, I do think we're, we have open conversations. If I hadn't heard Sharon Stone on our podcast, talk about ablation, then I wouldn't have known this was

an option for me and I wouldn't have fought for it. So it's like, we are doing something good in the world and i just love you guys so much and that's it we love you so you're gonna have a great surgery and a great 2.0 coming soon if she felt so horny with her ferritins at 32 imagine when they're at 200 i don't even know what i'm gonna do when we're on tour and she's wanting to like go to a restaurant oh my god what is gonna happen where she's like let's have a cocktail let's go to a restaurant i will be so it's been almost a decade of like night night read a book Kelty. So this is exciting. Yeah. You better like actually socialize with us for once without working. Literally. Like, what if I just like my new assistant, Derek was like, do you ever just

like go out to eat? Like for the love of like going out. And I was like, no, I go to bed. I go to sleep. And he was like, I was like, but what if I like went out for sushi on a Friday night? Yeah. Yeah. I can't wait for it. I love you. Um, send me healing energy. I'll see you guys in a few weeks but lady gang will never stop because we're masterminds and um see you next tuesday bye see you next tuesday thank you so much for listening the lady gang is produced by steve delameter stacy para jared monaco and social support from amy ryerson it really means the world to us when you show up in our community outside the podcast so sign up for our secret facebook group just search the lady gang under groups follow us on instagram and tiktok at the

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