LadyGang - LG QUCKIE: The Life of Afton!
Episode Date: April 4, 2019This week, we get to hear from Jac's hair & make-up specialist and BFF Afton Williams about her life with the LadyGang TV show as well as her ability as Jac's wingman in love! Follow the... podcast on Instagram @theladygang and email Jac, Becca and Keltie at Hello@theLadyGang.com! And check out the TV show page's official page @ladygangtv! Check out new episodes of the LadyGang TV show every Sunday at 11:00 only on E! And thank you to today's sponsors: Amazon = Go to Amazon.com/shop/ladygang to find their favorite products while keeping the podcast FREE! Brooklinen = Get 10% off your first order AND free shipping when you use promo code LADIES at Brooklinen.com MedMen = Experience the “New Normal” at MedMen.com Walt Disney World = Now’s the time to find your “Happy Place” here at Walt Disney World See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Hey guys, the following podcast is a Lady Gang Network and Podcast One production, which
means it's going to be awesome.
It's time for a quickie.
Podcast One presents The Lady Gang, the Hollywood girl posse with Lady Gang Quickie.
Here's Kelty Knight, Becca Tobin, and Jack Vanek.
Let's make this quick.
Hello, welcome to the Lady Gang Quickie.
Quickie in the closet.
You have to say hello, hello, hello.
Hello.
Hello.
Hello.
welcome to the quickie jack set the scene we are sitting in kelty's closet it's me kelty
and afton my bestie my makeup artist and hairstylist and uh we're in between uh lady
gang tv filming and our interviews which is a big chunk of free time that we get a hangover in
we this is i've already hung over kelty usually takes a nap i know i really i'm over feeling like
i need to pass out but i'm like no stay awake in the closet stay awake in the closet it really is
it's only one day of filming but it feels like a week three yeah it feels like every day kills me
it's a weekend it kills me like my eyes are burning and i gotta wake up tomorrow morning
my makeup's coming at 5 30 a.m here so i have to fly to las vegas you've you've been back and
forth from vegas like 15 times in this three times this week three times jack and i do one
Vegas trip once a year yeah it's too much I will say like I'm an excellent Vegas traveler like
I don't pack a bag like a purse only like I'm going for one night like your to me bag
I don't even do I just I was doing a purse but I got on the way back because I um usually the
company pays for like preferred on Southwest which means like nothing I love that they fly
you Southwest because Vegas is but the thing is I want to fly from Burbank it's closer to my house
I could fly American from LA, but then I had to drive down.
Anyway, it's a whole thing.
But anyway, so on the way back, I was like so exhausted this week.
And on the way back, I get to the airport and I'm like, B34, what the f**k?
Because I'm normally like A1, A2, A6.
Welcome to commoner life.
I know.
Middle seat.
That's why you said middle seat.
I was like, Kelty would never sit in a middle seat.
Never.
That's insane.
I'm way too good for a middle seat.
I've never flown first class.
I've never even been upgraded to first class by accident.
I've never been on a private.
I'm just slumming it.
Wait, you've...
I'm on Spirit Airlines.
Like, I'm inside the bag.
You're the checked bag.
Okay, before we keep talking about my asshole woes, Jacqueline, please introduce our esteemed
guest today.
Okay, we have Afton Williams.
If you follow me on Instagram, you know her.
She's my bestie.
She's my drinking partner.
She is my confidant.
She is my Instagram boyfriend.
Before you had one.
Before I had a real Instagram boyfriend that was also my boyfriend.
and she's the best and she fucking kicks ass at makeup and hair thank god thank god how did you
guys meet um jack and i actually met uh playing beer pong the sexual voice i've always thought
that and i've never said that well i'm gonna tell you something this is what i went to school for
so coming into this closet it's like me coming out of the closet back into my world of radio
like this is what i studied where you've meant to i put on the headphones and i i think my voice
went down an octave you that's what you're supposed to do you're like elizabeth let me
tell you the headlines um but no so i i went to school at chapman and jack i think we met no we
met at a fourth of july party you're both there were drinking games involved we were wearing
bathing suits i'm sure i was actually wearing my sorry for partying jack vanek shirt i remember
on brand but yeah we met at a party in huntington beach on the fourth of july but like i meet people
at parties they don't become my best but we met through mutual friends so it was like the group
was already you know kind of solidified and it was just like meeting an extension of the group
that you hadn't already met it was a friend of a friend and then we bonded over a pair of game
of beer pong yes we both of our partners didn't show up or we didn't have partners for this
tournament and we were kind of like oh guess we'll be partners and then it was like i threw a ball
she threw a ball we looked at each other and it was like the stars aligned and we had and now like
god forbid you're at a party with the two of us together because like louise should be like like
i know you guys are gonna be partners because we can't be with anyone else yeah no and jared comes
here i'm like you're not my partner get out of here um and so you grew up in california i grew
up in oak park so like the valley kardashian kardashian land i actually have a picture of
my brother in a kiddie pool with courtney and kim when they were kids yeah chris oh i can't
probably say this but anyway chris went to a dinner i'll just do it he's gonna kill me i think
chris told me a story about one time he was like at a fancy dinner um when he was like an intern
and he was really young but kim would have been like 10 years young like 10 years younger like 10
and she was like crawling around on the floor like a dog asking for tables
oh my god it's like when she was paris hilton's intern yeah oh my god wait that's amazing yeah
that's such a good story just like us we all pretend to be a dog when i was six my mom asked
me what i wanted to be when i grew up and i said i wanted to be a mouse so it's amazing i remember
the first time that i was ever like felt sexually aroused was when i was pretending to be an animal
oh my god you're just in line with your animal instincts i remember i got i don't remember like
why but i was in do you remember those well you know i have like a hanging basket chair yeah okay
you remember when there used to be ones that like came on a stand yeah i was at someone's house they
had a basket chair we were all playing like capture and so like you're an animal and you'd
get captured and like i loved getting captured and this is like very weird to like age yeah so
My being an animal story, and Jack actually loves this one, is when I was younger, and
you know, you always used to play house, and I would play it with my two brothers and our
neighborhood friend, Kelsey, and they always made me be the dog.
I couldn't be the baby or the dad or the mom.
They're like, Afton, you're the dog.
Just go over there.
How did that affect you?
I think you love dogs.
She's wearing my sweatshirt that says, Love Fast Pet Dogs.
Okay, let's ask about some of the things that Jack loves.
Okay.
Oh, God.
Oh, like a quiz.
yeah so does just jack's love of the french bulldog okay are you into the french bulldog
i love beth more than most things and i'm fully supportive of beth yeah she loves beth but she
loves pugs more than she loves frenchies i was a pug girl growing up yeah they're just a variation
of the same type of dog the lady gang has jack ever dated someone that you're like i hate that
guy what do you think about voldemort my ex-boyfriend no but he was a trickster he wasn't
i loved him yeah everybody loved him he was great i mean aren't we don't we not talk about it or do
we we talk about it i just have never said his name again so he's known as voldemort um i don't
know i thought i thought i wasn't 100 on board see here's the thing with him is he fooled everybody
but everybody knew like in their gut or the back of their mind that there was something
off about him but the thing about him that was that like you could have fun he was social and
he was charismatic so you could have so much fun with him so it's hard you could like talk talk
talk all this shit on like what you think like you know what are your motivations here in this
relationship but then when you're playing beer pong with him you're like this is great yeah he's
great so you get swindled what do you think of um jerry i love jerry so much i mean i was there
when they reconnected tell me about that so i was there for all of it it was there she were
she got what happened we were like out one night and we came home and she got a text that was from
jared jared i hadn't talked to him in like four years either and it said a little birdie told me
that you'd be coming to warp tour and she was like i don't think i i don't think i even know
when when's warp tour so we like scramble google when's warp tour and she's like should we go and
then you know i know the whole backstory of jared i'm like wait have you guys ever made out before
possibly have you had you slept together before no no never slept together but way back when
way but like when i was like 22 right i probably shouldn't have been making out
because you're a girlfriend oh so we got our things together
it's okay water under the bridge we got a motel up in ventura for the night before warp tour and
we went up and then we um we went and hung out with him like on the tour bus her and jerry were
like an immediate match and i convinced myself to like the drum tech this is the thing with
afton is afton is the best wing woman in the entire world and in my single life we would go
on vacations or we'd go for like a weekend or we'd do something and i'd meet a guy that i liked
and afton is such a proponent of having a good time that she would convince herself to like the
guy's best friend just so we could all have a good time he could be a literal literal schizophrenic
And I'm like, he's the one for me.
Like, if he's Jack's guy's best friend, like, we are going to paddle down a river together and we are going to make this work.
And how often has that worked out for you?
Every single time.
Well, not like worked out to, like, love of her life.
No, I've never fallen in love with the person.
But I do.
I 360 scam myself.
I go into it and I'm like, I'm going to convince myself to like this person just for the weekend.
And then, like, he'll not text me.
And I'm like, what the fuck?
Like, why doesn't he like me?
I don't even like him.
The problem is, okay, so I'd always go for the hot guys.
who are douchebags with like shitty personalities
and Afton would always like the best friend that was like
not as hot but like had a great personality
and they'd actually end up being the cool guy
yeah and then it would end up being
a thing yeah but
you know okay so you're Jerry they're
on the bus you're doing the best friend
oh I did the best friend thing and then
I mean it was just like it was like
they had known each other like they
did but it's like they had been together forever it was like
the stars aligned like I just watch it and he was
he's just such a sweet guy
but he's in a band and this concerns me and you know what this has concerned me for a long time
and i'm glad we're talking about it great i have a list of five guys you should never date yes
an actor actor i've done that uh athlete i've done that club promoter club promoter i don't
think i've been there dj and musician yeah yeah four i think four out of five i probably did
date a promoter but i blocked i'm really good at blocking things out of my memory yeah she does
And so I'm concerned because, you know, it's hard out here for a musician's girlfriend.
I mean, listen, that was against, especially since two of the three of my ex-boyfriends
were musicians, I was like, never again a musician, never again long distance.
Here's my take on things.
Like, I do believe in deal breakers and I believe in that type of thing.
But in the scheme of dating and like trying to find your future person, you have a list
of things that you want to find in that person.
Jared has all of those.
So what are they?
Tell me.
I mean, like he is, he's caring, he's engaging, he's selfless, the most selfless person I
think I've ever met.
Um, like he'll drop anything to do.
Not only if like, if I called Jared and I was like, Jared, I'm in this place, what can
I do?
Like he's very empathetic.
He's very empathetic.
Um, he's super fun.
He's social.
He loves to drink.
He loves to play games.
He loves to do things that are like, have you, has he done the Enneagram?
What number is he?
He's a nine.
That's what Chris was.
Yeah.
I got to put that in my, do you know, I did this up.
first Kelty and I got what you were. And I was like, I need to take it again. No, Becca and I
are the same too. Hold on. I have a whole page for all the people. Oh my God. Your Bujo is out
of control right now. I know. It's so good. Okay. Hold on. Where is my Enneagram page?
Wait, what were you? A three? I was, um, you're the same as what I am. No, I did it, but I did
it. So that was when I did the one that you didn't have to pay for. And then when I paid for it,
I got a different, can I add Jared? Yeah. Okay. Jared. He's a peacemaker. Number nine.
Jack's a seven.
Is there any other sevens in your life?
Oh, here's my test result.
Let me see.
Becca's a three.
And she's always like, we're not the same.
And I was like, we totally are the same.
But it's what...
We both want what the fuck we want.
Right.
The Enneagram's what drives you.
I'm a seven.
I'm the enthusiast.
Oh my God.
Oh, so you're like me.
That is the same as Jack.
I'm a seven.
I'm a seven, but you had a lot of twos.
But my seven and my three are almost exactly the same.
No, that's not the way Enneagram works.
No, no, look.
Yeah, this is my test, paid for test result.
That's what I told Kelsey.
is like i'm a seven but then like i'm also a three no no no like the way that you're a seven
got it like even though you scored 23 on seven and 22 on achiever you're not an achiever got it
you are an enthusiast which makes perfect sense okay so just to round out my story about jared so
so he has all these things you're happy to have my bujo right here that i'm so glad
so so if you're looking to add some sparkle to that page if he has this one thing that's actually
not like that important in the scheme of things you're looking for or not for a relationship
then so be it and also we believe in his music we believe in what he does it would be different if
he was a shitty musician and he's not no he makes he's good they're they run their band like a
business he's like in the version of the lady gang it honestly okay so here's the thing it's like i
obviously have an issue had an issue with that as well i'm like i'm not doing a musician i'm 31
years old like not for me but it's like it's 2019 and what they're doing and what we're doing we're
putting out content it's just in like different ways so it's like i kind of have to are you an
influencer or yeah i'm just like here's a thing um but it's like i have to let go of that mindset
and like afton said it's like i he has truly everything that i'm looking for in a partner
internally and nobody's going to be like 100 perfect so fight um we have had many heated
discussions but he is very perceptive and very understanding and like he's a nine because i can
literally be like dude i'm so straight up with him that i'm like this is bugging the shit out of me
and it is stuff that is very direct and like most people would be offended by it can i grab my
instagram book so we can learn about him sure okay hold on i like how this podcast has just
become like oh we have an inside track to jerry what can we ask no because i've never really
talked about him on the podcast before no you haven't talked about him not like not in depth
and then okay okay so i have now i'm back we have our enneagram book it's called oh a lot of people
asked me about this book it's called the enneagram for the spirit i made everybody in my life take
the enneagram because i think it's so really helps you honestly i think the enneagram has
saved the lady gang i know that sounds so crazy because i know you guys wanted to kill me and you
were right at the point where you're like we're gonna have to murder her like we have to get rid
of kelty we really were never like that by the way but i felt that way but then i learned about
your enneagrams and now i know how to love you i think that i think that you have definitely been
putting in the energy because like you're the way that you're going about the enneagrams is like how
do i interact with the people that are in my life in a way that is like beneficial for them yeah
yeah yeah kelty needs to know other people's more than like they need to know it because she just
needs to know i'm just gonna be how i am but i need to know like jack is a seven oh you're seven
too so let me tell you a little bit about yourself um okay sevens at their best are optimistic
enthusiastic curious entrepreneurial imaginative spontaneous at their worst rebellious narcissistic
scattered this is one of jack's things this is my biggest fault that kelty hates about me is how
scattered i am but that's the thing she's so creative and when you ask her to do something
if you're like when jack decides to focus on something and brilliance poops out yeah but it's
like but she'll be like like she can't she has to get right in the right spot to do it and then
she does it um over talkative not me but i'm an introvert though i could talk a little bit
your um repeating habit is rationalizing oh my god that's me i rationalize everything you do
how do you think i end up with jock's guy's best friends all the time oh yeah and my like
my purchasing thing where i do price per wear and i break everything or like price per use i can
rationalize that is rationalizing here's some of the ways to love you both you and both jack and
afton okay one of the things i learned about jack is that you have to give her plenty of freedom
that the more you like try to hanker her down she'll just revolt yes um listen to oh don't
lean on them too much by being needy and dependent rather than try to change them appreciate the
sparkle they bring to your life yes don't tell them what to do suggest whatever might be a fun
trick us trick you you know what sounds fun i do that acknowledge the effort they put into
the commitment when they do have you noticed that for me yes i'm definitely like way to go jack
you did a great job of that project no one said that to me when i did a project but anyway so
anyway i'm glad that that's i wanted to actually hey i do appreciate that because so we're writing
a book right now the lady gang book which i don't think we're supposed to announce but okay cool
We've announced it before.
I mean, we're talking about it.
We haven't like announced it.
Whatever.
We're writing.
We're working on an exciting new project.
We're working on an exciting new project.
Coming soon.
But you have been very good about being very supportive and acknowledging what I've been
doing.
And I appreciate that.
Your process.
Yeah.
I'm like, go get a girl.
Like, I'm like, ooh, it's Friday.
What do I have to get done on my to-do list?
Ooh, write a chapter of the book.
I do it before I go to bed because I can't.
But like, that's not Jack.
I need to go next weekend.
I'm going down to San Diego.
I'm getting a hotel and I'm just going to write.
Right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right.
Yeah.
Anyway, I love that.
Next time we'll get into it.
Well, do you want to know how to love me?
Sure.
I'd love to tell you.
Let me see.
Let me know.
Follow whatever list you make for me.
Okay.
Yeah.
Follow directions.
Nine.
Nine's at their best.
Mediators.
Reassuring.
You're not a nine.
No, I'm not.
You're right.
I was like mediator.
That's definitely not me.
Type three.
It's my way or the highway.
Okay.
At their best.
Generous motivators
Decisive
Authentic
Practical
Optimistic
Confident
Industrious
Self-motivated
At their worst
By the way
Any threes out there?
The three is the
F***ing worst to be
The rest of the flaws
Are like
She can be hungry
My scattered
Yeah
Listen to my flaws
Vain
Narcissistic
Overly competitive
Deceptive
Overly competitive
No
Pretentious
Ruthless
Impatient
Superficial
Emotionally unavailable
passion deceit this girl sounds like a dick you're you're uh false or like could be a psychopath
yeah yes narcissists how you can help a three are you guys ready to help me oh god there's five
encourage me to make a task of relaxing oh my god that's the most you thing in the world
for example scheduling yoga or meditation praise me you're the person that's like from one to two
i will do anything praise me say you love me even when i haven't done anything oh my god
notice or encourage my emotional responses when i have a soul unresponsive yeah so when i'm like
when you're like wow that was really soft okay like wow you actually have a feeling okay notice
and draw to my attention when i'm producing status driven responses like when i look at
the downloads of lady gang and screenshot them and send them to you nightly maybe be like hey
healthy once a week is good okay encourage me to you encourage me to do one thing at a time with
my full attention i've never done that in my life you've been trying though you've been focusing
more you've been trying to read emails thoroughly i did not this week she did not this week it's
just a great story i don't know if it's going to go on the show but you can tell it so for our
happy ending of this show we had to do the emoji challenge where yeah where they gave us a oh i've
already heard this story oh you did well tell everyone well our listeners haven't well i hopefully
this part makes it in the show we film a lot that doesn't end up making it but so we each had to
like create an emoji like a picture of us to create the emoji and we're all going to surprise each
other but during the show when we're filming so they send us the examples and like hey reply us
without the girls on it and what does kelty do she skims and it was like black letters do not
reply all to this email and i'm like i'm at this press junket let me do it i took the picture and
i just like sent it back to the email and they're like you're an idiot and then i pretended like
that's not what you were the kid in elementary school like remember that test that they used
to give you on like the first day of school and it was like read all the instructions first before
you fill out the test and then the last instruction is do not fill out the test and turn over your
paper and kelsey's the person that turns in like i didn't hear it and it's like every single thing
filled out because all she read was the first thing and she's like i'm gonna do this and i'm
The first person to finish, I'm going to do it great.
Thank you for shaming me.
Didn't you not just read The Best Ways to Love Me?
This is not a love guilty.
You should be saying that I just need some time for yoga.
Okay, well, that's it.
Afton's going to stick around.
We're going to do an Afton Part 2 next week because you're going to help us with our makeup and hair.
Okay.
Okay, bye.
Wait.
We weren't here for a long time, but we're here for a good time.
What?
What?
I changed it.
Okay, ready?
We're not here for a good time.
No, we're not here for a long time.
We're here for a good time.
Afton knows it.
Bye.
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