LadyGang - LG QUICKIE: Katie Lowes
Episode Date: April 14, 2022Actress on Scandal, Inventing Anna and the new CBS sitcom How We Roll, Katie Lowes, has somehow made time for Keltie and Becca to chat about all of her many jobs, including breastfeeding. Fin...d out how her babies brought her blessings and what she thinks of the ladies consuming so much junk food. Check out our amazing sponsors!!! Daily Harvest: Go to DailyHarvest.com/lady to get up to $40 off your first box! Ro Derm: Prescribe to Ro Derm to get 10% off of eyelash growth serum at RoDerm.com/ladygang Progressive: Get a quote at Progressive.com to join the over 27 million drivers who trust Progressive!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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girl posse with Lady Gang Quickie. Here's Kelty Knight, Becca Tobin, and Jack Vanek.
Let's make this quick.
Hello, hello, hello. Welcome to the Lady Gang Quickie. I am Becca here with Kelty and America's
favorite guest co-host. That's right, everyone. Who do we have, Kelty?
Oh my God. I can't believe that she made time for us, everyone. Why? Because Katie Lowe's
is here today. She was a guest on Lady Gang years ago when we used to all sit in the same
years ago we used to sit in the same room oh my god we didn't know zoom was a thing we didn't
know about zoom we didn't know about this she was not she was not a guest star in our lives yet
and here's what's great we definitely fell in love with her when she was on scandal but it's like
literally the that was the biggest show in the world and it's like old news because now she has
500 million other huge jobs uh she slayed inventing anna on netflix i know everyone watched that she
is the star of the new cbs feel good sitcom how we roll we're gonna get into that and of course
she hosts the best mama podcast in the game, Katie's crib. It's back for season five. Are you
so tired? I am. And a new, new mother of two. Yes. I'm a new mother of two. I have a four year
old and a one and a half year old. No, I, you know what? I, I feel like nothing compares to
as hard as I worked in my twenties when I was running around from like shit job to shit job
with like, like that was really hard. And then I was like up all night drinking and like cooking
up with my now boyfriend, my now husband, then a boyfriend, but like, you know what I mean? So
it's just different. It's just different. I'm tired in that. I feel old. Like I'm approaching
40 and like, I feel like, wow, like I get why people have children at like 22, but also no,
because I was so broke and so, um, and a mess mentally, but, um, yeah, maybe I'm tired. I don't
know i'm numb i don't have feelings anymore she's a robot she's a happy sunny robot who who has 800
jobs and so much energy guys there are things like coffee that helps great you know there's
things like alcohol on weekends great there's i know i'm still breastfeeding so oh that's tough
you gotta you gotta get those test strips yeah oh my god i did one of those test strips once
when do you know what these things are no wait i have no idea explain this okay so you squeeze a
little bit you squeeze a little bit of your breast milk onto a strip and if it turns like gray or
black it's like holy shit there's alcohol already in your breast milk i went to my friend who's this
wonderful actress jen finnegan's house she's married to johnny silverman we had babies within
a week of each other and we were like let's like have a dinner like pretended like our lives haven't
drastically changed and we are still who we once were and like let's get wasted and we were
breastfeeding our kids at the table after having like copious bottles of wine and she was like
i have these strips we should do it and i was like yeah totally and mine came back
black in one second after i had breastfed my child but like whatever i'm so chill about that
shit like i i mean not like i feel like i'm trying to not condone like alcohol breastfeeding like
obviously but i also like i just like whatever i also think we're ridiculously overly careful
and cautious and and sometimes mommy just needs to get wasted for her mental health thank you
and that's just as important exactly you know what was the most shocking part of this story
is that you can squeeze your own nipple and milk comes out is that real oh i could squeeze i wish
i could if this dress didn't have like a very weird zipper in the back i would whip a teat
out for you right now and just spray the screen. Oh yeah. You can manually like a cow, like you
have udders. Like I could like squeeze it like this hand it's called hand express Kelty and you
just squeeze and you irritate your nipple. And then it comes out. But you know, what's crazy
is one time I was breastfeeding in high altitude, like, you know, high altitude does really weird
shit to your body. Was it like a Coca-Cola can that you shook up? It was yes. Like my kid was
like choking there was like milk like do like it was projectile in a perfect like huge waterfall
curve coming out of my body uncontrollably it was the venetian fountain just exactly
crying the clickbait's gonna be like katie lowe's bragging about her breast milk production
And you know, it is, it is something to be breastfeeding is incredibly triggering.
It is very, um, it's makes absolutely no sense.
And it is total luck of the draw.
It doesn't matter if you have big boobies, little boobies, boobies that have been surgically
altered boobies that are old, new, young, old, it doesn't matter.
It's a total crap shoot.
and it's so triggering because it really strikes such a such a feeling of failure in women a lot
of friends that I have when they can't do it or they're not a producer or they don't have they're
not milkmaids or their freezer stash isn't full or they have to supplement with formula and it's
awful it's just awful it's we're so hard on ourselves and we're so and it's so weird because
I think it's women judging women, but I, a lot of my friends, it's them judging themselves. It's so
awful. It's so sad. And it's like, yo, yeah, you need that on top of everything else you're going
through hormonally, emotionally with it. You just have had a baby. I mean, it's really hard. Um,
and breastfeeding was one of the hardest things I've ever had to do because here you go. Click
bait. I have inverted nipples. Okay. You can Google what that looks like. So what that means
is breastfeeding is not easy because if you have nipples that look like a bottle top like like a
bottle you good if you make milk and your nipples look like that your baby's gonna latch on and it's
easier for them my nipples are like inside my body and needed to be pulled out by my child which was
the most i'm not kidding painful experience i've ever been through my entire life i had fissures
a breast surgeon was like here are your options i can either sew up your breast because it was cut
in half from breastfeeding or you can just pretend you're in a place where the only sustenance and
nutrition your child is going to get is from your boob and if you just keep putting it on it and
living through the pain it will heal itself and it did and it was awful yeah breastfeeding is not
it is up guys it is a journey it is a journey and some and i always say god i've had a lot of coffee
I always say something's going to get you somewhere.
Oh, yeah.
Like in mother.
Something's going to get you.
If breastfeeding was not your shit show mountain to climb, it's something else.
It's something else.
It's something else.
So like someone I know who might have breastfeeding journey was super easy, but their labor was like a shit show.
Someone who's pregnancy, you know.
So it's just different stories for different people.
And some things are going to come easy and some things are going to be really hard.
And that's life.
Mother.
Katie no do you know that Becca has a baby now baby via surrogate but I saw surrogate mommy
drops off bottles and then that's so cool yes I didn't know that was part of it yeah I mean it
doesn't have to be it kind of has to be obviously it's a mutually you know we it's something we
both agreed upon for how much time yes I think it's you have to pay is it extra cost in the
contract yeah I've had I've been through this with friends too yes so as long as she wants to do it
we're happy to take it and at the moment she's like i can't do this anymore i'm like great go
live your life like i you know there's no pressure on either side um because also there's such great
formula like this amazing formula this bobby formula i mean this is not mad but i'm just so
stoked that this exists right now because i do think that that got me over this the paranoia
and the stigma of like putting something chemically developed into your body i was anxious about how
old is your baby right now six weeks old today oh i know you have to come on my podcast too
katie's crib but like later let's like get you out of like this i'm in fresh fresh um vulnerable
raw nerve territory yeah yeah yeah yeah i almost i was weeping yesterday because he saw himself for
the first time in the mirror and was like so happy to see himself and i'm just weeping and crying and
my husband walks in and he's like, what is happening? I'm like, well, this is the beginning
of the end. Get out of my life forever. I have a new man. And the beginning of like, yeah, bye-bye.
And also it's like your heart is outside of your body. Like it's the greatest and the worst. Like
you're just like, why did I? So wait, my entire happiness is contingent on whether or not this
thing that's outside of anything I can control has a good day or a bad day. What a nightmare.
what a nightmare like what what the did we get bamboozled into is what i want to know it was
crazy i don't know i don't i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know i i'm still in the
like i'm very honest about like some days i'm like i think this is amazing and some days i'm
like this is like do you find though i had a moment this morning where i was up at five you
know because i had to be because i had a screaming human in my face and um i had no other option but
to be so productive to like, I was like, some days he's a, he's a demon and I can't get anything
done. And thank God we, we have this wonderful nanny that comes and helps us, but you have no
other choice. Like I'm more productive now than I was my whole pre baby life. Right. Cause you have
to be, there's quality over quantity, something that used to take you an hour to do when you have
10 minutes, you have 10 minutes. And like that has definitely shifted for me too. I have this
conversation a lot with girlfriends of mine too, that like are very worried about their careers
changing or not being looked at as X, Y, or Z anymore, or, you know, having a priority shift
where I don't want something to be more important than my career or, you know, and they're, these
are huge questions that everyone has to ask themselves. But I, I do have to say a lot of
my friends have seen glorious full huge successes post baby you know you told i and i and i'm like
psyched about that because i'm like let's rewrite the script on like i had a baby and now my career
is over or i'm no longer sexy or i'm no longer hire hireable or whatever because that is not true
i don't think it's true that you can have it all i think that's a load of bullshit now you know
what's so funny is that years ago before the pandemic, I was, I was at your house and we
were talking about babies and I was in the throes of fertility struggles. And I was like, yeah,
maybe I'm not like, I said something along the lines of like, well, I haven't really done anything
in my career that I'm like super stoked on. So maybe my career is waiting to blossom. And you
said, no babies bring blessings. And I have said that to so many people. And I, it's so it, that's
something that you said that really stuck with me and it was only one time. So I'm so glad. I
wonder i can remember who the hell told me that but i really i really believe that and for men
too i just really i i just think that that's a narrative that's complete horseshit i can give
you eight million women right now who have booked the jobs of their fucking careers after they've
become mothers i just don't think that that shit is true and uh and is silly yeah like just absolute
and and i was told myself that too for a long time and your career has to be in a certain place
before you're going to throw in the towel and get married or, and everything I was going to plan
had to be in this order and this way. And the sooner you can realize that it, you have absolutely
no control of any of that and to just get your happiness. However, whenever it comes and the
order of it or what comes first and what comes, none of that is important. Yeah. Your happiness.
I love that. Well, Katie, I want to ask you this about, um, this new show. So, you know,
i i think this is very interesting because i'm sort of of the hollywood watcher where i believe
that everyone has you know unless you're meryl streep and no offense to both of you but like
you're not meryl streep and that's okay what do you mean oh i'm not and that's okay yet but like
other than meryl it's like i really do sort of believe like you get that thing that you're known
for and then you get all the other things but like people are always like becca can go climb
mount everest and they'll be like kitty wild on glee like they they can't forget it or like you
for scandal and i and i think it's really interesting so like to be to like to be a part
of another juggernaut with inventing anna like this must be like kind of a mind because you're
like wait is it me am i no me it's definitely it's shonda it's shonda rhymes it's not me
but it's me in that shonda knows i'll do anything any part till the end of time that she if she
wants me to play waitress number four from the left i don't give a shit um so it's definitely
shonda and then but then to make like almost like this is almost a right turn because cbs like this
is a different feeling show this is i want people to feel good in their homes when they're cooking
dinner with their children and putting their kids to bed and bathing them and not well don't bathe
them while you're watching the show but like i just i know or you can it's okay like this is
this is a this is a this is just a warm hug of a show yeah and um were you terrified were you
excited about the difference of it i was terrified i mean in all honesty when i when little katie
thought about what i was going to do i thought i was going to be doing a mom on a sitcom like
that's what i wanted to do i grew up watching three's company cheers and then it grew into
you know seinfeld everybody loves raymond king of queens like this shit was what was always on
in my house i grew up in queens new york like nobody went to college the tv was always on and
it was always a multicam sitcom so when i thought of acting it was theater first because i grew up
outside of new york so theater was like a master's presence but then it went right to multicam like
i didn't grow up watching like critically acclaimed movies or shit like that like no
and so when i moved to la i was like i just want to be on friends or like anything like that
and that quickly didn't happen it quickly like i went into the guest star territory of like okay
law and order without a trace ncis drama drama drama drama drama and look girl i love to fucking
cry i feel great about crying i can cry in command i fucking love it i feel like it is such an
emotional release I love it I'll cry all day all night I'm really into it I love it I really do I
think it's super important and I love going to work looking people like oh no you have to cry
I'm like I cry all the time and then as soon as it gets hard and it's like hour eight I call for
the tear stick because honey I'm not Meryl Streep that's Meryl Streep the fact that you go like
eight hours of crying I can get I can go a while oh no I can go a while before I'm like jamming
foreign objects in my eyes and like creating like actual ocular damage. Um, and putting
menthol Vicks vapor rub in my eye, like anything to get a tear, like anything to get a single tear
rolling down. Um, but the whole time I've, I've always said like, man, I really hope I get to do
a comedy. I really want to do a comedy. I really want to do a comedy. And I really always wanted
to do a multicam because the theater nerd in me, the way multicams is shot is like, you're doing a
little one act play every single week and I used to when I first showed up to LA I used to go to
live tapings every Friday night to like study and like and it's that rush that theater rush that
like they call the actors out the actors take a bow people fuck up they're running in new lines
you're getting alts like say the joke like this say the joke like that it's not landing like I
just always in my heart was like first of all fucking terrified me which knew I had to do which
makes me feel like I have to do it. Um, and I just think at the place where I'm at in my life
and what we've gone through and what we've been going through, I was really interested in going
to a job for the first time ever where I like, wasn't crying. Like I was like, I want to go to
work and make people laugh and talk about some like hopeful shit. And then I'm going to come
home to my kids and not like be out of my mind. I mean, I can remember doing these scenes on
scandal and coming home and like eating full pieces like full pizza pies because i was so
emotionally fucking wrecked i don't even know how i would tuck my kid in after a day of murder
yeah and rape and being torturing this person look it's great i i can't wait to do it again
i can't wait to do it again but i also this is my other saying this is this ain't your practice life
you have one life to do what you want to do and it's like okay cool i did that kind of thing
this is cool this opportunity I want to try this kind of thing and then I don't know I also want
to do a horror movie and run around screaming I also want to do like I mean I just think like I
just feel really lucky to try that said being on multicam is the hardest scariest thing I've ever
done I am on the show with juggernaut comedians I mean Pete Holmes is a literal savant like in
terms of landing jokes and doing jokes and i'm out of my mind i'm so intimidated i ask him for
so much help i'm like why aren't they laughing he's like you gotta walk them to the joke and
this that and the other thing and i'm like i don't know what the you're talking about
i mean it's hard and i think that that's good like it's it's hard in a way that i am new to
and i enjoy a challenge and i also am really happy to be part of a show that's
like you said, like just cozy and warm and hopeful and family and kind of what I need right now.
Well, when we come back, we have a special game-ish trivia prepared just for Katie's
new show called How We Roll. And we're going to do that with Katie.
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the lady gang all right katie lowes is back host of katie's crib podcast which is in season five
you can get it wherever you get your podcast of obviously you're re-watching scandal you're
watching inventanano we're already over that now we're on to her new cbs show how we roll it's
thursdays on cbs okay so in honor of your new show i put together some how we roll questions
so this is like a rapid fire trivia round can't wait i'm terrible and we're gonna ask you like
how you roll is like how you do your day. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. I like it. I like it. How we
roll. And Becca's going to answer too. I'll answer too. Um, okay. How we roll go to junk food,
uh, cinnamon pop tart and diet Coke from seven 11. That is horrifying Kelty. I'm
for you. I am horrified for you. Okay. My go-to junk food. I mean, it's what the kids have. So
it's like goldfish and an oreo mine's a mine's a uh cream cheese sour what is it the my favorite
chips alex oh cheddar and sour cream and onion well sour with that but the cheddar and sour
cream chips are yo that's nasty though that is some chemical nast that i am here for i love it
it's like a warm hug um how we roll your excuse to hide from your kids that isn't like a good
excuse but like oh i have to i say i have to go to the bathroom 1 000 times a day i'm convinced
that my children think that something is wrong with me i say i either have to take a pee or a
dump and yes that's the type of language i use around my children because i'm a great mom yeah
i'm like i'm gonna go and literally you all know what i'm doing i'm sitting on my phone yeah
meeting on the bathroom floor yeah just like don't talk to me and the door locks so it's a miracle i
do this thing now if i don't want to feed the bot like if i've done like four bottles in a row and
I'm like, okay, I need like 30 minutes to just chill. Um, I will tell Zach, I'll be like, you
know what? If you just start the feeding, I got to pee and then I'll be back. And then I don't come
back. Ooh, really good. Really good. Okay. How we roll things. We spend money on when we're
stressed that make no sense. Well, I mean the Amazon cart, this, this save for later is just
a horrible nightmare, but I also do dumb shit where I'm like on shop bop or like a net-a-porter
And I'll like order stuff
And know that I can like return it all
And it'll be like the middle of the night and I'll be stoned
Or something like that and I'll order shit and all this stuff will come
Into my house and I'm like this is
Why did I do that I return it all
But like why am I stressing myself out now I gotta go
Return this stuff what do you do
Becca shopping and then I return everything
But mine's normally like a Zara
Because I'm not on the CBS multicam right now
You know so like
Oh no honey I do Zara too
I'll do a Zara haul
worse than the zara website you have to use the website it's like i don't know where i am
the matching pant i just tried to buy a pant and i was trying to see what the bottom of the
pant looked like because like but i couldn't see it because she was in the ocean she's walking
my problem now this i've become this stupid mother where like i'll just like go on etsy
and like research easter bonnet or like easter dumb shit in bunny ears because i need to force
my children to put bunny ears on for a photo. This is so dumb. Or like I have one photo from
an Easter when I was three wearing a bonnet. Now I'm trying to recreate my own childhood trauma
and put it on my children. Like I know that's what I'm doing and I'm doing it anyway.
Something for my therapist. I love it. I love an Etsy. Okay. Um, how we roll advice. We live by
this ain't your practice life. Babies bring blessings. Wow. She's an Oracle.
you can't take it you can't take it with you every day's a holiday wow um i think that's it
i mean she's covered the gamut i'm not sure about every day's a holiday i can't i'm not
sure i understand the sentence that was my alcoholic grandfather's saying which is like
big in my family because they're all big they're big drinkers that's not good every day's a holiday
is actually a bad one that no one should take to heart right i think the advice i live by is like
we are all good and bad it's like kind of easy forgive yourself when you're a bad person when
you're the bad guy and love yourself when you're the good guy but realize you are both and all the
people that you have to interact with are also both yeah lately what's getting me through the
day when i up with just all the time it's like you're perfectly imperfect like we're humans and
we're not perfect and just embracing the fact that that's okay okay that's just like a mentality that
i'm in you know what's also good for parenting repair rupture and repair rupture and repair
rupture and repair all the child psychologists that have come on katie's crib it's like
you up with your kid that's fine as long as like an hour or days later yeah you just say hey you
know when i did that and i blew my gasket and i did that i'm i just want to say i'm really sorry
about that that's all because you repair any like ruptures and it's like it just makes it so that
everyone knows we all make mistakes we're all perfectly imperfect some are some you're good
and you're bad and it's like but we're in this together and i'm big enough to say like i'm sorry
my behavior stunk hey i love this because not just with parenting but i think with everyone
the we talk about this all the time on lady gate the self-awareness to realize that when you've
been the bad guy and the self-awareness to apologize in a sincere way is like one of the
greatest gifts to get you through life and so you're teaching your kids that young 100 100 i
always say make better mistakes tomorrow i say it's a fridge magnet but like it's so true like
you're you're not gonna knock up and you're not gonna you're gonna offend people you're gonna
hurt their feelings unintentionally yeah and the whole like it wasn't my intention well yeah
obviously it wasn't your attention no one wants wakes up in the morning and they're like i want
to be the joker i'm gonna hurt somebody yeah exactly but like learning to feel those feelings
and be like, wow, I really hurt this person. And I'm going to say, sorry, is like huge, huge,
huge. Okay. Last one, how we roll. Okay. So this is personally just for me. Um,
the world is opening up. We're going back out into the world. I'm having to leave,
even though I'm in my, I'm in my lady gang set, but like we have to leave leggings behind. I'm,
we're meeting people out in the world. We need a casual go-to outfit that can take us like out
to do things but it's not our athleisure wear so what is you have to go somewhere where you have to
be kind of presentable but like you're not it's not an outfit what are you wearing i know it's
really hard i mean i'm still in the like my baby's 15 months old and like oopsie doopsie i need to
like get my body back but like that whole like bounce back that for baby hollywood not my story
Um, so I'm like still big into like a Ula Johnson dress or like, uh, you know, like
I need some sort of bigger sack dress, adult muumuu.
Yeah.
Like I need an adult muumuu because I'm not there yet, but the other day I did, which
was helpful.
I did put on a bell-bottom jean, which for someone who's needing just some more give
in the body department, a bell-bottom jean is a real blessing because the skinny jean was never
for me and is definitely not for me right now. So a bell-bottom jean with like a little bit of
a platform clog or something like that. And then just like a, I, it had been a minute, but like a
black classic suit, like blazer with a white t-shirt, like, and like a gold necklace. Like
it just felt like, okay, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool. I'm cool. I'm okay. I'm okay. I'm
Oh, my God.
I agree.
That's my go-to.
I got a really nice black blazer.
I got a pair of jeans that I love.
And every time I put them on, I feel good about myself.
And like a nice little T-shirt.
And I got a big sneaker.
I'm like six years later, I'm jumping on the sneaker trend.
Like I know.
The sneaker trend is where it's at.
It is.
I love it.
What are your sneakers?
Oh, I got them on the RealReal.
They're Gucci.
Love the RealReal.
Because I have.
Well, listen.
I do a Rothy's.
I do a lace-up.
Like I do a simple, but I just wanted, like, I was with, um, one of my, I was with one
of my housewife friends and I was like, I just want to be cool in this season of my
life.
And she's like, okay, well you need to like replace your sneakers.
She was like, you need like a better sneaker because you're wearing the right outfit, but
then you're wearing like, no, you'll step it up.
If you've got like, you have the wrong speakers, like very cool.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You need like a cool, trendy, bright, like thick sneaker.
I love a thick sneaker.
i love it so that's my that's my go-to becca what's your go-to well i had to go to a lunch
this morning so i or a brunch i don't know i'm in like a just how cute are you
like a little cropped shirt and then like an oversized oversized oxford thank you um
very cute and texas chic i'm so texas chic and i really like the nike high top i think they're
called the blazer the sneaker google that and i'm like and wrote my they're really cute and let me
just write that down blazer and um they're really cute and they're they're chic you can dress them
up dress them down and they're i think they're pretty pretty inexpensive so that's it this is
wonderful how we roll katie's new show is premiering uh it will have already been out
by the time this comes out thursdays on cbs we are so excited for you we're gonna support you
We're going to come to a taping.
Thank you so much.
I really – come to a taping.
Come watch us fall on our ass.
It's really just the most joie de vivre, like fun ride and high.
What days do you tape?
Thursdays?
Fridays.
Fridays.
It's a real night.
And if you want all the –
It's so fun.
All the updates on Katie.
I want to just shout this out because I think you have a weird Instagram name.
It's Katie Q Lowe's.
It's horrible.
Because I started that Instagram name when we just started this thing.
I know.
but you're super famous you could go yeah change that make a request you can get ask the cbs ask
the cbs uh team to go in and talk to their friends at instagram but anyway katie and katie's podcast
is in season five you can get it wherever you get your podcast katie thank you for joining us we
love you thank you kelty we love you i love you guys becca congratulations on your baby i'm here
for you always i am so happy thank you for taking the time thank you for plugging the show and much
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