LadyGang - LG QUICKIE: RHONY's ERIN LICHY

Episode Date: December 14, 2023

Erin Lichy quickly won over our hearts as the newest NY housewife; in this episode, the gang catches up to find out about the housewives wardrobe malfunctions, just how much sex she's actual...ly having with Abe the babe, her killer chic style, and the best thing about being a housewife. Plus, the ladies hang out and rant about the viral question, "What are some things you simply don't care about anymore in your 30s?" Check out our holiday deals!!! LightBox: Shop now at LightBoxJewelry.com and use code LADYGANG for 10% off sitewide Clearstem: Learn more about this revolutionary Anti-Aging / Anti-Acne skincare brand at ClearStemSkinCare.com  Angi: Download the free Angi mobile app today or visit Angi.com to get professional help on your next project!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:01:00 Hello, hello, hello. Welcome to the Lady Gang Quickie. I am here with Jack and Kelty and someone that I am personally quite excited to see. Kelty, who do we have? This is a very happy holiday gift to you, Becca, because I know this is your favorite new housewife, and we've talked at length about this, and so I'm very excited. Our guest today is the realtor-turned-real housewife who helped turn Tribeca from up-and-coming into happening. She showed up to BravoCon sans pants but full of clever one-liners, and we've fallen in love with her love of Abe the Babe, being a super mama to three kids, her cool boho style, and we love that she's her own lady boss. With her renovation and interior design company, Homegirl,
Starting point is 00:01:40 she not only sells you the house, ka-ching, then she renovates it and decorates it for you. Ka-ching, ka-ching. Oh, and if that's not enough, she's got a master's from NYU, so she's way too smart to be with us today. Please welcome the Real Housewife of New York's newest star, Erin Leachie. Hi, guys. Thank you for having me.
Starting point is 00:01:59 I'm so excited. Thank you for being here. My first question is, I'm... She's kicking it off. Do you always dress like that? Did you have help putting your looks to... Without pants. On the show, did you have help getting any of your looks together?
Starting point is 00:02:18 I feel like your fashions are my favorite that we've seen in many years. Thank you. Thank you. I definitely have my own style. I did have some help for like bigger events, you know, like my anniversary party, which was, by the way, an epic disaster. The malfunction. There were so many malfunctions going on that my dad was even like, what's happening?
Starting point is 00:02:38 Oh, no. Yeah. But no, I mean, I have my own sense of style. I grew up in the city. I feel like it's kind of eclectic. it's like a mix of vintage and new and I'll keep something that I've had since like high school and still like circulate it in my closet. So it's a mix, you know? I want to go back to the dress moment at the anniversary party. So Jack Vanek recently got married and I went to her wedding
Starting point is 00:03:04 dress fittings with her and I was a nutso banana because when you go to the dress fitting, you stand, right? You stand and you don't do stairs. You don't walk, you don't sit. And I was like, Jack, sit at this table. Jack, walk down those stairs, walk up. Because I've worn so many gowns in my life that I know when you try on a gown, you're like, this looks great. It looks amazing. And then to actually live in it for seven hours is a completely different story. Is that what happened at the party? Honestly, I think that it just wasn't situated right from the get-go. Like it should have, I should have been wearing like a bodice or something under it. Instead it was like taped down. The person taped it down. And so it flattened me and it was just like weird.
Starting point is 00:03:42 And it was also so heavy. It was like wearing armor. Yeah. If you held the dress in your hand, it would feel like you were holding a kettlebell. It was insane. Really insane. Okay. Who was, do you know who the first new hire was?
Starting point is 00:03:58 Like for Salt Lake City, they hired Lisa Barlow and then she like, it was built around her. Do you know how that went? I think it was you. It feels like it was you. it honestly wasn't because I was recommended by by Lizzie the girl that wasn't that's what you know didn't continue but she recommended me wait who's Lizzie so there was I well there was an original girl that was a new cast oh and then she got yeah but it's everywhere it's everywhere she was gonna be on the show with us uh-huh it was like listed as one of the people and then she
Starting point is 00:04:32 left like a couple weeks in so she actually called me in the summer and she's like hey you know i'm moving back to new york can you help me find an apartment i'm like okay sure and she was like oh and actually i might be on a show called housewives i'm like what like how do you fit in with those ladies and she's like no new cast and literally while we're on the phone she's like you'd actually be perfect like they're looking for more people so she sent me you know to the casting director And that was like, it happened really quickly, but they had already, there was already like a group. I think it was an original.
Starting point is 00:05:06 Someone told me, I don't know if this is also a rumor, but they said that you had been in consideration or in conversations in their original seasons, but you were too young for that group. That is true. Is that true? Okay. Isn't that crazy? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:19 Years and years ago, um, they asked to interview my husband and I like back when I, like, I mean i don't even think i think i may have just had one kid which feels like forever ago because i have so many um but yeah they interviewed abe and i in my apartment we like did it for fun and we were i think i was 26 wow yeah yeah too young we we are gonna talk about some things today but there is something i need to talk about i i started talking to you about it on the carpet uh at bravo con for e but i want to get a little more in depth here miss no pants on the show, it appears that you're having sexual relations with your husband a lot. And here at Lady Gang, we like to, we don't condone that kind of behavior.
Starting point is 00:06:07 And we'd like to get to the bottom of this. Now, first of all, this might be too personal. You don't have to answer it, but are you on any kind of antidepressant or birth control that could be shoving down your libido? And if the answer's no, then like, I kind of get it because I am on Prozac and I know that kills your libido. Yeah. And I was on Lexapro for many years, which my friends coined the term no sexapro. Yes. Yes. But if it was to lift your mood, wouldn't it make you like want to have sex? You would think one would think, but it doesn't. And I know firsthand. However, I want to know from you as a, I am a mother of just one singular child who's
Starting point is 00:06:50 not even two yet, who is running my life and the sex is not, it's not happening as frequently or as enthusiastically as it once did. Did you have lulls? I mean, that's a dumb question, of course. Obviously. But anyone who says they don't have them is lying. How do you get it back? honestly this is okay i'm gonna give you like the non-conventional tips right that's what we like
Starting point is 00:07:17 that's what i'm gonna get reading those those stupid like rom-commy books yeah oh yeah it's like oh and then he you know like his manhood throbbed yeah like that helps yeah i'm like okay now i can picture someone else why well that that is that's the key is picturing somebody else i feel like everybody's figured out in a long-term relationship in a lady gang facebook group literally yesterday i was looking at it and someone was talking about my libido so low what do i do and they call them smut books i don't know if that's like what it is and i was like give me the list of smut books i agree a sm you can't aaron you should start you're not your book club i do need a book club because i am an avid reader i read me too oh my god we're meant to be best
Starting point is 00:08:04 friends. So Colleen, what's her name? Colleen Hoover. Obviously I just bought, I think she just came out with a new book. I was at the airport. I was like, is this a new Colleen Hoover book? Cause I remember she was like, yes, 2022. It just came out. So I got, I just bought it actually. Yeah. Verity, her book Verity did make me horny. That was, that was her. That's what got me hooked on her books. There you go. That's a good, that's a good advice. And other tips for us, Erin. I'm reading a book now called Reckless Girls. Oh, it's good.
Starting point is 00:08:36 You should read that. Is it a sexy book? Is it good for my vacation? Yes. It's like such a beach read. I'm actually pissed because I don't, this probably happens to you if you're a reader, but like I was so into it last night that I almost finished it and I'm going on this beach vacay and I was like, this would be such a good book for the beach.
Starting point is 00:08:52 So like I wanted to stop reading it, but I couldn't. But anyway, it's such a good beach read. Okay, good. It has some smut in it. Okay, great. What does smut stand for? I don't know. I think it's like just like—
Starting point is 00:09:03 Sex, masturbating. No, it's not an acronym. I think it's just like a term. I've never heard of it. I think it's an acronym. Yeah. Please Google. We'll Google it.
Starting point is 00:09:12 Okay, so sexy books. And how do you not—so I'm selfishly using this time for me. Oh, my God. It's a fungal disease. No, that can't be what it is. No, it's, it's number two is fungal disease. Number one is dirt. Like there's some black smuts on the engine, but number three is obscene or las vicious talk, writing or pictures porn in this view is far from being harmless. Smut. Wait, I don't think anyways. Right. Anyway.
Starting point is 00:09:41 Um, it means obscene. It means obscene. As a working woman with three children, a husband, a life, friends, now another job. With child rearing, how do you not resent your husband when, okay, good. You don't even have to say when or where or how. But why is it suddenly you have a child and like, you go to your, it's like you literally go to your sides of like the wrestling ring. And it's like, it's like, there's no, there's teamwork. And you are a team in doing this with this child, but, but it's like, it's not like we've got this babe. It's like, I guess I'll do this right now.
Starting point is 00:10:23 Or like, I was getting my makeup done before jingle ball the other night. And like, I kept texting Abe cause obviously it wasn't home on Friday at five 30. Like, why would he be? And I'm like, Hey, we have to go to jingle ball soon. Like, are you going to come help me with the kids? And they're like running around and being so chaotic that my makeup artists just couldn't stop laughing. he was just like gosh this is really crazy right now I was like should I make us a drink and then
Starting point is 00:10:48 he's like please so I had to like make us a drink keeps getting crazier and then he comes and he waltz and he's like hey babe no hi can you help and he's like whoa whoa whoa chill out like literally textbook annoying husband behavior oh texting he goes to the bathroom for like 25 minutes. And my makeup artist is like, is he like, does he live on this planet? I just think it's like a weird, I don't get it. I don't know why he's in the bathroom for 45 minutes every time. Like, it's just this weird common thread that they're all somehow the same and they just don't get it. There's a heat that builds in my body when my husband announces he's going to the bathroom that I can't quite explain. I really can't. I'm like, how long will you be? That's
Starting point is 00:11:36 study about this that men do it's like they take that extra time to try to like get out of their responsibilities yeah that's their alone time that's why they're taking a shit they're stuck the fact that oh yeah go to the bathroom and spend 45 minutes like on our phone writing emails like yeah no we would feel so guilty that the world around us was burning to the ground because we're not there to save everyone and feed everyone and take care of everyone it's insane yeah of course we can't do that. No, no way. I hate men. All right. Aaron is here. And when we come back, we are going to play a little game. Eating well shouldn't be complicated, but somehow it turns into recipes, prep, cleanup, and half your Sunday gone.
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Starting point is 00:14:00 love someone who is, check out FIGS. Head to wherefigs.com and use code FIGSCA for 15% off your first order. That's wherefigs.com, code FIGSCA. The Lady Gang. Okay, we are back with Real Housewife of New York, Erin Leachie. Before we get into this game, I do want to, I'm impressed with you for being an entrepreneur and I want to talk about you you're a New Yorker
Starting point is 00:14:30 but you feel like Cabo to me you feel like a margarita and you have this tequila brand like you just I feel like you should be
Starting point is 00:14:37 in California but you're a New Yorker it's a weird interesting world you have a Jennifer Aniston energy but what's interesting is that Kelty says every time Jennifer Aniston
Starting point is 00:14:45 walks on a carpet it looks like she's just been f***ed in a limousine and had a margarita like in a great way yeah that's what she looks like that's the vibe. And that's your vibe. It's like, you're just a little like, I have that Cali vibe. I think I could, I think I could live a Cali life, but then I also feel
Starting point is 00:15:02 like I'd go crazy because it's so slow. Yeah. Yeah. How, tell us about the, tell us about the tequila and like, how is that going? And has housewife helped? No, it will. Um, so it's actually, it's in the skull brand. And the reason why, uh, we created, it's not tequila. I don't mezcal is tequila but it's like a smoky one yeah so tequila is mezcal but mezcal is not tequila and i'll tell you what oh basically tequila is only made from one species of agave which is blue weber but mezcal is made from like thousands of species and we actually put two together that is a blend that we really love um but it's also about the way it's it's actually distilled the process is very different and by mexican law tequila only has to be 51 pure agave and the
Starting point is 00:15:49 rest can be additives, which is why sometimes tequila is like creamy or has like vanilla and that mezcal by Mexican law must be a hundred percent pure agave. So that's, yeah. So it's zero sugar, zero carb, zero additives. It's way better for you. And actually doctors will say like, if you're going to drink an alcohol, not that they're saying you should be drinking alcohol, obviously say that, but they're, they say like, if you are to drink, you should drink mezcal mezcal because it's the purest version of alcohol what is the name of your mezcal brand it's called mezcaloom because you're picking up on my vibe tulum is my vibe yeah i love it so much it's like our happy place i we fell in love with it like 12 years ago ava and i on a trip
Starting point is 00:16:31 and every time i go i'm instantly like no shoes relaxed like it's just such a good energy and what i love about it so much is that you can party till four o'clock in the morning and then you can like wake up and have a green smoothie and take a yoga class. Yeah. Yeah. And that's really how I live because I'm not going to not have a spirited night and have fun with my friends, but I'm also not, as you probably saw on the show, like I don't get crazy trash that I can't wake up the next day and like have a day. Yeah. Although I probably should more often. But, but so that's really the concept of the brand. It's all about like balance and living like a healthy lifestyle. Nice. Oh my Narly. I can't wait to get some. It is dark. I don't, I get hung over if I drink wine,
Starting point is 00:17:18 but I don't. Me too. Okay. Well, I hope you'll be sending us some. Speaking of living our best life, today our game is called now that I'm in my thirties, some of us are in our forties. I don't care about that anymore. So Becca found this list online of, it basically said adults are sharing things they're refusing to do now that they get older. And I was like, this is so us. And I feel this so deeply. All right. So I'm going to start. And there's so many.
Starting point is 00:17:51 Like, this list was very long. But I'm going to start. Things that I don't care about anymore now that I'm in my late 30s. Plus a few. I don't care about calling the paparazzi on myself anymore. Wow. I used to really be into that. There was an era where I was in New York and it was fashion week and I was talking to Elder or I was talking to Edward, my two New York City paparazzi.
Starting point is 00:18:14 like my besties, literally send them a Christmas present. And I'd be like, Elder, I'm going to be walking out of here and I'm going to be here and they'd be like, great, we're going to get you. And then I was so... They're like, great, it's a slow night. We'll see you there. No, totally. And they're like, I can't right now. I'm on Kendall's track.
Starting point is 00:18:30 And I'm like, okay, cool. No, I'll see you. Well, come later. Come at five. He's like, okay. I'll come to you. Where is she? I'll walk by so I can get my picture taken, you know? And then I used to get, as you guys know, Aaron, you don't know this. It's so embarrassing. This is why you're not going to want to be friends with me in real life. But I'm going to make you. I used to have a binder that like
Starting point is 00:18:48 every time it was Us Weekly or whatever, Star Magazine, I like kept all the cutouts of the binder. And it was like very thrilling for me to be in like a Who Wore It Better. Her parents did not give her a lot of attention. This is the reason she can get away with this. Yes. And so anyway, it thrilled me. I've been in New York every week for the last four weeks. I have not called the paparazzi on myself one time. Wow. That is a huge feat for you. I'm just over it.
Starting point is 00:19:14 I don't care anymore. Put me in the Who Wore It Better. Give me a free shoe. I actually don't care. If I really want a shoe, I'll buy the shoe for myself. And it is not helping me. When I'm in the Us Weekly Who Wore It Better, thank you, Us Weekly, and continue to put me in if I look great. But, like, it does nothing for me.
Starting point is 00:19:31 It doesn't move the needle. It doesn't move the needle. And, like, I'm tired and I don't care. And I'm tired of being important. I'm just going to wallow away and be the nerd that I am. Jack, what are you over with now that you're, I want to be Aaron. I want to be in my bed. I want to be reading my book.
Starting point is 00:19:50 I want to be having my snuggle cozy thing I got at Marshall's that you put in the microwave for three minutes and it's like a little heating pad of lavender. That's all I want. Jack. Wow. Whoa. That was a lot. Um, well, I have like a, like a stupid petty one in a real one.
Starting point is 00:20:09 Okay. One is staying out when it's dark out. Now, this changes throughout the year. In the summer, I can stay out until, like, 8 p.m. and I'm feeling good. And in the winter, when it gets dark at, like, 4 p.m., I'm also going to bed. Like, I'm done trying to, like, be a night person. I'm done trying to, like, do things. Wow.
Starting point is 00:20:25 And I just want to be at home in bed when it's dark. Yeah. And then my other one is I'm done stopping to pretend. Stop. This is going to go along with it. I'm done with trying to pretend like I'm smarter or more interesting than I am with like my interests when I was younger I would read all these like very you know insightful books and I'd be like writing on my typewriter and I'd be listening to all these records trying to appear
Starting point is 00:20:52 that I'm like very interesting and like I'm a basic bitch and I'm okay with that and I'm done like spending my time doing that wow yeah that's good I am done with obligatory um celebrations I am done with your adult birthday parties. I am done with your children's birthday parties. I am done with your gingerbread making house parties. I am done with your, I am done with all of these things as adults that we think we need to keep planning and attending. I am so sick of being social.
Starting point is 00:21:21 I literally sent Chris to a Christmas party for our group, our friends alone. No. And I was like, I'll be going in the sauna and reading my book. I was like, you can't. I was like, I already said yes to you once this year. When Marcella was like, do you want to go to Vegas and see you two at the Sphere? And I was like, I really don't. I want to go in my sweatpants and read my book.
Starting point is 00:21:40 But then Chris was like, I really want to go. And I was like, fine. I'll go. And we took mushrooms and it was amazing, Erin. But like, I don't regret it now. But like, I was like, I already said yes to you. I went to a thing this year and I didn't go to the Christmas party. That's really something that like people want to do.
Starting point is 00:21:54 I know. Not like a children's birthday party. No, I agree. I'm not going to your shit. Don't invite me. I'm not going. Unless I'm being paid. As an adult, I want everyone to stop taking it personally when people don't show up.
Starting point is 00:22:06 Because also my friends and I have this thing, right? It's like people take things way too personally. Way too personally. We're busy. I'm like, don't flatter yourself. I literally haven't even thought about you in this decision and whether I'm going or not. It's whether I want to go or not. It's so, and so now my friends and I have a rule, like my close knit group where we say,
Starting point is 00:22:25 tell me if this is important for you, for me to show up. So, you know, my friend's husband participated in like this big charity thing and he raised all this money. It was so like a big celebration. And she sent a text out to all of us and she said, this is one of those times where I'm going to ask you to put on the fancy dress and please show up. He's worked so hard. Like, this is what matters.
Starting point is 00:22:46 And you get one a year if that, if that. And I appreciated it because then I was like, you know what, I'm going and I'm not going to second guess this decision because I know it's important. And then that's it. It's also a charity thing. It's bigger than him. Yes. It's not like a self-centered like bullshitty thing.
Starting point is 00:23:01 Erin, what are you, what are you over doing? So I had this phase. I mean, I guess the phase just ended, but where I always felt like I had to be friends with the people that I was friends with, like in college or in high school, like any of those friendships and sustain them. And now I just, there are certain people like I don't care to have friendships with. Yeah. And because they were like in a group of mine back then doesn't mean I need to still be close with them now. Oh yeah. That I feel like I've recently, like over the past probably year
Starting point is 00:23:35 or two years have completely shedded. Like, I don't need to answer you. I don't need to go to your event. Like we don't need to be best friends just because other people are in the group. So that has been. Yes. It's also just so nice to not have to respond to everybody that reaches out to you. Like to be able to just leave somebody on read that like you don't want to be friends with anymore. Like that's nice. I want there to be some, some movement, some sort of a movement in society where we can normalize not responding to a text message. Yeah. Right. Like I just, I still feel guilt to not respond, but I want there to be something where we can shift it and just be like a no response is okay. From a text message, that's like a, hey, how are you? Or how,
Starting point is 00:24:20 have you been right if it isn't like important right about something or even if it is important can you make it to my birthday dinner no to them it's important that's why I hate my birthday it's the worst I hate my birthday because I know this is like I'm such a dick for saying this but I hate my birthday because it's the one time a year where people actually text me and it's like just so many texts that I feel the pressure of having to be like hey thanks and I don't want send a copy and paste. I never respond to birthday texts. Do you respond to a birthday text, Erin? I think you don't have to respond to all the birthday texts. I feel like it's like one day a year that people are like, oh, she's probably busy. You know what I mean? Yeah, but I'm doing
Starting point is 00:24:59 this for me. They send them for themselves so they don't feel like a bad friend. You know why we're all doing it? Because we have those people in our lives that will hold it against us for not sending the birthday text. I don't always know exactly who it's going to be. I mean, I know the ones that are like for sure definitely but then if there's people on the fence I'm like I might as well just send the stupid birthday text and now it's gone a step further where it's like there are people that are going to be offended if you don't post on Instagram oh well I have a solution we have a rule we do not post birthdays none none unless it's like your child your husband there's literally and it it's it could be best best best friends that means that you're just
Starting point is 00:25:35 you don't even post them the the playing field is level that's the best thing I've ever learned from you the girls posted on my 40th because it was my 40th and that was like a big deal and they were both lovely and they knew that I would was very sad about it so they were like keeping me alive but like no we don't post on birthdays it's too much pressure and also it's like well and then it's like how many pictures are you posting are you just posting one are you posting four is it eight and then did you post feed did you post before the person posted like yeah you know when you're like thanks for all the birthday love but then you forgot it was the person's birthday and then you reach out and you're like, happy birthday. You know that they texted you because
Starting point is 00:26:10 you already posted about yourself. There's too many moving parts. Erin, I have a question for you. When you're, when you join the housewives, like it's obvious that they're just coming up with events to get everybody to, you know, like in our real lives, I feel like there's just not that many events in a year. Yeah. So that's the, that's the housewives. There are a lot of events in New York. Well, New York. Yeah. Yeah. But like, would you necessarily be throwing as many events yourself if you weren't on the show? Like, are you somebody who likes to throw things like Heather Dubrow is as somebody who's celebrated everything her entire life for always. I do throw events. I have people stay at my house all the time out east. That's like a real thing. I cook for my
Starting point is 00:26:56 friends. I have a girl. Yeah. How dare you? Like I do. I do. I do have a lot of events. I do. Okay. So that's why, that's why you got cast. Yeah. Cause they'd be like, well, well, Becca, what are you going to do on your season? She's like, stay at home and avoid people. Yeah. Like, um, okay. In my closet. Uh, last thing I want to ask you, Aaron, what is the best thing now that you are infamously a housewife and what is like the worst thing? Ooh, the best thing. And I'll say, I learned this from BravoCon was meeting the people that like, we've actually touched their lives in a positive way. Like so many people came up to me and said things like, you have no idea, like how you made me feel in this instance. And wow. Like I was
Starting point is 00:27:40 going through this too with like my son when he was potty training. And that was so funny. Like those types of conversations make me just happy because it's like more of a connection and it's deeper than just, you know, stupid drama. Yeah. The worst part I'd say is there are so many people that think they can just be mean to reality stars because we open up our lives. I think is like, really should be studied. Like that should be said in the bathroom because it's like they, they, they just feel like they have this free reign to just be horrible to us. really rip us apart in a way that I didn't know about until obviously I did it. And even like some of the like online, whatever news, you know, accounts that just like say terrible things and
Starting point is 00:28:27 judge us. That to me has been such a, like a shitty thing. And I don't know, like I just thought people were nicer and people, a lot of them just aren't nice. And I just didn't know that people could be so mean. So that's been the worst part. Do you think people are mean to like Natalie Portman the way that they're mean to like a housewife well no because they're when you're on a reality show you're yeah you're more accessible and also people justify it like you were saying where they're like you're opening up your live stuff you should let us give our opinions and judge you and whatever and I'm like to a certain extent yes everybody is allowed now to form opinions on based on what they have seen but like why do I need to share that if it's an
Starting point is 00:29:05 it's a terrible opinion talk to your girlfriends at brunch about it like why do you need to tell the person who you're watching on the screen like that how much you hate the parasocial relationship with that is so weird and the other thing is like they'll find anything like I literally ordered a latte on camera when I had that infamous conversation with Jess on Tribeca and I was like I'll take a latte with whole milk and I got like shit on all over social media who drinks whole milk you don't know about alternative milks I'm like oh my god and then like I was just reading something randomly i don't even know how i saw it on my feed this morning about how everyone's like shitting on ariana because she's making money for like what she had been through on vanderbilt
Starting point is 00:29:46 why is this a bad thing they just it's like no matter what they will attack you i mean like it's crazy all the kardashian things that you see with like chloe talking about how they abused her i feel like i've seen it and i've always been like okay sure like they probably are just whatever a little mean, but they probably tear her apart. Oh yeah. They're at like death threat level at this point. Like all of them have, I'm sure received some pretty gnarly things. Wow. Was there, you know how they say like all the mean things in the world can't really penetrate you and they never bother you unless it's something that you are actually insecure about or actually struggling with. Like, is that true? Is that true? Cause like if you're really secure in your
Starting point is 00:30:29 marriage, for instance, if they keep coming at you with your marriage and you know, it's fine, it really doesn't bother you, I would imagine. But it's the stuff that like you do have an insecurity about or are you insecure that you like whole milk? I think that's a good point. Like to a certain extent, yes. Like there's a there's a point where like just every all of it is annoying and like frustrating. But then there's another point of like, of course, there are certain things that sting you more like a couple of people commented on my parenting. It doesn't look like I'm with my kids at all, like on the show. And that like pissed me off and I wanted to like go after them. But I think that there's a point to what you're
Starting point is 00:31:09 saying. Like when people talk shit about Ava and I, not that we're perfect, but like that does kind of roll off more. I'm like, okay, you idiot. Like I can't order whole milk. So I think like there, yes. I think if there's truth to it, it's, or if you, if it's an insecurity. Yeah. Well, the mom guilt, it's like the best mother in the world could hear bad feedback and be destroyed by it. Also as a childless wonder, I'm very thankful that the housewives make you look like bad mothers because I don't want to watch you with your kids because I can go to my friend's house, all of them that have children and experience that any day I want. This is, I want you to be out and fashionable and being fabulous. Like, sorry, I'm sure you're a great
Starting point is 00:31:48 mom, but I don't want, actually want to see it because that is not what I want to see. This is an escape. Yeah. You're not watching a parenting show. This is not TLC. Okay. I mean, not even TLC has that anyway. Okay. Aaron, you're lovely. Congratulations on a stellar first season. I know you'll be back or I don't know. Um, I'm sure you will. If I was Bob, I'd have you back. I know you can't say anything about that. Um, but we're so excited. And, um, you have to come when you come to LA for press, come be with us in studio. And then also I would love, you know, to be a real friend. I will take you to the books. We will go get whole milk lattes. And then, well, I won't, but you will. She will call the paparazzi when she's with you. I'll call the paparazzi on
Starting point is 00:32:27 you. I did with Barlow once. I held a Vita. I held a Vita. Yeah, those were interesting picks. Yeah, I know. And then anyway, we'll go to a bookstore. Okay. We weren't here for a long time. We were here for a good time. Thanks for listening. The Lady Gang is produced by Alex ingber will sterling steve delameter and jared monaco make sure you subscribe rate and review our podcast and if you love it share it with your friends on social media like oh my god i just listened lady gang this episode's are great swipe up to listen and if you really want to which we know you do please follow us on social at kelty at becca at jack vanek and at the lady gang sign up for our newsletter at the lady gang.com and join our secret facebook group it's super fun
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