LadyGang - LG QUICKIE: Tommy Lenk
Episode Date: November 7, 2019The Trashcast man himself Tommy Lenk joins the pod to talk about his new show, acting, and turning trash into TREASURE! Shout out to today's sponsors! Thinx – Go to periodbetter.com and us...e code LADYGANG to get $10 off your first pair. Third Love – Go to thirdlove.com/ladygang to find your perfect fitting bra and save 15% off your first purchase. Thrive – Go to thrivecausemetics.com/ladygang and use code LADYGANG for 10% off your first purchase. Ziprecruiter – Try Zip Recruiter for free by going to ziprecruiter.com/gang . See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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It's time for a quickie.
Podcast One presents The Lady Gang, The Hollywood Girl Posse with Lady Gang Quickie.
Here's Kelty Knight, Becca Tobin, and Jack Vanek.
Let's make this quick.
hello hello hello and welcome to the lady and quickie i am becca here's jack here's kelty
hello and here is tommy lank it's a trash cast yeah it's a treasure pleasure pleasure
by the way tommy is wearing the best shirt i've ever seen it's the b52s like 80s chic
cosmic thing it says got it at buffalo exchange copyright 1989 oh my god that's the most 80s
shirt i've ever seen in my life and i love this is the shirt i wanted in junior high
and i never got it and then i've this b-52s was the first concert i ever went to as like
way too old to be going to your first like big concert anyway it's such a nerdy thing to go to
but then i saw this and i was selling clothes at buffalo exchange because i'm trash
and i saw this hanging up on the wall for 40 and i'm like i won't take the cash back i will just
take that shirt no wait what other songs besides love shack rock lobster dare you i don't know b52
i'm not a connoisseur no what else rock lobsters them right yeah that was their first big hit what
is it rock lobster yeah everybody had matching towels somebody went under a rock but it wasn't
a rock. It was a rock
lobster.
It's a great music video.
What's that song about?
What's that song about? Drugs?
Oh. I don't know.
It probably is about cocaine.
It made sense if it was drugs. Why is there a rock
under a lobster? Because the B-50s are very
weird. They're new wave meets
60s old school astronaut
cosmic. It's always like really random
things and I love
them. You would know other songs
from this Cosmic Thing album, which would be Rome,
roam if you want to yeah there we go okay they're one of those bands that you know way more songs
than you thought i hate those bands i know that's like toto toto has so many toto does have a lot of
hits yeah and everybody only thinks it's africa well tommy we brought you here today to celebrate
the launch the launch of the trash cast we are so excited you're part of the lady gang network
i feel so loved i feel like the beautiful lady that i am you are you are beautiful i love a
launch. It wasn't a soft launch. That's one
of my favorite words, by the way. We're having a soft
launch. I feel like it's douchey restaurants.
Soft launch just makes me think. When you know you're going to get
bad service. But you have to have a soft
launch. But doesn't it sound like
your boner didn't get...
Sounds like a half chub.
It's not a full twerk. It's not.
No. But I was very excited.
I was excited that Becca got her
not one, but second
Tommy Link look on your
Instagram. It was a good look.
That was a great choice, I have to say.
Her look was costumey to begin with.
Yeah, it was a little cowgirl-ish.
Oh, I thought it was very Xanadu.
And Xanadu, yes.
Very Olivia Newton-John.
It was.
With the high boot and the flowy pastel.
I want to wear that dress again so badly.
What did you wear it to?
It was Lady Gang TV.
Oh.
I want to wear it again.
Here's why I chose it, is because I had this mint green shower curtain that I've been trying to use.
And I don't know why I'm obsessed with that shower curtain.
I just wanted to use it so bad, and then there it was.
Is there anything worse, though, than a shower curtain?
They're so fucking gross.
Shower curtains are fucking disgusting.
A shower curtain in a hotel is the worst thing in the world.
It's like cube magnet is what I call that.
There's cum stains.
They're not washing it off.
I do like in a hotel when the shower curtain has that sort of like-
Second shower curtain?
It's a second shower curtain, plus it sort of swoops out.
Oh, it's a, yeah.
So it doesn't touch your body.
An oval.
but then it still does you still have to touch it and then you get the bacteria on you from other
people's guests but what's worse what's worse shower curtain that you can toss throw away in
the trash cast or uh or the um or one that you can wash or that stupid piece of glass that you
have to use the the squeegee oh rather have glass glass the squeegee whoever do you really squeegee
it you don't have to just get scrubbing bubbles and you get some you bought you get someone to
come over and do that for you okay okay oprah okay kelty was just talking about what was the
first world stupid her like curtain oh her her she can do her phone her curtains her phone gross i
hate you relatable i'm not relatable i've worked very hard to have my interactive curtain out
see okay i cannot idiot i can't sleep in full darkness it freaks me out
We were just talking about this.
Okay, so I'm in Switzerland visiting a friend, and they have like Beauty and the Beast.
They go out with the shutters like, good morning, Belle, and they close the shutters, right?
So they all have those shutters if they're in an old school place, or if they're in a
newish 70s building, they have these metal curtains like they live in a bodega, and they
put like the metal curtain down.
Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
It goes on the outside of the windows, and it's so quiet and dark, and I'm like, how
do you get to the bathroom?
Do you have a nightlight?
Yes.
Do you have any white noise?
Do you have a fan I could turn on?
That's my nightmare.
That's my hell.
It was horrible.
Dark, silent.
I can't do it.
I need a little bit of white noise and a fan going.
I need a humidifier, a nightlight.
I'm thinking about getting one of those weighted blankets.
I don't know.
I have weighted blankets.
Very, very comforting.
Do you have trouble sleeping?
Yeah, a little bit.
Me too.
But then once I'm asleep, I'm out.
That's why I can't have the blackout curtains.
You'll never wake up.
You'll sleep until three days later.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
All right. When we come back, Tommy has launched his podcast and in his podcast episode gave a great question that I'm going to give back to him.
That was a long hard launch in his hard launch.
The Lady Gang.
OK, so Tommy had Felicia Day.
Yes. On a recent podcast.
And they got in this conversation that I loved.
And you were talking about I don't really remember how you got on it.
But you were saying, there's a part of the podcast where you said, who did I think I was?
Like, what made me think I deserved?
You guys were talking about being actors and, like, coming to L.A.
And I was like, who did I think I was?
Like, who did I think I was to deserve this lifestyle?
Take me back to little Tommy and, like, explain to me who did, like, who?
Who did you think you were?
Who did I think I was?
Well, okay.
I just thought, I guess in my mind in high school, when I was planning, you know, my
career and what I'd be doing, I legit thought I was going to star as the lead.
You thought you were Leo.
I thought I was Leo, but I thought I was going to be the Phantom in Phantom of the Opera.
Hell yeah.
And I thought I was going to be Jesus in Jesus Christ Superstar.
I had a lot of Andrew Lloyd Webber hopes and ambitions.
yes and i don't because i guess i thought oh when i grow up i'll turn into this tall sort of manly
gorgeous man right not realizing like i'd already you peaked i peaked at 13 this is as good as it
was gonna get you're like it's gonna be this more wrinkles and more gray i have people are gonna
call me ma'am and that's cool i'm fine with that you guys people call my boyfriend ma'am sometimes
and i get shocked my boyfriend's very stocky and very manly and he's been accidentally referred to
as a woman like three times recently is it from behind his long hair yeah i finally got six one
very he's always wearing that shirling coat that like a woman with that haircut would wear it's
true like in north dakota yeah but i just got to a place where i what if i what if that was not
because back in the day i was so embarrassed and wildly offended by but i also did have sort of
longish hair and looked very ladylike in high school but then i now i think about it like what
if like we that's just because we villainize women and we think it's an insult and it's not
and like you can call me ma'am you can call me sir i don't care just call me i did i already do
that on the last podcast i think i said i'm not sure becca what makes you think you deserve it
i don't which is why i'm never working i actually here's the damn truth let's talk about it i'll
read the text. Here's the damn truth. I, for some reason, how do I put this?
Just going deep. I know, but like not too deep. At some point in my career, I don't know when it was
when I got into it. I felt very deserving and very confident because I did. I worked really hard.
um and then over time as like that career the business chips away at you and you're told so
much how you're bad at most things and then you don't get so many things there does come a point
where you're like it's too late to turn the car around i have no other skill or degree
i'm headed in this direction i don't think that i'm worthy because otherwise someone would have
told me by now if i was i don't know so i i definitely don't feel deserving i look at myself
and i'm like why on earth did you think that you like had any business pursuing this career
however i did have business because broadway is very different as long as you have the skills
and you're training yourself at it there's a place for you usually if you're talented enough
Yeah.
I mean, or they might look over you, but whatever.
But then with TV and film, because I got, like, put into it without really striving for it,
I think there's also a weird complex there, too, where, like, you get put on TV,
and then you're like, well, I wasn't even supposed to be at this party anyway.
They're not going to invite me to another party.
Yeah.
But you had to be insane to even think, like, little Becca Tobin peeing in purses,
like, I'm the shit.
I'm moving to New York.
I'm five years old.
Like I'm going to, you have to be absolutely out of your mind to like have that much self-belief
to even make it in a city like New York.
So it's crazy that now you're in LA and you've had a level of success that you can't seem
to like believe in yourself the same way that you did back then when you had no reason to
believe in yourself.
I think it's easier when you're younger.
I was going to say it is so much easier when you're younger.
It's like when you're a kid and you go skiing, when you're like 10 years old, you don't realize
that you can fall.
Like you don't understand that you can fail.
So when you're younger, even 18, early 20s, I mean, I obviously wasn't in the entertainment
industry, but I can assume that you think you can do anything and you don't realize
that there's going to be all these failures and it's going to suck you in.
And it's a form of insanity to continue doing what we're doing.
Like the people who really succeed in this business, I find are the least aware, like
self-aware, not in a bad way, but like they don't even know to doubt themselves because
they're so wrapped up in their own delusion.
And it is a really entertaining thing at parties.
But I also, like, don't want to be that person either.
It's like you're supposed to pick up on cues around you.
And when you go to 100 auditions and you get one, you're usually like, something here is not right.
And it's probably me.
Well, scientifically, I know your frontal lobes of your brain do not fully form until, like, 23, 25.
Yeah.
And so that's why when you're doing gymnastics as a kid or skiing, like you said, that part of your brain, that's why we do such stupid things as a teenager and take risks because that fear thing in your brain hasn't fully developed and logic hasn't fully set in in there.
So I think that's what it is.
If you get involved in it when you're that age, you're like, I have no fear.
I can do anything.
And then as your brain fully starts to form, that's when the self-doubt comes in.
What am I doing here?
I should have listened in math class.
Did I just mansplain?
That was technically mansplaining, wasn't it?
No, it wasn't.
No, it is interesting.
I just read a – I remember reading a thing about it.
Yeah, with your brain not fully developing.
That's why we're such a moron.
Well, then we're still morons.
That's probably why I peaked at 23.
Yeah.
Because then your brain – now you're actually kind of smart and you're like, oh.
Let me ask you this.
I suck.
As the final question of this quickie, is that what do you get out of –
Doubting yourself?
like that's it i know everyone like we love to like have a giggle at kelsey because i'm like
who should be the host of entertainment tonight me who should be the president me like you know
but like i guess my point is is that like it's either gonna happen or it's not but like if you
don't think it's gonna happen no one else it's not gonna well then like there's no chance you
nobody's fighting for you you of all people should be and like i mean yes people are gonna make fun
of you but you're not losing anything by being that person that's like i guess like what you
said like crazy at parties that's like i know it's like an unfortunate narcissism and stuff but like
that's kind of i don't know i don't think you know what the difference is but that's a personality
trait too a beautiful personality trait i think it's great also those people take themselves very
seriously it's i think it's hard when you have a sense of humor yeah and we'll self-deprecation
too yeah yeah because you see those people and you're like yeah they're gonna keep failing
upwards because they're so serious about it they you know i don't know i just yeah i mean there's
somebody right now that like how do i say this without being like too obvious i have seen so you
look at the glee cast okay this is just an example the most talented people from that cast
are not actually the ones working a lot.
The people working a lot are the ones who didn't really ever second-guess their ability.
Right.
And it's not that they're not also talented.
Sure.
There was a level of talent.
There was a level of talent.
Everybody was talented.
Like, there's no doubt about it.
But the most talented people were also, unfortunately, the most aware.
And so they didn't come out, bust out on the scene once that show ended,
being like, look at me, I'm amazing.
some did and they are crushing it right but others were like i don't know i mean i got this show
because i like can sing and dance is that even going to translate to anything else fair questions
yeah fair questions but then there were others that were like get me that golden glow
well the thing is is that like i know that i am not the best at what i do like i'm good at what
i do i'm like i was gonna say cheerio level glee i meant like that's not what i meant like i'm like
i'm fine i'm not the greatest i'm not the goat but like i believe that i'm the goat and i tell
everyone i walk around like i'm the goat and then people start to believe it but that's why you're
fooled you fooled you fooled you because i don't even know how to pronounce words i i have the
Grammar of a second grader.
This reminds me of some tea I need to spill.
Okay, spill the tea.
Okay.
I'm at UCLA.
I'm in college.
My friend is-
I went to UCLA.
Yes, Bruins.
I was in Dykstra Dorm.
My best friend at the time, Juan, was an RA up on the seventh floor above me.
The resident next door to him was James Franco.
And James Franco, Juan had sort of an open door policy, and I would go up there and do
homework, and we would just hang out.
I thought you were saying I went up there to do homo things
Well that too, that's the first time I watched
Ab Fab was in his room
What's Ab Fab?
How dare you
Wait, we have to watch this
You will love this
I keep pitching a podcast where we just watch episodes and talk about it
Nobody's explained what it is
Niche AF
It's an Australian sitcom
It's British
I thought they're Australian
No, it's in London
The reason I know about it is my Australian friends
because they also loved it yeah they're british it's a it's they're basically you guys there i
said it no they're crazy they're crazy delusional over the top like but elderly women okay i guess
rude so you guys weren't that old though they were in their 40s they're in their 40s so rude
so sad it's so old anyway sorry okay so i would be up there watching ab fab whatever
james franco would come in in just his boxer briefs nothing else just ripped just to papa
gorgeous and we'd be sitting on the floor doing homework and he would hook his fingers into his
boxer briefs showing off his cubic hair no his the the v or the you know gutters as they say
whatever gutters i'm sorry you can bleep that uh he would come in and he would say one i want to
be an actor like how do you become an actor like what what should i do i hate like you guys are
theater people and what was he in school for at the time i think like english degree or something
you're joking i don't know and we would be staring at him offended aroused spiteful and
with a boner with a with a uh with a soft launch
She just spit out her water
And we would say to him
I don't know
We're serious actors
You have to go to an audition
You have to take a class
We're in Godspell right now
We try it out
We go to auditions
You can't just be an actor
You can't just make up your mind
And just be an actor
Turns out, yes you can
Just be really hot
And you can just decide.
Because if you can say words like a human, you can be an actor.
If you have gutters, you can be an actor.
The moral of the story is be hot.
We're not hot enough.
Be hot and have dumb, blind, blind, what is that, blind confidence?
Blind faith.
The blind faith.
You have to be a narcissist.
How do I do it?
Is it a drug that I could take every day?
What if there was like that limitless drug?
Right?
So not help my cause.
What if there was, like, a drug, like, in Limitless where he could, like, unlock his brain and be amazing?
Like, what if I could, like, lock up my self-awareness?
It's called Prozac, and I'm on it.
Me too.
Yay!
Okay.
Tommy, we love you so much.
Thanks for being a part of the Lady Gay Network.
Thank you for being my boss.
Everyone, go listen to Tommy's trash cast.
I'm going to be a guest very soon.
I'm very excited about it.
And he has tons of other funny people.
And if you have a trash bag of a life, you are going to love the TrashCast.
It's so good.
Tommy Lang's TrashCast.
Go subscribe, rate, and also, Tommy, thank you for being here.
Let's all start James Franco-ing our lives.
James Franco your life.
All right.
We weren't here for a long time.
We're here for Trashy Time.
Trashy Time.
Trashy Time.
Bye.
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