LadyGang - Our Surrogacy Story: The High-Stakes Babysitter & “The Dad”

Episode Date: April 29, 2026

Becca Tobin is sitting down with the woman literally carrying her baby… and yes, it’s as emotional, complicated, and jaw-dropping as you think. Katie, Becca’s surrogate, gets real about why she signed up for this, the judgment no one talks about, what it actually feels like to grow someone else’s child (spoiler: it’s not what you think), and all of the ups & downs of the journey (including the failed transfer and miscarriage). They talk “high-stakes babysitting,” delivery day, family, and “the Dad” of it all! Thanks for supporting our sponsors!Better Help: Thank you to presenting sponsor Better Help. Sign up and get 10% off at https://BetterHelp.com/BABYGANG Skylight Frames: Go to https://MySkylight.com/BABYGANG for $30 off your 15 inch Calendar.HERS: Ready to reach your goals? Visit https://forhers.com/babygang to get personalized, affordable care that gets you.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Hello, hello, hello. Welcome to the Baby Gang series sponsored by BetterHelp. It's the world's largest online therapy service, 100% online, because we love convenience, we love taking care of our mental health, and we are busy, busy, busy people. I am your host, Becca Tobin, and this feels very weird because I have been part of a podcast trio for a decade. And right now I feel like I am swimming without floaties. This is terrifying. But I'm going to get over it because I have been wanting to have these conversations. A lot of us in the lady gang are mothers, soon to be mothers, parents, aunts, uncles, whatever, or just curious about what it would be like to have a kid. We'll try not to scare you off. But I am doing this because four

years ago, my son was born. And I just was able to have access to a lot of incredible experts, conversations that I found to be really interesting among friends. And I wanted a place to share all of this. And so here I am. I also have exciting news. Zach and I are welcoming a baby girl at the end of the summer via surrogacy. And we are thrilled We are scared. We've had a singleton. Is that what you call him? Singleton for four years now. It's been incredible, wonderful, magical, and we are doing it again. Round two. We have not told our son yet. So if you see him on the streets, please don't ruin this for us. We have no idea how we're going to tell him. Open to suggestions. So please DM me. Anyway, he was born via surrogacy.

She will be born via surrogacy. And like I said, over the last several years, I've just had a lot of conversations in this space. And we're going to talk about a lot of this will be fertility. Some of it will be trying to conceive while you're pregnant. conversations with parents about parenting just meeting some of my friends and I don't know this is what we're doing and my first guest is my surrogate Katie she is carrying our daughter and the first time around when Ford was coming we were really private and very secretive about him coming because a few things. The world is a shitty place sometimes and people really like to insert their opinions on how you create your family. And that can really

spoil the experience. We were nervous because we had had so many failed attempts. But this time around. I have such a thick skin with people, as you'll see, judging my decisions, my choices. So what the fuck, you know, why not? Our guest today is originally from Austin, Texas, holds a Bachelor in Science in Human Development and Family Sciences from the University of Texas, and has built a diverse career supporting families through foster care, adoption, autism services, and now IVF. She currently works for Elevate and has the opportunity to support egg donors, surrogates, and intended parents daily. Now based in Atlanta, she enjoys spending time with her husband and two

young children. Katie, I'm not giving your last name because people are weirdos. My surrogate that's currently halfway through a pregnancy with my child. Wow. Hello. Thank you for doing this. Yeah, so fun. This is crazy that we're here. I know. We've been through quite the journey already together, but we're on the upswing of this whole experience. So you're here to kind of discuss yourself and this particular journey, but also we have the rare ability to discuss the overarching experience of surrogacy and just making families in non-traditional way because you work in the field now. So first of all, a personal question. How did you realize you wanted to be a surrogate and when? It wasn't I don't think it was like a moment that I knew I wanted to.

I'd been around it long enough starting with egg donation and then really it was when Tara did it who's my good friend who is CEO of Elevate when she went through it and going through it with her and just it was just amazing watching that I think then I felt like I could like that she can do it like this is a thing I can do I have my own healthy kids I have healthy pregnancies and why not so Yeah. One day I just texted Tara. She'd been bugging me, of course, to do it for long enough. And I said, I think I want to. Like, let's do it. Having proximity to Elevate as an agency was a huge part of that. I think I wouldn't have felt like I even knew where to begin. Yeah. So Elevate, for anybody listening, is the agency that I used for Ford, my son,

and now the one that Katie works with. So I always talk about their magic sauce is that at Elevate, they have a lot of the people working on these cases and helping these families are people who have been through the process, whether it's egg donation and surrogacy or have, you know, like Taylor and Kyle

created their families in this way. So you're not talking to somebody who doesn't like get it. Did you have any hesitation? Was there like a one hang up that you, you know, that kept you from doing it sooner. I think I just, I wanted to know I was done having my own children. That felt important. And really it was pretty much right then. Like when my youngest was, how old was she? A year and a half. It was like, you know, we are done. And yeah, I just didn't want to wait around anymore. I thought it would take a while.

I knew it would take a while. And did you love being pregnant? Were you the alien that loved being pregnant? No. I feel like that question comes up a lot of like, do you want to be a surrogate because you just miss being pregnant? I'm like, yeah. No. Maybe that is the case for some. Yeah. Maybe it is. I mean, I think I want to know the percentage of women who truly love being pregnant. I think it's quite low. I, yeah, it has to be. I had healthy pregnancies. Like I didn't have scares. You know, I was lucky in that way, but it wasn't like, I just, let me do that again. And for people who are considering becoming surrogates, everyone asks like, what are the hard and fast rules of being able to do so? Yeah. Great question. Having your own child, having

generally uncomplicated pregnancies, everybody tends to have something, not suffering severe postpartum depression is a big one. Being able to do pregnancies without medication use is big. Support system in place. Yeah, those are the top I'm trying to think. Generally just medically uncomplicated. That's the big, that's the big thing. Yeah. Well, and the psych evaluations are what I like to point out to people when they ask the question of how do you know when this, that the surrogate doesn't want to keep the baby? My favorite question. Such a common question. I have answered it a hundred times. Have you? And how do you answer it? No, no, I don't want to keep the baby. Like if I wanted a baby, it would be so much easier just

to have my own baby than go through all of this. Do you think that there are women who become super attached? Like, I guess, does this pregnancy differ from when you carried your biological children just mentally and emotionally. It really does. It really feels different from the start. I think you do have to go into surrogacy with a good intention and mental perspective. So that's step one. I mean, you go into it knowing the baby's not yours. You don't want it to be yours. You're excited for the parents. There's so much different about it. But this feels like so different from mine and that it's like this high stakes babysitting like I feel very protective of her you know like I want more so than your own yeah I'm like no I gotta do like

I'm gonna get an A in this project for sure you know with mine I'm like fine I'll make up for it later well you're gonna do a whole lot better than I ever even could try so you you uh don't need to try that hard to improve upon what was happening. That's so funny. I guess that's the other thing is you have to have your own children when you are a surrogate. And sometimes they are young kids like your own. How are your kids handling it? How did you tell the kids? That's also something that people get concerned about, just the confusion of even for myself, we're starting to tell Ford how he came here. And it's so confusing for kids. It's hard to break it down. So I'm curious what you've been saying to them.

Yeah. In my particular circumstance, my oldest remembers me being pregnant with Townes, the youngest. And so at first, you know, he was heart set on another sibling. So it wasn't the surrogacy that we had to explain. It was like the fact that we're not having another child. We're not bringing home another baby. So he had to work through that. But he's come around and the best part for him was meeting you guys.

we had the opportunity for him to meet and he could like picture it, you know, that this baby has a mom and a dad and a brother and like, just like he, he got to have a sister and so does Ford. So those parallels helped him. My youngest. This is like her normal. This is wild. I told you the story. Like she put a balloon under her shirt and said, I have a friend's baby too. Like this is like just she's a little surrogate she has no desire to have a sibling like she loves this this is the best so sweet well i don't know if this is across the board with every agency but and every you know lawyer and contract but within this arrangement there's actually a part that says that your children get to meet and spend time with the baby because it's i can't imagine them

watching you grow this little human inside of you and then never having contact or seeing the baby go to the family. So I am excited for that. Like with our last surrogate, that was one of my favorite memories was just seeing the kids meet Ford. And it's like, they've been living with Ford longer than we have. Right. So it was very, it's very cool. And I like that that is part of the part of what we do. Were there any, when you were matching with a family, were there any things that were like, they have to fall under this category or they can't be X, Y, or Z? Any stipulations? I'll be honest here. I think one of my biggest fears going into it was just my family and what they would think, which has been a tricky aspect for me and I think is unfortunately a

tricky aspect for a lot of surrogates um and so i remember going into my consult being like i would carry for a gay couple for two dads but my family is going to have a fit over me doing surrogacy in general and so maybe let's have a mom involved um which i'm like even now i'm like that's just so it's so sad that surrogates do feel that way that if i talk to anyone that's hetero only and they're matching that gets because of the pressures from their family. So that's hard. And that was definitely my case. Of course, I'm so glad. I mean, it led me to you and this has been the perfect match, but that was definitely the one thing where I was like, it's going to be trickier if I don't. That's a very interesting perspective that I didn't even consider.

Because in my mind, I'm like, oh, this person is up for this experience. I didn't even consider family obviously to become a surrogate your husband or your partner has to be really on board but yeah it's like family extended family friends yeah what is the criticism or the justification of the judgment of you doing this my gosh it's been so widespread like so many comments um that just adopt why couldn't why can't they just adopt you know that whole argument surrogacy is only available to people who, you know, can afford it. So it's just unfair that you're doing this. I've heard the like, you surround yourself with yes people and you feel comfortable doing this because your friends have done it, because your job, you know, I wasn't working for Elevate when

I decided to do this, but I was friends with people, you know, at Elevate. Like you're only doing this because people are convincing you to do this. Like from my conservative Christian family, this is just not right like those comments just not right just not right it's just not and you're like oh can you explain like they can't nope you've put off that upgrade long enough during the hyundai upgrade your ride sales event finance a new kona or elantra from just zero percent and Get a $500 bonus on select models. And with the Elantra Hybrid's best-in-class fuel efficiency, you can also save at the pump.

Upgrade today. Event ends September 30th. Based on Natural Resources Canada fuel consumption ratings, conditions apply. Visit HyundaiCanada.com or your local dealer for details. Well, I will say that even when we started to go through the IVF process, obviously there's criticism of why not adopt. and there's a lot of like why are you playing God if you're meant to be able to have a baby then

you know then then it would happen it's like okay well then if you get diagnosed with cancer then I'm gonna say to you you can't use modern medicine and you're gonna have to just God wanted you to have this yeah um it's really funny how we qualify like what can be used in medicine and science and like what can't be right um so that's my favorite you know I I understand everybody's going to have their feelings about it. But I also am. I always ask the question before making any judgment, like who's being harmed in this situation? And I think the number one concern is obviously for the surrogate because you are physically putting yourself through this. And there are risks to this entire process. And you're the one, you know, at the helm of it. And the Handmaid's Tale comparison gets gets brought up a lot with one. Yeah, even even with me where I'm like, you understand what you're comparing me to, right? Like, the woman who's forcing one another. woman. It's so wild to me. It's wild. Um, and I, I will speak for you and you, you know, it felt like, and the reason that this felt so right was because it felt like we both wanted this

as much as the other. I mean, obviously this is something like, you know, it's my child and I'm desperate for it to work out, but it felt like you were as invested in this happening. Um, and we had a failed transfer together did yeah and I want to know you know from your perspective what you were going through and and then I'm gonna like kind of talk about like what how strange that was to be experiencing it having the miscarriage but not physically having the miscarriage and also I felt so much anxiety for you because I didn't want you to feel badly that it didn't work right yeah because I know you were hard on yourself I was that was tricky I think you know I went into the process I realize now fairly naive to to that aspect you know I was

like well informed as far as the transfer success rates will it work or not you know ready for that and then once that did work and it was fast positive pregnancy tests and everything was good. It's like, I just, you know, I felt like I did X and everybody did their part and now it's working. And I just didn't think about the reality of like of a miscarriage. I don't know why it did not cross my mind. And then even it felt like, I don't know for you, but it felt like kind of a mess. The appointments felt like kind of jumbly and we had like the wrong kind of ultrasound that gave us false hope. And we had like a second wrong kind of ultrasound. I was like, it's probably fine. So it was drug out a bit. And then, I mean, that was a hard, sad day when they confirmed it. We finally went to your doctor, like someone who would say shoot us straight and then got on the phone together. And it was just like everything stopped. You know, like we had all these plans. We were checking all these boxes for a long time leading up to that point. And then there was just no plan and no schedule. And we didn't know when it how it would resolve what the right choice was to get it to resolve.

And then, yeah, I did blame myself a bit. Like, it's like I didn't, you know, surely like this is a normal embryo. It was a positive transfer. Everything worked. So like what happened? You know, my body didn't do what it was supposed to do. Yeah, I think that my experience having been through so many, you know, lost pregnancies and speed bumps and all the complications, I felt like this is par for the course. And I think that our heartbreak was kind of anticipated in a weird way because we're just used to getting that. And I know that that's like energetically probably not the best way to go into it, but it's protective, I think. And so we were lucky enough to have other embryos waiting, other healthy embryos waiting. And while it was sad, it was very sad.

It was something that I just wanted to like let you know that this is the norm almost. And it was so nothing that I ever even thought had anything to do with you. These embryos are, quote, tested, but only for so few things that I'm finding out. And they can go in, they can do the transfer, they can stick. But if that embryo is not super healthy, which my history is not amazing with these embryos. So this happens a lot. And even if you have, like, the perfect environment, and now you know that. Yeah.

But I wanted you to, like, not have any, like, we were let down or disappointed in any way. Sure. Because I also had this crazy faith that it was going to work out ultimately, probably because Ford's here. And it had to take a lot of little baby miracles for him to be here. And I'm like, well, we did it before. We'll do it again. but after this one we're done I do remember that conversation we finally you know we had where it was like you basically were like no it's just going to work there's no end to the process it's

just we don't it's just going to work because I think I got in my head of like okay I'm doing a second one I had a hard time feeling positive or excited or anything about the second one I was just like I'm not believing this until I see a heartbeat on the screen I'm not even gonna think about it. And I just, then my head would go like, okay, then a third transfer. Then after a third would like, they just find a new search. Like, what is the, you know, and you were just like, no, it's just, it's just going to work. And then that's the end of it. Like, yeah. Okay. As long as you're willing, as long as you're willing, we are going to continue this. And yeah, I just, the thing that's so funny and like, I love that you keep reminding me of how resilient this little

baby is inside of you she's the best she's awesome she's awesome and it's so cute to me that like this is part of who she is like she is really doing her perfect she's she's perfect like I'll write her a letter one day and thank her she she just I it is some it is like a special connection of like, wow, you've just been a lot of places and you are so tough. Traveled the world already. Awesome. She's been in San Diego. She's been in Atlanta. Yeah. We had to start believing in her. I had to start believing in her and not in me. Like, you know, she wants to be here. I really believe that. I believed in both of you. You guys are a good match and you're 18 weeks, right? Yeah. Today or yesterday. Yesterday. Yeah. It's so funny. I have what to expect on my

the app, like on my phone, because I'm like, how big is the baby now? Because it's not inside of me. So true. And in a couple of weeks, we have the anatomy scan. And, you know, I think that that's honestly the next. And I know that things like, you know, not even putting it out there. But to me, when we do that and we know that this she's perfect, she's a rock star, getting that confirmation is going to actually allow me to put together the crib, to do all the things in anticipation, to tell Ford. Yeah. You know, I I feel like really excited to have that experience. And I don't know if you feel any differently about like that, like that milestone. Yeah.

Yeah. I can't wait for that. I mean, I feel very positive going into it. We've had, like, so many good news little steps recently. It's felt like great momentum. But that's going to be a very relieving appointment. Like, to know that you're getting to, like, you're bringing a baby home. Like, your home is going to start to feel like you're bringing a baby home.

You can feel confident in it. You can tell people. Like, I remember that with my own kids that were not IVF, you know, where, like, it wasn't as concerning. Yeah. It's crazy. So what are you going to do the moment you're not pregnant? Oh, my gosh. So many things.

No. Cocktails? Cocktails. I'll share one with you in the hospital. Yeah. We're going to. Yes. That is why I'm like, wait, everybody is so concerned with do I want to, like, kidnap the child?

And I'm like, no. Like, no. Um, yeah, I haven't gotten to the part of pregnancy that's like, well, I can't wait till she's out. You know, I feel like I feel like she's a tiny little thing. Yeah. I feel lucky. Mine were not. Mine were not. No, but I think, yeah, afterwards just, I don't know. I don't know. I haven't gotten there. Maybe something to look forward to with the kids. I think that's another thing worth mentioning of how important it is to like understand that you still have to go through the postpartum period. You know, as a surrogate who is of sound mind and does not want to keep the child, your hormones still are weird, you know? And I have learned and

been told and talked to surrogates it's like it's just important to spend time with your kids and your family and have something to look forward to to help like get back to normal because it's like a job is ending you know like you're you did this thing you made a promise it's over and you have to like recalibrate well and I imagine like even though you're not grieving not having the baby to take home you're grieving the experience like I think it's not all rainbows and sunshine but I would imagine, like I've never had the ability to grow a life to term. That's a pretty exceptional job. And so, yeah, there's probably a little bit of grief after doing this like monumental task and like giving the gift of a lifetime to a family, like the meaning and the purpose of that

is probably something a lot of surrogates keep going and doing it again because it's something that they enjoy about it yeah would you do this again that is like that I don't know I think my fear like this is like a unicorn match and it's been so fun and I don't know what if it I don't know if you had a friend maybe okay we need some rec letters first of all how are you feeling physically I feel good gosh this has been my easiest pregnancy I keep telling you like I don't know if it's just the universe is being nice to us I don't know but I was not this well with mine so back to the question of like did you just love being pregnant I was expecting there to be something more but I feel really good yeah those shots the progesterone shots I'll never be the

same I don't think I tried to warn you didn't I you did I said this is those it's the worst part so for anyone who hasn't done IVF or isn't familiar you know I did the egg retrieval and I did the all the kind of the stuff in the front end to do to take the eggs out to fertilize them with Zach and then they hit the ice and then before I've never actually phrased it like that I just, like, really can't wait for my family to hear this. I could take that out if we're worried about it. No, we need to leave it in. We need it in.

Okay. So she hit the ice. God. This one. The one that's growing. The one inside of you. She's an ice skater. So then in preparation, and I had gone through this, so I knew.

And then also Sierra obviously went through this part of it, so I knew her feedback from it as well. and she was like this is by hands down like through the whole entire process hands down these progesterone shots that you take you prep like five days before the transfer where they you know the transfer is when they take the embryo and and what's the term like how do they do it implant there we go um so for five days you're shooting yourself with the biggest longest needle you've ever seen, ever seen in your butt. And that happens for five days leading up and then every single day until you hit the second trimester. It is saying it even sounds like torture. Do you still have a lump on your butt? I still do. I still do. I think forever.

probably no it's not forever it's not i promise i remember being in my hormonal which that's the other part kind of like makes you crazy yeah it makes the hormonal weirdness um i remember going to megan on my team who is a former fertility nurse and i was like like are you sure it will never like will i recover from this i need to know she said yes but it'll take a very long time please chill please oh that's funny and how is nick your husband like how has he been he's the best he i mean that's like the key part like you said you know i had my fears about my family in the beginning but he's from day one and like you can totally do this like you should do it this is going to be one of the coolest things like he's very supportive um but it is funny like i'm like

he's great but then he's like he'll like try to rub my belly and I'm like don't do that like ever again oh tell him I appreciate the affection I was like that feels like not the right thing I don't know it just is so different it's so different but he's like if it makes you feel it's cute it's so cute i'm like i know she is cute but like please give her space give her some space or just me you in general some space this is between me and becca like zach barely has anything to do with this and you definitely don't yeah good luck guys it is it's actually like this so I'm glad you said that because I did with Sierra as well because Sierra was in Austin in Texas and I was going to a lot of appointments with her and I've been to I mean I really have

only been to the one with you in person um so far and I remember sitting there being like I'm the dad I am the dad it's so true actually it gave me now don't take this too far gentlemen it gave me like a teensy weensy morsel of empathy for them because you're so invested in what's happening but you have absolutely zero to do with the progress of it yeah so you're sitting there almost like a spectator of something but then you your whole heart is invested in this thing and I'm like I can't even help her like you know even just like the ultrasound it's not the most comfortable thing in the world and you're like oh this is what guys feel like they do want to they do want to take some of this from us yeah like carry a little bit of this but there's nothing

you're fucking useless. And get ready because I am going to go so hard, dad, on delivery because that's another thing where I was like scrubbing in for Sierra's C-section. Like, come on, dad. And it's so wild to, again, I am glad that I've been there for now three births. So my sister my best friend, and then obviously Ford. My sister and my best friend had two vaginal deliveries. My sister did one unmedicated that I watched. My best friend did. She could not feel a thing and was happy to be there. And then the C-section. And so at least this dad has experienced. This dad is ready. This dad is ready. I know I'm not surprised by anything. there's literally nothing that can shock me um yeah i but it is you're sitting there like

i i remember when sierra was you know trying pushing and trying to have for vaginally and he that little bitch wouldn't drop he would not drop and he was just sitting like pretty much like a little up so high and i'm like god and i'm like so disappointed in my child already and i'm like just drop just drop um but it does have to be the father experience it does right you're like you're torturing your mother you're already torturing your mother but yes it's such a it's such a dad thing and like but even going further it's like even having a newborn like i am a dad i am not breastfeeding i am not recovering from postpartum that is the really cool part about it too, as Zach and I have equal experiences in a way. We're both the dads. We're two dads.

Somebody brought that up to me the other day and they're like, really? This is kind of feels like a really smart arrangement. Like you carry the baby, grow the baby, birth the baby, then you hand her off to her mom and then you go recover and you sleep and everything's great. And mom takes over and mom is not, you know, recovering physically. Like, isn't that so true? Like more people should know. It's a great relay race. It's really good. It really is.

It works out like everyone's energy is utilized appropriately. I imagine when you came home with your two children, like you're operating not at 100 already. No, you're going through and everybody's experience is different. And that's not to discount like you are taking this baby that you're like now have to like snap to. You know, I can't imagine doing that because I think there's like preparation that you get to do when you're pregnant with them. Yeah. And and like the hormonal thing maybe helps that. I don't I don't know. Yeah. But yeah. No, I was like a ghost going home. Like you feel like a zombie trying to take care of. Oh, yeah. Yourself and the baby and like. And then your kids. yes a lot and then your husband how did that feel with ford like did what does it feel like does it

just you just like i i don't you know i it was surreal but i thought well it must be surreal every time for a first-time parent um but i did feel a lot of gratitude i could not stop thinking about how grateful I was to have been rested physically at my best-ish, not dealing with crashing hormones, not dealing with a lot of that. Because I watched my sister postpartum, my best friend postpartum, and one of them really struggled with postpartum depression as well. And I just felt insanely grateful. The gratitude was beyond. I've also still blacked out the first couple weeks like even though I didn't carry I still don't remember yeah it's still exhausting it's not like I mean you're the one waking up so yeah it's yeah yeah I like am so happy to hand

her over can we just emphasize that all of you listening for anyone wondering if I'm curious hoping to take her home yeah Sierra was the same she was like I am so happy to evict this baby because also at the end of normal pregnancies, quote normal, I don't know a woman who's ever been like, I want to keep them in here forever and ever and ever. Like the last couple of weeks, they're like, get this baby out of me. And so I think it's actually a beautiful gift that we're given in our situation where you're already going to be ready to kick this baby out of its cozy home. And so there won't be any yearning for the return of a pregnancy. No, not at all. That's my anticipation. Yes, I think that's true. I'm hopeful that I'm not like, we'll see.

I just hope she doesn't want to stay in forever. Oh, please. No, we're kicking her out. We're getting her out of there. She's got to go. Whenever you say when, you say, and we'll find a way. You know what? We'll find a way. At a certain point, it's going to be all on you to pull the ripcord and then she's coming out we're gonna be like sorry you overstayed your welcome you gotta go but we're hoping she's gonna remain perfect and really just stay the course and really a plus student which means the moment you're ready like you can just think it and then your water will break yeah so it'll be like i'll just be like telecommunicating with her i think that's what i'm about you should try i'm going to i think she's into that thing actually she's definitely

spiritual. She is. Well, I'm very grateful. That seems like the most flippant terminology at this point and the way to say it. And you'll hear it a million more times till you're uncomfortable with it. And I'm going to try to stop when you become uncomfortable. But I am very grateful you were put in our lives and that you have created the most cozy, beautiful, healthy, happy home for this little girl and you said you're gonna write her a letter and that just really made me emotional because sorry she this is I think the best one of the best things I'll ever get to do in my life and I like don't take that for granted I mean that it's I feel very lucky too and I cannot wait I keep envisioning like the two of you meeting and I just can't wait it's gonna be

the best day it's gonna be great she's gonna be she's gonna be a lucky little girl thank you and I promise I won't cry like this all the time you can it's okay um all right well thank you for doing this I appreciate it so so so much and um I'll see you soon see you soon