LadyGang - Sharon Stone pt 2

Episode Date: December 5, 2023

Sharon Stone returns for part two of her epic interview about life, love, and being the ultimate powerful human. Who would she want to play her in a biopic? Why did she pay Leonardo Dicaprio's acting salary? Plus, Sharon weighs in on Mr. Keltie Knight and whether she will ever return to acting.  Check out our holiday deals!!! BYLT: Get a Free Women’s Essential Cropped Crew and Free Shipping with every order of $150 or more when you use code LADYGANG at byltbasics.com   Stamps.com: Go to Stamps.com and sign up with code LADYGANG for a special offer that includes a 4-week trial, plus free postage, and a digital scale! Jenni Kayne: Get 15% off your forever pieces with code [ladygang15] at jennikayne.com  Cozy Earth: Go to CozyEarth.com and enter code LADYGANG to save up to 40%! L’Oreal Professionnel Metal Detox: Unlock healthier hair with L’Oreal Professionnel’s Metal Detox – now available at Sephora! Progressive: Quote your car insurance at Progressive.com to join the over 28 million drivers who trust Progressive!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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wearfigs.com and use code figs ca for 15 off your first order that's wearfigs.com code figs ca well what is this welcome to the lady gang that's amazing say that again the lady gang things are about to change around here each week we catch up with hollywood's hottest girl posse kelty knight becca tobin and jack vanik hello hello hello welcome to the lady gang i am becca tobin here with jack vanik and kelty knight good day can i start yeah yeah are we just gonna jump right into it yeah yeah oh okay well it's time for no actually sorry go back what i wanted to say is welcome to the lady gang well becca said that part already but what i want to say to everyone is this is part two of our sharon stone interview so sharon came and we really only had

her for 35 minutes but then we ended up sitting and talking to her for an hour and 20 minutes and it was all so good that we decided to split it into two parts so if you haven't listened to part one from last week go back and listen to part one and then come but you could listen to them in any order but i just want to say welcome back to sharon stone epicness um if you're gonna love it now i'm ready wow now it's time for good week yes it is bad week oh no okay bad week uh-huh i'm officially at reading glasses age and i even packed my reading glasses to read my sharon stone introduction because it was printed in 12 point and i can't read that anymore you need to start printing in big font i know but then but then my printer goes through kelty do you also

know that you're doing voice oh shit my printer goes through so much ink and ink is so expensive is this what you're for for real right now ink is my printer i have the hp tango i don't know what's going on or whatever it goes through ink like i have to replace it weekly it's crazy and weekly what are you printing out i print the lady gang podcast that much i know and i print a lot of shipping labels because i'm always shipping stuff to my friends it's anyway so i'm just telling you i am i'm not a good friend in real life but i'm always sending gifts to my friends i've never received a single gift for me neither but i see you in real life more than i see anyone in my life i just sent my friend a cold bunch of athletics for the rockets this season you know

Anyway, so I wear reading glasses now, and so much so that I need to wear them pretty much all the time. I'm even thinking of getting the ones where when you see out, it's normal, and then when you look down, a bifocal. As you know, before Sharon Stone came on our podcast, my most famous encounter with anyone was when I was a magician's assistant in Las Vegas. I was actually thinking about that recently. And the magician I was friends with was friends with David Copperfield. And one night we went to the Palms Bar, and I was like, oh, my God, I've made it. I'm around a celebrity. It was David Copperfield, which is so he had a lot of swagger, wasn't he?

Is he still with Claudia Schiffer? No, I don't think so. Not anymore. Anyway, what's crazy? I think that's a celebrity. Yeah, he is. But I love him. He definitely is a celebrity.

So what's crazy about it is this whole time I was like, David Copperfield, what a guy. And like, you know, he's used the same promo photo for 45 years. Like, there's no way that man looks like that. Like that picture is from 86. Like, what's going on anyway? But then I was reading a book, and the book was talking about a book called David Copperfield. David Copperfield is a book, a very famous book, and he stole that name. David Copperfield is not David – like he's not just David Copperfield.

It's a fake name. His name is not David. David Copperfield, the magician, took the name, I think, from the book David Copperfield. But is his name not David something? Let me look it up. I have no idea what his real name is, but I had no idea there was a book called David Copperfield. And so now I'm like, is everything a lie? That's the weirdest thing.

I'm just telling you. I was shook. Okay. David Copperfield's actual name is David Seth Kotkin. Yeah, exactly. And he took it. Did he take it from the book? I am assuming so.

Anyway, David Copperfield is not real. Nothing is real. Nothing is sacred. What do you expect? Everything's fake. I didn't realize it based off a book. okay uh is the person in the book a magician adopted the stage name david copperfield taken from the famous charles dickens novel because he liked its sound that's it just because he

liked the sound of whatever anyway david copperfield you're a book becca you're a book you're a book um okay what sharon if you're listening to this fast forward to your part don't listen to us be idiots do you ever there are times that we have guests that i so don't want to disappoint. And I get worried when these really amazing people come on. And if for some reason they listened to the podcast that they did, that they have to listen to this shit for 20 minutes. I don't think that anybody that we are really, really, really impressed by is going to listen to the podcast. And that's the thing that gets me through. I think Sharon loved us and I think she will listen to the podcast. I think she will listen to it while she's painting a painting.

I don't think so. It's not soothing. We are not soothing. She's very soothing. I've never felt better about myself. She is so soothing. She made me feel very comfortable with the next 40 years of my life. Wow. Like if she's 61, I'm 41. I'm like, I'm still going to be wearing cool jeans. Yeah. It's a choice. I definitely. That's such swagger. Yeah. I think we need to step up our game. I don't have any swaggers. I don't have swagger now, but I will get swagger. That's why I always say I'm like later in life, I'll have boy better style. And I'm like, I don't think so. I think this is it. This could be it.

Okay. So my good week is that I have really made incredible strides in not giving a f*** about Hollywood. Oh, okay. Amazing strides. Even more so than regular? Before, I mean, I cared about what people thought that were in positions of power, for sure. I like did not ever want to have a bad exchange, whatever. No, you were.

Like you were like a badass on the Lady Gang podcast and then a little more meek in like needing to be liked by Hollywood. Yeah, totally. In your real life. The people that made decisions in Hollywood. Yeah. So I was recently at an event and I had the pleasure of being around a lot of very important people in the business. I think I like talked about it a little bit in a couple episodes ago. and I was sort of anxious but I I was like but I feel like I don't care anymore but I have this

thing where I can do that like before an audition I'm like I don't feel like I care but then I'll go into the room and suddenly I'm like I do care yeah so I don't trust my feeling of not caring anymore so I was like I don't think I care but I'm gonna see how awkward I am at this experience of having to interact but you could also just be awkward because that's an uncomfortable position to be in right i feel super awkward yes which i was incredibly awkward i was so awkward i looked at one of the most powerful women in television and haven't seen her in a long time and she looks amazing she looks great she's she should she has access to like but she's a beautiful woman and i was like oh my god it's so good to see you and i just because i have nothing

to talk. We have nothing in common, nothing to talk about. I was like, you look amazing. You have not aged since the last time I saw you, which was quite a while ago. And I asked her if she was drinking baby's blood. Wait, what? I was like, how do you look so young? Like, are you drinking baby's blood? Like I, something like really, no, something like that. I did. And then I had another experience with somebody else. It was so awkward, but that's my bad week. My good week is that I didn't care. I didn't care at all. Somebody actually didn't say goodbye to me that I knew very well and like had like a whatever. Irish exit. No, he chose to say goodbye to a lot of other people and not me. Like I wasn't important enough. And in his

world, I'm not. So I was like, that would have been really devastating. And I would have been on my high horse about like him like i whatever worked so hard what i didn't give a and it was like i don't know what happened i hope it never leaves me but i just don't care anymore yeah it feels good right it feels so you know what you're in what you're sharing stone era i hope so i really hope she's already rubbed off on you i mean if only like an ounce of that but out. I love that for you, Becca. I think it is. I feel the same. Right? I don't care. Welcome to the dark side. No, I should care more. But Jack, your livelihood didn't ever depend on these people liking you. No, I know. Right. Yeah. So it's like, think about something. There are people

in your life that you care tremendously or have about how you come across or what they think of you no for sure yeah i'm just saying it in hollywood yeah okay yeah yeah it's more fun i i just don't know i just want to go in and make my money and do my job and i just don't know like i i i used to think like the other day i was reading some of the reviews of the podcast and like i used to like remember we used to read them it was like mean tweets and stuff and like i used to think it was so funny because like it really didn't phase me yeah i was like these people think I'm an idiot. And it really didn't phase me. And then I went through a period where like, it did actually phase me. Like I was really sensitive about it. And now I'm like,

I actually hated the way that felt. And so like, I refuse to even let you in. Like I'm just, that's why I don't even, I mean, I do, I get phased by shit, but that's why I don't look at it. Cause it's like, it would literally crush. We're the same. It would like crush my soul, but it's like, but I'm used to creating the boundary. I'm not anymore. That's okay. Well, then don't read the reviews. I'm excited. No, it's like, it's better not to care. Like It's really freeing. It's freeing. It's scary.

It's like, who am I? Does anything matter? But also, I'm down for it. Nothing matters. You're good. Number one, I'm doing a new thing that any time I leave and go out of town, I'm taking the first flight home. No matter how much I've partied, no matter how hungover I am, I'm getting on the six

o'clock flight, and it has changed my life. Why? Because I have really bad anxiety. Like, when something is over, I don't want to linger. I'm like, I want to get home. I want to, like, take a shower, do a hair mask, like, lay around on the couch. Yeah. So, like, getting out first flight is almost like I left the night before.

Uh-huh. I'm home by 830. Like, I'm doing – You have a whole day to recover. Yeah, I'm, like, I'm decompressing. But as somebody who gets hangovers, I don't understand how you do that because even – No, it's just – I mean, I'm going to be hungover the whole day no matter what. So I might as well just, like, suffer through the first thing I wake up and I'm not even thinking about it.

So that's what we did recently on a trip. And my bad week is I don't eat spicy food really. Like I like like a three out of ten just to like add a little something. And Jared and I went to eat the night before a flight. And it was at a place where like everything's spicy but they don't tell you. It's just like everything you get is like a spice level of like an eight. And I never thought that like spice could affect my body. Oh, my God.

But now I understand. I never actually have experienced the spicery. I haven't had spicery either. I don't believe in spice. I've heard of it. It was the first time my butthole has been on fire. And Jared always talks about it because every time we go to Chipotle, he gets the red sauce. Oh, I don't know what that is.

Okay, wait. Chipotle is the place where I get it, but I don't think it has anything to do with the spice. I think it's the food. Well, it's definitely the food. But do you get the red sauce? Yeah, I do. It's the red sauce. It's just the red sauce?

No, it is just the red sauce. It's really spicy. Because Jared, every time he goes, he's like, I'm going to do the red sauce. And I'm like, Jared, you know what happens when you eat the red sauce. You're like, there's fire in your asshole coming out for the next 24 hours. And he does it every time. And I never understood that until I ate level eight spicy food. Like a lot of it.

A lot of it. And I was still recovering from it. Still recovering. White rice for you. Because like as somebody with constipation, I'm like, there's no way. I was like, nothing's going to get this moving. Now you know how to get things moving. Red sauce from Chipotle.

Red sauce. Wow. Jack's shit pills and it's just it's foolproof okay I never knew learning something new every day well you're welcome Sharon if you're listening her asshole was on fire and so are you

now back to the lady gang before I want to talk about I have folded every page in this book I want to bring up a bunch of things that you said in the book Um, but before, since we're on the topic of significant others, I, I would love to be an owl or something and be a spy on the wall and watch Chris Knight do his life without me around because I'm just fascinated by him.

And I know he's different when I'm around. Cause he just like goes into mute mode, but I want to know, because you're like, I know you guys have a friendship. He's so kind. I know what, like, so what is he like? You guys met, I think, on an airplane with coming back from Vegas or something like that. He's very kind. Yeah.

He's very thoughtful. He's really open to just whatever. You know what I mean? I remember saying to him, I have two people, two very diverse talent that both need representation. And I'd like to mention them to you. Yeah. And I think that you might like both of them, even though they're so oddly different, but they both need representation right now. And I think for some reason they'd both be interesting to you.

Okay. And I told him who they were, and one was a very famous sort of rock person, and one was a person from – who was started as a kid star and was an older man now who was kind of a legend but old now. And I explained to him why I thought that he would understand both people, and he was like, oh, that's so interesting, Sharon. I really sort of get that. And I think he ended up working with both of them. Wow. And, you know, it was just his ability to have this emotional intelligence along with the business sense of how he could both economically make money and and psychologically work with both of these extraordinarily diverse people was fabulous. He has no ego.

no and that is what is so surprising with him being a music manager your idea of what that is is so different from who he is but he's that's why he's so successful but he was also able to have this business conversation with me so smart about music and not say to me like you know what the hell would she know right you know what i mean why would she think never would she think that she should know anything, you know, which is so a common reaction when you try to talk to men about business. Oh, yeah. Oh, it's so true.

It's so true. Where do you think you would be now had you been a man? I really am curious because you obviously are in a very wonderful place. I feel like you'd be running. I'd probably run a studio. Yeah. You'd be running a studio. I'd probably be running a studio.

Yeah. It's not too late. Yeah. Lady Gang Studios, it's available. it's super great okay the last thing i want to ask you and we can definitely take this out is um i just want to tell you a little story so i think at some point chris came home and he was like look what sharon gave me and it was just this giant bag of weed and it was like is that when she quit she's like i have so much weed laying around and it was this really funny gag because we were

not we're you know we're mushroom people and so uh we had and every time i opened the safe yeah sharon stone's weed would come when we'd be like what's up sharon it was so poignant anyway thanks for the weed. I gave it to my friends and, um, I just wanted to, I thought that was so funny. Okay. When we come back, we're going to talk about the book. Okay. So Sharon wrote this book, the beauty of living twice. It came out last year, a year and a half ago. Right. And since sold in 22 countries, New York times, bestseller, bestseller across the world. I love the cover by the way. And people might, if you don't know Sharon's story, the beauty of living twice is because you essentially died and came back to life. Can you talk briefly about what happened

to you, what you felt before, and how it changed your life? I had a massive stroke and a nine-day brain hemorrhage. And I had a really hard time getting anyone to believe me that I was having a brain hemorrhage, even at the hospital. Because this is so crazy. I had the same thing when I was in menopause. I kept going to the doctor saying something is terribly wrong with me. And I was getting so skinny, I was like teeth on a stick. And I was sweating and I was so sick. And all these men were like, they were testing me for leukemia and MS and all these diseases. And I was just sicker and sicker and sicker and finally this amazing iranian lab technician woman turned around and said when they walked out of the room you're in menopause and i said what and she said

you're in menopause and then the men walked back in and she turned back around and they're like well you know we're gonna test you today for you know leukemia and ms and all this stuff and i kept thinking you know i'm dying like and i'd be lost getting lost on the way home and i was like i'm losing my mind and I don't know what's going on. And I left and I called my gynecologist and I said, I think we should test me for menopause. And she's like, sure, come on over. I'll give you a blood test. I mean, I was 61 or something, 62. Is that late, early? That's late. Very late. But because I'd had a stroke and I'd had this really intense brain bleed, uh my vertebral artery had ruptured at a certain point i couldn't have periods because i would pass

out my body couldn't handle it sure so i'd had what's called a uterine ablation which is basically they microwave the inside of your uterus so you still have your cycle but you don't bleed which i'd highly recommend to anyone who just doesn't want to have kids anymore because it's the greatest thing that ever happened i mean truly i'm just sitting here and being like cool that's different than like a hysterectomy they take the whole unit out they take nothing out but you just don't bleed anymore it's the greatest thing that ever happened you can do that just like if you want to it's an in and out patient same day it's the greatest thing that ever happened and so i didn't recognize that i was having menopause because i had already stopped bleeding

you know 20 years ago that makes sense that makes sense and so um i went and had this test and of course i was in menopause but you know mansplaining was happening to me for like a year where i was being tested for because you know sharon stone from basic instinct probably never goes into menopause oh yeah right she definitely doesn't and so it was just and the same thing was happening to me when I was in the hospital. I was in there on a dilaudid drip for days and days and days bleeding into my brain. And they had given me an angiogram and missed it. And I was still just hemorrhaging into my brain, hemorrhaging into my brain. And finally, they said that I was going to have to go home because clearly I was faking it. No. And I said to my best friend, I'm dying

And you have to get them to do something. And so as she says, Mimi, she went out and she said to the front desk that she she told me she pulled a full Shirley MacLaine that they agreed to give me one more angiogram and then I had to go home. and I was like okay right but she said nobody sleeps 22 hours a day she's in a coma right right and so they did it and they discovered that my vertebral artery was completely ruptured and hanging by a thread and that I had my whole subarachnoid pool which is your face your neck your spine was full of blood and they couldn't wake me up because they had to do surgery or I would die on the spot so I had like a seven hour surgery and I woke up and I had 23 coils instead of an artery and then I wanted to pull the Dilaudid out and they said you can't because you'll go into seizure now you have to go into intent I was in this you know on this neurological

wheel where other people were dying and it was right after 9-11 so everything was playing on these TVs, why they had TVs playing that trauma while we were all in trauma. Still, I don't understand. And people were dying across from me and screaming. And it was so traumatic to begin with while we were all having trauma. I still don't quite get it. Then they moved me into intensive care and I had to step down off the dilaudid, which I think is why it made me, why I was smoking so much pot. And I was trying not to have brain seizures because I didn't want to have brain seizures in public. So I always kept pot in my purse because I didn't want people to see me having seizures. And eventually I just decided, you know, I don't care and I can't

smoke pot all the time. And finally, Selma Blair worked with Biden and finally got a Disabilities Act, which, you know, we didn't have any coverage in the business and everybody was so cruel in the business anyway. And it just became stupid. So, and as, as we all know, nobody wanted my opinion about anything anyway. So it was, you know, I was basically blackballed, so forget it. So I decided to just quit smoking pot, which was very difficult because I had been undulotted so long, which is synthetic heroin. And so it was very difficult to totally stop smoking marijuana. And it was hard. The whole situation has not exactly been a cakewalk. Gosh. You say after Basic Instinct, you vowed to be less weak on the outside

and less available to be eaten alive. That's actually one of my favorite lines in the entire book. What did that mean to you? Less weak on the outside, because you don't say less weak, less weak on the outside and less available to be eaten alive. I just love that. Well, you know, everybody really likes you when you do everything everyone asks and tells you to do. Amen. And nobody likes you when you have boundaries. And I had to learn to grow some boundaries. And the more I started to become self-possessed and the more that I understood what boundaries really meant through trauma therapy and PTSD therapy, the less people started to like me. And the more I understood how fantastic and healthy that was.

um okay this is a this is something that i absolutely love and it's very sharon obviously it's from her book she said um style is what style is what you do with what's wrong with you barbara streisand's nose danny devito's size share let's face it they're all loaded with style those tears begin when you're a kid and you don't get what you think of as the good thing and you suffer quietly. And then you courageously figure out how to make the thing you've got so fabulous that it becomes the thing what everyone else has to have. Wow. School of Sharon. I know. I've got like a masterclass on like how to be alive. It's so true. So what did you think

the thing was that what's, what makes you stylish? Well, I remember how, when I was going to do irreconcilable differences and I, you know, Chuck Shire and Nancy Meyer were my neighbors and they used to always notice how I wore my pants short and then I'd wear high heels and they would go, that's just so cool. And Nancy was like, look how your pants are always short and you wear high heels, you're like a French girl. And I would think, I can't get pants that are long enough for me. You're like, I was a model, bitch. But in reality, they didn't make pants long enough for me.

There wasn't a tall size back in the day. No, there weren't tall pants in the 80s, right? Like pants that would fit me and jackets. So of course I rolled up the sleeves of my jackets because the sleeves were never long enough for me and the pants were never long enough for me. That's amazing. So, of course, I wore my pants short.

And the only way to make that cool was to be – Emphasize. Rock it. Yeah. You had to lock that in, right? With the heel. I love it. I love it.

I mean, it really is true. It's like, you know. Did you ever feel ugly? Like, as a woman, did you ever have – or as a young girl, teenager? Oh, my God. I was this tall when I was 15. And then this is not as deep as my voice really is. I had to take speech therapy when I came here because my voice is so deep that my vocal cords would rub together and I would lose my voice.

Wow. So I had to raise my voice an octave so that I didn't keep losing my voice at work. So I had to go take this thing where they put a Kleenex in front of the microphone. And then I would have to do these lessons to raise my voice because my dad's voice is so one of those voices like where the guy sings the deep, deep, deep, deep voice. So all of our voices are really, really deep. So my voice was so deep and I was so tall at 15 that everybody thought I was a boy. so and I had a shag because Clute happened

and I thought she was the coolest thing that ever happened I thought Jane Fonda was just it so I cut my hair like that and then I had this voice and of course none of the boys voices had changed yet so I was like hey hello

you know that's pretty weird you know because there I am flat chested nine feet tall with a shag and this voice wow of course I thought I was some kind of freak wow um this is sorry I'd like I don't want I want a segue to freak wait but wait I have a question in between so so from that to acting so what is the I guess like what how did you end up being one of the most beautiful women in Hollywood like

who discovered you how did you get there like i'm so curious what really happened was ellen mirajnik who did the costumes for basic instinct she chose the color of my hair and she chose how my makeup would be done and she like the makeup artist put way too much makeup on me And then I'd go into my trailer and I'd take the makeup off with Ellen. I've been there. And he said – and he would say, I'm just going to keep putting it on you. And I'd say, and I'll just keep taking it off. Amazing.

You know, because he wouldn't let me have an opinion. Of course not. And so Ellen and I, she picked this great color of hair for me. And she made all these color choices of my clothes. And then I had, of course, this amazing cinematographer. And all of a sudden, I saw myself on film, and I just looked amazing, right? And then they let me screen the movie on my birthday for my friends before it came out. And I said, oh, my God, look how I look.

And the person sitting next to me said, that's how you look, stupid. And I said, it isn't, but I'm smart enough to know how to do that from now on. Right? Because I was like, I didn't know, like, the exact right hair color and how to do my makeup and how to get dressed correctly. And then I had this friend who was a stylist, and she came over and she taught me how to hold my handbag. And she taught me what you do. And I was like, okay. and then she'd have me over to her house for dinner and she would serve me and show me all

the things. Because, you know, I grew up, my parents were both child servants. My dad was given away when he was four and grew up in somebody's barn stall. And my mother was given away at nine and was somebody's maid, housekeeper and laundress. So, you know, my dad made 14 grand a year. And we thought we were wealthy because we grew up in really lower middle class farm country, Pennsylvania. So, you know, we didn't know that we didn't have money because everybody was the same, right? So I went to New York with $50, Manhattan, 50 bucks, right? And so I'd go to my modeling appointments and go through every pay phone all the way back to Elizabeth and Houston, where I lived in a fifth floor walk up

with another person in a studio apartment in bunk beds looking in the phone booth for change to see if I could take the subway and get home or if I had to walk 80 blocks you know what I mean insane and then is that

I think so much has been made of the high low dressing like you're fancy and then of course you show up in the gap turtleneck of all things which is like your fashion one of your and that again was Ellen Miroshnick because was it a plan was it like no no I'm gonna be cool I'm gonna wear the gap turtleneck or were you literally like too busy to care the FedEx truck ran over my dress no and it had a giant tire track down the front of it this is for what

award show again the Oscars right have you heard of that Oscar and I was like oh my god and so So I had this amazing bodyguard, Kristen, who passed away from neuroendocrine cancer. And I said to Kristen, I can't get Ellen on the phone. You have to go find her. Find her somewhere. Just find her. And she found Ellen. And I'm like, you got to get her here.

I don't know what to do. What was the dress like that got run over? It was pink. Really? And I was like, I don't know. And it had this huge black tire track down the whole front of it. I could have seen you making that work, though. And I was like, and Ellen was like, go get all your favorite things out of the closet.

I'm like, I don't have favorite black tie things, Ellen. She goes, just get the stuff you like, just anything. And so I just started throwing things all over my bedroom floor. And so we just put this thing together. And then I thought, well, if I'm going to do this, I should do it for a reason. And so I called Mickey, God, what's his last name, who was the head of The Gap, and I said, I'm thinking of wearing a Gap T-shirt to the Oscars, but if I do, it'll cause a big sensation, and I want to know that you'll give a donation to a charity if I do that because I want you to give it to homeless children and their mothers if I wear a Gap T-shirt. Oh, my gosh. Because it's going to cause a big sensation to the gap.

I didn't tell him I had nothing else to wear. And he said, yeah, of course I will. And I said, but I need a fax saying that you're going to do it. And he's like, you need a fax? I'm like, yes, Mickey, I need a fax. And I gave him the fax number, which was in another room. And I had my mother standing by the fax and my sister standing in the hall. And I'm on the phone.

And so my mother's standing there and she's like, we got the fax. And my sister's like, we got the fax. And I'm like, okay, Mickey, we've got the facts. And, I mean, it was like a half an hour before leaving. Wow. And so I felt like, okay, it doesn't matter what people say because I did a good thing. Yeah. And so we got money for homeless women and children.

And so I wore the Gap T-shirt. But you looked fierce. I know. That's the thing. It wasn't like you wore the Gap T-shirt. So I was putting my hair up in a French twist, right? And I was pulling the pins, and I was in the car, and I put my arm up, and my mother saw that this underarm of the shirt was ripped out. And my mother's like, Jesus Christ.

And she came running out with this needle and thread, sewing the armhole closed through the window of the car. And then my mother's super psychic, and the car starts driving out the driveway, and I hear my mother go, Susan Sarandon. And I realized I wasn't going to win. oh right as i left and i went oh okay okay i'm not gonna win which was good because i was very grounded yeah oh my gosh right holy shit when is the movie of your life coming out yeah you're listening to the lady gang who would be your ideal like i mean And now with AI, you could probably play yourself. But like, is there a, is there a, I mean, she's like, I will make the decisions.

I will. No, she has an eye for casting. I think we could leave it up to her. I agree. But if, if you could, like, if you could cast your own biopic, who would you want to, like, is there a young someone in Hollywood that you would want to play youth, younger you? And then you'll take over at 32? Well, you know, I adore Margot Robbie, so probably her.

probably the greatest she would do it oh i think she's the greatest lovely yeah so talented after i saw her play tanya harding i was like you're you're it you're it you're it um okay i want to go back to the book sorry there's something uh page 128 you say i could see uh you're talking about hollywood i could see how hard everyone else was working to be liked and i freaking love that Because you walk into a room and everyone's trying to be the coolest, richest, most fabulous, like, seen person. Talking in a high voice. Talking. Hello.

Oh, my God. Sharon. It's so good to, like, when did you realize that? And then how have you, and then my next question is, literally, when someone is an asshole in Hollywood, how do you handle it? Because, like, you have, you're so grounded and lovely, but you do go. Like, you run in these circles. This reminds me of a funny thing. When we were in Cannes, and we had total recall there, and it was such a big deal for me, you know, because it was so new.

And we were at the Eden Rock, which is this gorgeous, gorgeous DeKalb Hotel, so beautiful. If you need a reminder of this hotel, in our book – It's where you got kicked out of George Clooney's – It's where I got kicked out of George Clooney's party. Okay. So it is fabulous. So we're having this party, and the Gypsy Kings were playing. Okay.

Wow. And, like, every – I mean, the Rolling Stones were there. Eric Clapton was there. Like, every star you can imagine was there. And the Gypsy Kings were playing, and the music was amazing. and Steven Seagal who I'd been in this movie with who really is not a cool person yeah he's the kind of guy that like I was acting with him and I I was trying to talk to him about this scene and he told me I was standing in his chi and I was like well you know I'm unfamiliar with that how big

is your chi I didn't know what the hell was happening anyway so I was talking to Sven Nyquist And Sven was Arnold Schwarzenegger's body double. And Sven, also in the movie that Ridley Scott directed where Joaquin Phoenix played the emperor, Sven was the guy who wrestled the lion in the pit of the Coliseum. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. Right? So I was talking to Sven, who's like the coolest and big, you know. So I was talking to Sven, and Steven Seagal came walking up. And he's like, so what are you guys doing?

And Sven goes, we were just talking about what an asshole you are. But yeah, exactly. Sven for president. I love Sven. And I think that was one of the absolute best ways I'd ever seen anybody handle it. I thought that was just fantastic because Sven is like a wall. Right. So do you just take a mental note and you're like – or you just breeze past?

I just – you know, when people are assholes, I generally don't do anything. Or I say, I'm sorry, I didn't hear what you said. Could you repeat that? I didn't really get it. And then they repeat it and I say, I just really still don't get it. You know, or – Don't start doing that with me. I actually thought it was genius because then they have to explain it again.

I guess that's over my head. Yeah. Oh, I love that. I'm sorry. I don't really understand that, you know, because I don't. Okay. So my last thing, we have to let you go. I could keep you here all day.

I want you, you know, we've had over 47 million different women and men across the world have listened to our podcast, which is, you know, we're so excited and happy about our community. You've been in their chi. We've been in their chi. Archie is small, but people have dipped in it. If you could tell the Lady Gang listener one thing about life from where you're at and what you've been through and how to live a good life, like how to be happy, you know, when you – what would you say? Like what is the important stuff? What do we do? Because we – our generation is in this like we're obsessed with the algorithm and the likes and the Instagram and – well, maybe it's just me, but like what – like a good life is what?

I really genuinely believe that happiness is a discipline and that pleasure is something that is momentary and that if you go three days and you're not in your happiness, You have to have something that you do that reminds you to stay in your happiness. I have a bracelet that I put on that's very uncomfortable, and I put that on when I have gotten out of my happiness. And then I keep it on until I figure out what's happening that's taking me out of my happiness, and I repair it. If it means I have to exit people out of my life, I exit them out of my life. and I'm hardcore about it, I tell people, that's it. And I don't change my mind. I don't. I don't. If I really have to exit someone, that's it. Unless they come to the table with, I'd like to sit down, I'd like to discuss it, I'd like to take responsibility for my actions,

and they do. If they come back with G, well, and O, and this and that, then I just block them. If I've done something myself, I make sure I take responsibility for it and handle it and get myself straightened out. If I'm missing sleep, eating right, exercise, any of the basic rudimentary things, I straighten up. Whatever it is, I make sure I get it straightened up, but I only let a certain period of time go by. Now, I make exceptions sometimes if I'm doing something out of respect for another. Like I hired someone who was my best friend's kid, and I was trying harder because I wanted to honor someone else. So I gave it longer period of time. But if I – otherwise, I don't make exceptions to that rule.

I only do things if I keep this very specific, that happiness is a discipline and it's a discipline that I keep. Because I believe that your own internal happiness, that you're the hub of a wheel of activity. And if you don't keep that together, it's life works in concentric circles. I know that the masculine identity is linear, but as a woman, I believe that it's concentric. And that we have to stay, the center has to stay pure. That is something that I just found out about being a mom, actually. I realized that I had to be so good with myself in myself. And energetically, everyone in my house is good when I'm good.

Exactly. And I just, and everybody, all my friends who are like, I don't have the time to meditate. I don't have the time to do the work for myself because I have to be there for my family. I always thought it was kind of like, I don't know, I couldn't subscribe to it completely. And now that I see it with my own eyes, I'm like, you take the 40 minutes to exercise. You take the 20 minutes to meditate because like when you're good, you really are the center of that universe and everyone else is good. Yeah.

It was crazy. Happy wife, happy life. Oh, yeah. Well, Sharon Stone, guys, this was amazing. The Beauty of Living Twice is available. We'll link to it. You should definitely read this book. I do hope you make a movie of it.

I think it would be fantastic. Well, I can say that Hillary and Chelsea Clinton are making a documentary about my life. Oh, no big deal. Buried the lead there. Buried the lead. Hold on. Let me open that up to the top. Of course they are.

And her documentary was so good. Wasn't it great? Amazing. Oh, my God. It was incredible. Oh, I'm so excited about that. Oh, my gosh. Thank you.

Amazing. Okay, well, we will celebrate it in a big way. Thank you. If you need dancers, if you need a can-can, like a cheerleader can-can girl at the premiere. I need you guys to be my backup singers. We'll be there. Gap shirts, we're ready to go. You're fantastic.

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