LadyGang - Skin is in! Sexy Mature Skincare
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well what is this welcome to the lady gang that's amazing say that again the lady gang things are
about to change around here each week we catch up with hollywood's hottest girl posse kelty knight
becca tobin and jack vanik hello hello hello welcome to the lady gang i am becca tobin here
with jack vanik and kelty knight guess what i'm having guys so do you know what this is yeah
like a fidget spinner thing and ford has one yes um so these are like the popper fidget things that
they are giving kids now. And I have my own because the last time we recorded on zoom,
I think someone was here with me and we recorded together and they're like, Jesus Christ, no wonder
you're like all over the place. Cause you have your phone and your tablet. And like,
there's a lot of things happening. That was me. And you weren't paying attention to the podcast
at all. Yeah. So now I only, cause I, I don't like to sit still as you guys know, unless I'm
like reading or sleeping or laying in the sun so now i fidget with my fidget popper the whole time
and look right into your eyes while we're podcasting i'm not looking at a second you need
that putty stuff too it's really good i actually didn't i also the other place that this is very
useful is the airport you know when you're waiting in line and no one can line up properly at the
airport i've talked about this many times i just sit there and i just pop my fidget popper and then
i'm very chill you know you could also get they have those like fidget rings that like would be
very inconspicuous yeah that you just like oh yeah go like that on your finger neon blue green
thing is like not my my love maybe like me in a more of a professional setting you can get the
ring okay this is my profession i don't know this is my profession that's true you can just hide it
underneath the exactly screen yeah well it's time for good week yes it is bad week oh no is that
your good week kelty that you know no no prop i mean no this is just this is what it is it's like
you know but i'll go i'll do my good week okay um i have a good week
the most famous member of the lady gang has struck again another baby was named after me
wow aaron dm'd me baby kelty number four has been born she was born july 4th this is
so insane and baby kelty's gorgeous obviously but there's so many baby kelty's and i just want to
say congratulations and i can't wait to see what baby kelty does with her life i'm sure it'll be
nothing short of miraculous uh i hope you're doing well i hope baby kelty is thriving as i know she
is she's probably already walking and talking and we love you so much what happens when you do
something horrible in life and then the name kelty is just ruined for all these people okay well let
also then that's the end of lady gang and your job so maybe we shouldn't be manifesting these
types of things jack just being realistic well congratulations welcome to the world kelty
kelty number five i guess i think it's four well if you're the og kelty oh you're right
kelty number five thank you is it number five yeah well i'm kelty number five it's baby number
four but it's the fourth baby to be named after you yeah and the lady gang that is that is pretty
crazy no one of them is from the bank in my hometown so three oh oh okay well still big
number guys big number here's my bad congrats as as the most famous member of lady gang this
a theme this week i of course have a google alert on myself as everyone does and what happens when
you have a google alert on yourself is that when google puts up an article and your name's in it
it sends you a little email that's like google alert and it's what thrills me so i got a google
alert and i was like oh my god great i'm hot and the google alert said um inside your favorite
celebrities' closets. And I was like, yes, someone cares about me. So I clicked on the article.
Guess what it was? Becca in my closet. There was 10 famous celebrities. Becca Tobin was like number
seven. And it was like Becca in her closet. She's in my closet in an article that we took for
people style they ripped it out and they took just your picture in my closet and the reason i
got the google alert is it said becca hosts a podcast with kelty knight and jack vanek which
is why i was mentioned it had nothing to do with me and it was like the best celebrity closets and
they were explaining and talking about why this closet was so beautiful the light the window the
color it's like a private special room it was my closet wow is this like from like a long time ago
they just repurpose bullshit on the internet but it's from a long time ago years ago when i was in
my old house and we all shot looks in the closet oh my god they stole the picture and they're like
wow becca's closet is so beautiful here's all the reasons she's the most famous that's that is
amazing oh and the other thing is is that i accidentally had um google sound alert during
that whole thing and it recorded my whole story to my oh my god this is for book number three
oops i see all the f-bombs in there that jared's gonna have to edit out oh yeah sorry anyway who's
next i'll go next because i think it's important when you're being built up to humble yourself yet
again um so to be stay relatable stay uh you know for people to still um like you like me
um so i hadn't really had a lot of auditions lately because summer's nor like a pretty quiet
time of the year and television anyways but also because we're going on tour it kind of knocked me
out for any jobs that would be filming in September so they're ramping up again and I got
my first audition back in a while for a project that is based on a really a book that I read over
the pandemic that was like one of my favorites and so I got this audition I'm like oh this is
exciting. I like when I actually know about a project that's coming and it's like, when you
hear about it, you're like, Oh, cool. I wonder if I'll ever be able to audition for that thing.
So, you know, being a new mom, you have like no time to prepare anything. I did my best. I like,
whatever. Kelty, uh, read these lines for me, um, the night before, just so I could like hear
them out loud. And then the next day we zoomed together so she could like help me put these on
tape because everything is still very much self tape. It's not like, it's certainly not one of
those auditions that i sent off and i was like i have a good feeling about it but i was like
whatever you know it's like it's out aren't those like kind of the ones that end up
doing better than the ones that anyway yeah that's what i think so it's friday night and i
i sent it in on friday and on friday night i go to dinner with our friends who are in town
and then kelty texts me and she's screenshotted a dm from a young woman
who says i work in casting and i just got a great tape from becca and was like omg kelty reading for
her so fun that's all just wanted to send a little sparkle on a friday so i'm like oh my god i am so
mortified because that's also like really you know it's like you never want like your friends to meet
like sometimes you never want groups of people that we don't want worlds collide i never want
casting to collide with the lady gang do you know what i mean yeah but there there they are and um
i was like oh i go ask her if i got the job and kelty goes i'm working on it and the quote was
they thought it was so fun and spot on this is the problem she said that yes she's a casting
associate oh is that bad no i mean it's bad because when i go see a friend's show on broadway
that sucks the first thing i say to them is so fun yeah it's like thumbs up you looked like you
were having such a good time doing that audition keep dreaming yeah yeah i i i know i'm a psycho
but i did not take it that way when someone no one actually has ever told me i'm spot on in my life
but if they did i would be like i'm it i'm the tits you would take that you'd be like yeah well
you do have a beautiful ability to do that but you know on is not like she was great
spot on spot on is saying great with like zero emotion so i think it like you know what i mean
like it's not like that was the best thing i've ever seen but it's like spot on is a pretty solid
i agree it's like it's like if someone goes up to bat in in you know and they didn't hit a homer
no they make contact with the ball you know what you're spot on but it's not knock it out of the
park is when you get up there and you knock it out of the park yeah that's true okay let me say this
in defense i don't think she i thought it was already you know very nice that she reached out
and she definitely dm me because she knew you didn't check your dms but i also think she she
couldn't say they loved her because then she would get in trouble. I looked at her Instagram.
This was a young lady. And if, if then your agent or your manager was like hurt on Instagram,
she got the gig. I think she's downplaying how much they loved you. I, it is so fun to live on
my side of the planet. I feel like you guys should come on over. I feel like they downplaying how
great you were. Her spot on was a clue to like, she was exactly what we're looking for. And today
it's literally no business days have passed you're gonna get a call back i know it i can feel my
bones well that's really nice of you and yes i understand first of all i want this young lady
or anybody who works in casting to know i would never i've had this type of information in the
past i would never even breathe a word to this yeah to like my my agent or my manager except
later publicly but she won't but here's the thing is like nobody's gonna know that she can't get in
trouble for me talking about this. Cause nobody knows the show, the casting, whatever. There's
like a million options that could be in this. Yes. So, but I would never, if I received a DM
that was like, Hey, you're gonna probably get a call back. Like Bob, I've gotten those tips off
before and I've never said a word cause I don't want anybody's job to be, you know, but here's
the thing. I am spinning this into a good week, not because I think I'm going to get a call back,
But because I feel like at this point, the lady gang is so big that I could get some really solid feedback from people in the industry to know what I need to do, not what I need to do, when it's time to say goodbye.
The opposite.
I have a question, Becca.
And I know this is like maybe too much information.
but okay when i go into an audition and when i've tested in the past what happens for my brain is i
go in i do my on-camera test or whatever and then i leave and then for the week after i picture
myself in the job no we've talked about this i know but are you doing that because if you're
not doing that that then you're not going to get the job you have to no no i did that all in my
20s that's all i did in my 20s is i imagined the job i looked where it was shooting i was like oh
this is going to be the job. I'm going to be flying between here and wherever it's going to
be blah, blah, blah. And I kept the sides. Cause I'm like, I need to keep these sides. Cause it's
going to be for my memory book of when I got this job. No, I, I did that, but there's a totally
different approach now that I have to take, which is like, I did it. It's over. If something comes
back, it's like, wow, what a, what a cherry on top of my day. However, what do you think, Jack?
i think that like you two are two completely different people and what works for you like
kelty you don't take things serious seriously personally and the way that becca or i would
so i feel like what becca does now is probably protecting herself so she doesn't get let down
and like disappointed and like hurts her own feelings right where it's like if you imagine
this whole thing and it's like you're spending so much time and energy envisioning a life or
whatever because of this one thing happening and then it doesn't it's like well now i'm a failure
where it's like where you could just like do this thing and like best case scenario it happens worst
case i didn't put that much energy into like trying to manifest something that failed because
you can't manifest it after it happened yeah and also statistically speaking your job required you
to have like maybe what two to three auditions true a year because once you're in the job you're
doing it for a long time. And there's only so many jobs for what you do. I'm doing like, I mean,
I've had years where I've had like one to two auditions a week for the whole year. So that's
a lot of, um, disappointment, disappointment. It's just like protecting yourself. I'm just
calling out if, if the lady gang wants to anonymously send in some feedback, you're
going to need to offer a little bit of information about what you do, because I don't know now if
people who hate me are just going to write in and pretend they saw my casting tape and say,
you're a horrible beast and you should retire oh my god i'm gonna need to know there's like
some substantial whatever but here's an open invitation you know help a sister out why
why are we now suddenly why as actors are we in the dark if i had a normal job
i would go do something i would make a presentation and someone would be allowed
to tell me how i did yeah yeah so there you have it she wants her quarterly review guys
yeah quarterly quarterly review i do love that the lady ganger did dm that is really cute i love
that they recognize my voice maybe i should start i thought you did a great job reading those lines
by the way don't take over my job kelty that was supposed to be jack's also great at it yep i'll
get my shot okay my good week is a shout out to jenna williams a lady ganger speaking of dms and
babies being born jenna just uh gave birth to her son and she posted in the lady gang group
she dm'd kelty she dm'd me like she wanted it to be known that she was wearing a jack vanek shirt
while she was giving birth and the shirt was my shirt that said the shade of black i'm wearing
really brings out the color of my soul so i love it she said it's her favorite shirt now it's going
to be like her lucky shirt and i just wanted to say congrats jenna i hope you named your son jack
so i can get some names in the running because i don't know how many jacks we have out there
but um congrats congrats how did she walk out of the hospital gown she's a doula i think she
looks like she's having like a home birth yeah the picture she sent is like her nakey she said
she has more pictures but they weren't i mean she's definitely at home she's like on her bed
oh i see okay yeah oh my god i love that she's in a jack fanning shirt i know she's and i love
that it's like such a like dark like i just love that i know everyone's like you know flowers and
well she's definitely she's tatted yeah she's like she's an emo kid she's emo yeah um which i
love it it's like congrats jenna congrats jenna um my bad week is and i this is kind of on topic
because we have our dermatologists coming on later that I'm finally getting over this stupid
reaction that I had to antibiotics, that I had an allergic reaction to doxycycline and my whole
body freaked out was a whole thing. I had cystic acne on my face for like a good week. That's
finally starting to go down. And I just wanted to say thank you to everybody on Instagram who had
diagnosed my allergy, just like another, not going to the doctor, you know, my IBSC that I also have
that's been self-diagnosed from other people in my DM. So, um, I do want to say thanks for
everybody's help because, um, you know, didn't feel like going to the doctor. Good for you.
And I lived through it and I'm on the other side. So no more doxycycline for me. I think it might
be i've taken it before and the only thing that's changed since i took it this time is i've gotten
covet so i don't know if it's like oh that's interesting yeah i think it's just over time
like my mom has every couple years become um allergic to a new antibiotic really well your
allergies like cycle out every seven years so it might be that yeah good yay allergic to medicine
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certified, which I didn't even know you could be, dermatologist and surgeon. She's also a
badass entrepreneur with two businesses, one here in Austin called Austin Skin. It's a boutique
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So I said you're Harvard trained, but you were also valedictorian at Vanderbilt in med school.
So we have the Elle Woods, if you'll allow me to refer to you as the Elle Woods of dermatology,
Dr. Christina Collins. Welcome. Thank you. So I, I really wanted you to come on because since
meeting you, I've learned so much. So like, what would you say overall tips to having your best
skin ever? Yeah, absolutely. So you're right. It's fun. I have this fun combination of a
procedural based practice where I'm doing skin cancer with these rural Texans, you know, one
day. And then I've got these, you know, high end, you know, patients who are trying to look their
best on another day. So, um, it's really both, um, things that kind of keeps me interested all
the time. I always think of care and skincare as, um, really kind of like holistic integration for
the whole person. Right. So, um, I grew up in a family with a lot of ancient healing traditions.
my dad's a chiropractor and acupuncturist. So I've always sort of had this kind of whole body
view of medical care. So with the skin, um, good skincare, I think starts from good health,
right? So, um, someone who's hydrated, someone who eats healthy, who doesn't have tons of sugar
in their diet. Um, those sorts of things are where you're going to start your good skincare
program. It actually doesn't even start like on your skin, but we can't buy it. That's such a
i know i was also going to ask a question uh from i know kelty is wondering is diet coke
good for your skin i know it's not i would say no probably not as bad as regular coke though so
there you go i don't know i mean yeah we all we are all guilty of you know having certain
likes in our diet or whatever that are not perfect for our skin but you know it's all
about balance, right? You can't be perfect like all the time. So I guess Kelsey wants a Diet Coke.
She should go ahead and treat herself. Don't say that out loud. I'll take that as the gospel.
But in terms of topical skincare, I usually just say, you know, the best regimen for someone is
what they'll actually do, right? If you overcomplicate it and you give like 5 million
steps both times a day, I'm a mom of two kids. I'm working. I know I personally don't have that
kind of time to like sit in front of the mirror for one hour and just massage 10 things. Yeah,
no, it's not possible. I have the time and I can't. No, no. So I think that simple is really
best. You want to cleanse in the morning and night. I usually recommend to follow that with
a serum in the morning. The serum should be kind of like antioxidant or protective. So you're
wanting to like protect your skin from things you're going to see out there in the day. So
maybe some heat protection, some UV protection, some antioxidants will help like clear your skin
from free radical. And then if you're more dry skin, you might want to do a moisturizer. And
then if you're more oily, you might want to jump right to the sunblock at that point and forego
the moisturizer. The sunblock should be a physical blocker, not a chemical blocker. Again, I'm kind
of like a hippie. What does that mean? Yeah. Chemical blockers are sunscreens that basically
the uv light interacts their skin but they block the damage from happening with a physical blocker
the key ingredients would be titanium dioxide or zinc oxide um and they're basically coating your
skin so the uv can't penetrate into your skin telling me what it has i'm like looking at my
sunscreen right now too oh no no weird chemicals back there guys like i i just think you know we
don't truly know the long-term effects of having all of these strange chemicals on your skin all
the time they've done some studies and they found that the chemicals from chemical sunscreens can be
detected in the bloodstream right so that's kind of weird so i i prefer to just keep it really safe
and i actually think physical mineral blockers with titanium dioxide or zinc oxide are actually
better at sunblocking anyways so used to be they used to be super like white and pasty so nobody
wanted to use them they look ridiculous like you would look like this just as white goes to the
beach now they are so much better and they melt into your skin much better so there's really no
reason not to but isn't the zinc the zinc is what breaks me out i know i i was gonna say i have like
one brand of sunscreen that doesn't break me out and i just was on the ingredient list and put in
it was titanium oxide and zinc oxide you said are the two they're not in there so now i'm back
to square zero and I don't know what to do. So do you have like a recommendation for sunscreen
that works that is good for like sensitive reactive skin? You know, it can be tricky
because sunscreens typically are sort of thick. So if you have skin that commonly, you know,
breaks out, it can be tricky to find that perfect balance. Um, one thing that you could maybe look
into would be the loose powder sunscreen. So color science has one. I have no financial
stake in color science or anything like that. It's just kind of like a blanket recommendation,
but they sell actually a loose powder that's in a brush. It feels like you're not really
wearing sunscreen and it's really, really light. So something like that might be better for someone
with a more oily skin type that has a little more acne prone skin. Now you brought up something
about the junk for lack of a better word in all of our beauty products. I know that you're very,
very, very, um, into the clean beauty and no, you know, so what, there's so many differing
opinions on what is considered, like what label means, what does it really, if it says natural,
does that mean it's not giving us cancer? Like how do we differentiate other than using your
products? Well, it can be tricky, right? Because every, everybody wants to present their product
is non-toxic, right? I mean, people aren't really going to like go on and be like, try my toxic
skincare regimen. But there are certain things you can look out for. So all of the products that
are in my formulas, all of my formulas contain no water, they're waterless. So a lot of skincare
products, the number one ingredient. So the number one ingredient on the ingredient list is the thing
that's in there the most. Okay. So that's how you have to put that number one. If you look at most
skincare products, the number one ingredients, water, which means out of all of the ingredients
in their water is number one. You're basically paying for something that's at least 50% water
most of the time. And then because there's water in it, what they have to do is add these chemicals
to preserve it for preservatives because if if you have a water-based product within a week
two weeks you're going to start growing fungus bacteria all that stuff without preservatives
in that product the other thing that they do is they want the product to look a certain way so
add chemicals to make it like more white your skincare products in general would not come
this bright white color because ingredients from nature typically are not bright you know white
Right. Interesting. So they, they add all this stuff to try to make it look that way because
they've found in studies that people like it to look that way. And then they add stuff to,
to make it smell a certain way. And then you get the fragrances on board, you know,
potential hormone disruptors and things. So you kind of going from top to bottom,
you're looking at the water based products are going to have the preservatives. And then when
you start looking at products that, you know, have a very bright white appearance, have fragrance
at it. All of those things are things I would kind of look at and be maybe, you know, not choosing
that as part of my product. We're all just being tricked. Yeah. I have to go back to Squirve.
One with everything. I'll send you a boy stuff because I, this is not, you're not giving us a
single penny to talk about the product, but it's when I had a conversation with you, I was just
like, my head was exploding with every single little bit of knowledge you were dropping because
marketing is a powerful thing and if we're told certain things and i hear certain words i am a
sucker and i'm gonna buy that thing and so i just am so appreciative and i wanted everybody to know
so all the other thing i am so excited it's very lady gang you created a vulva oil because i just
saw it on the website i was like what is this why can you please explain why we've been neglecting
our vagina skin for so long and why we need to stop. Yes, absolutely. Um, I'm super passionate
about this because I just feel like overall, we don't talk about women, so-called women's issues,
right? We don't talk about vulvas. I, I have a four-year-old. So in my brain in Kanto just was
playing, like, we don't talk about Bruno. We don't talk about vulvas. Exactly. It was
like in my head, that's all I can think about. But several years ago, when I started thinking
of the idea, I was kind of like walking around at Sephora and I'm looking around at all the
different, you know, products. There's something for our cuticles, our knees, our elbows, our
eyebrows, our everything from top to bottom. And I, there was at that time, nothing for V care.
It was just a desolate region. Since that time, a few products have popped up for V care and
mostly they're just kind of like oil blends, like gentle oil blends, like to moisturize.
And I haven't been able to identify many products or any products that actually address specifically
what is happening to the vulva during different stages of our lives. And how can we make that
better for women? So as women, um, we will have these natural fluctuations of hormone levels in
the skin during, uh, maybe because we're on oral contraceptives, maybe because we just had a baby,
maybe because we're pregnant, maybe because we just had a new sexual partner.
All of these things throughout our lives can affect the hormone levels of the skin and the
microbiome of the skin. And in the vulva, when estrogen levels are high, you typically have
healthier skin cells, a preferential pH level, and a healthier microbiome as a result of that.
When estrogen levels plummet, for example, after you have a baby, estrogen levels just go
And a lot of women suddenly have dryness of their vulva area, tearing with intercourse, discomfort, perhaps even, you know, starting to have problems with yeast infections or bacterial infections, things like that.
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bye. You're listening to the lady gang. So this is like the age old question, but I'm asking it
because I even had it. Um, and I know that I've read it a million times online, but I want to
hear it from like the best doctor, uh, who handles this the most signs to look for when you are
searching your body for problematic places. Yeah, that's a great question. Actually,
it's hard because i would say the vast majority of times patients come in you know asking a
question about one spot on their skin and that spot is totally fine and we find something else
that's actually the spot of concern so i think it's really hard you know without training without
that trained eye to find the spot of interest but people can be really interactive with their
dermatologists in terms of monitoring their body for new things that come up and pointing those
things out because that's super useful as a dermatologist when someone's really aware of
what's new or changing on their own bodies. But overall, you know, people always hear about like
the dark mole and the, you know, the bad mole because people have a lot more education about
melanoma, which is a specific type of skin cancer. But the most common types of skin cancer would be
like basal cell carcinoma or squamous cell carcinoma. And those, a lot of people don't
really know much about um looking for a spot like that would be a pink spot that doesn't heal
sometimes something that bleeds that just people will describe it as like it comes and goes um
those are all things you know something looks like kind of an acne spot but it's there for months
it's not an acne spot right that would go away a lot faster jack's face just went to fear she's
like what well no i was just wondering are those on like sir because you said it like it like an
acne spot so it looks kind of like a pimple is that like on your face usually or like where are
you looking out for those could be yeah it could be anywhere i mean sun exposure is by far the most
common cause of skin cancer whether it's basal cell squamous cell or melanoma they say about 90
percent of skin cancers are essentially due to sun exposure so usually the places that you receive
more sun exposure would be the top places where you might get skin cancer right but it can really
berry it can happen anywhere it can happen where the sun doesn't shine even i mean i've seen skin
cancer everywhere my fiance we had a very scary spooky encounter with this uh old lady at trader
joe's that my my fiance has he's covered in freckles like he probably has a million freckles
on his body and she scared us into both getting our bodies mapped because she said that she had
skin cancer like five times and she's like you're gonna get it too because you're so freckly
but he was like i don't even know how they're gonna map me but his he got uh has like a
precancerous mole or something that was removed but it was like on the underside of the back of
his knee which is so crazy because it wasn't really where the sun is hitting at all wait so
when all this happened you went and got mapped and he did have something yeah i went and got
mapped because i got spooked and i take action and then after a while he's like oh maybe i'll
get mapped too because he was the one that had like the bad spell cast on him but wow yeah the
spot that they found i mean he has a billion freckles on his face but it was like where
the sun literally doesn't hit which is crazy you know it's funny how you mentioned you went in
first after this encounter because i would say nine times out of ten every man that comes in
the office there is a some woman in their life that forced them begged them dragged them tricked
them into being at the office at that time i've had people get so creative with having ways for
their husbands to have appointments like taking the appointment pretending they need a driver
you know all of these different things because men just love to like push off and push off
any sort of course they hate doctors yeah now how often should we be going to get checked so
for the self skin exam i would say like once a month because you look like neurotically or skin
every day you're you're going to get like so accustomed to everything on your skin that you
don't really notice changes but then again if you just wait every year you a don't know your skin
well enough to detect new things and b may miss an opportunity to be an early detection of something
so once a month just to look yourself and then for most people who are young who don't really
have anything much that we're monitoring you know just a check-in baseline and then maybe
every couple of years from there. But the dermatologist, the office will basically
provide that guidance in terms of how often you need to be seen because some people have
atypical moles or precancerous changes, and those people might need to be monitored every six
months. So it really varies pretty wildly, but just your average person, you know, just getting
a baseline just to see, Hey, am I somebody that requires extra monitoring or not can be super
helpful. I do want you to tell the story. I love a cautionary tale because sometimes people just
need to be scared into getting their head from buried under the sand to actually check themselves.
The story that you told me about the woman who you recently saw who thought she had an infection.
Yeah. So, you know, just, I just recently I saw a woman who thought she had an infection on her
lip and it was being treated with antibiotics and you know antifungals and all this stuff well
for six months and it turns out it's just this massively growing carcinoma and you know on our
exam it's like i'm feeling that there's a lymph node that i can feel and um things like that where
i think partially it's a public education thing where people aren't totally aware of the way skin
cancer presents itself like i said a lot of times it's always about the dark mole you know and
there's actually many types of skin cancers and this particular thing was more of like a sore
you know and and then again there's also that standpoint of taking um i guess ownership of
your own health care and making sure that if you need to you are seeing that specialist or
seeing that person who is an expert in that area of your body because um unfortunately people
like pushed, pushed aside in healthcare. You know, I think especially women, I think especially
women, sometimes they don't, they're, it takes longer to get at the right diagnosis for them
or their concerns aren't seen as valid. You know, there's, there's so many times where women
experience this sort of thing in medical care where maybe whatever they were noticing or feeling
or bringing to the table, isn't totally pursued as a medical problem. Right. So I think it's
especially important for us as women or people who are in minority groups for example who have
experienced that kind of lack of awareness in health care that they really push for their own
interests and their own protection when you have skin cancer does it show up in blood blood work
as well or is it only a topical no only it's only on the surface um saying well it's interesting
with skin skin cancer is such a fascinating thing because we have it's the only organ system on the
body where you can get cancer and we can see it right in the beginning, right? It's on the
surface. So something inside the body has to get really large before it's ever. And so because of
that, these cancers that arise in the body are so much more deadly. You know, we have such a great
opportunity with skin cancer to treat it at an early phase, but it really depends on that person
coming into the office and getting something checked out. And I mean, in addition to kind of
healthcare awareness. I also think just denial can be so huge. Oh my gosh. I have seen denial
take many, many forms in the office. And even when a very rational, a very educated person,
you know, has this ability sometimes to create a really false narrative for themselves and denial.
And especially when we're talking about something scary like cancer, um, you see those defense
mechanisms pop up for people. And unfortunately those defense mechanisms can be really unhealthy.
so um always just like checking ourselves with like the denial like oh it's fine it's fine it's
fine well you guys this is a public service announcement if you're listening and you
haven't been checked in a while denial is a scary thing um i'm gonna kind of segue into
another thing that i just very much admire you for um you are obviously a boss lady i hate the
term but you really are you're you know a doctor and you have these businesses and now the skincare
Caroline, I met your husband, um, over the weekend and I didn't realize that your dynamic was that
he is a stay at home dad. And I found this to be so refreshing and so modern. And I'm like,
how are there not more? I know that they exist, but it's such a, it's a newer dynamic. And I just
kind of wanted you to talk about that. Cause it's, I'm just, I think it's great. And I,
I think there's a lot of women out there. Yeah. You know, it's really interesting because
that just sort of happened naturally for us because he's just a lot less career driven than
I am. And we ended up moving to Austin for my career. Um, my career takes up a ton of time,
right. And, and so just naturally it just ended up sort of morphing that he was staying home.
Even before we had kids, he was staying home and like taking care of more of the domestic type work,
um more of the like organization stuff in our lives and i was kind of like going out and doing
the work outside the house and i've always been fascinated by the way people react to it because
i think it really like cracks open and and shows it's like it really shows the way that there are
still inequalities here in this country right now um because domestic labor is really not viewed the
same as non-domestic labor, labor that people think is supposed to be sort of like the women's
jobs. They aren't valued the same way that quote unquote, the men's jobs are valued. And the way
I really see it, I can see it just, it goes right in your face with like a patient's asking me like,
what does your husband do? And I say, well, he actually stays home with our kids. There's just
immediate like, oh God, you know, how do you get that deal? Or, you know, like this kind of negative
back. And it's so fascinating because like my male physician colleagues absolutely would never
encounter that. If they say my wife stays home to take care of our children, their response would
be overwhelmingly positive. It would be, oh, that's wonderful. I love that. You know, it's
important to have that foundation in the home. You know, what they're really saying is that,
you know, yeah, let's keep women there. We don't, we don't like to see the man working in that
sphere, because that challenges us in terms of our opinion about what work is truly valuable.
Oh my gosh. That's such a good point. It's so true. And I mean, I know what you do is really,
you're literally dealing with cancer and it's high stakes, but after having a kid for only
six months, I also look at your husband, Matt, and I'm like, he may deal with more stress every day.
Oh my God, you guys, there are, there are mornings where I'm like, bye, like have fun.
Yeah. Enjoy. You know, like it, it honestly is really hard. You know, the domestic work is hard
and it should be valued on the same equal level. And you know, the fact is that women still do the
vast majority of domestic work in this country, even if they're working, right? Like they're
still doing the majority. Um, we need to value that work. We also need to find ways to, um,
make it more equal, uh, for women and also encourage men to, to get out of the box a
little bit, you know, that it is important for me with my career, having that support system
has been absolutely critical. So, um, it works for us, but I will say, you know, mom guilt,
women guilt all that stuff never goes away and so you know I think as women a lot of times we tend
to really judge ourselves you know when we're at home with the kids we're thinking oh god like
I should be getting all this stuff done for work and then when we're at work we're like oh man I'm
like the one that never the one that picks up my kid you know I'm never the one that is there for
this or that and I think it's really hard because I think we do that to ourselves in a way that men
don't like, I don't really see my husband go down those trains of thought at all. I think as a woman,
it's so important to be aware and sort of like actively peel back those layers of woman guilt
that we all sort of experience so that we can be truly fulfilled in either our career or our
personal lives. I love that. Thank you. You are preaching the gospel here at the Lady Game. I
know. Well, please tell everybody where they can find you, whether it's at one of your clinics or
your skincare. Let us know. Yeah. I would love for everyone to find me. Um, so my skincare
company Foy by Dr. Collins launched exclusively with free people, um, in July. So you can find
my products online at free people. You can also find them online at my own website,
www.loveboy.com or on Instagram at love.boy.com. And, um, my office Austin skin has two locations
serving the Austin area. Our website is austinskinphysicians.com.
Thank you so much for being here and taking the time out of your busy, crazy life.
You guys are amazing. I can't wait to oil my vulva. Yeah, I know. Yes. Every day.
I just love the fact that I'm getting all this feedback that women are doing that and
they're feeling really empowered.
And I feel like if I can do one thing to just help boost women's confidence, empower them,
get them talking about quote unquote women's stuff, then I'll feel really good about what
we did with the vulva treatment oil.
I'm a huge fan of y'all.
I love this podcast.
It's so fun and funny.
So thanks for inviting me to be a part of it.
Thanks for coming.
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