LadyGang - Women's Low Libido, Addyi & Medical Gaslighting

Episode Date: October 7, 2026

After last week's live stream about sex drives and libido left a thousand questions unanswered, Cindy Eckert is back. She's the founder and CEO of Addyi and the subject of the documentary The Pink Pill: Sex, Drugs & Who Has Control. Cindy explains why low desire starts in the brain, not the bedroom, and why men who bring up a problem get a solution while women get a homework assignment. She also compares it to fad diets and genetics, and explains why wanting to want it is nothing to be ashamed of.The girls talk about the doctors who told women to "take a bath," why sex matters for staying connected in a long relationship, and Becca's lightbulb moment: women feel more connected after sex too. Cindy also opens up about how lonely it's been to lead this fight: selling her company for a billion dollars, watching it get shelved, and buying it back. She explains why she refused to stop wearing pink, and shares the story of the man who laughed her out of a room and later showed up in hot pink socks. Plus her best advice for women starting a business: only listen to the people who actually have the problem you're solving.Learn more at addyi.com and follow Cindy at @cindypinkceo. The Pink Pill is streaming on Paramount+.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Podcast One presents the Lady Gang, the Hollywood Girl Posse with Lady Gang Quicky. Here's Kelty Knight, Becca Tobin, and Jack Vannick. Let's make this quick. Hello, hello, hello. Welcome to Lady Gang Quickie. I am Becky here with Jack and Kelsey and a very special guest. Kelsey, how do we have? Well, we were so excited about this. So this last week we did a live stream and we got to talk kind of behind closed doors about our sex drives and libido and all.

these things. And then, you know, in typical lady gang style, it was a shit show in like the best way possible. But like girls were coming in. They could, their cameras didn't work. They're like, it doesn't work on that. Anyway, so we have about a thousand questions that we didn't get to. And so we had to bring Cindy back on. But let me introduce our guest today. Cindy Eckert is the founder and CEO of Addy and the subject of the Pink Pill documentary. But just listen to this guys. And she's been on the podcast before. So if you're a long time lady gang listener, may recognize her voice and her beautiful pink face. When there were 26 FDA approved drugs for men's sexual health, I'm talking like they can't

get it up, their penises are shaped weird, whatever, and there were none for women. Cindy called bullshit. She did something about it. She brought Addie because she had worked in farm before. The first FDA approved treatment for women's sexual desire to market. And then everyone was like, ooh, wow, we can make money off this. So she sold it. And then the farmer bros that bought it sat it on the show.

and they were like, this is not important. So then in a plot twist, worthy of its own documentary, she got her company back. And then they made a documentary about her. The pink pill, sex, drugs, and who has control? It's on Paramount Plus. We have watched it. We have discussed it with some of our community.

This is a must watch. Your jaw will be on the floor. Like, seriously, one of the best documentaries I have watched, especially because it has to do with us. She has spent her career fighting for women's sexual desire, challenging the double standards around sex and health care and refuses to take no for an answer. If you follow her on social at Cindy Pink's CEO,

you know that she is always trying to fix what's broken for us. So please welcome the woman behind the pink little pill. Wait, the little pink pill. Cindy Eckert. Welcome back to Lady Gang, Cindy. Oh, I love being with you guys. So much fun. We are just such a fan.

Literally women like banging the door down to get into talk about their sex lives. That was like a win for me. It was incredible. I had friends that don't listen to the podcast because they don't support. me. I'm just kidding. No, because they get enough of me in real life. I got like four text messages last night at 11 p.m. being like, what is this pink pill and do I need it? And I said, I know. You probably do if you're asking. So first, let's just start with that because people were very actually surprised. And I was like, wait, how do you not know about this? Everybody knows about this.

And I think it's because we're in your circle and we see the work you're doing and we follow you. but Addie is essentially the Viagra for women. Like that's the easiest way to say it. That's not how it works. But can you explain exactly what you have created? Totally. So it is the first FDA-approved pill for women's desire up to age 65. And here's how you're going to think about it.

It's actually not female Viagra, even though contextually, like, it's our first thing for our sex. But here's what goes wrong for us. Desire, which starts in the brain, not arousal, which is blood flowed at the, genitals. Like, that's it. So this is our version of our most common issue, which is that, like, you stop thinking about sex. You don't want, you want to want it, right? You owe sex to no one. But if you want it, and it's not happening for you, you deserve to talk about it. And that's really biological, and it's something we can fix. It was so interesting, too, oh, sorry, in our conversation last night with all of our lady gangers, so many different women. Like, there are so many questions

where it was like, okay, this is happening to me. Do you think I'm a good candidate? Oh, this is happening to me. It's such a different thing than like Viagra is for men, which is so, I mean, that's so typical, right? Women are so complicated. And so much of it is like, happens in our head where it's so nuanced, right? But I think that so many women, like from every single age, are kind of struggling with this issue in some way or another. And I think we've been conditioned that way. In fairness, like we haven't been conditioned. to think. We've been conditioned to think that this is so complicated and it's rooted in our emotion and everything else. And then there's also this, it's rooted in your biology too,

that I think gives people a lot of permission, like once we know that, I feel like if men go in and they're like, something's going wrong in the bedroom, they get a solution. If women go in, they get a homework assignment. As if we need one more goddamn thing to project manage, right? Oh, no, now I got to worry about what is my lingerie? Am I listening to erotica? Am I sketching? Am I scheduling date night? Like, it's actually not that complicated, everybody. We know there's reams of science that for millions of women, what happens is a disconnect in the brain.

Our brains are wired to want sex. We're wired, basically, to have biological drive. And for millions of us, that balance goes off kilter. And we can fix that if that's actually the cause. So I feel like I want to give women permission to, like, stop blaming themselves because culture has set it up that we blame ourselves as if only if we were to try harder, we'd have a better sex life. Maybe not. This is the parallel. I love this. You guys will appreciate this. I was speaking in L.A. and I asked a whole room like,

have you ever tried a fad diet? Because I knew 100% of the room would raise their hand. And the answer is, yes. 100% of the room, right? And I said, keep your hand up if it, if it helped you. and pretty much every hand went down. And it was a conversation we were having about, like, weight and GLP-1s. And it's like, just imagine for a second how many of us who've struggled with weight off and on tried everything, ate right, exercise, did this, carb deprivation. And then one day we were like, knock, knock, it also is your genetics. Like, it's the same thing story for women's sex drives. I just want to say that.

That's such a good comparison. It is really true. I want to just say quickly, if you're listening to this, you can go to adi.com and all the information is there. And I thought what was very interesting that we learned on our live stream last night was the amount of people that have women that have either gone to their doctor and had the bravery. No one, listen, you don't want to sit there and be like, and by the way, my sex life is lacking. Like, you're literally trying to get rid of your fibroids. Okay. And like get a mammogram. and make sure you don't have skin cancer.

Like, you know, listen, when you get your 10 minutes with your doctor, you're like, those are the things that you're asking about because those are top of mind. It feels so, I was reflecting on this, it feels so selfish to take time out of your life and your doctor appointment to say, and I'm wondering about my sex life. Because we've been trained that like, that's your fault.

And also it's not that important. Like if you're not dying, then you're fine. I thought it was so interesting that the women were like, well, I went to my doctor and I brought it up and they were like, oh, just take a bath. Or they didn't even know. Or they didn't know. And then the doctors didn't know what to do about it.

So I thought it was interesting. I just wanted to say that I thought it's great that through Addy, you can get with a telemedicine doctor so that you can like avert even having that awkward conversation with your doctor in the room, which I think is really important. Why was that so important to you? Oh, my God, for women to have access for exactly what you say because either I don't want the blush factor to slow you down. Like you're embarrassed to bring it up.

You don't have time or you have a list of other priorities. Plus, I don't want you to be with, honestly, like a doctor brushing you off, which they do. Medical gaslighting is part of the reason we're so far behind in women's health. Let's just lay that on the table. It's appalling to me. And so I wanted you to talk to somebody who was a real expert on the other end of that communication in this area. So they could help you figure out if it's right for you or not. That to me was about access from your living room on your iPhone when you want to like ask the

question that you may be too embarrassed to bring up anywhere else. You know, I was thinking last night, I was laying in bed and I was thinking how you're training these doctors to also have the vocabulary and the questions to ask. And I can't wait for that to catch up because I went to bring my new daughter to the pediatrician and there's a questionnaire. and it asks the mom all of these questions. And it's all basically, are you suffering from postpartum depression? Those are the questions.

And they're so important. But it's like at the gynecologist, why can't I have a form? I don't have to look my doctor in the eye. I can say, yes, my libido feels extremely low and I'd like to address it. And it's like, we've come so far, but yet we're not far enough. And you are really trailblazing. And Dr. Davenport, who was on the. had such interesting things to say. And she's just, it's so cool to see women doing this and together.

And like, it's so inspiring. It's so cool. I really think, honestly, like, we had a physical health revolution, like way back, even I think all of our ages. Like, we did the presidential physical fitness. Like that was actually like a revolution to like prioritize it. And then there was mental health and exactly what you said, Becca, now at least there is a form that is trying to figure out if you're struggling with postpartum depression. And I think really the next frontier, you guys, is sexual health. And what's happening is I'm watching even like OBGYNs, all they were trained to do is deliver your baby. You are a baby maker. That's what women are. And we do that. And then we do reproductive cancers. But what's happening is you're seeing all of these doctors now be like, no,

I'm a gynecologist. And I also have to deal with all the sexual health related issues. And And like a Dr. Davenport who, you know, is incredible and leading this at Wake Forest School Medicine, it will change the game. It will change the game. And you're saying last night how watching the documentary, you get like points, like if you're a doctor, right? Which I think is so cool. It's incredible. So the film came out. It won the audience award at Doc NYC. I want to say this director, Ashley and Chinye, is spectacular. She just got nominated actually for a director's Guild Award, too. I think a lot of the medical community watched it, said, holy shit, like,

I don't even know this information. I had no idea. And then an independent group certified it so they can get continuing medical education, CME credit or CE credit. So nurses get education credit for it. And it's just because I think it is eye-opening about like gender disparities in medicine and what we have to do to fix them. It's wild. So wild. It's crazy. It's crazy. to watch the footage in the documentary of all of the news stations and all the anchors. I was so disappointed in the female journalists

who were mocking the pill and almost doing the thing that everybody does or a lot of people do where it's like, just go have a drink. And it's so sad that even for women, we've been conditioned to mock our desire. Yeah. And that narrative, I'm happy that is shifting

because I can't imagine a woman doing that now, but I'm sure it could still happen. We're not that far away. It's like internalized misogyny. It's so gross. There was a newscast yesterday where basically they talked about what can you do with this issue? Not once did they mention. And it's crazy because they're talking about, oh, we're so far behind in women's health research. Here we have a medication studied in more women than any of the products for men. We have 13,000 women in clinical trials and you omit it, that's a different form. That's medical gaslighting too. I think the hardest part of this film for women to watch or medical professionals to watch is

like, oh my God, am I part of the problem? Like to sit in the room and watch women, like, have the courage to bring it up. That did not require they also had to have the courage to convince us what their experience was was real. And they were mocked and ridiculed. And the woman that gets to the microphone after like a woman very tearfully says this is breaking up my marriage and she's like, I have an idea for you. Eat chocolate. Oh, God. Horrifying.

We have talked about it in our friendship and on the lady gang, but then watching on the live stream our lady gang kind of discuss it. And then a lot of the questions that were submitted prior, I think that we and I'm just like, listen, all relationships, of course we love. but just in a general sense of the lady gang listener, like we love our partners. Like we love our partners. We love our husbands.

We loved, and a lot of the girls, like, we loved having babies with them. We want to grow their family with them. We don't want to get to a place where we're like in a sexless marriage. And then it all,

everything stems from them, right? Like I'm thinking of all the times of my friends. Like you're like, oh, then I had my kids. And then we kind of split apart. And then we just weren't connected anymore. And now we're divorced. And now we're,

and it just gets mess. I'm not saying having a sex life is going to save your divorce from your shitty ex-husband. But, like, staying connected through the trials and tribulations of life, sex is such an important thing to men, for sure. Like, they're going to go find. They're going to, if they're not faking you, they're going to fuck someone else. I'm sorry. Like, I hope that's not so bad to say.

That's a little bit of a Jay-Z quote. But, like, you know, it's like, we've been trained to think this, right? But then also, like, I don't know what I'm trying to say, but I just like, God, this is like such a, recipe for happiness and your life. Like this is more than just a sex life. This is a partnership, a marriage, a relationship staying on track, closeness to each other. Like, I don't know, does that make sense in me? It makes so much sense to me. I can't even tell you. And I'm going to tell you one of like the hallmark, my little tell that it is right for a woman is the first thing she says to me is she says, I love my partner.

But I never think about it anymore. And it's not a relationship issue, right? Like they want to want it. They want to be connected. I mean, look, this is a person we choose to be the most connected to in our lives. And when that disconnects, that intimacy, and by the way, there's data for this. So let's just go to science for a second. Harvard did the biggest study ever predicting what would tell what what is the thing that would say you were in your best mental and physical health in your 80s guess what it was the closeness of your relationship in your 50s wow oh wow one thing wild they looked at everything they followed you know so that intimacy is such a big piece of our overall health our connection as a human being and

And when it is disrupted, like, make no mistake, it's causing a lot of pain in these relationships. And it's causing a lot of pain to men too. I told that story with you guys. Like, I will never forget talking about this story and to a room full of men and like the big burly guy who feels like the guy that would, you know, not want to listen to the women in pink complaining about women not having a product for their sex life. when he left the room and came back in and said he had to go out to the hall and cry, the room was silent. But all the other guys are like, holy shit. Like, is this going on?

Is this what's happening like in my relationship? And am I a jerk that like I thought it was just about me? It's magical when you see a couple realize like, hey, she's struggling with something and it's biology. That's what I thought was so interesting about the fact. obviously when it was purchased and then shelved. And I think that's so, there's so many layers to that, but the biggest one that always comes up to me

is the fact that like, wouldn't men want their wives to enjoy and want to have sex? Like, why are you taking this from us in the first place? Like, it's a win-win for everybody. And that's what I thought was so wild about that just in general. It's really crazy, like how undervalued women, And look, part of that is nobody knows how to wait into this conversation culturally because I have so many arrows in my back.

You can't even believe it. And they don't want to take it on. Like they don't want to take on culture where people always have an opinion about like how much sex you should be having or not having. And so it's a, it's so loaded. But I'm like, I'm here to tell you it's just science. Once you realize it's just science, just like weight is just science. Like it's just biology. It's just genetics. And like it's the beauty of living in the world of modern medicine. Things can help you when you're struggling with them. You get a lot of relief. Yeah. I laughed out loud in the documentary when the woman was like, okay, so we've got all these men on Viagra. But like where are the women that are going to want to have sex with them? Where are they putting these dicks? Literally.

Like they should want this like Jack is saying. And the other thing, I had a light bulb moment. last night after our conversation. And I felt like I'm guilty of this. And I think we all are in our friend groups where there's this thing where it's like, in order for my husband to feel connected to me, he needs to have sex. But in order for me to have sex with him, I need to be connected in all these other ways. And that is true. But it's also, I'm like, it's kind of disregarding the fact that I also feel more connected

after sex. Yeah. Like it's not, it's not like he takes out the time. trash, that's my orgasm. And then I have sexed him, that's his orgasm. Like, reframing that to acknowledge that I also want to want it, which is the whole basis of this medication, it's really like, I feel empowered to be that person in my community to be like, you guys, we also like sex. We really do. Remember, like, you know, dry humping in a station wagon. We still have it. It's in there. Like, it's the same parts. It's just in our head.

It's so fun to return to that, too. Like, it's so delightful. Like, if that's been missing and you've just been, that's the beauty of, like, also reframing that for women, it's desire and for men, it's arousal, most commonly. And so what happens, I think, when we, a woman goes on this and it, it's good for her, right? It works for her is she's just in the headspace. Like, she's just kind of, like, feeling it a little bit more. You know, like, you watch the movie and you see the sex scene and you're like,

Yes. Like that looks good. I'll take that tonight. And it's just fun to even be feeling that, whether or not, like, we need to redefine sex on women's terms, not just the like physical act and destination, but like this whole fun of like thinking about it, wanting it, being receptive to it, all of that. And I think that's the spark that really comes back. That's what you see the most. Some women on Addie are just, the only thing they talk to me about is their sex dreams. And I love it because it's really saying to you, that's your brain. Like your brain is biologically wired to have this thing percolating. And if that's what turns back on, like, great.

I love it. Great. I don't have to read any fairy porn to get that feeling back. Oh, my God. You know that doesn't work for me. Cindy, I want to ask you just a personal question. Like, how are you? You know, you are this woman who's out here.

just fighting a fight as a loner. You know, I know you have support. I know you have a great partner yourself and like obviously a team. But like what is that like to be at the forefront of something and trying to like literally change the world? Exceptually lonely. You're sweet to say that to me. Like I think I felt that so immensely watching the movie. because I, you know, I'm so like look forward, don't look back.

Like you can't relive it. You survived it. Keep going. And watching it kind of put me in a puddle. Honestly, like I was right back in the room with like the people mocking and all of the cheap shots at me and the media, you know, like little snide comments that haven't aged very well. And so the thing is, though, the part of my brain. that is weird, is if one woman walks up to me and says, hey, thank you.

This really changed how I was feeling about it. I'm like right now, right back in it. Like it's my battery comes right back on from all of that. But it's sweet of you to say that. I think it's been incredibly lonely. I find myself often disappointed, like with doctors, with friends. You know, like again, like how can you know this and not give women this information,

like my brain can't compute that. Like we need to help women who are asking for help. I think it's important to note, we put in this out a couple times when we had the conversation with the lady in community. But Cindy's story is really interesting. I mean, she,

before she took this drug back, she sold it for a billion dollars. And she could be on a private island right now. And the fact that you are, you went back and you were like, wait, these people that I sold this to are not doing the thing that my whole mission is about. And you went back and you hustled and you were grinding. And I'm sure it would be nice some days to be on your private island and not do this. But it's a real testament to how much you believe in the drug and the mission. Thank you, Becca. I mean, it's been all my money back in it to get it to market, right? Like I'm going to let women have this choice. I don't actually care if you ever take it. But man, I care if you don't even know it. And I think that's what drives me every single day is like,

how do you change a medical establishment to stop gaslighting women? How do you get information that is like fake news and like fear mongering off of the labels of products for women? How do you make insurers do what they're there to do? And that is cover our like, how can it be that women don't get a miscarriage covered, but a vasectomy is off? Not in our lifetime. We have to change these things. think, you know, that's always been the driving force. Yeah. It's a sickness. I don't know, sometimes my girlfriends are like, Jesus Christ, like, can we just relax for a second? They're like, no, go to Alice Beach and turn off your Wi-Fi. Jesus. The last thing. Little intense. Yeah. No, and I thought it was really interesting and such a

good lesson, whether this drug is for you or not, I thought in the documentary, the Pink Pill, you know, towards the beginning of it, they talk, you talk about how everyone around you was like, you need to stop wearing pink, you need to cut your hair, do not wear the makeup, do not come to us looking like a glam, girly. Like you got to look like a boring, smart girl. And you were like, you know,

and can you discuss that a little bit because God forbid women are smart and also love a lash. No shit. It's so true. Like that was such a big piece. And it was such a big piece of other women hating me. Let me say that. Other women hated that about me.

And actually, I think our loudest critics had a real issue with me wanting to show up in like a pink lipstick and still talk about this. And, you know, for me, like, it was just pink is a bit of a reverence. Like, if you have a problem with me wearing pink, that's a you fucking problem. Oh, yeah. And actually that is the problem. That's it. That's what I want to talk about. What is that right there? And so that's why like, you know, again, I'm pretty, you actually cannot, almost cannot find a childhood picture of me without me being in pink. But like also, once this became like a thing that everyone's like, how it's it pink now? I was like, yeah, the pink's going to get brighter and brighter and brighter until we tackle this once and for all. And so like I weaponized it. You think it's weakness. I think it's. strike. It's so is. It's so is. And also one of the reasons you're so memorable. Like what a, what a, like people talk about, oh, I got to have a personal brand. I got to have a thing. I remember meeting you for the first time and being like, whoa. And then I saw you again. I was like, oh,

I know Cindy. Oh, yeah. She's in the pink. Like, I never had to wonder if you were the other Burnett girl. Like, it was like very clear. I actually think it's a superpower. I talk about power colors all the time. Like, I, I think this is an amazing thing that if, you know, if you need Adi, great. But like, think about this. Think about how you've run your life and career, being so clear in who you are and your mission and coming prepared and looking the part and being memorable. Like, I think that's a really good lesson for women, too. Thank you, Kelty. I love when people like across Zoom, they're like, pink. They're like, I can't remember her name, but I do know. Pink lady. Pink lady. come here and it's great. I love it. I love it. My, wait, I have to tell a story. I have this wonderful

male woman. And when I was moving into my new house, she gets out of her truck. And she's like, are you the pink lady? And I was like in head to toe pink. So I'm like, yeah. And I had no idea. Like I was like, wait, I need your pill. And I was like, oh my God, she really knows like the whole thing. So that was a fun conversation with my postal woman. I love it. accomplished. I have an entrepreneur entrepreneurial question. We have a lot of women in the lady gang who are starting businesses, uh, you know, in the arts, all the things. You know, it's really scary to go out and blast off and launch a product or a service or a store or whatever. And when there are so many people,

especially you, you had this like on steroids, so many people telling you, we don't need this. We don't need this. This doesn't matter. It doesn't work. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. How on earth, like, what would you tell women because you're going to get those thoughts in your head and sometimes from the outside world. How did you not just say, whoa, this is like so much time, energy, money, heart that I'm putting in this. And like, did you start to doubt yourself or the or the product or the mission? Or how did you stop yourself from doing that? I think your inner voice always has to drown out all the external voices, right? It's really just a test of how much conviction do you have in this idea. But of course you doubt it. Are you kidding? Like I have countless nights crying, you know,

in my bed like curled up like, oh my God, what am I doing? The world is against me. And I think you just, you know, you find the, you find the person it does matter to and they become your sole focus. I say this to female entrepreneurs all the time. By the way, if you're outraising capital in a male dominated world and you're going to walk in and they're going to trivialize your idea, remember that you're choosing to and tell them, I'm not coming to the meeting unless you have people in the room who would be users of this product. So smart. You get to make a demand too. You're considering whether or not you sell them a piece of your baby. And I think that's a plot twist of a way to reframe it and actually get real, like if your audience is telling you, I don't know, you've got to listen to it. But if it's a

group of people who would never use your product anyway, drown them out. Wow. It's so smart. You know, I just finished Ari Emanuel, who, this is a little Hollywood insider, like, owned William Morris Endeavor and, like, owns all, like, the biggest agent, he was, his, his real life was Ari Gold on Entourage. And I finished the book and it's really well written. And he is a insane character, like, in his own story. And he's writing and he's clearly, like, self-aware, but also completely insane. And I got to the end of the book and I was so unfulfilled by it.

And I think, A, I was expecting more like Hollywood stories. of like, then we took Matt Damon, blah, which it's not. It's very much like the business of Hollywood. But I got to the end and I was like, there are no women in this book. The only time he talks about a woman is his ex-wife and his new wife and Oprah signing Oprah. Everything else is I called Jeffrey Katzenberg. I called this man. Then I called this man and I hate this men. And then we're on the golf course. And I got to the end and I was like, oh, this is the biggest boys club of all time. And I felt so unsatisfied. And I know this has nothing to do with. what I'm saying, but I'm just, like, you are exactly in that world where I'm sure you are going around and it is just such a boys club. And I was just like, oh, no, we are not even at the table. Like, I think I'm so important in Hollywood and you're like, oh, look, Gwyneth Paltrow of these people. No, no, no, no, no. There are no women. Oh, there's no women. I take a picture. There's

like a big conference every year, like, in this space and science. And it's in San Francisco. And I take a picture every year somebody goes to the second floor and looks down in the lobby. And I am the only woman in pink. And it's like, pink in a sea of blue and gray suits. And you know, they're like, oh, here comes the pink lady. You know that. Like, even in the industry and I'm like, I've smoked you like two or three times in terms of my outcomes.

But sure, we'll stay there. I mean, that's just such a frustrating thing to be an, I will say, let me give, like now let me be an optimist. There was a guy, and I think I've told you guys this story before. I don't know when we've talked before on the podcast. He was such a dick to me. I can't even tell you. He laughed me out of the room in front of a lot of other people when I got started in this business.

And like him having like even tacitly endorsed this idea would have meant everything. But I kept in touch with him. Like I think our psychology would say never write him again, you know, F him, whatever. I kept reminding him how I was doing and the progress so that one day I could pick up the phone and be like, hi, I just sold that for a billion dollars. Did you check? Did you catch it? Oh, my God.

Because that was such a fun call to make. And I will tell you, fast forward, you've got to leave the door open for somebody to change their mind and do better. And so he came to my office, sat in a hot pink chair in my boardroom. And he's wearing his, like, gray suit, you know? And then he says, Cindy, I want to show you something. And he pulls up his pant leg and he's wearing hot pink socks. No. And I was like, that was his biggest, like, I'll never make that mistake again.

And it's great. So he's invested in other female founders with me. Oh, my God. I do think a big piece of it is like, what do you hold on to? It's the same thing back at your question. Like, silence the critics, right? What is the inner voice telling you? What is the depth of your conviction in this?

And only talk to the people who really are experiencing the problem you're solving. Because everyone else is just opinion. Yeah. Yeah. That's such a great advice. How funny. What a feeling. It was awesome, actually.

You can sit all day and be inspired by Cindy, but we have things to do like you. You need to go to addy.com. If there's any part of this conversation that's interesting, you go to addy.com. You can find a telehealth medicine provider right on the site, but there's so much information on the site about it. There's a quiz. There's all kinds of things. You can follow Cindy at Cindy Pink CEO.

She will keep you updated on all of her journey. If you want to just be inspired constantly, definitely. definitely follow her. And we have a lot more coming out with Cindy and we'll be reminding you of this. And we just thank you so much for coming on. You are such an inspiration. I literally feel a little life force coming back to me talking about.

I can do that. I can change the world. I can change the world. I'm counting on it. You guys are changing the world. Even your community, let me just say this before we go. The community supporting one another last night, like there was so much like, yes, yes.

like with the other women who were bravely bringing something up, that is so delightful to watch. And that's a credit to all of you guys. It really is. Thank you. We have awesome. Awesome. Totally.

Yeah. We really do. Okay. Well, we weren't here for a long time. We're here for, let's say, pink. Pink time. Pink time. I love it.

Lady Gang is hosted and produced by Healthy Knight, Beckettobin, and Jack Vanek, with social media support from Collie Carrera, audio and video and video editing from Jared Monaco, and additional support from Steve Delamette. and podcast one.