Language of Love with Dr. Laura Berman - Ecstatic Dancing

Episode Date: October 20, 2021

On today’s episode of “The Language of Love,” Dr. Laura Berman talks about her newfound hobby, Ecstatic Dancing. This unique form of dance is often misunderstood, and many people may not even know about this amazing, transformative form of body movement. So, together with Robin Parrish (Co-Founder and Managing Director of Ecstatic Dance LA), Dr. Berman discusses what ecstatic dancing is really all about, as well as how she has been using ecstatic dancing to cope as she moves through her grief journey after her son’s death. Ecstatic dancing isn’t about learning choreography or having the best rhythm: It’s about leaning into the changing waves of our lives, and learning how to dance and move with these ups and downs. Ecstatic dancing is all about listening to the wisdom of your body, and moving through any fears or doubts as you embrace the music within you. Ecstatic dancing has been said to lead to feelings of ecstasy or pure joy, and whether you do it alone in your backyard or with a group of friends or fellow dancers, you may find that this dance feels meditative, rejuvenating, or that it promotes feelings of serenity. In fact, ecstatic dancing has its roots in religious rituals that reach back thousands of years into human history. Listen to today’s episode to hear about the benefits and history of ecstatic dance, and how you can start grooving like Dr. Berman. Click here to learn more about Robin Parrish and Ecstatic Dance LA.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hey, I'm Dr. Laura Berman, a sex and relationship therapist. And for the past three decades, I've been helping people learn how to love and be loved better. That's what we're doing here on The Language of Love, where I get to answer calls and emails from people just like you. My goal with The Language of Love is to help you discover more meaningful emotional and physical intimacy and to help you build more awareness of how precious and sacred your sexuality really is. Be sure to email me or reach out with your very own love sex relationship questions

and I might just answer them live on the air. It's time we all become fluent in the language of love. I'm so excited to share this guest with you. His name is Robin Parrish. She's the co-founder of Ecstatic Dance LA, and you have probably seen me. I know people love to see me dance on social media, but you've probably seen me many times at Ecstatic Dance because I often film a little bit while I'm there. But Robin is not only the co-founder, he has a background in education, performing arts,

music, as a profession. He's all about transformation, which, you know, I'm all about as well, and does a lot of different transformational experiences or transphotainment, as I like to call it, which is all I'm interested in doing or creating these days. So thank you, thank you, thank you for joining us, Robin. Thank you, Laura. It's a pleasure and an honor to be here. So I kind of came up and stalked you a little bit, but I mean, not that you're not very

open and friendly. I started, my friend introduced me to ecstatic dancing. I didn't realize it, but I am an ecstatic dancer by nature. So I, you know, I was just joking with my youngest, who's now 16. And we were cracking up about how whenever my husband would leave the house, I don't know why we would probably because he would have been he would be traumatized if I for something about him leaving the house. It was probably because the boys I had, you know, they were 14 months apart, would get

nervous when one of us left. So I was probably trying to, like, make it exciting. And they loved being naked. So every time their dad would leave, I'd say, naked dance party. And we'd put on the music and we'd all start dancing around by ourselves. And anytime we were anxious or they were upset about something, we'd dance it out. And I still dance it out. But I'd never been to an organized, ecstatic dance before.

And my girlfriend had told me about it, but I was still so deep in the beginning of my morning and in the shock bubble and didn't even have energy to get to the beach, much less dance. But when I finally did, I loved it. It is. So I'm going to let you describe what it is. And I went like repeatedly, probably six times in a row until I started traveling and life. I'm getting out. I'm going to start going again, but I had to stop for a while. But I cornered you and said, I want you to come on and talk about the power of dance. But first, talk about what exactly ecstatic dance LA is like what, what this thing is that I've been doing that people are so curious about. Thank you. And I'm glad you stalked me because I'm glad we can have a conversation

about it because actually at ecstatic dance, you don't talk on the dance floor. It's one of the guidelines. It's a more of a feeling experience. It's a more of connecting to yourself experience. So loosely ecstatic dancers, some people might've heard the phrase or the name of it. It's a free form dance experience. And by free form, we mean you can move however you want to move. And it's funny in ways because we use the word dance is in there, but it's not dance as how we think of it. It's not choreographed dance. It's not learning dance moves. To me, the ecstatic dance has become more of a phrase as a permission slip for you to take some time to yourself and just enjoy this journey of enjoying music and knowing that you're in a collective experience, a community experience where you can move and dance and, you know, flow however you want.

but it's really up to you how how it looks and feels um so there's the only direction is really from the music which will start sort of slow and steady and build an intensity and have lots of genres and hopefully emote lots of emotions in you as a music can do and the framework for the the ecstatic dance floor or the experience is that it's a drug and alcohol free experience which is probably the most important guideline i'd say that sets the boundaries for one the tone of the experience, which is intentionality and consciousness. Exactly. Consciousness. Thank you. Yeah. So, so having that plane where we're all, okay, we're all sober, you know, clear headed in this experience. So you go through this process of moving and dancing. And the reason why the

other guideline is to take words out of the experience is because words are amazing, but they can also be limiting. We can also try to, we're kind of living this life experience and kind of interpreting at the same time being, oh, here's a door. I'm going to walk through the door. I'm walking through the door now. It's like, what is that voice that's kind of always commenting or narrating? So the experience in itself gives you this opportunity to sort of just be with yourself and see how you're feeling. And often, unfortunately, it can be uncomfortable for us to actually, you know, how many of us were so used to thinking and going on this problem-solving, you know, down the route of this problem-solving mind that sometimes we're actually a bit

disconnected from our bodies and how we feel. No wonder because we're probably in pain or subtle levels of pain. So the thinking and the busyness helps to kind of mask that. So it can be very uncomfortable when you first start, especially if you're sort of insecure or in your mind about how you look. And then you realize no one's looking at you, which I love. Everyone's just doing their own thing. So let me just set the stage for a minute because this has been happening on Venice Beach, okay, at sunset, like right before sunset, as the sun is two hours before the sun is setting there is a dj you have a different dj every time everybody gets the you know remote headphones so it's like a silent ecstatic dance so and there

i mean usually when i've gone there are at least 75 people and nobody dances together although i love your rule that you can kind of someone can approach you although no one ever i never really see other than people who come together. I never really see people approaching each other, but you can approach someone. And if you don't want them to dance with you, or you don't want to dance with you, you just kind of make the prayer position with your palms, but you don't, there's no talking really. Although you can go off and talk to your friend if you don't feel like dancing, but in the dance arena, there is no talking and you go into your own little world. And what I love about it, which is what I love about the, you know, I'm always teaching

about this on social media and on this show, this idea of embodiment. And, you know, this is something that I've worked with my whole life as a recovering codependent and also someone who struggles with a lot of anxiety and often didn't want to be in her body. At least I didn't know that consciously, but I didn't. And I'm also a big intellectualizer. So I think a lot. And that's where I also, you know, it's been a big part of my strength in life.

but as a result, I never cultivated being in my body. And I didn't really understand or learn the importance of that until I had breast cancer 10 years ago. And a coach slash really good friend of mine when I, who's a, you know, a badass, when I told her I had breast cancer, her first response was, well, no shit. You let the whole world suck off your tits. Metaphorically, you're never home. You know, of course you were going to get breast cancer. So that was a big wake up call. And I got much more committed to staying home and grounding myself. And that's what ultimately led to my book, Quantum Love and everything else. But I didn't realize how much further I could go until I went through the loss of my son, where I knew that if I didn't stay home in my body and move this

stuff through me, I was going to get really sick. Like, I don't even want to say it, but like, I knew I was not going to stay healthy if I didn't move that. You're right. It's not pleasant. And often, but the unpleasantness, and this is why I think it's so important that you do this for two hours, even though it seems like a long time, if you get tired, you can sit down, like you can basically sit there the whole time if you want to and tap your toe, doesn't matter. But what I like about it is that, you know, and I'm always preaching this, an authentic emotion, if you continue moving physically, an emotion is energy in motion. And so if you allow yourself to move it through you, which just basically means giving up the resistance and moving how your body wants

to move, then it only takes a few minutes for that emotion to pass through you. So, yeah, you know, you might cry for a minute or what I often end up doing is like stomping the crap out of the ocean and anger or like emotions will come out. You move them out. No one's looking. The music is like carrying you away and then you keep going. And so instead of just like feeling the emotion, you continue moving through it. So by the end of the two hours, you really are ecstatic.

Yeah, I'm really glad you put it like that because sometimes think with the name ecstatic, they think, oh, it's going to just be joyful. And hey, why is the music not just upbeat all the time? It's like, no, we need to sometimes go into those darker places. And you're right. The real transformative moments and the ecstatic feeling

is when you maybe face an emotion that was so challenging and you've been resisting it so much. And like you said, so wow, you go through it or you feel it and you, you go into it head on. And then suddenly it transmutes, just like bringing awareness into it, just brings it into the light. And once it's into the light, it just transmutes. So, so you're so right. And that's why we call it a practice. And it really came out of, there are conscious dance practices, which are sometimes more meditative kind of led experiences, or even ones where you go deep into shadow work, where you put a blindfold on,

for example, and you're really held space and you're encouraged to shake it out and those types of things so these practices are part of ecstatic dance but ecstatic dance is more kind of a conscious dance playground we like to call it so you can bring in your different whatever wherever you're feeling it's it can be just light and celebratory and that's wonderful when you have those dances or or it can be the deeper darker sort of more shamanic transformational experiences that you have too yeah but it's but like like it it is a practice and once you have these experiences on the dance floor you you take it home you realize actually you realize where maybe you are disconnected, or like you said, sometimes it takes five to 15 minutes to shake it out. And once

you, that thing where you face a fear and you go through it, you do get stronger. Absolutely. And you realize that wasn't so bad and I feel better. And it comes in waves. Yeah. And it's not going to take me over and I'm not going to stay stuck here. And, you know, I love how you said in one of your, what we were just discussing before you said that it turns off the narrator. And I think that's so important because for so many of us, myself included, historically, I would try to think my way out of my feelings. And that not only keeps you more stuck, but it also keeps, it keeps you from healing in a way. So I'm a talking doctor who

at this point in my career, I'm doing as much not talking and about energy and being in your body and feeling the sensations and recognizing where that somatically is felt and the power and the healing that comes with literally moving your body so it releases the energy of the emotions. And it's hard to do that if your narrator is on. So turning the narrator off

not only means that you stop being self-conscious, you're not even aware really. I mean, maybe for the first five minutes, you're like, what the hell am I doing? And there is, let's just say, good people watching there because some of the characters that come are in these like amazing twirly skirts and symbols and people get really into it.

And that's actually fun to watch or at first you feel a little self-conscious, but that very quickly disappears because A, you realize no one's looking and B, it just, you really get into it. And I've watched, there's no one that doesn't get into it. And I've taken a lot of people there. In fact, before we're done talking,

I've decided that on my birthday, That's what I'm going to make my kids and my friends do with me because my birthday is on a Sunday when you have ecstatic dancing in L.A. So I'm going to come ecstatic dance on my birthday and that I'm going to make them all come and they'll be uncomfortable at first. But then you get into it. And when you turn that narrator off, it's like I have a chapter in my book that is turn your brain off so your mind can work. You know, it turns that off so that your body can kind of take over and release what it needs to release, which I think is really beautiful. OK, when I sell my business, I want the best tax and investment advice. I want to help my kids and I want to give back to the community. Ooh, then it's the vacation of a lifetime.

I wonder if my head of office has a forever setting. An IG Private Wealth Advisor creates the clarity you need with plans that harmonize your business, your family, and your dreams. Get financial advice that puts you at the center. Find your advisor at IGPrivateWealth.com. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Because also there's an element of getting into flow state. We can get so used to thinking our way through life, but maybe we're not actually having the, we're feeling disconnected because we might not actually be connected. Sometimes we can have an experience that we're like i've been wanting this experience to happen so long why

am i not as connected as i used to because we're not used to it we're out of practice we're so this the minds are incredible tools incredible tools but and in a sense you can see in our society too how disconnected we are from our very planet you know just how we treat our animals and the planet and in a sense there's a kind of relationship to that the mind we we might never find peace in the mind. But if you go to any, any meditation practice, any spiritual practice, it all often will go to the body. And there's been some incredible work. And the breath, which is part of the body. The breath, exactly. So you can't think and sort of be breathing and tuning into your body at the same time. So in that sense, we become, we strengthen that witness aspect of us

that can sense when emotions are coming up. So even in our lives, when we actually then go through even deeper challenges we have, we are better equipped because one on the aesthetic dance floor where, where, you know, things change things, we're suddenly feeling great. And then if we're feeling terrible, what we, we go through that motion. So in life, we have a sense of being able to, to stay present and, and also not everything can be fixed from the mind. In fact, if we're in a fearful state and we're making choices out of fear, honestly, that's going to continue to sow fear into our lives. So it's not to say that we feel love when we're in our bodies, but we can actually drop into maybe a deeper intelligence that's actually rooted in our body. That's

actually deeper in our, you know, however long we've been on this planet. So there's a lot of intelligence in the body that sometimes isn't felt or taught because we might not know how to teach it because it's so abstract, but ecstatic dance gives you the tools. And then it's because it's not led, you yourself lead it. So sometimes you realize that, hey, I was going through this challenge and I really wanted to speak to my friend, but because we're going through this experience where you don't speak, you move it through. I moved it through and I got myself through it. And I think, I don't need to talk about it anymore. And for us ourselves to take ourselves through it, then that's, that's a whole nother level of healing and self-healing. And then

we can help others. We can be bridges then for other people to be able to access. And sometimes people come and the experience of dance and they don't even dance. They just witness it. People being freely expressed. They come and tell, tell us how much that inspires and influences them in themselves. I've noticed that. I've noticed some people, you know, everybody who walks by who doesn't know what's going on, like tourists are like, what the hell is happening? And that's always kind of funny. But I also see people watching just in awe. You know, I can see that it's deeply affecting them to see almost a hundred people moving in tandem, but all totally in their own worlds and doing different things. And I think it's also, there's also just the

physical, it's exercise. It releases all kinds of dopamine. You feel great afterwards, but you know, I'm always saying that the body is the bridge to the soul. Like that's how our soul communicates with us. And I just think it's such a beautiful way for people to make that connection and to clear. And you're right. It is like a muscle that as you practice this, then it kind of translates to your day-to-day life when you're not on the beach at sunset dancing, but how would you say, because I know you guys have ecstatic dance LA. I know you do it. You've done, or they have ecstatic dance in different cities. Is it all part of the same organization or is it different? First of all, we're connected as a practice, just like, you know, maybe when yoga started,

have you different studios, different people would practice yoga. So what makes a true ecstatic dance, at least this form of ecstatic dance that we're following is those three guidelines of the no drugs and alcohol uh no talking and then also no photography or video on the dance floor ideally so that's what we all follow so if people are actually tuning in and they would like to you know maybe find an ecstatic dance close to them ecstaticdance.com is a non-profit website it's a free listed website where people can host their own oh cool so we're still as a community we're still quite young you know in early 2000s it started in hawaii and then brought over by um tyler blank and donna carol to oakland where they have a really big ecstatic dance

And now we're practicing all over the world. And I think it's so cool. From morning hockey with a cup of coffee to Timbits and road trips, Tim's and Canadian Tire have always gone together. Now it's official. You can now earn Canadian Tire money at Tim's. Link your Triangle Rewards and Tim's Rewards accounts

to earn twice with every Tim's run. Terms and conditions apply. Visit timhordens.ca slash triangle for details. And if you don't want to join, I will say this. The old me would have been like, okay i'll do it via skype at home by myself where no one can see me and there are some benefits to that and i want to ask you how someone might be able to do this for themselves if either they don't live in a place where there is an ecstatic dance group although pretty much every city has

one i'm guessing or they just really consider themselves not a group person but before i say that i will say that there is a collective energy that is worth bathing in that's it in the group If you can, you know, and you, and I promise no one's looking at you and it's so good to get out of your comfort zone that, that way, first of all, but also to bathe in the collective energy. But if you're not ready for that, or you want to just to try it on your own, what would you recommend? Thank you.

Yeah. A couple of things. If you wanted to try the online version since, since the pandemic, that's where we, we all jumped online and a lot of different bounces on dumped online. And so now there are, which weren't happening previously, ecstatic dances online, where it might be more of a facilitated experience where you can see others, you can turn your camera on and off. But just getting to the basic, because we've been doing ecstatic dance in forms for thousands of years when, you know, what we could call it ecstatic dance. Maybe our ancestors would dance around the fires and have that same primal experience. So really the ultimate, but we've mentioned that word embodiment with this.

So I think even for someone practicing at home, maybe just try putting, you know, three songs or something like that and just start and just go through, just have the music, the music's there just to inspire. You can do it without music if you like. And just start with the practice, maybe start it as a meditation, start tuning into your breath and your energy field. And just every breath you're taking, even if the music's going on, you're bringing more and more presence, more consciousness into into the room, into your body. And just even though that mind, that narrator might start to say, hey, you're doing it wrong. This isn't it. Blah, blah, blah. Watch that. My mentor would say, move that. I'd be like, what do you mean, move that? He's like, move that voice. I'm like, what do you mean movie? He's like, move. How would it move? And then then I would start maybe like my arm would move and I'm not thinking, oh, I'm going to move my arm here. I'm just like, oh, this, this voice is analytical voice is driving me nuts. So then I start maybe

like shaking a little bit. I'm like, oh, that kind of feels good. And then I start maybe doing some stretching or some Tai Chi and just, just like a meditation practice, just keep bringing presence. Whenever that voice comes in saying you're not doing it right. This is silly. You're, you know, whatever it move it and shake it and challenge yourself, just challenge that voice. And just, just be aware of it, go into a highly compassionate space and then also move in ways it feels good. Like I find myself doing kind of like Tai Chi movements on the dance floor where I start to maybe roll my shoulders. Cause I'm kind of massaging. I do that too. And my, and I get my nonlinear hip. I try to do nonlinear hip movements every day because I think it's so

important for creative expression and divine feminine and releasing emotions and flexibility in my back. But I will do that for like 10 songs where I'm just literally moving my hips in a figure eight in different directions. Yep. And it feels so good. Yeah. Just allow ourselves to feel good. And I mean, I think a lot of us are shut down in our bodies for all sorts of reasons. And you know, if you speak to trauma therapists, they do say that we hold trauma in different parts of the body. So unless we really take time to get in body that that will manifest in disease, if we don't clear it or get to it or bring it into consciousness. So it's not about even you don't even if you've got a bad knee or something and you bring your attention to your knee it's not

about trying to fix it but just that intelligence that attention is bringing so much intelligence so much life intelligence then let nature connect with nature and allow nature to do healing on your body you know so in a way we become our much more energetically sensitive and we can feel we can feel maybe unfortunately we're often in a subtle especially these days for a lot of people in a bit of a fear state yeah and unfortunately you know that does equal not good health so if we are ultimately wanting to feel good in our bodies, we might have to go through this kind of like, you know, kind of abstract dance move experience, but just throw anything you think about dance or you as a dancer out the window. It's not about dance. It's your own experience

to connecting to yourself. Yeah. It's just moving, letting your body. I always feel like it's letting my body lead. If I stop thinking and I let my, and I ground myself in my body and I'm always teaching them how to take a deep breath through the top of your head, ground through your tailbone. If you do that and you just kind of even scan your body from the inside, you know, run your consciousness over your body and you find a hitch or a tight spot or whatever, and you just put your conscious awareness there, your body will be like, oh, hello, thank you for giving me some attention. Let me perk up and move or shake or cry or whatever wants to happen. So it is, I think it's a really beautiful and mandatory practice for anyone who wants to be emotionally and physically healthy to be embodied. And I love the ecstatic dance thing because it's such a fun and beautiful collective way to do that. And I agree with you that the, you know, we all, we're always saying the opposite of love is fear. And it's not just the fear about moving or dancing or what other people will think or what might happen if I step into this feeling, it's going to take me over.

But any decision, I always say this, any decision made from fear is a bad one. It just is. And when you're in fear, you can't see the possibilities because literally neurologically, your prefrontal cortex is shut down when you're afraid and your amygdala is taken over. And the prefrontal cortex is what sees possibilities. so you can't solve fear with the thinking mind because you're not thinking straight you're amygdala is thinking not not the rest of your brain so that's another reason why i think there's even more of a reason to move when you're afraid and the whole world is afraid right now for

lots of different reasons so i think we need this more than ever yeah yeah you said something so important there about you know activating the different parts of the brain too what are we really fully activated as human beings like you know if we really take a look at that we might realize that we're not and so there's this kind of holistic element when when you tap into not only your body but then now we weren't always dancing outside it's actually been such a gift that we have been dancing outside since the pandemic because not only are you going through this own personal experience where you might not have seen people for a while then even though we're at a safe distance it's still you know kind of healthy to see people around yes and then when

you're connecting with the sunset so we were doing we were very cautious as to when we restarted we were obviously on zoom for a long time. And then when it felt comfortable to start, or it felt safe, we started in small groups and just having that element of not only moving our bodies and being around people again, even though the pandemic was really, you know, it's, it was very challenging for a lot of people. And then, then you're witnessing the sunset and suddenly we're standing just as human beings, primal beings on the sunset. And even though yes, we're in 2021 or 2020, we'll kind of, our mind was out. There was also another element of us that was timeless being like oh my goodness and grounding in the sand the ancient sand that was

once rocks and that's yeah all of it like and I can't help but sometimes going through that dance experience and not feel into the miracle of life just as it is or the gratitude that I can even move even one moment at a time and sometimes it's challenging on the dance floor but I can hold space myself and then I I move and I might do a different dance move and go you know go somewhere else. And it's just, it's helped me in life generally. And it's something that I think is beautifully symbolic about the ecstatic dance floor too. It's like, you do you, you do your expression. I'm going to be here doing my expression. I'm fully supporting you doing yours. And that just creates this beautiful atmosphere where we're so supportive of each other and

accepting. And I feel that carries over into life as well as like our dance move is how you live your life, how you choose to live your life. And it's so beautiful that we have this experience of kind of a unity experience on the dance floor so we know what that feels like because maybe in our everyday lives we're not feeling that especially these days especially that and the longer we go not feeling that unity feeling we forget that it's even a possibility so for us to have these moments of unity in ways on the dance floor waking up i think is is essential for us to remember and keep that keep that energy alive and not only that but to grow it in the world that people can feel welcome that people can feel whatever even though they feel they might however insecure you are it's

like your life is your dance move how are you going to do it you know yeah how are you going to dance through your life and i agree i think there's you know but if you're not near or you know a group just and you're even if you're not near the beach go and put on your earphones and stand on a patch of grass you know and move your body but there is something really gorgeous i love that you guys are doing it in nature because that adds so much feeling you because your senses come alive too. And you're feeling the breeze on your skin and smelling the ocean and you know, all your senses are alive. And so you're no longer doing it. You were doing it twice a week on Wednesdays and Sundays. Now you're just doing it on Sundays at three 30 for the winter. Correct. Yeah. It gets

a little cooler. And so we're just doing Sundays right now, but also we'll start. So we used to do a conscious dance workshops followed by dance as well. So then you actually have facilitators come in and they do different workshops that might help give you tools to connect to your body. So one of them, my co-producer, Tassie, he does this incredible modality called Dancing Freedom, where he guides you, you actually go through the elements. So the first, you know, the first element is earth and you'll be very like earthing and grounding and very slow meditative music. And he'll encourage you to maybe roll on the ground or touch the earth. I'm so in for that. And then we step into water and water has a lot of symbology with relationships and you're down in your sacral

area so a lot of kind of twirling movement flowing movement helping you to get into your sensuality then you step into the fire and the fire we build this whole ring and you're meant to a circle with everyone dancing around and you can throw things in the fire that you want to transmute any prayers and challenges and the collective experience and you know is throwing that all into the fire and the music and the drums are increasing and then you go into air which is much much more flowy that release after the fire and then finally ether which is really opening up your crown chakra connecting to the you to the universe so you go from you can see the sequences oh tell me when and when is that we'll do we'll do yeah just keep following us

on instagram ecstatic dance la and our newsletter and we'll we'll start to announce those i think maybe on saturdays we're going to start because it's a bit cooler when we're dancing outside so usually winters would be our busiest season when we were dancing indoors but it it's still you know that question of whether we're going people are wimps though who cares you get so sweaty and it's not like it's arctic out there it's 70 degrees for god's sake but people get silly about the wind the la people get you know their wimps about the winter i think you should be outside all the time but i keep it going through the year for sure i love all of that and i think follow them and they can go to the website right ecstatic ecstatic dance la there is also an ecstatic

dance.com if you're also looking they have a few other dances on there too so we're we're still growing as a community and I think I think this will be more and more regarded as the next sort of health and wellness modality because it really helps you get into flow state yeah just as just as yoga was nuanced and meditation I feel like the three of them together yoga meditation and then some form of free form dance that's it that's my routine that's my routine I love it thank you so so much for the work that you're doing in the world and he's a wonderful I love when you emcee it too, because he does these little meditations and the start and finish. You come by it. It's not just the British accent. Your voice is very soothing and you come by it very authentically.

So I really appreciate you. Thank you for all you do. And I hope you enjoyed learning some more. Maybe you'll try it out. Even if you're just in your closet dancing to one song, see how good it feels when you start getting back into your body or into your body, maybe for the first time and really moving it. And remember that pressure valve I'm always talking to you about. You're not opening up the whole Pandora's box. You're just releasing the pressure valve and you'll feel so much better and lighter as you do that. I promise. So keep me posted on your thoughts on this episode and anything else you want to learn about on the language of love. I'll see you next time. where some see heroes and others see egos bloomberg sees the era of billionaire athletes

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