Language of Love with Dr. Laura Berman - My First Ever Interview with a Spirit Guide with Riz Mirza

Episode Date: March 13, 2024

In this Language of Love Conversation, I'm chatting with Riz Mirza. He may look like a heavy metal rocker (he is by the way), but he’s also a trance-medium psychic channel. We dive into the supernatural (and even spooky) stuff is a part of our natural world that we don't always see. Riz says that thanks to the limitations of our 5 senses, most of us have filters on that only let us catch a glimpse of all the info out there. Riz opens up about his own story, how he went from pushing away his psychic abilities to totally embracing (and yes rocking) them. He's all about embracing that sensitivity and the strength it brings. And me? I'm sharing some of my heartache and messages I’ve been receiving since loosing my son. Plus, get this – In addition to a mediumship reading with some wild messages from my departed son, Sammy, Riz channeled a spirit named Red Eagle and I interviewed him!! I’ve never interviewed a spirit guide before. It was wild. He's passing on messages about the state of the world, how to move through these crazy times, and giving a sense of validation that was so comforting. Listen in, it's going to be an incredible show!  In this episode, Riz (and Red Eagle) and I dive into: Understanding the limitations of human perception and processing of information The concept of suspending disbelief and being open to new ideas Why hope actually may work against you.  How to find joyful navigation through chaos Dealing with grief and finding meaning in loss Mediumship and channeling as tools for healing and connection with loved ones The power of sensitivity and self-expression Overcoming judgments and living authentically The transformative potential of navigating loss with grace Be sure to connect with Riz on Instagram and his website to delve deeper into his work. You'll find a wealth of content and insights waiting for you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hey, I'm sex, love, and relationship therapist, Dr. Laura Berman. And for the past 30 years, I've been helping people just like you learn to love and be loved better. Here on the Language of Love Conversations, I'm talking to some of the world's most influential and revolutionary experts, thought leaders, spiritual teachers, and celebrities about love, sex, and relationships from a mind, body, and spirit perspective. And that way, my goal is to awaken your mind, body, and soul. It's time to become fluent in the language of love.

Riz Mirza was in a heavy metal band, but always knew that he had psychic capacities. He just didn't know how to make sense of them, and he fought it for nine years. Since then, and stepping into his true gifts, he has become a trans-medium-psychic channel. And he channels a whole group of amazing entities from the other side. He's a medium, he's a psychic, and he's a shaman. And he's committed to helping others heal and, as he says, unlock the places that they're stuck and separated from their divine selves. We get into so many fascinating topics, and at one point in the conversation, Riz does

a medium reading for me that brought in my great-grandfather and my grandfather and Sammy and some other people. Then we got to meet Red Eagle, who is one of the guides that Riz channels, and I had a fascinating conversation with him. All you have to do to really get the maximum benefit from this episode and have your mind and your heart blown open and maybe even learn how to navigate these really difficult times, which is a lot about what we talked about. All you need is to relax, soften a little bit, suspend disbelief if that's your tendency,

stay curious with an open mind, and enjoy this fascinating episode of The Language of Love. Riz, thank you so much, first of all, for joining us on The Language of Love. Happy to be here. So excited to talk to you. There's a million topics. My peeps here are open to the metaphysical. We talk about it all the time, but most of us, I mean, some of my peeps may work in the field, But most of us don't live in these realms and work in these realms all the time. Oh, my God. I love what you're saying, because it is literally like you're just going to launch me onto the

racetrack right now, the starting gun with what you're saying. It's like three, two, one, because, you know, Laura, when you're talking about let's take this word metaphysical. So the metaphysical, the supernatural, the paranormal, I'd like to say that the supernatural is simply an expanded view of the natural. Yeah. It's not other than the natural paranormal. It's not abnormal. We live in this world, which has spirits. These spirits can be our loved ones who come in and out kind of giving us messages. It can be the spirits that are hanging around houses, not causing any trouble. It could

be the ones who do hang around and create some activity. So we are not separate from what people call the spirit world. We are not just in the physical. We are in the metaphysical because the metaphysical is simply that which is beyond your current capacity or current spectrum of awareness to be able to receive that information. Yeah, I think that's so important. I always try to help people understand this, that just in a scientific way, if you think about we're all limited, our perception for most of us until unless we're born into certain gifts or we cultivate those gifts, which we can do to an extent, we perceive the world with our five senses usually. And so we're taking in 40 billion bits of information into our brains every millisecond.

And most of us are only consciously processing 2,000 of those 40 billion bits. That in and of itself, when you think about all the information, just our brains, not even our more psychic aura and energetic perception, right? Just the processing of our brain. We're taking in 40 billion bits of information every millisecond and only consciously processing 2,000. And to me, that's always been such a beautiful piece of evidence to kind of demonstrate. That's what my dad used to say to me. I'm saying, you know, telling you 15,000 things to do today, Riz, and only remembering two. Exactly.

Which is when your allowance is, but you don't remember when to take the laundry out of the dryer. Well, let me say something about this, because I am, and for those of you astrology buffs out there, maybe because I have a moon in Scorpio, I'm very much into the details. Okay. So for me, before we begin the discussion, perhaps this is a Socratic method if someone were to use a literary type of lens on what I'm saying, is that I go for understanding what words are we using. So you said scientific, you said metaphysical, you said bits of information, facts that currently we can only go by the facts that we currently have. Because we might find out next week that it's twice that or half that. We may find out that there's certain things that affect that, that we had no idea about. See, when it comes to saying this word scientific, if I were to take this iPhone, look at my

tarot deck. I like it. Yeah. Amazon. Okay. So if I were to take this phone, me and you, Laura, and we were to travel to, let's say, Abraham Lincoln's time. Yeah.

Okay. That's not that far away, right? Because we have photographs of Lincoln. Yeah. So we go to Lincoln's time. I mean, I would say that arguably he was one of the most intelligent men of his time. So we go back, we time travel, we appear in the Oval Office and he's sitting there doing his work and he goes, who are you guys?

And we say, oh, hello, Mr. President. We've traveled from the future. We wanted to show you something. And we show him this iPhone. And he looks at it and he goes, that's an interesting piece of glass and iron. And we'd say, yeah, it is. Would you like to see the sperm entering the embryo? Would you like to see our friend who's standing at the Great Wall of China right now?

And he'll say hello to you, Mr. Lincoln. Would you like to see where we are from space with a camera zooming down to the top of this White House, right? We have all of this with Google Earth right now. And he would say, probably, that either he was dreaming, hallucinating, or that we were from another planet. And he would say, well, planet, we'd say we're from here. We'd say, oh, from 10,000 years in the future.

And we'd say, no, 100 years in the future. And then he'd say, well, I know that there's no little man inside of this. So how does this work? we'd have to explain to him the technology now this is remember we're talking about one of the most intelligent men on the planet at the time which would blow his mind right so we have to tell him that this little box of iron and glass as he calls it is speaking to another box that's flying around the earth i remember thinking that when phones came out house and i'm not i this was just 20 years ago you know and i remember thinking holy yet like how can this be possible or faxes

when faxing. Well, because we figured out how to make sound silent. Guys, come on. You guys, we talk about MP3s and downloading and CDs are considered passe. CDs, a piece of foil that is recorded sound that a laser extracts perfectly every time, consistently the same way. It's wild. We found a way to make sound silent and we could put it into material. So you know what I love about this discussion is that what we're essentially saying is suspend all disbelief, suspend what you think, you know, and what you don't know, because none of us know anything. And like Einstein, that's right of his life about quantum physics. He was totally freaked out. He didn't even know how to explain it. So he just called it Einstein, who had an explanation for

everything, called it spooky action at a distance. Did he call it that? That's the acronym. The acronym is sad also look at that okay so let's say this okay that i feel that teachers healers gurus intuitive speakers people who are teaching you something i really consider them tour guides and consider them the ones who have been up a couple of different paths further than you have and they've come back to tell you what they've seen yeah that's right that's all it is i've been going through that now we'll talk in a little bit about grief have had on a very deep personal journey of grief and I've always worked with people with grief as a therapist, but it hasn't been my primary focus, but I sort of see myself as a, I won't say a shepherd, like Jesus, you know,

I don't mean like that kind of shepherd, but like, I'm just a little further down the road. Like I've made, yeah, it's like a tour guide. I've made this trip and figured out the landscape and understand what's necessary and understand these new levels of meaning and portals available to us and here i'll show you what i've learned so that makes a lot of sense let's go back to this for a moment if we may yeah yeah so we keep talking to lincoln we have to explain to him about satellites explain to him about how we've made sound silent explain to him about frequencies explain to him that we are able you say well how did you make this these materials are certainly they don't see he would open it up he goes this can't be from this planet we'd say actually these

materials are under your feet right now. So that goes to my teaching of all the resources that you need are actually with you now. They're not resources that you need later. You're already linked to resources that you have. How you and I got here to have this conversation, how whoever's watching this right now, we could trace this back maybe to an event. If we keep tracing things back, how did you get this computer or laptop or phone that you're watching this podcast on what led to that we could probably trace it back 20 years ago we might trace it back to some random event where you had a flat tire and then a string of events led you over the course of 25 years to have this device sitting here and you're listening to this podcast

so you were connected to this moment 25 years ago so the resources that you need to shift yourself into your advanced technology what i talk about as a medium as a panel as a shaman all the blah blah, blah titles. They're simply about you understanding that you're connected already to what you may call your next level. I call it simply your actual freedom. And so I say that it's not out there. The universe is not out there. The universe is not planets and galaxies and star systems and nebulas. The universe clearly, when we say, why is the universe doing this to me? it's actually your future self saying i'm creating something for you and this is where you really have to plant your flag if you intend to have a sane life in what seems to be a very

insane world seems to be yes i think i know where you're going and i want to just lay the groundwork a little bit for where you're because it's important and use the context of what's happening in the world right now, right? Like everybody is, it seems like, first of all, everybody's stuck in their own echo chambers on social media, being fed stuff to scare them, whatever direction their echo chamber goes. And they're feeling, it seems like everyone I talk to is feeling such fear and disconnect and fear for the future and fear for themselves and fear around abundance and fear around love and I'm never going to and it will never happen and there's nowhere to go and the world is coming to an end and the economy is crashing and there isn't a good candidate for

president, whatever it is, right? Everybody's got this thing. And what I keep saying, not only to everyone who talks to me about this, but even to myself, it's a daily practice and like commitment. And I love this idea of planting the flag is just like planting the flag of, for me, I call it of optimism and love because i can't always access faith for me that's a more complicated issue but the step sister to faith or the stepping stone to faith if i can hold optimism then i can easily hold like much more easily hold faith but it's really about holding on to me and i wanted to get your take on this it's i feel like you're going in the direction of like how do we hold our state of love as the only true state oh you know what i mean i do know what you mean but i'm

about to jump off of a really crazy cliff if you want to put a parachute on with me we can go there i'm always willing to jump off i do not believe in hope nor optimism and i'm going to tell you why slow it down slow it down hope implies that something could go wrong yeah that makes sense I don't believe in wrong. An asteroid could come crashing. A tank could come through my wall right now and take me out. I wouldn't consider it wrong. I wouldn't like it.

My family wouldn't like it, but I wouldn't consider it wrong. Underline this word for us before we go to unpleasant, terrible, tragic. Wrong is a very, very strong word that is rooted in what you think should be and should not be, which is rooted in what you think reality is, what you think being here on Earth is. so when bad things happen which are happening bad qualified as bad difficult but i don't consider it bad for me i've been through hell but i don't consider it bad see i use different words it's not that i'm denying that it happens so me being a medium i was a kid shy kid born in harlem in

new york city raised in the bronx immigrant family and really was the shy sensitive kid growing up in a very very one may say sometimes could say a bad neighborhood right so you say well, woman, you had it rough. And I go, no, that was the courses I chose to be here on. Yeah. I've thought about that a lot. So you're saying that we choose this. And when these things happen to us, that some might qualify as bad or tragic, that what? Okay. I say, let's slow it down. When I say choose, I'm fully aware that what I'm saying is a belief. So first I come from, we don't know. We could be, you see these hairs on my arm. We It could be some microscopic, our entire galaxy could be in some-

Horton, here's a who? There's a giant Horton above us. Yeah. Well, if you look to ancient Vedic, if you go to India and listen to ancient Vedic scripture, you are coming out of the belly of Brahma in this fountain. And so maybe all these planets are cells in the body. So you think it's a planet, but they're actually cells in the bloodstream of a much larger being. You do not know.

No, we have no idea. Okay. So if you don't know, let's start off, we don't know, and maybe we are never going to know. So what I'm talking about is, can you find a way to navigate through your perceived understanding of this world as chaos in a peaceful way that actually is not just leaving you at ground zero, which is peaceful, but the vibration, which is higher than peace. Right.

And I'm going to tell you what it is. It is celebration. I would rather have 7 billion people on earth celebrating together than even meditating together. That's like number two, number one would be celebrating together. Okay. Because in the end, if your meditation isn't leading you to celebrate your life, then it's just an oxygen mask. And that's okay for a while, but I don't want to wear an oxygen mask the rest of my life. It should just be like, I'm brushing my teeth. My meditation is like, I'm brushing my teeth. I don't base my day around it's emotional. Yeah, no, it's part of my tool. Then I,

then I meditate my life, right? I'm meditating my actions. I've had horrible tragedies and dramas happen to me too. And I 100% can say my personal truth, belief, whatever you call it. I would not argue this is the truth. Cause like you said, how the hell do I know? But my truth is I signed up first of all i designed this life yeah yeah well if you don't pick that then what is the alternative you're picking you live in a random universe yeah where the only the lucky survive so now we're going to okay so you really actually believe in luck at your core belief yeah which i don't i mean okay so great gratitude and this idea of i'm very fortunate doesn't mean that you're lucky we do confuse the words fortune and luck right yeah so if we choose because this is really hard

i get it but i'm just telling you you know this because you're out there this is really hard for people to get so i want to drill down into this and to and to own and to be okay yes let's do it that i you know they'll say what you're saying that when kids are sexually molested and abused and of course they always go there they always go there right and they say how can you they're asking for it they signed up for this how could you say that or yeah let's slice into it then so let's go you got to get past the triggers of it because if you're really wanting to make a change you have to cut into an area at least at this point certainly in our the way we work on the body is we have to go in and we have to not be afraid the surgeon cannot be afraid of the blood

no you have to go in she can't have a queasy stomach she has to be able to open it up so if we're going to open this discussion, if you really want to know why bad things happen to good people, I think I'm a good person. I have been through massive amount of pain, lost my mother, lost my father, lost my best friend, all at a very tragically, it was, I was a shy kid who had mediumistic tendencies. I had psychic experiences as a kid. And even I, who connect people to those on the other side, I couldn't heal it. Okay. I couldn't understand it. But as I started to dig deeper, I had to find something that was going to work. Not we're not.

You have to really say, well, what is truth? Right. You're here to navigate. You're navigating in this world, aren't you? Everything is what you're learning. There's nothing that you know how to do that someone didn't teach you, including how to turn on this device, including how to put on your clothes, including how to brush your teeth.

Someone taught you. Yeah, that's true. Okay. Even how to translate your ideas into reality. So we learn. So the old thing about the answers are inside of you. Well, no. And yes. Yes. We are here to be with each other and to lead each other into that, teach each other things. So if you really want to take this in first, we have to say, do you really want to figure it out? Now I'm not saying you're going to dance on the table with joy from this belief, I'm saying is that you're going to have a different level of coherence and you're going to take away some of the things that really bring you rage

inside, which is the terrible things, the awful, painful things that happen to people in the world. You've had things happen, viewer who's watching, I have, Laura has had. So then people start to compare, but what about this? And then you have people stand up. I have clients who have been through what I would never want to go through. I've worked with them as a shaman. And let me tell you, we talk about forgiveness. I've had people who I've worked with over the last 20 years who have come through what I would consider some of the worst things that have happened to people. And I have heard them say, I found my freedom because I know why that experience is part of my path here because I'm here to be something. I'm here to be free. See, I wasn't going to say

a job. I'm here to find a deeper level of freedom as a soul. I'm here to connect to what I consider the source, the nameless, formless source of all creation, spirit, oneness, whatever you call it, whatever you like. Right. So I've experienced that personally. So again, I'm going to talk to you about tales from the mountains that I've crossed in the rivers I've swam through and the people that I've met. And this is what I've seen. And we're watching the internet. So we say social media, all the negativity.

Okay, well, there's tremendous positivity on social media. Tremendous. Here's the thing though. We'll send it to you and you're looking for it and you're liking it, which is what I do. I always say, if you want to know what you're manifesting in life, look at your Explorer page.

And if it's all hell and damnation and angry stuff, that's probably what you're spending time looking at and clicking on and your eyeballs are moving over and the algorithm is tracking you. If they're kittens and babies and rainbows like my Explorer page, that's probably where you want to focus. But you know something, Laura?

Yeah, I agree. But look at it this way, guys. You're all watching this. Like, let's say that you see a video. There is a guy who is jumping out of a plane in a wheelchair while with no legs and he is playing the guitar and jumps and he does a flip on the wheelchair

and he lands safely. You'd be like, holy shit, wow, amazing. And guess what'll happen? If a week later, somebody sends that video to you, all you're going to do is say, yeah, I saw it, pretty awesome. Really? And then two weeks, it's going to get old.

And in three weeks, here's how we know. Because you saw these kind of amazing videos even 10 years ago, nine and eight and seven and six years ago. Now you've seen 10,000 of these videos. When you and I were growing up, I assume you're Gen X. Yeah.

When you and I were growing up, we had, you know, there's five channels or whatever. And we just had to see one inspirational thing. Yeah. And we held it for ages. I built my whole life on like three scenes and three movies. Okay. Okay. I built my entire life on three scenes and three movies and I'm here.

Okay. So here we go. Right. We're moving forward in this thing called life. And we have my wife and I have four girls, different ages. And what we see is that if there's so much inspiration, there's so much talent, there's so much creativity, more than ever. And we're scrolling, we see 10,000 positive things. now we're going to get into the conversation about human nature but we tend to focus on that's which is disgusting and dark and and so what makes us mad and here's why we tend to get more activated when things make us mad is because it's a very quick sense of fuels fuel source anger

it's a very quick fuel source and we almost get addicted to it right and sadness is really just it's heroin, right? It just, it just takes you down and makes you not want to do anything. So how do we shift that? Do we have to stop all of these things that we consider depressing or inciting anger in us or leads me into this next chapter? You ready? I'm ready. Do you remember some years ago, there was a book called the secret messages from water. Yes. Matsuri Moto. I'm obsessed with him and wrote all about him. Yes. Oh, did you? Okay. I'm going to add something to his wonderful work. I'm going to bring a part two.

You ready? Yeah. Okay. So Dr. Emoto, Japanese scientist and doctor, created an experiment where he believed that water was basically programmable. That water was, you could program it with your thoughts and your emotions by either singing to it, yelling at it, and even writing on a bottle of water, things like, I hate you, or I want to kill you, or something violent on it, and that it would change the structure

of the water. So what he would do is he would have monks chanting over water. He wanted to know, does holy water really have healing properties? What is it about it? He takes water that had good things said to it, and he froze it. And then when he looked at the structure under the microscope, there was these beautiful symmetrical patterns, almost like butterfly wings in different, different myriad of shapes and form. Remember, guys, for 99% water while he's telling you this. Thank you.

And 1% Cap'n Crunch, like me. so then we he started doing like negative things right yelling at the water and then the crystalline structures were kind of deformed and not very not beautiful right he would even write on a piece of tape i hate you and put it on the flask or the beaker whatever it is and then it would also turn out that the water could read the intentions of that statement all right so people We're like, well, this is how we screw up our kids. This is how we screw up ourselves. This is the internal dialogue.

We're programming ourselves. Ourselves are made of water. Logic, logic, logic, logic, airtight. Nope. I'm slipping my hand through it. I got something more to show you. Here's where the flaw is in that entire experiment. Balance.

Let's take, he wrote, I hate you. You go, those words are full of hate, full of negative energy, negative emotion. Okay. But if I'm your good friend and I'm joking, let's just, we're playing and we're having a conversation. i hate you guess what how that translate to yourselves i love you yeah so it's how you hold the words that are said no it's how the it's up to the receiver right how you're holding the words

that were said to you right to you so it's not what the other person is holding in intent it's for example somebody could come up to a person oh let's say it's me or you somebody could come up to me and keep coming up to me and going, you're not Indian. You're not Indian. You're not Indian. You're not Indian. Your parents aren't Indian. Your parents are, you could get 10,000 people to come up to me and say that you can also come up to me and have them come up to me and say, you don't like heavy metal. You don't like heavy metal. You don't like heavy metal. Heavy metal sucks. Heavy metal sucks. It could be, you could get 10, you'd get 3 billion people in the world to line up and tell me that you'd think it's going to change anything. It's not because how

I receive it is, you just haven't heard the right bands. Or I take it as, yeah, it's just like Teflon. It goes off of me. Or if someone says to me, and we need to try this on you, we all know, look, when we have an argument, when someone's upset with us, it is not that they're saying, even if they're saying you're an asshole, they're not really saying you're an asshole. What they're saying is you hurt me. And what you hurt me means is I have a trigger in this area where I don't understand what was going on right and what you're talking about is not taking you know we have a choice over whether we take things personally or not or how we let them land or whether we let them land let's call it the consciousness of the receiver was not taken into consideration in

that experiment because speaking of heavy metal he played classical music for the water and it was a beautiful beautiful symmetrical sacred geometrical pattern he played punk rock and it was distorted but guess what punk rock heavy metal hard rock saved a lot of lives in high school there was even a study do you know there was a psychiatric study interestingly enough you know who grew up the happiest out of the cliques in high school and it was the metalheads really maybe because they were getting out all their anger thank you you got it of course you're gonna get it laura of course it was that because they already were like you don't accept me and i don't give a damn right Yeah, fuck you. I don't give a damn if you don't accept me. And so they got that out of the way. But pop music was is all about what's trendy, what's cool. And am I wearing this the right way? And then that becomes like me or not, or what?

Of course. Okay. So where we need to upgrade that initial fantastic, wonderful Dr. Emoto, we love you for that because I think he would appreciate what we're saying. Honestly, he brought us to this place to be able to discover this is that the consciousness of the receiver. That means is that when you say this world is crazy, this world sucks, then you have to understand what's going on. Right. Well, this is one of the things I want to ask you, but we're going to go off another cliff, which I want to go off, but I just want to finish jumping off this one first, which is back to the question of hope and optimism. Hope, I totally get what you're saying. Yeah. So optimism. Optimism, it's the flip side. It's just saying that I hope things

work out. That's being optimistic. It's going to work out. It's going to work out. The way I hold optimism is I may not, like faith is in believing in something you can't prove, right? To me, optimism is I like, I'm not for some reason today in general, whenever I'm struggling to hold on to faith, which to me, like tapped in and tuned into spirit, I'm just like struggling. Right. And if I'm in that space, what I have found is if I can just hold optimism, like I may not know why my computer is crashing right now. And the dog just, you know, came into contact with rat poison and this thing and that, you know, and everything seems like it's chaotic right now. And I could use, and this could be on a micro level, like I'm talking about, or in the world,

and I could choose to join that reality and see it as against me and see it as my day sucks and see this as the new direction my life is going. Or I can just remain optimistic that I may not quite understand the purpose of this or how this serves me or why this is happening, but the truth will be revealed and i can feel optimistic that everything will come back to love and maybe that's also faith but you tell me what well i just want to take a moment to go wow about everything that we're talking about because who knew this is where we're gonna go today who knew out there that this is what was gonna go down this is like an amazing this is like wrestlemania you know 100 right now a lot of sparks flying through the air. Okay. If an alien were to suddenly appear in your bedroom

and make friends with you and say, I'm not from this planet, clearly, which I would totally do, by the way, I would make, yeah, of course you would. And they say, well, I want you to show me something very beautiful on your planet. What's the most beautiful thing that humans have? And we can go there. No one will see us. Well, I'll make you invisible play along okay so the alien makes us both invisible and we go to a delivery room in a hospital and there's the mother there are the doctors and the aliens looking around oh what's going to happen here's what the alien sees the alien sees let's say that the alien on their planet the alien just appears out of thin air that's how they're born they just appear out

thin air there's no birth there's no mom or whatever they just appear out thin air now we're the delivery room and he sees a c-section about to take place yeah so he sees sharp metal instruments harsh lighting people with masks and caps and gowns and very very minimalistic room he feels empathically there's a lot of tension in this room a lot of worry a lot of intense focus sphere also going on here and now the alien is feeling all this looking at this physical environment. And then he sees the doctor cut that slice across the abdomen, take out some of the woman's guts and places them on her chest, which is what happens in a C-section. I've watched it myself. I've been in the room. All the fluids are everywhere. And pulls out this thing.

Pulls out this thing. Beautiful. The alien would scream and go, get me the hell out of here. I thought you were going to take me the most beautiful thing on your planet. We say, this is the most beautiful thing on our planet. That alien would leave and never come back. you wouldn't need to have senate hearings with all the alien disclosure right now because they'd never come back come yeah but the alien would be completely wrong in fact the alien would be reading the entire situation incorrectly the intense focus is based on love the worry is based on love the fear is even based on the love that one has for their existence yeah so everything

is based on love that's happening the technology that's being used so we're able to do that was from minds that cared enough to make this possible to have a c-section so how do we know what we're seeing isn't this rebirth happening we're in the middle of it embryos are not cute at two three months oh it definitely feels like we're going through a birth canal to me it does it feels like we're going through a birth canal some people are like this holding on to the walls i don't want to go out there i know and that's where i feel like a lot of the pain that people are experiencing is is in the resistance and i know this is something that you speak about a lot so and also guys riz is going to go into a channel for us too and i also have some medium questions

for you so oh you do okay great let's let me talk about before we write we're going to go right into it but you said something that just sparked right i wanted yeah i had one more question but you go ahead what came up for you because you said the word the birth canal right the word canal is the same has the same root as the word channel the english channel the suez canal what are these what is a canal what is a channel when it's canal as we're talking geographically or architecturally it is an opening that is made through the land to allow water to pass through and flow through to drop off goods and services and keep going that's what it can the english channel the suez canal is. So when we are channeling what I do as a psychic medium channeler, I am connecting to

what people have been referring to since time immemorial, whether you call them angels, whether you call them ancestors, whether you call it the universe, or you call them spirit guides, which is what I call them. These have been referenced throughout, not just the so-called major religions, but in tribal cultures as well, that we are not alone, that there are guiding forces with us now to go into when we're speaking about so-called metaphysical things remember i said metaphysical is just your expanded understanding of the physical i like that better than woo-woo which seems derogatory it's very derogatory why don't we call religion woo-woo i mean you can't what are you gonna how are you gonna prove any of that call it if we don't call

if it's something that most mainstream people don't i mean to me this is my life i'm in this all the time now you're in expanded consciousness okay expanded consciousness this is expanded consciousness right so very quickly metaphysical if your dog is in the room and you blow a dog whistle you can't hear it that doesn't make it metaphysical no well it might be metaphysical to me but it's not to the dog but it doesn't make it metaphysical because logically you know the dog hears it yes that's you believe the dog is hearing it yeah well why do you believe the dog is hearing it but you don't believe a psychic who's hearing something i believe it but i know i know but you know what i'm saying i think we all have these abilities we just haven't cultivated them we

haven't been forced through our traumatic childhoods to cultivate them in order to stay safe or it's it wasn't in our dna to kind of be born with those abilities and so we may not get to the same level as an olympic athlete would get just don't support it laura we just don't support it but we barely support drawing a picture anymore we don't even have money we don't put money into arts program so i mean what are we talking about we're going to go into now what is your spiritual intelligence yeah intelligence every single word i almost want to stop and say well what do you mean by spiritual what do you mean by intelligence what do you mean by frequency the dog is hearing the frequency that is at a higher level that your ears can hear channelers uh there are some famous

channelers if you guys don't know channelers are people who go into a deep trance state trance like a trance meditation almost like going to sleep and during that time they allow these wise and fully enlightened teachers to come through them they use their their body they use their voice and they speak and so you have how many you have a bunch right you have yeah i'm a revolving door I know you have some that you come through regularly, but you also have like a whole council. Yeah, you can call them a council. So they come through.

They've been around me, I guess, the messages that I've gotten over the years. When I started having really deep meditative experiences, when I started having what one would call a transcendental experience, I began to feel the presence. And then it got stronger and stronger. That's my experience. I saw that everyone I ever met had some energy of intelligence that was very good-willed and a teacher kind of energy, which I call spirit guides, around them. Then it grew and grew and grew. My receptivity, my sensitivity grew, which is your strength, isn't it? The more sensitive

you become as an artist, the better your art is going to be. The more sensitive you become as anything, as a chef, the better your meals are going to be. So sensitivity, bottom line is sensitivity is your true power you just have to understand how to use it right and you were by the way guys you resisted this for almost a decade as it was yeah i was singing in a band in a heavy metal band yeah well i know are you surprised looking at me i was the first channeler who was wear a mohawk and wear an eyeliner and and and people were like how can you be spiritual and be that way i go how could you not i actually see it as the opposite i'm about living authentically to yourself and full self-expression, not about judgments about, you know, in fact,

even when I first entered into, when I brought my gifts into what people call the new age or the psychic community in the beginning, they were a little bit like, oh, he's, he's Indian. He's hopefully they thought I was going to speak with an Indian accent. In fact, if I probably did an Indian accent, I would be 10 times more popular than I was at the time because people listen, people, a lot of the time people listen with their eyes. I know.

Well, that's what I love about a podcast is that they can watch this, but a lot of people just listen, which I think is so cool. Do whatever you like. The point is that even if you don't believe in spirit guides, if you hear a person channeling and this information, are you allowing it to activate you? Are you allowing it to organize your thoughts in a different manner that provides you with some more freedom? And I want to say more sobriety.

So you're not drunk with pain that you have legitimately been suffering through. Now, why do I say drunk with the pain? Because when the pain gets to the point where you're not actually walking straight internally and you're having trouble navigating, that's the whole cliche of being inebriated. I feel drunk with pain right now. Yeah. Okay. Here's the thing. Sometimes there's a part of being drunk that everybody likes. Yeah. That's why we do it. So I go, do you really not want to be drunk? If you really don't want to be drunk, you'd have to kind of really understand that there's another way to be and another way to feel that you would

never have to turn away from that it feels better for you. So as a medium, I would say this to you is that I do a lot of things where people will lose a family member and I'll sometimes I'll go to their house. Most of my readings are on the phone, but if I know the person I'll go to their house and I'll read the whole family. And I was saying this, this is just literally three weeks ago. I went to someone's place and in the middle of it, the grandmother had passed away. The daughter was there. The grandkids were there and they're all in the kitchen. They were as young as 14 years old and the grandmother was coming through and I was giving them each, Oh, and who's the one who's going to nursing school? Oh my God, that's me. And it's like, well, she's saying it's

going to be good. And they've been giving the messages. And I stopped for a moment because they were, their eyes were starting to brighten. And I could tell that part of them wanted to feel bad. Like how could they be feeling good at this moment? And I said, having a good mediumship reading is like, it's one of the most painful, happy experiences. One of the most painful, good experiences. Yeah. And I want to go there too. And I also want to ask you guys, because most of my peeps here are used to this and are open to this and have already had their eyes open to the fact, you know, this isn't bull, but even if you're not convinced just for the rest of this conversation, because I know I can feel we're going to go to some interesting places,

just try on suspending disbelief. Just be curious. Yeah. I mean, I'm that way when it comes to things. I mean, that's just how I choose to live. It's just better to be that way. You'll stay younger. Yeah. Most of us have no idea how to move through loss. There's no roadmap to follow when you're trying to navigate grief. And I realized this when I lost my son three years ago. As a therapist who understood grief, a whole new level of pain opened up to me when I lost my 16-year-old son. And since then, I have been building resources that have allowed me to navigate through loss, not only in a healthy way, but in a way that has transformed me for the better. We can move through the most terrible loss with grace. And that's why I have created

the course, Good Grief, Healing from Loss with Love. You can find it on my website, drlauraberman.com, right there on the homepage, as well as free resources letting you know how to support others who are going through loss. None of us has to do this alone. So should we start with channeling or should we start with mediumship? Let's start with mediumship. What do you mean? You want to questions about it? You want me to read you? Is that what you're saying? Oh, sure. Where do you want to start? I don't know. I'm always curious. I mean, this piece has been read a bit over the past three years, but a lot of people die, both my parents, other people that are really important to me.

But the biggest loss was my 16-year-old son, Sammy, three years ago. Oh, okay. And so that's what kind of put me on a crazy trajectory. How old was he when he passed? 16. 16? Yeah. What's his first name?

Sammy. Do you want me to see if I get a message? Hey, yeah. Okay. I'm going to put it like here in my mind on the chalkboard. And then who else? Oh, God, there's so many. Well, the first names are fine.

All right. So there's Linda, who's my mom, who I'm starting to connect with again after 11 years. My dad, Erwin. Did one of these people's passing transitioning anniversary, is it like around now coming up or just passed? Well, a couple. My one person, my husband's father was son yesterday. Thank you. that's the one you're talking about that's the one i'm talking about first and then i'm going

to go to the sun because i feel that as well well sunday was yesterday so obviously but i still feel it's before today yeah in the last two weeks the sun it is february 7th i'm connecting i'm connecting thank you you said your husband's dad is that what you said your father-in-law that's what you said yeah do you guys have a chess set yes we do yeah he's the first thing He's talking about his chess set. Does he actually play the game or is like set up, but he never played? Well, that's interesting. So I don't know whether you're talking about my father-in-law or my son, but my son and

dad used to play chess all the time. That was one of the ways they connected. And that's what this, so your son and his dad. No. Well, they may have played chess too. My son and my husband played chess all the time. Thank you. Because now I'm going to your son then.

Thank you. Because the first thing is the chess set is being brought up. There was always a chess set on the dining room table. Thank you. That's why I said it's set up, but not played. Thank you. So your son, that's the first thing he's coming through with. You said he passed it in an accident?

Yeah, well, it was fentanyl poisoning. So he did not mean to take what he took. He's saying, okay, all right. Well, he's being philosophical. He just said that was no accidents. So he's being philosophical by saying there are no accidents. Got it. Okay.

Got you. Wonderful. The chess is important for your husband to still play. That's the first message I'm going to give. and it's like your son passes through and sees the chest like it's there but not being played do you understand hasn't been played since he died and the chess set is no longer set up well he needs to set it up and he needs to play and he needs to play with somebody and you can play you just put it out it is putting that away it's like never playing a song again i mean after

a while you do have to play you said it's been a few years now right years yeah i don't know if he's played with and i don't think he has played okay thank you is there someone like connected to your son with a name like james or jameson this name sir jameson trying to think so it's like jamie jameson but i don't want to say james i want to say it's like longer so that would be other jane i can think of okay that name is coming up also march coming up is to put a big heart around it so that's marking somebody's birthday or anniversary is the march also november november and march so hard around november hard around march those are usually anniversaries or birthdays what's your husband's first name sam oh so he's a junior sam was a junior sort of although they

didn't have just exactly the same name but sammy was sam the little one was called sammy and sam so did sam played piano or something because there's music coming through on this side Yeah. We were just talking about that today. Actually, he's never played music. Sammy's brother, our other son. Yeah. But piano? My grandfather. There's piano from the other side being played. My grandfather is the only one. And he's on the other side that plays piano. That's my mom. But he has to be on the other side. He's crossed over, correct? He's on the other side. Yeah. Okay. He's coming through. Is there a Lewis connected to this family? Yes. That is my great grandfather. Thank you. He's also coming through?

His piano player's father was Lewis. Thank you. They're together. Aw. I never even knew my great-grandfather. Well, look at it this way. If you died tomorrow, you'd still be looking after your great-great-great-great-grandkids. There'll be some psychic giving a reading in like 150 years going,

there's a Laura coming through. And that kid will be like, I don't know any Laura. Oh, that was my great-great-grandmother. And you'd be like, you rotten kid. You know, I'm looking after you. Yeah, exactly. Okay, thank you. I want to have this energy.

Well, he said his name. Thank you. Okay. You have other kids, right? Okay. How many other kids? Two other kids. Two other kids.

Has one of these kids ever wanted to go to, I know, I say things that are out there. That's just what I am. I don't know why Iceland is coming up for me. My oldest wants to go to Iceland. Thank you. They're all saying, yes, go. And Sammy's saying, go. are you worried about him going to Iceland

no I don't think so but he isn't he's just he's been in a really bad place and I think he's just now starting he's really into conservation and trekking and so listen Sammy's gonna be like his Sammy his brother is

going to be his Sherpa just let him know that okay he's got his you know parka on he's gonna be that brother's I want to say his travel companion, his travel agent as well, and his Sherpa. Those are the words I'm using.

And he said those words specifically. Well, part of the funny thing about that is I used to complain to him when he was little and made me carry everything. I would say I was his Sherpa. He's using the word. I have not said the word Sherpa probably in 30 years myself. I called my, I'm your Sherpa. Okay, give me something else.

That's a message for you about the Sherpa. Mom. Yeah. I don't, let me tell you something. And my wife knows this. No word out of my mouth is random when I do a reading. Yeah. I believe not a word.

And let me tell you people out there about mediumship readings. I just want to say when you get a medium mediumship reading, there needs to be specific information like that. I'm giving information. And look, Laura, you're a known personality. Probably people know about this, obviously, but they don't know these things I'm saying. Right.

as long as you confirm that these are not things that anybody can ever know about no and it's important when you get a mediumship reading that the medium does this is a lot of people going around saying i'm a medium like unless you have specific information right exactly not as it doesn't change you the same way it's worth like an innumerable amount of therapy sessions when someone goes he's telling his brother about iceland and then the brother's like are you freaking kidding me that means he's actually around me and it's so that's the thing it's and this is why i involve mediumship with mediums i trust and don't think i'm not gonna get you up i involve mediumship in every event i do i do a ton around with grieving mamas specifically

because i'm so glad i'm always happy to help and i'm here i always involve in all of my events and my meet, like I, in the retreat I'm doing in April, I always involve a really trusted, legit medium because when you get a reading, you know, where you're getting this confirmation that there is actual communication, it's like your universe starts to open and I watch it happen kind of like what you were describing in those spaces. It's like all of a sudden. So my greatest intention, even with this retreat I have coming up in addition to, you know, lighting the path to healing and showing them things that help and exposing them to lots of different resources is helping them understand that the relationship doesn't end, doesn't thank you.

It's just a physical relationship that's ended now develop the spiritual relationship. Yes. But that's what I want to ask you, unless he's Sammy wants to say more or anyone else wants to say more. Yeah, I am just, you know, I had to get through the original trauma, the, you know, I'm getting through the layers, right. of grief. And I have felt his presence and connected with him and had lucid dreams with him and moments with him. And I feel as he's always on my right side and all of that, but I

am just that. And he gives me all kinds of signs, but I am just now recently finally feeling like I am ready in a way that for some reason I've had resistance to before now to have a two-way relationship with him or he is not my 16 year old son. Right. Right. Okay. Ancient ageless soul that he's always been, but learning to have this relationship with him where we are in, you know, like that kind of connection. In my experience as a medium, when we cross over, we tend to lose some faster than others but we tend to lose the so-called density or negative characteristics i've had people who've come through and i've given a message like i'm giving and i'll say oh so and so is talking about how beautiful love is and how we're all one and they're like oh he

was an asshole he was the biggest racist are you i mean that can't be him and i go but that's what he is now yeah because we leave our ego and our personality and yeah we do we suddenly get we don't know every secret of the universe but what we do get is something removed from our center of our being which is that this aching aching feeling that we're alone or that we're not eternal or that we'll all be separated from the ones that we love this is i wouldn't say the biggest ball and chain on it i said when that's removed it becomes whoa i'm i think i feel free and now i'm free to actually learn without all of these pre-programmed i would say counterproductive beliefs that are running in that subconscious right it's the subconscious that runs the show yeah for all

of us and so we get released from that when we're no longer in our bodies and i'm always you can't be created or destroyed it just changes form so that's why people are doing people are doing psilocybin therapy now this is why it's going to change the face of wellness it has been for thousands of years in the tribes the reason is is that first of all neurologists are never going to figure out how it's working completely that's why we have the word magic in front of that word magic right management there's a reason and i don't want anyone to figure it out yes you can go well it's working on the frontal lobe which we can't get antidepressants to work on now it's causing that and how does it go straight there you go you're never going to know it's a

consciousness, my definition of that plant medicine of psilocybin is it is a hyper organic trans-dimensional communication device. Wow. Yeah. From source. And so hyper organic trans-dimensional communication device from source. Yeah. And so when you're on it and I've never, I mean, I've, I've never done a, I will be in college. I tried it. I, you know, that kind of stuff. But I wanted to wait because truthfully, and I'm open about this, I got on antidepressants when he died. And so I wanted to be off all medications before I did any kind of plant medicine journey. But I'm actually really interested in doing a very conscious, guided one that is intentional. I'm not talking about pretending you're woke by going to some

party i mean you can do that but don't pretend that it's some right no it's not at all but i can imagine and my understanding of it even because i've sent lots of people to even before it was legal to therapists in states where it was legal you know people who have really intractable depression or or yes anxiety or loss and the way and i'm just checking this out with you because what i came to understand vicariously through them because i wasn't having that experience that they were having, although I've had it in my own ways, is that you basically get the benefits of dying, of leaving your body without having to die. So you suddenly can realize- I call those the best case scenarios.

Okay, okay. You go, that's the best? Oh, that's horrible. No, that's the best. That's a good case scenario in a way, even though you may be seeing some hard truths. When you have a journey, we call them journeys. If you have a journey where for five hours you are screaming into a pillow and crying and you're begging for it to stop, that does not make that a bad experience. In fact, that was probably really good because we had to get out all this concrete thick layer that has been on your chest for a long time.

And it took a brave shaman to be able to go into those depths and that darkness with you and cut through all of that in a safe environment. Yeah. But you are supported and held. And yes, yes, you are. we it's not just after yeah yeah it's a that's like we could do a whole literally a whole show about that but i want to talk about channeling again let's talk about channeling now you got a taste of mediumship we talked about mushrooms now we talked about it i like that where's where's

that brooklyn queens come out of you that's interesting i just it was like a past life i don't know it's just a persona i have she likes that's really good all right so we're going to get into channeling now okay very quickly guys right so channeling i earlier i said about the words canal and channel then we okay so your spirit guides they just like us communicate through frequencies some of these frequencies they are not heard by these ears they're heard by what i call the third ear we have the third eye well we have a third ear as well and a a channeler is able to not first, first just pick up on that frequency and then go into a trance state, which is like almost like controlled narcolepsy almost. It's the only way I can

describe it. And I say like right now I'm driving my car called Riz, right? When I channel, it's like I take a nap in the backseat and let somebody else drive. I'm still in the car in the backseat, but I'm asleep. And do you remember what you say? Well, I never remember a hundred percent of what I say? I've done rooms where everyone gets a message, right? But the channeling is really a wisdom teaching, I want to say experience. So you're connecting dots. It's not just about people getting, well, what's going to happen with my house or my job, or that's more psychic channeling. Should I ask you questions when you're in channel? You can ask anything about reality. You can ask anything about the nature of our psyches. You can ask about, yeah, you can ask

about a lot of anything. I'm really curious what would happen if I don't ask anything. Red Eagle will just keep talking. So when I entered into that state, Red Eagle was one of my guides who has literally channeled books through me. I've gone into TransState, started channeling, recorded all of it, and literally it's in final edit. Every single chapter is in final edit. We never have to touch it and we just print it. So that's a great way. You know, when I was in fifth grade in the Bronx and my teachers caught me napping. They're like, Mr. Mirza, you can't. You're

never going to make a living going to sleep. Little did they know you were just moving out of the way. Exactly. Watch all these kids now going to tell their parents, I'm just channeling. Just channeling. I'm not sleeping. So Red Eagle, let's talk about

Red Eagle. Red Eagle is a spirit guide, very wise, very strong. I compare him to It's like talking to a 10,000-year-old tree. Is he Native American? Well, you don't have an ethnicity on the other side. You're made of light. You have had many ethnicities.

He's looked like you. He's looked like me. He's looked like a young Asian female. He's shown me he's incarnated in many forms, but he always makes a joke that he likes his red eagle jacket. He likes to come in the form where he felt fully expressed as a being. And this way you get two Indians for the price of one. he has said that joke and i have to say it because it's i have to credit him it's worked

for 20 years so i gotta say it again all right anytime he's always hanging around it's not hard for me to go into it but i kind of just not out so we're literally like uh how do we know when it's finished do i end or he says we're done i don't know he does these dramatic pauses i don't think he's meaning to be dramatic he just is dramatic uh he's powerful do i say okay riz you can come back you can just you can thank him i mean if we have a time limit i think he necessarily have a time limit but i just all right and i've never interviewed someone in channel before so i just want to know the protocol he answers talks he's very conversational it's not like talking to a robot or something he's as animated as me i'm excited to meet him all right

let's go for it all right i'm just going to go for usually i have everybody join in but i think let's just go i kind of just nod out and then he comes in he has a different way of being his voice changes mannerisms that's what channeling is guys so let's see what happens okay i'll see okay hey hello hello nice to meet you everybody talking about it is so chaotic there is the worst of times happening now why the planet isn't it's not going to live it's not going to be around everybody's fighting what is going to happen the computer is going to take over

we don't know who anybody is anymore everybody wanting to say they are something different a lot of people have a lot of problems with this some do not you say what about the rules somebody may tell you you are not talking proper English

or proper Chinese or proper Russian as if your language has to stay static it has to stay the same all the time If language is how you're expressing yourself, and you're constantly evolving, and you are exploring, educating, growing, expanding, then the frequencies of your communication will change, and they will form new words. How did the language start anyway? That's a good point. It was the utterance from within it is that you might call it the light comes out of the darkness.

What is dark? What is light? You say it's a battle between light and dark. but the womb is dark it is physically dark in the womb and you'll come out of it everything come out of it so you're saying that neither light nor dark is good or bad and what do we do to hold that in the middle of everybody having this story of all the chaos or do you don't hold to nothing you don't hold to nothing you surrender to something if you're holding it is an act a surrender. That is

the complete relinquishing of all exodus. What you see in nature, what you see in babies, what you see in animals. What does these three things have in common? Nature, babies, animals. They are fully surrendered to themselves. They are not

being nothing that they are not. They are being fully expressed. And that is why they are irresistible. No one can resist nature in its beauty, nor animals in their beauty, nor a baby in its beauty and that is because you may call it the the honesty authenticity you may call it that so when we're faced with these things around us that seem chaotic you're saying that that what

we should hope what we should try to do is surrender you don't know what to surrender to that is the problem so what where everybody is that you are not you cannot even surrender to the word surrender well tell me tell us what it looks like because i somebody says you have been dragging this word through the mud in your schools you say surrender that is for the army who gives up for the team who gives up you have the word surrender programmed into the subconscious that it means something negative that you have given up yeah yeah yeah yet how are you going to feel if somebody comes to embrace you do you not surrender to the embrace do you not surrender to the music if you want to actually dance you cannot consciously do it you

may have two people who want to learn how to do a dance let us say is the salsa dance somebody study it they write on the paper put your left foot here move this way to the side they have the pattern of the dance that is called salsa yes then they do it the music play and they do all the patterns. Does that mean they're dancing salsa? You watch another person who maybe grew up in that culture who maybe is even a little bit tipsy. Maybe they are not even doing the moves like the official moves of salsa, but they are dancing salsa, even if they are sloppy, because they are actually in the frequency, in the rhythm. They are surrendered to the essence, the soul of the music so are you saying it's giving up trying to control it's like a softening

and a release of control a release of control is far better than a person thinking they are out of control they believe that to surrender control means to be out of control not at all if you relax your grip on the steering wheel you have surrendered to a oneness with the car Or when you wanted to learn how to drive when you were young, you say, I know how to drive. You watch your father, mother, brother driving next to you. Say, I know. I put your foot on the gas, put your foot on the brake, look this way, left or right, turn the wheel.

I know how to drive. Give me a chance. But the moment you sit in that, you remember, you touch the pedal, the body moves very fast. You touch the brake, the body jerks back and forth. You don't know the spatial awareness. Yeah. You have to become, you have to project your awareness to the front left bumper, right front headlight, and in the back, and the sides, and the height of the vehicle. You have to expand your awareness into something larger to be able to drive safely, to be able to get where you want to go.

You said the body is the vehicle of the soul. So then that means you have to expand your awareness. What would happen? You have this six-lane highway. what would happen if you erased all of the dotted lines on the highway you would see a lot of chaos in the beginning wouldn't you in the beginning but after some time what would happen it would be fine wouldn't it because we find our way and we don't figure it out and we you are being too philosophical yeah what would happen simply straight that your spatial awareness starts

to see and understand the perspective and where you are in the highway you will now begin to have this understanding in your peripheral vision of where everybody belongs and everybody nobody wants to crash into each other today you will drive your car you drove it this morning you'll get into the intersection to make a left other cars are coming you are actually completely in trust that they're not going to slam into you why why are you not sure you may have a little fear but most are confident they are going to work they're entered the intersection the opposite lanes are going by you have to wait for those cars to pass for an opening to make your left you follow so far yeah yeah all right in that moment you could say boy a slip of the wheel this car could hit me

right in the front true and why are they not because they are also like you wanting to not have a crash so they are going to go straight if you disappear all the lines on the roads the lines would then again begin to appear in the person's mind because you have it in your nature to be aligned your nature is not to be misaligned right your nature is love how do you know because when you don't feel the love you feel off yes we do so are you saying that the chaos that so many are feeling in the world right now is because the lines of our the lines have been removed because we're stepping into something. The stage of removing the lines, you may say, what do you mean? Are you talking about physical borders? No, right now we're talking about mental.

You may call them judgments, beliefs, reactions to what you see as you're on the path, as you're on the road. You say, we need these rules. Yes. So lines are rules. You may call it that. So what will happen is as you begin to understand that there is a greater journey going on a greater journey what is the greater journey it is the never-ending journey of the soul you say whoa what does that mean when i am having to deal with crime or i see things i don't like i don't i want my guy to win i want my team to win i want this because they are the ones who care and these people they are ignorant well that is what they think about you yes then you will bang your drum harder and say yeah well they are wrong that is what makes them the problem yeah so that is

currently the state of evolution on the planet for a lot of people and what you are seeing now is that in this process of creation remember something what you value the most on this planet is creation how do you know two reasons number one when you are not creating that is usually when you start to feel dead i can agree with that number two your god you don't call her the doer the beer the seer the thinker you call her what the creator that means that you have attributed creation as the highest it is within you you value it yes so you come from that you come from love you are love how do you know again and again you notice that you always want more of that that is part of creation wanting more you say what is more what if i don't want more of course you do even if you

were to get rid of everything that you what they call monk who sold his ferrari yeah he'd do it because he want more he want less of this more of that but it is still more of something you say well, not me. I'm fine with what I have. We say, do you want it in an hour? How about tomorrow? You still want it? Then you want more of what you have. So it is always going to be that that word more has to do with the creative impulse. That is what you are. Your life is a constant creative conversation. Notice it from morning to night, even from night to morning. I think you're right. Most people don't recognize that we're doing that. You say, I want a big change.

Everybody talk Iowa. Big change requires a big change. What do you mean? A big change has to be where all the gears are rusted over and stuck, where there are cobwebs, where you say, that is the one thing I'm not going to change. Because I believe that stuff in the world is wrong. We say that stuff in the world is painful and unpleasant, but do not use the word wrong. that is like looking at an embryo and saying hey that does not look like a human that arm is wrong place should not look like that does not look like an arm that does not look like peace that does not

look like sanity that does not look like reason you're not understanding that it is a constant creation happening and at some point you will get into some frequency will align with you something you'll say oh now i got it now i like that one but be careful because the moment you say no i like that point if the person who is making that point rub you a little bit the wrong way you say i used to like them now you have the cancel culture yes what is that i wanted to ask you about cancel culture what is that about it is when you don't understand your sensitivity okay tell us more about that in the old days you have a guy like riz maybe misunderstood they say oh he's schizophrenic yeah yeah because you're hearing voices and hearing voices you're saying things are demonic

you know got to give him exorcism or something yeah yeah all right so i say well what does this all mean then what is the unknown i want to know the unknown then once i know the unknown once i know i'm eternal once i know it is all going to be okay once you know everything that is on your list that you want to know what you're going to do then you're going to be happy then we're going to see the magical being that you are so you are holding hostage the happy peaceful magical being inside of you right now because you're mad or you're sad about the world you're not going to come out and be that person because you're either mad about it or sad about it or you say what happened to you before what is happening to you now or what

you were afraid is going to happen to you in the future is now dictating your reality. So you're living a slave mentality now. Yes, you said it perfectly. That's what I'm seeing is that people are so overcome by fear that they're losing themselves. And I'll be honest, I don't get afraid of what's happening in the world. I start getting afraid of everyone abandoning themselves and their light and their magic because they're so mad or sad. I like want that to stop. But I think what you're saying is that

I just need to surrender to it and hold on to my magic. But if you are mad or sad, it's because you have made something wrong. Again, we will bring up the word wrong because this word is killing you people. Yeah, or yeah. And that's something that people will go more and more,

get more and more angry and more and more scared and start really harming each other. because of it and that I said the good old days I want to go back to the 70s the good old days you mean when they were beating you up in school for being different when you had so much racism so

much discrimination you were talking about those good old days they were good for some not for everyone no they were not take the good learn from the past one of the big problems is you tend to throw away the past conveniently you use

the past conveniently first it is the good old days then it is that is passe yeah so you have both you had good old days and you have what is passe then you say what is popular culture seems to be only the young will dictate the popular culture what is cool you know the young will dictate it well maybe but what is happening now is very quickly 14 and 15 year olds who are dictating you might call it the popular culture there are the 11 year olds watching waiting in the wings to call them yeah and so the 15 year old is getting a hint of this already saying whoa these 11 year olds are starting to say i am old i'm gonna be obsolete soon by the time they're 18 they're old now they are not the ones

setting the cutting edge popular culture that's like what i say to my kids i many people think I'm cool. Even if you don't, like you're saying, it used to be the good old days. Every generation has these trials and tribulations. And I've lived through a few generations now on this planet and I've seen it, but this one seems like a big one. And maybe I'm making that in my head and it's not as big, maybe because of social media, it seems bigger than it ever has before. It is bigger in the sense that it is your understanding. Now you come from a certain group of souls from your generation okay and what is that you can look into astrology you will say oh they're born when this the saturn was in this planet true there are cosmic seasons that affect

the people astrology is kind of a science how oh the moon controlled the water on the planet you said it you are made of water yes your brain is made of water you have the word lunatic lots of activity on the nights of the full moon so there are cosmic seasons just like you have spring winter summer fall they're even kind of what we call sub-seasons micro-seasons within the major seasons now that is on your planet you feel the heat of the sun and the cosmic rays from 93 million miles away and your sun is small in the galaxy the universe it is a tiny star now you have the moon affecting you the moon is very small compared to the earth what about jupiter what about the saturn plan is do they have some relevance when all of your ancestors were talking about this so you're

going to throw away the past there too but then you pick and choose the religion is 2 000 years old but that you're going to keep and then you're called you then you call the esoteric teachings the new age the new age the esoteric teachings were there before your religions they were we want to give you a little scenario okay many people have said to eris he's the channel and i talked through him this oh red eagle are you angry about what's happening to indigenous people we say you're all indigenous people to somewhere yeah that's what you're seeing you say all the people fighting over it different parts of the world you have one person's fighting for the territory one tribe versus another tribe it has happened in every part of the world let us give

you an example something to think about now you have lived through all these generations you have seen fighting in different parts of the planet where tribes were fighting for territory what you call ethnic groups fighting for a piece of soil correct yeah many places on the earth oh let us give you an example let us see here let us say group a is fighting group b group a say we're here first. Group B says we're here first. Then they fight. Somebody wins.

Let's say Group A wins. Right. Group B is gone. Now Group A has taken over. And they are living a thousand years goes by, 2,000, 10,000 years goes by. And one day

there is a rumble in the ground and the mountains start to open up and out from under the ground a race of humans come out they are neanderthal type people but they speak english let us say they come out and say hello everyone here who are you they say well it's our land they say no we have been here for two million years we have been watching you the last 50 000 years you said you have been here 50 000 nice job we have been here two million get out yeah out will group a adhere to the principle that they fought so proudly for against group b just 10,000

years ago when they said it was theirs and they are the rightful ones to this land is group a now suddenly going to say through the same logic that they have created will they bow their head and say you know you're right what's yours is yours when you're right you're right here you go so now the neanderthals take over 250 000 years of glorious time they got their land back imagine yeah one day shiny discs appear in the sky and they land out come very advanced looking creatures they say who are you they say what do you mean we're here from here we have been here forever They say, no, actually, you're not here forever. We made you six billion years ago.

And they click a little button. They show you the hologram to the Neanderthals. Say, we made you. See here, look. There's the evidence. Yeah, so glad you enjoyed your time here. Goodbye, get out. And it keeps going and going.

So we say to you, as you were learning about yourselves and your tendencies to fight over certain things. Believing that you are this body. Look in the mirror if you dare. Even now, you believe that you are this person. You so wholeheartedly believe in your ethnicity, in your religious backgrounds, in all of these ideas and customs that you hold dear

or hold onto your life for. You say, I am that. We will tell you, you are not. you're temporarily wearing the costume because when you get to the other side what you identify in your religion and your ethnicity does not exist

why would it? what sense would that make to have an ethnicity or a religion on the other side? so you will find this to be true you will have to wait till you leave this body or you can have an awakening

every day of your life now and see what makes sense to you appealing to your own logical spiritual self So you might as well surrender to oneness now You might as well surrender to the love and the magic that you are now Without waiting for your teams to win all the time Hey, you know, you had Super Bowl recently

We watch, we see everything Let us say you go to the Super Bowl And the person is watching their team lose They are so upset They have been a fan of this team for 20 years now this team is there in the super bowl they are pounding their fists they are very upset they are punching the table and you say to them lean over to them tap them on the shoulder say you upset they say of course what are you talking about of course i am upset they say why are you upset

they say my team losing are you blind we say all right and why you want to win you want to feel good right the person will say yes of course i want to feel good you say you want to feel good Because your team won, correct? They say, of course. Are you an idiot? Of course. That's why I want to feel good. My team will win.

I will feel good. We say, we can do it like that for you. You say, how? Root for the other team. Yeah. You will be celebrating later. So we're back to picking teams and needing to be right. No, you're big to choosing what feels good.

Yes. Yes. You're deciding you don't need to suffer and go down with the ship. Well, let us say, you say, well, that is impossible. You're never going to have somebody switch teams in the middle of the game. Or are you? Maybe there is one person in the 60,000 who decided in the middle of the game. I am done with this team.

That team pretty good, actually. I kind of like them now. I want to find that person. Would you rather be celebrating later? Yeah. Or would you rather be, you know, commiserating later? They're, oh, it was, what a terrible, oh, they cheated. Oh, it is all a setup.

Well, you can switch teams, but they cannot switch teams. You want to know why? Because they believe their team has to win, even if they go another 20 years. Why don't you ask that person, how long are you going to be with this team? Oh, yeah. Diehard fans, man. They say diehard. Oh, well, you will diehard because only one will make it.

now they are in the for the journey of winning and losing they say i'm in it with my team i have a loyalty to that city by the way most of the players on the team are not from that city that they were side note yeah so you see which of your illusions do you not want to burst hey by the way nobody from that team is from that city they don't care you pay them to go through the other city they will go right away yeah they don't have the loyalty themselves not at all they are hired guns like lawyers don't be afraid of a lawyer on the other side if you had gotten to him sooner he'd be on your side just pay them the money they will be on your side that's right so now you cannot get that person to switch so what is going to happen you're asking people to switch their beliefs

and just in their personal lives to how to have a better life. That is how dense, that is an example we give to you as to how dense it is when you try to tell someone, stop seeing so many things as wrong. We are not saying look to the positive.

You see, if you go there, you're going to mess up the whole thing. Because the moment you say positive, now you've attributed a whole nother set of moral rights and wrongs. That's true. Just go to,

you are watching creation You are involved, but you are not submerged in it. You are the creator of your own reality inside of you. There's an ecology inside of you. There are people sitting in the prisons who feel more free than some people watching here right now who are not in prison. Do you doubt it? They are fine. They are surrendered to that experience.

And so their body, even without healthy food, even without some of the things that you are enjoying that give you a holistic, happy lifestyle, they're sitting in the prison. Some of them, the body is not going to get sick. Why? They're surrendered. They are not at war with their experience. And that's what you mean by surrendered. Yeah, because you walk outside your door. First, you worry about the neighbor.

Then you worry about what happened at the red light. Then you worry about who is the president. Then you worry about the bill collectors. Then you worry about if you can trust this friend or that friend or your work. You see, it is always happening. Yes. And we can't do anything for them, right? I mean, nobody will listen when they're in that state.

We have to just do it. You can guide people. Do not lose that from yourself. You can guide people. You can. I feel like nobody listens to me because they're all they used to. But when they're in these states of agitation and convince they're right and other people are wrong. i feel like you you cannot rob them of the growth experiences of falling they think that they have

you all of you who are watching now there are many times in your life where you thought you hit rock bottom little did you know what was going to happen six months later yes then you finally hit it then you say i'm dying here but somehow i'm not dead yes and you begin to rebirth Yeah, go through the portal. Yeah, you have to. The birth canal, that is it. So your birth and your death. Let us talk about death for a moment.

We hear you talking earlier about the losses you have suffered. Let me tell you, think of death as a doorway. Think of the doorframe. Now, if you walk through the doorframe, for how long are you in the middle of the frame? Half a millisecond? Yeah, that's it. That is what death is. and what's on the other side the illusion that there was another side you say what do you mean

your loved ones are not on when we say they're in the universe they're not hiding behind jupiter the dimensions are right here yeah everything is right here yeah it is frequency and what frequency does that dimension as you call it the unseen the unheard where can you see it and hear it, then you have to realize your sensitivity is your strength. So you go into what you are now calling your sixth sense. You may have a 7th, 8th, 20th, 30th, 100,000, 10,000th sense when you decide you do, when you decide you do. Okay. I would love to have 120,000th sense. List them then. The moment you list them, Laura, they will be. Okay. Well, you have a sense of justice. You have a sense of balance you have a sense of sensitivity yeah that's true oh keep going come up with more words

you see you can't come up with them type them into your ai programs they will tell you i'll come up with 120 000 yeah so now we say earlier they don't understand their sensitivity you would have to have such a deep awakening for example we hear of this word empath a person who is empath feels the feelings around themselves it is kind of like an intuitive gift they have they can tap into another person because they themselves begin to feel a person the person could be smiling could be the waiter at the table and suddenly the person who is empath eating the meal say the chef is very sad Or this waiter is very angry right now. The waiter is smiling.

The empath can feel it. Now, empaths, usually, they tend to feel that which is wrong with a person, a situation, a place. That is how it works. They sense something is off. Now, an empath who has not developed their sensitivities will stay in that spectrum of awareness, which is what is off. They never go to the next level unless they become a master empath to what is also right. For example, everybody right now is sitting either on the chair or the bed or in their car. They are watching on the phone or on a laptop.

Now, in these three items, the chair or the bed you are on and the computer or the phone, how many hands do you think it took just to make from conception to realization and production and sell and land in your hand how many hands did it take for this at least yeah how deep do you want to go what about the people who built the roads that the supply trucks drove on who were the ancestors of those people and had them all right so why don't the empath feel the utter love and joy that all those people did to earn a living to feed their families that are in the chair or the bed that you are sitting on right now why the empath not feel that it is not because it is because they get stuck into what is wrong first oh my god i'm loving that so much i can't even tell

you this is so this is really really important to me because i i think this is what i see all of these empaths losing it and that and you've just explained to me why because they're only feeling the pain and when there's far more to look around the room just at material items you think all of this was created and put together by people who were only feeling sadness anger and pain there was a lot of joy a lot of hope as you call it a lot of optimism as you call it and a lot of surrender to practical life to create a dream or a peaceful life for them and their families that went into making these material things not to mention the innovation yes that is true so you tend to feel oh somebody was here oh there was an argument an empath can feel that in a room

fine good but grow with it because if you stay there you're going to live a very tortured experience yes and they're also tortured i mean i'm an empath too but i guess maybe out of necessity but i feel like out of maybe out of necessity i have grown it where i am not and i look around at my other empath friends and colleagues and even just people i know and i and i'm thinking that i'm the crazy one so what has to happen is that what you see to shift into that next level yeah it is for the boldest hearts it is for those who are truly completely in their heart who allow their sensitivities to triple quadruple even more 100 times that sensitivity you know the artist who is a master artist they have proven this she sees 300 times more gradients of color

than the average person yes the master chef can taste something and say I know how to make this flavor yes yeah or a perfumer yeah so and it makes sense and I love what you're saying about the boldest hearts because that's what I feel I think what happened with me was that I went through a lot of pain but I consciously decided to like really go all the way into it and keep my heart open and keep letting it grow and what happened to you with your with your son was to break your heart open not to break it yes it broke open that's what happened and i let it i made a conscious decision to let it now when you help people if you decide if you decide laura yeah now when you help people when you work with the one-on-one with them those who have been to hell and are

coming to you they can see in your eyes you you know where they have been or where they are you did not know it before you had intelligence you had heart but you were not broken open and you can thank your teacher and brother semi for coming for that that is what he come for that is what he's always here for he is still here for that or what and so for you yeah now the heart is broken open and now you break open all of that which has been tight in the perspectives these ideas

that you say you don't need it anymore because now you have learned it is the consciousness of the receiver that changes this is not the thing that is what some old time gurus they used to eat poison we don't recommend it anymore

it was for a certain time period a certain era for example the renaissance painters are never going to be duplicated the era happened then yes that is it can never be duplicated does not matter even if you make an exact copy of it you are not in the culture of the renaissance that is gone it lives if you can surrender to it in your consciousness by the same token we say to you those gurus used to drink some poison to say look it is not in this i have a certain control of my body in the old days they needed that kind of proof they were not sophisticated in a lot of societies and certain

parts of the world to be able to receive the kind of information that now you're able to receive so the young people that you say it is harder for them they are a different soul group that have come here just like the ones that you call on the spectrum they are a different soul group they are differently abled people yeah it's fascinating and very very true and notice their sensitivities are in other areas not in the areas that you feel they should be sensitive here they say well isn't it understood that I respect you as a being why do I have to talk to you

that is a way of looking at it could be could be so it's our job to keep our hearts open and hold on to or not even hold on because that's an act to just surrender and

no you cannot tell people to keep their hearts open because that is why they believe that they have gotten themselves in this mess in the first place you have to redefine what is the heart first because if they go back what you're saying is hey don't worry about what happened keep your heart open oh watch five more things happen that are terrible this year they will happen by two more day one more hour yeah so you cannot tell them to keep their hearts open right you have to say keep your consciousness open okay keep your consciousness open but i'm keeping my heart open

Your heart is there to love, but you say, I want to lead with it. But you see, when you understand that you are love, and then you use this word heart, what you're saying is, I just want everybody to be happy. I want everybody to feel good. I want to feel good. I want them to feel good. I want there to be peace. Actually, everybody wants that. Believe it or not, even warmongers want that because they feel unsafe.

So they wage war. but they would prefer nobody bothers them so be careful of course it is we're not here to invalidate the heart you are the heart what we are saying is you must see through consciousness so that you're expanded your heart will expand with that you will always be kind but what we are saying is you tend to get hurt because you do not see it through the eyes of consciousness as expanding everything working together why charles dickens right in his book was the worst of times and the best of times. It is still true today. Ask any generation.

Go to the 60s. Say, is it the best of times and the worst of times? They will tell you in 1962. Yes, it is. 72, 82, 92, 2022. 30, 22, they will say it. But if you are hoping for expanded consciousness,

that will then lead to the heart, a bigger understanding of the heart. That has been my experience. You're right. Yeah. Because if you are in grief over somebody who has died, if you say, keep your heart open, they say, well, I got six more people. If one of them die, I'm going to be right back down there. So don't say that. So you say, expand your consciousness to understand that we are all

eternal beings. Understand all of these people are soul counterparts to you who are also there to teach you and to learn from you and that you are never going to actually be separate. You will have different roles in different lifetimes together this is one physical incarnation and then you start to breathe in this spot it is not a comfortable or a spot that you know very well but just like yoga is the same thing and yoga they say stretch here he's all the way stretch there okay yoga teacher says hold it right there extend your fingers spread them out oh all right breathe through your fingers the person going what the hell am i doing here in this yoga class what they mean but they say hold it here and breathe here in this position until you relax and then

relax like this and suddenly there's greater reach greater ability yes greater flexibility so you must be rooted in flexibility yes which is another yourself in flexibility yeah okay so that is why we come to you and your guides are always there listen you become more sensitive and you go more into meditation and let yourself go and release expectations, then you will begin to feel the subtle waves that will become stronger of your guides talking to you. Okay, I'm going to because I've been having trouble with that. So I'm going to...

Maybe Riz will help you, you will see. I will. Bless you. Be well. Thank you. Thank you for being here. Riz is coming back. Riz is back! Hi. Hi.

Yeah, he's something else. I love it. Something else. And he had a lot to say about the questions that I've been holding in my. He's a he's a phenom. I mean, I say I wish. Well, I hope I'd love to have him just sit and talk to kindergartners, second graders, sixth graders and small groups. Imagine what they would get out of it.

Yeah. Maybe you should do that and just not even say you're channeling. Just go in as. Yeah. Make it like it's storytelling time, right? Well, it's amazing because then lots of people protest. We don't want channelers preaching to her kids. See, you're all on one side until they come for you.

Then suddenly you get it. Okay. For me, we did have this though, guys. I don't care if you're black, white, brown, red, yellow, whatever skin color you think you are. We all came from tribes where there was a shaman, there was a channeler, there was a medicine woman, and we were all together. and this is how we learned we transmitted knowledge from the ancestors what i'm doing

that you call new age is actually the old age it was around before religion because it was beyond everything yes he told us he did okay no it's still in my consciousness okay thank you she's like red eagle told us you don't need to tell us i already know from red gotcha thank you i'm i'm used to the co-starring role i'm fine with him being the lead um so this was so such a wonderful conversation so so much to unpack here i wish i could talk to you forever where can we well but where can people find more about you if they want to come three places instagram youtube and my website instagram is psychic riz the whiz that's psychic underscore riz underscore the underscore whiz riz the whiz and uh you'll see the blue check

Mark. So no, it's me and a YouTube channel. And I have a show that I do with my wife who is an empath. And, uh, her name is Ariah and we do live readings Sunday nights. Um, amazing on YouTube. I'm probably the only medium that's doing two hours of free readings for anyone who signs on. Ah, so they do for that. And we'll put all the links in the show notes. So you don't worry about writing that down. If you're great. Thank you. Thank you for the work that you're doing in the world. Thank you for cultivating your gifts and being willing to at least partially give up heavy metal to become this entity. Never going to give it up all the way. Partially. You don't have to. I like that. And yes, the journey continues. Thank you.

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