Language of Love with Dr. Laura Berman - Talking to the Dead wtih Rebecca Rosen

Episode Date: August 31, 2022

Today, on “The Language of Love,” it’s me and Rebecca Rosen teaming up to talk about people who have passed on…and how we can continue to connect with our loved ones even after they have transitioned out of this realm. Rebecca is an internationally acclaimed medium who has helped countless people communicate with the spirit world and exchange messages with people who are no longer here in physical form. As soon as one of my friends told me about Rebecca, I instantly knew I needed to connect with her right away. It was as if something just called me to reached out to her right away, and Rebecca had the same experience with me. After seeing me on television one day, she told her husband that she knew I would reach out to her one day…and she was right, I did! Since we connected, Rebecca has been receiving messages from my son Sammy. Sammy died a little over a year ago, and throughout my grief process, I haven’t been fully ready to connect with him in spiritual form. My pain was so raw and overwhelming, that I wasn’t able to be in a space where I could receive messages from him. But now, I am in a space where I can enter a spiritual relationship with him. As a medium, Rebecca serves as a neutral conduit that can help people connect to their loved ones who have passed on, and ever since I opened myself up to the possibility of receiving these messages, Rebecca says that Sammy has been a very persistent communicator with her. On this episode, you will learn how you can open yourself up to these messages from the spiritual realm and why Rebecca says we ALL have the ability to be a medium. So how can you start getting messages from your loved ones who have moved on? And how can we become ‘soul-partners’ with those people we have so deeply loved and tragically lost in this lifetime? Listen to find out…and to hear what Rebecca says that Sammy has been saying to her for the last several weeks. You can find Rebecca Rosen’s beautiful books such as “What the Dead Have Taught Me About Living Well” and “Awaken the Spirit Within: 10 Steps to Ignite Your Life and Fulfill Your Divine Purpose” on Amazon here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

hey i'm dr laura berman a sex and relationship therapist and for the past three decades i've been helping people learn how to love and be loved better that's what we're doing here on the language of love where i get to answer calls and emails from people just like you my goal with the language of love is to help you discover more meaningful emotional and physical intimacy and to help you build more awareness of how precious and sacred your sexuality really is. Be sure to email me or reach out with your very own love sex relationship questions, and I might just answer them live on the air. It's time we all become fluent in the language of love. So I'm really excited about this language of love conversation. This episode's guest,

Rebecca Rosen is an internationally acclaimed bestselling author. She's a spiritual medium, a speaker, a podcaster. She's really dedicated herself to opening communication between the physical and spiritual world. And she's been on lots of TV and done lots of interviews. But truth be told, I come across a lot of names and recommendations, especially, I mean, I've always been into this sort of stuff, but especially since Sammy transitioned and people are always saying, oh, I have this great medium. And I'm like, oh yeah, cool. You know, I have a long list of people. And something told me when this woman who I just really met told me there's, I have this great person, blah, blah, blah, the usual thing,

Rebecca Rosen. And I don't know, I really just felt called to look you up. So I just was called to reach out to you, Rebecca. So say hi, first of all. Hello. I'm so happy to be here. It sounds like spirit has guided this conversation for us to be together. Yeah. So you felt called because I told you in an email, I got the same hit when I saw your story. What was it over a year ago on a TV show? And I got the chills and I looked at my husband and I said, I know I'm supposed to meet her and work with her. And you don't really think that when you see someone on TV? Cause I'm sure you're always saying about deaths and loss and everything. Cause I did too. And normally, you know, I'll put them in my back pocket to come

back to later. But I literally, as I hung up with her, looked you up and I was like, Oh, I really like the way this website feels. I really like her. I want to interview her. I wasn't even really thinking about a reading. I think I told you this in the email after you email me back that you got to hit, you were going to hit me. I was like, well, I wasn't really, I'm sensitive not asking people like you for readings or to do readings on air because most psychic mediums don't like doing that. And I guess maybe there's some performance anxiety. I don't know. But you immediately were like, oh no, Sammy has a lot to say to you. Yes. No, this to me, when that happened for me, I knew it was Sammy's spirit, my guides, your guides collaborating. And I don't go

chase people down ever. I say, okay, spirit, bring it to me. If, and when the timing is right. And then randomly you reached out and I wasn't surprised. And I just, I feel you, you feel very familiar to me, which tells me on some soul level, there's a reason. And we know each other. So I'm very excited to be here. And your son has been with me ever since you reached out. He has been following me around. He does that. Let me just back up before we get into Sammy, which I'm dying to know about and I want to hear about. I always like sort of the stereotype is that movie. I'm having a brain freeze with Whoopi Goldberg and Patrick Swayze and Demi Moore, right? Yeah. Ghost. Yes. Right. And all these spirits,

as soon as they realize she can hear them, they're like bombarding her and won't leave her alone. And so when you say that Sammy has been following you around, does that happen to you where like they won't leave you alone? It does. I have really good boundaries. And so I usually just ignore them. I tell people you can never turn it off, right? Energy, you can't like turn it off. You can turn it down. It's like background music. If you're out at a restaurant, you just tune it out. But with Sammy, I just feel this like connection to him. And maybe I have a son named Sam. You and I have a lot of parallels that I started putting together. I'm like, this is not a coincidence. I lived in Santa Monica, all these things. And so he just really in desperation

because he comes to you, but sometimes it takes someone neutral. When you're really close to it, sometimes it's hard to get a clear read and the connection feels a little fuzzy, especially when we're going through our grief process. But I'm a neutral, clear channel. And so I see he thinks this is the opportunity to connect with you on a deeper level. And so that's why we're here. I think that's amazing. And I think it's amazing for obvious reasons, but also because for, I would say, he died a little over a year ago. And it was so clear to me when my mother died 10 years prior, I immediately wanted to connect with her. That's where I put my attention on the fact that energy never dies and really cultivating that connection.

same thing when my spirit mother died about a year ago when my father died I just like needed a break I didn't want to connect with him at all for a while but I was like you go and do your forgiveness work and whatever else and I need a break for a while before I connect with great but with Sammy I was very clear that like and it's not that I was mad at him or I was just like I am in so much pain and it wasn't that hearing from him would be comforting, but I really felt like he was going to have, like we were going to be partners and we were going to have a different kind of relationship than ever would have been possible with him in human form. But I was not, I didn't feel like I had the capacity and it was still too raw, kind of like you're saying.

And I would say probably only about a month ago, which is why this is perfect timing, I kind of put out that intention. Okay, I think I'm finally ready. Not that I haven't got people, medium psychics, different people have given me messages from him. But what I'm ready for now is beyond messages, if that makes sense. Yeah, it does. You're ready to be in partnership with him.

so the read I get is that your souls are now collaborating and doing some very important work you're both teachers in your own way and he from the other side can do more for you and with you as your silent partner right and right and so now you're feeling ready and inspired to raise your own vibration to a higher level. It's already high, but we can keep ascending higher so that you can be in complete alignment with him, right? And so sometimes again, when it's so personal and so raw, it's hard to be neutral. And in order to read clearly and you need to be neutral. And that's what I'm getting. You're in that place now. You're ready. Definitely was not neutral before. And even now, as you say that, because I'm always seeking to be honest with myself, as

you say that, I definitely feel capacity for neutrality. But I'm aware that when I call to him, usually the best way that I can communicate with him is before I go to sleep. And I never remember my dreams unless he comes to me. But I'll be like, okay, Sammy, come on in. And he will just literally enter a dream that he has nothing to do with and just come over. And the other night he just kept saying, because I said before, OK, Sammy, come into my dream and tell me what's going to be supportive of our connection. I have no idea why, but he kept saying, you got to read the Bhagavad Gita.

Wow. I know the Bhagavad Gita and I know it's a spiritual text and a poem, a very long odyssey like poem about from out of the mouth of Krishna. right? Krishna is basically the one speaking, but I'm like, why the hell is Sammy telling me to read Bhagavad Gita? But I got it. And I'm going to read it because I also know that when you get those hits, part of what keeps them coming is to listen to them, right? And to take action, not just to ignore them. But I want to drill down into something you just said, because this is not just for me guys. I'm the Greek choir here, right? I'm going through this, but there are so many people. And I know you're listening who have lost people who get hits, who want to connect more. And so I also not only want to be completely self-indulgent and talk the whole time about

Sammy, but I also, I love what you said. And I totally believe that. I mean, I write so much about frequency and I know that when someone transitions, energy never dies. So that energy remains and they are vibrating. The reason they're no longer here in large part is because they've left their body behind the vehicle that they had as a soul for this life. They feel like they're on the other side, but really it's because they're vibrating at a frequency so high that like we as humans couldn't even reach in our human bodies. So we have to kind of raise it high enough so that they can meet us in the middle. Am I correct in that understanding? Exactly. That's what mediumship is. And, you know, if anyone who follows me knows my biggest thing is I'm here to inspire other

people to establish or develop their own connection. It's not a gift. We all are born with intuition. We are born with that sixth sense and it's a muscle. And the more you work it, stronger it gets. The more you do your work on every level, the more you raise your vibration. And when you raise your vibe and your frequency, you start to match that frequency of the spiritual energies around you and available to you. I think some people are just born this way and that's part of their purpose. They come in with the capacity that the rest of us can cultivate and grow. Often they had a really tough childhood and they therefore cultivated it in order to be hypervigilant and survive their childhood. And the positive side effect is

that they have these psychic gifts. I'm just curious how this started for you. You know, during childhood, I was raised in a very traditional conservative Jewish household. We didn't talk about psychics. I wasn't overly religious, but I believed in God and something bigger. But I was always intuitive. My mom said, you know, I always got a wisdom that came through me beyond my years. I was in a house with a narcissistic father who struggled with mental illness and I was an empath, right? And so I became ultra sensitive and that's when I started recognizing the signs, but I didn't put it together until I was 19. I was in college and I was going through a depression. My dad had attempted suicide. I was down at the University of Florida,

really far away from home. I'm from Omaha, Nebraska. And so the way I was dealing with that, I was self-medicating with food and I would sleep eat. And so it was a nightmare. I would sleepwalk and stuff my feelings down with food. So I prayed and I prayed. And finally, one day I was journaling and this energy came to me and through me and started taking over my hand for an hour writing through me, my guardian angel thought it was crazy. And my dead grandmother who died by suicide. And it was my dad's mom. And they essentially, that was the beginning. And they said, we are here to help you find healing and self-love. And my grandmother didn't want me going down that same dark road of depression that she went down. And so that's

what opened the gates. I did the work. They gave me this whole program that became the basis of my first book, Spirited. It's how to do the work to heal yourself from the inside out. And from there, I graduated with a degree in advertising and I never used it. And my grandmother kept coming to me saying, you need to use this and help other people. And so I said, all right, God guides, if you want me to do this, bring it to me because I'm not going to go chase people down. And a few months later, I was on the cover of the Detroit Jewish News, which went out to like 100,000 people. And that's what began my career. And that was 23 years ago. So I surrendered to ultimately my purpose. This is what really my book, Quantum Love, was about too, this idea and what's happening on

the planet right now, as we are in this quote unquote ascension of like the Earth's electromagnetic field, the frequency being so high, we're all being called to raise our frequency right now. And I think there's going to be more of us than ever before who have been doing the work, who are maybe even starting the work now. We all know that I'm committed to that healing work and helping you all commit to that healing work, that deep healing work, not just tapping it away or positive thinking it away, right? But really easing those old wounds because then your vibration can rise. And we're all being called to do that right now.

But I just think it's really cool listening to you speak that in the end, one of the things that's going to be happening, and I guess that's what a lot of the metaphysical predictors and prophets and teachers have been saying, is that a characteristic of the quote unquote new earth that's coming, which is not by the way that the earth is going to blow up, guys, but there's going to be so many more of us who are able to do what you do. So, you know, the veil between this dimension and the spiritual realm is thinning, right? So the frequency of the earth is raising. And so therefore we have more opportunity, everyday people to tap into what essentially

is our birthright and, you know, be able, like you said, we're going from a 3D to a 5D consciousness where we can bring heaven to earth. This is the basis of my next book. And it's how you don't have to wait until you cross over to find peace and unity, consciousness and oneness and love. You can learn your lessons. I call this earth school. And we can learn our lessons with grace and ease and joy. But unlike most of us, we've been going through pain and struggle because we're in 3D consciousness. And that puts us in our ego. And our work now is to align with our higher selves and our team and spirit and to, again, bring that unity, oneness, consciousness into the body so that you can enjoy the ride. And I'm doing that more than ever before, which is why I think I'm finally ready. And I can feel around the edges.

I think I said this in one of our email communications leading up to this interview, is that I felt it from the beginning. Certainly, when I do breath work or go into a really deep meditation, I see images of him and I can feel him. I definitely feel him, feel the energy of him, and often feel him right inside my heart, if that makes sense. But I don't hear him. I don't have conversations with him. Like I said, I asked him for a message. He just kept saying in my dream, So let me ask you, like, let's dive into this. What's my telling you? So as you're talking, what he, and you have a very strong angelic guide and your son is not your guide yet. Okay. He's showing me he's still in a school desk. That means he has work to do

to understand. It's like doing a life review and taking inventory of this, the choices he made and, and all of that, but he is your partner. He's a soulmate. And so he's, he's intertwined with your energy. And when you talked about your heart, he's showing me wearing like a necklace or something around the heart chakra that would connect you to his energy. So like, if you had a little locket with a picture of him or his thumbprint, his ashes in a necklace. Yes. Perfect. Wear that when your intention is to receive more clearer connection. What I'm seeing right now is it doesn't have to come through words and dialogue. It can come through different types of clairs, different impressions. So you get a feeling, clairsentience. You get a

vision, clairvoyance. You get an out of the blue aha moment, claircognizance. So what they're showing me is that it will vary day to day. You're not doing anything wrong. The guide is showing me he's not ready or he's not skilled enough to be able to give you the download of dialogue just yet. So he's doing his work. And who's the angelic guide, I wonder? So I would say this is your guardian angel. And everybody has a guardian angel. And then we have a team of different guides that come and go. Well, let me start with this. So the guardian angel is not a human. It's a spiritual light being. Okay. Was with you from the day you're born until you pass away. They're showing me your book. When I see the book opened, it means your soul contract and the lessons you

agreed to sign up for, to teach and to learn. Your son is a very evolved soul, like this earth angel. He was an empath. Did you guys ever talk about that? Okay. And so he, sometimes the world got to be too much for him. And so he wanted to numb out or check out. That's part of what, was he experimenting with like drugs? Is that? Yeah. That's basically what happened. He was a complete empath from the time he was a little baby. Like if I took him to a really crowded and I understood at this point, thank God, like when he was three or four, what an empath was. That was around the time that I was starting to really understand it, but I would take him to like a circus or a kid's show and he'd be like, mommy, too, too much. And he was always teased and always

bullied, but super, super intuitive and empathetic and saw everybody's pain and felt and was really rejected by his peers. And right around the time COVID started, we were actually looking at taking him out of his school because he was at lunch every day with the football coaches because it was like a war zone in his school. And he started begging us to let him smoke pot because the few kids that would hang out with him were the druggie kids and they wouldn't hang out with him if he didn't smoke pot. And I said to him, I desperately want to say yes. Like there's a part me this like, okay, just, you know, just so you can be feel connection and, you know, but I can't as your mother, I'm not going to say yes. Like we have to find a different way for you to connect

with other kids that aren't doing drugs. And he just wasn't real. And also it was COVID. So it was hard to get him going to even find things, but the things I found, he just wasn't interested in. And then he met this girl who was really into drugs remotely and he started connecting with her. And then this drug dealer reached out to him on Snapchat and offered him a menu and he ordered a few things, got delivered to the house while we were sleeping like a pizza, asked me if this girl come over. And I said, no, I think because I don't even remember what had happened leading up to that. But I said no. And thank God I said no, because she, God forbid, would be gone now, too. And that would be impossible. Right. But the thing he took was not whatever he thought he was taking because the only thing

in his system was fentanyl. So it was a counterfeit pill, powder, whatever it is he took. And then we found him in his room. And what he's showing me now is that it was unintentional and he was experimenting and it was something to take the edge off of all the noise and all the energy he felt. It was overwhelming. And that's the empath part, because when we feel that my tendency I used to in the past use food to numb and self-medicate, but what he's showing me is we all have a drug of choice.

Unfortunately, this probability that opened up, that was this unintentional exit point. So he left the body and he wanted to desperately come back in. And he's showing me that he, that's where he met with his guide. And that's usually where you either have a major wake-up call and you have a near-death experience and you come back in or you leave. And he's showing me the reason he left is because he realized you and he together are the one-two punch. You are a powerful team that you can now enlighten and educate others who struggle with the same

sensitivity, being an empath. And as you just mentioned, you yourself, you're a healer, you're a teacher, and you're here to help people through their own ascension process. And he's showing me that he doesn't, he's at peace with this. He doesn't have, he feels your struggle, all of you, the family, and that's where he has sadness,

but he himself has made peace with the fact that he's in spirit. He's saying he spends a lot of time in nature. He's showing me being at the beach, something about when you go to the water, that's where he'll connect with you, but you don't actually have to physically go to this location or any beach, you can close your eyes and meet him there. So did you guys have a

special place that you would go to? The irony is that he was kind of a baby about going to the beach. And when I was deciding where to spread his ashes, a friend of mine, who's like a intuitive psychic healer, spiritual healer, Teal Swan, because she worked with him a lot after he died. She was telling me what you're saying, like he does not want to go to the light. He is just so stubborn. He's so freaked out, like he did not want this to happen. And then I took his ashes. I was in L.A.

We used to live in Chicago. He was very attached to Chicago. And she says, I don't know why I'm saying this. I've never even heard of this. I didn't even know Chicago had beaches like she didn't even know there was a lake in Chicago. She said, but he's telling me someplace called Gilson Beach. Wow. This beautiful beach in Chicago.

So I took his ashes there. I brought all my tribe together and we had this beautiful release ceremony after I put his ashes there. And then I often feel him and connect with him now when I go to my ecstatic dancing, which you guys know I love, which is on the beach. And I'm in that zone. I definitely feel him. Yes. And what he's showing me is that he meets you wherever you're at when you're present. And he's showing me dropping out of your head, overthinking, how do I hear him? How do I connect? That's going into effort. And when you surrender the resistance and you just be, and you drop into your heart, we drop into your body, which is your dancing, moving meditation. So keep doing what you're

doing because you're only going to grow that muscle and feel a stronger connection. And that build your faith and trust. What he's showing me are butterflies. So butterflies are a sign for change and transformation, but it could also be, do you ever get butterflies? Yeah. Butterflies are him. I mean, I don't know why, because it seems like a really obvious thing. And my intention was to pick a less prevalent thing in Southern California. So it would be a really obvious, there's Sammy. But I kept thinking, I think he's a butterfly. But I was like, no, that's too easy. And then my husband who is like, not like he thinks and is committed to the idea that when you die, you're gone. It's over. Like he just isn't. And I don't,

that's fine. Right. Like, but all of a sudden this butterfly, we're sitting outside, this is probably two weeks after Sammy died. And he's like, oh, maybe that's Sammy. And then I thought to myself, okay, he definitely is a butterfly. And then at his little ceremony on that beach, his best friend from Chicago who came, brought a whole pile, like a whole bunch of butterflies that we released. That's amazing. And it represents, it's symbolic of both of you ascending higher, right? The caterpillar evolving into the butterfly, going into your ascension. And he's showing me one of the lessons in this for his dad. So when you go through a tragedy like this. And in my opinion, there's no greater loss than that of a child. And so what's going on is

it either brings you closer or further away from your faith and trust in the divine. And so you've obviously gone in the right direction. He's trying to slowly, he's showing me your husband will get there. He's slowly warming up to this, but he goes at his own pace and you're supportive of that. Your detachment of it allows him to do his thing. And in his own way, we all grieve differently, but he'll get there. And Sammy's going to bring dad's signs when he's in the car or in the garage. And I'm seeing just out of the blue, did he have this, did your husband have this idea? Like, let's build something, let's build a house, let's move, let's change up what we're living in. Both of us have been, cause our youngest is graduating the end of next year. And it's mostly

both of us have always had want to be, I had no idea. My husband, my husband didn't know this either that he's a gardener. He really likes it. So I've had this obsession over the past six months with a hobby farm. Like I'm really seeing that in my future and he's totally on board. That's great. Well, it's going to be very healing for you guys. And your son is in nature. And when you go to nature, literally you will feel a stronger connection. It's a higher frequency. He's showing me white roses and white roses vibrate at the frequency of forgiveness and purification. And so if I'm seeing white roses, literally, roses in my language in general mean I love you, but random experiences where you receive white flowers, white roses,

has that been happening? I was just commenting with my husband this morning. We have a bush outside and usually the roses are, I'm laughing because this is so funny, but usually the roses are light pink and this batch of roses on these bushes are, it's just like covered in white roses. That's it. And we're talking about your husband and his healing and that involves forgiveness and right. And so you are your husband's teacher right now, but it's through your example, not your words. And your son is saying he works with his other siblings. It's brothers, right? he works with them, but he's also very respectful of their boundaries. Like one is open. One is not. Is that the case? And the one who's not, he's respectful of he'll get there just like dad will

get there. And the one who's open, he loves this. And I see music, music. Does that one play the guitar, do anything with music? Well, it's interesting because Jackson, the younger one who would be the one that's a little more resistant is not resistant to the idea per se, say, but he is scared to death of it. And I keep saying to him, like, it's not, but ghosts aren't scary. Like, you know, it's like if the lights start blinking, which he sometimes does or something like that happens, my youngest flips out, like he gets so scared. So I think that's why he's a little resistant. The older one, the 25 year old, he is very open now. I mean, he wasn't always, but he's very open to the spiritual realm, but it's the youngest one,

Jackson, who actually is the music maker and play. Connects to him through music. So tell him when you're trying to process your grief, go play your guitar, go listen to music. It helps heal him, but also raise his vibration, which in turn will help him feel his brother's higher vibrational spirit. What I'm seeing is the dog. So the dog, there is a dog. That's an angel. I always say animals are like angels. They're pure, unconditional love package in the body sent to us to help us heal, comfort us, ground us, clear us. You have a dog that does that for you and does it for that son. Is that son still living with you? Yeah, I know exactly. That's Bailey. I mean, Bailey has saved my life literally this year. Yeah. And so because the probability existed

of this happening, Bailey's here to help you through this. There's a Lynn. Do we know who Lynn is. So Lynn in spirit would be like Ellen, Linda, Linny, any LN sounding name. My mom, but you're talking about here or. No, no, no. In the spirit world. So in mom has passed. Yes. That's what it is. She's here like this angelic being helping you on some level to comfort you in a sense, being your cheerleader to help you stay in faith and trust. Cause we have moments. You know, we know grief isn't linear and there's days that you have a hard time pulling yourself out of bed and she gives you the will because you have to keep showing up for your other kids. You're doing a beautiful job. Sammy's in good hands. He's funny. He has a

really good sense of humor and he's going to be a prankster. And he's showing me, he moved your phone on you recently or a device. And you're like, I know I put this here and it's not there And you come back and it's there. So things like that, messing with electronics, lights, electricity. Messing with the lights, specifically my bedside light, he'll start blinking. When no one else is around. Yes. And he also blinks the lights in the hallway.

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Okay. Well, it's a mother figure S initial with your son right now with Linda and your father is there, but will not come forward today. And I think it's partially to respect the space, but he is in good spirits and he has healing to do. Was his passing in the last two years or so? Yeah. Two years ago. And he was a toxic narcissist and has a lot of work to do. Yeah. To put it nicely. But what I see is send him love and you are good. You did your work with him and came full circle. You brought closure to your relationship. I did. Oh, I totally did. I had that conversation with him. Yeah. And Sammy is telling you that do you sleep with his like shirt, like a blankie? Did he have? He did. So his father has his little stuffed animal. I

don't know what he did with it. I think he put it somewhere and I have his robe that I keep in my closet that I go and sniff from time to time. That's it. I see you sniffing it and snuggling it and it's this soft robe. And what he's saying is, is that's an unspoken invitation. When you do that, it calls him closer to you. And then you really get emotional and you feel him. So that's a good tool. If you're struggling to get out of your head and get into your heart, he's telling you, he he's humbled by how many people have acknowledged his passing. He feels he didn't know how many people loved him. And what he's showing me is he's like overwhelmed with all the outpouring, but not just in honor of him, but in support of your family. He's telling you,

he wakes you up at night. Sometimes he'll poke you and you might say, why am I up at two o'clock, three o'clock every morning and use that time to mentally connect with him, like meditate. He's telling you, he's just showing me, thank you. You were the best mom. He didn't always listen. And sometimes he'd roll his eyes at you because he was independent. He wanted to test the boundary, but he always respected you and he still does. And now he sees your equals, which means you guys truly are soulmates. Does the color purple mean something to you? He's showing me, he's sending you, let's say you get purple flowers or whatever this is. And then he's showing me these hearts. And whenever I see hearts, it's obvious it's about love. But if you, somebody

give you a heart shaped crystal, a heart, you find heart shaped rocks. It's about the eternal nature of his love for you and yours for him. Okay. So butterflies, purple hearts, necklace, all of this. And he's telling you, like, I always tell people don't limit your science, just be open. Cause they'll evolve and change over time. But most importantly, it's not the physical objects that just helps build our faith and trust. It's the feeling you get and you can feel it when it feels real. I definitely can. I know what it feels like. What I feel when I feel him is the closest I can describe it is how I felt, which didn't happen very often in his teenage years as it doesn't

with most teenagers. But there would be once in a while, often like I remember my dad's funeral when I was crying as I put the dirt on the grave and he came over, he had this look of sweetness like, and, you know, on his face and he pulls me into him and, you know, kind of hugged me. And there was this nurturing and sweetness that he would go into not as often in his teenage years where he was really being loving and nurturing. And that feeling I would get when I would witness him or be the lucky recipient of him doing that is the sense of him that I get when I connect to Yeah. That's his soul. Yeah. And we have personalities and we sometimes mask, wear masks and we conform to fit in and we lose that, but our, it's always there. You just have to uncover

it. So there's someone, a guide named Lala, or is that a guardian? Have you named any of your angels or guides? I don't know. I want to know them. I'm just starting to explore this. That's why you're ready to hear this. So you have a guide. I don't, it, they really don't have names. they have an energy of vibration and I'm hearing Lala. Okay. Lala. Lala. And she is this maternal, it's like a matriarch figure. So there's something like when your earth mother passed on, she stepped in. Are you talking about Sasa maybe? Who's Sasa? Sasa was my spirit mother. She was my mom's best friend. Yes, that's it. She's my only example of pure unconditional love. That's it. and she's an angel. She was an earth angel. She was here. And then she left this realm and now

she's picking up where she left off to continue to guide you as a spirit guide. So your job now is to call on her every day. Okay. Cause she, this might sound funny, but she's showing me, she has, she's like your umbilical cord to mother Gaia to, to feeling held by mother earth. and she's the only one i've ever heard i hear her like if i say sasa right now i can she comes in my left ear and i can hear exactly what she's saying because you have no resistance right you're in complete acceptance because on a soul level you know that it was her time to go and that your connection's eternal and there's still some resistance which of course there is you're human as a mother, you lost your child, but they're still trying to come to terms with on a mind

level of the magnificence of the loss. And that resistance creates static in your line to the divine, to your son. So if you're saying, how do I get a clear connection directly with him? It will come in time. You're really far along, further along than most people who have lost a child. But that's because this is part of what your soul is here to learn. And therefore, after you learn it, you teach it and show others how to do the same. He'll learn, teach. He'll learn, teach. He'll learn, teach. I keep saying, all right, I am done with the lessons. Just going to ascend now. I don't need my ass kicked anymore. But I do want to ask you this because I talk to so many parents. I hear from so many parents, thousands and

thousands of them on the Parents for Safer Children Facebook page who are saying to me, I'll talk about this kind of thing, or they're going to listen to this podcast. And they're in so much pain, seven years out, can't even walk by their child's room. And I know that part of the reason I'm doing as okay as I am is not only because I have the amazing team of friends and healers and people who have supported me, but also because of the years of loss and grief i've already like i know how to do grief and i mean never face one as wide and deep as this but i know how to do it most people don't and so what advice would you give someone who desperately wants to feel and recognize that endless infinite never-ending

connection we keep with our loved ones including our children and are in so much pain yeah it's an oxymoron because they need it more than ever when they're in that pain, but they can't access it when they're in that much pain. Sure. You know what spirit tells me all the time is there's no greater gift than you can give your departed loved one than going on with your life and being present and showing up and fulfilling your purpose and living fully with joy. And that's really hard when you are in so much pain and suffering, but it's, it's one step at a time. What I'm hearing to say is when we go through trauma, we get fragmented. Our energy gets fragmented. And a lot of times we dissociate from our body and you have to call your energy back, call it home to you,

to your heart, to your soul, get back in your body. So do things that ground you, that get you centered and present, raise your vibration, do things that bring you joy. Like you, for you, it's dancing music. You know, maybe it's going for a walk, snuggling with your dog, but figure out what that means. And you have to take it day by day. And when you do this, you naturally start to increase your vibrational frequency. And when that happens, you will start to get more miracles, more synchronicity, that more signs from your departed loved one, which in turn builds your hope, your faith, and your trust. And when you have that, you start to find healing because you realize not just conceptually, but you fully feel they're not gone. Like you said, energy doesn't

die. They're just in a different form and they're at a much lighter, higher frequency. And then you can establish your own connection on a daily basis. You don't need people like me to do it for you. I think that's such great advice. And I particularly love, because this was something that was a complete surprise to me in this grief journey, because the last profound earth-shattering grief was when my mother died 10 years ago. And the way I handled that, like I said earlier, was to go immediately into connecting with her and energy never dies and like to be in the flow of that. And I also was filming a television show and had a radio show and I had no time to fall apart. And within a year I had breast cancer in the same breast that she did ultimately killed

her. And so I was very clear when Sammy died, like I am, I don't know why this happened because a part of me wanted to die, obviously a large part of me, but I also knew I had these kids, But then very quickly, these other kids and this family that needed me, but very, very quickly, I don't know why, I became immediately beyond what I've ever understood before what an insane gift it is to be alive. like I just was like flabbergasted I think it was maybe because it really all the other losses I'd had had been after long illnesses and the fact that he died so tragically and suddenly and that his light could just be turned off like that somehow hit home to me that my life is an unprecedented gift and I was committed to staying alive and the one of the key ways I knew and this is how it started, that I knew I needed to do that was to feel the pain and not run away and be in.

And so I set about really doing that. And that led to me, in order to feel the pain, I had to come back into my body and be in my body and stay with that shittiness and move it. And the side effect of that, which was the last thing I expected, was a deeper spiritual connection because I had already always achieved my spiritual connection up here in the clouds out of my body. And that's what most people think of. Right. What really happens is that you come into your body because your body is like the antenna, like the conduit or the bridge. And so the more you're in your body, the more you can heal. And so I love all of what you're saying. I think that's really cool. Yeah. And I love you're talking about not spiritually bypassing,

which so many people do. You have to feel it to heal it. And the other thing Spirit talks about, You have to feel it, first feel it, really just sit with it and lean into that discomfort and then try and find meaning and make sense out of it or find purpose, right? New from Nespresso, blend wellness into your coffee routine with the Coffee Plus range, infused with functional benefits. Choose the coffee you love with added B vitamins, like Coffee Plus B12 to help support immune function and Coffee Plus B6 to keep your day moving. or go with the flow and choose ginseng delight our new double espresso with ginseng extract

whatever lies ahead don't change your morning let your morning change you discover coffee plus on espresso.com much later like first you gotta really wallow in it and people are so scared of it and they think that it's going to carry them away and if i let myself feel the depth and breadth of pain that i really feel right now i will never come out of it and the opposite is true. It's like, otherwise it's like white noise in the back of your system, constantly just building. If you don't. Exactly. Yeah. Your guides are so proud of you. You are doing your work and it's okay to not be okay. And it's about receiving from spirit, receiving from those in this world. It's about letting, in a sense, the divine carry you and hold you. I'm

seeing you holding a tree, like hugging a tree, a big tree hugger. Oh, there you go. It's working. So that's how you connect a source, whatever you want to call it. And Sammy is out there hugging it with you. He's showing me that he is like, like summer camp. He wants you to pick, do you ever do summer camps? Yeah. He's showing me like this carefree kid running around barefoot and not, there's no shame. There's no, none of the personality stuff that we go through if I'm not enough. And he feels he's so powerful, this kid. And he's not even a kid. He's a soul that has a very old soul age. And he's showing me is with someone, there's a Ruth. Do we know a Ruth or a Rose? There's someone by that name and a Jack. And these, this is interesting because those are

my grandparents' names in spirit. So I'm trying to figure out if there's a parallel or he's with my people too. I don't know a Jack or I have a grandpa Jack and I have my grandma babe who came to me was Ruth. So that was the one that's really funny. So you know what this tells me as I knew you and I were meant to connect. So on set, we're all one when we cross over. And so my people and your people are coming together to help bring all this through because it's going to advance the work you're doing and make, in a sense, give you that purpose we were talking about, because you're ready. Your purpose preceded your son's passing. Your son's passing brought all the pieces together. What I'm seeing is, so it's like, if you didn't have enough time to really

grieve your mother's passing, right? You fluffed it under the rug. You did a little here. You were forced to, you were brought to your knees. It's called the shattering. Yeah. Right. And in that shattering, you have the breakthrough and more light comes in more awareness and you ascend higher. And that's what this, if there is a purpose, it's to continue to show up and be the light for others. And when you do that, that's how you best embody or connect with your son's soul. Basically, as soon as he died, I don't, I felt so helpless and so freaked out and so scared because I didn't even know you could get drugs on Snapchat, much less at Snapchat. I didn't know either. Yeah. So I immediately just put out a post. I don't know what the fuck I was thinking.

and the whole world blew up about that. And then I was like crying one day and I just decided, you know what? There are all these other parents on here with me crying. I'm going to show them it's okay to cry. And the response of people saying that it felt so healing to them to see me be willing to be with that grief. I was like, okay, well, I'll keep doing it. And I never would have put myself on camera before this snotty and crying and makeup bliss and whatever. And so it did free me up in a lot of ways. One other question I want to ask you, and I don't want you to sugarcoat it or bullshit me, okay? Obviously, when your child dies, I can understand the larger purpose and our soul contract and the ways and blah, blah, blah. I totally get that.

And yet, there hasn't been a minute of his life that I haven't reviewed thinking, well, if we hadn't moved here, maybe this and this and this wouldn't happen to let him here. or if I had let him smoke a little pot, or if I had walked into his room an hour earlier, or if I had done something else, not even just a logistical thing like I'm describing, but if I had stood for him in a different way or made different choices in my parenting approach or whatever, the larger question is like, how am I to blame for this? The question we asked. That's a really important question. You're taking ownership and you're part in this. But what they're showing me right now is the book is his sole contract, 16-19-21. These are potential exit points. An exit point is a probable exit if you feel you've done your work or you can no longer do your work, and then you will have some form of opportunity to leave the body. So what they're showing me is if he bypassed 16, another one would have shown up at 19

and another at 21. And here's why. Because this is a very evolved soul. I call it the earth angel archetype. And he didn't need 90 years in a body to learn his lessons. In fact, he, in a sense, is more powerful now with his physical absence and he can reach more people and heal more with you and through you. So that is part of it. So could you have done something different that would have altered the outcome? No, they're saying no, because of

free will. So if he bypassed it, maybe you would have a few more years with him, which are precious, right? But at the end of the day, he has his own soul contract, his own free will, and his own opportunity to decide whether he's going to stay and do his work or leave and do his work on the other side. So no, I'm getting, there's nothing you did or didn't do. In fact, right now, what he's showing me is you showed up, you gave him space to be himself, but you were also in a very present and involved mom. So you weren't hovering. And he's showing me that he had the best of both with you and dad. There's like a yin and yang going on here. And he wasn't afraid of any of this. He was open to all of this. So death and dying, the afterlife, none of that scared him.

So he was not afraid when he died. He didn't want to go. I see that there was a lot of resistance because he realized on a mind level, I want to be back in my body with my family. But his soul was at peace with it. I'm asking your guides right now. Is there anything else you could have done? So you could rehash this a million times over in your head and your soul knowing is going

to come back to the same conclusion. And that is you did everything in your power to support him and then you hand it off to him. And so, you know, that you could not have changed the outcome. Your mind is what's trying to, you're grappling with this because that's what we do. Yeah. And it does give me bizarre comfort that since he took fentanyl, right? not what he thought he was going to take. If for some reason we had Narcan in the house, which now of course we do, but I didn't even know about Narcan and we could have revived him,

or if the paramedics had been able to revive him, or if there had been less fentanyl in whatever he took and he had survived. Fentanyl is 30 times more powerful than morphine and three times as addictive as heroin. So I have often thought, and it gives me cold comfort, but it does give me comfort that if he had lived, he would have been fighting, you know, he would have been a heroin addict times three. He would have been fighting addiction, hardcore and with him. He's saying, yes. And what you also have to remember is if on a soul level, he has any desire to live, divine intervention occurs and he would have lived. But if on a, we're not talking his human mind and ego. On a soul level, if he's at peace saying, this is one of my exits and I would rather

move on and teach than come back into a body and struggle, then that's why no one rescued him. That's why you didn't have the meds. That's why the paramedics didn't get there. You weren't supposed to save him. In fact, the greatest gift you gave him was in a sense, honoring his soul's choice to leave the body and not fighting that. Now, what I'm seeing is dreams are really important. You, you said you don't remember your dreams, but we, but we don't have to remember them. It's, you're still connecting. A lot of times we leave our body and we astral travel and we're going to the fourth dimension, fifth dimension, connecting with spirit. And when we come back, we don't remember it, but we feel something, we feel a shift. And that's how

your guides and your son have been connecting with you almost to bypass your mind from over analyzing, overthinking. Which it likes to do. That's what we all do. And so they're reminding you that when you're missing him so bad, it hurts. When you go to bed at night, invite him in. This is for everyone listening. Invite them in and then let go. And don't wake up frustrated or disappointed if they don't show up. It takes tremendous energy for a spirit to be able to project into your consciousness in your dream state. Yeah. But in time they will. There was this one time where he came in and it was definitely like a lucid dream. And I remembered every detail, which doesn't often happen, but he was just sitting there so good naturedly while I

sniffed and snorted all over him. I was like, I was aware of what was happening and that he was not supposed to be here. And he was visiting me in the dream. And I was like, oh my God, you're here. And I was like smelling him and squeezing him and like touching him and hugging him. And he was just sitting there like really good naturedly letting me snort and sniff all over him. And then after a while, like for whatever reason, it was time for him to leave. I don't know why they decide to leave when they leave these places, but that was a really good experience. Yeah. And it lasts and because you can feel it still and remember it, you know, it was a visitation and not your mind imagining it. He's showing me, have you thought about

getting a little tiny tattoo, like a micro tattoo on your wrist? I have. I don't know what it would be though. It's something to connect you and he, like, I'm not saying this is it, but if you've got two angel wings or two hearts interlocking, it's something that holds significance to your special bond with his soul. As a daily reminder, and he is showing me your right hand and my senses is. And he's saying, yes, he's your right hand now. He is your silent partner in spirit helping you not only to go through this process and learn these profound lessons, but to pay it forward in service to others. And I'm seeing a salt cave for some reason. Have you been to a salt cave? No, but I'm a big fan of them. And I do a lot of work. I have Himalayan salt all over because I've

been really doing these visions of this hobby farm. And for some reason, I keep seeing instead of a headboard, a salt wall. Oh yes. And salt wall. I don't know how the hell you even do that, but that came to me in a meditation as well. So yes. And so he and your guides are inspiring these important pieces of information. And a lot of times we get information, you know, time isn't linear. So we'll get stuff about the future that makes no sense. I always say, write it down and then it comes to pass and you connect the dots. So the bottom line is it's Something about not only your own healing. Have you ever thought about doing some type of retreat center for other people?

Yes. And I desperately want to do. I'm just getting my energy together to get in touch with a foundation who's willing to help me so that donations can be tax deductible. But I am going to raise money to take a group of grieving mamas out into the Redwoods and healing there for them. That's powerful. Oh, amazing. So I want them to have what I got as a gift from all my healers and from 1440

Multiversity and all these places. Most people can't afford that. I don't think I could have afforded it, but all of my healer friends have said they'd volunteer their time. So if I can just raise the money to pay for their travel. So that's something that I've already written it all up, something I really want to do. And I do have, there's a part of me, It just depends on what kind of hobby farm I can afford when the time comes and where it's going to be. But I have often thought like if I could get 10 acres, I would have people come and retreat there.

So that's what they're saying because they're showing me, yes, it's for you, but it's also meant to be shared with others. But you have your boundaries around that. So that feels very right. And that's part of it gives you something to work towards in collaboration with Spirit and Sammy. and he's showing me this is really specific did you hurt your toe your foot did you recently yes I've got my toes both my big toes yeah I'm seeing it toes have been killing and I don't

know why okay so he's smiling as he knows he feels you some of it if you look at it energetically it's almost like fear of moving forward you know analysis paralysis when you just get so overwhelmed and stuck and you don't know how to move forward. There's something with that, but it's going to release, but he is so in tune with you. He feels that. And when you lie down at night, you said you feel him at night, or that's like a very strong way for you to connect with his energy, not just dreams, but like in your quiet, like moments before you fall asleep. Okay. Yeah. What else do you want to ask? What else can I, should I ask Sam? I have so many, I had so many questions.

I love that you have a Sam here. They keep saying to, this is for you and you may not choose to share this part, but the divine mother, it's something about healing a mother wound. So this goes back to, you said breast cancer, the heart chakra, you being so empathic, you embodied, it's like this transgenerational healing. and you are the one who broke the chain that of dysfunction. And it's about being able to be authentic and real with your feelings. And that is in a sense, also his death served to bring you to your knees. So it all connects back to this. Was your mom sometimes guarded with her

heart or? I was my mom's mom. I was a parentified child. So she was wonderful and we were unbelievably close, but super codependent. I was basically conceived to take care of her while my dad was in Vietnam to be her comfort. Wow. From then on was her comfort and her protector and her confidant and their relationship therapist and whatever else it was always. And she was very, she struggled with depression for most of my earlier childhood until Prozac came out, you know? And so there was a lot of inconsistency and she really didn't have the capacity to, she could only give to me if I was giving to her, like she just didn't have the capacity. So it's so interesting. And so you have embodied all of this and you are now doing the work to

release all of this. You're not holding it in, you're feeling it and healing it. And the reason I say this is your mother is commending you. She's showing me my sign pad on the back, how proud she is of you, how she didn't wake up to it until she crossed over and your ability to keep your heart open and be vulnerable despite what you've gone through is amazing and inspiring. Mama. Yeah. Really connected. I felt like I connected with her a lot the first year or two. And then I felt like I had to release her to go far away to go on some intensive ascended master course or something. I don't know. She was going far away. And I haven't really felt her back with me. So that's nice to hear. She's not necessarily 24-7 with you. She's

there when you intentionally call on her. And right now she's there with Sammy. I was just about to ask you something. They're showing me your earrings are ringing in your ears and I can't figure out which one it is. So did mom leave you with any significant earrings and have you put them away? Cause I've seen you pulling them out. So let's just say these, what are they? Diamond earrings? Diamonds. In fact, my youngest came, he wanted, cause he just got his ears pierced and he, he went into my jewelry box and he came out with these Mongo diamonds that were my mom's that I only wear on like special occasions. And I, you know, cause I'm scared of losing them or whatever. But your mother's smiling and seeing

this recent episode and she's showing me they're meant to be worn and whether it's by him or you, but when you intentionally put them on, you're saying, I just miss you. I want to feel you. Yeah. Okay. So that's something you can do. And then one more thing, happy birthday. Whose birthday is, is this one of your kids who would be coming up? So June 11th is Sammy's birthday. okay, that's it. It's Sammy's birthday. So they're showing me celebrating his memory as you are doing every single day. But literally I see you doing like a balloon release or butterfly release or whatever that looks like to you. I see you letting something go in the air and it doesn't have to be big or fancy. It's just intentional. And now what I'm seeing is 11, his number.

11 is his brother's number. 11, everything is 11. And his trying to identify that as that brother is that older brother or Jackson younger. Okay. So that brother he's around and what does he want him to know? He does send him signs, but he's very like it's numbers. It's very, it's not like deep emotional stuff. Cause he's not ready for that yet. And he does use the dog to mess with his brother.

So there's a dog that's really like anxious or always like, And the dogs, I'm sure you've noticed this, the animals looking around like they're tracking something. That's Sammy. Okay. And I just saw, if you took a photo of it, orbs look like bubbles. Yeah. That's him.

Yeah. No, I see green orbs all the time when I take pictures that he's always in there or videos. And really at the beach, there's always a green orb around me. He's with you. And he's, you know, it's surprising this soon after his passing that he's so like fully charged, but that doesn't also surprise me because he's an earth angel. So he's done this many times before and he knew how to bounce right back, but he's one foot in this world. And sometimes we hesitate. Should I call in them? I don't want to hurt their energy, hold them back. The truth is

if they have to move on, they're going to move on. Showing me as I'm available and I meant to be here to be of assistance to you, to his brothers, to his dad, on any level you need him. So talk to him, keep doing what you're doing and he'll continue to give you the signs that you need. I will. He gave me a song the other day that I was not expecting. That is a good way to connect. Like I'll just be listening to one of those Spotify stations and I'll say, okay, Sammy, you choose the next song. And then like this song will come on about how when it's over, it's not really over or. I always tell people they sometimes because it takes so much energy to communicate, say a sentence in your head, forget it. Usually it doesn't happen. So they'll

give you the song that does that. Yeah. Yeah. That's beautiful. Yeah. Thank you so, so much for this conversation and for all the advice. And I hope that as you listen to this, if you've gone through a loss or, and deeply wanting to make that connection, or all of us can connect to that guidance on the other side that you've gotten some window and some steps to do that. Rebecca, what's the best way to follow you? I know you, you have three books that people can read and another book coming out in the not too distant future, but where's the best place other than that for people? Thank you. My website's RebeccaRosen.com and my social media is at medium Rebecca Rosen.

I have a podcast, Small Medium at Large. Yeah, you can basically find my books and my books essentially are showing people how to do this for themselves. It's empowering others to trust in their own connection. Which I'm gonna do. I'm gonna read them and trust in my own connection more. So thank you, thank you, thank you.

My pleasure. Such an honor to be here and connect with Sammy and with you. don't you wish you could just hit skip on the worst parts of your life You know, the same way you can skip an ad. I get it. I'm Siaia and I live in Ice Cove. I've made some questionable decisions that didn't end up the way I planned.

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