Language of Love with Dr. Laura Berman - The Psychic Navigator with John Holland

Episode Date: December 31, 2025

Why does intuition feel normal, but psychic still makes people squirm? Why are so many of us feeling more sensitive, more aware, more affected by the world than ever before? Something is shifting. People aren’t just asking for answers anymore. They’re asking about their soul, their abilities, their inner knowing. Is consciousness changing, or are we finally paying attention? In this episode of Language of Love, I sit down with John Holland, one of the most respected psychic mediums of our time and a true pioneer in spiritual communication. For more than three decades, John has helped people understand intuition, mediumship, and the ongoing relationship we continue to have with our loved ones after physical death. We talk about how human consciousness is changing and why people are no longer just seeking answers about the future. More and more, we are asking questions about our soul, our purpose, and our own intuitive abilities. John has a beautiful way of making these experiences feel grounded and accessible, while still honoring how sacred they are. We also talk openly about grief, including the loss of a child, shared death experiences, and deathbed visions. John explains why no one ever crosses over alone and how communication does not end when the body dies. It simply changes form. Signs, synchronicities, numbers, sensations, and quiet knowings become the new language of love. John shares why mediums are not meant to be a permanent bridge, but more like a jumper cable. They help us remember that every one of us has the ability to access guidance, connection, and love from the other side. At the end of the episode, he offers five simple and practical ways to strengthen your intuition, tools you can begin using right away to trust what you feel and sense. This conversation is both comforting and empowering. It is a reminder that grief does not disconnect us from love, and intuition is not something we have to learn. It is something we remember. We explore: Why intuition and psychic ability are natural to all of us How and why collective consciousness is changing. The difference between intuition, psychic ability, and mediumship How loved ones communicate after death through signs and synchronicities Shared death experiences and deathbed visions explained Why no one ever transitions alone How grief softens when we understand the soul continues The role of mediums and why you do not need one forever How sensitivity can be both a gift and something to learn how to manage Five ways to strengthen your intuitive connection Why love does not end with death, it changes how it speaks Remember, your intuition is simply the language your soul uses to speak to you. If you feel called to explore and develop those gifts more deeply, you can dive into John’s books, including The Psychic Navigator, or join his intimate Soul Community. You can also connect with John on his Website or Instagram to stay up to date with his work. And if you’re walking a path of grief or healing, you don’t have to do it alone. The Grief Healing Collective offers ongoing support, and you’re always welcome to reach out by email at [e-mail]. Your story truly matters. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hey, I'm sex, love, and relationship therapist, Dr. Laura Berman. And for the past 30 years, I've been helping people just like you learn to love and be loved better. Here on the Language of Love Conversations, I'm talking to some of the world's most influential and revolutionary experts, thought leaders, spiritual teachers, and celebrities about love, sex, and relationships from a mind, body, and spirit perspective. and that way my goal is to awaken your mind body and soul it's time to become fluent in the language of love on this language of love episode i am joined by someone whose work has helped millions

of people understand intuition spiritual communication and ongoing relationships that we can have with our loved ones on the other side john holland is one of the most respected psychic mediums of our time. He's been doing it for three decades, studying the soul's journey, teaching others how to access their own intuitive guidance. His books all give such clear, grounded approach to understanding how intuition works, how each of us can learn to trust it, to build it. Psychic Navigator is one of my favorites of his books. He has an extraordinary way of demystifying these experiences while honoring how sacred they are. And at the end of this episode, he is going to share with us five ways to strengthen your intuitive connection,

practices that anyone can use to access, attune to, recognize the guidance that's available to all of us. I'm really excited to share this conversation with you with John Holland. John Holland, I'm so excited. It's such an honor to have you with us on The Language of Love. Oh, glad to be here. Thank you so much. What a thrill. You have been, as I understand it, I've been following you for a long time, but you've

been doing this for three decades, at least at this point. And I was thinking, as I was thinking about our conversation and what I wanted to ask you, one of the first things I want to ask you is, looking back at the past 30 years, I've spent 30 years in sex, love, and relationships, and I could tell you a lot looking back, right? Looking back, what has shifted the most in your understanding of intuition, mediumship, and the ways our loved ones communicate with us from the other side? That's a brilliant question. What I think is happening to her, I've noticed through the years, is two things. One, I think the consciousness of man is changing.

I really, really do. Because people are more intuitive. I mean, we all are intuitive, not just me or triangle people that meditate. We're all, isn't it funny? You say the word psychic. I mean, people go, ooh, woo, woo. You say intuition, people are like, oh yeah, see, it's, you know, same thing. But I think the consciousness of man is changing.

I think, I don't know if the veil on the other side is getting thinner. People are, I think we're getting, becoming, because look at the world and social media on the outside, we're becoming more sensitive, more sensitive. So you got to watch that. You can turn up the sensitivity and learn how to turn it down. And I also think that besides the consciousness of man changing, years ago, Laura, when I would do a show, Being With Hay House, when they would put you in front of 3,000 to 4,000 people, I mean, what a thrill that was. People were happy to get a psychic reading about their lives and, you know, what's happening or mediumship. But now people, it's changing.

Not only do they want a reading or a message, it's changing. People are like, what about my soul? What about my abilities? What about my intuition? So people asking more questions about their intuitive selves, and hopefully people are getting the right answers, like right here on this podcast. Yeah, we're going to get into all of that. But I think that's such a beautiful point and something I think about all the time.

And I'm so adamant about because we were starting to talk before we started recording. Most people here know my son, Sammy, passed away at 16 five years ago, really suddenly. And I had already lost my parents, my grandmothers. I was with all of them when they transitioned and I had done, I thought, my share of grief work, knowing how to move through grief, but obviously the loss of a child takes it to a whole new level and threw me into a vortex of evolution and transformation that has been really beautiful and profound and that I love to share with other people. But one of the keys, whenever I do healing events or on all of our healing platforms, I'm always bringing in someone like you because for two reasons.

One, once people understand the truth that I already know, that we don't die, our bodies die, right? And I'm not going to want you to speak to this in your words, but that our energy of which we remain, our soul remains, and we can stay in communication with our loved ones on the other side. Once we really understand that, there's a level of grief and pain that is lifted because so much of it is this idea that they're gone forever, which they are in the way you knew them, but that relationship can continue. And the second is that then once someone understands that, then they want to use the medium or whoever that person is as a jumper cable. I'm going to, you know, if I can afford it, I'm going to call them once a week and have my conversation with my loved one on the other side. And exactly what you're saying, I'm trying to help people understand that, yes, mediums like you, especially someone with as much experience and knowledge as you, have a level of tapping in and tuning in that most of us don't. But all of us are capable of it. Right.

We don't have to jump or cable off someone else. No, I say this, Laura. We all have the potential for it. We really, really do, whether it's intuition, psychability, or mediumship. I was born with the high potential for it. I was always like this as a kid, right? That's a whole other podcast, right? I was always like this as a kid, Irish, Italian, Catholic.

I was born this way, right? So I had a high potential. People who aren't, don't have a high potential, you just got to work a little harder and understanding how yours, I'm a big advocate of the mechanics, the mechanics of psychic ability. Chakras, energy centers, aura.

Yeah, chakras, auras, meditation, and breath, right? Those are, and that's what I teach. And so I'm adamant about that. Once people learn that, you can turn up the volume. Yeah, and by turning it, you're sort of opening those channels. That's right. Yeah. And so let's talk about that for a minute. I mean, obviously, this is what you teach on your platforms and in your books. So we're not going to unpack all of it. But just to give people an understanding of how each of those open the channels for deeper communication, not just, you know, when you say there's the mediumship where you're communicating with people or souls on the other side, there's intuition. where you're attuning to knowings or awareness or information that kind of is beyond the five

senses. Right. But how, how do those things you just mentioned play in? Let's clarify this first too, though. There's psychic and then there's mediumship. And you heard the saying, every medium is psychic, but not every psychic is a medium. A psychic, a medium needs those psychic centers because that's how we get the information through the clairs, clairsentience, clairvoyance, clear audience and just for those people because some people if you're going to see a medium make sure you know what they can what their ability is or what you're going into psychic ability law is looking at somebody right as i look at you i'm getting i'm looking at your aura the energy around you which is real people it's real right your past your present your potential

future i never say the future is set in stone right so i'm getting the information from your energy mediumship is different i'm getting it not from you anymore i'm getting it from them on the other side so psychics perceive mediums receive so even though i'm receiving psychically information but that's the best way to do it so in the you and a lot of people no matter what class you teach no matter what book you read or workshop you take or online it's always about quiet in the mind when the when the mind goes quiet the soul speaks right your intuition can speak to you and meditation to first doesn't mean chanting in a cave with an incense ring and a gong oh right it's just even so many people there's people who um you've been on some people been on ellipticals right you zone

out don't you you're like oh wait a minute um you're washing dishes you zone out you're driving a car i'm driving right you're kind of zoning but you're still sick when you when meditate there's different kinds of meditation when you get quiet you because there's so much outside noise how can hear intuition and intuition also let go everyone in well you know this too laura let go of how they perceive intuition and psychic ability on tv let it go everybody it's so dramatized right to make it like google it's intuition is so subtle so when you meditate you and it's just taking five minutes to breathe and look at a candle or a walk in the you know an intuitive walk getting quiet And that's how your intuition, and it's very subtle, very, very subtle.

And the energy around you, when you meet somebody, Laura, for the first time, right? When you meet someone for the first time, do you know if you like them or you don't? I do. Well, I don't know if I like them. I know whether or not I like their energy. Exactly. But you're an aware woman, right? So you say you meet, we're taught not to judge a book by its cover, right?

You see someone who's not dressed well and you're like, well, what's up with them? Say Sally introduces you to her friend, Beth. Hey, Laura, I want you to meet my friend Beth. And the shoes look great. The hair is perfect. She's got the bag, the pocket. But something inside you saying, I don't like them. I don't like them.

Right? You got to trust that sometimes, everyone. Because your aura, their aura is touching yours. And that's how it happens off Laura. It's the energy around people. And it automatically happens also. Do you know what Carolyn Mays told me once? What?

I love her. She said that as soon as you meet somebody, Laura, this is what happens, right? When you meet someone, everyone, this is all tying into intuition and how this works. When you meet someone, you're at a party, okay, and you're mingling, and you meet someone. What's usually, hi, what's your name? What's the next thing you usually ask them? Most people ask, I don't because I'm incapable of small talk, what do you do? Exactly.

That's the red. That's the chakra, right? That's the red. That's the physical. That's money, finances, career, job, family. and then it goes up right to the orange which is the sacral which is the uh this creativity the sexual i kind of like them then it goes up to the of course it already went up to the gut right the solar plex which is like i think i like them or you don't then it goes up to the heart some people

can say meet someone and get stuck right there oh i love them and it's only been a week right then comes the verbalization of it too right how you feel and then yeah so it automatically happens which is a miracle because I know you are about intimacy and the body and sex magic. Your body is one big, giant, beautiful psychic antenna, and it's always going to be on. But a lot of people want to become into it or become psychic, Laura, but you've got to be—I don't want to say careful. Be aware that the price of sensitivity is sensitivity. I was just talking to a girlfriend about this because so much,

as I think you were alluding to this in the beginning of our conversation, about how it feels like the collective consciousness is kind of waking up and she's been awake for a long time but there's like a whole new level coming through for her which i'm seeing happening a lot i don't know whether it's astrology or the solar flares or or catalysts and or i don't know what the hell it is but it seems like a lot of people are like whoa these so-called intuitive and psychic abilities are coming on and she's like all of a sudden i can't even drink a glass of wine without feeling it so intensely. And I walk into a room and I'm feeling everyone's energy. I always say with great gifts, not only come great responsibility, but there's like a

downside in a way, because once you're sensitive enough to intuit things and to feel things, you're feeling everything, including the yucky things. That's right. Yep. And I've learned from, I think it's James Wanlis. He was a Hay House from years ago he has called he has this the abcds of intuition 1a is of awareness so b is for the belief in the failing that you're getting right you know that intuitive feeling that you get c is for the courage to act on that to act on that failing and d is doing it and doing it doing it until it comes second nature because a lot of people they'll they'll you know everyone knows this you get an intuitive hit but you think oh no and then you don't listen to it then you kick

yourself in the ass anyways and say, I knew it. I knew it. I knew it. That is the awareness of the feeling. And then the belief is belief in that. Sometimes too, Laura, a lot of people think this when it comes to psychic building intuition, what's your imagination versus real intuition. So here's this. If you get a call, if you have a feeling, a voice, not a voice like hello, but just a thought in your head or feeling, you know what? I should call my sister. I just called her last week. I'll call her tomorrow. The next day comes.

Call your sister. Just a feeling or a thought. I'll call her tonight. Eden called. Comes again. Intuition, right? Imagination just comes in and goes away. Intuition will keep knocking at the door, right?

We'll keep doing it over and over, but we don't pay attention to it. We're our worst enemies when it comes to this. Yeah, because we talk ourselves out of it, especially if it's an intuition that we don't want to hear necessarily. Like I was at a bar. I don't normally go to bars, but two of my really dear friends were in town. And I went to meet them at this really noisy, noisy place. And I was just like, oh, and I'd been having, I barely got out of the house.

I was just having a really hard day. And I decided to kick myself. I, you know, I didn't want to let them down. And I also am trying to be more social these days. So I went and as I'm sitting there, there's so much noise and so much distraction. And all of a sudden I haven't connected with my Nana, my grandmother who died, I don't know, 15 years ago, at least maybe 20, who I was very close to. But all of a sudden I'm like, Nana's here. and I was so shocked that in this noisy distracted environment I could hear her and feel her I mean it was more of a feeling for me and then I was like okay why why are you hearing that like what's going on why I mean obviously you're always around and available but like why are you coming through

right now and she started I started seeing this visual of her shaking her booty on the dance floor and there was a band there no room on the dance floor there was no way in hell I love to dance but I was not getting up and going and dancing. And she wanted me to dance. And I kept saying, I'm not going to dance. I don't want to dance. And then finally I was like, okay, I'm not going to dance. But I think what you're saying is to just loosen up and shake off this malaise, you know, and I'm going to get up and go sit next to my friend across the table and give her a hug and shake it up. So that was like kind of my compromise. But normally I would just be like, oh, nana's here and i would just keep you know yeah but see what you did see let's use that you just

did that you were a the awareness you were awareness you were aware there's my grandmother b you believe it right you believed in that okay wait a minute i know this feeling you have the courage to say all right grams homes home girl what do you want okay all right indeed doing it over and over again until it becomes second nature so you just did it the abcd is the thing But the bee is the hardest, I think, especially, and I find this a lot with grievers, that bee, right? When they get a sign, when they get a message, they're like, oh, you know, I just saw a butterfly, a beetle and a frog do a dance together, but I must be making it up. And certainly if it's a more subtle sign, people kind of, whether it's a feeling, an intuition or a sign from beyond, we tend to doubt it. Absolutely. Because we're so good at it. We're so good at talking ourselves out of this. Like you could, you're thinking of your mother, right? My mom's passed away now in 2011. And I'm thinking of her. And I'm not John Owen, okay? I'm thinking of my mom and there's the license plate, Jenny. And just when you're thinking of her, and then this is what we do.

My typical Boston accent. Isn't that weird? Isn't that weird? It's like, oh, isn't that crazy? No, everybody. You know, a friend of mine, she gets feathers when every time she's going through something and she knows it's from her dad. I'm not talking at the beach where there's seagulls, where there's going to be feathers. I'm talking about the one that's in the tub she just cleaned, the bed she made, in her pantry, right? And she knows it's from her dad, but she knows that, right? So she, she, she doesn't explain it away and say, well, how weird is that? How did this she she's, uh, acknowledge it. And when your loved ones do that, right. And I'm glad that you did this. They want to know that you're okay. They want to know when they said to you a sign, whether

it's shiny pennies, dimes, aromas, um, coins, synchronicity, they want to know, do they know what's me doing this? Acknowledge it. Say to them, thanks, Grams. I know it's you. Thanks. And some people do this. What do they want? What do they want, John? Nothing. They just want to say, I'm alive. Stop grieving. I'm here for you. Because some people think it's this huge message. Sometimes it is. But it's you just say, acknowledge them. And then another one will come. And don't be, I say you can be specific for a sign law. Maybe you have a specific one for your people. Right? But I made the mistake of this on my mom when she was just about to pass. right? I said, Ma, when you, I said, Ma, when you, before you pass, I said, Ma, when you're on the

other side, if you, if I go to a medium, just send them this and I'll know it's you. But I limited it to, I should have just said, just send me the sign. So I don't go to mediums to mediums because they see me in the audience and they get nervous, right? So I'm still waiting for it, but I opened it up more and say, Ma, send it any way you want. Cause I was just thinking it's only going to come through a meeting. Yeah. Yeah. That's interesting. You said that. I've told this story before, but when my mom passed, it was probably March. Yeah, it was March and it was still really winter in Chicago. And I was in my room, my kids were downstairs with my husband and I was thinking, okay, mom, what's your sign going to be? And I just had this vision of a hummingbird. I wanted

it to be something that wasn't really easy to see. And so I was like, okay, a hummingbird, I'm not going to see a hummingbird in Chicago in March where there's still ice storms and everything else, much less are there ever in the Chicago hummingbirds. And I go downstairs after a little while, and my kids are watching a documentary on hummingbirds on the Nature Channel. And there's swarms of them. Isn't that weird? Isn't that strange? Isn't that a coincidence? Right?

Come on. I've got hummingbirds everywhere, every day for almost a year. But it was rarely a live hummingbird. It was on a cup, on a work of art, on a T-shirt, you know, don't go looking for it either. Don't go looking for it. Let it come to you, you know, recognize it and acknowledge it. Right. I always hear that from experts like you that and you alluded to this, that when you acknowledge

it, it's not like they're going to be disappointed in you if you don't. Right. But it's that now they know, OK, that's a vehicle of communication for us. If you don't acknowledge it or you don't see it, they think, all right, well, she didn't get that. Maybe I'll try something else. They'll go to somebody else, too. They will. They'll go to the mailman.

And the mailman might say, God, I jumped at your mother last night, the one that passed away. They know what they're doing. And then, also, you've got to be open a little. Because I had two sisters once. And they said, and there's two sisters in the audience. And they said, how come she gets all the messages? And I said, which one of you is the most sensitive one? She goes, I am.

And she goes, but she gets them. I said, look, they're not going to send you a sign if they know it's going to upset you or make you sad. They take their cues from you. Just say, mom, dad, child, I'm ready. I'm open any way you want to come through. Because I believe that from the years of doing this, too. They take their cues from you. They know.

And if they can't get through to you, they're going to go to somebody else to get the message to you. Yeah. Yeah. Or they'll keep trying other things. That's right. Yeah. And so what happens? What is your understanding of where we go and what happens to us when we die? Well, in my book, Bridging Two Rounds, Learn How to Communicate with Your Lovers on the Other Side,

you know when you write a book, I don't know, how many books you have, Laura? I just finished my 11th. Okay. Okay. You got it on me. I have five big books and one tiny little book, right? This is the tiny one, 101 Ways to Jumpstart Your Intuition, which is on print, though. I figured it was perfect for this, right? When my mom was passing, because I'm a medium and her mom also was intuitive, my grandmother Rose on the Italian side, the word psychic or medium wasn't used. It was just grandma knows things.

Be careful what you think because she'll know. And it's true. So my mom, the reason why I was saying that, setting that up is because my mom knew what I, I mean, she was glad. I was always like this as a kid, the different one. So before she passed, I told her what it was like. She would see me at the different shows too, right? so that's the before what it's like during the passing and what happens to them afterwards yeah

right so that's where the belief is too and my mom is sick and the other side knows right the other side knows and that's where you have deathbed visions where people start seeing somebody and they don't have to be gonna pass away that day a week before two weeks before they start seeing something yeah you know this too right where they say god my dad visited me today and then the kids So the doctor's like this, okay, medication, but they're not on hallucinogenic, right? So, and the reason why that happens, Laura, is because when the body is ready to pass, right, you're a physical being and a spiritual being, you have to be both, right? Or try to honor both sides of you, because if not, you live in a life half-lived if you

only live one of them, right? So you're becoming, the physical body is starting to go, but the psychic side of you is coming up the psychic side, which can reach the other side and they can reach you. That's why it happens. You're becoming, because you're going more into the psychic world. Leaving your body a little more. Yeah, exactly. Right. And then I think that when it comes to same thing you hear from everybody now, knowing Anita Mojani, that's why I love working with this woman. When I met her, when she came into hair, I said, wait a minute, you've been there. You know what happens. I'm a medium. and let's work together. So we'd have many times. But I take my cues from, it's not just what they

tell me. When people have passed away, and there's a number of them, that's who I listen to also. You know, when they say the tunnel, the light, I don't want to have to have a near-death experience. I'll go when it's my time, officially, right? So I think that there are people there, and no one goes home alone, ever, ever, ever. And you might have said, Lauren, you've sadly lost your son, but all my parents are here, my husband's parents, who's there? There's always somebody there, whether it's a fast passing or a slow passing. So don't ever worry, mom, dads, kids, that your loved ones or your parents, you know, they're not alone. And I love when people say, are they okay, John? Yeah, they're fine. We're not. I feel like they're better than we are.

Exactly. And a lot of people say this too, Laura, okay? They said, well, if it's so beautiful, long because some mediums will say how beautiful it is the colors the peace the love some people might who are sad may say who missing loved one then i'm going to go over i'm going to do i'm going to go over myself right now no the other i heard john edward say this once too who was a colleague of where he's a colleague we know each other he said the other side is not meant to be an invitation isn't that beautiful the other side is not you have to do your work here all right what you're supposed to do because when you pass away and you if you choose to go that way there's a lot of, you got to still deal with a lot of stuff over there too. But I know that on the

other side, right? Having past life regressions, you know, Brian Weiss, I'm so blessed that the other side, they're okay. And, and I really think that they can do whatever they want. Like that movie, What Dreams Make Time, Laura? I remember them. The part where the woman's in the mud, that's, you know, and I really believe that when you go to the other side, you are your own judge and jury, right? I believe there's different levels to the spirit world too, right? Do I believe in clouds and the guy with the beard or this? No, but I believe there's levels, right? So what you do here, I feel that when you go to the other side, you'll experience all the good you've done, the people's lives that you don't even know you've touched, the ripple effect, and also the

negative stuff that you might feel, that hurtful thing that you did, or those words, right? So I think you're your own judge and jury on the other side. I really, really do. I feel that way too. most of us have no idea how to move through loss there's no roadmap to follow when you're trying to navigate grief and I realized this when I lost my son three years ago as a therapist who understood grief a whole new level of pain opened up to me when I lost my 16 year old son and since then I have been building resources that have allowed me to navigate through loss not only in a healthy way, but in a way that has transformed me for the better.

We can move through the most terrible loss with grace. And that's why I have created the course, Good Grief, Healing from Loss with Love. You can find it on my website, drlauraberman.com, right there on the homepage, as well as free resources, letting you know how to support others who are going through loss.

None of us has to do this alone. So many of the near-death experiencers and mediums that I've spoken to say the same thing. You know, they concur with you, that there's a sort of life review where you feel everything that you have ever made anyone else feel, good, bad, and in between. That's right. But you're supported. You're not like sitting there in hell. You know, you're supported and held, and you process it. And it's part of your soul's evolution to learn the lessons that you were meant to learn here.

Yeah, I think about that a lot because a lot of the grievers, I never really thought, mostly, I don't know why. I think I'm just not a particularly, at least I've always struggled with depression, but I've never been suicidal. And even after Sammy left, I've shared this before too, but I had this crazy, I'm curious what you think about this because somebody told me, I don't really think it was this, but someone told me it was a version of a shared death experience. This was like a week after he died.

I was sitting on the beach trying to just breathe. And I heard this. I've always known things and seen things, but I had never heard something before. But this very loud male booming voice said, who was not there in person. I understand. It was empty. Did you hear it internally? Internally.

Okay. Yeah. Okay. Do you want to live or die? Yeah. And I immediately knew what that question meant and that it didn't mean, do I want to kill myself? Because that wasn't even as much pain as I was in. That just wasn't a table. But I knew because when my mother died almost 10 years earlier, I had not I was filming a show for Oprah. I was busy. I didn't want to grieve. I didn't want to feel it. I couldn't didn't have time for it. And within a year, she had died of breast cancer. There was no genetic connection. Hers was for other reasons. But I had at 40, I had breast cancer in the same breast she did within a year of her dying. And I knew even back then, and I wasn't even really that awake back then, that it was related to not letting myself process the pain. Right. And the dis-ease. I'm not saying anyone who doesn't grieve properly will get cancer. But in my case, that was the path. And so that was what I thought of when I heard that voice. And also I thought of I could just stop living. Not that I will kill myself, but I could give up on life, which so many of us do. So when I was asked that question, I said, yes, I do want to live.

And then, and this is what I'm curious about, I had physically, emotionally, visually, on every possible sense, I experienced like this flash of every millisecond from the time I was an egg to that sperm eating the egg to now, through the lens of what a miracle my life, to have a life. Like I could feel inside me this. It's even impossible to describe the amount of joy and love of the miracle it is to have a life. Yeah. And it was instantaneous and I was flooded with it and it felt infinite and also instantaneous. And then I said, yes, I get it. Yes. I was crying like it was so beautiful. I was like, yes, I want to live. And then it gave me instructions of how, OK, you got to do this or you're going to die, which is a second part two of the story. But I want to ask you, because someone said that's a shared death experience. I thought that a shared death experience, you kind of experience going to the other side with the other person for a moment as they, that's not what this felt like. That's their death experience, there's after death communication, ADCs, and then there's deathbed visions.

Shared death experience, from my experience, from Raymond Moody, okay, another one. I'm so blessed to know these people, right? Shared death experience is something that's not too, is talked about too much. It's when somebody passes. And Laura, have you ever been with someone at the time of their passing? Many. Both my parents. Some people find it tragic, sad, or a blessing.

To me, when my mom passed, it was the most beautiful experience because I felt her loved ones come in. And I wasn't John the medium. I was John the son. I felt four people come in the room. And they were my brothers, and I knew she was leaving. But I think that she had that experience from Raymond Moody and others is when they go to the other side, doctors have experiences, nurses, hospice workers, you go up into the light, you go with them. Yeah. And you're starting to see, it's not like Superman, you're flying up there, but your consciousness is going, kind of, I'd be a little nervous maybe if it was, but you come back.

So you're almost, you're starting to see. Kind of escort them out. Right. And something happens, too, apparently. Apparently on a quantum physics level, something happens to the room, like the room starts to start shifting or something on a molecular level or something, not like Star Wars or a freaky thing. Something happens. So that's from what I understand. What was this, by your understanding? Well, what you had? Yeah. Yeah, it could have been a guide. It could have been an angel. Okay.

And I don't, and I'm not, you know me, but you don't know me. I'm not a foo-foo medium like unicorns and butterflies and the guides. I believe in all that. I believe in guides. I believe in angels. And it could have been your soul. And a lot of people say, John, who was that? Does it matter?

You know what I mean? It felt right, right? And you acted on it. Once again, you said, okay. And it's true. Anita Mojani has said this too. You don't have to die to begin living. And some people don't look at your life.

first of all i do a lot of work with the soul i'm not just a medium with people that have passed i do a lot of work with the soul believe it or not everyone you chose to be here within you is a seed that's been planted in your soul it's a gift talent and ability that's meant to be shared with others and look at you right some people may know you only as the sex magic person right but you're so much more so your ability your gift okay some people like well is it my career as are you what Are you a therapist too, Laura? Yeah. Is that the ability?

You're being known, Laura Berman, using your celebrity side of you to help people with the grief. That's the gift and ability that you're sharing on this podcast and with others and at workshops. Do you see? So you are meant to be here. Believe it or not, people, you chose to be here. Sometimes it sucks. I understand. You're like, why did I?

You know what I mean? Why the hell did I sign up for this? Exactly. Right. And, and I know there's a lot of stuff happening in the outside world too. If the outside world is getting to you, everyone, my thing is here, just pull back to your heart and just say, there I am. There I am. Because I said to an author friend of mine recently, and I said, is this helping the stuff that I'm teaching with all the stuff that's going in the world? She said, John, you got to keep doing what you're doing. You got to feed the collective. Yes, we need it. And I remember the Maharishi who has in Fairfield, Iowa, the big meditation. He was the one that basically brought transcendental meditation to this country. And they did these studies that if just one percent of the people in a city started meditating together with heartfelt, open hearted intentions every day, it changed the depression, the crime rate, the conflict, everything in that city started to change. That's quantum physics, too. So one of us living in peace and light and spreading that and helping other people activate that, even for moments a day, not that any of us can live there 24-7, I really believe helps lift everyone around us up on an energetic level. Not people we even know or are in the room with, just it changes the energetic frequency of the land and the people around us. Yeah, that's why I say that with subjects like this, I tell people everyone's exactly where they're supposed to be. In other words, you take a psychic development workshop or mediumship workshop, which is more than just one workshop, obviously, but you can't force this on anyone. if they see here something's working in your life Laura or that things are flowing with you

and then they ask you what are you doing that's different you just seem to be more at ease things are manifesting for you then I think it's good to share because if you try to force this on someone one you don't know the belief system two and if you just want to help people don't you like you see some family members and you know I'm one of five kids right they're just like oh that's him doing his thing. They don't read my books. They don't, don't do affirmations. They don't follow anything that I do as much as I'd love to help them with that. They're not ready for it. That soul needs to learn their own lessons. You understand? So whether it's the good, the good and the negative ones also. So, yeah. So be a good example. Yeah. And let's talk about

this idea of like soul groups and soul contracts while we're on the, on the idea of, you know, your soul came here. I like to joke like my, you know, I've always been a brown nosing student sitting in the front of the class. So they were like, okay, who wants to be abused as a child? Who wants to have a kid who has cancer? Who wants to get cancer themselves? Who wants to have a kid die? You know, and I was like, me, me, me on the soul side. I was like all gung ho. I'm sort of done, done for anyone listening. Any more soul growth lessons. I'm here to just expand in more peaceful ways now. But I do think, I remember Dolores Cannon once saying, some people kind of sign up for soft lives, she called it, but we don't know what those souls have already been

through. And we don't know what they're going to go through. And others of us came for a really freaking bumpy ride for our soul's purposes. So I'm wondering if you can speak to that a little bit and also soul groups. Yeah. I mean, when it comes to that, I mean, some other authors are more expert when it comes to the word soul contracts, but I know it's hard. Okay. I really know it's hard. Right. I was raised in a very abusive alcoholic home. Right. And I talked about my dad in my first book and some comment on Amazon was, you know, when you first look at them, Laura, when your first book comes out, you shouldn't. Right. He's like, why does he have to out his dad? Because if I didn't live in that trauma or that turmoil in there, I had to know

what was going to happen in the house every night. Yeah. I think that's why a lot of people end up cultivating their gifts as to survival. Exactly. Exactly. So when that happens, you were asking about, you know, I know it's hard to say, I chose this. I chose this. And like you, who lost a son, right? But look what you're doing. You're helping from that loss. You're helping thousands. I know a woman, one of my very first readings, they were, her daughter graduated high school. It was graduation time. They went to an amusement park and the toboggan right with water so the students held back the boat inside the tunnel right so the water backed up and it collapsed the only one who passed away okay the name was quimby she which means life

giving isn't that weird she was called quimby so she passed away and the mother because of that passing went on to congress to for safety laws in amusement parks more better safe now and I don't try to explain it away you know the expression everything happens for a reason yes and no right I believe things happen for a reason but I love that saying and I hate that saying because how can I tell my mother who lost a child it happened for a reason it's oh they're yeah okay right so I think that from her loss look what look what she has done how many lives were saved exactly yeah I think about that a lot with Sammy I had a moment I was in some deep I don't remember if I was being guided.

Is he your oldest? He was my middle. Okay. I don't know if I was in meditation by myself or being guided, but I somehow, I think I was starting to work on this book. People had talked to me about writing this book. I wasn't ready. I didn't want to be one of those people.

I was like, oh, my kid just died three months later. I'm going to write a book about grief. So I definitely wasn't ready, even though I understood grief already from my other, this was on another level. But now I was finally ready. And just through a whole weird serendipitous or perhaps not way, I ended up being offered this book contract to write this book. And I was meditating. And he came in, as he often does, not always. And I said, Sammy, are you supposed to help me write this book? and he kind of looked at me with this because I could see him in my mind's eye. He looked at me with this look

like he used to look at me like, mom, you're a freaking idiot. Like, what are you? And he looked, gave me that look. He's like, mom, I was always supposed to write this book with you. Wow. And it still gives me chills

because I would have never made that shit up in my mind. But it also really hit home like, oh yeah, we planned this a long time ago. way before, not that I was going to write this book per se, but we had this contract for lack of a better word, agreement, intention, whatever you want to call it, right. To come here. That's right. You would be the kid and I would be the mom and you would leave and it would impact me this way to impact your brothers that way. It would impact your dad this way. It would impact all the people that we're going to touch. So is that what you mean when, I mean, that's what I

think of when I think of soul. It is too. And you know, it's okay, right? You're not going to use spiritual bypassing right i love that that was people like well what's that it's so it's like when you're up for a job you've worked there longer but they give it to somebody else right and you say well i guess the universe has bigger plans yeah i'm not gonna let myself feel angry and frustrated and spiritual bypass it is using something using a spiritual law i mean using spiritual terms and terminology and ways to avoid something that's emotional it's okay to say you know what i really deserve that job this sucks it's okay to express your failings right so and when it comes to that too it's uh i really believe that we may not understand some of the choices or

the soul you do know when you go over there you get the bigger picture you're right i believe you get the bigger picture like okay but it's it's kind of hard because you don't get it to you over there unless you're aware so in with you and you said sammy and i planned this okay it feels right to you, right? You're like, you know what? Yeah. You're not trying to make it fit for your own grief, right? And mediumship, by the way, cannot take away grief. But if we can show that a little piece of the continuity of life, then fantastic. And I really do believe as far as soul groups answering that. Soul groups are when you come back with the same people. And people are like, what? Over and over again? Yes. But you may become back as someone's, like, I know this,

i did this i did a regression once really fast yeah in this life my mom's passed and i was one that took care of her even as a kid i was always worried about her got her the assisted living the nursing care the funeral the service i did it right so and she passed from a lung disease right so i went back and i'm in a shack i think it's like 1800s i'm a preacher i'm like of course i'm preacher a preacher a teacher or something still again and again but this time I'm the preacher and my daughter who's taking care of me as a little girl as like 14 16 was my mother right so in this life right so I had a lung disease too all right in that life in that life and I know you're like well how do you know this is real John that you're making it up because Brian Weiss was

right beside me. And just when I said this, I'm a minister, how can I have kids in my mind? He said, don't try to talk yourself out of anything. Just go with it. I'm like, is he in my head? Is he in there with me? So, and so it's funny. So in that life, my daughter took care of me and this life I took care of her, but she was my mom. The roles were reversed. Different roles. Yeah. I did a past life regression with Brian Weiss, not in person, but one that he guided. And I went back and I saw that my eldest son was my brother in this life. And we were escaping some pogrom or something, some like these marauders came into this Eastern European town where we lived and we're setting it on fire. And I could see us running through

the woods and walking by a train track for days, hiding out with no food or water. And it was starting to get really bad. And so I left him to try to go get help. And I ended up getting picked up and brought to this woman who took me in and I never told. And when I finally got to go back, he was gone. And I ended up and we had a lot of issues. He had a lot of issues. And I ended up sharing this with him. And this was when he was maybe 14, 29. Still to this day, if something comes up, he's like, I'm not the one who abandoned me in a pogrom, mom. He pulls it back on me. I, like you, believe that we live many, many, many, our souls live many lives and we just keep working it out in different ways and in different roles. And this is the movie and that side is more real

than this side. That's what I believe. And you know, too, on a deeper level, people like, if it's so beautiful that why do we even reincarnate? And I say, too, that we should get an award to come here right but the soul that spiritual being okay not physical to come into this dense molecular body yeah experience life through these eyes through human emotions love pain anger the soul involves everyone that's why we keep doing it over and over it's the involvement that is the mission of the soul is for fulfillment to evolve as a soul and it's going to keep happening i think you do have a choice i don't i know for me that i'll be a guide for a while i don't want to come right you need a break you know what i mean yeah give me a chance

yeah i'm curious what you think or what your experience has been talking to as many souls or communicating with as many souls as you have do we kind of maintain the essence of our personality so let's talk about that good question again i can put two things together with that a lot of people say so how does reincarnation work how do they if they're over on the other side then how can a medium? So a woman came to me once and she said, she sits down in the chair, right, right in this room. And she goes, I don't think this is going to work. That's the first thing she said. I said, okay, yeah. Why? And she said, because I went to another medium and the medium said that my mom is already reincarnated and she's never going to be able to reach her. And I said,

well, who's Helen? She goes, that's my mother. I said, let's go. Right. So this is what I think happens. Okay. The soul is multidimensional, Laura, right? It's multidimensional. We think it's like this one piece here you know like a it can only be in one place at one time right exactly when you pass over look at it this way say that this here this is the a hard drive of a computer right so here's the oversold the bigger part of Laura Berman okay the big part right so it's playing the Laura Berman show right now okay well you know what I mean Laura Berman it's when that life is done many years from now that folder will go back into the hard drive another piece of your this soul will come out of somewhere else in time so but the the part of you that has always

been Laura Berman I can access because it's a piece of your whole soul and I don't get confused like well look I don't do past lives and oh Laura did you know I mean there were some mediums that do that but I look at it that way so the soul is multi-dimensional it's in the past it's in the present like when you have deja vu you're like what is that the present self spirit soul is catching up with the the future one it's really bizarre when that happens they're the different dimensions exactly and brian weiss said this once too brian weiss said and i'm not name dropping these are people that taught me i i always say where i get things from right you know give them the credit that's due he said how do you know they're not on different galaxies and universes

we don't we don't and you have to realize to everyone just a piece of your soul is inside you not the whole thing it's up here and that's why i teach people to call it's called soul shift to to go up to the essence because we're taught to take the energy and bring it down where you open it up and that's what it's called the soul shift right and when i'm doing readings laura i'm looking at someone like i'm you but i'm not here anymore i'm here and i just that's what i was gonna ask you because i'm always fascinated how because mediums access a different way but all of them either raise the vibration enough of their body to meet the spirits who are vibrating so high already beyond what a human could normally do so they can meet us in the middle or they leave

a little bit so like i've always envisioned my soul like a giant sun and this laura here right now is one thread one ray of that sun and what sounds like you're saying is that you go up the ray to the sun to access all the other suns that's right and which means to me there's a big soul there right which is which is connected to the divine to god to he she you know that is but i love that you know this aren't you a wise woman and everyone i've never met this woman before but what i feel like i could have a cocktail with you for hours right when i do this work i was taught this i trained as a medium for two and a half years in england i didn't just take a workshop up and pop up the website because there's a huge responsibility and i think too many people are

doing that but you're taught those on the other side they lower their vibration vibration and i raise mine right you're like well how do you do that right it could be music it could be dancing it could be whatever um so laura is right they meet in the middle and that's called the blending process they're blending with my soul now and that's the same thing in case you ask me well can People connect to other loved ones themselves. Yes. Yes. Invite them in.

In other words, when I do mediumship on my R-expands and I'm just there and I just, I don't judge. I don't, I've been doing it for too long, right? And they're the ones that are doing the work. I'm just a good vessel and I'm a Sagittarius. So I don't, I have a mouth, right? And I, and I put my foot in it many times too, but it makes me a good medium, you know, not to, to block the flow of something that's coming in.

so when you do this you open up your aura so you're sitting you want to connect with your loved one go to a room you've got to get quiet light a bolt of candle dollar store cheek lamp okay put the happiest picture of them in front of you eyes are the windows to the soul correct the happiest picture because that's how they are now too many people if you've lost someone that was sick or an accident that might be the only thing that how you remember them and they have come through especially women and said please tell my daughter not to remember me this way all right okay and so when you do that you light the candle you just get quiet invite them in in your mind sammy expand your aura step in it's okay no matter what i'm not afraid i'm ready you may

feel a heat you might talk is oh the vent must be coming through you smell a cologne who's using Sammy's cologne because we're talking ourselves out of it you might experience a kiss you might experience a breeze and you're going to say oh it's the fan on accept it guys because they're not going to just too many people think um some people say this why is it your why can't my mom just show up in front of me well Laura come on if you're your mother your grandmother if they just show up in front of you what's going to happen you die your hair would turn white you'd be sketch. Yeah. So invite them in and ask for the signs. And how do you expand? I mean, I can imagine as I'm listening to you, but just for my peeps here, how do you expand your aura? I'm sure

there's a whole art to this. I know you're not going to explain. It's not difficult. A lot of people think it's like, do I have to do this like a mind? You know what I mean? Push down from the body. Right. Okay. And I'll do it with you too. This is what I teach people in my community, in my in my uh programs too all right so if you're looking at me right okay so stay right at me okay now all right now i want you to put your awareness to without looking okay put your awareness to the right side of the on the right side of your of a wall okay you see that okay i feel okay you're there you're not you're just there now keep your eyes straight now go to the other side of the wall to the left or the right the opposite of what you just did yeah okay now i want you to just think

above you, above your head. Just put your awareness there. So your awareness is going there and so is your aura too. Do you play the guitar? I do not. Who did it? My youngest is a big guitar player. Right. And is it bass and the other one? Yes. Yeah. Okay. Because I see it standing in the corner, which always means how old is the kid? He's 20. Okay. Is he still doing it or did he put it down for a while he's he well he's not doing it as much he's when i see it against the wall it means pick up the guitar again i'll give him the message yeah pick up the guitar okay so so he must be he's probably talented at it then he's very talented but he's in college and he's trying to think you know music production and trying to think more in terms of making a

living so he hasn't and he's been doing more of that than playing he used to be in a band but he hasn't been playing well how beautiful that he has laura berman and your husband as parents because some parents are like musicians it's a hard life an artist forget it's too much competition get a job get the 401k work behind the desk and do it do it do a keyboard because you're listening to somebody else's story and what stops one of the number one thing that stops us is listening to somebody else's story amen well my husband and my mantra has been since our son young or his bigger brother because he's our there's a daughter in here too no there's no daughter oh wow yet but I have been having these dreams and I'm sure it's not mine because I'm

definitely post-menopausal but I keep seeing this little girl in my dreams she's like two or three years old I have no maybe she's a grandchild hopefully not too soon but I keep seeing a little girl but you never know the law you don't know how with some when I feel like someone's going to be a mother now the girl that I feel for you too it could be a grandkid too or I know you may say, well, no way. Some people say to psychics, no way that'll never happen. Then they call us a year or two later and say, guess what happened? You don't know how a little girl can come into your life. It happened any number of ways. You know, you might say, you know what, we're going to foster this poor kid, this poor little girl, or you don't know. Yeah. There's definitely a

little girl around. I've definitely been feeling that. And one of the things I was saying that we now say, which has allowed us to, I think part of the reason we're like, whatever makes you happy is he's alive. So that's, that's all that matters. Like we want him to just, all of them to just live and be happy and find their joy and be at peace and be in flow and whatever it is. It really puts things in perspective. Yeah. And getting back to that part about intuition and feeling, I always say too, when you acknowledge that feeling you get, if it's an intuitive hit, Laura, right? So you have a big decision we're always um you ever send that text you're like oh i wish i didn't send yeah and then you can't pull it back sometimes you know there's some program you can pull it back

and then intuition is this you're about to just text away to someone's anger in order these texts but something in your head says do you really want to send that that's your intuition guys okay you're driving down the road and you hear slow down now is it god is it your vote is it intuition Is it a guy? Who cares? If you're hearing slowed down, listen to that, right? And then trust that. And know whether you're clairvoyant to see.

Some people see things too. Some people feel clairsentient, which is the biggest. People with clairsentient, they walk into a room. I don't like the feel of the couch. I don't like the feel of that picture there as opposed to clairvoyance. I don't like the look of the couch there. I don't look. And clairaudience is the difficult one because you ever hear your name being called and nobody's

there? scares me i'm like john what right and that's that's objective that's outside your head and inside all right i don't when i get a voice inside my head from a loved one it's not like this hello john my name is abdul i've been with you for thousands of years so it's not it's in my voice try to figure out which one you well maybe that voice i heard on the beach was an outside voice because it was definitely not my voice yeah but it's not like you heard it from another room, right? No, I mean, it felt like a loud, I was alone on the beach, so I don't know, but it was a loud booming voice. I think it was inside my head. Before you make a decision,

always pause and ask, how do I feel about this? How do I feel about making this decision before I do it? Always pause and ask before you act, right? Don't forget the ABC. Yeah. My therapist used to always say to me, just run it through your seven chakras before you open your mouth, Laura. There you go. There you go. And, you know, and trust it. Yeah. All right. So you're kind of diving into this a little bit, but let's put it in a, in a nice, easy to digest format. What would be five ways to strengthen your intuitive connection? Okay. So you remember what I said, you know, the ABCs, they can list out how that goes. Okay. Also believe that, there is intuition. That's the first. Believe it, guys, okay? Stop talking yourselves out of it.

Believe in intuition. Another easy way is the red, is the streetlight theory, all right, the practice. If you have a decision to make, okay, just put yourself in that spot. Remember you're looking at me, but not me. You start getting that daydream, okay? This person asked me to be on their show. How do I feel about this? Now, you may get, well, how do you, it's just a streetlight. You might get red. No. Green. Yes. Yellow. Pause. Right. So you're going to say this. I play Diffel's advocate. So it's the Laura Berman show. I've been asked to go on the Laura Berman show. How do I feel about this? Oh, green. Yeah. Yeah. Someone's going to say, how do you know you're not making it green? Because there's going to be something, whether it's a job that's

perfect for you. And you're going to say, well, what's the point? But it's red. And you're like, wait a minute so it will it really doesn't it's flash don't change the light look you know what i mean don't change like you gotta listen to it when you see yellow means not now okay and another tip have you ever had a waiter or a server person wait on you and it's almost like they're doing you a favor like they're they're in a very bad mood or you meet someone your boss snaps at you well and then you're like well what the hell are you just pause take a moment put yourself in their shoes meaning okay just okay wonder what just ask oh they're going through a divorce the kid just left home well there's something you see guys it's not about you sometimes that's another thing that

you can do and like i said you got the red light one you also have the uh know what the three clairs are, and always pause and ask. That's one, two, three. I think we did probably more than five. Play with it. Play with it. My mom used to do this. Little did I know, she was giving me some type of practice. She would just say, pick a number one to 10, Johnny. And I'd be like, seven, yes. Now, I don't know if I was right all the time, but she made it fit. If you work in an office building or you live in an office or high rise or whatever, and there are three elevators, which one's going to go first stand in front of it and see now all of us do this doesn't mean i'm good at it everybody just because i do this for a living laura said over 30 years i still

mess up supermarkets which line is going to move the fastest right so what do i do yourself up if you get it wrong this is just don't beat yourself up but learn but this is what i do i look at the cashiers. Don't go what they look like if they're younger or older. Trust, is it this one or this one? Because I have a tendency to let my outside eyes chew sometimes. So I have to say, you know, play with it also. Use the red, green, yellow one. Understand the ABCDs of intuition. Play with it and first believe it and let go of how we are portrayed on television, guys, because we all have it. And someone will say, well, what's the difference between intuition and psychic ability? Intuition, we look at it as that one-off that comes every once in a while, right?

Okay, and it's an inner feeling. Psychic is outside, kind of, you know? So, but I look at it this way, to keep it simple. Intuition, psychic ability is taking intuition and making it work for you, as opposed to, oh, I just got this intuitive hit out of the blue. Yeah, and trust synchronicity, guys. So it's intentional intuition. It's like you're directing it.

Yeah, and trust synchronicity, and don't explain it away. everyone your soul intuition is the language of the soul and your soul will attract to you your soul knows what you want but more importantly it knows what you need and it's going to attract that uh what you need also and you know about the power of thought too so you got words and thoughts are quite powerful so you have a pleasure to be interviewed by laura burman well i just saw her on the tv shows promoting your book so thrilled to have you and uh i should invite you into my community also yeah i would love to come on yeah talk about my new book i'll talk about i can talk about the six pillars of healing and also all i've learned through people

like you who have been so generous with us and me with your time and wisdom about how to how to continue that relationship with them i'm so grateful to you well i'm slowing down a little too as far as i mean because it's it's been i've been picking it you know what i mean so when Somebody called me a pioneer in the business the other day. I'm like, oh, God, I felt so old. What do you mean? He goes, you don't consider yourself a pioneer? Because I was there when James came out or John or George Anderson, like way back when.

And I wrote about my experience in England and brought it back here to America, too. That's why I do My Soul Community, right? It's a group of like-minded people. I'll invite people like us, new thought leaders, life coaches, to learn about remote viewing, channeling. And you're like, well, how is that going to help you in the outside world? Because once you understand the inner workings, it can be used on the outside also. And these teachers, they're amazing. So if they want to know anything about that, Laura, it's mysoulcommunity.com.

And we just open, depending on this place, the doors just open. We eventually have to close them to keep it intimate as possible. But you're a pleasure. And I love that you do your work, that you currently do it. I love the grief stuff that you're doing. and you were an absolute pleasure. And you're kind of pretty too, Laura Berman. Thank you very much.

Thank you. That was beautiful. So we'll put that in the show notes, your soul community, your books, your website. And we are so grateful to you for sharing time with us and sharing your wisdom and all you do. Thank you. Thank you.

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