Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - “A Friendsgiving Episode” (w/ Matt & Bowen)

Episode Date: November 27, 2024

Stuff yourself alongside your hosts Matt & Bowen for a culture catch-up! The two friends hold space for discussion on the hot wings on Hot Ones, awards season, the Coachella lineup, recent outings... to Broadway, and Shrek culture. All this, category fraud at the Oscars, Bravo thoughts, Domingo at the Short n Sweet tour, and why the Wicked press tour is exactly what it needed to be. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:36 Let's dive into the eerie unknown together. Sleep tight, if you can. Listen to Haunting on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey everybody, it's me, Matt Rogers, letting you know tickets are on sale now to see me on tour. The Prince of Christmas tour, that is. I'm doing my whole album, Have You Heard of Christmas? plus a lot more with the whole band all throughout December. Go to www.mattroggersofficial.com to see me in a city near you. And now, Las Culturistas.
Starting point is 00:03:10 Look Matt! Oh I see! Wow! Bowen look over there! Wow is that culture? Yeah goodness! Las Culturistas! Ding dong, Las Culturistas calling! This is breaking bread culture. We are breaking absolute ciabatta, baguette, focaccia tonight. Can we say cheers? Cheers! It's the Friendsgiving episode of Las Culturistas. How about that? It's giving friends, you are all invited, you know, auditorily, in a sense.
Starting point is 00:03:44 Don't come to my house, please. There's not room. It would be too much if you guys all came over. But one at a time. One at a time, please. You're invited to one at a time. I'll be whole up, face down. Oh my God, now you're getting horny.
Starting point is 00:03:57 Not you insinuating you like to be stuffed before all this stuffing. Girl! Come on. I like to be sniffied and sniffed. Have you ever gone on sniffies? Oh, of course I browse. I'm not, I don't have the gumption, the bravery
Starting point is 00:04:10 to the braverism to post up on it. To literally post on things. Yeah, I've never downloaded sniffies. I've never went there. You know my story. How to download it to a website. Oh, is it a website? A mobile browsing experience.
Starting point is 00:04:23 You are so innocent. I'm so, yeah. I'm You are so innocent. I'm so... I'm like the young Do. I'm like the young lamb. Young lamb. A female deer. A female deer! Uh, wait, that would be a good rendition. Yes! Do, a deer, a female deer! Yes! But isn't that kind of... No, it's not beside the point because Do is still the... Like, Do-re-mi-fa... It's... What are you trying to get at?
Starting point is 00:04:50 What I'm trying to get at is if you sort of did alterations with that melody, it was sort of like... No, as long as you hit the Do... As long as you hit each first note. Exactly. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't worry. Please, take the liberty. Do-a-deer! Yes!
Starting point is 00:05:02 I'm so happy this is now a music theory podcast. Oh my God. What's your experience of music theory? That shit is hard. I don't know how y'all memorized the circle of fits. You know what? For you musical music theory girls. It's actually something I never thought I'd be able to understand.
Starting point is 00:05:17 And now I'm in my, I'm in three times a week vocal lessons getting ready for this tour. We can hear it. You sound great. And I'm now understanding, oh, it's just about like, it's just something to learn. It's something to learn, it's math, it's something to have at the back of your head. Right.
Starting point is 00:05:30 Do you think you could develop perfect pitch? I think you could hear a tone and then call it out, I'd be like, that's an A sharp. You definitely could. No. No, you definitely could. I can call an A just cause I grew up with, one of my only toys as a young cable-less child
Starting point is 00:05:43 was the metronome, you see. So you're just playing around with the metronome. So you go, A! Was that May? I think that's an A. Readers' Key is Puppets is Finalists. Perfect pitchers. For anyone to have perfect pitch, you're a finalist.
Starting point is 00:05:59 Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Speaking of finalists, tons of finalists kind of storming the culture. Look at this list of things that have happened in pop culture. Look at this list. Oh my God. Wait, you see what's number two?
Starting point is 00:06:11 No, let me see. Bowin' on Hot Ones. Bowin' on Hot Ones. Let's talk about it. You have to talk about your experience. Well, do you want to go in order on the list? Well, literally, the first thing is, this is what I wrote down. Wicked is out, critically beloved, huge at the box office. Hold space for that.
Starting point is 00:06:25 Hold space with the lyrics. Hold space with the lyrics. Let's talk about that first. Because can I just say... Let's talk about it. Tracy Gilchrist, if you're listening, I've had the privilege of talking to Tracy before. She is a wonderful journalist. Mm hmm. She holds space.
Starting point is 00:06:39 She does. And that's exactly what she was doing. Yeah. And this was, again, important context. I think it's really vital for people to know that this was the week of the election. That was recorded the week of the election. Yes. Emotions were high, feelings were raw. Like, I think that really touched Cynthia. Even if Tracy only saw it on two posts.
Starting point is 00:06:57 Dude, that, the reveal that it was... It is! Well, I work in queer media, so I have seen a couple posts. The holding of the pinky, too. It's all funny to me. It's all so good. Everyone's having fun with it. And, you know, like, you're gonna get that moment in the press tour with a queer outlet, like, out, with someone like Tracy, who looked fabulous.
Starting point is 00:07:16 And she... She did. She looks great. And also, I just... I love that we all kind of got on board with it and lost our minds just a little bit. Because, God, Baldi and Dowd is out here posting and tweeting about... Baldi and Dowd is an icon. You know what my biggest regret is?
Starting point is 00:07:30 Best person on social media. I found out after the fact that she was trying to get in on the John Mulaney Chapel Rowan episode of SNL and I could have so easily gotten her ticket. Oh, that will be made up. Baldi and Dowd, we can make that up to you. We will make that up to you. Baldi and Dowd, any show you want this season,
Starting point is 00:07:44 please let me know. Would happily have you arrive, come. We will make that up to you. Bald and Down, any show you want this season, please let me know. Would happily have you arrive. Come, I'm so sorry I can't make chapel happen, but you are so important to the culture. Bald and Down, she's out here tweeting, this video is changing the way I talk. Yep. Was Bald and Down the one that was like, it's a language I don't understand, but they do? Someone was like, they are speaking a language fluently with each other that I do not speak and like breaking down every single thing of it.
Starting point is 00:08:08 The holding of just the pinky. Holding the accepting of the compliment as if she wrote the song. That's really powerful. That's really, that's what I wanted to happen. That's what I wanted to happen. Every element of it is part of a larger conversation that I want to have about the Wicked Press Tour, which is incredible. It is so funny and like it's amazing.
Starting point is 00:08:26 It is funny. And the fact that we will think back on this press tour. No, this is so fun. And the image we will have in our brains is Ariana wiping away at the air around her face so she doesn't cry. And that image of them running away from just like them hiding from their own tears serrates this press tour in the same way that there could be a hundred people in a room, serrated the Star Wars porn press door. We will always remember this press door. And if it's irritating you, honey, honey,
Starting point is 00:08:54 don't worry, it's gonna be over very soon. And we're gonna do it again. And we're gonna do it again next year. Who knows? Who knows? Who knows? But thank you so much for saying that. It's funny. It's so funny. Everyone's also like it is sitting next to the fact that they are both giving Oscar worthy performances. And now we can say it because now they've said it. They being all the critics and everything. Like I was saying in the beginning,
Starting point is 00:09:19 I was everyone that was kind of like being very gay about it and being like, it will be nominated for Oscar. It literally will. I was like, now let's not set a bar that's crazy high. Totally. everyone that was kind of like being very gay about it and being like it will be nominated for Oscar it Now let's not set a bar. That's sure sure crazy high totally, but then having seen it. I left being like oh this movies Got it like it can go the distance because it emotionally works it every emotional beat hits yes and the performances are very rich and the characters are Complex and dynamic, and you know, like...
Starting point is 00:09:46 The world is so fun. Yes, and now you're seeing, I think on Gold Derby as of today, Ariana is in the two spot in supporting actress, and Cynthia is at seven. And suddenly, that best actress category looks very crowded. Stacked. Stacked.
Starting point is 00:09:59 Stacked category. Can I just say one more thing about the... Of course. The crying? Yeah. We got to experience that individually... Yes. On this podcast, and let I just say one more thing about the crying? Yeah, we got to experience that individually. Yes. On this podcast.
Starting point is 00:10:08 And let's just say, like in the room, it gets you. Yeah. And it's and watching Cynthia tear up about this character that she obviously has has sat with for years. Yeah. Just let her. Yeah. Like she delivered.
Starting point is 00:10:22 Everything else is just fun is just fluff, basically. You know what I mean? It's actually Rilakkotcha number six. Let actresses be actresses. Let actresses be actresses. That's what they're gonna do. And it can confirm from us, I think, maybe being the first interview where there were tears shed.
Starting point is 00:10:39 And this wasn't even when they were together. We separately had them crying. No, we separated them. The emotions are real. They are very real. Like, I'm, am I out here just like crying? I was about to say, I'm not out here just like crying, but I guess I kinda am.
Starting point is 00:10:52 Anytime you do, it's so... It's real. It's real, it's wonderful, it's earned. I don't have the capacity to cry the way that I used to. Something's going on, it's just cause I'm tired. Oh, here we go. You feel too tired to cry? Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:04 See, when I'm tired, that's when it happens. Oh, fun, fun. I'm that. Oh, you feel tired to cry? Oh, yeah. See, when I'm tired, that's what it happens. Oh, fun. Fun. I'm that classic like, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, that's great. Let me I'm just going to veer away from the T word. The T word. Let's go. Let's move on. We're not holding space for T word. We're not holding space for T word.
Starting point is 00:11:18 I want to hear all about hot ones because, of course, all the conversation, you know, as it should be, is all about them doing their press tour. You have turned some L-E-W-K-S, and I specifically want to say kudos to you and the number one in the game. Michael Fisher. The number one. For what you wore on The Tonight Show, bitch. That suit was everything. Speak about that look. Thank you, Valentino. Head to toe, Valentino. Very good. They
Starting point is 00:11:46 they would not make a single concession adjustment because it's Valentino. They go, no, you're wearing head to toe Valentino. He's not wearing anything else. When a house says we're dressing you, you listen to a house. Oh my God. Period. I'm not, I am not pushing back. That was amazing. That was a great look. Michael Fisher, the king that you are. Dressing me for my tour. I mean, this man doesn't fuck around and dress Josh Neer and for the Dick's Press Tour. Dressing Sebastian Stan for all his stuff. By the way, can we say, can someone fucking nut up?
Starting point is 00:12:16 Maybe this will be my I Don't Think So Honey later. Yeah, yeah, yeah, hold on. But let me just say, like right now, actually, you know, hold space with it. I'm gonna hold space on this one. It's Sebastian Stan related at the end of the episode. But that's kind of how things to honey. Talk about hot ones.
Starting point is 00:12:28 So this is a dream. This is this is like such a cool opportunity. I'm hot, thus culture down. I did amazing. Thank you. That was so much fun. I left buzzing. My stomach lining was only ruined for like one day.
Starting point is 00:12:43 The rest of the day. And then I woke up the next day being like, oh, I feel fine. But it was an experience on the toilet later. Not even on the toilet. It was just like, because I had a full, like I had a day I was running around and then I was just like, oh, my stomach feels awful. So did you have more stuff to do after that?
Starting point is 00:12:57 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, so they say people that have done it were like, I'm so unhappy that I scheduled more things after that because of the way it fucked me up. You didn't experience all of that. I didn't experience it. I was just, my bowels were irritated and that was the syndrome. I had IBS.
Starting point is 00:13:11 I hear you. In that moment. And then just in general. I was worried about you as someone whose stomach is volatile. Wait, is this a thing about me? Because I have multiple people- I've shared a toilet with you in a room with you so many times. Sure.
Starting point is 00:13:23 Multiple people are like, you are king of my tummy hurts. And I'm like, I don't say those words. No, I don't think you ever say that. I just think you will have an intense bowel reaction. Well, I got my gut biome checked. There you go. What's the tea? I'm so, I'm overall fine.
Starting point is 00:13:38 I have a huge overpopulation of one fauna, which is a bacteria that creates all the gas. This is going to connect you with a lot of people. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Guys, this is not the first time I've said this. Look it up.
Starting point is 00:13:52 This is not sponsored. Flora.com F L O R E not.com. Um, just Google Flora. Got by. .gov. It should be. Well, in the Biden administration, because RFK Jr. sure ain't touching that.
Starting point is 00:14:06 No. We can't talk about it. But poop in a tube, send it in. It will show you the world. Oh, this is a callback to your poop in a tube. This is the poop in the tube. Oh, so this is what it ended up saying. Yes.
Starting point is 00:14:17 And it was very valuable information. Especially because you were going on the Hot Ones show. Yes. And I'm taking my, they custom made me prebiotic. How much of the experience was enjoyable from a taste perspective? So enjoyable. I would say they're all very good hot sauces,
Starting point is 00:14:33 except Da Bomb, which I always knew was that girl. When Charlize Theron described it as battery acid, I said, well, now I know exactly what I'm in for, and it was even worse than I thought. Even worse than battery acid. And there's no, I have some. Do you wanna try some? Oh, kinda.
Starting point is 00:14:46 Is it gonna ruin my night? They let you take it with you? Part of the gift bag, part of this bag bag is they give you one bottle of each. Do you want it? Are you kidding me? And we're having chicken tonight, right? We're having chicken tonight, but I-
Starting point is 00:14:58 Should I wait or should I do a little dab? Do you want to dab just a little bit? Yeah, let's do a little dab for the episode. Just one little dab, I don't want you- I swear to God? Yeah, let's do a little dab for the episode. Just one little dab. I don't want you. I swear to God, no, this is a huge moment. I don't have milk. I don't have milk.
Starting point is 00:15:11 You don't have any milk? You know what's funny about the milk of it all? I actually love drinking milk. Yes, me too. I love milk. So that would be one of my favorite parts of being on. It's the case in washes away the spice. Do you want to try it?
Starting point is 00:15:23 You know what? I'm actually not going to try it just because we have a full night of friends coming over and if I react badly, I don't want that. And also I'm going to hold space for my opportunity to one day do the show. Yes. No, Matt. And so I'm going to kick it down the... I can't wait for you to be honest. I'm going to kick this can manifesting it for myself that I one day get the opportunity to go do the show.
Starting point is 00:15:40 You will. Absolutely you will, Matt. You are literally the superstar of my life. Okay, that's enough. More on Sean Evans. And your flirty chemistry with him. Was there chemistry? I just find him to be so charming and he's so thoughtful, such a great interviewer. Readers, comment below if you think that there was chemistry. Clap if you think she should suffer.
Starting point is 00:15:59 Handsome guy. Very handsome man. He is. Very handsome. And I bet in person it's even better. Yeah, totally, but like, listen, you know me, like, when I see someone... I'm not a big flirt. Guy? Very handsome man. He is. Very handsome. And I bet in person it's even better. Yeah, totally. But like, listen, you know me, like when I see someone... I'm not a big flirt. You don't think?
Starting point is 00:16:11 Unless I really call my target, I'm like, I want to flirt with that person. Mm-hmm. I'm just like, no. I'm a big flirt. I know you are. Ooh! Hello? Who was that? Did someone knock?
Starting point is 00:16:22 Okay, while he goes and checks and sees if someone just knocked, even though it's an hour before someone is supposed to be here, I'm going to say, so he asked you actually, so it was all a great experience. You definitely were flirting. You said that he mirrors. He mirrors. So he, so whatever you choose. By the way, let's just get this out of the way. I chose tenders.
Starting point is 00:16:42 Yes, yes, yes. People were wondering. I love a way. I didn't want to deal with bones that day. Because then my fingers get too oily and it just becomes a hole. I think you inched even closer to legendary status when you chose tenders. Why do you say so? Because I feel like a lot of people don't do that. I feel like people are just like,
Starting point is 00:16:59 oh, no, I'll do the wing thing. Because I also think there is this ideology that you're going to go do the wing show and like Maybe this is like, you know the patriarchy speaking but it's like a real wing is on the bone But you queer culture you'll take it on the tender Absolutely take it on the tender plus it's it's a bigger bite. It's more surface area. Like yeah With a wing you're kind of just like what? Puncturing the skin with your teeth and then you nibble just a little bit off
Starting point is 00:17:25 and then it just kind of like, it's a little. I know something about a tender, it's like, you are. Yeah. I took some bites and I would not have done that with a wing. Did you eat a lot of them? Or is a bite of each a bite of each a bite of each? I ate about a half of each. And for some of them, like those early ones,
Starting point is 00:17:40 I was like, Little Dicks, it's the pear one. Yeah. Oh, that was interesting. I don't think I'd seen that one before. Pear and ghost pepper, pear and habanero. That's a wonderful sauce. I'm so excited to have it in my pantry. So you are one who has Dabam in your house now.
Starting point is 00:17:55 You have a weapon in your home. I have a weapon in my home. You don't need to get a gun. Oh yeah, someone comes into my house, I'm throwing that in their eye. It's Dabam on site, beyond insanity. Beyond insanity. It's that bad,omb on site. Beyond insanity. Beyond insanity. It's that bad, huh?
Starting point is 00:18:07 And the last dab, delicious. Really? Okay, good, good, good. Because it really does. It peaks at D'Bomb and then like the last dab is so delicious. But I noticed you did have a hard time with the second to last one too. Like it wasn't good after D'Bomb. It wasn't good. I would have tolerated it if the order had been the second to last.
Starting point is 00:18:24 If D'Bomb was the second to last. You know what I mean? Like, all the way up to Dabam, I was like, this isn't that bad. I love, you know, like my Szechuanese food. I love my spices. I look up hot sauce production videos when I'm eating a spicy meal at home by my lonesome. You were a legend on that. Thank you. I was so much fun. You were dragging your outfit, but I thought again, Michael Fisher killed it.
Starting point is 00:18:46 Michael Fisher, that was a wear shirt, so fun. Yeah, it was good. That was a great time. I'm so grateful I got to do it. And that whole crew, that staff there, loveliest people, the loveliest people in digital media. And we love First We Feast. A lot of people in the comments saying,
Starting point is 00:19:03 who is this guy? And I go really at this point This is my this is my thing. I go No one can possibly know who everyone is in the culture. Oh, yeah, I really don't think so Honey, not a thing of like I don't even know who this is. It's like, okay, I don't know who Half of the girls are and I don't know either. They're like it's not it's not a thing worth spending your thumb Muscle energy typing.
Starting point is 00:19:25 Also, it's like if you're commenting on a video, who is this person and the person you're talking about is in the video, maybe if you watch the video, you'll find a little bit more. Maybe you'll learn more about me. Maybe you'll learn more about the person that you're... Yeah, yeah, yeah. That you're in luck in terms of knowledge about. I thought it was a wonderful appearance.
Starting point is 00:19:43 Thank you. And when he asked you your Mount Rushmore of albums for the year. Oh, that was so... I did not leave out Brad, by the way. They cut around that. You definitely didn't have Brad in the episode. Yeah, like it was... People are calling me on it rightfully,
Starting point is 00:19:55 but I think what we must... What you must understand is that I did, of course, give Brad its flowers. Do you want to in an episode that we will not edit? Because this episode never has edits. Oh my gosh. edits every time. What is your actual Mount Rushmore of pop albums and their commitment before? So this will lead us into the Grammy nominations category.
Starting point is 00:20:12 I mean, because we didn't get to talk about it. Didn't get to talk about it. And things have since changed with Beyonce with this Christmas Yes. performance. Yes. So I'm very excited about that. Me too.
Starting point is 00:20:24 That does change things for me. I'm like, thank you. She's giving us a moment with Cow Christmas performance. Yes. So I'm very excited about that. Me too. And that does change things for me. I'm like, thank you. She's giving us a moment with Cowboy Carter. I would put Cowboy Carter up there. Brat for sure. See, this is where it gets hard. I got two more slots. I'm gonna say...
Starting point is 00:20:36 Short and sweet. Mm-hmm. Which did make it in the Hot Ones episode. And... I revisited this week because I'm just like, this woman has the number one movie, the number one album, has had a number one album this year and a number one single. Eternal Sunshine is still so fucking good.
Starting point is 00:20:50 Eternal Sunshine is fucking phenomenal. In fact, I was wearing like the sweatshirt the other day, and the merch goes off too. Oh yeah. Speaking of merch I have, Sabrina Carpenter, Short and Sweet. I'm happy you said it has now re-emerged back in the Mount Rush hour. Because I don't know why I put that against Eternal Sunshine. They're both excellent albums and very emblematic of the year. I went to the tour.
Starting point is 00:21:09 Please tell me you were there when Domingo was there. I was there when Domingo appeared. Was arrested. And he was arrested for being too hot. Like, the show was great. Of course it was. The show was so good. It's so funny.
Starting point is 00:21:21 Every song is good. Also, not only is every song on short and sweet good and obviously in the show, justice for tornado warnings. Oh, go back and listen to tornado warnings. Is it on the set list? Yes. Yeah, she knows. She knows how fucking good. It's like a really fun part of the show.
Starting point is 00:21:40 And just, I don't know, just the whole thing is a blast. Like Marcelo being out there as Domingo was so fun. You know what he did? You know what that guy did? Yeah. He flew out the writers, right? He spent his own coin and flew out the writers. Good.
Starting point is 00:21:52 And flew out on Kara and Hare, the amazing Kara and Hare. The wig maker. What a fun moment. It was great. I was really happy to be there for that. And it was a really fun concert. Really, really just like a, Oh, then I turned around. Who's sitting next to each other behind me?
Starting point is 00:22:07 And literally the entire... I felt so weird about this because the entire stadium turns around and looks at the fact that... John Mayer, Jeffrey Epstein, and Elaine Maxwell were there. Oh my God, I knew it. And they were catching up. Oh! And he was like, how do you spell your name again?
Starting point is 00:22:24 It's coming up on the holidays. It's like what the three year anniversary of our Ghislaine episode. You got to check that out again. That's some of my proudest work. Honestly, the 12 days of Christmas, the McDonald's episode and the Ghislaine episode and the Mary M. Cosby episode. 12 days of culture. 12 days of culture. Should we do that again? Maybe we should. It's been like 40 years. Has it been? I guess. Yeah, cause that was 2020. That was 2020. Yo-yo.
Starting point is 00:22:47 Okay, so what was I saying? Oh, John Mayer and... Oh, John Mayer and Katy Perry. In the same... What? Well, they clearly didn't know it was happening. And then I felt weird because everyone was turned with their phones out facing them, watching them talk.
Starting point is 00:23:01 And I was just like facing forward, like you guys, please don't. Like that's not, but in the words of Jonah Maroney, respect celebrity privacy. Respect celebrity privacy. Celebrity rights. Um, but everyone was enjoying the short and sweet tour. Juno, how did Juno go?
Starting point is 00:23:15 Juno was amazing. Oh. Bad Kam looked so fucking fun. Bad Kam is great. Juno is probably... now, nowadays, the song I listen to the most. Oh, it's fantastic.
Starting point is 00:23:28 By the way, Nonsense Christmas looks so fun. Lauren Mandel, Culture Awards, the only reason the Culture Awards produced that down, she produced Nonsense Christmas. Yeah. Can we say? Yeah, we can say. We tried to move heaven and earth to do it. We were asked to do it.
Starting point is 00:23:42 We were asked to be in it. We were asked to be in it, and we couldn't make it work. We're so bummed. We couldn't make it work. We love you, Sabrina. We were actually doing a culture awards related thing in LA and she was shooting it in New York and we heard, we got the ask and that would have been so fun. It would have been so fun. Oh well.
Starting point is 00:23:57 Next year is nonsense Christmas. Next year is nonsense Christmas. She's the perfect person to do a Christmas special. It's the humor, it's the, oh my God. I can't believe I just had the word humor after the onyx. Oh, my God. That was such a fun episode. Wasn't that fun? I listened back and I was like, wow, this is even more fun than I remember. It's also about a pancake.
Starting point is 00:24:16 So special. OK, what else is on the list? I have Charlie XDX on SNL. So that episode was so much fun. I have to say Shrek actually is back. Shrek is now permanent relevant monoculture. It's actually rule of culture number 15. Shrek is now permanent relevant monoculture. There's never a time,
Starting point is 00:24:38 cause by the way they keep coming out with Shreks. Yeah Shrek five's coming. And also Puss in Boots is a full spin off. Come on. But Shrek will never not be Shrek. What do you think it's about? You sent me a Lord Farquaad thing the other day. I don't know why.
Starting point is 00:24:55 Why was Farquaad on the brain? This is so, I don't know why this happened, but I found myself, I like woke up from a blackout and was like on Lord Farquaad's Wikipedia. Who? Like looking at like information about his past. And I just like was like, I don't know why I'm here. I'm screenshotting this and putting this on my story.
Starting point is 00:25:14 But it was basically like... Farquaad's history? It was like Farquaad like, I forget, it was like his basic info. Wow. And I was just like, I don't know why I'm here, but the reason is because... Shrek is on the brain. Shrek is never going to be far from top of mind. For everyone, not fair.
Starting point is 00:25:33 I had the privilege. Oh my God, I go to the Today Show. I'm actually going tomorrow morning. Huh? I'm actually going tomorrow morning. What? Yeah. I'm on the 9 a.m. hour.
Starting point is 00:25:43 Oh my God. Yeah. Who are you talking to, Hodo and Jenna? No, I'm talking to Troy. I'm eating the to Moro Vora. What? Yeah. I'm on the 9 a.m. hour. Oh my god. Who are you talking to, Hoda and Jenna? No, I'm talking to... I'm eating the food from the... Chanel, Chanel and Craig and everybody? Oh, they're so fun. Yeah, Chanel, Craig, Al Roker. If you can talk to Sean Hickey today, Jenna and Hoda want us to do something.
Starting point is 00:25:57 What do they want us to do? Because you said at the end of your segment there's gonna be a surprise. There's gonna be a surprise for Hoda. Hoda kinda knows about it, but I'm gonna tell you off-link. Okay, I'm into it. I'm interested because I keep wanting to go back there. It would involve us recording something in the studio. Wow.
Starting point is 00:26:12 Oh, okay, now I think I have an idea about what this might be. And obviously, you know I'm interested. I'm so interested. To send off Hoda Kotb, are you kidding me? Whoa. Sorry, I'm saying too much. Hoda legend.
Starting point is 00:26:24 Hoda legend, Kathy Lee. She is a legend. Oh my God, I can't believe I got to look her in the eyes and say thank you so much for the years you put in and for sharing everything about your life with us, about Hope and with, and Hailey. Like that is so special. God. I love her.
Starting point is 00:26:38 Just the best. Wow, would it be? Oh, I was on Today Show, and then in between segments, first of all, the stunning, wonderful, incredible Paul Mescal and I are next to each other in the dressing rooms. Oh my god. He got to introduce himself to each other. He's so excited.
Starting point is 00:26:53 I can't wait for him to host. Oh, yes, he's hosting. He's hosting the next show. And then, lovely staff member on Today goes, Bowen, Tom Lithgow would like for you to say hello. John Lithgow. Lord Farquad himself. Wow, this isgow would like for you to say hello. John Lithgow. Lord Farquad himself. Wow, this is, this is what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:27:08 Winston Churchill, Lord Farquad, no. Couldn't have been nicer. John Lithgow would like for you to say hello. I was like, I was being invited to meet the king. Wow, I mean, in a way. In a way. I've met him years ago. I interviewed him and Blythe Danner
Starting point is 00:27:21 about a movie at Sundance and they do. They have the gravitas. They are like American. People constantly think he's British. Yeah. Even though he's American. Yes. Probably because of the Churchill of it all. It's the Churchill of it all. But anyway, Shrek is on the brain. Farquaad, you know, I never got until years later that it's supposed to be like a play on Farquaad.
Starting point is 00:27:39 Oh, is it really? See, the thing about Shrek, it was subversive, bitch. Very subversive. I'll never forget, like, my grandfather was fighting me when we, when I was a kid. He was like, you really want to see this movie? Shriek? Yes, bitch. I was like, I want to see it.
Starting point is 00:27:54 It has a good review in Newsday, which was the Long Island newspaper. I was like, it has three stars in Newsday, we're going. It might even have four stars. I bet it had four. Because whoever was reviewing at Newsday fucking understood the assignments. Yes. And my grandfather was like, all right, I can't believe we're gonna see Shriek.
Starting point is 00:28:09 And so we go there and immediately it starts giving the most biting humor. Yes. And he was on board. And when they said Duloc is a perfect place. Just keep up with the grass, change your shoes, wipe your face. So.
Starting point is 00:28:23 Come on, this is great comedic work. Jennifer Saunders singing, holding out for a hero. In the second one, yes. Rupert Everett playing Prince Charming. That was the first time they let a gay man really go off in a fantasy world. Rupert Everett walked so Jonathan Billy could twirl his ass. Thank you for that close up shot, by the way.
Starting point is 00:28:44 You know the shot I'm talking about, y'all. Yeah, you know- The dance of your life where he really has ass in face. If you get to see that 20 feet tall at IMAX, I'm so happy for you. It's wonderful, but I've been a fan of Jonathan Bailey's ass since Bridgerton. Since Bridgerton.
Starting point is 00:28:56 In the first episode, you see it, and it's all its glory. Since crashing, since Final Fantasy XIV, I'm gonna keep saying it. Fellow travelers too. I mean, the sex scenes in fellow travelers are real and intense. Happy for everyone involved. And so happy for those boys that they got to live their dream.
Starting point is 00:29:14 Let's see, what else about Shrek the Musical? Oh, so, so, so. So then we changed it to Shrek the Musical, and then it was so fun. So did you know from Charlie that she was doing Coachella? Did she tell you that week? No. She didn't? She's very close to the best. So now they know from Charlie that she was doing Coachella? Did she tell you that we know she didn't? Okay, so now they've announced Coachella for next year.
Starting point is 00:29:29 Daga headline. And when she took to Instagram and said, I have long dreamed of hosting a night of chaos in the desert, I said, you better talk to us about what you've long dreamed about. I long dreamed of hosting a night of chaos in the desert. Right? Right. Right. Right. So've long dreamed of hosting a night of chaos in the desert, right? Right, right, right. So the desert, it's a place for chaos, right? Gaga ending every sentence with right.
Starting point is 00:29:52 Perfect. It's right. She's gonna be out there. So it's, first of all, Friday night is gonna be freakish. Missy Elliott into Gaga. I can't believe that. I can't believe that. I'm so jealous. I can't believe you're working. I can go to second week, I can't go to first. Oh God, it. I can't believe you're working. I can go to second week. I can't go to first.
Starting point is 00:30:06 Oh, God. That's what we have tickets to first. I'm literally flying in Sunday to go to Sunday. Are you actually gonna do that? Yes, but... Because you know I have a ticket for you. Love Mr. Malone. Yes.
Starting point is 00:30:14 Oh, Post Malone on Sunday is gonna be good. And Megan Thee Stallion on Sunday night. And Megan Thee Stallion. I am just devastated to miss Charlie and Gaga and Missy. Like, that is really tough. And even Green Day. I love Green Day. It's a pretty tough series of acts to miss, but it's gonna be worth it.
Starting point is 00:30:27 Sunday's gonna be amazing. We're gonna have a great time. Yes, we will. I'm so excited about Twigs. Oh my God. Like the lineup is good. Like I would say it's more exciting in the headliner space, but the thing about like not knowing a lot of the people on the...
Starting point is 00:30:41 Because I'm not familiar with a lot of the acts like... Below the line. Below the line is you discover them. a lot of the acts like, um, below the line. Below the line is you discover them and it's going to be fun. It's going to be great. I'm really excited. That's how, that's how chapel blew up. Yes.
Starting point is 00:30:52 So you know, like that is Coachella at its best when it's like, oh, this is a place where people like find someone. Yeah. Chapel Rowan and the Gobi tent going absolutely off. You better go see T-Pain this year. Oh, there's no way I'm missing T-Pain. My story last year, Dave Mazzoni and I were,
Starting point is 00:31:08 all we wanted was to see T-Pain. But the Heineken house where he was performing was absolutely... It's the... Give him a bigger venue. We tried to see T-Pain in the Heineken house at Coachella. I was there for my absolute sponsorship. Like, listen to this fucking sentence.
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Starting point is 00:36:38 disease came on and I go, this fucking video rules. It really does rule. It's so good. Yeah. It's giving like, like something's going on in the culture right now where a lot of people are doing stuff in the suburbs. Yeah. In the music video space.
Starting point is 00:36:52 What do we think? Is it to appeal? No, no, no. I think it's just, it's just a fun backdrop always, especially when you have debauchery going on. Do you have any thoughts on speaking of the music space? Any thoughts on the Grammy nominations? I'm very excited.
Starting point is 00:37:08 Award season is upon us. Award season is upon us. I think for the most part, like what we wanted. Yeah, actually exactly what I wanted. But obviously Ari was snubbed a bit. Ari snubbed and she's like, she don't care. She's like, I've got, well, it's not that she doesn't care. I think she's just like, I am on a totally different journey.
Starting point is 00:37:27 I'm so proud of that album, but not top of mind in a way that I think is so healthy. My thing is like, she's going to get an Oscar nomination and of the nomination she did get, she can now say that she's nominated for a Grammy alongside Brandi and Monica. So to me, it's to me, the morning was a whim. That's the dream. Like, to look at the list and see, there is my name next to Brandi and Monica as it should be. But like, I was so happy with that nomination because their vocal in that altogether was
Starting point is 00:37:55 truly crazy. Oh, God. So great. That song is great. But I just, that album is really spectacular. It's crazy to see all of the album of the year nominees, six of the pop girlies, and then Jacob Collier and Andre 3000 for an instrumental album.
Starting point is 00:38:13 Like, it's a cuckoo year, like, that they would do that. Like, and I guess, yeah, I guess the one big pop girl who missed out on the album of the year nom was... Was Ariana. ...Ariana, maybe because it came out super early, or March? Mm... March. Mm hmm. March. It feels earlier than everything else.
Starting point is 00:38:27 Yeah. But then Chapel was September of last year. Right. It's just. What are your thoughts? Well, the thing that I had hoped my predictions for winners or at least my hopes for winners can all happen. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:38 And I hope they spread the wealth. I don't know that they will. I don't know that they will. My dream would be album of the year, brat record of the year, espresso song of the year, either good luck, babe, or birds of a feather. Chapel Rowan, best new artist, pop vocal album. That is where Ariana could win.
Starting point is 00:39:01 I would give it to her now that she isn't up for the other big ones, but I could see Sabrina taking it. Also, Chappell, that category stacked. Pop duo. I think you have to give it to Lady Gaga and Bruno Mars. But I could also see it being Billie and Charlie, because that song is fucking huge. It comes on and you feel so excited.
Starting point is 00:39:21 Of course, it's so exciting. I do think Die With a Smile. Yeah. Die With a Smile. Yeah. Die With a Smile, fastest song to billion. So it's number one now. I think it's like that song could could win a lot more than we think. Yes. And also, I realize I didn't say Beyonce in any of that, but watch out for this.
Starting point is 00:39:41 Christmas show. Christmas thing. I didn't even know there was a football game on Christmas. Did you know about this? I knew. I know that classically there are big football games on Thanksgiving and Christmas, but otherwise. Is this part of her Netflix deal? Yes, because it's the live game on Netflix. OK, so people are all up in arms about the potential for this to be a nightmare because I guess.
Starting point is 00:40:01 Big glitches with the Jake Paul. Yeah, the Jake Paul. And the Love is Blind stuff. Like Netflix's live thing is just always technically a little. We gotta get it together. You gotta get it together for Beyonce. Come on, Ted. Oh, Ted?
Starting point is 00:40:14 What's next? Speaking of awards, have you been seeing any Oscar movies? I'm so behind. The answer is no. I have recently, last time I watched Look Back, which I think will probably get nominated for, it's gonna be tough. It's only an hour long.
Starting point is 00:40:29 It's an anime movie, but I certainly think it might, it's gonna be hard to categorize either. I need to do some more reading on this too. Like it should be up for best animated film. It has a chance at being foreign or short. I don't know. I gotta look into like the criteria for short film. I actually don't know.
Starting point is 00:40:46 I feel like it usually they are less than like. Okay, then yeah. Then I don't know that. I don't know the ins and outs of that. Like I haven't been looking and I haven't been in the animated short space. I've been in the feature space. I think this is the year that I really kind of go all the way down the ballot. You should.
Starting point is 00:41:01 Are you a member of the Academy? No, girl. If I were a member of the Academy, I would not leave the house. I would be on the Academy down the ballot. You should. Are you a member of the Academy? No, girl. If I were a member of the Academy, I would not leave the house. I would be on the Academy app all day, all night. It's probably not far away for you. I, listen, Janet Yang, the legend, you, oh my God, I got to meet Janet Yang at this event
Starting point is 00:41:17 and she was so nice to my parents. She spoke Mandarin to my parents. I was like, this woman can take over the world if she wants. President of the Academy, the chicest woman. Oh, you're not. Your invitation is not far away. Well, I don't know. You'll be getting one. But I just I'm really only in it for the app.
Starting point is 00:41:34 I'll be transparent. I just want the Academy app on my Apple TV. I get that. I've seen a few things. I saw a real pain. Yes. What did you think? With Jesse Eisenberg and Kieran Culkin. I thought it was good. I mean, I thought it was like it's a great examination of that relationship, like a brotherly relationship, but, you know, complicated and estranged.
Starting point is 00:41:54 It's bizarre to me that people are saying, like, so I went and saw it because it had Oscar buzzed and I was like, oh, Kieran Culkin is in the one spot on Gold Derby for... Supporting? Best supporting actor. You go see it. He's in ninety five percent of the show. This is the theme of this is going to be a theme of the year, I think. And then I was looking at the supporting actress and Zoe Saldana is in the one spot and they're saying she's the lead of that movie.
Starting point is 00:42:20 So I'm like and I think there are very few people in that business as talented as Kieran Culkin and Zoe Saldana. I think that like if their performances like merit that consideration, they should be in the ostrich conversation. But the problem with just throwing rules to the side. In a post Olivia Colman world? Yes. My thing with when a lead performance wins or is nominated for a supporting category, it really just like, it robs all those character actors and those supporting players of the opportunity to get that shine. You know what I mean? Like it's just, it's actually really... Because why even have a supporting category
Starting point is 00:43:05 if you're just gonna ignore the rules? And I can't help but wonder, like, what exactly makes them feel like they can make those decisions sometimes? Like, if Zoe Saldana, the lead of Amelia Perez, who is also the lead of not just Avatar, but also the Marvel of not just Avatar,
Starting point is 00:43:29 but also the Marvel series at large, Guardians, who has been a star since the late 90s, who has consistently worked year in and year out. Why do they feel like they can bump her down to supporting? It's a bummer for everybody because yeah, supporting ends up being this repository now. It feels like, oh, don't worry, we're going to campaign you for the Oscar, just not the one that is like the one everyone's going to be talking about. Why?
Starting point is 00:43:52 If Zoe Saldana is brilliant and Amelia Perez, and I haven't seen it yet, but by all accounts she is like ferocious, her best performance, whatever, then why aren't you campaigning Zoe Saldana? Someone literally everyone in America and the world has seen her movies. Why isn't she competing in lead actress if she's the lead of that movie? I just don't understand why they have, like, obviously it's a studio decision so they can hopefully maximize their opportunities to win more Oscars, but like, you know, if you move Zoe to lead,
Starting point is 00:44:23 maybe you do get two nominations in best actress with her and, you know, if you move Zoe to lead, maybe you do get two nominations in best actress with her and, you know, Paula Sofia Gascon. Now they're talking about nominating Isabella Rossellini in Conclave, a movie I saw on Election Day, which was rough to watch old white Catholic men count votes on Election Day and then check my phone. But Isabella for supporting. She has like maybe three scenes, doesn't really do much. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:48 But she's gonna compete with Zoe Saldana, the lead of the movie, and Ariana Grande, the lead of the movie. Like, if these performances are good enough to be in lead, which they are, put them there. Put them there. It is interesting. Right now currently Goldberg is Mikey Madison,
Starting point is 00:45:02 the favorite or best actress. Have you seen an aura? I have not. I have. I meant to. I'm very behind, like I said. But yeah, it's like you're seeing your Angelinas and your Nicole's, and you wonder if all this shuffling is just to make room for them.
Starting point is 00:45:16 100%. Where, yeah, you must have wondered how they feel about it, where, I don't know, I mean, their feelings are important, but also, like, not the most important thing. For me, the thing I'm thinking about the most is it's like, you just want the opportunity to reward character work. And especially with someone like Kieran Culkin, who is a character actor.
Starting point is 00:45:39 His entire career has played character roles and he has built his career playing roles like this and then he's a lead in the movie especially after he wins a lead Emmy for a show that has three arguably four leads. Yes, yes, yes. They did the right thing with him there put him in the lead category he wanted deserved lead Emmy for that like why are you putting him in the supporting category he's not a supporting role or a supporting actor. So the direction of this matters where it's on Olivia Coleman thing, where she gets bumped up from supporting to lead.
Starting point is 00:46:10 Yeah. When the two leads were bumped to supporting. Right. Well, yeah. So, so it goes both ways in that situation, but like you're talking about how it moves from top down. Yeah. I mean, it moves down.
Starting point is 00:46:19 Literally. Yes. You need to read Oscar Wars by Michael Shulman. Right. I do. I do. I do. You would love, you would eat it up.
Starting point is 00:46:25 But I guess my point is like, if we can lift, like for example, Viola Davis in Doubt. Great supporting nomination. One amazing scene sequence, if you wanna call it that, she becomes a superstar, and then years later, she gets to commit her own category, fraud and win best supporting actress for F fences. You know what I mean? It's like so but you wouldn't have the superstar that is Viola Davis is what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:46:52 without the nomination making room for a nomination like that and that's why it's important you wouldn't have like you know Octavia Spencer sure like as this like marquee name it's it's important to make room for real supporting work because it actually opens up a door to interesting actors who are doing interesting work in these types of roles who are crucial functionally to these movies. You need to run this business. But if I did run the business, they'd be like, oh, we can't do that because money. I'm like, okay, I can't do that because money.
Starting point is 00:47:27 I'm like, OK, I think this is what I would do. If you're in more than 70 percent of a movie, a jury looks at it. For example, a lot of movies have ensembles that are in the whole movie. Think about who's afraid of Virginia Woolf, right? It's an ensemble of poor people. They're in the movie the whole time. You would look at the role of Honey. A jury would look at it. She's in more than 70 percent of poor people. They're in the movie the whole time. You would look at the role of Honey. A jury would look at it. She's in more than 70% of the movie and they could decide this is a supporting role because Elizabeth Taylor is the lead.
Starting point is 00:47:52 And that I think would be fair. I'm not even saying if you're in more than 70% of the movie, you must be considered a lead. I'm like, if that's the case, let's at least look at it so that this can hold some like fairness because there needs to be something in place to achieve That's the case. Let's at least look at it. Sure. So that this can hold some, like, fairness. Because there needs to be something in place to achieve fairness because the current system is not fair. Janet Yang, Legend, take note.
Starting point is 00:48:14 Higher mat. Put mat nine in the academy. I think that's a pretty easy fix and a pretty reasonable fix. So reasonable. And it doesn't even change things that much. The Who's Are Afraid of Regina Wolfe example is perfect, too. Right. It's like, okay, she's in the movie, but it's Liz, it's Richard.
Starting point is 00:48:27 Right, but you can create new stars with Oscar nominations. Yes. So do that. I am very happy to see Clarence Macklin be number four for best supporting. But he should win. Right.
Starting point is 00:48:38 That's my point. Exactly, exactly. Clarence Macklin in Sing Sing should win that award. And because Kieran Culkin, Who by the way, it's nothing against him. No, no, no. I think he's so talented and he's terrific in the movie as a lead. It's the system of it all. And that Clarence Macklin performance is a supporting.
Starting point is 00:48:59 Revelation. Definition of what should be highlight by that category. And he's in the forespot. You know what I mean? Like that is the category for the scene stealing work. How much is Denzel in Gladiator 2? I don't know, but apparently he tears it up. Yeah, I hear he's having fun.
Starting point is 00:49:17 Yeah, I can't wait. Putting on these rings and the stress and going crazy. Was it was his line. I saw Saturday night. Yes. I think it will be better if it were all Muppets. You're so right. I don't know why I'm there. Like the way that it moves throughout 30 Rock and different characters come in.
Starting point is 00:49:37 It's literally Muppets. It's the Muppets. And I was like, this should have been the Muppets. It's like the moment in 30 Rock when you see the world through Ken's eyes and he sees Liz walking around as a muppet. Literally, that's the energy like Baluchi's behavior in the movie Muppet Ass, even Chevy, like he's like a cat and everything. Like, I just think the way the characters moved in and out and like they all just like popped in their little moments.
Starting point is 00:50:00 I was like, this is Muppets and. This movie would be more memorable if they just committed to it. And maybe it was the fact that Jim Henson is there in the movie mentioning the Muppets. And I was like, oh, this should all be Muppets. Yeah, totally. Like that scene where little mama, uh, Andrew Barth Feldman gets too high. I'm like, this is a Muppet scene. And he's giving kind of like a Muppet, I love him. He's given kind of like a Muppet performance.
Starting point is 00:50:27 I love Andrew Barth. No, he's great. Fantastic. Andrew Barth Feldman in No Hard Feelings. Oh, he's so good. He's so good in that movie. Great in this movie too. Noel Muppets should be in Enora.
Starting point is 00:50:39 Enora is one of the great movies of the year. You're gonna love it. I'm so behind. She's she's incredible. That's that I saw myself on screen when I saw her. Well, oh, yeah, I did. Like a Staten Island stripper. They're like, come on, let's go to the ATM.
Starting point is 00:50:56 I was like, I get her. She's a Heidi Garner character. Oh, definitely. Definitely. Oh, wait, didn't she do? Didn't she did 80s cocaine way. Wait, no, she played Mikey Madison. Oh, she played Mikey Madison in the Wicked Addison. Oh, just for Wicked.
Starting point is 00:51:09 Yes, yes, yes, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, well, we really went niche with this one. Yeah, no, people loved it. I see Conclave, I see The Brutalists, Nickel Boys is the first time I heard it's really good. Oh, based on the book, of course. Anjanu Ellis-Taylor.
Starting point is 00:51:23 Yes. I heard Tears It Up. She's, and she's listed as well. Hearing of this. Oh, based on the book. Of course. Anjanu Ellis-Taylor. Yes. I heard it tears it up. She's listed as well. Well, this is an interesting year. Yeah. And then I went to the theater last night. You need to tell everyone about Gypsy.
Starting point is 00:51:34 Audra in Gypsy. So, when you also saw Sunset Boulevard. I saw Sunset Boulevard, yes. So across the street from Sunset Boulevard, Audra McDonald is in Gypsy. And I went to the third preview. I'm going to take the tone that I took when I saw Sweeney Todd in previews and say, I'm going to give this to all the benefit of the doubt. It was the third preview.
Starting point is 00:51:53 And I have also heard this director in particular works a lot out in previews because from what I saw, a lot needed to be worked out in previews and they worked it out with Sweeney Todd in the end. Absolutely. I mean, and I think that that's kind of the thing with previews is you see, at least from a distance, like what's working, like things are in process. I get it. She is spectacular.
Starting point is 00:52:12 She... Audra McDonald, I happened to have like a seat where I was pretty close to her and she kind of comes very forward and gives Rose's turn like... right in the first row. Ugh. It's the first row. It's the highest quality acting on Broadway. Yeah, yeah, it is, and it's her roses. Very interesting.
Starting point is 00:52:33 It's almost like pathological. It's almost like she's playing Rose's mental illness more than we've ever seen, because like because a lot of actors will love to play up to the break. Yes, I feel like Bernadette is giving like seductive narcissists. Yes. Patty is giving like bombast, bombast bull of a woman.
Starting point is 00:52:56 I don't take no for an answer. This like almost like it's born in her culture to take over. And then the despondency when she realizes she's gone too far does it just gives me like It's an attitude issue that goes out of control Audra in her quiet moments. Oh you see her like Processing and working out disappointments and things that make her angry and then she leaps into action In a way that you know her brain is telling her,
Starting point is 00:53:26 you'll die if you don't fix this. And it's thrilling to watch. You can't have a more special experience than watching her do Rose's turn. From an acting standpoint, everyone that's wondering about how her voice is gonna fit the music, it really just depends how married you are to Patti LuPone and Bernadettes.
Starting point is 00:53:49 And some people are very married. And Ethel Merman. Like, you know what I mean? And yeah, it depends how married you are to like a brassy, belty Rose. If you're married to that, this is going to feel weird to you because it's, it's very Audra. It's very legit sounding. It is mixed. You know what I mean? Yeah, I guess we're split in the culture as to what we want,
Starting point is 00:54:10 which is some people might be married to the classic roses and then others might be like, maybe it is time for something new. How has he got to get a gimmick? Amazing. I love that song. It is, Act Two of Gypsy really soars. Like Act One is good, but act two of Gypsy is incredible.
Starting point is 00:54:27 The gimmick ladies. I love. Tore it off. Always like my favorite part of Gypsy. Yeah. And besides like the big showstoppers, but you gotta get, I'm just like, this is so fun. It's just a three, it's three charm songs in one anyway.
Starting point is 00:54:40 Yep. Yeah. It's so good. And the costumes are great. Like the performances, the actresses are so good. It's just so crazy because across the street, Nicole is so different. So different. Like doing this like avant-garde abstract, like almost like multiple personality performance. Yeah. Like a disordered. Singing down. But now I think she made it really fucking tough for herself.
Starting point is 00:55:05 She made it tough. And can I say my note, my critique for Nicole? What? The moments that are played for comedy. Pushed. Pushed. No need to do the valid girl voice. It doesn't need it. Yeah. You're putting too much sauce on it. I think that here's the thing. It's like, Audra is so, it's crazy because like,
Starting point is 00:55:21 you cannot deny the performance, the power of like Nicole's performance. Like she is spellbinding and she's amazing. And her singing is out of control. It's almost like you've never heard the songs like this in an amazing way. Across the street, Audra sings the songs from Gypsy and Audra McDonald is one of the greatest singers alive. sings the songs from Gypsy and Audra McDonald is one of the greatest singers alive. But the style of singing is so different from what people are accustomed to that you're also hearing those songs like you've never heard them. The bar is so high for Audra to me and the bar is kind of whatever for Nicole.
Starting point is 00:55:56 Well now I think the bar is so high for Nicole because everyone's talking about it and I think she made it really difficult for herself saying the stupid comment about the hat on Russell Brand's Instagram, because in terms of Tony voting. No, that's alienating so many people. Well, the Tony voting block is only 800 people. So that's a community of people. So you really do need a community to rally around you. And I don't know that they rally around her after even an explained comment
Starting point is 00:56:26 like that when they have other options. And the way that the comment was explained also could have gone better in my opinion. Here's what I'll say. I believe her when she says I'm just a religious person, but that's not really an excuse. I mean, like, I don't know. I don't know. A lot of it's weird to me, but like it's a shame because I'm a huge fan of her performance and I still do think everyone should go see this production, which I think is incredible. I wanna go see Amanda Gonzalez on Tuesdays, because I hear she is incredible.
Starting point is 00:56:54 Yeah, that would be- It's a different take, with the same production, obviously. She does every Tuesday? She does Tuesdays. Okay, we should go- I would love to see her. And I mean, just, I mean, the direction of the show, I think is phenomenal.
Starting point is 00:57:07 It's, I mean, you did enjoy it. I really enjoyed it. It was amazing. I really enjoyed it. That's my thing is it's like, as it stands right now, like if you're picking between the two performances, like the one production is just way more memorable. But again, maybe Gypsy will get there. But I'm seeing Death Becomes Her next month.
Starting point is 00:57:24 Oh my God. And I'm, I heard it's to die for. Can we just... No pun intended. Of course. Can we give respect to the name, Megan Hilty, obviously. Oh, period. But Jen Samar.
Starting point is 00:57:36 Yes. One of our best. Yeah, no, all I'm hearing is that they tear it up and the show is so fun. Oh my God, I love it. No, and also to say nothing of Michelle Williams. Of course. Like, when you see Michelle Williams the day after Beyonce on TV. Oh my God, yeah, wow, wow, wow.
Starting point is 00:57:54 Wow. I'll have to see, do something with Kelly on the 27th. With Kelly, absolutely. I'll have to play Lay It On Me for my parents, the music video. Lay it on me, baby, lay it on me, oh, lay it on me. Lay it on me. Death Becomes Her will be a gag. I mean, we've been asking for it as a culture. I know, but the great cast.
Starting point is 00:58:13 I love Megan Hilty. Oh my God, I love her. She was great on Watch What Happens Live. Yeah, she's great. She's so fun. Watch Smash again. Watch Smash again. She, even when the third graders, because the original third graders were writing Smash,
Starting point is 00:58:26 those third graders are now, they're like, they've grown up, they have kids. But when they were in third grade writing Smash, it didn't matter to Megan. She tore up no matter what the storyline was, and always sang her tits off.
Starting point is 00:58:42 Of course. And she was dealing with Republican leads way before anyone else. Kathy McFook. McFook. Jen Simard. Oh my God. I just, I just got to say, I got to meet her at the Tony's and I was, I was gagged. And she was my favorite part of company.
Starting point is 00:59:03 My favorite part of company. I didn't get to see company. Oh, she was fabulous in company. She was making my ass laugh. I love, I mean, like everything I've seen her do, I do love. I was super excited when I found out it was the two of them because I was like, oh, that's really fun. They found people that are really gonna give it.
Starting point is 00:59:20 Yes, yes. Like a show like that would be so easy to like cast Stunty. Totally. But they found like some of the real girls. Yes, yes. Like a show like that would be so easy to cast stunty. Totally, totally. But they found some of the real girls. Here you go. ["Ghost Hosts"] Hey there, my little creeps. It's your favorite ghost host, Teresa.
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Starting point is 01:04:04 Here's what I have. Housewives. I have housewives. There's a whole ton of stuff happening with the housewives. Of course. Let's do quick hits. Quick hits. Team Dorit or Team Kyle?
Starting point is 01:04:13 I'm gonna go Team Dorit, even though she's going through something. She's more fun to root for in this moment because Kyle, I don't know what to feel because she is not really, she's being vague in the information, which she has every right to be. I just, I'm like, I don't know what my feelings are on this like I I don't know I think I'm team Dureed yeah I think I have to be team Dureed because as much as I love Kyle and I as much as I give her name when I order at Starbucks something about Dureed's I like on the verge flying down the canyon smoking a cigarette I'm, this woman has no fucks to give,
Starting point is 01:04:46 and therefore I believe she's gonna come and be honest. That's what you wanna see on Housewives. And you don't, it's not fun, and not that it's for fun or entertainment, even though it's a show, but it's like, and she's dealing with a deeply personal, painful thing. Not painful, but just sensitive thing. It's not fun for someone to be cagey about something like this. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I will also say, like, when they were picking on her hat Not painful, but just sensitive thing. It's not fun for someone to be cagey about something like this.
Starting point is 01:05:05 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I will also say, like, when they were picking on her hat that she wore for the surreal party, I'm like, you guys know that she's one of the only ones that's like actually kind of doing the surreal assignment. Sure. Y'all are dressed as woodland creatures. Y'all are being like goofy. Yeah. Wait, you're talking about... You're talking about Dorita.
Starting point is 01:05:23 Yeah, her thing that she wore to the Surrealism party. I thought it worked. I thought it worked. The antlers didn't really make sense to me. And why were they all in them? I don't know. We're talking about like Dalí Surrealism. Right.
Starting point is 01:05:35 Magritte Surreal. Magritte Surreal. Like, wear an apple, put an apple on your face. You know, like do that. Yeah. Some people were reading goofy and random. It was too goofy for me. No. Bose, you know, like do that. Yeah. So maybe we're being goofy and random. It was too goofy for me. No.
Starting point is 01:05:47 Bose I love. I like Bose. I like Bose as a vibe, even though like whatever her like career history is, is kind of weird and checkered. I don't know if it's checkered or not. My question is just like why it's like when she was like, I worked here and here and here and here and here and here. Usually, and I don't know this.
Starting point is 01:06:04 Usually when someone has worked at a lot of places, it means they've had to leave a lot of places. This is what I'm saying. But I also don't want to take anything away from her because she's clearly a very dynamic, compelling, very riveting. No, she's a very person. I'm very, I think this is the right vibe and I don't really miss your Crystal Kong main cast.
Starting point is 01:06:21 Oh, I didn't even think about her. Eww. I don't think about any of the Housewives that aren't on anymore. That's why whenever anyone's like, Oh, we missed so and so, I'm like, we're gonna miss so and so. I'm like, you're not though. The only exception is, because maybe it's a full reboot, is Rony. And we'll talk about that.
Starting point is 01:06:37 Rony's nothing. It's tough. It is tough. I was rooting for them. We were all rooting for them. We were all rooting for them. How dare them? This whole fucking... Erin, Erin, I'm just like... Girl.
Starting point is 01:06:51 What are you doing? To me, she's not even the problem. She's not even the problem, but like the Rebecca Mink, the prank, quote unquote. I hated the prank. This sucks balls. Yeah, I hated the prank. Erin didn't even need to do the prank. Because I was like, you're one of the ones actually giving a storyline. Meanwhile, like so many of them are not.
Starting point is 01:07:07 And they can't get me to care about Raquel. They can't get me to care about Raquel. I don't even know the women from last season, really. It's like, why are you suddenly doing Raquel? It's like, I don't know the girls that we have on the show already. Right. I'm like, sorry, what is Uba about again? Like, what happened to the hot sauce? I would love to know what happened with the hot sauce and I like the hot sauce
Starting point is 01:07:28 Jessel I I'm rooting for still in a way Povit makes it very tough. That is one of the lamest motherfuckers to ever be on television. Yeah, he I Saw that shoe that thing of like when straight men like negative Like the like thing of like, oh, I'm gonna be annoying as a funny thing and eat on our therapy Zoom. I would turn to my husband and say,
Starting point is 01:07:51 you better close your mouth and put that snack away right now. You are being so disrespectful. You're embarrassing me while the cameras are on. Here's the thing. The reason why you're embarrassing me is because you're embarrassing yourself. Yes. And now I'm on this television show on therapy and you are not being funny and you think
Starting point is 01:08:10 you are and it's humiliating. And his thing of like constantly minimizing her, I get that she's no saint and like obviously like... Of course, of course. Their relationship was established as being very like the meanness to each other is like a foreplay that they do. But it's like, dude, come on. Come on.
Starting point is 01:08:30 Now I'm like, Oh, you're, you're just like a wannabe tech bro. You worship, you worship Elon. He wouldn't want the daughter to be Taylor Swift, but he would want his daughter, his son to be like Elon. I was like, you said it all right. I'm like, you jack off to the cyber truck or something. Like you literally is like, I want a cyber truck. I'm like, this is our guy.
Starting point is 01:08:51 Not our guy, but I'm just, this is the guy. It's giving cabinet appointment. Oh. Okay, so OC, I thought Emily Simpson won the reunion. Emily Simpson. You're the dumbest girl I've ever, don't you dare. Don't ever call me dumb, you're the dumbest girl I've ever fucking met. I've ever fucking met.
Starting point is 01:09:08 I never fucking met. No lies told there. No lies told. Sorry, Alexis. Sorry, girl. But you're a wonderful mother. She's a wonderful mother. I'm sure they're all wonderful mothers.
Starting point is 01:09:19 Like these people, they come on and I just wonder like, what did Alexis think this was gonna be like? What exactly did she think was gonna happen when she went fresh off getting together with the star of the shows, like ex-husband, ex-fiance, whatever it was, and like have no like contrition about it. Did you expect it to have like a future on the show?
Starting point is 01:09:46 No. You're in, you're out. Defensive against dark arts. Katie, that was tough. I wanted to come back though. I do, I want that as well. I think there's extrapolation there. I felt one of the lowest parts of the reunion was that,
Starting point is 01:10:01 I think it was Heather DeBrow who I do like brought up that years before Katie had that legal situation that I was like, this is like not relevant and feels petty. So petty and I think she, she felt bad. Heather felt bad. And then that's where she went over. I don't know. That's part of the reason why she went over and, you know.
Starting point is 01:10:17 And Tamara, I don't, I think it needs to be a three times a week therapy for so many reasons. Potomac, I am so on board with, oh my God, someone stopped me today in the street as I was getting into an Uber. She was like, hold on to your window. I was like, okay, what's she gonna say? She goes, I just wanna let you know, I love Gisele, that you and Matt changed my mind on it.
Starting point is 01:10:38 And I said, but wait, she's fun again. I like her. And then she's like, really? I'm gonna start, I need to start watching Potomac. So this person flagged you down to share a Potomac thought? To share that we had helped her change her mind on Gisele, because if anyone knows the history of our podcast on Gisele, we've been very anti.
Starting point is 01:10:56 Yes. Now with Robin Diggs out of the picture, now that I think Gisele might have been a little scared, fire under her ass, something happened. Now she is, I think she's very enjoyable. And I never thought I would say those words. I'm enjoying Gisele. I'm even enjoying Ashley. Like, I'm actually enjoying the group as a whole.
Starting point is 01:11:15 And I've also, I think Wendy is so much better when she's not filming. She has to be like anxiously be on the defensive all the time. Miss Stacy is- I am obsessed! She's here to stay. on the defensive all the time. Miss Stacey is- I am obsessed! She's here to stay.
Starting point is 01:11:27 I said, I want Stacey in a confessional after every scene, even when she's not in. I want her reacting to every single thing that happens on the show. The boyfriend is- Oh, I love it. It's too good. No, I've just, can I just say,
Starting point is 01:11:43 none of it is embarrassing. None of it like lowers any sort of thing I have for Stacey. Like she is, I will follow her to the ends of the earth. I am a Stacey fan. Sarah Schermer and I are like, that is the most beautiful woman. Sarah and I are obsessed. She now takes the crown away from Lisa Barlow for you.
Starting point is 01:12:01 Lisa has not been doing it for me lately. I'm so sorry. Transitioning to Salt Lake. Yeah. We are, we are sort of at an impasse, you and I with Bronwyn. Yes. I'm very pro Bronwyn. And I'm not to draw a comparison of Pevitt's like rich people being funny and quirky is like taking a plane and going to Vietnam to eat a banh mi.
Starting point is 01:12:22 Yeah. And I don't know if it's a spare to like, to, but it's like you dress up in an inflatable dinosaur costume to go greet your husband, or you have, I don't know, like tacky PJs and you have dog turds around the house. I'm like, something is off. You revealed what it really is about Bronwyn though for you. It's one of the things, it's not the main reason, but she does trigger me, and for lack of a better word, to this awful person that I knew growing up.
Starting point is 01:12:52 And it's because she talks like this, and the way she confronts is with this. I don't like that tone of voice. Yeah. Fucking hate it. I will say, for me, my like of Bronwyn is because I do think that she's able to explain her perspective in a way that I've noticed something about the Salt Lake women.
Starting point is 01:13:12 They often don't get it. They can't explain their own point of view. They can't see the forest for their trees emotionally. Like Lisa Borlow, most of all, and it's funny and it's great. I feel like Bronwyn is the most grounded and she's like, no, I know how I feel. My moral compass is what it is.
Starting point is 01:13:30 You might not agree with it, but I'm gonna eloquently and intelligently dress you down and get you together. And she's like the first like good, like on the spot, like conversational, like- High EQ. Yes. sure. And then sometimes she lets things slip in a way that I'm like, whoa, where she's
Starting point is 01:13:50 like, haven't I bought your loyalty? I sat in first class because I because it was my credit card, which, you know, I guess the first class of it all. I don't know. Like when she's when she's backed into a corner in a real way, I think she kind of it's tough. Yeah. into a corner in a real way, I think she kind of... It's tough. Yeah, but I do think though, like, if you take all of your friends on a private plane to your home for your anniversary
Starting point is 01:14:14 with your husband, you do get to say to someone that they're being an asshole and it's fucked up when you paid for shit. I do think you get to say that. As a real housewife of Salt Lake City. I think she's within her rights. Todd scares me though. I don't like that. Todd's scary and I think we're going to see that marriage really kind of the hood of that pop up.
Starting point is 01:14:34 But that's Gerardi-ish as fuck. Yeah, but I think. Not in a legal way and like that setup is giving me agina. I have not made up my mind on Bronwyn. I just, and I see potential for. She's here to stay. If Giselle, if I can get, Giselle can get me to like her, anything's possible.
Starting point is 01:14:51 So, and Bronwyn seems very, very, very interesting. And that's what the show thrives on. I think the fact that Heather is so pressed about Bronwyn is because I think Heather, Heather doesn't realize the audience can tell. Like Heather's trying to make it about like, I am very protective of this group because we've been through a lot.
Starting point is 01:15:12 Yes. And it's like, okay, that might be true, but what you're protective of is the dynamic of the group for the show reasons and your status. And Bronwyn makes the show better, but I don't know if in Heather's mind, that's true because I think Bronwyn brings a big personality and takes up a lot of space.
Starting point is 01:15:32 And when you're there, that's something I was thinking about. Like I didn't even think about that with like housewives. I was actually watching an interview with Bozema on Kelly Clarkson and Kelly was like, so what's been your experience of being on Housewives? And Bozema goes, you know, it's not dissimilar to being in the boardroom. Uh huh. She was like, you're all sitting there and you're trying to work out a problem or a solution and people are very convinced of themselves and you have to be able to broker communications
Starting point is 01:16:01 and conflict and resolve and everyone has different things that they want. She was like, I can liken it to that. And I was thinking about that and I was like, you know, Bronwyn brings a new element to that boardroom and you don't have a great set of minds on salt lake city, I think in a boardroom sense, I think you have a lot of people screaming very convinced of themselves. It is all I care about. And we have entertainment. But Bronwyn is just bringing a new element to the boardroom,
Starting point is 01:16:29 and Heather is uncomfortable with that. But she should get comfortable with it. She should get comfortable. Bronwyn's here to stay. I do kind of bristle a bit at like the vernacular sometimes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Who definitely makes the show better. I don't know if she makes the show better. The vernacular she possesses. Who definitely makes the show better. I don't know if she makes the show better.
Starting point is 01:16:46 The vernacular she possesses. The vernacular she possesses. She does not have. But I think Bronwyn, I don't know if I agree with you yet that she makes the show better. Who makes the show objectively better? Talk about it. Angie Kay. Angie Katanaevis. We...
Starting point is 01:17:00 This is a stan account. This is a stan account for Angie Kay. You have shown vulnerability this season. You've also pulled the campiest stunts that loop all the way back around to them working. The scroll is so stupid. You executed it so beautifully and... Timing. And the timing of it was so bad that it was good. It was brilliant.
Starting point is 01:17:22 But I'm just saying, it was so bad that it was good. You know, when she does like campy housewives things, like when she shows up and it's so clear, she knows she's on camera for me with her with almost no one else. It's charming. The awareness works. Yes. It's like, well, Meredith, I actually was going to want to talk to you about this, Meredith. I'm like, yes, and you wind up. And it's so beautiful.
Starting point is 01:17:45 Well, Lisa, you are not a good friend to me. And I think it's shown, Lisa, I'm speaking. Like, I'm just like, you better be a housewife. Lauren, Matt's got an Angie K. They gave me another shot. And I go in there with just Angie K. If I go back in there years and years and years later for my third screen test at SNL after you're gone.
Starting point is 01:18:07 Oh my God. And I go, I'm Matt Rogers and today I'll be doing Angie Katzenaebus. Immediate hire. And I just do her for five minutes. Immediate hire. Actually no, I say for 15, I refuse to leave. Yeah, don't leave.
Starting point is 01:18:17 You're doing Angie K. Just like Angie K wouldn't. Oh my God. We love you, Angie, so much. Can we come stay at your place in Salt Lake? I got the invite. Oh, I know, but I want to come too. No, can we both come, Angie? so much. Can we come stay at your place in Salt Lake? I got the invite. Oh, I know, but I wanna come too. No, can we both come, Angie?
Starting point is 01:18:27 There's room in that house. Hey there, my little creeps. It's your favorite ghost host, Tereza. And guess what? Haunting is back. Drop it just in time for spooky season. Now I know you've probably been wandering the mortal plane, wondering when I'd be back to fill your ears with deliciously unsettling stories.
Starting point is 01:18:48 Well, wonder no more, because we've got a ghoulishly good lineup ready for you. Let's just say things get a bit extra. We're talking spirits, demons, and the kind of supernatural chaos that'll make your spooky season complete. You know how much I love this time of year. It's the one time I'm actually on trend. So grab your pumpkin spice, dust off that Ouija board. Just don't call me unless it's urgent.
Starting point is 01:19:12 And tune in for new episodes every week. Remember, the veils are thin, the stories are spooky, and your favorite ghost host is back and badder than ever. Listen to Haunting on the iHeart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hey, I'm Jacquees Thomas, the host of a brand new Black Effect original series, Black Lit, the podcast for diving deep into the rich world of black literature. I'm Jacquees Thomas, and I'm inviting you to join me in a vibrant community of literary enthusiasts dedicated to protecting and celebrating our stories.
Starting point is 01:19:53 Black Lit is for the page turners, for those who listen to audio books while commuting or running errands, for those who find themselves seeking solace, wisdom, and refuge between the chapters. From thought-provoking novels to powerful poetry, we'll explore the stories that shape our culture. Together, we'll dissect classics and contemporary works while uncovering the stories of the
Starting point is 01:20:17 brilliant writers behind them. Black Lit is here to amplify the voices of Black writers and to bring their words to life. Listen to Black Lit on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The 2025 iHeart Podcast Awards are coming. This is the chance to nominate your podcast for the industry's biggest award. Submit your podcast for nomination now at iHeart.com slash podcast awards. But hurry, submissions close on December 8th.
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Starting point is 01:21:41 You know who they are. Sydney, Alison and Joe are back together on Still the Place with a trip down memory lane and back to Melrose Place. So listen to Still the Place on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to podcasts. Hola mi gente, it's Honey German and I'm bringing you Gracias Come Again, the podcast where we dive deep into the world of Latin culture, musica, peliculas and entertainment with some of the biggest names in the game. If you love hearing real conversations with your favorite Latin celebrities, artists and culture shifters, this is the podcast for you.
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Starting point is 01:22:37 in all sorts of industries. Don't miss out on the fun, El Te Caliente and Life Stories. Join me for Gracias Come Again, a podcast by Honey German, where we get into todo lo actual y viral. Listen to Gracias Come Again on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is, I don't't Think So Honey. This is the segment where we take one minute to rail against something in culture. And we are going to do just that right now. Okay, yes, I have something.
Starting point is 01:23:15 I alluded to it earlier in the episode and I just yeah, I'm ready to go. Okay, this is Matt Rogers. I don't think so. When is time starts now? I don't think so, honey, that Sebastian Stan doesn't get to do an Actors on Actors for The Apprentice for Variety because no one would sit with him and talk about that movie. Craving. He was quoted as saying that no actor would agree to sit down with him and talk about
Starting point is 01:23:36 the Donald Trump biopic that he is in. That is so cowardly and stupid. I don't know if it's the publicists. I don't know if it's the publicists. I don't know if it's the actors themselves. Just sit down and talk with this man about his good work. And he's also in another movie called A Different Man, which was getting rave reviews. He apparently gives a terrific performance.
Starting point is 01:23:54 Like, this guy is a great actor. He takes himself seriously. Like, because you're what, scared of blowback? Trump voters aren't watching the variety of actors on Actors. I have news for you. I don't think so, honey. That's one minute. I'm just saying, Sebastian Stan, if I had a movie out there,
Starting point is 01:24:12 I would sit down with you. You would go on Hot Ones, you would do Actors on Actors with Sebastian. I would do anything. Michael Fish would dress you both. I love Sebastian Stan. And I didn't like seeing him be disrespected because he shows up, you know, he looks like he does a great job at his stuff. He seems like a nice guy.
Starting point is 01:24:29 We've heard that he's such a sweet, nice guy. And I think it was incredibly brave of him to do that movie. Yes. And someone should step up and not be a loser. And especially now you would get a lot of credit for doing it. Of course. So someone- Because he called it out.
Starting point is 01:24:45 Yeah, and I'm happy that he did. Yeah, me too. Because that is really important, because are you telling me that we're just, now we're gonna take what's happened and move forward in fear? No, no fucking way. That implies the mandate.
Starting point is 01:25:00 And let him host SNL, Lauren. Yeah. I don't know if he, do you think he would wanna do that? I've heard that he wants to. Oh, great. And I would love for him to do that. He would be fantastic. I mean, for him and I, Tanya,
Starting point is 01:25:13 it's like he can do a fun voice, a fun accent. He can commit. He's my favorite actor. That's all you need. I'm on record on this podcast. He's my favorite actor. Sebastian, I watch you before I audition. Oh, that's so beautiful. And it works. And it works. Cause she books. I'll do one really quickly. Yes, that's so beautiful and it works cuz she books
Starting point is 01:25:26 I'll do one really quickly. Yes. Okay. So this is bow and yang's I don't think so, honey On the Friendsgiving episode of lost clothes. We've hope you've all enjoyed and celebrating Thanksgiving with us We hope you had a snack and a cocktail or not or not. Uh This is bow and yin is out of these on these time starts now. I don't think so, honey Pejorative on theater kids at this point. It's like, we get it. Like, it's fun to make fun of them, but also like, what's the alternative? These people grow up and have no outlet for their creativity,
Starting point is 01:25:58 the innate creativity that all human beings have. And what, they grew up to be a fucking like mass shooter? Like, shut up, like stop it. Don't like, stop this culture. Like, look, you got two theater kids in front of you. Well, I'm one of them, not you. Like, I think you were late. But I count, I count.
Starting point is 01:26:16 You do count. We both give off the energy. I'm a late in life theater kid. This is the thing. It's like, you know, the alternative is bad, okay? Right. So like, not too much on the theater kid, you know, the alternative is bad. OK, right. So like not too much on the theater kid, you know, put nonsense in like it's not even that like I am annoyed that people are making fun of them.
Starting point is 01:26:33 I'm just like, can't we do better as a culture? It's like the least original thing when people like I said, you know, and I'm like, you don't really know me that well. I have sex and I play video games as well. Yeah, that's one minute. He fucks, he plays video games, and he's a theater kid. Bowen Gang. And I'm a dancer, period.
Starting point is 01:26:52 And he danced down in Wicked. The discourse online has gotten so bad that everyone's going to blue sky now. Like, this is gonna become garbage too though. No, it's not. This This is either a social media platform becomes for like suburban people who, um, don't really give a fuck about it. So funny. A bit.
Starting point is 01:27:17 Yeah. It's like, it's like Facebook is for moms. We love moms. Instagram is for like, as a mall now, like social always, no, but it's not even for millennials. It just, it's always, every platform veers off into some crazy new identity that was, that has nothing, that had nothing to do with what it originally was meant to do. Yeah. Like the Facebook being for moms, it's like not, not, nothing against moms.
Starting point is 01:27:41 It was for cool college students. Yeah. And then it became something totally different. Like it just will always fall off a cliff and like podcasting is kind of, not that it's a social media platform, but podcasting is sort of, it's so funny. I'm like, God, like Matt and I are kind of like keeping it old school.
Starting point is 01:27:59 Oh, this is for sure an old school podcast. It's so weird. We gotta end the podcast. The chef is coming. We're having a chef cook us our friends' gifts. I was gifted a chef. For Friendsgiving. Gifted a chef. Such a lovely gift.
Starting point is 01:28:12 You know, happy Friendsgiving everyone. This is our episode, Happy Thanksgiving Tomorrow. I apologize on this episode. I'm a little nasal. I have a little allergies, but we still are gonna soldier on and end every episode with a song. We love you so much.
Starting point is 01:28:25 Oh, I leave quite an impression on me to be exact. You wanna wear every clothes that missing my body. If you are lucky enough to go see the Short and Sweet Tour internationally, go do it. It's the first song Sabrina performa. Lost Cultures is a production by Will Ferrell's Big Money Players and I Heart Radio Podcasts. Created and hosted by Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang. Executive produced by Anna Hosnier and Hans Sani. Produced by Becker Ramos.
Starting point is 01:29:04 Edited and mixed by Doug Bame and Monique Laborde. And our music is by Henry Kupurski. Hey everybody, it's me, Matt Rogers, letting you know tickets are on sale now to see me on tour. The Prince of Christmas tour, that is. I'm doing my whole album, Have You Heard of Christmas? Plus a lot more with the whole band all throughout December. Go to www.matrojsofficial.com to see me in a city near you. The 2025 I Heart Podcast Awards are coming.
Starting point is 01:29:40 This is the chance to nominate your podcast for the industry's biggest award. Submit your podcast for nomination now at iHeart.com slash podcast awards, but hurry. Submissions close on December 8th. Hey, you've been doing all that talking. It's time to get rewarded for it. Submit your podcast today at iHeart.com slash podcast awards. That's iHeart.com slash podcast awards. That's iHeart.com slash podcast awards. Hey everyone, I'm Madison Packer,
Starting point is 01:30:09 a pro hockey veteran going on my 10th season in New York. And I'm Anya Packer, a former pro hockey player and now a full Madison Packer stan. Anya and I met through hockey and now we're married and moms to two awesome toddlers, ages two and four. And we're excited about our new podcast, Moms Who Puck, which talks about everything from pro hockey to professional women's athletes to raising children and all the messiness in between.
Starting point is 01:30:33 So listen to Moms Who Puck on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, everyone. This is Courtney Thorne-Smith, Laura Leighton and Daphne Zuniga. On July 8th, 1992, apartment buildings with pools were never quite the same as Melrose Place was introduced to the world. We are going to be reliving every hookup, every scandal and every single wig removal together. So listen to Still the Place on the iHeartRadio app,
Starting point is 01:31:07 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Welcome to Gracias Come Again, a podcast by HoneyGerman, where we get real and dive straight into todo lo actual y viral. We're talking música, los premios, el chisme, and all things trending in my cultura. I'm bringing you all the latest happening in our entertainment world music, the awards, the gossip, and all things trending in my culture. And that's a song that only nuestra gente can sprinkle. Listen to Gracias Come Again on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Hello, my undeadly darlings. It's Teresa, your resident ghost host.
Starting point is 01:31:58 And do I have a treat for you? Haunting is crawling out from the shadows, and it's going to be devilishly good. We've got chills, thrills, and stories that'll make you wish the lights stayed on. So join me, won't you? Let's dive into the eerie unknown together. Sleep tight, if you can. Listen to Haunting on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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