Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "A Perfect Pure Injection of Fun Fancy Free" (w/ Matt & Bowen)

Episode Date: August 9, 2023

Matt & Bowen may be back in little boxes on a computer, but that doesn't mean they're not injecting you right in the little veins with a culture catch up for the ages. After Matt's two-Eras-Tour weekend and Bowen's one-canceled-Carly Rae-concert-Monday, there is much to discuss, such as Alex Newell in Shucked, Patti LuPone's upcoming shows at Cherry Grove, being in indictment watch for the third time (got him! btw), the Lizzo of it all, psychics, and getting fingered. All this, how GHB is kinda taking over the gay community and TBH it's a little weird, pros and cons of the new RHONY, mass uncoupling and how dating can feel like doom, establishing routines, adjusting to new medication and Grindr sucking in more ways than one. Sign up for Big Money Players's Diamond Subscription for bonus episodes of Las Cultch early! We explain it all in this episode <3 Bonus episodes are available early for subscribers to Big Money Players Diamond on Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/lasculturistasSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City are back. I love that. I love that. Oh my gosh. Welcome. And last season's drama was just the tip of the iceberg. You're recording us? I am disgusted.

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Bowen, look over there. Wow, is that culture? Yes. Oh, my goodness. Wow. Bowen, look over there. Is that culture? Yes. Las Culturistas. Ding dong. Las Culturistas calling. We're back in the little boxes on the virtual screen. I know. Y'all, we're not getting the visuals.

We're in our Beyonce bag. You're not getting the visuals this week for the podcast. Okay, let's just be upfront. We're spoiling you already. You're like spoiled rotten little this week for the podcast. Okay, let's just be upfront. We're spoiling you already. You're like spoiled rotten little piglets. Oh, stop. In the mush. What is it called?

I might turn some people on. The slop? In the slop, yeah. Slop. From the trough? Oh, yeah. They eat slop from the trough. Oh, God.

That's like both disgusting and so horny, you know? I'm seeing these TikToks of pigs with a bunch of golden retrievers, you know, doing the same tricks as the dogs. And I'm going, I think it's time we save the pigs for good. Yeah. You think it's because the pigs are looking at the dogs and they think they're a dog and the dogs are looking at the pigs and they think they're a pig?

Because these animals are so stupid. No, that is not what I'm saying. Matt, you better walk that back because you're going to upset some people. I have no problem saying that domestic dogs and pigs are stupid. I'm on record being like the whales are smarter than humans. But what makes you say that the dogs aren't as smart as the whales or humans? Because they look at a pig and they act like a pig and they're a dog.

Idiot. No, and see, the pigs act like the dog. Excuse me, honey. Let me tell you something. As someone who grew up with dogs, something you would know nothing about, they act like a pig and they're a dog idiot it's like the pigs act like the dog excuse me honey let me tell you something as someone who grew up with dogs something you would know nothing about i first of all i know that big dogs see little dogs and think they're little dogs that's why they act the foolish way they do and little dogs see big dogs and think they're big dogs that's why they bark so i don't like this from you at all you don't care what you like at all if I live my life saying oh what is Bo and Yang like what would I be

you'd be a little smarter you got me girl girl I know you I know my girl I might be getting back onto TikTok just to view because I was off of it for a while but I'm following this woman who was trying to make

banana ice cream and it's the while, but I'm following this woman who was trying to make banana ice cream. And it's the sweetest video I've ever seen. Her husband's there helping her in the kitchen. She goes, I don't know how to do anything. She's like 90 years old trying to make banana ice cream. And she's like, okay, everyone's making this. And then she turns the food processor on. She screams.

I am, can I just, I'm about to shift gears. Okay. My Luxapro journey is crazy. I know you've been updating daily. And in a way that I hope is okay. I hope it's not too much information. Well, I think that here's the thing. On first glance, it feels like whenever you post about your Luxapro journey,

you're like, well, I'm a zombie again today. Well, this is terrible. And then honestly, I see you and I feel you are vibrant. Really? I just came from a workout, honey. And it's a miracle that I made it out of bed to the gym. Yeah, well, I mean, you did and you came and you're on the Zoom vibrant. Wow.

I think it's working better than you think. I was going to say you look vibrant back in LA and maybe LA looks good on you still. No, honey, I had a facial yesterday. Oh, you had a facial in New York. I had to. Tell me everything. So basically something I'm getting into this year is like. Yes.

Make no apologies. I'm trying to get into skin. So, okay. I feel like I'm being so annoying with like this project, this project, this project I have coming out. So in order, I have to take photos for the project actually today. And so I'm just being extra good with my skin and like taking care of

myself and rejuvenating. And I have to say, I'm looking at myself in the zoom right now is fucking hitting. You look amazing, honey. Very happy. So that's why I got a facial yesterday. It's not LA.

It's facial. And also, I didn't really go out this weekend outside of seeing Taylor Swift's Error Store two times. We didn't really do anything. Didn't really do anything except for Error Store twice. Foolish one. I know. Oh my God.

Speaking of concerts, that did not end in a performance of Death by a Thousand Cuts that made me weep on the spot. Can I just say, before I ask about what happened last night with Carly Rae, can I just tell you, and can we all get into it? I've seen Eris four times. These were my secret songs. Okay.

When I was with you, Welcome to New York and Clean. You remember how we felt when Clean started. Oh my God. Then I got Starlight and Back to December. Jesus. In Denver. Then, then Queen. started oh my god then i got starlight and back to december jesus in denver then then queen i got our song and you are in love wow then and then i got death by a thousand cuts and you're on your own kid she track fived when i tell you when she started to play death by a Thousand Cuts, and you're on your own, kid. She track-fived. When I tell you when she started to play Death by a Thousand Cuts, I've never experienced Beatlemania.

I wasn't alive then. Right. Everyone around me was screaming, sobbing, wailing at the skies like we had lost a great leader. It was unbelievable. The catharsis that came out when she sang Death by a Thousand Cuts. I can't even talk about it.

What do you think it is about that song? Because it has the quality. People love that song the way that it might as well be a track five. It's not. Oh, it's not. The Archer is track five. The Archer is track five. I guess that's what I mean.

And there you go. That's me showing my imperfections. And that wasn't me calling you in or anything. No, I know. I'm just saying, like, it had the energy of track five. You are so right. I don't know what it is. I think it's just one of those.

What can I say? I think Lover actually is sort of coming from behind. I am about to give it a full spin after. I literally on my to-do list, I was like, you know what? I should give Lover a full fucking rotation. Lover is actually sort of stomping to the front. It's saying, I've been here.

You disrespected me. And it's her fault kind of half because she picked the wrong singles. And I think that put a little weird taste in everyone's mouth. But Lover has at least five songs on that album that are Taylor canon. Cruel Summer, Death By a Thousand Cuts, Cornelius Street. Lover.

I would say Daylight, Afterglow. Lover. Lover. The Archer, fuck yes. I fucking love The Archer. And can I say, false god. You are a false god super fan. And I'm an I think

he knows super fan. She did false god right after I did my first weekend update live at SNL. Oh my god. And I was like, this is one of the best days of my life. Did you get to meet her then? She just hugged me and said, you're so funny. Oh my god, I love Taylor? I did. Nice. She just hugged me and said, you're so funny.

Oh my God, I love Taylor Swift. But I think she was just saying that in her politician way. You don't think she had seen the weekend update you just did? I think she was in her dressing room fucking throwing back shots with fucking, I don't know, Dylan O'Brien or something. Just a few

free false god shots. I think she doesn't give a fuck. And the way that I celebrate she's just like, whatever. Like, I'm just here. I'm hanging out. I am always confused by how much singers drink. So I was just watching Watch What Happens Live with the legend Sandra Bernhard and the legend

Alex Newell. That's your girl. I love Sandra. I love Sandra Bernhard. Sandra Bernhard was formative for me. She was on Watch What Happens Live with Alex Newell and they just won the Tony for Shucked. By the way, I don't know if I've talked about Shucked yet on the podcast. I fucking love Shucked. I thought Shucked was hilarious. I'm so sad

that I missed Alex in it. Is Alex no longer in Shucked? I think they're done maybe. Oh, I don't know. Correct me if I'm wrong. Maybe that's why they were able to be on Watch What Happens Live. Oh, that would be a shame. I know. I mean, it's right'm wrong. Maybe that's why they were able to be on What Happens Live. Oh, that would be a shame. I know.

I mean, it's right up my alley, that kind of show. Okay, so first of all, if you can't see Alex Newell in Shucked, just go on YouTube and watch the live performance of Alex Newell performing independently owned on The View. Just, honestly, so unbelievable live. It was stunning. Love shocked. Big endorsement for shocked.

And I realized I had never said that even after my big year of Broadway. And I had to say shocked was excellent. But the reason I say the drinking thing is because Alex Newell, like Andy Cohen asked the question, like, what's something you do every day that make you happy? And she said, drink.

And I was like, how do you drink every single day and sound like that? Maybe she was being relatable. Maybe she was being relatable queen and also being tongue-in-cheek, I believe the expression is. But when I drink a little bit, I wake up the next

day, I'm dry, croaky. Can't do it. Oh my god, can't do it. By the way, tongue-in-cheek? Isn't tongue always in cheek? I don't get it. Not god can't do it by the way tongue in cheek isn't tongue always in cheek I don't get it not when it's like this yeah you're right

Matt just stuck his tongue out and it was not in cheek it was not in cheek it was way out of cheek it was way out of pocket actually way out of pocket so talk more about Eros

because you have literally been to this concert more than anyone four times that's unbelievable and we're going again next summer guess what I'm going to shout out my sister Yang Yang she did something for herself she bought Eros Four times. That's unbelievable. And we're going again next summer. Guess what?

I'm going to shout out my sister, Yang Yang. She did something for herself. She bought Aeros for tickets for Paris. And I said, girl, you deserve it. Go. She deserves it. That's a mom move. Saying, you know what?

I'm taking the week off. To go see Taylor Swift. Brian, watch the kids. I'm going to Paris to watch this girl sing Paris. Brian, watch the kids. I'm going to Paris to watch this girl sing Paris. Brian, watch the kids. I'm going to Paris is a rule of culture. Rule of culture number 30. Brian, watch the kids.

I'm going to Paris. I have to tell you something I keep thinking about that you said, which I do believe is one of the top five funniest things you may have said ever, is your impression of Patti LuPone. I just took a drive with my daughter. We listened to Taylor Swift. She's a poet. She was a poetess.

I can't do a good Patti. That was really... You do do a good Patti. Oh, wait. Do we say? We're going to see Patti in Cherry Grove. At the Ice Palace, bitch. At the Ice Palace?

This is our plan. That is going to be so sick. We're getting breakfast at Floyd's. Palace, bitch. At the Ice Palace? This is our plan. That is going to be so sick. We're getting breakfast at Floyd's. Yes, honey. We're eating a nice bacon, egg, and cheese at a dog-themed restaurant. And then we're spending the day in Cherry Grove hours before Patty goes up on stage.

We bought general admission tickets. We're sitting in the fucking back. We're going to have the time of our lives. I cannot wait to see sitting in the fucking back. We're going to have the time of our lives. I cannot wait to see Patti at the Ice Palace. That is so... It's been said before, but it is literally iconic. Like, that will be a memory forever.

Like, what is she going to say with a room full of gays screaming at her? You know she's going to go off. I wonder if she'll take questions. I want to raise my hand. We should interview her. Should we get her on the pod? Let's get her on the pod.

Is this the best idea ever? You look into it, honey. I wonder if she'll stay in Cherry Grove on that Sunday night, and then the Monday we can record with her. Oh my God. To interview her on Fire Island, you are twisted. Wait. Keep them addicted.

I will keep them addicted. Wait, can I just put this out there into the atmosphere? Bowen Yang, Matt Rogers, Patti LuPone, the Las Culturistas interview at the Ice Palace, Monday day. Let's see. Let's see, shall we?

Let's see. It's not up to us. We would shred a Patti LuPone interview. You would shred. I feel like Patti... Oh, my God. Producer Anna says I'll email now. You would shred.

I feel like... What are you talking about? You do an amazing impression. That is not a good interview make. First of all, I guarantee she's a big Bowen Yang fan I guarantee it I don't think so honey it's about commitment

and he gets it he gets it that's my impression of Pat that's a good Patty I think we both have a good Patty Matt's got a Patty Matt's got a Patty big year for her

now do you want me to give the download on Carly Rae Jepsen Patty. Matt's got a Patty. Matt's got a Patty. Ice Palace, big year for her. Big year for her. Now, do you want me to give the download on Carly Rae Jepsen? So that was everything that happened with Eris. I mean, there's nothing more to say about Eris. It was incredible. You went to a concert. I was so excited for you. You were seeing Carly Rae Jepsen last night, and then the unthinkable happened.

First of all, the very thinkable. Well, first of all, it was thinkable because the day before, I'm looking at the weather forecast. It's at Pier 17 on the rooftop. Right. And it's an outdoor concert. Asking for it. Asking for it.

And I look at the weather forecast right at the concert time, 40% chance of rain. I go, okay, I'll chance it. I'll make dinner plans with Celeste. Yeah, I'm a friend of the pod. We go. we have dinner. I wake up yesterday, we're clear for rain. I said, great.

But things can really change. The fickle nature of New York weather. I mean, it was in August. It was, Tony, it's very unpredictable. And what did happen? It's an overcast night, evening. And she sings three and a half songs. Which were?

Let's sort the whole thing out. Okay. Run away with me. Thank God. We got one of the national anthems. Thank God. Absolutely. Then she sings Surrender My Heart.

Thank God. I love Surrender My Heart. Excellent. them thank god absolutely then she sings um surrender my heart thank god oh i love surrender my heart excellent i want to i want to be brave enough to show you my not so perfect family oh my god she stuck that in a song that's an amazing song that the loneliest Time, we didn't talk about how Midnight's completely fucking overshadowed that album. It did stomp all over it. It's better than Dedicated. I like it better than Dedicated.

I think so. I think that's actually, that's not a hot take. It's not a hot take. Not a hot take at all. Then she sings Joshua Tree. And I love Dedicated. We love Dedicated.

Yeah. She sings Joshua Tree. Well, no, during Surrender My Heart, there's lightning. Oh. joshua tree uh-huh well no during surrender my heart there's lightning oh and we go uh-oh then joshua tree i'm sure she's getting screamed at in her fucking earpiece carly you gotta call it you have to call it yeah carly you gotta call it so she goes before and then she goes okay we get a little bit of lightning. The sky's excited, but we'll be right back. Hang tight. She and her band run off the stage.

Everyone in the audience is going, oh, well, okay, let's just wait a bit. Within 30 seconds on the screens, today's event has ended. No, no. Was it raining? And then it was raining. But it was just so

fun. Celeste and I were laughing, cackling about it the entire night. Oh, man. To go from hang tight, okay? 30 seconds later, today's show has ended. But then she sort of, I saw she came back out and was sort of the president. Came back out was the president

said, I'm so sorry. No one's getting electrocuted tonight though. Woo. And then everyone cheered. And then what can I say? We were out at dinner. We saw her stories. She said, first 150 people at Rockwood Music Hall tonight were doing a sing-along. And that is a

small ass venue. Quarter circular stage in the corner of that room. We did not go. Yeah, you didn't make it over. She's doing a matinee today at 3. I don't think I can make it. So is this the makeup? This is the makeup at 3 p.m.

Oh, the next day. On a Tuesday. The next day. I don't think people have work. I don't think people can go. You can't go? I don't know if I can. Maybe I will.

I don't know. We'll see. Maybe right after this, I'll just go by myself. It might be really fun. Is it a nice day today? It's okay. Yeah. But she's doing two shows today.

She's doing a matinee at three, and then she's doing her regular show at eight. She has another. Good for her. I think, listen, Carly Rae is just as Canadian as they come. Just puts in the work, is talented, just makes sure everyone has a good time i always show carly ray her respect i've seen her a couple times she puts on a show yeah i fucking love carly right and the new album is really good so good and also we just showed her her respect when we did and this is a segue we did the top 10 pop girlies debut

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It's queer culture only. I'm really like, I was at jury duty and we were talking about this. Our ideas for the top 10 list. And like, I think this is like a perfect new injection of fun, fancy free. Well, it's a perfect new injection of fun, fancy free. And that is the review for us for our own podcast that we're going to start posting. You know, when they're like, the New York Times says four stars, a ravishing romp. It's going to be, be we're gonna get a poster

for this and it's gonna say and the lost cult says a perfect a perfect pure injection of fun fancy free title of app

oh my god I love that title of app a perfect pure injection of fun fancy free oh my god I love that Bo

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Indictment Watch! We are on Indictment Watch. And we got him! We got him. I can't do it. We got him. Hold on, let me get this fucking buzzer. Hold on, I guess Bowen has a little bit of a buzzer.

Sometimes he gets things delivered to his apartment, like food, et cetera, while we're recording the episodes. And then what I get to do is I can just sort of watch him scurry away from the computer and then run down the stairs. And now he's coming back, and I think you're not aware of how adorable it is when you do that. Well, this might be the last one you ever see because I am not dealing with a buzzer on my next place.

What are you going to deal with then? How are you going to know when someone's coming for you? Honey, it's called a door person. Oh my goodness, wealth. Bowen Yang returning to his roots as a wealthy person. Those are not my roots. They are your roots. Matt, I think... He doesn't like when I do this. It's not that I. They are your roots. Matt, I think

he doesn't like when I do this. It's not that I don't like when you do this. I just think it has a collateral effect because people do end up believing out there in the real world. They go, well, I heard that you grew up white. And that is not the case. He was born a poor

white child. And he grew up was born a poor white child. Yeah. And he grew up to be a rich Asian man. Yes. That is the narrative I want. The American dream! Woo! You can change races!

And class. What was her name? Dolezal. Rachel Dolezal. What was her name? That's Rural Culture number 80. What was her name? Dolezal. Rachel Dolezal. What was her name? That's Rula Culture number 80. What was her name? Dolezal. You know, I can't wait for that

biopic. I can't believe they haven't made it already. Who played her? Angelina Jolie and her A Mighty Heart geish? Remember that? Remember when she played? Oh my god. Remember when Angelina Jolie played Black Woman? Then she's perfect. She's qualified. It's so recent that all that was happening.

Angelina Jolie played a black woman. Jared Leto played a trans woman. It's so recent. And they get rewarded for it. It's amazing. So amazing. We give them their flowers, queen. Now, what do we have on the docket today?

Because there are lots of things to talk about. Do we talk about them? What do we have to talk about. Do we talk about them? What do we have to talk about? Do we have any opinion on the Lizzo stuff? Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Okay, so can I tell you my hot take on the Lizzo stuff? Something I'm observing is that people will be like,

oh yeah, I knew about this. Isn't that a funny thing? It's like a funny knee-jerk thing that we all do now, but yeah, go. It's that thing of when a celebrity news item comes out, someone will just go like, oh yeah, people have been saying that for a long time. It's like, I know like two or three people who heard this about Lizzo,

like this Lizzo news broke. And if you don't know what the Lizzo news is, it's that a few of her backup dancers have come out and they're suing her for like sexual harassment and like professional abuse and like retaliation false imprisonment like there's like a whole list of things that they're suing her for and it basically comes down to the fact that she's like a very cruel boss who like works them to the bone and then i guess at a club in amsterdam she forced a dancer or two to like

touch a nude performer apparently like, like, you know, when they've expressed desires to change the work environment, Lizzo retaliated against them, and, like, it's just this whole bunch of, like, this fleet of information about how Lizzo is, like, a terror. It's not good, but it's just funny because this stuff came out about her, and, like, two or three people I know, like I said, were like, oh, yeah, people have been saying about this about her for a long time. This is a reckoning. This has been coming. The Lizzo thing has been a thing for a while and now we're ready to say it. I'm like, what? I had never heard of this. And how did you? Well, I also have, I never trust. It's not that I look, I'm sure I never, I haven't, we all, as a culture, heard so many different people be like,

this person has a reckoning coming for them soon? Oh, absolutely. And then most of the time it never happens. It never comes to pass, which I guess is no problem. But it's also like, my takeaway on the meta-n meta narrative of this is we can never know. Literally no one knows. I mean, here's the thing.

It's like I watched the interviews with these dancers and I do believe them. I do believe that they had a horrible experience. You know what I mean? It's just this thing of like, I sort of wish for them that there was more because people are going to I think they're going to denounce them I mean like it's weird what's happening on Twitter it's like equal parts like

fuck Lizzo and fuck these dancers in a way that seems very Twitter if there's something that really happened I just wish it felt like they had more of a case because I feel like it's very easy for things like this to get dismissed because it is just like this happened to me and i think there's not much like concrete proof but like what i think is helping them is the fact that like you know her former director of her documentary has come out

and being like she was toxic and arrogant and like was treating people this way i think is like other dancers are coming out and being like this was was also my experience. So if this is the case, it's like incredibly disappointing. But also I do think that there is a thing where when someone comes out and makes themselves like the face of an issue, I always feel a little bit like you kind of have to question that. Always. You know what I mean?

Truly. What are we the face of? Friendship? I'm making this about us. No, but like, totally. It's like, if someone is really embodying in this very intentional way, some

sort of, not virtue, I guess that word is like so fucked up now. It's just hard to back that up. You know what I mean? Because she's a human being. She's got a bunch of contradictions, obviously. And I just think, if she did make these girls feel this way, that is a problem. Because she

is out here saying, this is what I'm all about. This is what I'm all about. No part of me wants to believe this about her, but I do. And I don't know how to, I don't know where you go from here outside of just like, I hope that, you know, if there's something really wrong that it gets dealt with. Totally. These girls seem like traumatized and I just don't want them to be dismissed because it's a really brave thing and a very vulnerable position to take to come out there and you also have to think like what are they gaining from it they're gaining

nothing from this and 99 of the time whoever is putting themselves in opposition to someone on the other end of a power dynamic like they they never have anything to gain. It's just how it is with like accusers of like assault. It's just, it's always the way like societally it's all set up is all so fucked up anyway. And it's like, it's all a huge bummer. It's also like,

we know from knowing, but like you never want to hear and believe that someone is an asshole. Now I believe it every time. Like so many people are fucking assholes. It's really weird when you see people with so much to lose act like that because it's going to get out.

It is going to get out. The media is too sensitive now. People are too interested in this type of thing. I mean, we're past the point of like, yeah, being an asshole is like a means to an end. It's not.

You're, it's, I don't understand behaving like that. And then there's like an ego thing to thinking you can get away with it. Right. But then like people do see that as like an additional pressure. It's like an additional strain on their like psyche where it's like where it then feeds it. Not that this is the same thing, but it's like people who are always like, I'm not allowed to do that anymore. I'm not allowed to say that anymore. This would have flown a few years ago.

It's like that is also a concentric circle around this thing of being an asshole, I guess, or just being harmful to other people. It's that if you tell them they can't... If the media is sort of exposing people for this kind of behavior,

then that then also adds this counter force where they go, well, I feel even more repressed or something because I'm not allowed to behave in this pure id way. Right, exactly. Does that make sense? Especially in creative atmospheres. And it's also like, let's just say this.

There's nothing illegal about being an asshole. Like if you are running the show and you're an asshole, like you can do it that way. I mean, it might get out. People might be like, oh, like I have something to say about it. But where it's iffy is like if there's like illegal stuff going on which is where i think stuff with like this lawsuit and like other allegations that come out like is she an asshole or was there something illegal it feels like something illegal that was

happening was maybe the retaliation on them losing their jobs and certainly this issue that happened in like an amsterdam club where lizzo apparently bullied and forced one or more of the dancers to touch a live performer when they didn't want to do that which is sexual harassment and people should also know like that is still a professional environment when you're with all of your colleagues so that would be like if this were an office scenario if an office full of people went out to an Amsterdam club and then their boss said, hey, touch that nude performer and started yelling and being like, you know, chanting their name and egging them on to do it.

And then they did it and they felt a certain way about it. That would be illegal. That would be a violation of professional atmosphere. And Lizzo and her backup dancers and her team, that is also a professional atmosphere. So that and her backup dancers and her team that is also a professional atmosphere so that's where there's an issue but she's allowed to be an asshole you know what i'm saying it's like yeah it's just where it gets to the place of misconduct where's the separation so i think that's like that gets weird in like the whole thing of like it being

reported in the media like all these things we should also say lizzo responded and she's emphatic that this is not the case yeah you know it's also weird in a creative atmosphere it feels like there's more gray area than there is but there's really not when someone is saying to you i don't want to do this thing i'm not comfortable and they want to be treated with respect and you don't do that then there's not really the excuse of gray area creative artistic atmosphere anymore. You're forcing someone to do something they don't want to do. You're making them uncomfortable.

And then ultimately they get fired because they didn't jive with you. That's wrong. Mm-hmm. God, you are giving the view. You are giving should have gone to law school. You are! I want to see to law school. You are.

I want to see you and Sonny go head to head. I'm sure Sonny would play devil's advocate and be like, well, now I feel like Lizzo's getting canceled. I don't like this cancel culture. I went to law school. I read the book.

I read the book. I did see a psychic and she said that my partner is a lawyer and she sees him in a suit. Now, you've seen a psychic recently? I saw a psychic two days ago. Not the same one as before. No, no, no, no, no. I gotta say, with some distance,

I didn't like that one. No, I know. And that one's in the past. Great. That one's in the past. Great. That one's in the past. But this is actually a friend of mine, an old friend of mine. And I got a reading done over the phone.

And it was really interesting. And she said that she sees my partner as being in a suit. And they're going to be a very solid person. And they are not, she says, this is really important, not in the entertainment industry. I was going to say it was going to be Ted Sarandos. It was going to be your husband. Wouldn't fuck him anymore. Maybe back in the day.

Now with the strike, can't be fucking Ted. Maybe in the DVD era. Sure. Maybe. Yeah. Well, that's exciting. How do you feel about that? A guy in a suit, not. Maybe, yeah. Well, that's exciting. How do you feel about that? A guy in a suit, not in the entertainment industry.

I'm so psyched that this person said that they're not in the entertainment industry. Because now it's like... A liability. Well, now it's like you can rule everyone out, which I love. Oh my God. Everyone?

I don't think a relationship with someone in the entertainment industry is for me or for you for that matter. I go back and forth and forth and back and I don't know where I'll end. Do you feel like they can't be anywhere near it? Like you wouldn't date like a fucking

grip or something? You know what I mean? You know what? I guess like when I say in the entertainment industry, I guess I mean like an entertainer or someone that's like really in it. Like someone that's like, I guess too similar to me in what I do. I'm excited about that being off the table

just because honestly, like I guess the stupid pie in the sky thing of being like, I just want to be someone who gets it. You know what I mean? Like, but that is ultimately it being like, I just want to be someone who gets it. You know what I mean? Like, but that is ultimately it, right? Like you want to be someone who gets it and is like a respecter and a fan and supporter of what you do, but not someone that also does it. Totally. And you just want some, because, because what I'm all about right now is like, I need someone to like broaden my life. And I feel like the best way to that is on some professional occupational levels for them to like give me something different.

Bring in a new stream of reality, if that makes sense. Also ground. You know what I mean? Like that's another whole part of it. I should also say like two out of my three exes have been in the entertainment industry and that was never the problem you know what i mean like so then yeah it's not like it's like an hard no it's just helpful that a psychic said it and we trust this one i think so yeah okay that's good That's good. I mean, okay.

Also, what else did she say? She said like, well, I don't know. She also said, she's like, you have to talk about the things that you go through. You have to. You have to. As if you don't? Well. I feel like you do a great job and I really do compliment you.

I feel like you are one of the most emotionally cogent people I know. I try to do a respectful job now of sharing what I'm going through with respect to people in my life. I try to do a respectful job while honoring myself and what I'm going through, whatever, but also not being who I was back in the day. Being like, today Henry did this. We were young. We were so young. Years ago, we were young. and that's a rule of culture

number 72 years ago we were young and made mistakes well you sharing details about your life with Henry was never an issue either was it? it was with him it was with him he was like hey did you say

this thing on the podcast because people are asking me about see. It was with him. I see. He was like, hey, did you say this thing on the podcast? Because people are asking me about it. And I was like, oh, yeah, I guess I did. And I don't know. It's just like, that's a weird thing. But also, it's like, I feel like anybody that knows who we are knows that we get on the podcast and have episodes like this where we talk to each other about what's going on.

So if that's not for you, don't try to stick a finger in my butthole then. I know. You only stick it in there if that's for you, if you're okay with being talked about. If you hear this podcast and you say, wow, that's really crazy. They went into this, that, the other thing.

And then you see us at Thai tea. Don't come over to us and try to stick your finger in our butthole. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Only do it if you don't know. Like, imagine me, a faggot, coming up to you at my fucking knockdown center. Ready?

I'm sidling up to you. Like, Dance Tonight by Dua Lipa is playing. I'm like, hey. Suddenly you feel my hands slide down your butt and I start to finger your butthole and I go,

I really have been identifying with your Lexapro journey. That's so nice. What are you doing? Fingering, yeah. Ow. Remember when we went to Miami?ami yes that was a finger fest remember we went out to that one nightclub in miami oh my god yeah who was getting fingered oh shit we were in miami we went to that one like super duper club were you getting fingered so i went out to the middle

sometimes like i'll go out into the middle. Sometimes I'll go out to the middle of the dance floor, like just by myself and just like float around. And like sometimes she'll start dancing with a guy. And like I was just getting fingered. Oh my God.

I had no idea. Oh yeah. This is one of those moments where, and I think it's just important to acknowledge, where I feel like you and I are in different realities in a space like that. Let's just say that.

I mean, you might be right, but also here's what I'll say. If you soar out there and you go up to someone and you go, hey, and you put your hands around their neck like this and explain to them how I'm dancing right now. Yeah, Matt is basically so seductively putting his arms around your neck. And I'm also wiggling my butt.

And he's wiggling his butt. He's like really like opening up. You could get a finger slit in there. Someone's digit would slip. I don't think anyone looks at me and goes... I'm going to finger him. I'm going to finger him. I have to tell you, that's definitely wrong.

I think people definitely want to finger him. I'm going to finger him. I have to tell you, that's definitely wrong. I think people definitely want to finger you. The Real Housewives of New York City are back for another bite of the Big Apple. Look who it is. Joined by elite new friends. Rebecca Minkoff. Have you ever heard of her? But things could change in a New York Minute. She had this wild night and ended up getting pregnant by some other guy.

What? You've told her? Not today, Satan. Not today. The Real Housewives of New York City. All new Tuesdays at 9 on Bravo or stream it on City TV+. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty and I'm the host of On Purpose. My latest episode is with Jelly Roll. This episode is one of the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had. We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story from being in and out of prison from the age of 13 to being one of today's biggest artists. We talk about guilt, shame, body image, and huge life transformations.

I was a desperate, delusional dreamer, and the desperate part had me in a lot of trouble. I encourage delusional dreamers. body image and huge life transformations. accountability for anything in my life. I was the kid that if you asked what happened, I immediately started with everything but me. It took years for me to break that, like years of work. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust me, you won't want to miss this one. I'm Cheryl Swoops, WNBA champ, three-time Olympian, and basketball hall of famer. I'm a mom and I'm a woman. I'm Tarika Foster-Brasby, journalist, sports reporter, basketball analyst, a wife, and I'm also a woman. And on our new podcast, we're talking about the real obstacles women face day to day. See, athlete or not, we all know it takes a lot as women to be at the top of our game.

We want to share those stories about balancing work and relationships, motherhood, career shifts. You know, just all the s*** we go through. Because no matter who you are, there are levels to what we experience as women. And T and I, well, we have no problem going there. Listen to Levels to This with Cheryl Swoops and Tarika Foster-Brasby, an iHeart Women's Sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment.

You can find us on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Speaking of a tearing experience I had in Amsterdam, went to the bathhouse. I was like, this is not the place for me. Was getting no play.

I was like, okay, whatever. And then I left. I hate it. It's truly a thing where like, even like Julio talks about going to like Planet Pride. He's like, well, no one was flirting with me. So I walked across the street to rec and I had a great time I was like if no one's flirting with Julio in a space then like

there's no hope that's because they're all on G and can't see anything by the way like we have problems with the G thing and this is gonna like light the community up but like you guys are taking it too far I mean it's crazy you go to spaces now,

everyone's a fucking soulless, personality-less zombie because the G thing has gone too fucking far. It's just weird when you're doing it all the time. I think it's a scourge on our community,

and I know we sound like fucking squares, squares, squares. I don't think so. I think it's a scourge on our community. And I know we sound like fucking squares, squares, squares. I don't think so. I think it's an issue. But I was going to say, I know it seems like we're like, ooh, drugs, but literally not all drugs are created equal.

No. This is literally a drug that is lethal if it is like not so carefully used. What's G, Hans is asking. Hans says, what's G? GHB, it is more commonly known as the date rape drug. Gamma hydroxybutyric acid.

You put it in alcohol, you know, you fucking pass out. No, you don't put it in alcohol. You put it in it. Oh, you put it in alcohol. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So basically, it's like an alternative to drinking alcohol that tons and tons and tons and tons of gay men do now. And it's gotten to the point where like, I'll be at a party and it'll be most gays are just

doing G. And I'm like, then you sort of see them like fade out. And I'm like, why are we a creative, dynamic, like gorgeous community that can connect with each other only to not do that? My thing is, I feel like at this point almost everybody in this gay community of ours, the world over, has been

affected by a G moment in that I literally had to help a stranger get home, put them in a fucking Uber. A person I don't know from fucking Adam had to make sure they didn't die. I'm like, you is ruining my night. You're ruining my night.

No, it's getting weird. It's almost like weird to even bring up because it's so commonplace. And it's just to the point where it's just like... I'm fine taking this stance. I'm fine taking this stance. Like mid-30s, let's like zoom out and look at our life for a second.

Like, let's be real with each other here. This is not why we're doing this. And I honestly, I'm not saying this like, fuck you. I'm trying to say this compassionately. I'm just saying it's really getting weird. Yeah, that's how I feel. I'm not like telling people how to live their lives.

I'm just going, there's a collective thing happening here that is strange to me. To be noticed. Yeah. Anyway, there's a collective thing happening here that is strange to me. To be noticed. Yeah. Anyway, what's going on with uncoupling? What's going on with uncoupling? Divorce.

Divorce is in the air. Who's divorced now? Oh, wait. Everybody. Who is divorced now? Okay, let's see. Trudeau. Oh, yeah. Someone's like. I mean, everybody. Hold on. Yeah, go, go, go's see. Trudeau. Oh, yeah.

I mean, everybody. Hold on. Yeah, go, go, go, go. Someone was like, Kim K is going to go for Trudeau. That's so funny. Oh, that would be amazing. I can see Taylor Swift going for Trudeau.

I can see Kim K. I can see Kylie Jenner. I can see... Oh, my God. Well, look, here's what's going on. We've got fucking Trudeau, de Blasio and his wife and Trillane Billy Porter

Sofia Vergara and Joe Manganiello oh right I knew about them Rosalia Tina Knowles the list goes on like something is happening this summer this is breakup year I'm telling you 2023 it's something going on it's something something is happening this summer. This is breakup year. I'm telling you, 2023, it's something going on.

It's something, something is in the air. How do you feel being on trend? How do you feel being on trend with breakup year? I feel being on trend. Not good. I mean, like it's horrible. Going through a breakup is horrible. It's awful.

There's no way to make it chic or like, ooh, it's in right now. Like it doesn't make it any worse. No, and also it's like, it's equally, maybe not equally painful, but it's so painful to be the person doing it as well as the person going through it. And it honestly chases you away from even getting into relationships in the first place, which is like something I'm sort of dealing with now is it's like, I'm definitely dating a good bit, but I am so hesitant to get into something with someone that can hurt me in the ways in which I have been hurt, had to hurt other people. Like, it's almost like when you go on a date with someone and it's going good, you look them in the eyes and you're like so are we gonna ruin each other's lives or what oh my god it's just like are we gonna get into it or what like

are you gonna be the person that i have to cry with what's the aaron brockovich line are you gonna be you're gonna be another thing that I have to survive? I'll tell you what, I'm not up to it. And I'm not. I'm actually not. I know you're not. Hal said this to me the other day. He was like, I feel like you need to take a break because you don't know what you want.

And I was like, it's not even that I don't know what I want. It's that I'm not up to the emotions that go with, I don't know. It's so difficult. Yeah. I completely understand. And it makes me sad because I feel like you deserve everything you want. I mean, likewise.

But the thing is, it is fucking hard to get there and it's work. And then you start to feel like, I don't want to be like, you know, a chump for not wanting to go through it again. But it's work and then you start to feel like i don't want i don't want to be like you know a chump for not wanting to go through it again but it's just difficult i think especially like when you do have a lot to give and i feel like another thing the psychic said to me she was like well you have the you have the ability to love unconditionally congratulations and i was just like and i was like yeah i think i that's true, which is why when it feels conditional for someone else or you realize when things change, it's just like too painful. Well, I mean, I think what's happening too for you is that in order to like avoid pain or like heavy investment or some such, like you are then selecting, there's a selection process there where it's like, then you just end up going on like a bunch of, I'm not saying this is what's happening, but then it's like,

it creates a thing where it's like, you would only go on like mid dates anyway, where like the guy doesn't challenge you or doesn't stimulate or spark something. Not challenging, but like certainly not happening. Like I'm definitely a lot pickier and choosier with if I, I mean,

we've said this, like if I go out with someone, like I really want to be there. Like, and I lot pickier and choosier. I mean, we've said this. If I go out with someone, I really want to be there. And I feel like you're the same way. Yeah, kind of. I feel like I'll take what I can get at this point. No, that's wrong. It's okay. It's fine.

It's fine. Can I just say, I think the Lexapro is doing good things. I do feel like I am miles leagues in a better place than I was you really seem so much better you can tell girl? absolutely

I also think you're now even though it's weird because everything is shut down it's like you're now living a normal life your life was abnormal your life is abnormal. I know. I picked up dry cleaning today. It's like that Charlie Bardet tweet.

If I see someone with dry cleaning, I go, that's a fucking errand. I'm like, I'm running errands. You know what? I had dinner with Sweetie last night. By the way, we need to do... Summer of Cunt is happening. It will be a late Summer of Cunt. I was talking to her last night

and she was like, you know, it's so interesting. Like, especially with the strike and everything with no one working, like you can sort of focus on like, what is like a routine?

Because she was saying like, it's very difficult for her to get anything done without a routine. So she was saying like, you know, I wake up in the morning, like I make my coffee, I do my thing.

Like I, I have like a set schedule of things I do. And then I said to her when she was saying at the end of all this like routine stuff, I was like, you know, that's like an adult normal life. And she's like, yeah, it is. And I don't have to feel guilty that I'm not like doing other things. It's just like, I don't know. Like sometimes the best days I have are when I feel like I accomplished small tasks. Like I did laundry. I like went and picked up something

that I've been meaning to get. Like there's been like weeks and weeks and weeks where I've needed to go get laundry detergent. And I went out and got it. And I was like, in the words of Ken Ryan Gosling, I said, sublime. Oh my God. Just like little things that now you have the time to do which would have been so overwhelming for you which is wrong oh i mean it is literally sublime in the sense that it's like beyond good beyond great it's

something deeper than good it's like like, wow, this feels right. Yeah. Anyway. To just do like tiny little human things for yourself. I know, literally. But you seem so much better because that's the case. Right. I'm just worried that like the Lexapro is not the right doll.

It might be more of a Prozac or a Zoloft situation, but I don't have, I literally don't have the time to be like fucking knocked off of my feet for two weeks per drug, you know what I mean? But can I say, you do have the time. You do have the time. And yet I feel like this is what happens.

I've been like waking up zombified and then I go, and then I think it's okay, because literally Katie Gavin, Muna, we were talking and they were asking me like, well, is that a good kind of tired? Or is it like, is it a good kind of like down or is it a bad kind of down? I'm like, oh, that's such an interesting, like nuanced question. And I was like, I can't tell yet, but I think what happens is I wake up zombified and I go, huh, that's interesting. And then I immediately start to feel bad about feeling tired as if I'm not doing enough with my day. And then I immediately start to feel bad about feeling tired

as if I'm not doing enough with my day. And yet I am kind of doing stuff with my days. I am like going to the gym. I'm like picking up dry cleaning. I'm like doing shit. Yeah. This is just the adjustment. I think that like for me, what I've experienced is,

well, one thing is my anxiety is like kind of gone, which has really been a big change. Like, for example, like, last week, the second day I went to ERAs, I was going to meet up with a bunch of, like, people, many of whom I didn't really know, to pregame before the concert, and that is the kind of thing that would have driven me

up the wall with anxiety, especially because low-key, there were going to be, like, a lot of hot gays there. And so, or, like, what I perceived to be like you know like sure and so i was getting like a little anxious i was and that's the kind of thing like that i even started therapy to deal with is just like gatherings of large strangers of gay men or strangers like just like that makes me nervous and so i walked into this thing and i was like oh my god i didn't even think about the fact that i would ordinarily be really anxious about this.

Like that was eliminated. So maybe what you're experiencing is like, you used to have a comfort with feeling emotions in more extreme. And because you're not feeling those emotions and extremes are like, because you're not like moved to feel by every little thing, you're thinking like, there's something that's like keeping me down. Is that maybe it? Probably. I think maybe

with serotonin reentering my system, with the noise in my head sort of dissipating, that has been the thing that has kept me up and awake and alert at all times. That anxiety, and now that that is

going away, there's no buttressing for my energy so it fucking crashes and i'm going yeah whoa was that the engine i was running on this whole time because literally working at my day job it is like every day of the week your emotions are being driven one way or the other it's like a fucking switchboard it's like either you feel great on wednesday or you feel. It's like either you feel great on Wednesday or you feel terrible on Wednesday. Either you feel amazing on Saturday or you feel terrible.

It's like, and every week it's that. And then on top of that, it was the travel and whatever. Yeah, and also probably something chemical. And also, not for nothing, but maybe this will be a good thing because it'll neutralize those feelings. I'm interested to see how you feel

when you go back on this. Me too. If you stick with it. Yeah. If it ever comesize those feelings. I'm interested to see how you feel when you go back on this. Me too. If you stick with it. Yeah. Or if it ever comes back. Surely. Who knows? The Real Housewives of New York City

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All new, Tuesdays at 9 on Bravo or stream it on City TV Plus. 13 to being one of today's biggest artists. We talk about guilt, shame, body image, and huge life transformations. I was a desperate delusional dreamer and the desperate part got me in a lot of trouble. I encourage delusional dreamers. Be a delusional dreamer. Just don't be a desperate delusional dreamer. I just had such an anger. I was just so mad at life. Everything that wasn't

right was everybody's fault but mine. I had such a victim mentality. I took zero accountability for anything in my life. I was the kid that if you asked what happened, I immediately started with everything but me. It took years for me to break that, like years of work. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust me, you won't want to miss this one. I'm Cheryl Swoops, WNBA champ, three-time Olympian, and Basketball Hall of Famer. I'm a mom, and I'm a woman. I'm Tarika Foster-Brasby, journalist, sports reporter, basketball analyst, a wife, and I'm also a woman. And on our new podcast, we're talking about the real obstacles women face

day to day. See, athlete or not, we all know it takes a lot as women to be at the top of our game. We want to share those stories about balancing work and relationships, motherhood, career shifts, you know, just all the we go through. Because no matter who you are, there are levels to what we experience as women. And T and I, well, we have no problem going there. Listen to Levels to This with Cheryl Swoops and Tarika Foster-Brasby, an iHeart Women's Sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find us on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty,

founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. it. This has been a beautifully messy episode, hasn't it? Okay. This is Matt Rogers' I Don't Think So Honey. His time starts now. I Don't Think So Honey Grindr. I deleted it. You can too. There's a lot of other, you know, hookup apps and dating apps you can use. I just think the app is too toxic. And I'm going to be real. You can look it up. They just fired in retaliation a whole bunch of their employees because they wanted to unionize, and that was completely unfair, and it's bullshit, and I have people that I love and care about that were affected by it.

30 seconds. Toxic app, toxic company. I mean, it's just, whenever you hear the word, it kind of sends a chill up your spine. So why are we doing it? Here's my message to the gay community. You don't have to do fucking anything

you don't want to do. So if you don't want to be on this app, fucking delete it because I did and I'm doing just fine. And you go on Instagram, it's basically a hookup app. You go on all these other ones. You want to sniff it up, girl? Do that thing.

I'm just saying because everyone's doing it, you don't have to do it. Grindr included. I don't think so, honey. That's one minute. Beautiful. Fucking union busting. I mean, it's like that's... Bullshit.

Evil. Evil. Legally very, very murky to fucking retaliate against your employees for wanting to unionize. Like, not the right thing to do. I think they fucked up by, like, letting go of all their people. Disgusting. And a terrible app. Terrible fucking pay structure.

Those tiers are fucking stupid. Extra unlimited. It don't make no sense. I have nothing good to say. It's gotten to the point where it's like, I don't know, it's kind of like Twitter at this point. You know, where it's been like, let's move on. It makes us feel bad. It makes us feel

bad, and now we have black and white proof that it's just as shitty on the inside. And that's my, I don't think so, honey. Everybody listening who uses it, think about the last great experience you had I might have been 27

yeah I might have been 25, 26, 27 and maybe it was good because it was the first like good random sex I had had but that wasn't cause of the app no no no no hate that shit

anyway this is Bowen Yang's I Don't Think So Honey and it's time starts now I Don't Think So Honey The Real Housewives of New York City season 14 I'm sticking with you to the end I am really

this episode I like listen I didn't finish it but I hear is Bryn the new villain now or something I can't keep up anymore and it's already we're only four episodes in and I'm already like falling off. Listen, I am going to stick with it, but I am, I think we need to stop

pretending like it's like an amazing new reset. I think I'm still going back and watching the old episodes and going, and look, I would say this openly to, you know, people's faces, important people's faces, I would say this is not giving the give, you know what I mean?

I'm missing the energy, the spark this had. Right now, this feels a little textureless. Jenna does not have what it takes to hold the center and to be in the center of the tableau. And so I just think we need to really give it a new shot of energy. And that's one minute I could not disagree more.

That's fine. I thought this was the best episode of the season. I love the season. All the women and it's early, Bo. I mean, like with Housewives, it's like you have to look at it as a collective season. I think right now we're getting to know all of them and really getting to see like how they tick and everything.

Like, I mean, I almost feel like when a season, when a new franchise starts too hot, like Salt Lake, it's like almost like it's setting it up to go down. Like, I think we get two amazing seasons of Salt Lake and then one dud season of for season three. But then I think I understand that there is like a cadence and a rhythm and

like ebbs and flows. I just think I'm not latching on the way that I would have hoped to. And I was really open to really getting into this season. And I will. And I'm sure I'm just saying right now, as of episode four, I'm like, who cares?

I mean, I'm not saying you will eat your hat. I'm saying, I hope you eat your hat because I really like it. I mean, like I think Brynn is a star. She was also excellent on Watch What Happens Live with Marlo. I mean, like, I think Brynn is a star. She was also excellent on Watch What Happens Live with Marlo. I mean, you should definitely watch to the end.

I think there's some really interesting stuff there, like interesting contradictions in her personality that come out. I love Jenna. I think that she is doing an amazing job. I really enjoy watching her. I'm actually kind of obsessed with her. I fell down a YouTube wormhole of her the other day. I actually like- She's incredible. I'm obsessed a YouTube wormhole of her the other day. She's incredible. I'm obsessed. She's popping up on my algorithm too on YouTube. I'm not saying she's not a star. I'm saying any other season, any other city, she would be

the fun, quirky, not side housewife, but she would not be carrying it. I think they're relying her to carry this, even though she seems a little uncomfortable doing that. That's what I'm. And I think they're relying her to carry this even though she seems a little uncomfortable doing that. That's what I'm saying. I think that

she's starting to come into her own in that regard. And I think it has to marinate. But I guess what I'm saying is like I'm liking the energy of what I'm seeing. I also did order Uba Hot. I will stress it has not come yet. But I'm very excited for my Uba Hot

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