Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "A Piece of Gay Information" (w/ Solomon Georgio)
Episode Date: July 3, 2019Girlfriend, Solomon Georgio is so on. Matt and Bowen are joined by Solomon to discuss drawing your own superhero porn as a child, Drag Race, Marianne Williamson and Renata Klein's twice a week coffee ...dates in a parallel universe. Plus, on the heels of the first Democratic debate, they pose the question: do celebrities know that teeth come in medium?---MERCH! MERCH! GET YOUR LAS CULTURISTAS MERCH!https://www.teepublic.com/stores/las-culturistasSUBSCRIBE ON APPLE PODCASTS TODAY!CONNECT W/ LAS CULTURISTAS ON FACEBOOK & TWITTER for the best in "I Don't Think So, Honey" action, updates on live shows, conversations with the Las Culturistas community, and behind-the scenes photos/videos:www.facebook.com/lasculturistastwitter.com/lasculturistasLAS CULTURISTAS IS A FOREVER DOG PODCAST. LAS CULTURISTAS IS PRODUCED BY EMMA FOLEY.http://foreverdogproductions.com/fdpn/podcasts/las-culturistas/ Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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you get your podcasts. Oh, my goodness. Wow. Las Culturistas.
Ding dong, Las Culturistas calling.
And girlfriend, you are so on.
And I would tell a girlfriend, you are so on.
Girlfriend, you are so on.
And I would tell a girlfriend, you are so on.
My first call would be to the Prime Minister of New Zealand.
And I would tell a girlfriend, you are so on.
She's out of a fucking Tennessee Williams play.
It's Missy Pyle doing a Tennessee Williams character.
It's a gift to Cecily Strong. It's a gift to Cecily Strong.
It's a gift to Cecily Strong.
It is Mary, it is Cathy Ann.
Well, I'm upset because I actually did that bit a lot on stage in 2013.
I was doing Marianne Williamson all around town.
You could see me at the pit.
I was doing Marianne Williamson down.
Down, honey.
I created Marianne Williamson.
I am Marianne Williamson.
I was the first Marianne Williamson.
I'll be the last.
I'll be the first Marianne Williamson president. And if you tell me no, I'll say goodbye to you all alone. Marianne Williamson. I am Marianne Williamson. I was the first Marianne Williamson. I'll be the last. I'll be the first Marianne Williamson president.
And if you tell me no, I'll say good-bye to you on my own.
Marianne Williamson, if you're listening.
Oh, if you're listening.
Donald Trump, if you're listening.
Can you even believe?
The vixen, honey.
The vixen.
The vixen thought she was the vixen.
Honestly, now all of this backlash is coming out like, oh, she's an anti-vaxxer, which is not totally true.
She's just like new agey enough where she called it Orwellian and draconian.
Thank you for saying that it's not necessarily true because it's not necessarily true.
It's not necessarily true.
She's just one of those people who's like, the pharmaceutical industry is throwing pills at you every day for stuff that you don't need pills for.
She's one of those people, which is still problematic, but whatever. And then her whole AIDS thing
during the 90s
where she allegedly said
that gay men get AIDS
from hating themselves
or whatever.
But that is not as dissonant
with this whole thing
that apparently she started
some AIDS support thing
in 89 or something.
There's so much misinformation
out there.
You clearly have the fucking bibliography on her
I just know that she said some kooky dooky stuff
I went down this rabbit hole because people are
this is this there is some
kind of like telephone
game kind of thing that's going on because
and honestly
let's say that she is homophobic
an ex-homophobe and she is
this fucking anti-vaxxer
honestly I'm saying who
fucking cares because she's just a fun anita bryant she's a fun bigot in that case anita
bryant was like it's like if anita bryant chilled for mimosas instead of orange juice it's like it's
so fun she's you're drunk she's she's a wine mom who's running for president she's into crystals
and sage and shit and i love it we're We're net positive on Marianne Williamson.
I'd say it's a gift to us all.
It's the new Adele Dazeem is a hundred percent Marianne Williamson.
When she said,
girlfriend,
you are so on.
And when she turned to the camera and said,
I'll fight with love and Donald Trump,
I'll see you on the field.
I'll meet you on that field.
And love will win.
And love will win.
I was like,
okay,
we need to see her for at least
two more debates. I need her. Get rid of
God, Tim Ryan,
the penis with that suit on.
Penis with the suit on. Him, he's gotta go.
And honestly, Hickenlooper didn't
even register. Hickenlooper was bad. Andrew Yang
has big checking Raya during the
breaks energy. We're a fucking tie.
Oh my God, checking Raya during the breaks.
He's married. I've seen him on
Raya several times. Andrew Yang?
I know he's been on Raya.
For the gays? All I'm
saying is he has big Raya energy.
He looked to me like... I don't know what you're talking about.
He looks like a Raya date.
Are you alleging that Andrew
Yang... I'm not alleging nothing. I'm saying
he has the energy, honey. And having the energy of something
is way different than doing it.
It's actually rule of culture number 17.
Having the energy of something is way different from doing it.
And of course, rule number 19 of culture is girlfriend you are so on.
Girlfriend you are so on.
Wait, can you even believe?
Girlfriend you are so on.
Girlfriend youO own Girlfriend USO own When she came through with girlfriend USO own
Who knew that this would be
The big Marianne episode
Oh my god
I didn't think, and I'll say this
I knew some people close to me in my life
Who when she announced her candidacy they said I'm all in
And I was like y'all are kooks
But I'm a bigger fan today than I was yesterday.
There you go.
Love was such an easy game to play.
Because it was an easy game to play yesterday.
But now today, love will win.
Love will win.
On the field.
Our guest just came from a viewing of Yesterday by Danny Boyle.
I did.
What?
Okay, I have so much
to say about this movie
and my cartoonishness.
But you gotta know,
this is a Danny Boyle
stamp.
Bitch.
I am.
Well, okay.
We can talk about that.
We'll talk about it.
But first of all,
we're already speaking
about the guest.
I don't know who this is.
It's a girlfriend
and he is so on.
Girlfriend, you are so on.
And I need to know
what he's on.
What he's on.
Tell me what he's been on,
what he's written on.
Our guest, oh,
truly, truly a full dynamo. Our guest, oh, truly,
truly a full dynamo.
I've loved him for so long.
Ever since I saw his
Comedy Central half hour,
he recorded.
When did you see it first?
This was three years ago
with Joel.
This is Joel's class,
Joe Firestone's class.
You know,
when I met this person.
Who?
Where,
where?
When we were JFL New Faces.
You guys were JFL New Faces class?
We were in year.
Oh my God,
I love that. And that's when we first met. New Faces you guys were JFL New Faces class we were in year oh my god I love that
and that's when we first met
and Guy Branum said to me
I think the gays
are gonna go out
and I said
who are the gays
he said me you and Solomon
I love that
and then Solomon
Solomon and I
it's not the same
trenches but
Solomon and I
were the gays
for two dope queens
yes
in the last season
gay queens
me Solomon and Josh Sharp
now what else
has this person been on?
This person's been on.
Girlfriend.
Where's his girlfriend been on?
Girlfriend's been on.
Okay, so Solomon,
we said his name already,
but our guest is a writer
for so many great shows.
High Fidelity crashing
the next season of Shrill even.
We love that very much.
And he's going on tour. The Diva Tour. crashing the next season of Shrill even. We love that very much. And
and and and he's going on tour.
The Diva Tour. The Diva Tour. It's called
Diva. Oh my god. Have you seen the imagery of this?
I have in fact and I always think our guest's imagery
is on point. Stunning. Thank you. Girlfriend's been
owned. Girlfriend's been owned. Oh thank you. It starts
July 5th. Kicks off in DC. Serving you the
angles. At Draft House. Serving you angles.
Contouring.
Looks tailor made
custom
singular I would say when you
hear Rihanna sing you know it's her and when
you see Solomon's face you know it's her
so please welcome to your ears
Solomon Giorgio
hello hi Solomon
it's wonderful to see you outside of
the crunch green point thank you yes
we ran into each other at the theme
I was trying to get your attention
And you were doing the I don't know anyone else here
Well I would actually
Do you know what I was listening to? Fifth Harmony in my ears
And I was kind of singing a little bit
And then we had a brief conversation and then as I walked away
I was like I wonder how outwardly I was singing
Fifth Harmony it could have been
I didn't hear it otherwise I would have joined in
Yeah right
Was it pre or post Camilla?
It actually was pre Camilla.
Or pre Camilla exit, I should say.
Pre Camilla exit.
I don't necessarily recognize
Fifth Harmony as a thing post Camilla.
I don't know how the queens feel.
They had some fun songs in that last album.
Did they?
Yeah.
Which ones were fun?
There's one that goes,
He got that bing bing bing.
He got that boom boom boom.
Okay.
That was really good. Yeah, it was so, yeah, it was really, he got that boom boom boom. Okay. That was really good.
Yeah, it was so,
yeah, it was really,
yeah, that was a great song.
That was a banger.
We can really tell
by the energy
which was just performed
at chart topper.
It's know this.
It's know this.
If you could take my pulse right now,
you could feel just like a sledgehammer.
That was the first time
I ever heard Fifth Harmony.
I was like,
what the fuck is this?
They're good
I actually watched
their season of X Factor
you did
so I actually bought
the
727
the Miss Moving On
Miss Moving On
yes
who was their coach
Simon
Simon
so Simon
this is actually interesting
so the two big girl groups
now I would argue
are Fifth Harmony
and Little Mix
both came from X Factor Simon Powell yes indeed no no little mix wasn't simon little mix was not simon
little mix was tulisa tulisa never forget tulisa although many have many have many people didn't
even know who she was maybe people at this table maybe even meg didn't know who tulisa was i didn't
know who tulisa was hpm was shaking her goddamn head She didn't know who Talisa is
Well
But then
What did Fifth Harmony cover again
While they were on the show
They did some great
Little reinterpretations
You watched the season
I did watch the season
But I do not recollect
Yeah cause they really
Didn't really
Pop
They didn't pop
The weird thing
By NSYNC
No I'm saying
They didn't really pop
While they were on the show
No that's what I'm saying
Cause they didn't win their season
They did not win
They didn't win
Famously A lot of the people that Really were on the show. No, that's what I'm saying. Because they didn't win their season. They did not win. They didn't win.
Famously, a lot of the people that really succeeded from the show, One Direction, did not win.
Yeah.
Fifth Harmony did not win.
Also, The Beatles.
The Beatles didn't win. The Beatles didn't win X Factor.
True.
And they did fine.
And they did pretty good.
No, because for me, Fifth Harmony was a blip on my radar during the Britney meme of it all,
where the Fifth Harmony got to advance to the next round, and then they cut to Britney, and she just
makes that face of like, what the fuck?
Yeah.
You know what I'm talking about?
So you watched that season.
That was Britney and Demi?
Yes.
Yes.
And there was a lot of crying for Demi.
That's for sure.
Well, Demi might have been in the throes of it.
Oh, she was like right in the mix of it all.
Yeah.
She was on the verge,
on the edge,
on the cliff.
On the verge, on the edge.
She was gonna go through it.
You know, I saw Normani
perform the other night.
Yes, that's right.
Normani is that bitch.
Really?
I've heard of Normani.
I've not seen her perform yet.
Normani sings that song
with Sam Smith.
Dancing with a stranger.
Oh, yes.
And Normani sings a song
with, um,
oh, what's his face?
She be featuring. She be featuring she be featuring
she's on tell me what your love lies
that's her
you know what I saw was Daya the other day
oh I love Daya
it took me a moment to realize
her songs were not Rihanna
but she's great
and I think she like
she's like into comedy
Daya's into comedy
I think she like
whatever this is such a
this is such a
a non-brag truly because I but I love Daya but like she followed me and I whatever this is such a this is such a a non-brag
truly
because I
but I love Daya
but like she followed me
and I was like
on Twitter
I was like oh cute
and then I went to go see
who all she was following
and she like
just follows like
a bunch of like
comedy folks
and I'm like
what's wrong with her
is she okay
she's probably
she's troubled
she has troubles
great musician
terrible taste
terrible taste
and follows
who's she following
Patty Harrison
yeah sure And the like
Wait we have to talk about something
He just pointed to me with a rage
Matt Rogers got the follow of all follows on Instagram
I wasn't going to bring this up
I'm bringing it up
I brought up my gross follow
This is not a gross follow
Maren Morris follows Matt Rogers on Instagram
Do you know Maren Morris?
Sometimes I don't know things
Really?
Oh my god follows Matt Rogers on Instagram. Do you know Maren Morris? Sometimes I don't know things. Okay. Really? Let me educate you.
Why don't you just meet me in the middle?
Oh my God.
The one who took the song that no one else wanted.
Yes, but made it into gold.
Made it into gold.
Did you watch that New York Times feature
where they just kind of talked about the process
of picking the person who would sing that?
She's got an amazing voice.
We've watched her for so long.
We have loved Maren Morris.
No, she's an amazing singer.
She's an incredible singer.
And songwriter
and really good
and so we saw her
at Bowery Ballroom
on the first album
and this was pre the middle
pre like huge
mainstream pop success
but fucking Maren Morris
Maren Morris
I love Maren Morris
so she went to your highlights
to see your Taylor Swift
Lover soundtrack parodies
and then she DMs you
cause Matt sent me
the screenshot
you are so fucking funny and I told her back I was like I'm obsesseds you because Matt sent me the screenshot you are so fucking funny
and I told her back I was like I'm
obsessed with you I was like me and all my friends wanted to
go see you at Bowery I was like we were obsessed
oh my god this Maren fucking wrote second
win for Kelly
yes that's true that's true that's true
this Kelly connection come on
Matt it's beautiful
I should work Maren to Kelly
that's another thing I see at our gym all the time is the commercials for Kelly's new
talk show.
Oh, wait.
You've seen commercials for it?
Yes.
I've seen no commercials for it yet.
I feel like RuPaul is everywhere right now.
I'm just on the treadmill watching those.
So you're up on the treadmill in the gym.
Okay.
Treadmill queen.
Can I tell you, cardio is hard for me now.
I hate it.
Yeah.
And I still do.
Yeah.
I mean, I used to be a cardio queen. Look. I hate it. Yeah. And I still do. Yeah. I mean,
I used to be a cardio queen.
Look,
I'm aging,
so my body is for sure
going to fall apart.
As we all are.
So I must,
I must do the cardio part.
Cardiovascular health isn't,
and like it's imperative
the closer you are to 40.
So when you get on the treadmill,
what are you doing?
A couple miles?
Well,
I'm actually do the elliptical.
Oh,
the elliptical.
And I do the stair master.
Oh,
okay,
bitch.
Oh,
you got to work them legs. And I usually, it's disgusting, but I do about an elliptical. Oh, the elliptical. And I do the stairmaster. Oh, okay, bitch. Oh. You gotta work them legs.
And I usually,
it's disgusting,
but I do about an hour or so.
You do?
A total of cardio.
Yeah.
That's so hardcore.
Well, I don't do high impact,
so it's great.
But still,
that's like patience.
That's like mental,
like, okay, we're here.
Well, I have like the internet with me
at all times.
I know, but.
I'm just like watching Bob's Burgers
and climbing upstairs.
I'm fine.
I have a question, though.
I'm surviving.
So when you're doing
the elliptical,
how do you plug in
so that you can hear
what's going on on the TVs?
Or are we just supposed to watch?
Oh, you're supposed to have
one of those old headphones
without the dongle thing.
I can't believe this.
And plug it into the treadmill.
Yes, and plug it into the treadmill.
And I...
Look, it's...
First of all,
the only thing they're showing
on that TV is Supernatural.
It's truenatural which is on
all day long
on every channel
yes
I'm there during the day
during the week
and so it's like
I get a lot of like
the daytime TV
so I am gonna be
I guess when Kelly's show
does debut
I guess I'm gonna be
you'll be right there
how does the show look
the Kelly Clarkson
daytime show
it looks
so simple
and so fun
and that's the only reason
that I actually want to plug in my headphone
because I can tell she's singing in the commercial.
Yes, that's the thing.
And I want to know what she's singing.
See, my whole thing is I was nervous about her doing a daytime show
because I didn't want her to stop singing.
But it feels like singing is going to be very much part of the show.
An element of it.
But it feels like it's been sort of under wraps for so long.
Whereas with RuPaul, it was like what a quick turnaround that was.
Yeah, RuPaul's also had some
interesting guests. But RuPaul's also
had a talk show before. Sure, that's true. This is Kelly's
first talk show, so everyone's like, you have
to learn how to do this first. Totally, totally, totally.
Do we know? I think it's abused in September.
Everything I say in there? Yes, I believe so.
And wasn't it like, didn't they start
taping it like in the fall of last year?
Well, I had a mole that was at the
pilot taping. Uh-huh.
The mole reported to me.
The mole had said, what the mole had said was that she talks a lot.
Yeah.
And that she was obviously a natural, but it was her first time doing it,
so the pilot taping was long.
Yeah.
But that they had a lot.
Like apparently they shot a lot of segments. Okay. So that they could cut it down and have the best of the best. Got it. that they had a lot. Like, apparently, they shot a lot of segments
so that they could cut it down
and have the best of the best.
But they did a lot.
Like, bitch was, you know,
playing with a snake.
Bitch was talking about human interests.
Bitch had celebrity guests on the couch.
She was singing, twerking, you know.
She was twerking?
Well, no, I just...
Fingers crossed.
Fingers crossed.
She has that big Greek booty in her words.
She's Greek?
She's Greek
Oh so you guys
Really do have so much in common
Are you Greek as well?
I am Greek
That's why I have my ass
Yes
Wow
I didn't know
I didn't know Greeks had asses
We do that's a thing
Is it really?
There's literally statues
Of them
I know
Have you ever seen a Greek statue?
I have
Literally
And you know
It's just their big ass
That was my first crush I know You know what God I mean Have you ever seen a Greek statue? I have. Literally. And you noticed their big ass.
That was my first crush.
I know.
You know what?
Oh, God.
I mean.
Was the statue of David like a normal person? Yeah, honestly, with his little penis.
I mean.
Sorry.
The first, truly the first.
The first.
David has a small penis.
It's actually real culture number 101.
David has a small penis.
Okay.
I think that penis is just,
it's flaccid
and I think we should
embrace them.
We should embrace them.
Yeah, I guess we won't know
until someone gets David hard.
I would get horny
to art books.
I would.
My mom would buy
these giant coffee table books
with Greek statues and shit.
It was beautiful
because I would learn art
and I would appreciate
art and aesthetics
and I could talk about
oh, and this is this era and this era. And then I'd be like, oh, and I'm also appreciate art and aesthetics and like I could like talk about like oh and this is this era
and this era
and then I'd be like
oh and I'm also
horny for this
for you know
the one with
the god
the dad with the snakes
and then
yes
yeah that one
with the flinging children
with flinging children
yeah whatever that one
the dad with the snakes
that's what it's called
I had those art books
as well
and I also had
the figure drawing books
and that's also
how I drew
my own porn I I drew my own porn
I would draw my own porn too
you're an LL you used to
I was a big draw
I drew all the time and I was obsessed
with like I but also
my brothers found all my drawings once
shut up and were they erotic male
drawings oh yes but also some of them
were their favorite superheroes
so they're like I'm to have this for my room.
So they didn't realize it was like...
Oh my God.
So yeah, they learned a lot about...
Well, I had one that I was particularly proud of,
which was the Hulk's bottoming for Spider-Man.
What?
You could vividly draw that?
Yes.
The Hulk bottoming for Spider-Man?
With the web sling on.
Spider-Man mask the mask on.
Spider-Man mask on.
Yeah,
the detail you go into.
I would spend hours.
Wow,
you're a talented artist.
Well,
you didn't see the art.
You don't know yet,
but I am very good.
In order to vividly draw that and you know what it is,
you'd have to be good.
Was it just line drawings
or would you color?
Like you would color it?
I wouldn't color.
Got it.
I would just pencil sketches
and they were just very
as detailed as possible.
So it really did affect
my younger brother so that's amazing
you know what I did was I would so this is actually
this actually like sparked like whatever like storytelling
creative instincts whatever but I would like
draw my own animes
and then I would like like create
stories out of them and plot points and stuff and I would
put them in like photo albums
and I would like cut out the drawings and put them in photo
albums and like write down like oh this is what happens in this part
of this season. You know like it was
kind of fun. Oh my god I did the same thing.
Yeah? In high school I had a whole series called
Tales of the City.
Tales of the City? IP.
Something else.
But it was like a story?
I took like three girls that I knew in high school and I turned them into these alien
characters and I would like update the story
as much as possible I love that
based on what was going on
in real life?
no not based on
it was sort of
like a weird
dystopian nonsense
sort of story
about three separate species
in an alien race
and this one dumb idiot
that follows them around
wow
you were a comic book
tree star
I love comic books
you love comic books?
yes
would you say
it's the culture
that made you say
culture is for you?
no
yes? oh yeah that's a good one no we talked about this because we talked about Dark Phoenix the other day You love comic books? Yes. Would you say it's the culture that made you say culture is for you? No.
Yes?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
That's a good one.
No, we talked about this because we talked about Dark Phoenix the other day.
I did.
I'm obsessed with comic books when I was a kid.
I especially, but also,
we also mispronounce a lot of their names
for the longest time.
Oh, sure.
Like, oh, yeah, just at home.
Oh, yeah, we were like,
I think it was until we saw the X-Men cartoon
that we're like, oh, it's not pronounced Ragoo.
Okay. Raghu. Okay.
Raghu.
Rogue?
Yes.
Oh, my God.
For years.
For years.
No.
That's so funny.
That's like I used to call Hermione Hermione.
Because I had a fourth grade teacher who said Hermione.
But it makes sense.
It makes sense.
In Montreal, I would call the Return of the Jedi.
I saw Return of the Jedi.
And then I would say, La Retourne de the Return of the Jedi. I saw Return of the Jedi. Then I would say,
La Retourne de le Jedi.
Le Jedi.
Le Jedi.
La Retourne de le Jedi.
Le Jedi.
Yeah.
So that's Roku.
Oh, yeah.
We fucked up so many words.
We were ESL.
We couldn't help it.
There you go.
Did you see the new Dark Phoenix?
I have not seen it yet.
We discussed it the other day.
We discussed it the other day.
I'm going to watch it,
but it'll probably be not until it's playing.
On a plane.
Oh, on a plane.
You think it's a plane film.
So I saw it with Sam Taggart and Misha Townsend
and Julio Torres.
And how did you all feel?
We all went in being like,
it's going to be so bad.
It's going to be so stupid and terrible.
And honestly,
not unenjoyable of a film.
Did Sophie turn and give it to you?
Sophie started out kind of like rocky. You're turn and give it to you? Sophie was,
Sophie started out
kind of like rocky.
You're like,
oh no,
can she do this?
Can she like carry this movie?
And I think she does
a pretty good job.
Really?
And like,
it's like a fully like
soulless film,
but it's like beat by beat.
It's like entertaining
and you're like,
okay,
I'm like engaged.
I'm not like looking
at my phone.
Like,
and then it's like two,
two hours and 20 minutes
and like it can lose like 35 minutes.
Oh, really?
But it's an unenjoyable film,
but completely unnecessary.
Yeah, okay.
So that's what's up.
Well, for me, the last set of X-Men movies
have been the most insane set of films I've ever seen
because it's truly everyone, they go,
hey, you know that secondary character
that we decided not to build up very well?
Well, they're now the star of the movie
you're like what?
it's also so weird to me that
they had to literally because of Jennifer
Lawrence's fame they had to make Mystique
a huge part of the movie and a good guy
because she's really to be fair she's
a big part of the comic is she really because in the
original in the Rebecca Romijn
cinematic universe
which is what I call the originals, she's nothing.
Well, yes, in that set, yes.
But if you're talking about the comic book, she is an influencer.
She's a mother.
Rogue's whole origin story is because of her.
Really?
Mm-hmm.
So you would say that the Jennifer Lawrence cinematic universe does more justice to the comics than Rebecca Romijn cinematic universe?
Look, neither of them do real justice to the comics.
Right, okay, I get it.
But Mystique is a much
bigger character
in the comic books.
I'm going to throw
something by you.
They come to your door
and say,
we want you to write
the X-Men movie.
Is that something
you're excited about?
Yes.
You should do that.
Oh my God,
I would fall apart.
You should do that.
First of all,
Storm would be in
right front and center.
They've always done
Storm dirty.
It's insane.
A, the first movie with Halle Berry
where they were like,
okay, don't do the African accent ever again.
So wild.
She had it and then she didn't.
Hang on to something.
It was a blessing in disguise.
It was truly like,
I love Halle Berry so much,
but an African accent is Black Actor 101.
And if you can't do it, that's bananas.
She wasn't even doing it.
She did this weird, odd, stilted...
Like this dying diplomat.
Yeah, it was very strange.
Although I find that Halle Berry has very modern gifts.
She has modern gifts.
And then she did deliver, I think, one of the campiest lines in a superhero movie,
which is, do you know what happens to a toad when it gets struck by lightning?
The same thing that happens to a toe when it gets struck by lightning?
The same thing that happens to everything else.
You know, they paid Josh Whedon a lot of money to come
in to write just that line.
And it's a perfect line.
It's very good.
It's the same thing as everything else.
Also, Halle Berry, you can't
say she doesn't fucking commit every single time.
Remember that movie Kidnap?
Oh, my God!
Oh, my God!
Oh, no!
Literally, 90% of the dialogue in that movie is, oh, my God!
And then the 10% is, where's my phone?
Where's my damn phone?
Where's my damn phone?
It is.
I'll give her always great credit for that because she will never ever give
nothing than 100% of her weight.
Have you seen Introducing Dorothy Dandridge?
Of course. That's a great performance.
I would even say her best performance.
Really? Yes, absolutely.
I think one of the greatest performances of all time is
in BAP's Black African Princesses.
Wow. I also think
that's one of the best will reading
scenes in a film. Will reading scenes.
There's a scene at the end
where there's a will reading
and they decided not to learn
any legal jargon whatsoever.
Being the characters or the actors?
The writers, yeah.
No one learned any legal jargon
so what they decided to do instead
is play this weirdly
knock off John Williams music
as a lawyer slowly reads
Oh no. And the couch goes to the mom
and it's
nothing but just reaction shots
no words it's just reacting
to the Will reading
that's a way to get around it
that's actually a really smart track
three minutes and it's so beautiful
I cannot probably explain how much I love that
hold on let me write that down in my moleskin that I carry
writing tips writing Will's readings I cannot probably explain how much I love that song. Wow. Hold on, let me write that down in my moleskin that I carry.
Writing is... Writing tips.
Writing wills readings.
That's perfect.
That is something they really would have taught us in writing schools.
If you don't know how to do something, have it happen with no dialogue.
There you go.
No music.
They really would have told us that.
Oh, my God.
Oh, yeah.
And that is great advice because it's just the most...
It's too entertaining.
Like, I love anyone speaking
while music is playing.
That's just when I just hyper focus.
I'm like, let me see
what you can do with your face.
Let me see you emote.
But in this case,
it was just emoting with music
and that was it.
Yes.
It was still compelling.
And then right after that,
they go right into the aftermath
of everything
where they opened a salon
that's half soul food, half hair.
Perfect.
It's really, I can't even.
You can't even just, you can't even.
And Halle Berry didn't falter a single time in that film.
Of course not.
What is the best comic book film that you,
in your esteemed opinion,
since you are the comic book tree star?
God, I'm not going to say that.
I just know my share.
I know that, but I look to you like an authority.
Oh, now I'm an authority?
Oh God.
But you've been asked this.
I have an opinion.
I have an opinion.
Yes.
You go first.
Oh God, my opinion?
Would you like me to give my opinion?
Give your opinion first.
Well, I think that the movie that captures the comic book spirit and also the cinematic
whole thing of it before they got
too self-serious.
I do love
The Dark Knight,
but my favorite comic book movie
is the first Spider-Man
with Tobey Maguire
and Kirsten Dunst.
I was going to say,
the first Spider-Man
is pretty great.
I think it celebrates
comic book energy
and I think it was
a thrilling film.
And they had
amazing chemistry
and there was
a great villain
and great performances
all around.
That's how I feel.
My feeling, and I think it's because That's how I feel. My feeling,
and I think it's because
it just hits every note
that I like,
is Batman Returns.
Oh, great.
That's an excellent answer.
I think it gives me
everything I needed,
which is high camp,
some great scenes,
a great, like,
Michelle Pfeiffer
as Catwoman
is unapproachable.
Academy Award nominee
for me.
And for,
absolutely.
And like, there was something about the scene where she
gets thrown down and
you think she's dead. Just that moment
of the cat licking her wounds.
As a kid watching that, I'm like,
this is doing something to me and I don't know what it is.
It's a relentlessly adult
movie. It's on the verge of being
campy and silly.
But yet it still stays in that perfect
it's that perfect Tim Burton
realm when he first started that I just love so much.
And I think Batman Returns is by far
like I can't. I would agree. But in terms of
just like a queer response to it like just as
a kid being like wow why am I responding
to it. It's one of those things where like I don't know why I like
this but I like it and then you get older and you're like that's
why. Yeah. Because I'm who I am now.
Because she's a gay icon
and also the narrative of
the rebirth but also keep in mind there's
multiple gay icons in this movie
of course every gay icon is there
the penguin is a queer
icon
like a black
slime dripping out of his mouth queer icon
that's just crazy
the blood
also do we think
would we fuck Michael Keaton I think I
absolutely would
every time right now
no time machine needed
they had good chemistry too they had sneaky chemistry
they had sneaky chemistry where you're like I don't think this is what this is
and then all of a sudden it is and you're like of course this is
what it is Michelle and Michael
Selena Kyle and Bruce Wayne in that movie it is and you're like of course this is what it is Michelle and Michael Selina Kyle and Bruce Wayne
in that movie
their chemistry
and it's like crazy
and then there's that
great scene
at the end
at the dance
when they realize
when they're dancing together
as their alter egos
that they are who they are
and then the dance
becomes very intense
it's a very good scene
and the reason I love it a lot
is that it's not that
damsel in distress
love story
no
that's why it's so much better
it's like now we're foes,
but are we foes?
Like, it's like,
I love it.
Yeah, no,
they cut the Kim Basinger
of it all for that one.
Totally.
I did enjoy,
not to bring it back to Dark Knight,
but I did enjoy Anne
as Selina Kyle,
Anne Hathaway.
Oh, I thought Anne Hathaway
was amazing.
I thought she was the best part
of the Dark Knight Rises.
Definitely.
Kind of, in my opinion.
You're not a fan?
I love Anne Hathaway.
Me too.
It's just, that Catwoman was
okay
you know
it's always gonna pale
in comparison
of course
that's the thing
that's when
my issue was
her as the character
was fantastic
but Catwoman's
presence in that film
was just
you couldn't make her
she had no interest
in making
either she or
you know
Anne Hathaway did a good
Selina Kyle
she did a good Selina Kyle she did a good Selina Kyle
but it was not like
there was no interest
in campiness
or like making her like
super fun
but like she had great moments
where it was like
you know she gets like
held up by some guy
and he's like
do those heels hurt
and then she stabs him
with it
kicks back and stabs him
with it
and she goes
I don't know
do they
like that's fun
that is fun
there are some fun moments
she is the only fun thing about that movie.
Yeah.
But it's barely that.
It's not even that fun.
And that almost makes it totally weird for me.
Because that trilogy, it really strove to take the fun out of it.
And make it dark.
And I mean, there is a lot of darkness.
And especially Dark Knight Rises is like fully fucking dark
and of course there's you know the Heath Ledger
of it all in Dark Knight which is fun to watch
and I'll never forget
watching that movie for the first time
but almost the goofiness
of her lines and stuff like that
made me feel like I like this the best
but I can also
understand it's a little tonally inconsistent
there's a part of me
when I watch those
where I didn't see in the first ones
which were like,
you were doing these absolutely insane things
and you're treating it very seriously.
Like, the fact that Bane's voice wasn't a joke.
Yeah, it's crazy.
The entire, I'm like,
how are you,
are we messing with me?
This is not intentional.
That is not camp
because it's not celebrating
an intentionally bad
you know
intentionally bad taste
or something.
No it's this
somebody was like
this sounds good.
Totally.
It's something someone
said yes to.
You know the thing is
it really is hard
to do better
than The Dark Knight.
You know what I mean?
It's like especially
in terms of the iconic film
that was The Joker.
And now you even see
the new movies come out. the new Jokers.
Like, although I do think this Joaquin Phoenix one looks interesting.
Does it?
Yeah, it does look interesting to me.
But it'll never be what Heath Ledger was.
I think we've given Joaquin Phoenix too much.
I'm saying now.
I don't disagree.
I'm just saying, like, when I saw the trailer, the trailer I was like okay if there had to be another
take which remember Hollywood there
always has to be another take so if
there's gonna be another take this at least
looks like one that I'm more interested
in than that Suicide Squad bullshit
oh that's true
if you're gonna compare it to Jared Leto
yeah that's definitely of course
I would want that instead
and that's like a of course, I would want that instead. Although, yeah.
And that's like a, you know, some tasteless person at a studio is going to be like,
actually, can we make Jared more, you know, neon and colorful?
And, you know, that's being filtered.
Did you see it?
Because I heard he was barely in it.
No, I didn't see it.
I didn't see it.
See, I didn't see it either.
But some people that reported back from it said Jared Leto was in maybe 15 minutes of it.
Really?
You have so many moles.
I have a lot of moles around town.
They're my culturistas.
Moles who do things that you could absolutely do.
Yeah, but no, I am actually confident.
There aren't infiltrating spaces that you couldn't go in.
I'm confident saying I don't have time to see Suicide Squad.
It's actually rule of culture number 11.
I don't have time to see Suicide Squad. It's actually rule of culture number 11. I don't have time to see Suicide Squad. I just want to say really quickly
the costume designer for Dark Knight Rises was brilliant
because the Catwoman ears being
her glasses is so fucking
brilliant. That's from the comic book though.
Oh really? Never mind. Damn.
They have to construct it and it was
a great idea. Also
Marion Cotillard had an iconic death.
She did. Wait oh yeah.
Did you know she's famously so pissed
that they chose this take of her death scene?
Yes.
So she says, she literally is like,
it's too late.
And like, she literally is in the media being like,
I just couldn't believe they chose that take.
That was my Marion Cotillard.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
What were her other takes?
She apparently died more naturally. Like apparently died like a million times more naturally
like apparently
she died a million times
and they chose one
and she was like
back in the editing room
like that was the best take
that was the best one
we can really tell
she died in this one
but you know
I actually
one of my guilty
guilty guilty pleasures
is
those last two
Batmans of the 90s
oh yeah
which were Batman Forever,
which was iconic. Nicole Kidman
as Dr. Chase Meridius
with the one hair in front of her eye.
The Val Kilmer of it all.
The introduction to Chris O'Donnell.
Hotty Chris O'Donnell,
twink of the year as Robin.
That was introduction to thick butts and tight pants.
Yeah, truly. And then we had, of course,
the Batman Robin of it all,
with George Clooney and Chris O'Donnell and Alicia Silverstone
in the worst performance of all time.
And Uma Thurman.
And Uma Thurman in the best performance of all time.
First film I've ever seen in a theater.
Me too, bitch!
Yes, yes.
Oh my God, me too.
That was the first film,
and that's why I probably love it till this day
was because it just felt right.
I'll never forget going,
maybe it wasn't the first one,
but I distinctly remember going to the movie theater and watching it because
I was so fucking hyped to see
that movie. Like yeah. Yeah.
I mean that was a good one. And I think
I was a teen for that for sure.
My parents wouldn't let us go to the movie theater
our whole lives and this was my own money
and I got to go for the first time
and I took my brothers with me. Oh I love that.
And it was. As I told
Lady Freeze
when I pulled her cup
Uma Thurman
and your name is
Poison
Poison Ivy
Uma
that is camp
it's wild camp
it's nothing but camp
it's nothing but camp
and Chris O'Donnell
peeling that fucking
cover off his lips
is like
actually an iconic moment.
Rubber lips.
And she's like,
and those suits had nipples on them.
And nipples, and they had nipples.
And it caused an uproar.
Yeah, because it was,
well, you know,
I guess what was the guy's name?
Joel Schumacher?
Yeah.
He was like relentlessly gay on set.
Yes, and I love that.
Apparently, like,
I read this article that was, came out like just a few years ago. Oh, and I love that. Apparently, I read this article that came out
just a few years ago
talking about it.
Was it like a Me Too
level kind of thing?
I don't know anything
about that.
I'm not talking about that.
You're waving this away.
I'm waving that away.
I don't know anything about it.
I think there is an issue
along those lines
that we might have to confirm.
Well, the cultural stuff,
you can chime in
if you don't want to.
I don't know.
But what I am going to say,
which I thought was funny,
was he would climb to the top of his director's chair
and say before every take, remember, you're in a cartoon.
Oh, and fucking Drew Barrymore.
And what's her face?
They were Sugar and Spice.
Sugar and Spice.
Oh, she's in Batman Forever.
Yes, they were in Batman Forever.
But there's that, oh God, there's a great actress.
She's in Younger.
Oh, Debbie Mazur.
Debbie Mazur Debbie Mazur yeah
so they were
Two Faces
Blackies
yes
Two Faces groupies
basically
Sugar and Spice
Sugar and Spice
and I just remember
Drew Barrymore
in that
not platinum wig
a white wig
and white lipstick
yeah
she was
she had
one and a half lines
one and a half lines
her
her right tit
fully out
yeah fully
it was like a little
Kim moment I was like a Lil' Kim moment.
I was like, oh my God.
Absolutely on a mountain of coke,
right up fresh off the slopes.
Yes.
This was actually her return after rehab.
What was it?
This was her big first thing
before she cleaned up.
Oh, I love that.
She might have had a relapse since then.
Of course.
But after that,
but she,
that was her big like,
post little girl loss phase.
This is after like Poison Ivy
and she just disappeared into nothing.
Yes, all that.
Wow.
She was also in a movie called Poison Ivy.
You know, she was drinking at age eight, smoking weed at age ten,
and then doing coke at age 11.
That's wild.
That's fucking crazy.
And she's doing great now.
I fucking love her.
The only reason I didn't do it
Was because of access
People didn't
Had coke been around
When I was nine
I would be a celebrity right now
I'd be stuffing it up there
Stuffing it
Wait did you ever play
Because you replied
To my Final Fantasy tweet
Did you play Final Fantasy
Oh I'm also a video game
Person as well
Can we talk about this
Because I haven't
We haven't had like
A video game conversation You don't have to ask me For permission to do this No bitch This is like as well. Can we talk about this? Because we haven't had a video game conversation.
You don't have to ask me for permission to do this.
No, bitch.
This is like new territory.
I will talk about...
Okay, what were your games?
What were your games?
My games, I actually do...
I was obsessed with Final Fantasy VIII.
I think I played that one.
I clocked a lot of hours on that one.
Oh, yeah.
VIII's a pretty gay one.
It's super gay.
And that's also the most crystal clear...
Story? Well, no. I never understood a single Final Fantasy story. The story makes no sense. eight's a pretty gay one it's super gay and that's also the most crystal clear story
like well no
oh
I never understood
a single final fantasy story
the story makes no sense
none of them do
like there's like
like it's sort of
like a dystopian thing
ten actually
a tyrant of some sorts
I think you're gonna
have to fight
there's a weird
it's like this
there's a weird
steampunk
psychopath
yeah yeah yeah
that I'll never
fully comprehend
but I'm like
I think it's the best
gameplay in the world
8?
oh just
oh the series overall
8 was my favorite
out of all
it had the gun swords
it had the gun swords
what's that described
they were called gun blades
with guns
like a bayonet
it's like a giant
imagine like a giant
like pistol handle
okay
with like a barrel
and like a trigger
truly phallic
phallic
truly
but then instead of an actual instead of an actual um fucking Like a barrel and like a trigger. Truly phallic. Phallic. Truly.
But then instead of an actual fucking gun,
it was just a sword blade.
And then you would just like swing it around.
Like you would kill people with a blade as well as shoot them with a gun.
Really unnecessary.
So crazy.
Sounds violent.
Final Fantasy is actually camp.
And Final Fantasy X and X-2 are actually
two sides of the same coin that shows how queer culture and straight culture can coexist.
Now, what is Final Fantasy XII?
XII? You haven't played XII.
Oh, but you have played XII.
XII is...
You're asking me what XII is.
XII is, um...
XII is like for a queer person who loves AP US history or AP European history.
It's like...
It is.
It's truly... it's truly,
Matt is fully checked out
and is just on his phone.
Oh,
I don't know about this.
I don't know about this.
I don't know,
but whenever I don't know
about shit,
I'm always like,
oh,
I'm like,
take me then.
I just asked you about
what the bayonet shit was.
Fine,
fine.
But if you want to talk about
like RPGs that I am obsessed
with now,
I left it at home in LA,
but I love,
I'm now playing
Ni No Kuni 2.
I played the first one and I didn't love it. Did you? I'm obsessed with it. Okay, but I love... I'm now playing Ni No Kuni 2. I played the first one and I didn't love it.
Did you?
I'm obsessed with it.
Okay, but I hear Ni No Kuni 2 is fun.
It's more fun.
This one is a whole other...
I just love Miyazaki.
It's a game made by Miyazaki, who's...
Spirited away.
Who's Miyazaki?
Oh, yes, I know that he does Spirited Away.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I am playing...
I'm playing 12 again.
Yes.
I'm playing... again yes I'm playing
did they remaster it or
they remastered it for Switch
and for
because they remastered it
for PS4
and then they did switch
an Xbox 360
these are things I would happily
they're also
aren't they just completely
recreating 7
they're completely redoing 7
and it actually
could be
it'll probably be bad
but it could be good
they're doing
they're doing a TV show
which is going to be bad.
Oh, a Final Fantasy TV show?
They've managed to do as much as they can
in the Final Fantasy film and TV realm,
and it's never been good.
To be honest with you, I'm surprised it's taken this long.
It feels like such a huge franchise.
Oh, they've done it many times.
Oh, they have.
They did the movie in 2000 with Ming-Na.
Do you remember this?
Yes, I don't remember a movie with Ming- this? it's called Final Fantasy The Spirits Within
and it was the sci-fi
of ER
and also wasn't Ben Affleck?
no some guy was
the voice actor of the love interest
who ends up dying spoiler alert
but let's see wait Final Fantasy The Spirits Within
we're googling this listeners
these were not the video games that I played when I was little i was like a fucking mario you were a
donkey kong bitch like i was like i played like you know i played like first person shooters too
which now terrify me actually look there's just a splinter off that happens where the rest of us go
give me rpgs yes i don't want a story i did play the mario rpg this oh which is how you say
it's very long mar. Yeah, I can't
switch into Mario. I get it.
It's not something I can allow.
Can I just list off this
the cast of this movie? I like how it's beneath you.
I won't allow it. No, I won't allow it.
I'm gonna list off the cast. I saw my own
wrist. The cast of this movie,
the voice cast of this movie. So Ming-Na plays
Aki Ross, the protagonist.
You have Alec Baldwin as the love interest.
Steve Buscemi.
Donald Sutherland plays Sid.
Jesus Christ. James Woods is
the general. Ving Rhames is a sergeant.
What if they get every problematic celebrity
to fucking dance together and voice this?
It's like, you can't see their face, so
it'll be okay. I know, but this was like 2000.
And then they did Advent Children for 7, and that
was terrible. Oh, God. It's really sad i really truly wish but the games are i think no
matter what i've gone back like i played the last one what's the last number 15 15 which was like i
didn't get to be you don't get to be involved in that game whatsoever it's mostly movies it's just
movies it's just like soap operas and then and then you have to drive everywhere you literally
have to get into a car sit in that, and drive somewhere for like 15 minutes.
But you're not even controlling it.
You're just like, you go drive, and then you set your controller down, and it drives for you.
You don't do anything?
You don't do anything.
No, you are just.
Why the fuck are you getting it?
It's the most crazy fucking.
You're supposed to sit back and enjoy the view.
Do people like it?
Like, bitch, I can go outside and see the world.
People really hated this one. Yeah, it was really. It was pure torture. and enjoy the view. Do people like it? Like bitch I can go outside and see the world. People really hated this one.
Yeah it was really
it was pure torture.
That seems really odd.
It was stuck in development
hell for 10 years.
So they announced it in 2006
and it didn't come out
until 2016.
This is Final Fantasy 15?
15 and it was like
just kind of
it was a really bro-y game
and there was nothing fun about it
because all Final Fantasy games
within a certain era
were like kind of
campy and queer and fun.
Had their like little notes of it.
And little side games you can do.
And this one was just very much like...
It was just very self-serious.
It was very...
It felt like a Christopher Nolan movie, honestly.
It was so long.
And one of the things, I have to beat them.
That's the issue, which made me even more upset.
15 was the first one that I was like,
I don't care about this game enough to beat it.
And I was just like, I'm putting it down.
Wow.
I beat it, and it was... It was not that hard. It game enough to beat it. And I was just like, I'm putting it down. Wow. I beat it and it was,
it was not that hard.
It just took forever.
Forever.
13 I kind of liked.
And 13 had some queer elements
where Vanille and Fang
were like lesbians,
kind of.
That makes sense.
I'm so bad at remembering names.
I think the only name
I remember is Squall from 2.
Squall.
For mate.
No, that's Squall and Cypher.
Oh no,
I would masturbate to Zell
and Cypher a lot as kids. Wait, Zell was a blonde one and Cypher. Oh no, I would masturbate to Zell and Cypher a lot as kids.
Zell was a blonde one.
Blonde with a face tattoo.
Oh yes, he was doing a lot.
He was doing a lot.
I was a Squall fan.
Zell was for sure too problematic for me.
I think he's the kind of person who would have bullied us in high school.
Absolutely, but Zell and Cypher were like...
And Bowen points to him and says,
you would have loved him.
No, because he's like this blonde muscly dude
and like I was like
very into that
at that time
and he was like
he's a jokester
he was the guy that like
I'm fucking
I'm jumping off stairs
and like
he was the one
who was the class clown
he was the class clown
but Matt is a Zell
oh my god did you ever
are you played
have you played Persona 5
of course
I played it
thank god
it's probably the only game
I ever replayed.
Because it's worth replaying.
It's worth replaying.
I have not gotten it,
gotten the time to replay it.
This is...
Replaying it means
you get everything.
I know you get everything
in that you get...
It's also a genius game.
You're a high schooler.
You're a high school in Japan.
You're a high school in it.
But then you,
you go to high school
half the time
and then the other half
you like,
you heist people's minds.
In this other dimension. In this other dimension you like, you go to these... It's like Inception the other half you like you heist people's minds in this other dimension in this other dimension you like you go to
inception it's like inception it's kind of like
inception but these are you go into bad people's minds
to like make them to
like get the impurities out of them get the impurities
out of them and it's like a brilliant fucking game
it's so goddamn good oh my god
who was your um waifu was
makoto she's the school
girl like the class president.
I'm trying to remember.
I, like the person
that I tried to date?
Like my, like, yeah,
well, the people I tried to date
were, I was set on Makoto
and I was like,
she's going to be my waifu
and like that's like.
Waifu?
Waifu, it's like a Japanese term
for like waifu, husband.
I went for the,
I stayed with,
I usually,
because it was the first time
I played,
I went for the girl
that they initially. Yes, oh, the blonde one. With the yes? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But when I usually because it was the first time I played I went for the girl that they initially
hung up with
the blonde man
yeah yeah yeah
but when I replayed it
I did it where I got
all of them
you got all of them
good for you
and that
they were very upset with you
what do you mean
get all of them
you can get them
you can convince them
to date you
all of these girls
to date you
you play as a boy
and you have to convince
all the girls to date you
you can
by giving them sort of giving them the right present at the right time and sort of like develop a relationship these girls to date you. You play as a boy and you have to convince all the girls to date you? You can.
You might give them,
like,
you, like,
sort of give them
the right present
at the right time
and sort of, like,
develop a, like,
a relationship with them.
Is there sex in the game?
There is implied sex.
There's not really
actual sex.
There's a moment
where things go dark.
Yeah.
Really?
There's,
it's kind of a problematic game
because it's just
Japanese culture
and so there's, like,
there's, like,
a seedy part of town
where, like,
there's a gay bar
where a drag queen
is the bartender
and it's just like
but she's also
the drag queen's also
the person that gets you gigs
like gets you like
working jobs
the drag queen is great
yes
it's an insane
but then the gay
patrons of the bar
are like
you're like
ew get away from me
there's a whole homophobic
it's very homophobic
but
and like
if you could date men
in that game
I would fucking
be playing it all the time.
Like, all the fucking time.
And it's pretty fun.
But yeah, you can get them all to date you at once and then they confront you at the end of the game.
Can you play as a girl and date boys?
No.
Although they're re-releasing it where you can play as a girl, maybe.
Persona 5 R or something.
Anyway, they're re-releasing it and they're like, out of new content.
So, um.
I can talk about Persona.
Yeah, Persona 5, I played plenty.
It's so, so fun.
I love that.
Oh my God, that's so cool.
And then you also have to take tests in that game.
Yeah, it's dumb.
It's insane.
Like you have to, you're in school
and you have to take actual history.
It sounds like this game
is just doing the high school experience.
It is just the high school experience,
but then it's like a fan.
There's a fantasy element
where you're like a Power Ranger.
You're doing Inception.
It's Power Ranger Inception.
You just hop into this other realm.
You have this mask to cover your face.
And then you also get these creatures
that you can use to attack people with.
This is very Hannah Montana.
It's very Hannah Montana.
It's very I have to live my life as a normal person,
but then at night, I'm a pop star.
Wait, one last thing before we move on
Zelda you're a Zelda person
that's where we splinter off
got it
it's never too late to start
Zelda fucking bores the
even Ocarina of Time
I'm like this fucking sucks
you're so stupid you're such a stupid bitch
I can't believe you would ever say that
it sucks from the beginning.
You're going to get fucking murdered for saying this.
I hope that everyone kills me.
I'm not going to disagree that you're a stupid bitch,
but I will for sure agree that I'm not a fan of Zelda.
You guys are so dead wrong.
It is so boring and humorless.
You guys are...
I'm going to fucking explode right now.
First of all, what is she?
What do you mean she?
Zelda.
Zelda is the princess who represents the Triforce of Wisdom. is she? What do you mean she? Zelda. Zelda is the
princess who represents the Triforce of Wisdom.
Then why am I not playing as her?
You're gonna get to play as her.
They're making a sequel for Breath of the Wild
where you get to play as Zelda finally.
What, 25 years later?
Yes, bitch. Deal with it.
Progress is slow and not linear.
That game is fucking boring.
You can run across a field for 45 minutes and nothing happens.
No, everything happens
and it's the most,
and it's widely,
Breath of the Wild,
the most recent installment
is widely considered
to be the best game of all time.
Beating Ocarina of Time,
which was previously considered
the best game of all time
and you guys are stupid bitches
who don't understand game design
and these subtle elements
of the invisible hand
that guides you along
to the next path.
Grow the fuck up,
read a book.
I don't think so, honey.
I don't think so. I'm mad at you.
The best video game of all time.
Is what? Mario Party? Super Mario Party?
Slapperazzi? Is Mario Kart.
Because anyone can play
even a child. And it's
important that for video games be
everyone. It's important that for video
games be everyone. That's rule of culture number 91. It is important that for video games be everyone. It's important that for video games be everyone.
That's rule of culture number 91.
It is important that for video games be everyone.
I'm sorry.
Can we take that again?
It is important that for video games be everyone.
We don't know.
I refuse to say it again. It's important that for video games be everyone.
Please.
No.
You should have gotten it right the first two times.
Stupid cunt.
But to be more than anything, I'm actually a fighting game person.
Okay, see, that's where we start.
I don't like fighting or violence or guns.
I love guns.
I love violence.
I'm with Eric Swalwell.
I'm a cop.
I'm Camilla Harris.
I'm a cop.
My dick moved when Eric Swalwell last night said,
we need to break up with Russia and make up with NATO,
and I blame UCB for my dick moving.
You blame UCB for your dick moving?
Because watching his eyes twinkle
when he made a lukewarm joke
reminded me of every mediocre second beat
I saw executed by guys
who were so satisfied to watch that happen.
Now, God, you know who loves the cops
is Mayor Pete.
You're annoying. Oh, yes. He doesn't love the cops. He is a cop because he loves the cops is Mayor Pete. You're annoying.
Oh, yes.
He doesn't love the cops.
He is a cop because he loves the cops.
Do you not know the news?
He is not the best.
I don't think.
Oh, honey.
Did you not hear the news?
He is not the best.
Thank you for being so long.
Thank you for being so long.
All right, so here's my rankings.
One, Kamala.
Two, Marianne.
Three, Marianne. Four, Marianne. Three, Marianne.
Four, Marianne.
Five, Marianne.
This is just night two.
Night two.
Only night two.
Night one was so boring.
I think night one was kind of shitty,
and also I think that certain candidates in night two
would have stood out more.
For example, Sheila Brand, I think,
would have looked better on night one.
She would have fucking wiped the floor with Amy.
I don't think it's a thing about Amy.
I am pitting women against each other.
You are pitting women against each other, and that's something that Bowen Yang does.
But what I'm saying is that Jilla Brand would have looked better overall.
I think the top three people of the first night were probably Warren, Castro, and for me, I guess Booker,
which is insane.
It's crazy.
With Klobuchar like a spoiler.
Yeah, but that's because the rest of them were so awful.
They're such duds.
Like when Beto was going to Spanish, it was like,
Beto is done.
Beto is fucking cooked.
Beto looked terrified.
Yeah.
It's just like, especially with Castro there,
like, you're going to do that?
Honey, his accent was horrific.
Oh my God.
Like, I think I stopped watching because I was just humiliated for him.
Like, I wish, I wish those kind of white guys would just have that embarrassment for a fraction of a moment.
I've never heard a harder R than his Escuchar.
Escuchar.
Escuchar.
He was really hitting that R hard.
And also, I guess for me, the second night,
my opinion is that Kamala looked impeccable.
She was very good.
And that I would say, I thought Pete did well,
and I thought that if I had to give a third,
which I really don't feel like anyone did that great.
I mean, I didn't hate Gillibrand's performance.
It's so interesting how-
Look, for me, the second night was about
whether or not
Biden was destroyed
and he was
for me
that's imperative
I think he kind of
was thoroughly destroyed
and I think he will keep
I think he's
like Joel was saying
that he's like
hopefully
knock on wood
he's like the Jeb
of this cycle
where it's like
well here's the thing
like he
like it came out
like he always looks good
based on how we
compare him to like
but in this kind of situations
he doesn't shine.
It's all relative.
He never has.
He looks bad next to these people.
You remember it's his third time doing it.
And it's like,
it's never worked before.
Why will it work now when we think of you as an also right?
And honestly,
Biden was actually going to be my,
I don't think so,
honey today,
but I'll just say this now.
I'll figure it out later.
I'll just improvise.
But Biden obviously thought that he was going to come into these debates and make it all about Trump.
And he was not going to engage with his primary opponents.
And he sorely underestimated his primary opponents, namely Kamala Harris, who made him look like a fool and called him out very, very hard on that stage.
And he was not ready for it.
The that girl was me moment. was just like oh holy shit.
I bought the t-shirt.
Good for you. I went to that fucking website and bought that t-shirt.
I've given her a lot of money.
I love that Kamala chose the Unbreakable
Kimmy Schmidt font and
logo treatment. It looks great.
I love the aggressive
of Warren's logo. Oh yeah.
It's as subtle as she is it's such a bold choice
it's such a bold choice actually you know who has
a great sort of design
treatment to her campaign is
Marianne
she's working with deep dark
purples and
like really tasteful not millennial
but like a tasteful pink
so purple and pink like not blue and red like not really red white and blue but just like a fun little like mix of like a tasteful pink so purple and pink like not blue and red
like not really
red, white and blue
but just like a fun little
like mix of
like a little acid tinged
whatever
yeah she's a loon
of course she's gonna have
a great color scheme
she is a loon
girlfriend you are so on
girlfriend you are so on
and I would tell her
girlfriend you are so on
I would tell her
girlfriend you are so on
my first call would be
to the prime minister
of New Zealand
New Zealand
she said that it was gonna be
the best race to race
actually apparently people people are people like experts placed it her accent as My first call would be to the Prime Minister of New Zealand. She said that it's going to be the best race to race in the United States.
People, experts placed
her accent as being the
thought to be extinct mid-Atlantic accent.
Like Audrey Hepburn in Breakfast at Tiffany's
colleague-a-lightly like,
Go for the USO.
I think that accent is a Klonopin accent.
No.
She is, God,
I mean.
Mr. President,
if you're listening.
If you're listening.
Honestly,
the like sensuality
with her.
If you're listening.
And it's the eyebrows.
I think you know
what you're doing.
If you look back
at the videos,
it's her eyebrows.
It's the eyebrows
are doing so much work.
Can I say,
I thought the first two times
she spoke were not bad.
No, no, no.
Because I actually thought
she makes a really good point
in a way. Didn't really thought she makes a really good point,
in a way.
Didn't really have a space in this particular debate,
but I think it is a good point overall to say that we have a sickness healthcare system.
We don't actually have a healthcare system.
I know what she was trying to say,
but it's like-
Well, she said what she was trying to say.
But then people could just pin all their crazy
anti-neow Age bullshit on me.
Like, oh my God, she's being very pseudoscience-y and all that.
Say what you want.
That was not a kooky thing to say.
We as a nation are not focused on wellness.
It's not kooky.
It doesn't have a place in this debate, really.
But it's also not inaccurate.
Sure, sure, sure.
It's just the way she speaks, she's always five words away from saying the most insane thing in the world.
There's just like, if you throw in five more words, it's going to be out of the field.
And that's why it's so tragic that fucking Chuck Todd, who I'm just going to spoil.
Well, no, it's my honor.
Thanks, honey.
Wow.
Like, she got cut off after the New Zealand, after Girlfriend U or so on.
Like, she was going to like,, she was gonna talk more about raising children
in the US.
Honestly,
I would have let her go.
I would have just been like,
I mean,
just for shit's sake,
we have to hear it.
Just let her talk.
Let her talk.
We're not hearing her again.
Are they making cuts
after this?
They have to.
No,
I think the next round
is still maybe
the same thing
where it's like,
to qualify,
you just have to meet
some donor minimum.
So I think we might see her.
them cutting.
It's just people going, we're not gonna give you any more money. Do we have to meet some donor minimum. So it's not about them cutting. It's just people going,
we're not going to give you any more money.
Do we have to send her money for comedy purposes?
Oh my God.
That's how you get people as president.
You know that, right?
This is exactly what happened in 2016.
The scuttlebutt is that she's,
of course she's gotten,
I mean, my whole timeline today on Twitter was Marianne.
And I think a lot of,
She is an icon now. From what I my whole timeline today on Twitter was Marianne. And I think a lot of.
She is an icon now.
From what I'm hearing is that her donations have spiked.
I mean, have surged. Holy shouts.
She retweeted her being the most Googled name today.
This is what I'm saying.
All you have to be is the star of the election.
The star of the election will go far.
I say this all the time.
I always say the star of the election will win.
So we might be looking at President
Ghosn.
Oh, God.
You guys have been good for a new song.
Honestly, honestly.
Just think about her doing the oath of office.
The oath of office.
Is that what it's called?
What is it called? Wait, what are you talking about?
It's like swearing in.
Oh, the oath of office. I'm sorry it's called? What is it called? Wait, what are you talking about? It's like take swearing in. Oh, yeah.
Taking the oath. Oh, the oath of office. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
I don't know. What the fuck? I thought you were trying to state of the union or something. No,
I said taking the oath of office, which is
a thing. Got it. I'm sorry. Stupid bitch.
Don't ever point your finger at me like you
did for me, Ocarina of Time ass.
White.
I'll kill you, you white bitch. I'll kill you,
you white. You are white and stupid too
wow that's harsh
I would never want
that directed at me
I don't know
this happens
you know what Solomon
you're white too
I swear to god
you're a white bitch
I swear to god
you dumb white
oh my god
Bowen is a model
minority here
I am not
oh
oh no
my god
not in my history not in my history not my life would i allow you can call me a bitch
i will scream into the ethos i would fall apart i'd rip my hair off if i woke up with a white skin
speaking of white speaking of white and being literally translucent you know who didn't register to me at all last night was fucking
Bernie Bernie might as well have been
invisible he was there
it's interesting that like no one was
like Bernie didn't really like strike
anything with anybody but like the only
real observation people made about Bernie was that
like wow the
breadth of topics that people are talking
about and like the policy positions that people
are taking are you know and I policy positions that people are taking are,
and I will agree with this,
are directly affected by Bernie Sanders.
Oh, of course.
Definitely his impact is felt.
Everyone's pushed to the left,
and it's like, great, yeah, good for him.
And I think that's a great thing to have
as your also historical point.
So that's why it's like,
I think he should just be happy
with what he actually did for the landscape.
I absolutely agree.
Yes.
And maybe he ends up getting a nomination.
And including his supporters should feel that way as well, too. They should just be happy with what he actually did for the landscape. I absolutely agree. Yes. And maybe he should feel that way
as well too.
He should just be happy
what he did.
I do not think
he should get the nomination.
I will not be happy.
I'm not saying he should
but I'm saying
I will not have a problem
with it.
I'll have a problem with it.
He's one of
is he like one of the three
people who are
the top three
are Warren
Sanders and Biden.
It is Biden still out in front
and we'll see if the debate has a has a impact on this oh it's sure sure well we it should but
it often actually does not it always does no it was actually always this is what is more rated
highly rated than the others though i agree that i agree that it should we we will we remain to
be seen by the time this comes out, we may know.
I mean, Marianne.
Most searched person.
Yeah, she's our president.
I would say this.
Our president.
I would say this.
Despite being by far the most embarrassing person on stage,
she will surge in front of Hick and Looper.
For sure.
She will move to the center.
Yeah.
Oh, no, no, no.
She's for sure going to kick out of Bano.
I think she can do that wow that's
fucking yeah i bet you watch this is what happened this is what happened with trump
all this little auxiliary weirdo she ain't gonna do much halfway through yeah yeah yeah yeah also
she's got the oprah connection she's got the oprah connection but oprah would oh of course not
oh oprah however oprah also has Dr. Phil and Dr. Oz.
So maybe we shouldn't just...
I keep forgetting that element about Oprah.
She surrounded herself with some amazing black people
and the worst white people in the world.
Oprah has flies on her.
Yeah, she is Dr. Phil.
What were we going to say?
Did you watch this clip of an old Super Soul Sunday interview
between Mary and Oprah?
I did not watch that clip, no.
It's so fun.
I'm sure it is. I'm sure that she has
good things to say about spiritual wellness
if you actually want to engage.
I think there was a piece of gay information
that was somebody put in the air.
A piece of gay information. Title of app.
Marianne, that she was a piece of gay information.
That's good.
Marianne. I think, wasn't she roommates
with Laura Dern?
Which is the most iconic gay shit I've ever heard in my life.
Which also is like, oh, now I know that character from Big Little Lies came through.
No, because you know that Renata Klein has two sessions a week with Marianne Williams.
Absolutely.
One hundred percent.
There's no way.
Renata Klein thinks that Marianne calms her down.
Yeah, Laura Dern is not that person at all.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
That's how I feel like Laura Dern is able to play that person.
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Thank you for that introduction.
I'm going to slip you a couple of 20s under the table for that.
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Shall we talk about Big Little Lies a little bit? Sure.
I'm not watching it this evening. Oh, bitch.
Okay, well, let's just say
we're talking about cartoons.
Honey. I'm sure it's a full cartoon.
It's a full cartoon.
I do that thing where I wait till it's all out and watch it.
You do. I get that.
See, I like that. We were talking about this.
I like that it's week to week. Me too.
I like week to week for certain things. Like Drag Race? Week to week. Yeah. I love that life. Of course. I'm not a We were talking about this. I like that it's week to week. Me too. I like week to week for certain things.
Like Drag Race, week to week.
Yeah.
I love that life.
Yes, of course.
Yeah, I'm not a binger of Drag Race.
No, you can't do it.
I watch it twice.
I watch it when I go out.
And then I watch it again to make sure I didn't miss anything.
Yes, you guys are multiple watchers.
I just can't even sit through.
I just stopped watching after this season.
I will start watching again.
Where do you watch it in Los Angeles? I mean, I'm not the first person who's told you that this has not it after this season. I will start watching it again. Where do you watch it in Los Angeles?
I mean, I'm not the first person who's told you that this has not been the best season.
You know what?
People say that.
And they learn their lessons later.
Because, like, season seven was considered one of the worst seasons.
Literally.
It holds up.
It holds up.
I was saying.
Every one of those queens is usually some of the best queens.
Of course.
It's true.
Even Jasmine.
Like, literally all of them.
Like you can't even
name a bad one in the group.
I said,
I said after season seven,
even immediately
after it stopped,
I was like,
it really firmed up
by the end
where the top three
I really fucking loved.
Or the top four,
like five,
Katya,
Kennedy,
Pearl,
and Violet,
and fucking Ginger.
That's a good top five.
I think stuff appears
boring initially.
Yes.
Because especially when you,
especially since we're literally
watching seasons back to back
to each other,
but in the scope of time,
when I watch seasons again,
I'm just like,
that was excellent.
It was amazing.
I clocked it back then,
but 12,
it's just,
or 12,
11,
it was just like,
I mean,
the tea that's been coming out
about the reshoots and stuff,
like,
it's bad.
I love that.
I love that they were like,
not good enough,
but I love that they tried
to make Evie Oddly a villain
and failed.
And tried to make fucking
Silky a hero and failed.
That's what,
I love that aspect of it.
But I don't know,
it was working for me though.
I liked Silky so much more
than Evie.
I famously do not appreciate
Evie Oddly at all. I know it sucks for me, but like, Iky so much more than Evie. I famously do not appreciate Evie oddly at all.
I know it sucks for me but
I don't get it and won't
get it going forward. See I wish I could
have some response to Evie. We live two different
lives. We truly do and that's fine.
Also I heard the season 12 calls are going out
right now. Yes. Because they just finished
All Stars.
Did they finish them? I think
they're almost done or should be done soon.
I can't believe we're getting another All-Star so soon.
That is too much.
I'm more excited about this one.
Who is in it?
Cracker.
Do we have an unconfirmed list of who's in it?
I know Shay is.
That's what we've been waiting for.
Is Asia?
I don't know.
I hear Asia is.
There's a lot of rumors.
I think the rumors are
Shay, Cracker.
Kim Chi?
No.
No.
Kim Chi's never doing it.
I want her to do it again
so badly.
She won't do it.
She doesn't want to.
She's a great look queen
but those challenges
are not her game.
They're not made for her.
She can see all stars
and she knows
she would crash and burn.
But I just think
It was by the grace of God
she even made the top of three
in her own season
she has the most followers
out of all the queens
I know
she has the
like there's literally
no reason for her
to do it again
I know
but just her
you just want an Asian
with a crown don't you
no it's not that
it's just
she was just a very
I think someone should
by now
it's insane that
that's not happening
sure I mean it's fine
I don't
I'm particularly
Plastique
Plastique is there though
Plastique is
yes Plastique is
All Stars 5
I just think I just Kim Chi's arc wasastique is yes Plastique is All Stars 5 I just think
I just
Kim Chi's arc
was just
the most emotional arc
for me
on All Stars
on Drag Race
she's still not even out
to her
still to this day
which is
fucking insane
I am obsessed
like you are a
superstar
yeah
and just an element
global superstar
yeah
anyway
it's just
it's Shakespearean
I just love it
anyway
Drag Race I think yeah I'll I just it's Shakespearean it's I just love it anyway um Drag Race I
think yeah I just got to
give I'll watch 11 you
didn't miss anything on
the season I mean this
is the most wooden I
but Solomon I think that
we can we can say that
season 7 holds up we can
also I can make a
prediction and I will
write in a small envelope
and put it on top of
that desk and it was in a book and I will write in a small envelope and put it on top of that desk.
And it was in a bookshelf.
And I will say seasonal 12 doesn't hold up.
And in five years,
we'll all come back here and we'll open it up.
And during season 17 of RuPaul's Drag Race season 11 will not hold up.
Yes.
You mean,
you mean 11 is what I meant to say.
I don't think it will hold up.
I don't think they were compelling characters.
I think the winner was a five.
I think that like...
Okay, first of all...
In the grand scheme, Solomon,
I don't think Evie is that great.
That was the best lip sync.
Which one?
Her versus Brooklyn Heights.
I agree with you.
It was a great lip sync.
And both of them.
100%.
I'm talking about both of them.
I do say both of them.
I am on record saying
that I think that was a fantastic lip sync
both of them one of the best in the series history
but as a season the fact that
that was the only moment
it was the only moment Solomon
we lived two different lives
well what is your life
look I think the tensions are fantastic
Vanjie I don't think there's been a better description
of anyone walking down the runway
than the way Vanjie describes her looks.
Such there's no breath taken.
There's no, she doesn't really describe anything you're visually seeing, which is even better.
Vanjie's great.
I'm very hooker on the day I drive.
I'm serving you cake.
I'm wearing boots up down the street.
She's like, I think she's wearing heels.
I got my boots on, got my dress on, I'm looking good.
Ha! Vanjie!
I'm still John, I'm flipping tricks.
I'm eating dicks.
I'm doing whatever I need to do to make sure these judges see me for who I am, what I'm doing.
They're going to love this look.
I'm going to pop it.
I'm going to lock it.
I'm going to stop.
And it's like.
She gave me an attitude.
You know she bad.
Bitch, you're just walking really fast.
Calm the fuck down.
Wow.
I do love her runway walk.
And I actually, like, most of the time I thought she looked great on the runway.
And I always understood Michelle's critiques.
But I was like, oh, who cares?
It kind of was like Alyssa syndrome where it was like,
you never are mad.
you're never mad.
Here's the issue that I had with like,
cause she keeps pointing out the bodysuit issue,
which is like,
I don't see what the problem is.
Like,
like here,
like if that was like,
like compared to like the seasons past,
like bitches couldn't get outfits like that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Bitches couldn't get their tuck like that.
Well,
this is,
I think the whole,
this is where the whole,
like, where the conversation
gets less fun
and it's like the whole
drag race industrial complex
of it all
where it's like,
we expect so fucking much
from these queens.
Exactly.
That's why I'm having
a problem with your...
Well, the show is what it is.
Like, in comparison to,
like, what I saw this season
was so fucking amazing
and none of it was easy.
Like, Kyria's outfits,
I think, were some of the fucking most insane things I've seen in my life.
Kyria looks right on the runway.
You know what's interesting, actually?
Sorry to cut anybody off, but
it's the kind
of competition show that
demands so much
that the audience demands so much of from
its contestants over
as the series gets bigger and bigger.
And as it progresses.
So it's,
it's not like you're watching top chef and you're like,
I'm bored.
Like I've seen this before or that you're like,
I wish they would do more.
Like,
well,
you know,
like they have more resources now.
Like,
you know,
cause it's not like top chef.
You're not thinking that like,
um,
you know,
talent competitions.
You're not really like snooze snore.
I saw,
you know,
this person reminds me of this.
Maybe on some level, I guess
with Idol it sort of happened, but
it's like
with Project Runway, you're not like
the bar keeps getting raised
so much and it's not scaling
with the audience and we don't
have a sense of how it proportionizes.
To me, my only problem
is this season was devoid
of wit intelligence and soul it's what i said it was it's exactly what you said go ahead and say
make your point on here lost culture is i said on what the talk when matt was hosting with mono um
that at the beginning of the season i think this is like episode three it was early early yeah i
came in early and i was like i don't think there's anyone on this season season
11 whose brain I want
to be like whoa
what's your mind like you have such an
incredible mind there's no like
Bob or Alaska or Katya
or you know fucking even
Trixie or
someone on season 10 like
even like Asia like
people who are just so beyond me.
Or even the fashion forwardness of Aquaria.
You know what I mean?
Yes, even Aquaria.
I'm just like,
you guys are so creative.
Wow.
And honestly,
the closest person that came to that,
I will concede,
was Evie.
I will be honest.
It is truly the dumbest group of
Dark Queens
in the history of the show.
It was pretty surprising.
Because like, especially how the rest of the seasons the seasons where i'm like these bitches are brilliant
geniuses like and you get like that like like it'd be like it's like it was almost like a season of
like derrick berry level intelligence yes very bad and i just i would just let's just go through it
tell me bob the drag queen doesn't win this season walking in oh he won tell me aquaria
doesn't win this season walking in not necessarily, he won me too. Tell me Aquaria doesn't win this season walking in.
Not necessarily.
Absolutely, she does hands down.
Hands up against.
You think that against Evie, oddly, Aquaria doesn't win?
No, I mean walking into their season.
Oh, wait, what are you talking about?
Like a winner season?
No, no, no.
I'm not saying winner season.
I'm saying Aquaria in season 11.
Oh, got it, got it, got it, got it.
Wins hands down.
Yeah, sure, sure, sure.
Compared to everyone else?
Yes.
We live two different lives. That's crazy to me. I love her it, got it, got it, got it. Wins hands down. Yeah, sure, sure, sure. Compared to everyone else? Yes. We live two different lives.
That's crazy to me.
I love her so much,
but she's not,
that's probably the only one
I will contest.
Okay.
Before, I used to contest
the one before,
but then I came into terms.
Sasha Velour?
Yeah.
No, I think, yeah.
That to me is a dark horse win.
The definition of a dark horse win.
She was a deserved win.
It was a deserved win and
especially going to her shows afterwards.
I was like, oh, this bitch
is the winner.
She won. I would say that there were
four queens in season nine that would have beat Evie Oddly.
And they were all the top four.
That is
tough. That's tough.
I think Evie Oddly can't hold her own
and Evie Oddly
is young enough
to keep going
that's
well yeah
young enough
to keep going
I'm just saying
in terms of season 11
this is my point
about season 11
is it was a
dumbed down season
it was a watered down season
that's like my
yeah that's like
a meaner way to say
what I'm saying
but I'm gonna be honest
with you
like one thing
that I think
would save the fucking
like I get what you're saying
but also I think going for I honest with you. Like one thing that I think would save the fucking, like I get what you're saying,
but also I think going,
I just said 30 minutes needs to go away from the show.
Yeah.
100%.
Absolutely.
100%.
It's literally what's,
they're trying to drive
some weird,
like I don't understand.
It must be like ad sales,
like they make more money
off of it or something.
But I just can't imagine,
like it's like,
because at some point I'm like,
most of these ads
are just VH1 shows.
So give me an hour.
Yeah like Boy Butter.
I mean I do miss that logo aspect of it.
To me the epitome
of like what was wrong with this season
were those Maury-esque
videos they did at the end of the finale.
Those I actually loved. I did not love them.
Because I saw them for what they were stupid as fuck
and a waste of time. I love that element.
I agree they were stupid, but that was a time filler.
And I was like, where the fuck is Rue?
You know what I mean?
I was like, Rue is not here anymore.
That's the best part.
Like, that's what I love is when they decide, like, Rue doesn't want to do this.
What are we going to do to fill the time?
See, I hate that.
I think it looks bad now, but I bet you when you rewatch it later, you're going to be like,
this is so stupid and it's so fun.
Are we going to watch? Are we going to look back on season 11 nost're going to be like, this is so stupid and it's so fun. Are we going to watch,
are we going to like look back on season 11 nostalgically
and be like, oh, what a great season?
Because it's actually good
or because the show is going to get worse
as the years go by.
Fingers crossed it gets worse.
I'm here for a sticking ship.
There you go.
I am not.
I like things falling apart from the inside
because it A, gives the ability
for better things to come along.
Sure.
Better TV, better drug stuff to come along.
I agree.
I agree.
And then you can just, and then you get to enjoy that last queen who's like, no one cares
about me.
And you're like, oh.
And I love, I love a queen whose career starts off rocky and doesn't go anywhere.
Damn.
I will say this.
It was bound to happen.
Like the show was bound to like slope down.
Turn down.
It reached its imperial phase i will say this if i'm a drag queen out there right now i'm fucking
really trying to get my tape i'm trying i'm trying to get on the show for season 12 season 13 the
latest yeah because it's like bitch i mean it's time now because that show is gonna it's gonna
start i mean the ratings are already going down but it's time now. Because that show is going to start dipping. I mean, the ratings are already going down.
True, but it's time now.
But it's also literally so many other venues
or drag queens are now more accessible
than they used to be.
Absolutely, that is true.
I mean, on our own network.
Web series that people are actually watching,
people caring about.
Like, there's names of local queens
that are becoming more well-known,
which is phenomenal.
Like, the amount of queens that I know from here, and, i mean phenomenal like it's like the amount of
queens that i know from here and like like i can like i never would have known them before
and you know them because you saw them on tv or on the internet or like you know what you know
i mean britta filter is more booked this pride than she's ever been in her fucking life i mean
britta is everywhere and she's never been on the show and i literally heard about her yeah before
i even came to new york for a yeah, no, she's the real deal.
There were four queens at this party last night.
Did you hear about
the party last night?
Wait,
can you spill all the tea
on this party?
Yeah,
it was fine.
There was a party last night?
There was a party last night.
It was fine.
It was actually great.
It was not.
It was actually great
and I'm really glad.
I say it's fine
because I'm so fucking hungover
and I am on three hours of sleep
and I went into work
and then I went into
this meeting with Matt,
this breakfast meeting
a power breakfast
it was these four
it was these four drag queens
West Dakota
Selena T
and
Harajuku
and one other
but they came on
and did Lady Marmalade
and then
Lil' Kim herself
pops out
during her verse
Lil' Kim herself
but this was the scuttlebutt.
They were like, a special midnight performance,
special midnight guest coming out.
And I had heard from Fran Tirado,
deputy editor at
Magazine, who organized the party,
was like, come, come.
And then you were supposed to go.
I was supposed to go, but I had to record.
I'm on an animated show.
A show. Wow.
Our cartoon president
can you spill the tea?
were you Pete?
I can spill all the tea
I'm Ben Shapiro
I'm Mayor Pete
and I'm Bill Shine
I love that
wonderful
great casting
but yeah
Lil Kim pops out
and she did
wow
what was that like?
I mean it was cool.
Is she a little munchkin?
She's a little munchkin.
She sounds nothing like she used to.
Even better.
It's interesting how her timbre goes up.
Now she's like, you know.
Come through, the manning and the god, I mean.
Yeah.
It was so squeaky.
Because her voice wasn't so deep.
Because you think Lil' Kim on the track and it's like deep and husky.
She looks like Minnie Mouse. husky she looks like Minnie Mouse
and now she looks like
and she was like
she was like
I love you so much
I'm so happy
to be celebrating
and it was like
kind of like jarring
but like you know what
it's fucking Lil' Kim
her voice when she speaks
is a higher timbre
it is
but when she's rapping
maybe
she's like a reverse Maya
she's a reverse Maya
because Maya has a husky voice
when she speaks
and then the second she sings you're like what is this yeah yeah yeah it's so funny but yeah she was there She's like a reverse Maya. She's a reverse Maya. Because Maya has a husky voice when she speaks.
And then the second she sings, you're like, what is this? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's so funny.
But yeah, she was there and it was great.
It was a fun time.
Wow.
Anyway.
We love that.
But what was I going to say?
Oh, no, yeah, but these queens were paid so well for doing this.
Good.
They make fucking bank.
Oh, and Alaska was there, too.
Alaska entered the girls' house.
I did see that someone recorded Alaska
Alaska has this new song
called Pride
that she performed
and one of the rhymes
is something something
something pride
and then yeah
the next one is
at Stonewall
nobody died
it's fantastic
at Stonewall
nobody died
oh yes
I saw her perform it
Wednesday
oh great
the opening ceremonies
oh
at Barclays
yes I didn't go to this fucking thing and Britta was there but I didn't go to this fucking thing it was fun it was fun Wednesday oh great the opening ceremonies oh of Barclays yes
I didn't go to this
fucking thing
and Britta was there
but I didn't go to this
fucking thing
it was fun
it was fun
Chaka Khan was there
Chaka
what did she sing
I'm Every Woman
yeah
she opened it with
I Think I Love You
no no
she had the first
song
no no no
she did
I Feel For You
Ain't Nobody
we need Ain't Nobody
I Feel For You then Ain't Nobody and then she ended with I'm Every Woman great wow saw no no no she did um i feel for you ain't nobody ain't nobody i feel sorry i feel for you
then ain't nobody and then she ended with um i'm every woman great wow shaka is forever shaka was
on watch what happens last week and fucking slayed shaka was like um andy was like what can you tell
us about the late prince and she was like he was lonely she is then he goes, were you guys close?
And she was like, not in the last year.
In the last year.
She's so good.
He goes, what can you tell us about Aretha Franklin?
You're one of her few friends.
And she goes, yeah, well, she didn't have time for anyone else.
She's so, like, indignant.
Shaka is it.
Shaka is it.
And she also looks Absolutely smashed
Her and Grace Jones
Are hands down
Such iconic people
And the way they speak
And just are like
Matter of fact
About absolutely
Like don't bother me with that
I don't want none of that
She's like what are you doing
It's also these women
That are like still around
That like Patti LaBelle's
Of it all
The Chaka's of it all
It's like whenever
Whitney gets
I forget Aaron Jackson
Mentioned the other day
That like He thinks it was An interview with Aaron Jackson mentioned the other day that like...
He thinks it was an interview with Patti LaValle,
which was like...
She was being asked about Whitney and she was like,
yeah, you know, when Whitney got older and her voice went away.
I never lost my voice.
Like they can't stop.
They can't stop themselves.
I never lost my voice.
It has to be like...
Oh, my.
Wow.
A loop back to them.
I love that. It's so... I never that it's so i never lost my i never lost
my voice i oh my god that's so fucking good so good you know i think there was one of my favorite
stories about uh like i think it was grace jones it was studio 54 when bianca jagger showed up
nude and the white horse and grace jones was the corner and is like I did that last year
on a white tiger
I think I heard about this
yes
I did that last year
on a white tiger
girlfriend you are so on
girlfriend you are so on
when I said girlfriend
you were so on
when I said girlfriend
you were so on
if you're listening
Donald Trump
if you're listening
I think you know what you're doing and I't know, Chum, if you're listening.
I think you know what you're doing.
And I'll see you on the field.
And love will win.
No, she goes,
I will harness love
for political gain.
And I will meet you.
Political gain.
Or political whatever.
And she goes,
I will meet you on that field.
And sir,
she goes, sir.
And sir,
love will win.
I just want to take this moment
to please vote for Elizabeth Warren
at every point.
Yes. Please do everything you can to get Elizabeth Warren. I am want to take this moment to please vote for Elizabeth Warren at every point. Yes.
Please do everything you can to get Elizabeth Warren.
So prior to the debates, I was like fully in the tank for Warren.
No.
What about now?
Despite I had given more money to Kamala, and now I've given even more money to Kamala,
and I am a Kamala supporter.
I am a Kamala and Warren supporter.
I support them both.
I'm looking forward to supporting them both all the way to the end
until they're the final two
and then I'll make my decision.
They took a very cute selfie
and I'm sorry
that I'm describing it
in these very like,
you know,
I don't mean to be patronizing.
Stop, white.
You are pejorative
towards women.
No, but they took
such a cute selfie
I think last night
or the night before
where it was just like,
it was like,
oh, these two fucking
Well, they do like each other.
I genuinely believe
that most people up there
like each other.
In fact, like in the debate, in the second night debate, they even said,
I just want to say there's a lot of people up here with great ideas.
But to me, it's just like the big story of it is that Biden isn't prepared.
Yes, which is perfect.
And that's what I love.
I love that, too.
It's what I love.
That is one thing I truly enjoy about so many awful white men
is that they just get their comeuppance
that is the definition of privilege
he would have gotten his comeuppance
if this was a Republican
totally but since he's going up
against
people
I think it's the definition of privilege
to wait to announce last
coast on your
sorry but buddy's accomplishments the whole fucking time
and then act like you are like entitled to to success in these debates and success in this
primary you have a lot of amazing politicians that are up there that have been working for
this since the moment trump got elected, maybe even before.
And I have always
been someone who's had his eye on Kamala.
And I actually saw her
speak at a
fundraiser. I went to a fundraiser
in Los Angeles with Nico,
shout out, and Greta, and Abe,
and we all went, and I gave
money, and I was, I
felt like I was watching someone who could
be president speak and she said
and she looked everyone in the eyes and she said I
fully intend to win this election and I
bought it and that's the thing about her last night is
I bought every word she said and I bought her
as a leader and as a president and
most importantly I think in the immediate
in the immediacy of it all
I bought her as someone who can make Trump look fucking
stupid. Well she's very good
at forensic stuff,
at just like debate,
at like breaking,
at like poking holes
in your argument.
She's much more,
like she is much more tactful
about being,
at attacking people.
She'll walk you
right up to the cliff.
Yeah, she will.
She's a prosecutor.
Like she gets it.
Which is sort of why
I want Warren more.
See, it doesn't matter to me which one of them is president.
I just think I want them both in there as long as possible.
And I want them in positions of power in our government.
And they are already, but, you know.
I truly just want.
A leader's a leader.
I want, of those, I think it just doesn't make any sense.
Because there's a, literally, for whoever, whatever man you want to vote for in this primary,
there is literally a woman of
equal or greater value than me.
So it's insane to even support any woman.
Including Marianne.
Someone said to me, he's like, let me vote.
If you're going to vote for Biden, you better just vote for Marianne.
Someone said to me, they were like, let me
float this ticket by you, Warren and Booker.
I'm like, see, why? I was like, why
when there's Kamala there, you get everything and more?
It doesn't make any sense.
It was like when Hillary
fucking brought Tim Kaine on with her. I was like,
who the fuck? Why?
The Spanish, honestly. How dare we?
That's insane. LOL ironic.
And because he was kind of like a
centrist. He was
the most guy.
I would rather have her
put a cup of
tapioca pudding
in front of me
and be like
this is my vice president
I'm like well I'll vote
for you still
for tapioca
no um
I got reminded of
another thing
Marianne said
was um
just a really quick
offhand thing
was um
she goes um
and you can have
a young body
but old ideas
yes
you can have a young body
but old ideas
it's very funny.
Honestly. An icon.
You know what? Like I said before,
so fucking what if she's not gonna
make it that far. I mean, maybe she
changes minds
for the worse and
makes more people anti-vax or whatever,
which I don't think she actually is.
But even if she was an anti-vax,
ex-homophobe, like I said, she's a fun Anita Bryant and don't think she actually is but even if she was an anti-vax ex-homophobe like I said
she's a fun Anita Bryant and
don't we stan
they came for her hard on The View too
she should for sure
she should be on TV
she should just be on TV
Drag Race Judge
she has a blog on her
she has a blog on her website
and she like posted a clip of her on The View,
and then the title of it was,
that she wrote was,
Meghan McCain, bless your heart.
You try to comfort me.
You told me straight up to drop out of this race,
and I will never do it.
She literally said Meghan McCain,
bless your heart.
Meghan McCain on The View today
was actually nicer than Sonny was.
Sonny was like,
I was embarrassed for her. It was like, Sonny was being nicer than Sonny was. Sonny was like, I was embarrassed for her.
It was like, Sonny was being kind of cruel.
And Megan McCain was just like,
this provided me so much entertainment. I had
a bunch of people over. Maybe I'm meaner than you guys,
but I was laughing my ass off at this. And Sonny
was like, I was embarrassed for her. I was
really embarrassed for her. And my 16
year old son said, what is a president?
And I said, all you have to be is a certain age, but that
doesn't mean you should. It was just like, bitch she's gonna drop out she's she's not gonna
be president although sudi said she thought it made us look stupid as a party and i don't i don't
i don't really think so i don't think it's bad to have a diversity of opinion even if it's weird
opinions and well um what was i gonna say what was I going to say? What was I going to say? Oh, fucking God,
could you imagine
a worse social situation
than a fucking viewing party
at Meghan McCain's?
Oh my God.
What a fucking nightmare.
I would scream
in so many languages.
It would be,
oh God.
Before we get to
I Don't Think So Honey,
how's it been
for writing on Shrill?
Oh my God,
yes.
I,
it's really,
I've been really lucky,
especially this job and the last job I had,
it's been women run rooms.
Yes.
And it is the most efficient, fun spaces I've ever been in in my life.
You've got some great people in there.
It's hands down.
Like, I can't, like, I'm counting my lucky stars
and I'm worried that I will,
everything will be taken from me
because it's been way too nice.
No, stop, stop, stop. I'm re-watching the first season now because it's been way too nice. No, stop, stop, stop.
I'm re-watching the first season now,
and it's really, really good.
It makes me, because I've actually,
I've known Lindy West.
Oh, really?
Yes.
I'm in the book.
You're in the book?
Briefly mentioned Solomon Georgiou.
That's my first credit.
Briefly mentioned and shrill by Lindy West.
No, I was living in Seattle,
and right when I started comedy, that's when I became friends her and yeah so it was bananas to be in the room with her
because every once in a while we just look at each other like tv show yeah that's so cool that's so
cool like we were we were like oh we were just 20 something not that long ago now it's like
oh wow this is bananas it's so cool and you're it's yeah like it's so cool. And you're,
it's,
yeah,
like it's so crazy how that works out
where it's like
you're this qualified,
amazing comedian and writer.
Look,
I'm amazing,
qualified.
Let's not just
throw that out.
Amazing,
qualified.
No,
yes,
no,
thank you.
And then,
you know,
and Sudi loves you.
Sudi is truly,
she's an icon.
She's,
Sudi is,
Sudi just fucking
blows Marianne out of the water in terms of Icon sudi just fucking blows marianne out of the water in terms
of i can not go
blows marianne out of the water
culture number 44 sudi blows
marianne out of the water
um sudi said to me the other day she goes i will not
enthusiastically support a man for president
i was like even if he's the nominee and she goes no
yeah i mean she'll vote
for him i mean yes i was just but i was
thinking to myself after she said that i was like she often says things and i'm like what are you talking about and then 15
minutes and then 15 minutes later i'm like she's right because she'll break it down for you yeah
like we had this whole thing i'm not shy about saying this like remember we were at my house
over the summer and it was right after ariana grande had worn that dress at aretha franklin's
funeral and i was like i mean she could have dressed appropriately for the funeral and she
was like she pointed at me and she was like no you always take the side of the woman
in this situation she would wear whatever she wants yes and it'd feel good to say that right
and i was like sudi and then afterwards i was like no she's right she should wear whatever she
wants of course she's right yeah she's always right and then for the and and the whipsaw to
that is that ariana got fucking gross yeah but that was totally separate from what i was saying
yeah but and fuck you for bringing it up i'm not saying that you tied it to that is that Ariana got fucking Groped yeah but that was totally separate from what I was Saying yeah but and fuck you for
Bringing it up I'm not saying that you tied
It to that argument I'm saying like for Ariana
For Ari it's like she wore
A thing and then like that was
An invitation an un
Open like an uninvited
Thing for someone to like fucking
Her you know
Touch her so yeah that was totally
Separate from what I was saying no that's not I'm
not you are by bringing it up you are
saying that you know what I yeah
thank you Salman by taking
no side at all you're taking no he took my side
I took neither side I am
neither I see how both of them are right
and I'm okay to
not select one and it's actually very modern to
hold two conflicting ideas in your head at the same
just like Joe Biden just like Joe Biden to hold two conflicting ideas in your head at the same time. Just like Joe Biden. Just like Joe Biden.
Constant conflicting ideas.
Constant conflicting ideas.
Pick one.
I feel like he's never approved of himself in his head.
Wow.
I think that's all false bravado.
I mean, talk about someone who's truly sat there.
Just as truly our government has fallen into the separate sex that it is.
I mean, he's been involved the whole fucking
time and he just has all these
terrible terrible marks
on his right I mean also the Anita
Hill stuff and if you if we don't have
like his career yeah insane but
can we talk about his selection of new teeth
why is it impossible
he don't look good like someone
once finally said do celebrities know that
teeth come in medium do celebrities know that teeth come in medium?
I love that.
Do celebrities know that teeth come in medium?
Wow.
Because they just go for the biggest new set of chompers,
and it's bananas because it's so brilliant white.
It's like, what are you doing?
Why old?
100%.
Oh, my God.
Well, it's time for I Don't Think So Honey.
Yes, this is our segment where we take one minute
to go off on culture.
Solomon, veteran of the form, who came up because we had some dropouts as we do at our shows.
Our last Brooklyn show, we had a couple dropouts.
Solomon was in attendance anyway.
He was in attendance and we said, well, we literally stopped the stage.
Can you come up after the second half?
And he was like, absolutely.
Came up fucking killed.
And I was like,
oh, he didn't even know he was going to do the show
until like 20 minutes ago.
What a fucking genius.
Look, I just have a lot of things to be unhappy about.
I love that.
A lot of I don't think so's
just flowing through me at all times.
Flowing through.
Okay, so let's start with Matt.
You have something?
Or I can go first.
I think I do.
I mean, I don't think so many of us Joe Biden, but I can still do my thing.
Yes.
Okay.
I think you still can.
This is Matt Rogers.
I don't think so many of his time starts now.
I don't think so many hick and looper.
Who the fuck are you?
What did you do?
I'm not even kidding you.
Do I remember one thing you said?
I don't think so, honey.
Like, it's not even about you having bad ideas or bad positions.
It's the fact that I don't recall anything that happened.
I know you stood to the left of Marianne.
Literally, I know where you were in relation to Marianne, bitch.
Do I remember anything you did or said?
I don't think so, honey.
I also want to say, I don't think so, honey.
Bennett, bitch, it's called a consonant.
Chew on it.
Bitch, you need to learn how to speak words.
You're coming from my Coloradans.
I think that he should learn how to talk.
Does he know how to talk?
I don't think so, honey.
15 seconds.
I don't think so, honey.
Really, all the white men on the stage, except Mayor Pete, who I still like.
Maybe he's not the best in Solomon's words but I still like Mayor Pete.
I still find him impressive.
Five seconds.
I think he is running
for vice president.
Should he be president?
I don't think so honey
but I don't think so honey
any of these white dudes.
And that's one minute.
You like Swalwell.
Did you say you would
fuck Swalwell?
No I said I would
fuck Swalwell.
That's a whole different story.
That's a whole different thing.
You know everyone's saying
they'd fuck Inslee too
and I'm like
this is a weird
creepy daddy thing.
I don't know.
That is.
As a Seattleite what's the demonym? Seattleite. Inslee too and I'm like this is a weird creepy daddy thing like I don't know that is yeah as a
Seattle and as a Seattleite what's the
demonym Seattleite
I kind of love that Seattleite
that's what it's called yeah that's what it is
I kind of love oh that's fun maybe
that you know that's what it is
yeah we did that
and like how is Jay Inslee
were you ever in the state when he was governor
I think I was in the state for the very beginning of his term.
And it's fine.
It's really one of those places where it's just like,
you can't really mess up because there's enough liberal votes that you can.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's fine.
He's fine.
He's fine.
Oh, also de Blasio.
That was a fucking joke.
De Blasio.
Screaming.
He made one good point.
He had some good moments. He made one good point about how people in this country believe that immigrants have created their bad situation.
When really that's all corporate bullshit.
And everybody's like, look at this turd shine.
Like, calm down.
He's not.
He's still not.
It was truly one good point.
And I do think it's like the most direct that that's been said somehow.
Sure, sure.
But like, what the fuck are you doing there, dude?
The city's on fire
fucking yeah hick and looper and bennett you know my two my two colorado daddies so hick and looper
is is kind of an interesting i mean yeah like very moderate dude truly what did he even say
i don't remember i didn't really want i was i didn't watch live last night but you're not
i'm trying to remember i just watched the whole thing today.
I know.
And I like do not remember anything.
Also, Tim Ryan.
What the hell?
Tim Ryan.
Tim Ryan.
And truly the confidence these men have to even show up.
Yeah.
You can call in sick, buddy.
You're not going to be president.
And oh, and Delaney
some people are
it's interesting there was like a headline that was like Delaney
cements himself as the
as like the sad sack
of this primary season
and stuff it's like oh well we don't have to like
think of it in those terms I will say this if you're gonna
be a boring white guy at least come out there
with strong with an issue.
And this is what I appreciate
about Inslee is he made it
about climate change.
He's obviously the
climate change candidate.
And I think he's not
playing to win.
And that's like, fine.
At least he's making a dent.
He's focusing on one policy.
And he's coming for
a cabinet position,
which is like fine.
Which is brilliant.
That's some great words.
It is definitely trued.
But Swalwell too,
his thing is guns.
And I appreciate someone up there making it about gun control.
Because it's something that, because it's not right on the tip of our tongues right now, we forget about.
But it is a serious, serious problem.
And I appreciate someone's up there making it about guns.
And Gillibrand also, I think, is not playing to win.
I think she's playing for cabinet or VP. And she's making it about guns and jillibrand also i think is not playing to win i think she's playing for cabinet or vp and she's
making it about a few issues as well well no
because it's brilliant because a
fucking the debate questions
they were bad he's gonna do it
yes please do so yeah
yeah i mean i literally was about to transition
into what i think you're doing
so please by all means i mean i'm just gonna
i'm mine's not about yeah
by all means explain it we'll discuss it after we'll discuss Mine's not about. Yeah. By all means, explain it.
We'll discuss it after.
We'll discuss it after.
I might not have too much to work off of.
Well, I love all this qualifying.
Stop.
This is Bowen Yang's I Don't Think So Honey as time starts now.
I don't think so many Chuck Todd.
And I'm going to go after your fucking looks, bitch.
I don't like your little art bangs that you're trying out.
You just shave the whole thing.
You'd look great with a bald head, honey.
And you're trying to go for real smug,
and you're bringing this attitude to all your questions,
and you're really pushing.
You're like, answer the question, Tensei.
You're like, you.
There was not this energy with Savannah or with Jose
or with Lester.
30 seconds.
You and Matto.
Matto was also being real like,
I'm going to be bookish and scholarly and eye-rolly
and look at this guy.
I just didn't like the whole tone and tenor of the debates
when they were moderating.
I was like, I'm not into this.
Give me Savannah.
Give me the straights.
Give me the straights and not Chuck Todd,
who I'm going to consider to be queer because he has art bangs. Five seconds. give me Savannah, give me the straights, give me the straights and not Chuck Todd, who,
you know,
I'm going to consider to be queer because he has art bangs.
And so also you are just so God,
you've ruined meet the press,
meet the press daily.
No way. You run that show into the ground.
That's one minute.
I,
I think that honestly,
like the questions were so bad.
I'm sorry,
but these issues aren't one word issues.
So they're going to need to say more than one word.
It's like, I wish there was like some sort of like platform,
maybe on the internet that lets you know exactly what the issues are
that people are focused.
Oh yeah, there is.
There's literally so much like you could have just gotten
what was the trending topics of the day from the fucking internet.
He's not good.
Truly the dumbest questions
I ever thought. It could have easily
just been, what do you guys think of Trump?
Go.
Also, why did we need five moderators?
Why did we need to switch?
Because of fairness or something.
I don't know. Fairness?
Because it was split over two nights and so they needed
two sets of moderators so that they didn't get too fatigued or something. I don't know. Fairness. Because there's so many, because it was split over two nights and so they needed like two sets of moderators
so that they didn't get too fatigued or something.
I don't know what the rationale was.
Was one of the moderators the sound person?
Because they for sure.
Oh, the sound person.
Oh, that was ridiculous too.
That was a fucking joke.
That was like out of fucking Veep or some shit.
Yeah, it was so stupid.
That's insane.
That's literally the easiest thing to not mismanage
and it's just the first thing they fucked.
Oh, and then on night one,
yeah, that was the night where
it was like asking Warren about gun
control, about Parkland. It was like
kind of so inappropriate
and so like, oh God, this is so
sad and embarrassing. You ruined a great moment.
Well, it was just, yeah.
That was rough and I really, I mean, whoever
told, I think it was Sudi that said,
someone obviously told Rachel Maddow
and Chuck Todd they're fun together. Their bit in the beginning when Chuck was like, you know, Rachel, I had a was Sudi that said, someone obviously told Rachel Maddow and Chuck Todd their fun together.
Their bit in the beginning when Chuck was like,
you know, Rachel, I had a dream we did this before.
And she's like, nope, never. This is the first time.
I was like, you guys, this sucks. What is that?
It's truly painful. Just ask the question.
Just do your job. We don't need a bit.
Yeah. I'm not here for moderators
having fun. No. Just like, honestly,
or honestly, like, get
someone in there who can write you
a good joke.
Yeah.
No.
Because you have to understand
they don't have that ability
to deliver a joke.
I believe Maddow does.
Maddow does.
No Maddow will
throw down a dad joke
like no one's business.
And Maddow will be like
Nicole Silverberg
has this great observation
that Rachel Maddow
will like say something like
we've got
we've got two pages out of fucking, you know, Steve Mnuchin's tax returns from 2014.
Grab your popcorn.
Like, but earnestly is like, so get your popcorn ready.
It's like, no, you're you're the wonkiest fucking person alive.
Like, literally, you are a wonk.
Like, you love this shit.
Oh, and you're the only person who's interested in this,
plus, like, whatever other, like, scholarly people.
Also, I think she truly finds funny
is when she just explains something so well.
And, like, when she gets, like,
the happiest she's ever been,
the most she laughs,
is right when she gives the final words
to this whole, like,
like, every day,
every day of her bed,
like, she's just like,
and that is why these tax returns matter. And you're like like like she's just like and that is why
these tax returns matter
and you're like
and she's just so
yeah she laughs hysterically
at a good point
and then she'll be like
so happy like
happy loves the daily show
she'll stick the landing
and she'll be like
she'll stick the landing
and she'll be like
I know
like that's
that's Rachel
and you're like
you just talked about
the devastating
the ending of democracy
but here you are
just
I figured it out I know I I I love it for it. You just talked about the ending of democracy, but here you are just, I figured it out.
I know.
I love it, though.
That's what I was when I was in high school.
Yeah, same.
I was like that kid in my own UN, except I sucked at it.
She does have valedictorian energy.
The day after, Rhodes Scholar energy,
the day after the election in 2016,
she gave the perfect sort of firesideide chatty, like opening a block.
And, and it was like exactly what I needed to hear.
And most other Americans too.
Okay.
Solomon, it's time.
Okay.
I have a troll bowl.
Okay.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
So Solomon, Solomon, you've told us that you would like to do a troll bowl.
I've always wanted to do one.
Yes.
I have one for you.
Matt has a topic.
Solomon Giorgio.
Your I don't think so honey topic
is pride
and your time starts now
I don't think so honey
pride okay first of all corporate
sponsors yeah we get it every gay
person needs to be represented by your
fucking brand also
why do I have to show up to the busiest part of the
fucking town I should be at a rooftop getting highiest part of the fucking town? I should be at our
rooftop getting high on molly in the
fucking morning.
Also, the morning. Why are
you happening in the fucking morning?
Stonewall happened at
fucking night. Why are we up in the goddamn
fucking morning?
Also,
I don't think so, Honey Pryde. Are you
kidding me with the floats
what are these they're not even shapes i expected that all these queer people could put together a
decent float but all i get is like 15 seconds i get forceps and a bunch of dancing go-go boys
oh where's the flare where's the fireworks where's artistry? Where's the fucking drag of it all? Yeah. Five seconds.
And I don't think that's a bad idea for me.
And that's one minute.
Honestly, you're right.
Absolutely.
There's absolutely no shapes.
There's no shapes.
There's no silhouettes.
Those floats are so fucking obnoxious.
I guess.
Well, the only like.
I was on a float.
Were you?
The only.
The other two.
Big ones.
Yes.
The only big ones are the corporate ones.
Like the only ones that are really embellished and like gorgeous and you're like, wow, so much care and craftsmanship was put into this are the corporate ones like the only ones that are really embellished and like gorgeous and you're like wow so much care
and craftsmanship was put into this
are the corporate ones there should be a giant
Judy Garland float yes with her
head yes just a
massive just Liza Minnelli
like there should be more themes to things
and that's what really I think cut all
the floats just make it a balloon parade and every balloon
is an iconic diva actually yes
of course actually you, you know,
you know what it is though?
Um,
the Nash,
the nationality floats.
So they'll have like delegates from different nations.
We'll do like cultural shows for everybody.
It's like,
it's like,
it'll be like 40 people on a grid just like doing like a dance.
Yeah.
And I'm kind of like,
okay,
yes.
Like,
that's what I want.
Okay.
Yeah. Okay. okay yes i'm like
okay yes like mexico last year like had an incredible fucking thing yeah and like god it's
i mean yeah i find the cultural ones to be like so you are you are like narrating the parade i'm
at the grandstand and i'm announcing the floats as they combine yes that's very fun will you shout
me out when the other two i will shout you out when the other two float by? I will shout you out when the other two float by.
I don't go on until like 3 p.m.
So not in the morning
but in the afternoon.
So the more respectable hour
but the more respectable.
But the tail end,
it's chill,
it's mellow.
You'll get to sleep in
after the big party
we're going to on Saturday.
I know.
Wow.
I need to sleep in tonight.
I don't think I'm going
to go out tonight.
I am.
That's respectable.
Where are you going to go?
Horse meat?
Horse meat.
What's horse meat?
I don't have tickets.
I got an extra ticket. Okay, well have fun. I'm not even cool. No, you meat. What's horse meat? I don't have tickets. I got an extra ticket.
Okay, well have fun.
I'm not even cool.
No, you are.
You don't have horse meat.
I'm an old bitch.
No, no, no.
I didn't say I had extra tickets.
I said someone gave me.
I didn't have tickets.
That's great.
Perfect.
But anyway.
Wow.
Everyone's just cool.
Look, I get it.
I'm an elder.
You're on three hours of sleep.
Maybe you should take tonight off.
I might take tonight off.
I'm an aging queen.
Come to this thing tomorrow.
We'll give you the info.
Okay.
I thought you were leaving town today. Yeah, we thought you
were leaving. No, I'm just
busy next week. Okay, bitch.
Okay, you don't have to be such a bitch. Did you not hear all
my credits? You know what, Solomon?
You don't have to be such a white bitch.
I would like to give
a quick RIP to Matt.
He's the one who said it.
He's the one who said it. The both of you combined, if I ever
be called white again,
if any of your fans show up on my feeds,
call me a bitch all you like,
but you call me white, you die tonight.
You call me white, you die tonight.
It's actually rule of culture number 93.
You call me white, you die tonight.
Solomon's tour, Diva, starts on July 5th in Washington, D.C., our nation's capital, honey.
If that's not topical for you, shove it up your ass.
And future home to Marianne Williamson herself.
President Marianne Williamson.
And if you don't like that, go ahead, you're so on.
You're so on.
We finish every episode with a song.
And actually, before we do, I forgot to tell you I'm mad at you.
Me? Because you don't think this is the song of the summer.
Me?
What song? Come on, go.
Two reasons
just like that.
My answer takes me back.
Thought it was done, but
I guess it's never really over.
Just because it's over doesn't mean it's really over.
And if I think of it
Maybe you'll become
Another again
And I have to get over you
All over again
Just because it's over
Doesn't mean it's really over
No, shut it down, shut it down,
Shut it down, shut it down,
Shut it down, shut it down,
Maybe you'll become
Another again
And I have to get over you
All over again
The music video is fine.
It's really good
And it's actually appropriating
White woman culture
Instead of all the other
Racial culture
That's usually appropriated
So this is a big step forward For Katie, a.k.a. the Marianne Williamson of pop.
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