Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "Ambition" (w/ Reese Witherspoon)

Episode Date: September 17, 2025

It's a moment in Las Cultch history as Reese Witherspoon makes her debut! The Morning Show is back! Reese chats with Matt & Bowen about studying Goldie Hawn in Private Benjamin for Legally Blonde, creating Tracy Flick and Election in retrospect, owning your ambition, producing Gone Girl and Wild, exploring the inner workings of female friendships on Big Little Lies and the importance of a good set-piece. Also, The Morning Show forecasting Blue Origin, how Bradley Jackson got her name, aura ring culture, producing with Hello Sunshine, Jon Bon Jovi's thigh high red leather boots, Gwen Stefani's "Just A Girl", joy as revenge in The First Wives Club and Matt, Bow and Reese's Blockbuster strategy. All this, managing anxiety alongside an ambitious personality, the "Oscar Curse", Reese's Nicole Kidman impression and Big Little Lies season 3. The Morning Show is streaming NOW on Apple TV+!!! Go!!!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Oh, I see. Wow. Bowen, look over there. Wow, is that culture, yes. Oh, goodness. Wow. Las cultureistas. Ding-dong, Las Culturistas calling.

I don't know that I've been more excited. And this is the thing, we're already getting along. I'd say gangbusters with our guest. Love. I can't believe she's here either. It's like staring at the sun. I can't. It's hello sunshine.

I can't look at the guest. I want to say hello sunshine is their frontrunner for title of that, but we can't do that. No, no. It's going to find it. Do you remember yesterday when we were talking about iconic line reads of our guest? Yes, but that's every day. On most days. So on the red carpet at the Culture Awards,

someone asked us, like, what's an iconic line from cinema history that, like, jumps out right now? Who is it? Was it Mark Malkin that asked that? No, it was Vulture. It was Vulture. And I go, what?

Like, it's hard? But... And yesterday, I said to you, this is what pings and pongs in my brain. Anytime I open mail. Yeah. Anytime I open mail. This is what...

You ready? This is it. Bruiser, what's this? Bruiser, what's this? Browser, what's this? But anytime I open an envelope, I'm telling you, the reason I bring it up is because I actually know what it is. Okay.

This was maybe the culture that made me say culture was for me, which is a big statement on this podcast, that being the central question. Pleasantville. Oh, here we go. Our guest's first scene, she's on the phone talking to her friend, and she's talking about what outfit she's going to wear for a date. And she's discussing wearing one particular thing. And she goes, it's not slutty. And she looks in the mirror and she goes It's fun

And I saw myself in it You just channeled You just channeled the muse I channeled constantly I'm always channeling our guest constantly It's true Our favorite show is back My favorite show is back

Thank the Lord We got the screeners We watched episode one And then Matt Rodder steps away And goes how many did they send I just ask off hand I said the whole season I've never seen you happier

I think I did a backflip I think I did a Tom Daley off a surfboard Gymnastically moved the furniture in the hotel room that we were staying now. That is a thing I do when I get nervous. I move furniture. I was interior designing the hotel. The hotel.

Morning Show Season 4 is now out. Now that this episode is out, September 17th, the same day as the new incredible season of the morning show. It's giving everything you've wanted it to give. And I have so many questions for our guests about the rip from the headline's nature of it because they can't possibly have guessed one thing that happened in season three

that then happened in life. But suffice it to say that our guest today is an Oscar-winning actress and Emmy-winning producer, a bona fide pop culture icon on the list of the iconic 400 twice as herself and as a character. Yes.

Which, that doesn't really happen. No. This is such a great moment in Lost Culture History's Reve. because our guest is Rees Swirspoon! Oh my God! We love you. Flushing.

That was so nice. I'm so excited to be here. We're so happy to be here. Oh, wait, no, this is, so this was the moment where the wheels started turning about this moment happening. Yes. Was it two Emmys ago or one Emmy ago? I think. That I, like, beeline for you at an award show.

And I was like, Bowen, when am I on your podcast? Like, how did you even do it without me? Yeah. Exactly. So rude. The way you approached me. Do you remember what your initial line was?

Uh-uh. It was the most Reese thing. And I immediately texted this one afterward. I couldn't believe it. We go in for a hug. You whisper in my ear. Well, hello, Miss Coulterista. I died.

Because that was too much. That was the moment I knew the podcast I got out of hand. That's when we fell in love. That's when we fell in love. He did. I think you FaceTime me. You were like, you're like, the phone is shaking. I'm like, who is it?

I was like, don't tell me it was really. No, like I, it was like you had a party and you didn't invite me. You're so right. It was so rude. You're so sorry. No, I'm so happy. It only took like 14 publicists later and we're here. I know.

Two short years. Two short years later. And 1,800 emails. That does, it really does feel like. They really slow the wheels of progress. Well, how are these are people. Yeah, I know. Because you did, because the biggest gag was you were like, DM me.

And I was like, I guess you could just DM her. You can. Well, you can't eat, but you can. Not everyone. Not everyone. Yeah. But then you were with Deakin at that mama show. At that MoMA event.

Yes. I met Deacon and he was so sweet. My son is the cutest. I told him I was coming on your podcast. He goes, Mom. Come on. That's going to be so fun. He goes, tell me what the building looks like and what the studio looks like.

Really? Is he into buildings and studios? He's into those in the past cultures. And he loves the way that you set, I said they're tastemakers. Of course you love them. Oh, my God. Gosh, that is too. Very sweet.

Well, just to talk about that. I will say, you know, in thinking about, like, this episode with you, I really can go back to one of them, I think, first really formative memories I have of going to the movies with my mom and my sister. We sat down. I remember where we sat in the theater. It was like on Patchhog, like on Long Island. And we went to go see Legally Blonde. And it was one of those things where I'm sure you have this. Like, you see the movie once and you know every line.

Like, it's just one of those things. Those kind of movies just are sticky. Yeah. Yeah. Did you, you're playing Elwoods. Like, you're doing this character. You're on set. You know that everyone there is great.

But are you thinking, like, what are you thinking doing it? Like, is this? Okay, well, let me get my time machine because it was 25 years ago. And that also has to be kind of surreal. It was so surreal. Well, I was a new mom. I had a little baby. My daughter.

on set and I just remember I took comedy really seriously like it was not a joke I had studied Goldie Hawn like my life depended on it for that role and I studied her in Private Benjamin and then I studied comedy

like you would try and cure a rare disease it was so important to me I watched SNL religiously so for me creating a character Like, I had just done it the year before with, maybe two years before with Tracy Flick. It was really important to me that she had a very particular way she talked, a very particular way she walked. My early career was a lot about building characters that didn't have a lot of self-awareness.

They just were like a bullet through the world, you know, determined to make their mark and determined to reach that goal. Yeah. So that's what it was like. And we had our, I think, 20th year reunion of Legally Blonde and all the lovely cast members where they were, and we all got on a Zoom from Jennifer Coolidge, Luke Wilson, and Selma Blair, and they were all like, it was like kind of fun. But it's hard to remember because it was like a job at the time.

I was really serious. Like, I was a very, very, very serious young person. You have to be. I mean, it all translates to the final project. But like, this is why, like, people come to SNL, as you know, and, like, you expect it to be, like, riffing. And, like, everyone's just improvising and just the chemistry is off the charts.

We're there to, like, turn the page and read the script and, like, hit our marks. It's technical. And also, in your brain, aren't you thinking, I got to think of something that no one else is thinking of? Totally. So my thing was always, how can I be contrary? How can I play this, how no one else would play this? Totally. Because that's what I'm here to be, original, not be basic.

Mm-hmm. And there were a hundred ways to play L. Woods that I was like, seen it, done it, not doing that. Yes. Of course. So if you thought she was going to be bitchy or spoiled rotten, no, she had a really soft sense. Yeah, very sweet. If you thought she was going to be dumb or say the wrong thing, she was going to say it laser sharp and really crisp words and say it with daggers. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So I was always trying to startle people with the switch. Right. Yeah. But it's interesting that you bring up Tracy, in the context of Tracy and L and that early stuff, like I would say there's a common thread there where it's like underestimation. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And like, what is, what is that relationship to ambition?

Mm-hmm. Like, does one breed the other? Do you need the other thing for it to happen? Yeah. Yeah. Well, I think ambition threads through all my characters because I don't know. I just wasn't here to do average. And I feel like a lot of people can relate to that.

I wanted to be, it's not like I wanted to be the best, but I wanted to be original. I want to be wholly original in this world. I want to make them laugh. harder. I wanted them to cry. I wanted them think they understood the smartest girl in school. She was actually a little broken inside. It's beautiful, you know? I actually modeled Tracy on a girl I went to high school with. And I didn't know a lot about her personal life. But it was really important to me as Alexander Payne and I were building a character. I was like, she needs to have a moment with her mother where you realize her mom's a single mom and she curls her hair every day. And

she's living out her mother's broken dreams. Right. And there's one scene. But it, it, it It cracks the whole thing for you. You're like, I can't make fun of this person. Sure. You're right. But you and Alex built that together, like that scene. Yes. Yes.

He, yeah, I mean, he's incredible about understanding the day-to-day lives, the satire of living in Middle America, but also having big dreams. But maybe your dreams are just to go to Northwestern. Right. You know, or like run for city council. Mm-hmm. Yeah. It was so fun.

I have read the sequel. You have. Yes. So because I'm a huge election fan. In fact, we ran into Matthew Broderick actually at SNL 50. Yes. And we ended up seeing him twice. And both times I said, I just watched election.

He was like, you told me. I was like, it's true. I did. Because I frequently returned to it and I watched it again after I read the novel. Is that in play right now? Is that something that's like, where is that on the list in terms of? Well, you don't want to say too much. But there is a follow-up novel.

Yes. We're thinking about making a movie. Because it goes in a really interesting direction, I think, for people that care about that character. And it ends dark. And it's, it's, it's, I'm really interested to see how it keeps going. Because it's also a comment on the fact that when you're someone that's super ambitious, one of the things that can happen

is you don't meet that ambition and you then that is a really sad thing and I think one of the toughest... And the smallest thing can derail you. Yes. And she gets derailed by something. Yes.

And but you can't stop the internal monster drive. No, she couldn't help. She can't help herself. And so basically one of the things I think is the most heartbreaking about the first film. I'm already talking about it as if it's too. I guess I'm manifesting it. But in election, which is the sudden, after she's lost, the cut to just how heartbroken and devastated that she is.

And I think that's when you realize, like, how much work you've done. And it's interesting to look back that she's sort of an antagonist of the movie because she's antagonizing Matthew Broderick. But when you look at it now, when you think back and you look at how heartbroken she was and what she went through going up to that, it feels really right for revisiting. I think so, too. Yeah. There was a whole, the New York Times, I think it was A.O. Scott or something about 10 years ago, went back and watched it again and said, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. This is like a high school girl, yeah, groomed and manipulated by her science teacher. That's not what I remember that movie being.

And then his peer got mad at her. Yeah. Right. Yeah. And Matthew Broderick's character, Mr. McAllister, was actually complicit. Yeah. What are you? That's friend.

He's kind of groomed, a teenager. Yeah, sort of. And he was mad at her and just decided to destroy her. And then she got a smoothie thrown at her at the end. That's the most bad. God damn it. Hate DC. Hey, DC.

That first shot of Tracy, they're shooting up her hand, is like iconic cinema. It's last thing. It's lasting. That's a good shot. Do you know what I mean? No, I don't know what shot you're talking about. Like when you first see, when she like shoots up her like, oh, which he raises your hand in class. They freeze on your face being like a little distorted.

Yeah. It's like, it's meant to humiliate this child. And do you know what the question is? Who knows the difference between ethics and morals? Love it. Wow. The irony. I love it.

The irony. No, it's an amazing script. It is. It is. And you're a part of so many of those. My name is Ed. Everyone say, hello, Ed. Hello, Ed.

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So it's like there's Pleasantville, which I think is so many people's favorite movie. It's one of mine. And there's obviously Legally Blonde. There's cruel intentions. So I would imagine that like as you're going forward in your career, Does your team, like, at that point, are they just like, let's just keep you busy? Or are you, when you look back at that point, are you, were you always someone who was like trying to pick and choose what the next move was?

It was always very strategic. And it was, I was, that was it. It was just her and I. And then what was the planning? Like, what was the initial conversation behind, let's do this hello sunshine thing? Let's actually make the taste. Okay, that was a different iteration of my life. So Evelyn and I, that was my early career.

And then I decided to kind of go my own way when I was 34. And I, the business had shifted a lot. So I don't want to get into the nitty grade, but the DVD business left. Right. And so all the development of films about women were kind of the mid-range budget. And that's where it just went away. Yeah. They weren't developing things for women.

So I thought, okay, if I don't take this moment to start developing for myself and for my friends, right. Incredible. Shame on me. first of all, for being so successful and then not doing something about the lack of storytelling for women. So it was a moment where I had to meet the moment and I was really scared. Yeah. Because also truthfully, that ambition thing is not always appealing to everybody.

Right. Of course not. Well, that's why a lot of, I think, the characters are people blanch at them at first. They do. And then they learn to love them because they learn to understand them. But you're right. It is... Well, it's like, for all our ambitious listeners out there, sometimes you rub people the wrong way.

Yeah. And people know that. Every ambitious friend of yours knows it's irritating to feel that like, come on, let's do more. Let's do this. And we can do it. And let's throw the homecoming all together. And then let's do the class project.

I'll take over everything. It's an annoying character trait. But then what's the way out? Like, we're not that there's a way out. For me, and it was learning to not be embarrassed of it. making peace with it and going, I know I work harder is just how I'm made up

and it's not my fault. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And how can I use that to harness more people and rope them into things that I think will be beneficial for them instead of just serving my own agenda which was making my own career.

I thought when Hell of Sunshine began I was like, oh my God, this is my opportunity to widen the net, bring people into a family of storytellers. And that's when my whole life changed. Yeah. I mean, truly, I think that there was, like, it did feel like there was this, like, incredible

second phase for you, which started with producing Gone Girl and then being in Wild. And I've always wanted to ask you about Gone Girl, because that was the, was that the first big title that you had produced? Yeah, that was the first book I ever optioned as a producer. What a jackpot that is. It was crazy. We read it in Galley's. We read Wild. I read Wild and Gone Girl in Galley's.

my producing partner was Bruno Papandrea, and we were both like, these books are amazing. Yeah. I had no idea that we were going to be, within six months, they were number one. Sitting next to each other

on the New York Times for months and months and months. And I was like, oh, shit, I can't mess this up. No. I think that was the perfect one to punch for you, for one to not be a vanity project, and for one to be a vehicle for you. Does that make sense?

Yeah, I hear you. Because that is what I think you innovated and established, John. And it's like, I'm going to be a woman, actor, actress, whatever. And I'm going to start my own production company, and it will be holistic in that way. I think it could have gone, it might not have been sticky if we're going to use that word. Like, it just not, it would not have stuck if it had been one thing. I agree.

And they were both substantive, right? They were about what we perceive women as, how they subvert that. Gone Girl is the ultimate, like, mind turning. So, so yummy. And Fincher just. killed it. And Lostman Pike is so diabolical. And Ben Affleck is sort of the

the rub on the other side of it. A receding cast, too. Carrie Coon. I mean. Carrie. Yeah, no, don't forget. And also our friend Casey Wilson. Like so good. That was one of those Neil, Patrick Harris. Oh, again, against type.

Playing with a lot of against type stuff. And I did want to ask you about that particular role though. Because I had read, I think a lot of people that, you know, follow this stuff that you had been attached to do Gone Girl and then after a conversation with David, you guys decided that maybe the audience would have had a gauge on you already? Or like, what was that conversation? How did you feel about it at the time?

Well, yes, I had optioned it to star in it. And I was supposed to star in it. There will be a whole chapter of a book one day about Gone Girl because that started my producing career. But it also told me, hey, nobody's happy for you to have this producing career. nobody wants you here and David sat me down and this is not on David

but David's like you're totally wrong for this part and I'm not putting you in it so that was at first how to and you're probably like hold on aside well because I had all these conversations

with the writer Gillian Flynn and she was like no I'd really like you to do it but he was like you're wrong and that was first of all an ego check for me and was like no you're not right for everything

and he was right he was totally right But why was he right? How did he rationalize that to you? He didn't have to. He's David Fincher. He's like, oh, yeah, okay. He literally says that this, he's like, you're wrong for this part and I'm not putting

you in it. But I'm asking, like, was he said, like, did you get an inkling of like, oh, because people will project onto me all of their preconceived notions about me as an actor? I think that's probably for him, yes. I brought an audience with me. Sure. That likes me. For me.

Yes. I remember, I remember thinking, because we've talked about this topic on the show. Sinister, diabolical. Sure, sure. Isn't that the thing that would have been the surprise, though? Like, not to go back in history and fight with David Fincher in my own head

because the movie is perfect and so good. No, and Rosman is perfect. She's great. And I mean, it also started a, really started a whole other type of career for her too, which is like a testament to the producing of that movie. Yeah, and I think it's important. Producing also means get out of the way

when you're so listed. You know, get out of the way. Do your job to promote, continue to pull, people together, continue to build creative groups so that the ultimate result is the best work that it could possibly be. So that was a lesson to me, but behind the scenes, a lot of stuff happened. That was not cool in terms of like my credits and da-da-da-da, which is so boring. But it took me until Big Little Lies.

So Big Little Lies was like a year later and Nicole and I produced that together until people started taking me seriously as a producer because honestly could not get traction even as a producer, even with those hits. With those two big hits. Yeah. It was really hard. That's wild. No pun intended.

But especially because I feel like wild in particular, the whole story, the whole narrative was like this was a film that she produced alongside Gone Girl. But that performance, that performance is just like, it is a 360 and it was so different from what you had done. I would imagine that felt incredibly vulnerable. and alongside the statement of I'm producing this. Yeah. Was that the moment, if you look back, that are one of the moments where you felt like this is a watershed thing? Like that had to be a high anxiety moment. Yeah.

Oh, my God. So much anxiety. But doing wild was a reset for my whole life, my whole career, which was great for me. I had to work physically. I couldn't talk. You know, my superpower is talking really fast. It was mostly backpack. Yeah, it was a lot.

It was all contemplating the earth. And it's hard. But the realism of that movie is kind of the sort of corollary to like everything you had done up to that point. Also, you let out one of the great screams. Yeah, the foot. Oh, that's God. I'll never forget the foot. And I threw my shoe.

Yes. Yeah, both shoes. That was. One of the best opening scenes in movies. So good. Did you end up watching it on the plane last night? Okay. Oh.

I'm so glad you did. You're the best. It's a lot of hardship to watch your movies. Yeah, I twist my arm. I got to watch Reese with her food. That's intense, though. Yeah, that is an intense. It's an intense one.

And, of course, there's that, oh, God, the heartbreaking scene where you discover that your mother has passed and that you weren't there. And that great Laura Dernberg. Can we just talk about Laura Dern? That actually was kind of where I was going. So was that to start, were you friends with Laura before that? No, we met on that movie. Great.

So you met on that movie. movie, because it does kind of feel like... And she was doing her death scene. Oh, was that first one? Day one. She's dad. I walk in. I'm like, she was like, I'm going through divorce.

I was like, just been through one. Let's get into it. Let's go. So then there begins that friendship. And it does feel like you guys are like sisters. Oh my gosh. We are so connected. And we laugh all morning, all night.

I just FaceTime her this morning. I was like, I'm going on Los Calteristas. Oh, my God. She's like, what's that? No. I just met her actually on promorail. So it was like, it was a two second thing, but I was just like, I didn't get time with her. But I was like, God, she really, she's similar to you.

It's like she will always have that other place in your mind where it's like, I once saw you on a screen and you changed my life. And here you are walking around and really producing the show that I would. the Pomeroyal show, like really there on her day off, there in the nuts and bolts. And it's really amazing to see because you guys bring perspective. Yeah. That is not usually there. She's just so encyclopedic about her understanding of film,

television, performance, how movies come together. She's a savant. Yeah. And she's also lovely and kind and humble. Yeah. But she can eviscerate you in a scene and you're just like, Oh, this is so good. Some of my favorite stuff I've ever done my whole life

was scenes between Madeline and Renata on Big Little Eyes. I'll never. I just be done. You guys sitting at the fire pit and letting it rip at each other. She's like, you better not cancel my daughter's birthday. And I was like, I'm going to Disney on ice instead. To God, it's an Avenue Q being like these tent pole plot points. Totally.

In that show. I mean, I will also say like... The puppets. Yeah, the puppets. That show. Yes. Perfection. No, it really.

And talk about again, like yet again. Like, just watching everything about it. I mean, like, and like just the shots of the crashing waves, et cetera. White Lotus, we see you. We know where you got that from. We know where you got that. But that's... Listen.

That you have to feel like that probably opened so much up in TV. then. It was such, that was a watershed, I think. Yeah, again. Not just for you, but for television. Yeah, but I think because a group of that esteemed level actresses doing a TV show was unheard of. Also, just like Nicole, myself and Laura and Zoe Kravitz and Shailie Wendley, like, all in our friendship. You heard more about our friendships than you heard about our work or what's going on with our kids. Like, who cares? We're best friends. It was so angry at each other. It felt through the screen.

But it was, you know, it was just the inner workings of female relationships. And I think the really beautiful thing about Big Little Lies is it's actually an entire show about domestic violence. Yeah. And it had this, again, this emotional resonance where you think it's this frothy thing, right? But it's actually something very, very real that happens to one in three women. Yes. And so you could laugh about it, right? It's funny.

I tend to migrate as like little pets. Yeah, like, yeah, yes, yes. And scenes with me and Laura, amazing. Yeah. We're in a totally different show than Nicole Kippman. Right. And Alexander Scargard. Absolutely.

And it all comes together at the very end. You're like, holy shit. Well, I think one of the really powerful things was the dichotomy of like, there are these women arguing about this play and literally blocks over. There's this thing happening. And so, yes, there are two different shows. To our best friend who doesn't tell us. But it's in one reality.

and it is also the reality, which is that these things are happening and the shock with which you guys receive that information, but the immediate way you know to protect an act, I think was so powerful. And certainly all my female friends, all our female friends that we talked to were just like so empowered and emboldened by the fact

like we will have each other's backs. And that that's what that show was about. And we'll also have joy. And we'll also have laughter. And we'll also be petty and then we'll make up for it. And we'll still get into it afterwards. And we're going to have this great life together. But...

Truly. Yeah. My name is Ed. Everyone say, hello, Ed. Hello, Ed. I'm from a very rural background myself. My dad is a farmer. And my mom is a cousin.

So, like, it's not... What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality nine years ago. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear. On 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man had killed his family.

And then he came to my house. So what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? A new podcast called Wisecrack, where stand-up comedy and murder takes a stage. Available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is a tape recorded statement. The person being interviewed is Krista Gail and Pike. This is in regards to the death of a Colleen slimmer.

She started going off on me, and I hit her. I just hit her and hit her and hit her and hit her. On a cold January day in 1995, 18-year-old Krista Pike killed 19-year-old Colleen Slemmer in the woods of Knoxville, Tennessee. Since her conviction, Krista has been sitting on death row. The state has asked for an execution date for Krista. We let people languish in prison for decades, raising questions about who we consider fundamentally unrestorable. How does someone prove that they deserve to live? We are starting the recording now.

Please state your first and last name. Krista Pike. Listen to Unrestorable Season 2, Proof of Life, on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, my name is Enya Yumanzoor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom.

If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes we're not the podcast for you but if you have unmedicated ADHD oh my god perfect and want to hear people with mental illness psychobabble yes yes then emergency intercoms the podcast for you open your free iHeart radio app search emergency intercom and listen now do you want to hear the secrets of serial killers psychopaths pedophiles robbers they are sitting there waiting for the vulnerable thing they're waiting for the unprotected I'm Dr. Leslie, forensic psychologist. I advocate for safety and awareness of predators while wearing pink.

When you were described to me as a forensic psychologist, I was like snooze. We ended up talking for hours and I was like, this girl is my best friend. This is a podcast where I cut through the noise with sarcasm, satire, and hard truths. I'm not going to fake it and force it for me. But would you force an orgasm? Because that's like a different layer. The car accident you didn't want to see but couldn't turn away from. In this episode, I discuss personal safety and self-defense, tools, instincts, and strategies to protect yourself and your loved ones in everyday life and high-risk situations.

Listen to Intentionally Disturbing on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I feel like that combination of the frothiness with the weight of something is, to transition into the morning show is the thing that we love about morning show. We've made a lot of light about like the, the campiness of it, obviously. We love it. But especially watching this season,

I go, you need the campiness. I think you do. You need Bradley Jackson going to space. I know. In order to talk about these things that even TV now doesn't want to tackle, like the pandemic, like the fucking insurrection, like all of these really

fucked up things about the world. You know, like, I think was that, like, the vision for the show the whole time? Because it also mimics the dichotomy between morning news shows, which we've had experience on now. Where it's like, okay, we're going to talk about a war going on in some place at any given time. And after this, how do you fold a handkerchief? We're going to find out. The best way to use a plunger. It's like.

It's so good. That's the dichotomy. Yeah. But that's life now. So I think you're right. And you call it campy and soapy. But for me, it's like, where's the human experience? Yes.

Right. So if you're talking about really earnest subject matter, you have to lighten it up. It's 100%. You have to be having, like, the news producer and the on-air athlete talking about, like, why were you late at work today? Right. You know, that's... Loved that scene, by the way, between, oh, my God. Between Karen Pittman and Nicole Bhari.

Karen is, I mean, like, she's so special. I know. Like, we are Karen Pittman superstance, and she's also one of the most stunning individuals on planet Earth. I know. And like Helen of Troy, who said. By the way, y'all, we both grew up in Nashville. Really?

Throw a rock. She went to the one girl's school. Stop. I went to the other girl's school. And same age, exact same age, coming up together. And we finally met on the first season of morning shows. So we're natural girls. Oh, I love that.

It's just great. I so celebrate all her wins. And she was on and just like that, too. and she's just killing it. She definitely is. I feel like the thing, too, about the morning show that, like, I was referencing earlier was when you did go to space

and then a matter of 10, 11 months later, we see the blue origin. Yes. What did that feel like? They're just forecasters, these writers. It's Simpsons level. They predicted. It's odd.

Yeah. It's odd. Because at the end of season one, in the very last scene Alex Levy has a meltdown on camera and she's like, square this bullshit. And I'm talking about, right before she says it, I'm like, and there's a mysterious illness

on a cruise ship off the coast of China. Yeah. And then literally within six months, it was COVID. That episode aired before COVID. I know. Crazy. I don't know. There's some weird woo stuff happening on the show.

That's why I'm like, so they set us the whole season of the new season and we freaked. But now I'm like, oh, Gosh, what's it going to pretend at the end of the season that's going to befall us? I don't know. Well, I do know, actually. I do know.

But I just love, I love the tone of the show. Like, it's just, it's so fun. It's so enriching. Every character is, like, rich now in the fourth season. And even the new entrances, like, Marion Cotillard is just so perfect in this. And when I heard that she was cast, I'm like, what is that going to feel like? And she comes in and she just brings.

all her marionness to it, and it does feel, she feels impenetrable and untouchable and very, you know, imperious. Her family owns the entire network now, along with a lot of other assets and some are sort of maybe a little dubious, unsavory, that it comes around, yeah, that she's sort of the queen of this empire's family empire and that they're doing some shady stuff. Yeah. And she's doing shady stuff all over the, don't get me started about episode eight. Episode eight.

Maybe it's nine. Maybe it's nine. See, a penultimate episode. Just wait. That's where the real shit goes down. You'll be mad. Selene. It's Celine.

It's Celine. And I said that her name was Celine. I was like, that's just perfect. Of course it is. Did you name Bradley Jackson? Who named Bradley Jackson? No, our original writer, Carrie Aaron wrote. Bradley Jackson.

We just love that name. It feels very newscastery. Totally. But newscaster out of like a rural, like, network who is then spotlit on national television goes back. It's like it works both ways. Yeah. That's true. And ambitious.

And ambitious. Do we sense a threat? We clearly do. Are you a news junkie or do you feel, have you always been? Are you now? No, but I like to read very specific things about technology. I'm really interested in technology. Biomedical innovation

is really interesting to me. and marketing is really interesting to me. Like, how do you consider, like figuring out what consumers like, I love it. Yeah. And why. And why? Right. Culture.

Culture. How does it move markets? Like, Taylor Swift moving markets in cities when her production comes there and economies grow, let's talk about that. Oh, yeah. That's interesting to me. Why do people like certain people and really can't stand to others? Yeah, yeah.

Is it better for people to, for you to be controversial or no one cares about you? Is the Q rating a real thing? Yeah. It is. Is the what rate? The Q rating. Q rating. Like when they run diagnostic on you guys.

I'd be scared. Run the Q rating. No, on the Q rating on us. Or maybe do. Maybe do. Wait. You might want it. Okay.

You might want that data. No, his is 150. No way. Do you guys like data? Do you like? I do love that. But the right, I mean, there are some little flames that I don't want to touch, you know what I mean?

I find it really fascinating. Like, I don't want an aura ring. Like, who am I going to do with that crap? So you're not woo-woo. Let's talk. What's it giving today? My resiliency score is down to adequate because we were on a red eye. My resiliency score.

Where's your grit? My grit. I got to get my grit score up. I mean, my sleep score, listen, she tracks the naps with, Eerie precision. But what are you doing with this information? Like, does it make you feel better? How would you become more resilient?

How I, well, it gives me knowledge that I've trended downward, right? So I really got to, okay, let me be more intentional about my sleep. Let me be more intentional about my, like, working out in the morning. Let me be more intentional about time to read, which I want to ask you about. Like, it does give some shape to the outlook of the day. Okay. It gives you a readiness score based on your sleep, based on your activity the day before. Okay, but if something woke you up and then.

the morning and said, you're so tired. You look really tired. Are you tired? I didn't sleep. God, why? Are you like tired? Well, Chatsy-B-T is going to start doing that. I have data about it.

How tired you are? 100 tired. And how are you going to feel for the rest of today? Yeah, probably not good. I am so susceptible, it will tell me how to feel. Well, I'll be like, oh, totally. I didn't sleep. I don't have a crown.

I think. No, they give you a crown on the score if you do it. I don't even know that. That is just like. Human behavior 101. They're trying to like... You know, like, engineer it. And you're letting them.

But the tone is actually quite gentle. Like, should I read the readiness for today? It's actually quite... And then I'd like to know your saltiness. Your sassiness. There's a metric for saltiness. There should be. How much crap can you handle today?

So this is, it's like if you did like go on a bender the night before and you only got like whatever three hours of sleep, it goes, maybe think about taking it easy. It's very gentle. Okay, so it's nice. You need sobriety. You need sobriety. No, no, no. No kidding.

I wasn't reading that. It's loading it up right now. But like that's what I say. It's never been like finger waggy. Okay. You're not doing so good. While this loads up. I think it's also how you hear it.

Yeah, that's true. How you take criticism, I just window into me. Don't take it well. Well, I was going to ask you that. Oh, never. Like as someone who's like a metrics person. Getting better. Like, but also a sensitive person as a result of like what you do.

I've always been like interested in this. People that are very. producerial and people that are real, you know, you're a business person. And so, but you're also an actor. And so you maintain a lot of like openness, vulnerability, sensitivity in order to do what you do. How do you balance those two things as someone who's like out there publicly as a product in a way that we all are, but also someone who markets that product? Like how do you, like how do you walk that line and maintain a sanity? Oh, okay. Well, I got, well, that's a good question. It has different levels to it too because when I'm in work mode, it's a full different personality. And that's where

I've kind of been for a while now. The acting I have to switch on. I have to kind of tune out what's happening in the business. But I knew if I didn't tune in to the business and kind of level up, I wasn't going to make change. You may get or you may get lost. I would get lost, but I also just think not enough of, like I wasn't an executive, but I had to become an executive every past nine years. And I don't enjoy it, per se, but it's important if I want to affect change and actually create a company that has enterprise value in a market and see where the ball is going in terms of media. So I have to pay attention to all of that. Yeah. Well, even be, so outside of those things, it's like, I think with Hello Sunshine, you've like created the trend of actor starts production

company, great. But that's, but what you've always avoided, which is what's kind of, it's kind of common is that an actor starts a production company as a way to be a boom to the changing tides of showbiz. I don't think that's ever been true for you. Maybe in the beginning when you were having to prove yourself, quote unquote, but now I feel like with the pipeline of the book club, you have this way to create taste. You are a tastemaker more than we are, to be sure. So, like, what is the difference?

Like, how do you, like, changing that dial has to be a very intentional, very difficult thing? Well, I think taking some of the intense spotlight I had as a very young person. And I learned a lot about marketing through sitting about meetings, people talking about me like I was a product. And they were like, well, it plays well in Russia and Brazil, but it doesn't play well in Japan. And I was like, you're talking about me? Yeah. Why do they not? Okay, so I had to learn to depersonalize it. Yeah. Why do they not like me in Japan? Right. I don't know. And I don't No, because they haven't met me. Because they haven't met you.

No, I'm kidding. That is probably what you said. Well, I should go. Yeah. Well, I'll be going to go. I'll do it meet me. Book the price. Let's go on the vacay.

No, let me emphasize. But, no, I started to learn about how audiences receive information, what things trend this way and that way. So as I started thinking about a book club as a business enterprise, right? What were the advantages, first of all, being first to market on having read something ahead of time and then going to those authors and saying first you did the hard work you broke the back of the story these characters are indelible can I help you promote it with this spotlight that I have that's all on me but can I shine a little bit on you and help you out with some marketing stuff online and then also if you feel inclined to give me the first right of the option let me know

but there was never like you have to give me an option on your book so I wanted to clarify that Because that was a lot of people say, oh, she got the first right of refusal. I didn't. But people were so appreciative of the marketing. And then I also said, if you give me the rights, I'm not going to stick it in development hell. No. I'm going to work my ass off on it for two years. And if I can't get it made, I'm going to give it back to you.

And we had a great success rate from Little Fires Everywhere to, to, you know, big little lies, to morning show, to last thing you ever told me. and now we have another new one coming out with Anya Taylor Joy called Lucky. And it's been great. Where the Crona's thing. Yes. Is it that you're looking at projects and you think, oh, this is something

I really want to do with Carrie. This would be fun to do with her. Yes. We always joke. This podcast started out as a way for us to have a play date once a week. And you're looking at you, you see these things and you're like,

this is my play date with Carrie Washington. For real. Yes. And I get to play with my favorite people. And, you know, what a gift. Yeah, totally. And also empower them. We all get to make something together and have a blast when we're doing it.

Yeah. So it isn't, I don't mean to diminish it and say it's easy because it's really hard work in long hours. And, but, geez, it's like reaping the rewards of 30 years of hard work. Yeah, totally. I get to love my job. I love it. You can tell. It's clear.

It's so clear. We love that you do your job. I'm just such a nerd. I read constantly. Well, I was going to ask, between reading about technology and biomedical stuff? That's like an hour a day.

I'll read that like while I drink coffee. Some total of the day, how much of it is reading? Because this is what I want to kind of engineer in my own life. I'm like, I got to fucking read books instead of scrolling on this. I know.

I do think people are kind of getting off the phone and saying like touch grass, read a book, hold paper. I read an hour at night. I read an hour in the morning and an hour at night. And then I'm on a plane. the whole plane ride.

Yeah. So I can get through a lot on planes. And how much are, can you ever stop yourself and just be like, Reese, I'm just going to enjoy this book and stop thinking about the fact that I'm going to like. Yeah, right. You know what I mean? Like, who should play this female lead? Yeah, exactly.

Oh, and you know who'd be amazing in this, Bradley Cooper. Yes. As a female lead, definitely. No. Who's next phase. Kidding. No. But there's, um.

No, I think in cinematic terms. I'm always casting the movie in my mind. Nothing wrong with that. It's fun. It is so fun. Nothing wrong with that. My name is Ed. Everyone say, hello, Ed. Hello, Ed.

I'm from a very rural background myself. My dad is a farmer. And my mom is a cousin. So, like, it's not, like... What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality nine years ago. I just normally do straight stand-up,

but this is a bit different. On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear. On 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man had killed his family. And then he came to my house. So what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? A new podcast called Wisecrack, where stand-up comedy and murder takes a stage. Available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your

podcasts. This is a tape recorded statement. The person being interviewed is Krista Gail and Pike. This is in regards to the death of a Colleen slimmer. She started going off on me, and I hit her. I just hit her and hit her and hit her and hit her. On a cold January day in 1995, 18-year-old Krista Pike killed 19-year-old Colleen Slemmer in the woods of Knoxville, Tennessee. Since her conviction, Krista has been sitting on death row. The state has asked for an execution date for Krista.

We let people languish in prison for decades, raising questions about who we consider fundamentally unrestorable. How does someone prove that they deserve to live? We are starting the recording now. Please state your first and last name. Krista Pike. Listen to Unrestorable Season 2, Proof of Life, on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, my name is Enya Yumanzoor.

And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes we're not the podcast for you but if you have unmedicated ADHD oh my god perfect and want to hear people with mental illness psychobabble yes yes then emergency intercoms the podcast for you open your free iHeart radio app search emergency intercom and listen now do you want to hear the secrets of serial killers psychopaths pedophiles robbers they are sitting there waiting for the vulnerable thing they're waiting for the unprotected

I'm Dr. Leslie, forensic psychologist. I advocate for safety and awareness of predators while wearing pink. When you were described to me as a forensic psychologist, I was like snooze. We ended up talking for hours, and I was like, this girl is my best friend. This is a podcast where I cut through the noise with sarcasm, satire, and hard truths. I'm not going to fake it and force it for me. But would you force an orgasm? Because that's like a different layer.

The car accident you didn't want to see, but couldn't turn away from. In this episode, I discuss personal safety and self-defense, tools, instincts, and strategies to protect yourself and your loved ones in everyday life and high-risk situations. Listen to Intentionally Disturbing on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Speaking of the mind, let's take an odyssey into it. We're going to ask you the question that we ask everyone on our show, which is what was the culture that made you say culture was for me, at least withersprin. Well, just like so many things came into my mind when we were talking. I know, I bet.

I mean, when I thought about it, you know, when you first asked me, I was like, was it this? I mean, I remember when MTV started. That was a big deal in my childhood. And John Mon Jovi or JDJ, as I call him, came out with this music video called Living on a Prayer. Yeah, come on a little song. And he wore these thigh high red leather boots. And you would think

Resolution's not like into guys with thigh high red leather oh yes it was a moment it was a moment and I had a lot and there was a lot kind of feelings about that

and that to me was like MTV movie awards and video awards were huge of my childhood because I grew up in a little town in Tennessee and I was seeing people like talk about

you know gender fluidity whether they were talking about it or they were just exhibiting it Yeah, yeah, yeah, doing it. They were edgy or like, when Gwen Stefani came out with, I'm just a girl. Yeah, yeah. And she had this ska song about how women are always sublimated and ignored and underestimated.

I was like, that's my anthem. Yes. But as you're sitting here, I was like, oh, my God, I know what culture was for me. I remember being, going with a group of friends to the movies and seeing First Wives Club. Oh, yes. And seeing Diane Keaton. Ben Miller and Goldie Hawn do that dance. At the end.

Well, yeah. And I was like, I think I was the only 11-year-old watching it like, that's revenge. You know, their unhappiness is their own revenge. And they express it through song and dance. And on a huge screen, and they're saying, you don't know me. Yeah. You know? I was like, this is it.

That's it. I used to read that from Blockbuster all the time. Like, I can't believe my mom just wasn't like, oh, my son's gay. Like, because it was like, I was like, I was renting it from Blockbuster all the time and watching it. And I don't remember like the rest of it from that time, but that scene. That's seen. By the way, your Blockbuster strategy was culture. Like on Friday nights.

1,000%. Were you like the basics that like ran for the new hits or were you like, hmm, I think I'm going to go rent blue velvet. It's by David Lange. What I would do. The Winona Writers Film Festival that I was always having. Oh, my God. There was, I'll never forget walking down. the aisle and I saw Batman forever

and Nicole Kidman had her Veronica Lake hair and I said I know something about myself as a result of the way I'm reacting to this picture and I took that movie and one day when she sits in this seat I will tell her that that Dr. Chase Meridian. Her hair

is seared into my consciousness. Yes. It's a core memory frame. Her like it's like a noirish scene It's Jessica. It's Jessica Rabbit. It was. Jessica Rabbit. Absolutely. She gathers up her like linens and she goes over to like, you know, the curtains blowing and then Batman comes and they're having this scene. And I'm like, that might have been a little bit of an awakening for me to be honest with you. That was my blockbuster pole.

It's like it's all coming back to me now. It's like women at a window with linens. You know what I mean? White linens and a blowing in the breeze. Yeah. That was my intro to Nicole. But your blockbuster strategy is your culture because it would be like, are you going to go to the wall with the new releases where it's like 10. 20 copies of one thing.

Yeah. Or are you going to slowly peruse the aisles? And I'm like nine years old. I'm going, what's the deer hunter? Like, not like, like, no idea. Nine were the criteria. The deer hunter. Well, and I was a Goldie Hawn completest.

So it was either overboard or wildcats when I had to go down. And then I could get a group, I could always get a group of kids to kind of watch what I wanted to watch. Yeah. I was considered like, the synvrient. You're producing them. I was like, you guys just don't know, follow me. Come on, come with me. So Goldstein was huge, huge.

Yeah, she was huge. And Winona Ryder was huge. And I felt like I knew her. Sure. Overboard. I almost had to wait. That movie is everything. It's seared into me.

It's everything. But the end of First Wives Club is like this light that's refracted into three different beams. Yes. Among those women. And you had, you could choose all three of them to model yourself after. Like, even for us, it's like, I want to be all of them. How many times? Your life wasn't a result of what the bad relationships that had happened to you.

It was what your friendships that were going to help you rise above and overcome. And how interesting that that came back around for you. I know. Who knew? That was my until we just talked about it. We do know. It's funny. It's like someone said to me one time, like you'll look back on your career and you'll see a

through line. And so it's funny. You talk about ambition being a through line. You're talking about female friendship being a through line. And to be where you're at now and know that those things have stayed consistent but also inspired people. That has to be really, really, really, really special. Yeah. And I feel lucky that I get to do it.

I get to continue to do it at a really high level with really fun people is really awesome. But I had a friend say to me the other day. She said, you know, do you feel like you were born with a finite amount of stories to tell and you've told a lot of them? Why would she say that? Whoa. She was an author and she's probably 61 or something. And she's like, I feel like I'm kind of rewrapping every story, but it's always the same theme. Huh. But that's okay. Yeah. Maybe we're all here for a purpose. Like you have to find, as Oprah would say, you have to find your purpose, you know, or what, like, do you know the themes of your storytelling lives? Not, it's coming into focus. Okay. slowly and for you to say that like when would you say that it came into focus for

not until it's 34 35 we're at that age basically so it's it's it's weird that like people pleasing starts to diminish and you start to go oh wait what I've been doing is kind of good is I'm kind kindling right like I've had one success and it's building on another and now it's time for me to slip into a leadership role and start being and you'll start to see I mean you probably already seeing this people are looking at you and going what do you want to do instead of going, can you please cast me or can you please put me in X-W? And so you have to spend that good,

look at me like life coaching your hair. I feel something. I feel like you guys are super creative and it's important that when you figure that out for yourself, your life opens up in a beautiful way. And you start to go on a different path where it's like, okay, I'm only going to follow those threads that serve my real purpose

and let people into my life that are helping that purpose. It's funny when that comes to. Because it's like, I feel like when I was younger growing up, like, and I had that moment where I was watching the Oscars. And I was, I think I was eight years old. We always talk about that same, that Titanic Oscars, we call it, 97, 98. That was the moment.

I looked in the screen and I was like, oh, I'm not supposed to be here. I'm supposed to be with them. And then you get in the industry. and you understand more about it and you work and you get the awards thing and you maybe even get to a point like you where you win the Oscar and yet it's not like you hit the jackpot

and won the game and now the rest of your life is roses. You still had struggles after that Oscar in terms of being taken seriously as a producer. Is that, that must have been something that you really felt like I've won an Oscar and yet still. You know what I mean?

And you hear that over and over. over and over again. That there's a curse. That there's like, what are they going to open a magic, you know, vault with the great scripts that they've been waiting to give you? No, it's not. It's actually, it's an opportunity to start creating your own. Right.

But I didn't understand that. And it took me four years to figure it out. Yeah. Because you're thinking after you win the Oscar for Walk the Line, incredible. It's going to be easier. Yeah. You think it's going to get easier. They're going to, all of a sudden, I'm going to be where, you know, so and so is.

And then all of a sudden you say, wait, who am I talking about it? So and so. because we're all here at women in Hollywood, even at this level, and it's not like there's like this abundance. Right. And it's, yeah, exactly. You nailed it.

And there is an Oscar curse, I think. It feels like there might be. I mean, I think there's empirical data at this point. For data people. Yeah, for data people. But the data people, not there are people who like, you know. Yeah, yeah. But it's interesting what, I guess,

it's interesting what ultimately does give you that satisfaction and purpose. Right. It's like, of course, winning the Oscar probably felt incredible. Like, I would love to win one, but you know that it's about what you can provide to people and what you can, like, be a part of that really affects change. Probably someone coming up to you that watched big little lies and said, I felt empowered to say something. Or I asked my friend if they were okay. You know, or I made sure that I just hang out with my female friends more as a result of watching that. That probably can give you something that an Oscar never could.

Oh, my God. Morning show, people talking about I was harassed in my workplace and I didn't have a voice. and you illuminated the show, and now everybody at work is behaving differently. Yeah. So a lot of the way our amazing friends who work in the corporate world have to walk through a lot of sublimation

and humiliation or just, it has radically changed in the past seven years. And with reporting structures and harassment is actually, like, that's not flirting. That's actually like, leave me the effluent. I'm not interested in. And even the jokes about, like, can you believe we can't do

this are now met with like, shut up. You know what I mean? Like I've been how many times like when you get cast on a new project you have like the, you know, the sexual harassment training and it's the people who are like, I can't believe this. When I was on 15 years ago, it's like, okay

dude. Like listen to yourself. I've had people roll their eyes during it and it was usually people who were harassing people. Exactly. It's like what? I can tell you I like your shirt. It's like, no, you can tell me you like my shirt and you know the difference. Yeah.

And so the fact that you're stunting on this right now is inappropriate. Totally. But then that's when you remember people just want attention. You know, but I think morning show is great too because we get to watch things shift, right? So we were there during Mean 2. We were talking about workplace harassment. But now we're here talking about the manoeverse and the rise of the male podcaster having massive influence. Perfect casting, by the way.

Wasn't he great? We love it. Boyd Holbrook is amazing. And he has, you know, this ease and charm about anybody's also kind of a good old boy. It works for that character too because, yeah, yeah. And so I think it's great that we can talk about journalism in this way that, you know, we're not attacking anybody, but we're just sort of illuminating how disturbing it is that

people are getting their news sources from people who are maybe not experts in the things are talking about. Well, that's one of the biggest problems I have with, I mean, in our podcast and community, when suddenly a lifestyle podcast or a comedy podcast host thinks that they can have a politician on their show and have a real conversation with them. I just don't think it's something that we should be doing. We're not qualified necessarily to do that.

Well, I think it's smart to say that, you know? During the election, we were pitched Democratic politicians to come on here. Presidential candidates. And we had to pass because I was like, I think then I would have to, and Bowen would have to follow up with some topics. And, like, I don't know if you want this person on our show. Right.

I don't know if it's best for us to do this. Also, good to trust your instincts because, again, what is your purpose here? Are you going to break political news? No, we should make people happy. Guys, you make people happy. Yeah, exactly. Like having your own award show. Exactly.

Which was digging. You watched it. You guys, come on. You're invited any year. We just sort of try to make each other laughing if we do it. We just follow that. And did you tell people like, guests that they had to come on to accept their awards?

Or did they just want to? So peek behind the curtain. It was our amazing, amazing, amazing team to help us. I'm so proud of your talk. You're like, no, I can't believe you watched it. I can't believe you watched it. I can't believe you watched it.

I can't believe it was incredible. It was so fun. Repeated some clips, so we're very funny. Thank you. You're invited any year. Well, here's the thing. It's like, I literally was thinking I was like, no, the first time we meet Reese has to be like this.

And then we're going to open the box. Yeah. But anyway, it's there. But no, we just, no, we like, look, it was a lot of work because it was just the two of us plus two writers, which is very understaffed in terms of award shows. It was hard. We wrote all the presenter copy, all the speeches, because everyone was like, we don't know what this is yet because it had been televised. The tone. So we had to write all the speeches.

We, like, we did everything. How long does that take you guys? A couple months. A couple months. And that really challenging part was that moment. And this is why, like, it's great to talk to you is because then you suddenly have to be like, oh, I'm snapping into being talent now. and now we have to learn Abra-Cadabra by Lady Gaga.

We have to learn a dance. Oh, my God. The dance. And that's when I finally was like, I have an anxiety problem. And I'm getting on propranilal. Okay. Because this abracadabra dance almost took me out.

And you know, it's true. I'm so proud of it. Can we talk about our relationship to anxiety in like, yes. Can we? Because I want to hear tools that you've learned and what I've learned. And it's real. You talk about this.

I'm a high anxiety person. Okay. And so I'm actually really happy to hear you say that because sometimes I think when someone talks about themselves as ambitious and I identify with that, it's sort of what people don't say is the amount of anxiety that sometimes can be driving that ambition or accompanying that ambition. So even just to hear you label it as being as your ambition being a symptom or how do you think of it? I mean, anxiety manifests itself, depression looks like anxiety sometimes too. so it can be really highly performance-based. Like you have to perform, you have to show up, which is a lot of my anxiety.

So I used to have panic attacks, bad panic attacks, like crying and I try meditation. It's hard for me to listen. Yeah. I also have like some ADD stuff, so I can't listen to stuff for very long. Honestly, this sounds so crazy, but I worked with a hypnotist who also did,

and no medicine. I took medicine. Sometimes I'd have to take at a van to calm. down. And then it would make me feel like a zombie. Right. And then I wasn't performing. And that's depressing.

That's depressing. And I wasn't performing at the level I wanted to. And I wasn't as funny. But by the way, P.S. If you need medicine, please take the medicine. Of course. And this is all very individual. Don't be a hero.

Yes. I'm not a doctor. Do I need to put that little thing? I'm not a doctor. But I started doing some work about with a hypnotist. And she actually works with this thing called neural linguistic program. so it's called NLP. And she helped me realize that I was going to get to the same result,

but I could get rid of all the anxiety. Yeah. When was that? I was 30, 34. 34 is like this magic. We're 35. And so this was, I think I've, well, how long? We've been now like engaging with this in a real way for like, what,

two years, a year each? Yeah, sure, sure. So always thinking like, what if I dull myself or you know what I mean? Lots of my our friends with mental health stuff are like, I don't want to lose the thing. And sometimes I drink too much. And then I was like, what am I doing this? I don't feel good. Or I take an out of hand and I was sleepy.

So that actually changed my whole life. And I want people to know anxiety is real. And when I see girls going through it or guys going through it on and they post videos and they're, I'm like, want to hug them. I just want to cry because it's very real and you're not alone and you can calm yourself down. Yeah. There's tools to calm yourself down. I mean, there is no, like, magic single solution.

I think it is just you finding, like, on an individualized level, like the matrix of things that that can help you through. I don't know. But the cornerstone of that work is understanding that you're going to perform at the same level, whether you're stressed about it or not stressed. about it. Yeah. So decide to take the stress out. Yeah. And she, she does a lot of exercises where you talk to yourself after you've completed the task. You've done this show. You're walking backstage. You guys are like going, you're reviewing and you're happy. And so you kind of just tell yourself ahead of time, we're going to get there. The way I process it is actually who I am and how I show up as a leader. Sure. Yeah. But the cognitive script that you have to undo, which is I'm sure the work that

you did is to go, but no, I mean, the way that I do it, even if I, like, the anxiety and the stress is just the way through. That's the journey. Like, like, at what point do you believe that to be true that, like, you don't need all the stuff in the middle that you will perform at the same level? When you can let the compliments in. Ah! You hear that? My big issue. But just sit down at the end of the night, maybe even, like, just circle certain texts or take a screenshot and, like, give yourself a moment and let it in. Yeah. Because you really are that talented. And you really, really deserve where you're at. But even if it's just quiet and private to you.

Totally. You know? One last thing before we move on that, I don't think so, honey. And I would have always wanted to ask you. Okay. Yeah. What I've always wanted to ask you? Yes, please.

And we kind of maybe brought up earlier with the book club. It's like people assumed that like you have the, like you have the first look at everything, right? That must be a frustrating thing. And that is probably two things. One's the underestimation that we've talked about, which is another through line with ambition. The other is people projecting things onto you, Reese Witherspoon, this accomplished, high functioning, beautiful, charming person, decorated person. But then at, but then at what point does that like work against things? Like, at a certain point, I go, wait, no, that's not

everything there is about me. Meaning that people assume things about me? I don't know what they assume about me. I don't know. It's like the book club, though, it's like, well, she must get first. It's like they just assume that you have these things at your fingertips when you have to work hard for them. Yeah. I think, no, I think like the joke is out about me that I work really like. No, I don't know if people assume like things that, what really gets my goat is people assuming things about my friends or women who are in the spotlight drives me up a wall that you think you understand someone's emotional experience when you have never met them. Yes. And you project things on them like, sometimes I'll get on my comments about people in my life who've had kids and people

in my life who haven't had kids. And there's a massive judgment there on either side, right? And it's just not cool. Yeah. We need to not do that to each other. And don't assume that people don't have any consciousness about children, even if they haven't given birth to them out of their body. Of course. You know, that really bugs me. Oh, that's, this whole conversation that's like suddenly, I mean, I thought I was coming in to do, I don't think so honey about something very light. Well, no, we'll move into the later. Remember when you said before we get into, I don't think so, honey, I have one more thing.

You fucked up because I have one more thing. Now, don't think that you're going to come out Los Coletorice, that's the podcast, and we're not going to at least bring up Big Little Lie Season 3. Okay. All right. So as you go, okay, I look down.

I just feel like we do need it. And I would like to ask in a real way about, like, how much brain space that takes up for you on the on the on the on the on the day to day and like what we what we're thinking about what we talking about i mean the idea of it is so exciting to me and then this is where my anxiety and perfectionism and ambition comes in yeah for sure and i don't want to do that to you excellent yeah of course it does so i'm not going to give it to you guys but you know it will be crisp can i say the the the and i like i you're just

one of my like number ones and like so i i will say big little lies season one episode six the scene with you and katherine newton where she's out on the hammock and you're going to over to her to confront her about the fact that she's going to like sell her virginity on the internet and when you tell her your secret about the fact that you had stepped out on adam scott that to me was just like that was like wreaths that scene that's the thing that's the thing that's was like there was so much fire and there was spirit and there was vulnerability and that there was all this like I just think that's character is like the character that you were like born to play after all of them and you've done you've brought so much to life in these different

ways but I feel like Madeline Martha McKenzie is like that's that's like the one and I just hope that in season three she tears it up thank you that's what I'm going to say I have that big little eyes, that's Madeline's show. Well, I'm going to pick your brain for cool set pieces too, because I think what's important to is, yes, you get all the wonderful inner

personal dynamics and you get all the friendships and all the great women, but we really live for our set pieces too. Oh, yeah. Oh, God, yeah. Whether it's the trivia night where we all dressed like Audrey Hepburn or we had a disco party for a iconic daughter. Yeah. So those are

really important to me too. And like it all has to cook into this beautiful, delicious meal. It has to be perfect. I mean, they do such an amazing job. You all do such an amazing job at picking those places too. I remember you guys went to go get coffee at a place

one time. This is when you have this scene with Meryl and she reads you for being short. Like, I just like this outdoor coffee spot where you ordered an Americano. I was like, oh, I want to go order an Americano at that place. I was influenced. I love everything about that show.

The fact that the show was so yummy that Merrill was like, yes, please. She was like, Tracy Flutier. She was like, man. You brought Merrill to TV. Oh, well done. Nicole did. She called Nicole, and she was like, I got to be in your show. And that was it. And that's how the legend is got together.

So I would imagine, Nicole and you said something one time. I think it was when you were giving a tribute to Nicole, where you were talking about how, like, Nicole calls and she's like, you've got to understand. Grace, you don't understand. There's an actor.

This director, she's amazing. We must get her. Then she does say stuff like, Rees, we must go in a girl's trip. I have to have a tequila. We have to. We must. Oh.

She really does. Yeah. She really does. She needs to have a tequila. And she is. She's like, Wyss, you and I, we're the property girlies. We love to buy proper.

She's totally right. Two of the great Vogue 73 questions, by the way. So yours and hers. We also like, if you have real estate questions, call us. Did you really do that backflip on that trampoline? Yes. That was really real? Because for a second, I was like, did they edit this?

In Vogue? Yes. On the Rove 373 questions? You did that backflip. Yeah, I was a gymnast when I was a little. I was a diver and a gymnast. You were a diver and a gymnast. You were flying to these guys.

I was taking big wrists. A very small stature, very big grade. What was your event in gymnastics? Were you an uneven bars queen? I was more floor. Beam. Beam is so scary. All the short queens love Beam.

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Exciting. Okay. Okay, this is Matt Rogers. I don't think so many, it's time starts now. I don't think so, honey. People telling me I can't say y'all. I can say y'all, even though I'm from Long Island, New York. Yeah.

You all is a catch-all. Because I'll tell you what, I'm not doing, folks. I'm not doing folks. I can say you all. You guys, like, of course, you guys is like, you know, it lives inside me. Right. But I can say y'all. You know who else says y'all?

Bowen-yang. Every now and then. Also, don't come from me for code switching, okay? 30 seconds. Like, a code switching is how I survived. It is the theme in my work thus far. I'm sure it will remain. It's true.

Code switching for professional survival and social survival. And y'all can relax. 15 seconds. Because I am not going to stop saying it. Probably because also Kelly Clarkson is one of my formative cultures at the age of 12. When she was like, y'all, y'all, y'all. Five seconds. did imprint on her. And Reese is here. And I've made it clear how much I love her. So y'all,

I don't think so, honey. And that's one minute. Y'all's big for me. That was so good. Well, thanks. But do you know what I'm saying? Yeah, y'all belongs to everyone. So even you. As a Nashville queen, you, you know, noted. Thank you. Nashville queen. It does. All right. So you're allowing it. Yes, of course. Open up the gates. Open up the gates. Now I just remember at Sweet Home Alabama when you got to the dog's grave. You know who loved that? Roger Ebert. He did.

Roger Ebert? I'm telling you, I'm like, I have the bibliography. Oh my God. How do you know so much? Because I love you. Oh, my God. You're amazing. You're making you know.

You're my favorite. The fact that you know that Roger Ebert loved that scene of me crying over my dad, dog. Sweet Home Alabama. In his review, I remember this from when I was reading, like, the reviews, like, way back when it was like Roger Ebert was like, I think he gave the movie like a two and a half star review or whatever. And then he was like, but the thing is,

Reese, when she gets down and she does that, you like, that speech to the dog and I was like reading it. And I was like, Mom, we have to go to the movies. We have to see Sweet Home Alabama. She's like, okay. No, get off my back. Oh, my God.

No, yes, of course. Y'all, no, we're studied. The Bruiserwood's this. I'm telling you is, that's a deep cut, obviously. Elwood, speaking of, I've got my own thing. Okay, here we go. And I, and I'm swinging big, and this might not go over well, but I'm going to do it.

And you are allowed to respond however you would like. He's a chemistry major from NYU before we get into it. Okay. This is Bowen Yang's. I don't think so honey, Honey, his time starts now.

I don't think so honey, L. Woods, pronouncing it ammonium thiaglachylate when the pronunciation is ammonium thiaglacolate. Thioglacolate. I fucked it up too. Oh no.

How dare you? Unlike L, I was a chemistry major and I couldn't even do it. So I guess I have no fucking leg to stand on, and Elle herself, with her working knowledge, the rules of beauty are hair care, simple and finite. Any Cosmo Girl would have known. Any Cosmo Girl would have known. 30 seconds. I think for that to be the punch that threw Chutney in jail. Love you, Linda. Love you, Linda. Oh, my God. We love Linda in this house. I think the impact would have been

even greater. I think it has thrown industrial chemists in disarray since the year 2000 because they have not known how to pronounce this name that it's thrown even me off. And it really was a bump in the road of my chemistry education, but I could never be mad at Elwoods. I could never be mad at Reese. It's one of the best movies of all time.

And that's one minute. I'm so sorry. I fucked it up. But see, ammonia thyglochlate lives in my head forever. Now it's how it's pronounced. At the risk of you changed chemistry. I mean, was it a topic?

Like, did you guys talk about it? We did not talk about it, but it's like you must understand that it did confuse the community. It's like, how do we pronounce this chemical, this molecule? I mean, you were influenced. I was influenced. I was influenced.

I was correct. 25 years later. But, you know, Al Woods is a fashion and merchandise major. Yeah, she's not. She's not. Oh, and I have a 4.0. Yeah. Wait, but I want you to know also.

Did you know they show at NYU? I went to dramatic writing school edition, NYU. They show the opening sequence of Legally Blonde to show how to establish tone. Of the letter being passed. Really? Yeah. It's like, there's like a whole scene and like just of every, of the girl riding in the bike and it gets, you know, Bruiser, what's this? And then you open it up. They

show that whole thing. And we did a whole day about how like, that is a perfect way to establish the tone of a movie and get the audience ready for what's to come. Oh, wow. Yeah. I think that's so great. Yeah. But yeah, I can't even watch the beginning of the movie because they replace somebody my hands with somebody else's hands and I can't look at it. And that's just my little inside scoop. I understand. I need to just, I mean, this isn't my things. I can't, I don't think so honey, but it was like hand doubles that don't look like the human. Like, I can't. No. I spend a lot

of time picking feet doubles. You've got audition the feet and hand doubles. I also can't. How are you? How are you with ADR? Whenever I see something that's even a little bit ADR. No, I mean, like, you're good at it. But when you, when I'm watching it and like I can tell something as ADR, I'm like, I'm out.

Yeah. Totally. Yeah, that's hard. I think, I think we're pretty good at it. I just did some. For Pomerail? I wasn't even supposed to say that I'm on it, but I did. Sorry guys. This comes out and a little, you know, people are excited. I know.

They're like, what we want to keep it to surprise. I love it. So good. And doing it was so, I'll show you a picture of my costume. Yeah, please. It was so, oh my God, they're going to be mad. But it was so, like, rich. I was like, wow, to be on a set that, like, has a budget.

I was like, this is crazy. Did you know the costume genre's same person as Big Little Eyes? Okay, I was gagging for the costume designer. She didn't say that, though. Yeah. Oh, my God. She's amazing. She's amazing.

She's helped, like Laura Dernan, she worked really close together for years and years. I'll tell you after. And, I mean, the looks. The looks for days. Works for years. That was one of those shows, too, where it's like they're going to do a measurement fitting. And I was like, okay, cool. I think I'm going in for a fitting.

Every part of your going. Everything. I was like, oh, my God. And then I was wearing a fully a speedo in the whole thing. So I was just like, okay, I don't know if we needed this. They're like, they're going to make this suit. Did they get your glove size? They got everything.

I just stepped them up again. I was like, I need those measurements for something. Do you know your glove size now? I don't think I do. Not off the top of the dome. Not off the dome. I'm a 15 neck. All right, anyway.

Reese, we got to get you out of here. We got to get out of here because you have to do. I don't think so on you. This is going to be iconic. Do I really? You have to. You'd be the first person ever to not do one. And that could be iconic.

No, she's going to do one. Don't put that thought in her head. She has something. She's got something. What? I mean, you're kidding me? All I have his topics. I'm just like, which ones do I share with you guys?

Oh, yeah. Well, on the mic. Ready? I'm picking what's right for today. Okay. Pick what's right for today. Well, because, like, what's on my mind is what I came in. There's like somebody that came up to me at a party and was like, said something terrible

my friend. And I'm like, now you're going to ask me like question. We're going to be friends. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. This is. No.

But then, like, what I also want to talk about is like, people who bring smelly food on like the trains and then like on the airplane. Do that. Oh, okay, okay. Or, and if you feel 30 seconds. Also, I have another thing, which is like standing in line for a cinnamon roll. Like, why are we doing this with our lives? This, I think this, I think cinnamon roll. Good cinnamon roll.

Okay. Yeah. Do this and know the form is yours to break. Okay. If 30 seconds in, you want to talk shit about your friend. Do that. That is up to you. Okay, here we go.

This is Reese Witherspoons. Get into it. Get into it. Her time starts now. Okay. I don't know why people do this. this, but like, why do you stand in line for, like, a cinnamon roll you saw on TikTok? Because they make it look better.

What? Like a special food or something? Like, you should touch grass. You should touch grass. You should read a book. Oh. And, like, you know, and I have friends who will spend all day searching TikTok as like a search tool for places to take a picture, places to eat special foods, and they will stand in

line for hours and hours and hours for sourdough bread. And I just can't. 30 seconds. Is it they want to stand in line secretly, but they don't want to stand in line secretly, but they I don't want to tell people. No one ever wanted to stand in line ever for anything ever and especially not a bake good. Like, no. Like, sometimes I get it about like those beautiful drinks that have the like the frosty meringue tops.

Like that's cute and it's going to look cute on your feed. Cinnamon rolls are not cute in pictures. I don't want to see it. And I really don't want to hear about it. Five seconds. Okay. I really don't like that. I also want to stand in line for lip gloss.

Oh. And that's one minute. Yeah, that does feel like something. thing that is not in my culture because it's never had to be, but lip gloss, y'all have to be standing in line. Get a grip. What's worth standing in line for? Ooh. Okay, a really amazing once in a lifetime live performance. Yeah. You know, like somebody you are really moved by. What's your favorite concert you've ever seen? Well, the thing that's coming to mine is, um, oh my God. Come on. So many things. Well, Gwen Stefani when I was 12. Yeah. Or, no, I was.

I wasn't. I was like 20 when she can't. What am I talking about? I saw in Minnesota. I was making a movie with Paul Rudd. It was called Overnight Delivery is a terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible terrible movie. We had the best time. Sarah Silverman was one line in the whole movie. She was hysterically funny. That's what we made friends. And it was just a time. And we were in Minnesota and it was the beginning of ska and girl punk and just all the rising talent. And it was really and I went and saw Gwen Stefani in a tiny, tiny theater. Love it. And it was cool.

And she was just a girl. But she really wasn't. She wasn't just a girl. She did Coachella last year and it felt like, and it was no doubt. So it did feel like we were back. It was just, it was. Good time. The way she was like, I'm just a girl.

Yeah. In the world. I mean, it was every feeling ever had. Yeah. She was a total beast. That is a total beast. She contained multitudes. Yeah.

Truly like all of us. Yeah, of course. And a strong red lip. Oh, always. And the, and that, and the pony. And I just can't. It was just all. And also what blew my mind was realizing she was having to bleach her hair all the time.

And she still has it. Yeah, that's weird. That's a mystery. I had a bleach blonde moment all of last year. And the hair was falling out. The hair falls out. She's burnt. I don't know how she's doing it.

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We finally did this. I know. And like, trust me, when he... And I had to chase you down. It's just for the record. I chased you guys out. Listen. No, you did not.

It was... It was not... You did not need to convince us. It was the easiest yes. I FaceTime this one. The second you part of ways for me. We just never think someone as cool and talented and busy as you is going to come spend time with us. And so we are so happy.

that you did because we have to tell you morning show is like it's one of those things where it's one of the only things I get like super excited I wake up I'm like oh there's a new one and now that we have all them to binge sorry y'all y'all don't um but um but we'll still be keeping updated and it's just as much fun as it is every year and uh if I only came on this podcast for one reason it was to watch you guys connect morning show the new iPhone Taylor Swift's album and the color of orange. Well, that all happened off mic, but we did get it, right? Okay, we got all of it.

And then you're hitting it with the iconic, whoever said orange is the new pink. We seriously disturbed. I mean, I saw Cameron Diaz where I made a truly heinous Angora sweater. I talked to her out of buying the most truly heinous and goras sweater. Okay, well, maybe you have to come back and we have to talk more about all these january. out more. This is Reese Spoon. Morning Show,

season four is out now. We love you. Thank you. We end every episode with the song. That's it going to be. Should we do? A little after 12. Make breakfast for myself.

I need the word for someone else. If you want to hear the rest of that, do yourself a favor and be like a film student and watch the first sequence and then the whole film of Legally Blonde. Goodbye. This was amazing. That was awesome. Thank you so much.

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